Hey mak, the editing with the pictures was very nice this time, seeing the pics while you're talking about them (just a positive feedback after it's been criticized in the last vid), also I loved the video 💛
@makingemi Would love it if you could keep the picture up when you talk at the same time! (an example is like when Alayna plugs her instagram, it's on the side and you can still see her talking)
yesss, I love you guys together! I hope you have more collabs with Alayna *and* Ashley in the future, or even all 3 of you if the universe could handle that much gayness all at once
mak, you’re a natural at interviewing. you asked some really great questions and shared a good amount about yourself when it felt right; conversation kept flowing effortlessly. would love to see more of this series!
Hey, I just wanted to tell you, that your Coming Out Video was really important to me. I had a complete Breakdown after watching because I was with my boyfriend of a few years at that time and all the things you said felt so familiar (I too had my "I am definitely bi" phase)... I also tried to rationalize it away for some time but we broke up a little later. Luckily my family was with me through the whole process. I am out and proud and seeing a girl I really like for some time. Thank you for sharing your experience online. It helped me so much!
Hearing Alayna talk about her coming out is just so affirming for me. I had a boyfriend when I realized I was gay and because of the break up and the confusion, the initial stages were pretty traumatic. I sometimes feel a little guilty that my lesbian realization has such negative memories associated, but I definitely relate to the freedom she was talking about. Love you both ❤️❤️
I unapologetically call my father "Daddy", and I'm 33 years old. It's always weirded me out that people call their partner daddy. Personally, I don't think there is a problem with either option, but would find it rather concerning if someone blended the two. 😱
Yeah I think it’s actually kinda sad that the associations with the word have changed so much that it’s seen as weird to call your actual father daddy. Like damn it’s not my fault that your mind goes to sexual thoughts when I’m just talking about my literal dad 👀😂
I'm in my 30s and I also call my dad Daddy. I still sometimes call my mom Mommy, but I usually call her Mumsy because it feels like a more acceptable nickname if I'm talking to her in public. I never could call them Mom or Dad, it just feels weird.
i would just like to let u know that after watching this video, i went to my closet and got out all the ~gay~ shirts i’ve been hiding in there for months, then cut them the way i like and made matching bandanas with the scraps, and now i am ready for a summer of being the queer-presenting lesbian i have always wanted to be :,)
Alayna is one of the few people that I can identify with because I feel like we went through the same process. I found out that I was gay later in life and it was hard to find people like me, i felt like most lesbians knew they were gay when they were really young and never had a crush on a guy, whereas I was a complete heterosexual cliché when I was a teenager, a bit like Alayna. The thing is that I would never date the guy I had a crush on and if he liked me back I would stop liking him immediatly, that is one of the things that made me realize that I was gay. To hear Alayna say that she would really supress it to the point where she had no idea really resonates with me. So thank you for the video !
The talk of clothes makes me think of a student I worked with at my university. I am a 53 year grandma who is completing my masters. The student I was working with is a transgender female. While I identify as a lesbian I have never really had much interaction (that I am aware of) with the trans community. Our university has a clothing closet in our Pride and Gender Equity Center. One day sitting and talking with this student their confidence in themselves when dressed as a trans woman really impressed me. They said people asking when they were gonna stop playing dress up. The conversation that came out of the student that day really made me understand them on a deeper level and I loved it.
What Alayna said at 15:40 resonated SO HARD with my acceptance of being trans. My euphoria overshone all the fear and the rest by a long shot. But as u do, I could absolutely feel all these negative things down and off to the side at the same time. WOW the feels that brought up Note: to Mak's point shortly thereafter with this^ for me it was "feeling mediocre or worse" was what I thought "feeling normal" felt like. Similarities and differences are interesting if feel-heavy in coming out stories
I love how towards the end of the video, and when you talked about clothing, you managed to disentangle femininity/masculinity from gender. It makes me think abour how gender expression does not mean gender and how these binaries can (but don't have to) be applied to so many different people without immediately putting them into a box. I love how you said that your confidence can grow massively if you dress and express the way you want to. I'm also in a very confusing phase of my gender/sexuality journey and rn I'm trying to be really masculine so that people sort of question me or stop putting me into a box at first sight. And I do realize that I don't like dressing feminine for the same struggles you guys talked about. But through these realizations I also dismantle my own binary categories engrained in my mind. Maybe when I've managed to be more true to myself I might want to experiment with femininity again. Or maybe not. But you showed me that all is valid and all is good.
I love the fact that I can clearly see a bop it twist it pull it game on your shelf next to your candle there. My eyes had just kinda wondered for a sec and thats the first thing I saw.
The two of you are wonderful together. You could do more of this. Your conversation was like therapy for me. You had me thinking about things I've not only never explored in therapy but also hadn't admitted to myself. Thank you so much for that. Yes, I will further explore this in therapy.
Same. And I'm a therapist myself, but their candor around these topics and their insights have been extraordinarily helpful to me, despite being out for 10+ years and in my 40's. I feel like I'm STILL figuring it out.
The ending of "We have way too much to talk about." Accurate. You guys are truly speaking from two very valid and absolutely lovely perspectives that are as Mak said in Alayna's vid "curious". Wtf is Layna's journey if not learning to be curious about yourself? Follow the white rabbit!! It might lead you somewhere that feels like Neverland! I know that's how queerness felt to me after an entire childhood of repression. These are the lesbian voices I find myself seeking in an online swamp. The ones that are humble in their pursuit of truth, but HONORING themselves. 🎖 Danke, loves.
i gotta say, this talk about the role of clothing when it comes to gender and sexuality expression was really insightful! especially as someone who is going through that phase of trying to find my style and what makes me feel best. also, huge compliment to u Mak on ur follow-up questions to Alayna! i'm currently trying to improve my social skills lol so i've been paying attention to stuff like that lately and i feel like ur questions rlly provoked an interesting conversation :)
When Mak started saying you can wear a dress and still be masc, my mind immediately jumped to Jaune Arc in RWBY volume 2. If you know, you know. Respect the Chucks!
I relate to the detachment of clothes throughout being in high school. I would just throw on whatever and whenever my mom took me shopping and asked what jeans I wanted, I would just choose whatever fit me because nothing really interested me. But when I learned about alt fashion, it became something really important to me and I realized what my style really was (and that I didn't care about jeans because I never wanted to wear them in the first place).
Heres an anecdote: I used to struggle with my expression because I wanted to wear makeup (and paint my nails, i just dig color and artsy adornments) and I felt like it didnt "go" with the clothes I actually feel good in. I would force myself to dress femme because of this, and I was just always uncomfortable in my body. At the time I thought it was simple insecurity. When I realized I was gay, i said okay, that happened, fuck it, I'll do what i want. Kept wearing fun artsy makeup and nail color whenever I wanted _and_ leaned right in to the clothes I actually like. I wear mostly mens clothes and it feels GREAT. Man, my confidence absolutely sky rocketed. I started liking myself for the first time in my mid 20s.. I had no idea that would or could happen but I am so glad it did. Tl;dr: do what you want, it rules.
@@mary_chase forreal. I had no idea how much clothes/presentation could affect the way one feels. I used to think that stuff was kind of shallow.. not in a bad way, just that it couldnt possibly mean _that_ much.
@@irradiated_woman8016 agreeed like if I'm feeling my outfit I'm so much more confident and happier, it's amazing how much confidence I gained after starting to dress more "like me"
On my gosh, I've just binge watched the last two videos with you two collabing and this one!! XDD Y'all are hilarious but also so mature and helpful!!! I could cry with how relatable and down to earth y'all are and I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate the time and effort it took to make these videos; as well as the confidence it took to share them!! THANK YOU x100!! Please stay well.
Straight man here, but i want to say. Thank you so much for this whole discussion about outfits. Male fashion is... well historically and socially and culturally quite limiting, and quite honestly, I think that this kind of discussions could be totally be quite the same for just straight men trying to find their own style and expression themselves. Like no kidding, I think there is a lot we could benefit from talking fashion and discovering ourselves with queer people that use and "remix" masc and less masc styles. So thank you so much to both of you. Also goddamn I want to make a fashion thing for straight men talking "hot masc" with a lesbien now....
Hey Mak, I am French and I literally forgot I was watching a video. I was just enjoying the conversation as a friend sitting next to you. It’s one of the most uninhibited and safe queer TH-cam video I watch for a long time. Thank you so much, and thank you to Alayna too because I discovered your channel thanks to her ! I can’t wait to see a new video of you two !!
For what it’s worth, I think Mak would rock a simple dress. Nothing frilly, but a tee shirt dress or something like that? Totally. (No pressure though! One’s own comfort and expression is the most important!)
I'm pretty sure that just as you can you can dress moderately masc but have everybody read you as femme, you can dress moderately femme but have everyone get masc from you. I don't have any experience trying either, but I've definitely done my share of observing... so yeah, I reckon you could come across as masc in a T-shirt dress given masc accessories & attitude. Or femme in jeans & a lumberjack shirt...
I'm thinking that Mac could rock a tux ... way better than a dress ... like a proper James Bond full on Tux with cufflinks and maybe we could also throw in a Astin Martin too!! That would be a mood 4sure!!
I just want to say, I have seen a person who is more masculine in a dress who was really confident and still had their more masculine mannerisms and it was honestly really attractive. It might not be that way for you in a dress, but I just thought i'd throw that out there.
I know I'm really late but I love this collaboration, because you two respectfully talk about such important topics people don't talk about. I also appreciate both of your respect to bisexuality, because as a bisexual I don't always find lesbians respecting bisexuality, even those the previously associated as bisexual make it appear that it really is just a faze. This collab is honestly super validating and brings up a lot of things for me to learn about while still being really fun
Just when I thought this couldn’t get better you brought Alayna into my life, you both rock together !!! Love the chemistry between you two and all that you share and discuss … priceless 👌🏼 keep this colabs coming girls!
I definitely relate to what Alayna said about feeling much more comfortable with wearing what they want as they come to terms and become comfortable with their body. I’m trans masc and when I was younger I fell down the trans med pipeline (I agreed with some stuff but disliked the ppl who were apart of the community. I’m older now and I’m very glad I didn’t do anything to hurt anyone.) I’m currently 6 months and 2 weeks and 6 days on t. Now that I no longer follow trans med ideology Im so much more happy and I present how I want to. Passing is important to me personally so I do dress more masculine but now I do things that I would’ve hated before (before transitioning and before changing my views). I was definitely a lot more depressed back then. I thought that trans masc people shouldn’t present femininely (to me this meant wearing makeup and skirts and dresses etcetera). So when I wore those things or even thought about it, it made me so dysphoric. It’s definitely something I could talk about for a long time. After I began to accept myself and changed my viewpoints (aka I’m not a trans med believer) I got so much more happy. Since I’m barely on t and I’m pre-top surgery (I do bind but I have a larger chest so I still don’t pass most of the time) there are things I do avoid since I live in the south (I try to go stealth in public) and I tend to get misgendered if I wear more feminine things. I started to wear makeup for winter percussion and although it does make me kinda dysphoric it reminds me of how much I hate and love it. I still paint my nails but I don’t wear skirts anymore. I really miss skirts although they give me dysphoria I want to be at a point in my transition where I can confidently wear skirts again.
This video makes my day. Thank you Mak and Alayna for this hilarious and insightful video.😋 Much love, from a girl who is post-surgery and drowsy on painkillers
For me my first haircut where I got short hair was 'the breakthrough' but then came the realization that I loved wearing my brother's and dad's clothes
This video is so important and much needed for all "baby gays". Thank you both for it ❤❤ I'm 26, turning 27, came out as bi half a year ago. It's honestly been a roller coaster, and figuring out even something as banal as clothing feels like a huge revelation. Both of you helped me immensly with figuring myself out and understanding some behaviours from my past, and for that I want to thank you from the depth of my heart ❤🏳️🌈
For the longest time ever I hated feminine clothing, made me feel weirded out, like it didn’t feel like me nor look good. And now I like it. Wearing dresses with the right cut just so I feel freaking gorgeous and also so that others can look at me because I know it can drive them crazy. It’s fun. But also that took me a while to get used to it, to start liking it, to let myself like those things because I always felt like I’ve been raised not to be “like the other girls”. And then I realized I just wanted to fit in and be like the other girls while also I didn’t because all I knew was being “different”. Wore my brothers clothes all the time, I didn’t care. Messed up stuff and complicated I know. Essentially, now, that so many years have passed and during those I’ve been looking for who I am, I’ve found myself liking clothing more, finding clothes I like and am confident in. It was a big step out of my comfort zone but gosh is it nice now.
I absolutely HATED shopping until I started to wear more masc-ish clothing! I was VERY hyper femme because my mom wanted me to be... But that's when she bought my clothes, and now that I have adult money I wear more masc clothing and LOVE shopping!
I related so much when you talked about you felt more relaxed with your presentation when you validated your own queer identity. When i first came out i presented hyper-masculine for years. And evem tho that wasn’t like an act for the most part, there was a part of shutting down any femininity in order to put myself in a position of the “gayest” role. I don’t know how to explain it but yeah super relateable!!
I came out 11 years ago, but I've only started dressing masc since the start of the pandemic. I also never knew what to wear, my mom dressing me, dressing for the boys and then I came out and I still dressed the same. Felt safe. But I also feel/felt a lot of guilt of never daring, with it not being professional and 'I should know by now'. Feels good to try it, but still exciting
This video series was so much fun! You two vibe so well and it was interesting to hear about how you think about things and how differently(or not) you experienced them!
I was following Alayna and I've never watched this collaboration for some reason, I'm glad I found it eventually and I really appreciate the feedback and the advice that came throughout the video. Also the whole interview made me relaxed and involved, almost like a group of friends gathered and started discussing interesting topics! Hopefully we can see more of you two!!!
So on point about clothing! For the longest time I looked at what I liked and thought 'that's too cool for me'. Now I wear it and feel extremely cool 😂
LOOOOOVE. 100% relatable, I came out last year (at 30). I was more of a tom boy when I was young, then once I got to middle school I started to dress a bit more fem (turns out when I thought I wanted the girls' clothes, I actually wanted them). When I was 15 I dyed hair firetruck red, then black, then bleached it poorly, then cut all the orange off up to my ears. My hair was still a gradient of platinum to rust lol. Had a couple boyfriends through high school, became then hyperfem. In my 20s, my "feeling normal" was transformed to "feeling good" thanks to a lot of alcohol. Now I'm still figuring out my style, but it's kind of in the middle :P
Thank you Mak and Alayna for making this video, hearing Alayna’s coming out journey (sorry Alayna I know you don’t like that word lol) helped validate some things for me.
I love that Alayna said she avoided queer media like the plague because I was the opposite... As a teen I used to watch aaaaall the lesbian TH-camrs (Stevie, Cammie, Shannon Beveridge, that couple - forgot their name, they broke up very long ago - where one is a vet and her girlfriend was British, Rose and Rosie...) and i watched the L word so many times... And I always tried to either hide it or close the tab (the computer was in a common area in my family home) when someone was around and when my brother once asked me what I was watching I said 'oooh I watch this show because it's interesting, makes me understand a different experience since I'm not like that'... Basically acting like I was doing research just to hide the fact that I was hot for all of the characters in the L word 😂
I was always supper masculine and my perents would dress me feminine and I'd hate it as a child lots of tears and fight, until I could pick the cloths I wanted but it was still hard at family events not knowing how to dress, being embarrassed/ashamed for wanting to wear a shirt and tie. I accepted my sexuality early on but it took along time for me to accept my gender even though it was right there Infront of me all along. It was the shame I had atached ,internalised transfobia. 'it was natural for other people to be transgender but I couldn't be transgender! What would people think!? '....I'd just berry my identity and just identify as atracted to wemon and like to present as a guy.
Honestly, a few days back I tried on some of my mom's dresses and I low-key liked it, I do calisthenics and looking at myself in the mirror and my big arms on a dress. I felt I looked kinda like Ronda Rousey when she's in award ceremonies lol
I know this character isn’t gay, but when you talked about not really picturing a person with more masculine mannerism in a dress it automatically made me think of Lettie from fast and furious 7 wearing an evening gown having a full on brawl with another woman (played by Ronda Rousey the mma fighter). Two woman whose characters aren’t hyper feminine and come across with more masculine tendencies looking absolutely stunning in fancy dresses. I love seeing y’all’s discussions and y’all interacting, this was a great video!!!
THANK YOU for mentioning how haircuts are kinda scary! I have really long hair, and have been wanting to cut it for a while, but have been feeling scared to :)
Okay so I just finished the video and the argument at the end really struck a chord in me… ‘cause if you think about it, you don’t usually see masc presenting woman and non-binary people with other masc, it’s usually masc femme or femme femme (but you can still se who could be the “top” in the relationship) which sucks because I really love “boys clothes” (even tho clothes don’t have a gender) and that is what I feel most comfortable wearing 90% of the time but there is this big part of me that is very much attracted to masc energy and I feel like every time they ask masc what is their type they answer femme. It’s a real conundrum, I want to dress masc and still feel like a woman who can attract other masc. Or maybe that is just a me problem lol
I think there are plenty of straight women who also don’t like overly feminine clothes. My two straight cousins who are close to me in age have a very similar aesthetic to me, though mine is slightly more androgynous most of the time (e.g., shoes, looser fitting clothes, though I used to be almost exactly like them in style). They have a sister who will wear all of the tops (certain kinds of sleeves and ruffles are a big no for us) and coats we absolutely will not. They’ll dress in lace for weddings (and I won’t-I’ll be the one dressed in black), but these are not flouncy dresses, no ruffles, no florals, all classic lines.
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Not the Justin Bieber photoshopping
Hey mak, the editing with the pictures was very nice this time, seeing the pics while you're talking about them (just a positive feedback after it's been criticized in the last vid), also I loved the video 💛
glad you like it! love getting feedback from you guys thats useful especially when I have the time to put it into practice!
@makingemi Would love it if you could keep the picture up when you talk at the same time! (an example is like when Alayna plugs her instagram, it's on the side and you can still see her talking)
yesss, I love you guys together! I hope you have more collabs with Alayna *and* Ashley in the future, or even all 3 of you if the universe could handle that much gayness all at once
screw the universe idk if WE could handle that much
@@Makingemi haha! so true, the amount of gay chaos with just two of you was pretty powerful
@@Makingemi lol
We believe in you.
YES we need all three of them to collab! That would be everything my three favorite TH-camrs
@@Makingemi well this didn’t age well
mak, you’re a natural at interviewing. you asked some really great questions and shared a good amount about yourself when it felt right; conversation kept flowing effortlessly. would love to see more of this series!
Yes yes yes
Oops the “I just came out” isn’t the right one! The blue cap and jeans was still deep in the bi days 😬
Hi😁
Hey, I just wanted to tell you, that your Coming Out Video was really important to me. I had a complete Breakdown after watching because I was with my boyfriend of a few years at that time and all the things you said felt so familiar (I too had my "I am definitely bi" phase)... I also tried to rationalize it away for some time but we broke up a little later. Luckily my family was with me through the whole process. I am out and proud and seeing a girl I really like for some time.
Thank you for sharing your experience online. It helped me so much!
As a femme queer, thank you so much for touching on the subject of our visibility! x
would love to get more femmes opinions/stories out there!
@@Makingemi You should collab with Stevie and Cammie Scott.
obsessed with y’all’s chemistry
same
same
i love what you said about confidence "if you don't honor the things that make you feel good and the things that don't, you will never get there"
Hearing Alayna talk about her coming out is just so affirming for me. I had a boyfriend when I realized I was gay and because of the break up and the confusion, the initial stages were pretty traumatic. I sometimes feel a little guilty that my lesbian realization has such negative memories associated, but I definitely relate to the freedom she was talking about. Love you both ❤️❤️
YESS a part two!! I love Mak and Alayna ❤️✨❤️✨
She's the bomb.com
I unapologetically call my father "Daddy", and I'm 33 years old. It's always weirded me out that people call their partner daddy. Personally, I don't think there is a problem with either option, but would find it rather concerning if someone blended the two. 😱
Yeah I think it’s actually kinda sad that the associations with the word have changed so much that it’s seen as weird to call your actual father daddy. Like damn it’s not my fault that your mind goes to sexual thoughts when I’m just talking about my literal dad 👀😂
Daddy = actual father gang come thru!
I'm in my 30s and I also call my dad Daddy. I still sometimes call my mom Mommy, but I usually call her Mumsy because it feels like a more acceptable nickname if I'm talking to her in public. I never could call them Mom or Dad, it just feels weird.
i would just like to let u know that after watching this video, i went to my closet and got out all the ~gay~ shirts i’ve been hiding in there for months, then cut them the way i like and made matching bandanas with the scraps, and now i am ready for a summer of being the queer-presenting lesbian i have always wanted to be :,)
Thats so awesome
Thank you for this! In definitely doing it!!
Alayna is one of the few people that I can identify with because I feel like we went through the same process. I found out that I was gay later in life and it was hard to find people like me, i felt like most lesbians knew they were gay when they were really young and never had a crush on a guy, whereas I was a complete heterosexual cliché when I was a teenager, a bit like Alayna. The thing is that I would never date the guy I had a crush on and if he liked me back I would stop liking him immediatly, that is one of the things that made me realize that I was gay. To hear Alayna say that she would really supress it to the point where she had no idea really resonates with me. So thank you for the video !
The talk of clothes makes me think of a student I worked with at my university. I am a 53 year grandma who is completing my masters. The student I was working with is a transgender female. While I identify as a lesbian I have never really had much interaction (that I am aware of) with the trans community. Our university has a clothing closet in our Pride and Gender Equity Center. One day sitting and talking with this student their confidence in themselves when dressed as a trans woman really impressed me. They said people asking when they were gonna stop playing dress up. The conversation that came out of the student that day really made me understand them on a deeper level and I loved it.
mak is so good at asking alayna interesting questions and making alayna feel comfortable she is such a good interviewer
What Alayna said at 15:40 resonated SO HARD with my acceptance of being trans. My euphoria overshone all the fear and the rest by a long shot. But as u do, I could absolutely feel all these negative things down and off to the side at the same time. WOW the feels that brought up
Note: to Mak's point shortly thereafter with this^ for me it was "feeling mediocre or worse" was what I thought "feeling normal" felt like. Similarities and differences are interesting if feel-heavy in coming out stories
I love how towards the end of the video, and when you talked about clothing, you managed to disentangle femininity/masculinity from gender. It makes me think abour how gender expression does not mean gender and how these binaries can (but don't have to) be applied to so many different people without immediately putting them into a box. I love how you said that your confidence can grow massively if you dress and express the way you want to. I'm also in a very confusing phase of my gender/sexuality journey and rn I'm trying to be really masculine so that people sort of question me or stop putting me into a box at first sight. And I do realize that I don't like dressing feminine for the same struggles you guys talked about. But through these realizations I also dismantle my own binary categories engrained in my mind. Maybe when I've managed to be more true to myself I might want to experiment with femininity again. Or maybe not. But you showed me that all is valid and all is good.
I love the fact that I can clearly see a bop it twist it pull it game on your shelf next to your candle there. My eyes had just kinda wondered for a sec and thats the first thing I saw.
HAHA I love that you noticed
15:13 Ah yes the three types of parents: Mommy, Daddy, and Swaggy
The two of you are wonderful together. You could do more of this. Your conversation was like therapy for me. You had me thinking about things I've not only never explored in therapy but also hadn't admitted to myself. Thank you so much for that. Yes, I will further explore this in therapy.
Same. And I'm a therapist myself, but their candor around these topics and their insights have been extraordinarily helpful to me, despite being out for 10+ years and in my 40's. I feel like I'm STILL figuring it out.
Mak's reaction when Alayna brought up the idea of rocking a dress is my exact reaction to someone suggesting I wear one... felt it in my soul
Same
Alayna really understood the assignment. I loved this two-parter.
The ending of "We have way too much to talk about." Accurate. You guys are truly speaking from two very valid and absolutely lovely perspectives that are as Mak said in Alayna's vid "curious".
Wtf is Layna's journey if not learning to be curious about yourself? Follow the white rabbit!! It might lead you somewhere that feels like Neverland! I know that's how queerness felt to me after an entire childhood of repression.
These are the lesbian voices I find myself seeking in an online swamp. The ones that are humble in their pursuit of truth, but HONORING themselves.
🎖
Danke, loves.
i gotta say, this talk about the role of clothing when it comes to gender and sexuality expression was really insightful! especially as someone who is going through that phase of trying to find my style and what makes me feel best.
also, huge compliment to u Mak on ur follow-up questions to Alayna! i'm currently trying to improve my social skills lol so i've been paying attention to stuff like that lately and i feel like ur questions rlly provoked an interesting conversation :)
When Mak started saying you can wear a dress and still be masc, my mind immediately jumped to Jaune Arc in RWBY volume 2. If you know, you know. Respect the Chucks!
I relate to the detachment of clothes throughout being in high school. I would just throw on whatever and whenever my mom took me shopping and asked what jeans I wanted, I would just choose whatever fit me because nothing really interested me. But when I learned about alt fashion, it became something really important to me and I realized what my style really was (and that I didn't care about jeans because I never wanted to wear them in the first place).
This combo is the best💕
ahhh this video is the best! please make more videos this style. they’re so helpful and enjoyable to watch💗
you got it :)
Mak: "people know that you're queer"
Alayna's shirt, like literally: *STRAIGHT*
10:40 and 11:21
Straight *LOOKING* 😆
@@diegomangueira 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was soo suprised when neither of them mentioned that!!! What a missed opportunity, lmao. That shirt killed me.
LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!!! Plz do more videos together, the content is really helping me reflect (-:
I love that! I will do my best :)
@@Makingemi Alayna has been through so much and has had to reflect on so much to get where she is now that she seems to bring it out of others.
Maks face 19 minutes into it was so sweet, just over all I loved how they both listened and the video itself
Hey Mak! I have been out for a very LONG time. I love seeing this with you two. Takes me right back to 1980! Thank you! That was fun.
alaynaaa the black bangs bob looked so good tho
Heres an anecdote:
I used to struggle with my expression because I wanted to wear makeup (and paint my nails, i just dig color and artsy adornments) and I felt like it didnt "go" with the clothes I actually feel good in. I would force myself to dress femme because of this, and I was just always uncomfortable in my body. At the time I thought it was simple insecurity.
When I realized I was gay, i said okay, that happened, fuck it, I'll do what i want. Kept wearing fun artsy makeup and nail color whenever I wanted _and_ leaned right in to the clothes I actually like. I wear mostly mens clothes and it feels GREAT. Man, my confidence absolutely sky rocketed. I started liking myself for the first time in my mid 20s.. I had no idea that would or could happen but I am so glad it did.
Tl;dr: do what you want, it rules.
Eyy im so happy for you, just dressing the way you want can feel so liberating
@@mary_chase forreal. I had no idea how much clothes/presentation could affect the way one feels. I used to think that stuff was kind of shallow.. not in a bad way, just that it couldnt possibly mean _that_ much.
@@irradiated_woman8016 agreeed like if I'm feeling my outfit I'm so much more confident and happier, it's amazing how much confidence I gained after starting to dress more "like me"
the part where alayna talks about "not caring about clothes", geez she didn't have to come for me, love the talk!!!
On my gosh, I've just binge watched the last two videos with you two collabing and this one!! XDD Y'all are hilarious but also so mature and helpful!!! I could cry with how relatable and down to earth y'all are and I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate the time and effort it took to make these videos; as well as the confidence it took to share them!! THANK YOU x100!! Please stay well.
Straight man here, but i want to say. Thank you so much for this whole discussion about outfits. Male fashion is... well historically and socially and culturally quite limiting, and quite honestly, I think that this kind of discussions could be totally be quite the same for just straight men trying to find their own style and expression themselves.
Like no kidding, I think there is a lot we could benefit from talking fashion and discovering ourselves with queer people that use and "remix" masc and less masc styles. So thank you so much to both of you. Also goddamn I want to make a fashion thing for straight men talking "hot masc" with a lesbien now....
Hey Mak,
I am French and I literally forgot I was watching a video. I was just enjoying the conversation as a friend sitting next to you. It’s one of the most uninhibited and safe queer TH-cam video I watch for a long time. Thank you so much, and thank you to Alayna too because I discovered your channel thanks to her !
I can’t wait to see a new video of you two !!
I think Alayna looks amazing during her bang phase WHICH IS A SERIOUS COMPLIMENT
this video is so funny 😂 you guys need to make more content together! 💕
For what it’s worth, I think Mak would rock a simple dress. Nothing frilly, but a tee shirt dress or something like that? Totally. (No pressure though! One’s own comfort and expression is the most important!)
I'm pretty sure that just as you can you can dress moderately masc but have everybody read you as femme, you can dress moderately femme but have everyone get masc from you. I don't have any experience trying either, but I've definitely done my share of observing... so yeah, I reckon you could come across as masc in a T-shirt dress given masc accessories & attitude. Or femme in jeans & a lumberjack shirt...
I'm thinking that Mac could rock a tux ... way better than a dress ... like a proper James Bond full on Tux with cufflinks and maybe we could also throw in a Astin Martin too!!
That would be a mood 4sure!!
now I will be happy the rest of the day
I just want to say, I have seen a person who is more masculine in a dress who was really confident and still had their more masculine mannerisms and it was honestly really attractive. It might not be that way for you in a dress, but I just thought i'd throw that out there.
Y’all chemistry is something else no disrespect
I know I'm really late but I love this collaboration, because you two respectfully talk about such important topics people don't talk about. I also appreciate both of your respect to bisexuality, because as a bisexual I don't always find lesbians respecting bisexuality, even those the previously associated as bisexual make it appear that it really is just a faze. This collab is honestly super validating and brings up a lot of things for me to learn about while still being really fun
I could watch this as a regular thing. Awesome job!
This is my new favorite duo!
Just when I thought this couldn’t get better you brought Alayna into my life, you both rock together !!! Love the chemistry between you two and all that you share and discuss … priceless 👌🏼 keep this colabs coming girls!
Now I am just waiting for Ashley to react and roast the shit out of these pictures. It would be hilarious
I definitely relate to what Alayna said about feeling much more comfortable with wearing what they want as they come to terms and become comfortable with their body. I’m trans masc and when I was younger I fell down the trans med pipeline (I agreed with some stuff but disliked the ppl who were apart of the community. I’m older now and I’m very glad I didn’t do anything to hurt anyone.) I’m currently 6 months and 2 weeks and 6 days on t. Now that I no longer follow trans med ideology Im so much more happy and I present how I want to. Passing is important to me personally so I do dress more masculine but now I do things that I would’ve hated before (before transitioning and before changing my views). I was definitely a lot more depressed back then. I thought that trans masc people shouldn’t present femininely (to me this meant wearing makeup and skirts and dresses etcetera). So when I wore those things or even thought about it, it made me so dysphoric. It’s definitely something I could talk about for a long time. After I began to accept myself and changed my viewpoints (aka I’m not a trans med believer) I got so much more happy. Since I’m barely on t and I’m pre-top surgery (I do bind but I have a larger chest so I still don’t pass most of the time) there are things I do avoid since I live in the south (I try to go stealth in public) and I tend to get misgendered if I wear more feminine things. I started to wear makeup for winter percussion and although it does make me kinda dysphoric it reminds me of how much I hate and love it. I still paint my nails but I don’t wear skirts anymore. I really miss skirts although they give me dysphoria I want to be at a point in my transition where I can confidently wear skirts again.
ohhhhhhh that pretending everything is fine is relatable affff
This is the gay talk show we deserve
This video makes my day. Thank you Mak and Alayna for this hilarious and insightful video.😋 Much love, from a girl who is post-surgery and drowsy on painkillers
sending big love :)
For me my first haircut where I got short hair was 'the breakthrough' but then came the realization that I loved wearing my brother's and dad's clothes
This video is so important and much needed for all "baby gays". Thank you both for it ❤❤
I'm 26, turning 27, came out as bi half a year ago. It's honestly been a roller coaster, and figuring out even something as banal as clothing feels like a huge revelation. Both of you helped me immensly with figuring myself out and understanding some behaviours from my past, and for that I want to thank you from the depth of my heart ❤🏳️🌈
For the longest time ever I hated feminine clothing, made me feel weirded out, like it didn’t feel like me nor look good. And now I like it. Wearing dresses with the right cut just so I feel freaking gorgeous and also so that others can look at me because I know it can drive them crazy. It’s fun. But also that took me a while to get used to it, to start liking it, to let myself like those things because I always felt like I’ve been raised not to be “like the other girls”. And then I realized I just wanted to fit in and be like the other girls while also I didn’t because all I knew was being “different”. Wore my brothers clothes all the time, I didn’t care.
Messed up stuff and complicated I know.
Essentially, now, that so many years have passed and during those I’ve been looking for who I am, I’ve found myself liking clothing more, finding clothes I like and am confident in. It was a big step out of my comfort zone but gosh is it nice now.
I absolutely HATED shopping until I started to wear more masc-ish clothing! I was VERY hyper femme because my mom wanted me to be... But that's when she bought my clothes, and now that I have adult money I wear more masc clothing and LOVE shopping!
daaaamn I can relate SO MUCH to the clothing expression talk, always thought it was just me thinking about it this way🤯
I kind let out a "iiieeei" when i saw that the second part was out
I reeeally love when you make videos together!
I related so much when you talked about you felt more relaxed with your presentation when you validated your own queer identity. When i first came out i presented hyper-masculine for years. And evem tho that wasn’t like an act for the most part, there was a part of shutting down any femininity in order to put myself in a position of the “gayest” role. I don’t know how to explain it but yeah super relateable!!
I love this collab so much, you two have such a great energy together
Hair looks great like that.
watching this from my classroom
you girls have been so helpful, you have no idea.
I came out 11 years ago, but I've only started dressing masc since the start of the pandemic. I also never knew what to wear, my mom dressing me, dressing for the boys and then I came out and I still dressed the same. Felt safe. But I also feel/felt a lot of guilt of never daring, with it not being professional and 'I should know by now'. Feels good to try it, but still exciting
ayooo part two! love this collab, thank you mak
CONGRATULATIONS ON 100k SUBSCRIBERS🥳🎉👑✨
i absolutely adore these videos
I adore you 👀
I think Mak learned more about themself in this video than we learned about Alayna
This was really fun. Alayna I loved the bob, with and without bangs. Very chic.
My favorite duo on TH-cam right now ❤️✨
Such a beautiful and interesting coversation. Love how open and vulnerable both of you are.
Thank you for todays video it made me feel better after 2 anxiety attacks I had today🙂
I came from Alayna’s channel, and I could listen to you two talk all day 🤣🤣🤷🏼♀️ the way you bounce off of each other is hilarious 🤭
This video series was so much fun! You two vibe so well and it was interesting to hear about how you think about things and how differently(or not) you experienced them!
i've been waiting for this one
I look forward to finding more clothes that make me feel really confident!
I was following Alayna and I've never watched this collaboration for some reason, I'm glad I found it eventually and I really appreciate the feedback and the advice that came throughout the video. Also the whole interview made me relaxed and involved, almost like a group of friends gathered and started discussing interesting topics! Hopefully we can see more of you two!!!
Love the conversations and questions addressed 😘
That was a great collab! Thank you, guys, appreciate it
Rocking the bangs Alayna!!🌈
So on point about clothing! For the longest time I looked at what I liked and thought 'that's too cool for me'. Now I wear it and feel extremely cool 😂
The ad I got before the video was a trevor project ad :)
Im so glad that the ads are fitting
Can we have part 3-100 please? Thank u both for sharing thoughts and doubts it makes little gays feel fine with not being sure about everything
LOOOOOVE. 100% relatable, I came out last year (at 30). I was more of a tom boy when I was young, then once I got to middle school I started to dress a bit more fem (turns out when I thought I wanted the girls' clothes, I actually wanted them). When I was 15 I dyed hair firetruck red, then black, then bleached it poorly, then cut all the orange off up to my ears. My hair was still a gradient of platinum to rust lol. Had a couple boyfriends through high school, became then hyperfem. In my 20s, my "feeling normal" was transformed to "feeling good" thanks to a lot of alcohol. Now I'm still figuring out my style, but it's kind of in the middle :P
The ending got super deep! Love 😍
Thank you Mak and Alayna for making this video, hearing Alayna’s coming out journey (sorry Alayna I know you don’t like that word lol) helped validate some things for me.
I love that Alayna said she avoided queer media like the plague because I was the opposite... As a teen I used to watch aaaaall the lesbian TH-camrs (Stevie, Cammie, Shannon Beveridge, that couple - forgot their name, they broke up very long ago - where one is a vet and her girlfriend was British, Rose and Rosie...) and i watched the L word so many times...
And I always tried to either hide it or close the tab (the computer was in a common area in my family home) when someone was around and when my brother once asked me what I was watching I said 'oooh I watch this show because it's interesting, makes me understand a different experience since I'm not like that'... Basically acting like I was doing research just to hide the fact that I was hot for all of the characters in the L word 😂
You two are major collab goals 🤌🤌
You two Rock!!! Love your videos❤❤❤❤
I was always supper masculine and my perents would dress me feminine and I'd hate it as a child lots of tears and fight, until I could pick the cloths I wanted but it was still hard at family events not knowing how to dress, being embarrassed/ashamed for wanting to wear a shirt and tie. I accepted my sexuality early on but it took along time for me to accept my gender even though it was right there Infront of me all along. It was the shame I had atached ,internalised transfobia. 'it was natural for other people to be transgender but I couldn't be transgender! What would people think!? '....I'd just berry my identity and just identify as atracted to wemon and like to present as a guy.
Mind blowing at some point for me, thank you!
Honestly, a few days back I tried on some of my mom's dresses and I low-key liked it, I do calisthenics and looking at myself in the mirror and my big arms on a dress. I felt I looked kinda like Ronda Rousey when she's in award ceremonies lol
I know this character isn’t gay, but when you talked about not really picturing a person with more masculine mannerism in a dress it automatically made me think of Lettie from fast and furious 7 wearing an evening gown having a full on brawl with another woman (played by Ronda Rousey the mma fighter). Two woman whose characters aren’t hyper feminine and come across with more masculine tendencies looking absolutely stunning in fancy dresses. I love seeing y’all’s discussions and y’all interacting, this was a great video!!!
THANK YOU for mentioning how haircuts are kinda scary! I have really long hair, and have been wanting to cut it for a while, but have been feeling scared to :)
Okay so I just finished the video and the argument at the end really struck a chord in me… ‘cause if you think about it, you don’t usually see masc presenting woman and non-binary people with other masc, it’s usually masc femme or femme femme (but you can still se who could be the “top” in the relationship) which sucks because I really love “boys clothes” (even tho clothes don’t have a gender) and that is what I feel most comfortable wearing 90% of the time but there is this big part of me that is very much attracted to masc energy and I feel like every time they ask masc what is their type they answer femme. It’s a real conundrum, I want to dress masc and still feel like a woman who can attract other masc.
Or maybe that is just a me problem lol
That conversation got real good at the end! Especially about dressing femenine and not having femenine mannerisms. 👌 good stuff
The trust you have in that shirt... ^^
I think there are plenty of straight women who also don’t like overly feminine clothes. My two straight cousins who are close to me in age have a very similar aesthetic to me, though mine is slightly more androgynous most of the time (e.g., shoes, looser fitting clothes, though I used to be almost exactly like them in style). They have a sister who will wear all of the tops (certain kinds of sleeves and ruffles are a big no for us) and coats we absolutely will not. They’ll dress in lace for weddings (and I won’t-I’ll be the one dressed in black), but these are not flouncy dresses, no ruffles, no florals, all classic lines.