PvZH's actual gameplay is one of the most genuinely interesting card games I've played, having an asymmetrical multiplayer card game is an idea I've never seen before and in actual combat it does that super great. It's a shame how dog the progression is because I could've seen this game getting real big if it wasn't so hostile to new players.
Obscure pvz heroes trivia (atleast i think its a little obscure): Red stinger was added for the games for RED event on IOS, along with an exclusive mission where you play as rose with red stinger in your deck (which is out of class)
The main reason why I remember that this game exists is thanks to Fry Em Up. The game is quite good on paper, but it just needed a little antra love to make it stand with the other PvZ greats.
At max P2W, it's probably the best PvZ game out there just because you have the chaos, strategy, and garbage moments of a "hard mode" PvZ campaign at a more turn based speed
hence why fanmade set 5's exist. I agree that this is a game that has its issues, but if it received just a little more love and wasn't left to the PopCap janitor, it'd be cookin for sure
Crazy how the last reference to the original Nightcap outside his debut game is a costume for Fume Shroom in PvZ2 and even then the shooter games Nightcap has been added to the game
To tell you how complex this game is, he didn’t even go into detail about how the combat cycles from left to right, meaning cards in the left-most lane can actually be stronger due to dealing damage first and potentially winning a game before all the rest of the opponent’s cards can attack. Yeah. Brugh. Too much.
I was worried that your bias would influence your decisions on whether the game was good or not (something that happens a little too often IMO) & I appreciate that you can admit that you don't like the game, but that doesn't make it bad. Overall this was a pretty fair & comprehensive review, sp, great job!
what captivates me to this game so much is how I keep thinking I've found the best deck in the game, and yet it always has some unexpected weakness. and yet, over time, I do feel like I'm making progress, and becoming a better player. the dream is that some day I'll enter a tournament and get 1st
To me heroes is my second favorite in the franchies but to me falls flat as a pancake that they didnt make a physical game for it, it could have been great
Finally! Someone who doesn’t look at a game that doesn’t appeal to them and go “This game does not target me specifically, therefore it’s bad” Thank you.
I enjoy this game ALOT, mainly how the artstyle is great and that the entire premise of plants and zombies as heroes is in itself awesome, but what i hate is the absolute abysmal card balancing, there are moments where i don't even know how i lost only that they had a card that transforms other card on the field into a gargantuar 😭
Also, as a PvZ Heroes fan, this game is not a pay2win grindfest. You just have to.. actually be good at card games to have fun in the early game. Complete the quests, and you can easily get enough gems to buy packs to get cards. You can easily get legendary cards.
Pvz heroes isn't too f2p friendlt but with enough time you can make a pretty good deck and without grinding to death You don't have to have legendaries up the wazzoo there's plenty of great cards The rank games are the best part just because it exists ig and you can play against real people which is great
Hey @SylviaYSI, the reason that your opponent at about 13:33 had such cards at that time was because 1: Season resets also reset your arena level, while also giving you many packs. And 2: Event cards which you can get 1-2 of each week in the event mode (Frankentaur and Garg throwing imp are both event cards)
The “sweep” in 9:54 was done with just rare and events cards which even for a new f2p player is VERY easy to obtain this game although does have a lot of microtransactions have a really forgiving rank system and as long as you know what your doing climbing to max rank is very easy with just rare and event cards it’s more of a pay to enjoy the more fun cards and decks I’m a completely f2p player and am able to climb perfectly fine tho the biggest issue with the game is the fact that it stopped being updated like 4-5 yrs ago
True. Also FTP, have had multiple files, usually sit round rank 30(for now). The experience is great, and I have some very fun decks that I like to play. The only downside is the lack of love from Popcap, I agree.
You can also edit files, which after a year of playing, I gave in and did (thanks pvzh hacking subreddit). But that's not an excuse for popcap/ea making the game p2w (not really p2w though, there are good budget decks but it takes forever to craft maxed out decks)
5:56 You can actually get superpowers by playing specific cards that conjure them. For zombies, You can play the _Thinking Cap_ card, which is a event-type rarity trick card that costs 4 brains to play. The card allows you to conjure 2 random superpower cards. The card is pretty good because it has a somewhat ok price that can fit into many decks, but decks that contain Zombology Teacher can really help the Thinking Cap card pop off. (The reason that the Thinking Cap card "Pops Off" is because Zombology teacher is a 1-cost card that decreases all zombie trick card costs by 1. This makes in so that the Thinking Cap card costs 1 less, but that isn't all. Superpowers are considered zombie tricks, and while the zombie teacher is on the field, you can play the superpowers for completely free.) For plants, you can conjure superpowers by playing the _Bird of Paradise_ card. The Bird of Paradise card is a Legendary-Rarity plant card that costs 5 sun to play. The card's ability is that at the start of your turn, conjure a random superpower card. You may think that the card is very powerful, but since that the card costs 5 sun to play, it will be relatively east to get rid of at that point in the game (The Bird of Paradise's stats are 4 damage 5 health.) The reason that this card is rarely used isn't just because it has really bad stats for its price, but because the card is just incredibly hard to obtain. The reason this card is so hard to obtain is because its class is smarty, and it is just kind of hard to get smarty cards in general, let alone a legendary one. The _Eureka_ card (The Eureka card is Professor Brianstorm's premium legendary zombie signature superpower trick card. Its ability is to conjure 3 random cards. The cards conjured can be any card. And obviously, the Eureka card costs 1 because it is a superpower card) may have a possibility to be able to conjure superpowers, but I have never seen it happen before, so I don't know if you can conjure other superpower cards with it.
Unlock as much RNG based cards, like molekale or leap Build a deck around/out of those cards and win by complete luck You either win against any deck or you don't. No skill or absurd grind needed
@AzureWolf168 Or, you know, just make him and BC available like all the other heroes by getting packs, but just stuff them in galactic gardens packs instead?
most RNG cards except for like Captain Cucumber aren't top tier though (even molekale is just good/great). Most top meta decks seem to just have really strong cards
I really wish I could like Héroes, as there is way so many stuff that has so much potential: the concept of the heroes as well as their designas well as the card game idea (which was something new to the franchise), could make a great game, but the insane grind as well as the lack of content outside of the story mode unallowed me to have much fun. Heck, I even tried the mp, but I never made it more than rank 27 (skill issue? Maybe. But still...) The main and only reason I played for around 350hr was simply because of the mods. Guys, seriously, DO NOT SLEEP ON THE MODS. Anyway, I feel like this is the game with the most wasted potential in the franchise, just next to Bfn. You can clearly see that they didn't put much passion in many areas, and is really sad how it just stopped getting updates with no warning or anything. Anyway, good video.
I disagree though it does not fully pay to win like Brawl Stars because you can copy and edit a “budget deck” on TH-cam, Reddit, and PvZ Heroes Discord. A good budget deck is viable even to fairly match a high-rarity deck. It depends on the meta and also there is an unlimited gems and ads glitch or setting which takes a long to get more gems to watch ads especially if you do something like watch a movie while you can get gems by pressing ads for gems.
8:50 and if you complete all 200 and have you're EA account connected, you can get cool accessories for gw2, but only the first 2 of them since for whatever reason you cant get the rest anymore, so basically it's a waste of time
I could be mistaken, but I believe you can get those cosmetics by just having the game installed, and you don’t need to go through all the extra trouble
imagine if PVZ Heroes got remake and make playable and free to play for everyone new expansions new heroes new packs improving the missions (with a big reward)
i will definitely say the game gets WAAAY more fun once you start unlocking legendary cards like, well, most of them theyre so broken, and the combos you can do and the decks you can make are incredibly varied. a personal favorite of mine is leap decks, in which you use transformation stations and evolutionary leaps to make smaller zombies into huge zombies overtime, eventually reaching zombot 9000 if you play your cards right.
I think Heroes has the °best gameplay in the franchise: relatively even turn based pvp AND tons of original ideas for both sides AND playstyle variety AND fun gimmicks? Everyone else should be taking notes from this game, it does a lot right at its peak! °Assuming lategame players with maximum pay-to-win/edited save files with access to 4 of each card and every Hero.
@@amazingboi9388 Actually, I think Zombies have it worse: Your power is always split between Units and Tricks, so imagine trying to buff smth and then the Plants Turn happens to your buff targets...
Probably just a mandela effect thingy but I think originaly each campaign originaly had 100 levels, 50 cause 5 levels per the 10 heroes and another 50 which are basically just a 2nd campaign (which also have no comic cutscenes), it's possible thoug that I may just be missremembering as I never got far beyond the 1st set of heroes. Also in an update 2 heroes were added, both space themed; one carrot one (for plants) and another imp (for zombies); but as far as I can tell there's no way to unlock them right now.
There are events for them every like 6-7 months. They can only be obtained from packs during those events, I got both from the last one(approximately a year ago).
As a long players of this game, I agree with this completely. Winning games feel like they're more based off luck bc u can ethier get a fair matchup or a completely broken LvL 40 matchup. And unless you have really good cards, you're gonna be struggling as the only way to get them is packs that require consistant everyday constant grinding. The craft system exist but the way u get sparks is obsecure and even then cards are rather expensive.
Have you ever considered making a series where you explain all the TF2 classes? TF2 is still really popular to this day and it is free on Steam, I think.
They should’ve put a difficulty setting for AI battles. Easy: The AI will most of the time make mistakes and bad plays, giving you a sure victory every match. Normal: The AI will play on an average skill level and give you both a challenge but a fun experience. Hard: The AI will be a tougher challenge and will play cards strategically and make victory difficult to achieve. Master: THE RNG WILL FAVOR THE AI, YOU WILL NEVER WIN!!! (Basically the only difficulty EA/Popcap decided to start and leave it on.)
I still actively play heroes fairly often and I adore its gameplay so much I just wish it didn’t get abandoned so quickly I’ve been playing since the beta even
I played the game when it first got released. I enjoyed the game a lot but maybe because I was a bit younger. I eventually quit the game but picked it up for a second time a few years later and I definitely noticed how the game was a bit grindier. I played Hearthstone and Legends of Runeterra a bit but the turn mechanics in PvZH was the most interesting to me. It was always fun trying to build a deck around several niche cards like the Podfather (I vaguely remember him getting more stats the more Peashooter type plants were on the board).
Two words “Budget Decks” Budget Decks for Beginners Budget Decks: Plants Best: Mopzilla (Chompzilla) Zombies: Best: Budget Burn or Player Removal (Electric Boogaloo)
this game is only good when you grind long enough or you hack gems/sparks/cards in, hacking those in are completely fine (in competitive) as long as you don't do stuff like, 99 brains/sun or something like X40 or more than 4 of a card, when you get everything (or enough to make a deck) this game actually goes pretty hard except for the block meter and most of the rng stuff, molekale, seedling, and conjure are a whole different story though cause they're actually fun to use
Pvz Heroes is genuinely one of my fav games, but it only gets fun if you hack in the cards…but god damn is it worth it. I love card battlers, (I play yu-gi-oh and LoR) so when I found out about a pvz card game I was hesitant. And when I played it, it was so fucking hard to progress. But when I hacked in the cards, it opened up so many strategies, and props to FryEmUp, prob my most watched youtuber, single-handedly carrying the game.
Gotta be real, i like Heroes (i play it without transactions), just it has that problem that is well... you know. And i have some ideas of how to repair it: 1. Obtaining both cards and heroes via campaign (Seriously, WHY?) 2. I guess... remove some of the ingame transactions? There are just too much of those. And... that's it. That is all of the ideas
I've played the game since launch, gotta be one of my favorite games. Due to grinding ranked season rewards for many years, I actually have almost all the cards (just missing a few legendaries), and the game is very fun once you have enough cards to start theory-crafting your own decks. However, since the game is so pay-to-win, I do not recommend this game to others, despite how much I love it. It's only fun because I have the freedom to make whatever deck I want with all the cards, without that, all you can make is just typical pile-of-garbage decks, or copy some existing budget deck that you didn't build yourself. You can't be creative & see results, which is such a shame. My advice to any new players who wanna play this: Use hacked decks, but only run hacked decks that are actually legitimate. That way you get to play around with all the cards without handing over your money to EA, and without ruining the fun for others
Firs time player. After playing plenty of tcgs and mobile cqrd games, i can say that this game really took me by surprise. At first, i was just gonna download the OG PvZ game. But then this game caught my eye. A card game with the PvZ theme? Sign me up. Its a downer that you dont gwt anything for completing all the story missions. The turn wheel is intriguing with the shield charge mechanic is genius. Taken too many damage? No problem, here, have a power up. So good. I've only unlocked the sunflower girl, might switch back to the starter hero. Can't wait to see how the zombos play. They really mjssed the opportunity of making this game physical. That would've done pretty good
you should see the hackers in this game. I'd say i either lose in this game because of how paid to win it is, or because the guy was hacking and prevents himself from taking any damage for prevents you from getting the kill shot by doing that same thing. Honestly, this game make me tear my hair out!
Yeah the P2W grindfest totally killed my interest in the game, but I ended up enjoying the game a lot more after I installed some cheats that gave me every card.
wasted potential is the best way to describe this game. with how big the moding scene is in the pvz community i hope this game one day will get a mod too
I enjoy the game but thats more because I goof around with hacked decks on occasion, along with having every card in the game at my disposal, which if thats what I have to do to enjoy the game? That's not exactly great
I’ve found once you push through the game enough that you really start understanding it, and get enough decent cards you can actually good deck and push ultimate league, the game can become much more fun an interesting. But yeah the grind fest is insane in this game, way to much of a barrier of entry.
I still dont understand how popcap went from making bangers like these to the slop we ended up with today. The game doesnt appeal to everyone, but to those that want to try it, im not even joking, i genuenly believe this is one of the best card games ever, the luck aspect being not too much nor too little and if youre new just make an agressive deck of uncommon/rare cards on solar flare and youre good to go. You actually get a ton of gems if you rank up and enter new leagues
@AzureWolf168 honestly, pvz heroes kinda fell off in terms of R34 since pvz R34 died off as soon as 2021 hit or even earlier since I don't remember, would be interesting if someone broadly covered that side of the pvz fandom though
Personally I have love and hate relationship with hero’s I love how the game looks and feels the music is good not ground breaking by any means the game is simply is a lot of fun to play in my expect how much it sucks to be unlucky at times which brings me to what I hate I don’t even need to mention the micro transactions so I will talk about the other stuff which is English at times because man can you just from rng sometimes and don’t get me wrong it’s how the game is played and I like because how unpredictable because when rng works in your favor it’s one of the best feelings ever but when it doesn’t it’s so unsatisfying to lose due to something that couldn’t be ready but again I’m kinda happy because it makes most matches unpredictable and that’s definitely not a bad thing but idk I just love hero’s a ton
This is probably tied with modded pvz 2 for my favorite pvz game. Hacking in all the cards is very easy and once you have them all online becomes really really interesting and actually fair on later levels. Its one of those games that is kinda bullshit but in a really fun way. Sad to see that you don't really like this game but I totally understand it. The only thing I don't really agree with is the classes thing and one being a lot better than the other. The synergies that the classes have with eachother is a lot more important and every class and hero has their uses. Otherwise i can completely agree with everything said. Good video!
One problem I have with the game is how awful it is at teaching players how to effectively make decks and strategies. Unless you go on the internet for help, you’re not going to even be half decent at the game Also popcap basically gave up on adding story into the missions because eventually, the missions don’t come with a comic panels anymore
this game is good i think i did a cool desk once and i was scared to lose with it because it might curse it forever so i stopped playing and made a long nihilistic pro-suicide "philological" rant about how we are all doomed to fail
pvz heroes is honestly quite good for what most people would believe it to be! it's perfect for when you have time to kill or are just in the mood to do a round, as it is a very fun game to play at times. it has super interesting interesting mechanics for a card game, and if you have some of the better cards in the game, it is truly one of the better PvZ games in the whole franchise. however, it is VERY pay to win, as legendaries are just SO much better than every other card rarity and cost the most sparks out of any to craft. it is nowhere near impossible to win if you play against a p2w player, but it is a lot harder in general. at least it has better f2p than clash royale tho XD
As for my actual opinion on the game, I legit tricked myself into thinking I liked it because I love PVZ but absolutely despise Hearthstone with the deepest burning passion of any current day Overwatch follower. The game is a gigantic grind fest which is annoying. The game is full of the most toxic cards I’ve ever seen in any card game which is next level annoying. The game was completely abandoned so everyone knows full well nothing will ever be changes and it is stuck in this state forever which is impossibly annoying. The game doesn’t reward you for commitment which is stupid. EVEN AFTER ALL THAT. This game is still *OBJECTIVELY BETTER* than actual hearthstone. Fight me on that Hearthstone is one of the worst games I’ve ever played, legitimately it is actively a day ruiner I would have more fun spending 5 hours doing nothing in the world’s darkest, quietest room than 5 hours of hearthstone. Yes I can tell I’m angry, have you never been mad at anything ever?
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PvZH's actual gameplay is one of the most genuinely interesting card games I've played, having an asymmetrical multiplayer card game is an idea I've never seen before and in actual combat it does that super great. It's a shame how dog the progression is because I could've seen this game getting real big if it wasn't so hostile to new players.
And had new cards
Note: I'm pretty sure you used to get cards for playing the adventure and there's no exclusive cards as the crafting system... exists!
too bad i cant craft any cards because my phone wasnt built for it
i have so many of the energy things too
@@OnthisgoodgreenearthWait what??? How???
@@Onthisgoodgreenearth just change ur phone settings
@@Onthisgoodgreenearth What you do is change the width of your phone until it lets you craft.
You can do that in developer mode
Obscure pvz heroes trivia (atleast i think its a little obscure): Red stinger was added for the games for RED event on IOS, along with an exclusive mission where you play as rose with red stinger in your deck (which is out of class)
Yep. I remember that. I have a project red iPhone that always reminds me of that events.
Oooh yeah. That was really exciting when it was happening. Too bad nobody uses Red Stinger though lol
The main reason why I remember that this game exists is thanks to Fry Em Up. The game is quite good on paper, but it just needed a little antra love to make it stand with the other PvZ greats.
Agreed
At max P2W, it's probably the best PvZ game out there just because you have the chaos, strategy, and garbage moments of a "hard mode" PvZ campaign at a more turn based speed
@@ED-gw9rg Yeah, if you hack in all the cards, you’ll find yourself having a lot of fun now that you can freely experiment.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast True
hence why fanmade set 5's exist. I agree that this is a game that has its issues, but if it received just a little more love and wasn't left to the PopCap janitor, it'd be cookin for sure
Terrible idea for a game 🤓
Truly horrible. Yet I'm sure there's probably some guy streaming it on Twitch anyway. People will really play anything on there smh.
Yeah this game sucks so much. Imagine if there's some +30 years old guy somewhere out there streaming it every day on Twitch. Just imagine.
Fr@@NoUserU
Crazy how the last reference to the original Nightcap outside his debut game is a costume for Fume Shroom in PvZ2 and even then the shooter games Nightcap has been added to the game
To tell you how complex this game is, he didn’t even go into detail about how the combat cycles from left to right, meaning cards in the left-most lane can actually be stronger due to dealing damage first and potentially winning a game before all the rest of the opponent’s cards can attack. Yeah. Brugh. Too much.
I was worried that your bias would influence your decisions on whether the game was good or not (something that happens a little too often IMO) & I appreciate that you can admit that you don't like the game, but that doesn't make it bad. Overall this was a pretty fair & comprehensive review, sp, great job!
what captivates me to this game so much is how I keep thinking I've found the best deck in the game, and yet it always has some unexpected weakness. and yet, over time, I do feel like I'm making progress, and becoming a better player. the dream is that some day I'll enter a tournament and get 1st
11:21 same reason why unsupported shooter games are being played. Player with player interaction is unpredictable so you always get something new
To me heroes is my second favorite in the franchies but to me falls flat as a pancake that they didnt make a physical game for it, it could have been great
You have summoned the FryEmUp community.
I accept the consequences
I always like randomly playing pvz heroes when I’m bored💀
Finally! Someone who doesn’t look at a game that doesn’t appeal to them and go “This game does not target me specifically, therefore it’s bad”
Thank you.
I have seen you on discord lol.
A weird thing I found out is that in the first mission set against chompzilla she has a wild berry in her deck which is (unless conjured) impossible.
this happens a lot in the campaign. The bots are notorious for cheating
Yeah and solar flare had a cattail in one of them
I'm not really big fan of pvz heroes (and never played it)But I'M OBSESSED with Professer Brainstorm.I really like his design
If there’s one thing I do love about the game, yeah it’s gotta be the character design. Including Brainstorm, there’s some super cool designs here!
Plants vs. Zombies Heroes is a really amazing game. Flawed in too many aspects but still amazing
I enjoy this game ALOT, mainly how the artstyle is great and that the entire premise of plants and zombies as heroes is in itself awesome, but what i hate is the absolute abysmal card balancing, there are moments where i don't even know how i lost only that they had a card that transforms other card on the field into a gargantuar 😭
Also, as a PvZ Heroes fan, this game is not a pay2win grindfest. You just have to.. actually be good at card games to have fun in the early game. Complete the quests, and you can easily get enough gems to buy packs to get cards. You can easily get legendary cards.
no wonder solar flare has kabloom she makes my pants explode
so real
Pvz heroes isn't too f2p friendlt but with enough time you can make a pretty good deck and without grinding to death
You don't have to have legendaries up the wazzoo there's plenty of great cards
The rank games are the best part just because it exists ig and you can play against real people which is great
Hey @SylviaYSI, the reason that your opponent at about 13:33 had such cards at that time was because 1: Season resets also reset your arena level, while also giving you many packs. And 2: Event cards which you can get 1-2 of each week in the event mode (Frankentaur and Garg throwing imp are both event cards)
It was fun 1v1ing you. GG
I lost… so much 😭
The “sweep” in 9:54 was done with just rare and events cards which even for a new f2p player is VERY easy to obtain this game although does have a lot of microtransactions have a really forgiving rank system and as long as you know what your doing climbing to max rank is very easy with just rare and event cards it’s more of a pay to enjoy the more fun cards and decks I’m a completely f2p player and am able to climb perfectly fine tho the biggest issue with the game is the fact that it stopped being updated like 4-5 yrs ago
True. Also FTP, have had multiple files, usually sit round rank 30(for now). The experience is great, and I have some very fun decks that I like to play. The only downside is the lack of love from Popcap, I agree.
You can also edit files, which after a year of playing, I gave in and did (thanks pvzh hacking subreddit). But that's not an excuse for popcap/ea making the game p2w (not really p2w though, there are good budget decks but it takes forever to craft maxed out decks)
5:56 You can actually get superpowers by playing specific cards that conjure them. For zombies, You can play the _Thinking Cap_ card, which is a event-type rarity trick card that costs 4 brains to play. The card allows you to conjure 2 random superpower cards. The card is pretty good because it has a somewhat ok price that can fit into many decks, but decks that contain Zombology Teacher can really help the Thinking Cap card pop off. (The reason that the Thinking Cap card "Pops Off" is because Zombology teacher is a 1-cost card that decreases all zombie trick card costs by 1. This makes in so that the Thinking Cap card costs 1 less, but that isn't all. Superpowers are considered zombie tricks, and while the zombie teacher is on the field, you can play the superpowers for completely free.)
For plants, you can conjure superpowers by playing the _Bird of Paradise_ card. The Bird of Paradise card is a Legendary-Rarity plant card that costs 5 sun to play. The card's ability is that at the start of your turn, conjure a random superpower card. You may think that the card is very powerful, but since that the card costs 5 sun to play, it will be relatively east to get rid of at that point in the game (The Bird of Paradise's stats are 4 damage 5 health.) The reason that this card is rarely used isn't just because it has really bad stats for its price, but because the card is just incredibly hard to obtain. The reason this card is so hard to obtain is because its class is smarty, and it is just kind of hard to get smarty cards in general, let alone a legendary one.
The _Eureka_ card (The Eureka card is Professor Brianstorm's premium legendary zombie signature superpower trick card. Its ability is to conjure 3 random cards. The cards conjured can be any card. And obviously, the Eureka card costs 1 because it is a superpower card) may have a possibility to be able to conjure superpowers, but I have never seen it happen before, so I don't know if you can conjure other superpower cards with it.
I was coincidentally watching Fry's videos. I can't yet watch this video, but once I do, I'll comment what I think)
Yay yay go Sylvia)
Unlock as much RNG based cards, like molekale or leap
Build a deck around/out of those cards and win by complete luck
You either win against any deck or you don't. No skill or absurd grind needed
I mean, in order for that to work 100% effectively, you need HG, so good luck.
@AzureWolf168 Or, you know, just make him and BC available like all the other heroes by getting packs, but just stuff them in galactic gardens packs instead?
most RNG cards except for like Captain Cucumber aren't top tier though (even molekale is just good/great). Most top meta decks seem to just have really strong cards
@@board-qu9iu but they are fun. Wich I find more entertaining than stomping every match with conman or tricarrotops
@@bingoviini true it's just that most aren't used in the competative field
I really wish I could like Héroes, as there is way so many stuff that has so much potential: the concept of the heroes as well as their designas well as the card game idea (which was something new to the franchise), could make a great game, but the insane grind as well as the lack of content outside of the story mode unallowed me to have much fun. Heck, I even tried the mp, but I never made it more than rank 27 (skill issue? Maybe. But still...)
The main and only reason I played for around 350hr was simply because of the mods. Guys, seriously, DO NOT SLEEP ON THE MODS.
Anyway, I feel like this is the game with the most wasted potential in the franchise, just next to Bfn. You can clearly see that they didn't put much passion in many areas, and is really sad how it just stopped getting updates with no warning or anything.
Anyway, good video.
for real, don't sleep on the mods!!!
I still think about the Heroes cosmetics in GW2 and I'm mad I can only get the two free ones due to joining late
"one other way"
thinking cap, that one bird which everyone combos with primal nut and forcefield and the space wizard: am i a joke to you?
I disagree though it does not fully pay to win like Brawl Stars because you can copy and edit a “budget deck” on TH-cam, Reddit, and PvZ Heroes Discord. A good budget deck is viable even to fairly match a high-rarity deck. It depends on the meta and also there is an unlimited gems and ads glitch or setting which takes a long to get more gems to watch ads especially if you do something like watch a movie while you can get gems by pressing ads for gems.
8:50 and if you complete all 200 and have you're EA account connected, you can get cool accessories for gw2, but only the first 2 of them since for whatever reason you cant get the rest anymore, so basically it's a waste of time
I could be mistaken, but I believe you can get those cosmetics by just having the game installed, and you don’t need to go through all the extra trouble
Well i’ve had gw2 since 2016, and i couldn’t connect them to my ea account for some reason
I never cared for heores, but I don't dislike it
imagine if PVZ Heroes got remake and make playable and free to play for everyone
new expansions
new heroes
new packs
improving the missions (with a big reward)
I looooove this game. Been playing it for a while now. I always go back to it. I feel is great, love the battles, I wish there was more!
Yea this game is an aquired taste, but that wont stop me from enjoing it
i will definitely say the game gets WAAAY more fun once you start unlocking legendary cards like, well, most of them theyre so broken, and the combos you can do and the decks you can make are incredibly varied. a personal favorite of mine is leap decks, in which you use transformation stations and evolutionary leaps to make smaller zombies into huge zombies overtime, eventually reaching zombot 9000 if you play your cards right.
I think Heroes has the °best gameplay in the franchise: relatively even turn based pvp AND tons of original ideas for both sides AND playstyle variety AND fun gimmicks? Everyone else should be taking notes from this game, it does a lot right at its peak!
°Assuming lategame players with maximum pay-to-win/edited save files with access to 4 of each card and every Hero.
I hate the gameplay just because of zombie tricks
@@amazingboi9388 I mean I used to as well, can't fault you for it
@@amazingboi9388 Actually, I think Zombies have it worse: Your power is always split between Units and Tricks, so imagine trying to buff smth and then the Plants Turn happens to your buff targets...
The game kinda boring for me, but when I get some more cards it will prob be fun
Probably just a mandela effect thingy but I think originaly each campaign originaly had 100 levels, 50 cause 5 levels per the 10 heroes and another 50 which are basically just a 2nd campaign (which also have no comic cutscenes), it's possible thoug that I may just be missremembering as I never got far beyond the 1st set of heroes.
Also in an update 2 heroes were added, both space themed; one carrot one (for plants) and another imp (for zombies); but as far as I can tell there's no way to unlock them right now.
There are events for them every like 6-7 months. They can only be obtained from packs during those events, I got both from the last one(approximately a year ago).
Love how you called Heroes more pay to win than PvZ2 😭
As a long players of this game, I agree with this completely. Winning games feel like they're more based off luck bc u can ethier get a fair matchup or a completely broken LvL 40 matchup. And unless you have really good cards, you're gonna be struggling as the only way to get them is packs that require consistant everyday constant grinding. The craft system exist but the way u get sparks is obsecure and even then cards are rather expensive.
Have you ever considered making a series where you explain all the TF2 classes? TF2 is still really popular to this day and it is free on Steam, I think.
It has a lot of content to, you could even explain all the weapon variants each class has as well.
They should’ve put a difficulty setting for AI battles.
Easy: The AI will most of the time make mistakes and bad plays, giving you a sure victory every match.
Normal: The AI will play on an average skill level and give you both a challenge but a fun experience.
Hard: The AI will be a tougher challenge and will play cards strategically and make victory difficult to achieve.
Master: THE RNG WILL FAVOR THE AI, YOU WILL NEVER WIN!!! (Basically the only difficulty EA/Popcap decided to start and leave it on.)
bro that’s just a skill issue on your part
@@beanman3982 more like Popcap/EA wanting you to cough up money for packs.
I have seen so much r34 of that flower I swear to god.
Fr 😭
I still actively play heroes fairly often and I adore its gameplay so much I just wish it didn’t get abandoned so quickly
I’ve been playing since the beta even
I played the game when it first got released. I enjoyed the game a lot but maybe because I was a bit younger. I eventually quit the game but picked it up for a second time a few years later and I definitely noticed how the game was a bit grindier. I played Hearthstone and Legends of Runeterra a bit but the turn mechanics in PvZH was the most interesting to me. It was always fun trying to build a deck around several niche cards like the Podfather (I vaguely remember him getting more stats the more Peashooter type plants were on the board).
Two words “Budget Decks”
Budget Decks for Beginners
Budget Decks:
Plants
Best: Mopzilla (Chompzilla)
Zombies:
Best: Budget Burn or Player Removal (Electric Boogaloo)
Don't worry PVZ matchers, we'll get out game next time
PVZ Match Nation will see an honest review one day…
Hacking in all cards is super easy, just do that and it becomes super fun imo.
this game is only good when you grind long enough or you hack gems/sparks/cards in, hacking those in are completely fine (in competitive) as long as you don't do stuff like, 99 brains/sun or something like X40 or more than 4 of a card, when you get everything (or enough to make a deck) this game actually goes pretty hard except for the block meter and most of the rng stuff, molekale, seedling, and conjure are a whole different story though cause they're actually fun to use
I'm such a sucker for this game. I've played it since mid 2018 and I have to admit that I'm honestly really sad about the lack of updates.
Pvz Heroes is genuinely one of my fav games, but it only gets fun if you hack in the cards…but god damn is it worth it. I love card battlers, (I play yu-gi-oh and LoR) so when I found out about a pvz card game I was hesitant. And when I played it, it was so fucking hard to progress. But when I hacked in the cards, it opened up so many strategies, and props to FryEmUp, prob my most watched youtuber, single-handedly carrying the game.
You just remind me this game. I use to play hours on my ipod touch ! But progression is now lost. Guess this is why i enjoy marvel snap today
admitting bias will always be better than poorly concealing it and claiming neutrality
Gotta be real, i like Heroes (i play it without transactions), just it has that problem that is well... you know. And i have some ideas of how to repair it:
1. Obtaining both cards and heroes via campaign (Seriously, WHY?)
2. I guess... remove some of the ingame transactions? There are just too much of those.
And... that's it. That is all of the ideas
I've played the game since launch, gotta be one of my favorite games. Due to grinding ranked season rewards for many years, I actually have almost all the cards (just missing a few legendaries), and the game is very fun once you have enough cards to start theory-crafting your own decks. However, since the game is so pay-to-win, I do not recommend this game to others, despite how much I love it. It's only fun because I have the freedom to make whatever deck I want with all the cards, without that, all you can make is just typical pile-of-garbage decks, or copy some existing budget deck that you didn't build yourself. You can't be creative & see results, which is such a shame.
My advice to any new players who wanna play this: Use hacked decks, but only run hacked decks that are actually legitimate. That way you get to play around with all the cards without handing over your money to EA, and without ruining the fun for others
Firs time player. After playing plenty of tcgs and mobile cqrd games, i can say that this game really took me by surprise. At first, i was just gonna download the OG PvZ game. But then this game caught my eye. A card game with the PvZ theme? Sign me up. Its a downer that you dont gwt anything for completing all the story missions. The turn wheel is intriguing with the shield charge mechanic is genius. Taken too many damage? No problem, here, have a power up. So good. I've only unlocked the sunflower girl, might switch back to the starter hero. Can't wait to see how the zombos play. They really mjssed the opportunity of making this game physical. That would've done pretty good
It’s unfortunate that the heroes community is saturated by the pvz community. It would do much better with the wider card game community
Feels good to be late
New membership tab is kinda cringe. Anyways, I recently got back into this game and it’s been a blast, or should I say, a berry blast?
you should see the hackers in this game. I'd say i either lose in this game because of how paid to win it is, or because the guy was hacking and prevents himself from taking any damage for prevents you from getting the kill shot by doing that same thing. Honestly, this game make me tear my hair out!
Yeah the P2W grindfest totally killed my interest in the game, but I ended up enjoying the game a lot more after I installed some cheats that gave me every card.
SOME one! Get ON line. I need to finish the "win a multi player match" Quest PLS!
It look hard at the start becuz u don’t have many good card and bot have a rly good card
But if u play it a lil bit more and u get lot more card u will find it very fun
you can get superpowers from quazard, thinking cap and bird of paradise
wasted potential is the best way to describe this game. with how big the moding scene is in the pvz community i hope this game one day will get a mod too
Actually, several mods have been developed for Heroes. Mostly balance patches and shitpost stuff, but mods regardless
@@SylviaYSIintresting, I might look into that
You BETTER say nice things about BfN. You don’t know how much this means to me. Also, nice vid!
BFN is my current favorite PVZ game… so it’d be weird for me if I DIDN’T have anything nice to say about it 😭
everyone saying Fry is keeping the game alive, but deep down we all know it's Solar Flare ...
If you like this game I recommend playing stormbound instead just saying 😅
For me, every game is a highlight.
I wish it still got updated
Hacking in every card is real easy so the p2w aspect isn't so bad nowadays. But you didn't hear that from me though
I enjoy the game but thats more because I goof around with hacked decks on occasion, along with having every card in the game at my disposal, which if thats what I have to do to enjoy the game? That's not exactly great
I’ve found once you push through the game enough that you really start understanding it, and get enough decent cards you can actually good deck and push ultimate league, the game can become much more fun an interesting. But yeah the grind fest is insane in this game, way to much of a barrier of entry.
This game literally gave my friend Stockholm syndrome
Funny plant toilet game
I still dont understand how popcap went from making bangers like these to the slop we ended up with today. The game doesnt appeal to everyone, but to those that want to try it, im not even joking, i genuenly believe this is one of the best card games ever, the luck aspect being not too much nor too little and if youre new just make an agressive deck of uncommon/rare cards on solar flare and youre good to go. You actually get a ton of gems if you rank up and enter new leagues
Agreed, as long as you like this type of strategy game, you will not regret trying it. If only popcap didn't abandon it...
Really love this game
i love it when sylviaysi said "its heroin time" and heroed all over everyone and this video grossed over 999 heroillion dollars
You are the next RedHead Gaming
I would hope not, to be honest 😭
What headbutter
My favorite of the pvz games
We all know that people remember pvz heroes for…certain reasons I won't say because I don't want this comment to get deleted
@AzureWolf168 honestly, pvz heroes kinda fell off in terms of R34 since pvz R34 died off as soon as 2021 hit or even earlier since I don't remember, would be interesting if someone broadly covered that side of the pvz fandom though
So, if I were to meet you or talk to you one day, I suppose one wouldn't really point heroes out
Personally I have love and hate relationship with hero’s I love how the game looks and feels the music is good not ground breaking by any means the game is simply is a lot of fun to play in my expect how much it sucks to be unlucky at times which brings me to what I hate I don’t even need to mention the micro transactions so I will talk about the other stuff which is English at times because man can you just from rng sometimes and don’t get me wrong it’s how the game is played and I like because how unpredictable because when rng works in your favor it’s one of the best feelings ever but when it doesn’t it’s so unsatisfying to lose due to something that couldn’t be ready but again I’m kinda happy because it makes most matches unpredictable and that’s definitely not a bad thing but idk I just love hero’s a ton
This is probably tied with modded pvz 2 for my favorite pvz game. Hacking in all the cards is very easy and once you have them all online becomes really really interesting and actually fair on later levels. Its one of those games that is kinda bullshit but in a really fun way. Sad to see that you don't really like this game but I totally understand it. The only thing I don't really agree with is the classes thing and one being a lot better than the other. The synergies that the classes have with eachother is a lot more important and every class and hero has their uses. Otherwise i can completely agree with everything said. Good video!
Ah, the most P2W PVZ game!
I USED to love it, haha.
But then I realized how much you had to spend on this game to get all of the good cards...
Just time really(and a lot of luck lol)
One problem I have with the game is how awful it is at teaching players how to effectively make decks and strategies. Unless you go on the internet for help, you’re not going to even be half decent at the game
Also popcap basically gave up on adding story into the missions because eventually, the missions don’t come with a comic panels anymore
this game is good i think i did a cool desk once and i was scared to lose with it because it might curse it forever so i stopped playing and made a long nihilistic pro-suicide "philological" rant about how we are all doomed to fail
i stopped playing 5 years ago.
PVZ Heros is alright I guess, nothing like fortnite though
Real talk
pvz heroes is honestly quite good for what most people would believe it to be! it's perfect for when you have time to kill or are just in the mood to do a round, as it is a very fun game to play at times. it has super interesting interesting mechanics for a card game, and if you have some of the better cards in the game, it is truly one of the better PvZ games in the whole franchise.
however, it is VERY pay to win, as legendaries are just SO much better than every other card rarity and cost the most sparks out of any to craft. it is nowhere near impossible to win if you play against a p2w player, but it is a lot harder in general. at least it has better f2p than clash royale tho XD
I love PvZ Heroes, I play it most out of any PvZ game.
Oh wow new video
I didn't do campaign
gooning to solar flare rn
This game is the one and only good pvz game i love the gameplay alot
How do i beat wild west level 23?
wrong game buddy
Nu uh😊
@@theprogamerryan130 wild west day 23 huh? Wat,s that?
This game is REALLY fun but its grindy
Yeah but you don’t need to grind, you can use a budget decks
As for my actual opinion on the game, I legit tricked myself into thinking I liked it because I love PVZ but absolutely despise Hearthstone with the deepest burning passion of any current day Overwatch follower.
The game is a gigantic grind fest which is annoying. The game is full of the most toxic cards I’ve ever seen in any card game which is next level annoying. The game was completely abandoned so everyone knows full well nothing will ever be changes and it is stuck in this state forever which is impossibly annoying. The game doesn’t reward you for commitment which is stupid.
EVEN AFTER ALL THAT. This game is still *OBJECTIVELY BETTER* than actual hearthstone. Fight me on that Hearthstone is one of the worst games I’ve ever played, legitimately it is actively a day ruiner I would have more fun spending 5 hours doing nothing in the world’s darkest, quietest room than 5 hours of hearthstone.
Yes I can tell I’m angry, have you never been mad at anything ever?
Forget me nuts, galacta cactus, tricarrotops, doom shroom, banana launcher, captain cucumber, espresso fiesta, any freeze card, dark matter dragon fruit, haunted pumpking, Aloesaurus, astro vera, cheese cutter, trickster, conman, zombots wrath, zombology teacher, pogo bouncer, space cowboy.
M E T A
I like pvz heroes...
My favorite game ❤
Respectfully you are a Clash Royale player. 😁