I have to say I've never seen a shaper used like that before ( and I've been using them for about 50 yrs) but why not? Modern machine shops don't have them now but I still use my 18" Butler regularly. Keep at it. Critics are just jealous they don't have one.
Those who don't have shapers bad mouth them . Those who have them love them. That has got to be the slowest feed rate that thing can adjust to. Blacksmith shaper , gotta love TH-cam . The shaper is not modified as far as I can see it is an attachment and it can still machine parts .Certainly not straining the machine.
Yeah, I belted this to run slowly so there'd be time to insert a hot bar. It makes it pretty slow for cutting, but then again, at that speed I can take pretty deep cuts. Originally, it probably had two countershafts overhead, with cone pulleys on each shaft to change the speed of the lower shaft which then drove the shaper at different speeds. I'd like to do that some time if I ever find the appropriate cones, but for now, it's set up to be, as you call it, a blacksmith's shaper. Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it.
+Knolltop Farms Oh, she's very well oiled. In fact, I cover it up with three layers of sheets when I'm not using it so it stays grit free. The belts squeak when it changes direction, because one belt runs one way, and the other belt runs the other way; so there is a moment when both belts are on the drive pulley at the same time, so they squeak. The rattle you hear is a bearing on the north side of the shop. I knew it was loose when I put it in. I really do need to take it down and pour new babbitt one of these days. By the way, for anyone who cares, this shaper machined (cutting) 180 parts for us in the last week, each one 14" long. Anyone who thinks shapers are obsolete doesn't know their potential to be set up and run without attention while you do other things. This makes them very efficient. People with CNC machines say that about their shops, but the old shapers can do it too! Joel
I am conflicted, on one hand I could be a douche and talk about the pretty girl and the big machine, on the other hand I'm both pleased and impressed with the novel application of that nice metal shaper, kudos
Get some proper shades! The radiation from those red hot parts and open furnace will fry the back of your eyeballs ... it might take all day, but that will burn you just as badly (if not worse because you aren't so aware of it happening) as electric arc welding.. using a gas torch will do the same thing too. The pain from burnt eyes is exquisite, and there's nothing for it but to bandage your eyes and wait..and wait .. and wait.
Waste of energy .. definatly just an obvious cold forming operation . Shaper or not .. or if you like playing with fire just heat up the middle where its bent,
how do You know this? Have You seen the print? I am a tool and diemaker. I am reasonably sure I could form almost anything similar in a punch press. You might need an expensive die. they may have whipped this up i a few hours. I would say well done. There are many ways to attack a project with the toolls You have. This is clever. I have a small Logan shaper and light bulbs started going off in my head after seeing this with new possibilities.
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WOW, old shop! Cool! Your running line drives! I would love to come see your setup, very very cool. Not many like yours left anymore.
Very innovative. I love it. That's just opened up a whole new way of thinking on how to use a shaper. Thank you for sharing.
This is brilliant. Great work!
I have to say I've never seen a shaper used like that before ( and I've been using them for about 50 yrs) but why not? Modern machine shops don't have them now but I still use my 18" Butler regularly. Keep at it. Critics are just jealous they don't have one.
Clever use of the shaper.
That's a clever use of a shaper.
I thought the same and posted that before I saw your comment.
And its a line shaft shop. I think I'm in love lol
That's thinking outside the square. Love the old school overhead lay shafts and flat belts.
wonderful application. great to see line shaft machines in use.
What a cool shop! all they need is a boiler. :-)
Nice shop and very clever setup! I think by the 5th or 6th piece my wife would be giving me a hard time about standing around taking pictures...
Now that's flipping genius
could you upload a video of the shop and all the belt driven system? looks great!
Those who don't have shapers bad mouth them . Those who have them love them. That has got to be the slowest feed rate that thing can adjust to. Blacksmith shaper , gotta love TH-cam . The shaper is not modified as far as I can see it is an attachment and it can still machine parts .Certainly not straining the machine.
Yeah, I belted this to run slowly so there'd be time to insert a hot bar. It makes it pretty slow for cutting, but then again, at that speed I can take pretty deep cuts. Originally, it probably had two countershafts overhead, with cone pulleys on each shaft to change the speed of the lower shaft which then drove the shaper at different speeds. I'd like to do that some time if I ever find the appropriate cones, but for now, it's set up to be, as you call it, a blacksmith's shaper. Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it.
Thanks for posting the video !
How does the furnace heat up the metal in one second?
She heated two to start and is hooks itching back and forth is my guess.
Looks like the old shaper could use a bit of oil...or is that the belts squeaking?
+Knolltop Farms Oh, she's very well oiled. In fact, I cover it up with three layers of sheets when I'm not using it so it stays grit free. The belts squeak when it changes direction, because one belt runs one way, and the other belt runs the other way; so there is a moment when both belts are on the drive pulley at the same time, so they squeak. The rattle you hear is a bearing on the north side of the shop. I knew it was loose when I put it in. I really do need to take it down and pour new babbitt one of these days.
By the way, for anyone who cares, this shaper machined (cutting) 180 parts for us in the last week, each one 14" long. Anyone who thinks shapers are obsolete doesn't know their potential to be set up and run without attention while you do other things. This makes them very efficient. People with CNC machines say that about their shops, but the old shapers can do it too!
Joel
I am conflicted, on one hand I could be a douche and talk about the pretty girl and the big machine, on the other hand I'm both pleased and impressed with the novel application of that nice metal shaper, kudos
it is a good idea to use a machine tool as a ironworker but the heat induced will render useless as a shaper because warped parts
hope she dont go blind from looking at those white hot bars all day
Get some proper shades! The radiation from those red hot parts and open furnace will fry the back of your eyeballs ... it might take all day, but that will burn you just as badly (if not worse because you aren't so aware of it happening) as electric arc welding.. using a gas torch will do the same thing too.
The pain from burnt eyes is exquisite, and there's nothing for it but to bandage your eyes and wait..and wait .. and wait.
Now that's a good wife.
Waste of energy .. definatly just an obvious cold forming operation . Shaper or not .. or if you like playing with fire just heat up the middle where its bent,
how do You know this? Have You seen the print? I am a tool and diemaker. I am reasonably sure I could form almost anything similar in a punch press. You might need an expensive die. they may have whipped this up i a few hours.
I would say well done. There are many ways to attack a project with the toolls You have. This is clever. I have a small Logan shaper and light bulbs started going off in my head after seeing this with new possibilities.
I am heading over to Your channel for videos on handling projects like this more efficiently.