My future wife had learnt about my 55-year infatuation with the triangular engines and this tour was her initiation to that Deltic din, always at its best when leaving "The Cross", enhanced by the tunnels, the blue fog in the front carriage and the smell of burning oil. We were on that tour stood in the very same vestibule as yourself hanging out of the opposite window while you were filming, and oh! how magnificent it all was. Thank you Rob for posting this and allowing us to re-live the best bit of that memorable day.
I remember the deltic very well. Used to live next to the east coast mainline and always knew when a deltic was coming because I could hear screaming as she left the station 3 miles away.
....magic!! Window hanged behind No7 from Berwick to Waverley in 81', arrived with face covered in soot/oil/flies!!!...happy days! They will never be beaten.
My dad was a BR TCS at Tonbidge in Kent , I have great memories of Deltics and the thunderous noise they made. I loved being in them back in the 70’s. I’m 53 now…. Miss you dad.
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The noise, reminds me of school summer holidays going from Doncaster to Newcastle to see relatives in the early sixties. Lovely green loco with maroon Mk1 stock with coach vent widows open on a hot day, you could hear the engine din halfway down the train. Halcyon days. Then came corporate blue everything..... ugh! Sorry you blue era chaps but those deep sides of the Deltic, all blue without a lower lighter colour band, to my eyes turned a racehorse into a cart horse. As to some of today's TOC liveries, no comment!
I would take the east coast line regularly in the 1980's from York station. A deltic in York station (with the great echo) was a sound to behold, and 2 of them could stir your coffee for you.
I can remember 1981 .A Deltic went past our house about 10yards from Aberdeen- Kings cross main line 25miles south of Aberdeen.What a sound .never forgotten.
Ive noticed lately that generations younger than me choose to slag Deltics off having never experienced them in BR days.Well I have happy childhood memories of them into teenage years, i.e. I was there.Dont judge what you dont know or what you never experienced I say!
I know you commented 3 years ago, but; I don't much care for the Deltics myself but the big EEs like the class 37s or 40s make me hard enough to cut diamonds!
For example listening to 47 men slagging off 50s and vice versa and 37 men slagging off 47s and vice versa for decades has become extemely tiresome to me.You like or dislike a certain type, who really cares, more so when they go on ,and on, and on about it for years,even decades.Getting old is mandatory, growing up is not in some cases it seems.
I spent my childhood out in the sticks just south of Donny. The ECML was visible perhaps a mile and half away. The eery rising roar as the Deltics powered up heading south out of Donny station was very clearly audible. The 5 minutes or so it took for the train to reach and pass by was an aural fantasy. Many a night I laid there in my bed listening to the tone of the wail change as it began to recede into the southern night. It was a long drawn symphony of slowly rising euphonious noise. You didn't need to see these beasts. They were, and are, the stuff of legend. They could shift too!
As always these fine engineered locos rarely fail to impress, ahead of their time and sound awesome when they come on song! Pity it was raining in the video but the sound makes up for this! Long may they reign for all to savour the experience.👍
Memories of some great days, including a barmy one when I managed (in service days) to get behind two Deltics, a Western, and a 73 on the same day... Totally stupidity but fun!!!
Absolutely magic video - I had my childhood dream come true that day and took my Dad too - he got me a cab ride on 55019 back when I was 13 (a moment...) - but out of the Cross and on full chat: utter heaven. There is no sound like it in the world. Thanks to all at Spitfire & the RSG crew, especially Martin Walker - and please let's do it all again!
Lovely, great memories, 1981 we used to open the windows in the first coach to get the smoke in and get rid of the ordinary passengers lol. Train guard used to apeshit. Hanging out of the windows "my lords" ...... Great place to be the cross in that last year. Will never ever forget the last night.
Awesome Music To The Ears Conversant to this sound from Leeds cabbing in the mid 70's and getting pulled around the north east and Scotland by these beautiful majestic Engines Napier Deltic Bless you and all who rail and sail with Deltic
1960/62 when spotting, marvelled at the vision of this huge blue diesel locomotive with golden chevrons on the front.suddenly appearing from under the road bridge ( Ayres Garage ) by Mossley Hill Station on the up nr 3 line heading towards Liverpool.. Lime Street presumably from Newton le Willows. It would have passed under the Penny Lane bridge ( 🎶) and onto Edge Hill ( George Stephenson ) The livery of blue and chevrons ( similar to the old Rugby League shirt chevrons ') was classic stuff, the BR Green on Green was very stylish, with a small panel - not sure its nowadays livery properly represents this wonderful locomotive. There were 4 lines to Ditton Junction from Livrrpool Lime Stree t. The Red Rose Express Train to London came down that straight line at full 4-6-2 power, ( City, Duchess, Jub) thru Mossley Hill, West Allerton and on. Don't know if the Deltics ever took over.
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Yes me too, as you can see from the video it got a little smoky at times, by the time we reached the old Finsbury Part depot site I had had enough. She was really picking up speed then and the rain and wind were making it hard to keep the camera still. I haven't done that since I was a kid!
With 3300 hp under the mid section produced from two Napier Deltic Two Stroke Opposed Diesel Engines and with a top speed of over 100 mph... Lovely Jubbly... However I used to drive the 43's out of Kings X up the ECML... With 4500 hp under the bonnet ( 2250 hp ) one up front and one up the botty there was plenty of power on tap... Pulling out of the station on notch five with the Paxman Valenta turbo's screaming their little heads off and clouds of exhaust smoke ( sorry Greta Thunberg ) was something to behold with more excitement to enjoy... 125 mph here we come although they would top 148 mph... Now there is food for thought but as I did not fancy tea and biscuits with the Boss well need I say more..
As a kid going home at weekends KX to Pboro, used to mess up dozens of clean shirts due to hanging out of the window, face in the wind and covered in spitting oil. The dim cab lights were my weakness lol.
That is one sexy beast. Don't you just love the clunk of chunky wheels over the points. If only they could come back without the clag, we could get rid of the bland rubbish we have today... sigh.
I read somewhere that replacement parts were very expensive so as a result they received only basic maintenance. Government cuts to british rail in the 80s did not help either, more or less sealed their fate.
One engine is on full whack between Gasworks and Copenhagen. The other with the exhaust on the camera side winds up in the tunnel and both are screaming as she exits.
I'm of the age group just about to miss Deltics in favour of the hallowed HSTs, and as much as the Deltic generation is loyal to its racehorses, I am loyal to my Valenta powered "trams" as many call them. I wonder if I could ask if this is typical for the sort of KX departure of a Deltic as it seemed a little slow to me. I know a HST would beat it, but then it had nearly 20 years and having 2 Type Four Locomotives in the rake, so I don't mean to disrespect the Deltic, but from the few journeys I remember they seemed a fair bit faster than that. Is it a preservation thing or was it only running on one engine??? For me, the ECML will always be associatied with HSTs, much as you will associate it with Deltics and your Dads with A4s and A1s. Sadly, we've all lost out now as it's Japanese imprted rail buses.
Hi there my real Name is Mr Cannadine T. Boxill-Harris, I have another interesting idea for most of us Class 507, Class 508, Class 313, and Class 314 and that also includes those interesting Class 315 Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Train fans out there, rather than scrapping most of those Class 507, Class 508, Class 313's Class 314 including the Class 315's maybe you guys can convert them. Including rebuilding most of the brand new refurbishment into the Volvo TD102KF Engine, Gardner 6LXCT Engine, Leyland TL11 Engine, Volvo B10M Engine, Leyland 510 Engine, Gardner 6LXB Engine, Gardner LG1200 Engine, Gardner 8LXB Engine, Class 507’s Class 313's, Class 314's and the Class 315's with a Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearboxes and converting and that will also be including building most of them into a Two Carriages and Three Carriages per units of the Class 507’s Class 313’s, Class 508’s Class 314's and that is including those Class 315 Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission for all of us Class 314 and Class 315 Diesel Train fans out there PLEASE. Are you still going to do this interesting type of Project? Class 507, Class 313, and Class 314 will be rebuilding the brand new Class 315 Diesel Train fans out there Pretty Please?
Finally I've found a good video with a good recording of the engines! :), well upto ~4mins anyway ;). (Btw you're not the RW who works in Slyfield are you?)
@@waynedixon1253 Was on a tour from Didcot to York about 10 years ago behind RSG and we hit 107.4 down Stoke Bank on the return. We then had signal failure on the North London Line and had to return via WCML and Coventry to Didcot. Lots of extra mileage, great! Didn't get back to Didcot until nearly 2 am!
Nice noise, always made my spine tingle when they hurtled through Retford full bore, shame about the obligatory 20 hangers on in the back cab whenever this engine ran creating a sea of 🍊 🟧 📙
Very nautical sounding... they are effectively derated torpedo boat engines, aren't they? On 'combat duty', they had a very short life expectancy at double the output! Bet that sounded sublime.
The trouble is the people today who have a go and these twin engine leviathans have no.clue what it takes to power electric trains where does the power come from not all nuclear i assure you lol
My future wife had learnt about my 55-year infatuation with the triangular engines and this tour was her initiation to that Deltic din, always at its best when leaving "The Cross", enhanced by the tunnels, the blue fog in the front carriage and the smell of burning oil. We were on that tour stood in the very same vestibule as yourself hanging out of the opposite window while you were filming, and oh! how magnificent it all was. Thank you Rob for posting this and allowing us to re-live the best bit of that memorable day.
And don't forget getting a face full muck from the exhaust. Amazing how they sound when they pull away . New school has nothing on old school.
I was on the 313 going the other way. Caught me totally by surprise when it came out of Gasworks tunnel.
Absolutely brilliant I can just hear the power of the detic picking up speed amazing 😊😊 great video I really enjoyed it thank you
I remember the deltic very well. Used to live next to the east coast mainline and always knew when a deltic was coming because I could hear screaming as she left the station 3 miles away.
....magic!! Window hanged behind No7 from Berwick to Waverley in 81', arrived with face covered in soot/oil/flies!!!...happy days! They will never be beaten.
Imagine being in a passenger cab and forgetting to close a window 🤣
That must have been close to biblical......
Hellfire traction! Fantastic. Nothing else on rails smoked, smelled or sounded like these beasts.
I remember looking at this exact same view going from Kings X to York in about 1980. Nothing like that Deltic sound.
My dad was a BR TCS at Tonbidge in Kent , I have great memories of Deltics and the thunderous noise they made. I loved being in them back in the 70’s. I’m 53 now…. Miss you dad.
Brilliant loco,the Deltics where a class act they are supreme irrespective of what other people may think.
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The noise, reminds me of school summer holidays going from Doncaster to Newcastle to see relatives in the early sixties. Lovely green loco with maroon Mk1 stock with coach vent widows open on a hot day, you could hear the engine din halfway down the train. Halcyon days. Then came corporate blue everything..... ugh! Sorry you blue era chaps but those deep sides of the Deltic, all blue without a lower lighter colour band, to my eyes turned a racehorse into a cart horse. As to some of today's TOC liveries, no comment!
Awesome video, beautiful sound, brilliant point of view!
I would take the east coast line regularly in the 1980's from York station. A deltic in York station (with the great echo) was a sound to behold, and 2 of them could stir your coffee for you.
I can remember 1981 .A Deltic went past our house about 10yards from Aberdeen- Kings cross main line 25miles south of Aberdeen.What a sound .never forgotten.
Everybody loves a Deltic! Wonderful music.
3000hp of fury, grunt and fabulous British design 👌🏻 👏🏻 👍🏻
brill footage mate-back to the 70s for me never forget the sheer size and power of these locos.
Ive noticed lately that generations younger than me choose to slag Deltics off having never experienced them in BR days.Well I have happy childhood memories of them into teenage years, i.e. I was there.Dont judge what you dont know or what you never experienced I say!
I know you commented 3 years ago, but; I don't much care for the Deltics myself but the big EEs like the class 37s or 40s make me hard enough to cut diamonds!
I dunno, any big diesel, or a good two stroker gets me going
Each one to their own, I have never had any hang ups about peoples preferences.I just wish some would stop going on about it, LOL.
For example listening to 47 men slagging off 50s and vice versa and 37 men slagging off 47s and vice versa for decades has become extemely tiresome to me.You like or dislike a certain type, who really cares, more so when they go on ,and on, and on about it for years,even decades.Getting old is mandatory, growing up is not in some cases it seems.
I spent my childhood out in the sticks just south of Donny. The ECML was visible perhaps a mile and half away. The eery rising roar as the Deltics powered up heading south out of Donny station was very clearly audible. The 5 minutes or so it took for the train to reach and pass by was an aural fantasy. Many a night I laid there in my bed listening to the tone of the wail change as it began to recede into the southern night. It was a long drawn symphony of slowly rising euphonious noise. You didn't need to see these beasts. They were, and are, the stuff of legend. They could shift too!
As always these fine engineered locos rarely fail to impress, ahead of their time and sound awesome when they come on song!
Pity it was raining in the video but the sound makes up for this!
Long may they reign for all to savour the experience.👍
Deltics would still reign supreme over todays crappy locos! LISTEN TO THAT NAPER MUSIC!🇬🇧👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 SUPERB!
Memories of some great days, including a barmy one when I managed (in service days) to get behind two Deltics, a Western, and a 73 on the same day... Totally stupidity but fun!!!
Could watch this all day :D
Absolutely magic video - I had my childhood dream come true that day and took my Dad too - he got me a cab ride on 55019 back when I was 13 (a moment...) - but out of the Cross and on full chat: utter heaven. There is no sound like it in the world. Thanks to all at Spitfire & the RSG crew, especially Martin Walker - and please let's do it all again!
That engine has the most amazing rumble & it reminds me of the freight trains of yesteryear 🇬🇧👏
Lovely, great memories, 1981 we used to open the windows in the first coach to get the smoke in and get rid of the ordinary passengers lol. Train guard used to apeshit.
Hanging out of the windows "my lords" ......
Great place to be the cross in that last year.
Will never ever forget the last night.
Awesome Music To The Ears
Conversant to this sound from Leeds cabbing in the mid 70's and getting pulled around the north east and Scotland by these beautiful majestic Engines Napier Deltic Bless you and all who rail and sail with Deltic
Noise wise the Deltics were and are a clear winner but I'm pleased to say that after all this time the Class 68 is almost as good.
Used to see these at Edinburgh Waverley..could also bear them from where I was living in Edinburgh if the wind in right direction
1960/62 when spotting, marvelled at the vision of this huge blue diesel locomotive with golden chevrons on the front.suddenly appearing from under the road bridge ( Ayres Garage ) by Mossley Hill Station on the up nr 3 line heading towards Liverpool.. Lime Street presumably from Newton le Willows. It would have passed under the Penny Lane bridge ( 🎶) and onto Edge Hill ( George Stephenson )
The livery of blue and chevrons ( similar to the old Rugby League shirt chevrons ') was classic stuff, the BR Green on Green was very stylish, with a small panel - not sure its nowadays livery properly represents this wonderful locomotive.
There were 4 lines to Ditton Junction from Livrrpool Lime Stree t. The Red Rose Express Train to London came down that straight line at full 4-6-2 power, ( City, Duchess, Jub) thru Mossley Hill, West Allerton and on. Don't know if the Deltics ever took over.
Loved them since i could go & watch them come thru lucker Northumberland . Used to scare the life out of me but had to watch them. Brilliant.
Enjoyed this? Type in 'Deltic after Dark: Napier acoustic magic at 100mph'. Sit back and experience a spine-tingling expectancy of what is about to emerge. Once heard, never forgotten.
I love the smell of Deltic diesel in the morning!
As someone who vaguely remembers the item on the ITV News at Ten,they were legendary trains. Pity more weren't built......
Yes me too, as you can see from the video it got a little smoky at times, by the time we reached the old Finsbury Part depot site I had had enough. She was really picking up speed then and the rain and wind were making it hard to keep the camera still. I haven't done that since I was a kid!
Absolutely superb! Thank you.
With 3300 hp under the mid section produced from two Napier Deltic Two Stroke Opposed Diesel Engines and with a top speed of over 100 mph... Lovely Jubbly... However I used to drive the 43's out of Kings X up the ECML... With 4500 hp under the bonnet ( 2250 hp ) one up front and one up the botty there was plenty of power on tap... Pulling out of the station on notch five with the Paxman Valenta turbo's screaming their little heads off and clouds of exhaust smoke ( sorry Greta Thunberg ) was something to behold with more excitement to enjoy... 125 mph here we come although they would top 148 mph... Now there is food for thought but as I did not fancy tea and biscuits with the Boss well need I say more..
Mesmerising :) :) you deseeve an award for this presentation :):)
Great footage. Thank you for posting. Such a unique sound.
Used to see these in the 70's when i was spotting.
The best Deltic footage.
Brilliant - next best thing to a cab ride. Actually, better because you get the full sound and clag!
Superb mate, Brilliant.
The sound of the engins from 2.56 is fantastic
That’s an amazing sound !!
Odd, but reminds me of the VW vr6 and W8 engines…the offbeat throb
As a kid going home at weekends KX to Pboro, used to mess up dozens of clean shirts due to hanging out of the window, face in the wind and covered in spitting oil. The dim cab lights were my weakness lol.
Awesome footage...great window hanging skills bud.
Great video rob I really enjoyed it mate awesome
Great footage dad I remember this I was 2
That is one sexy beast. Don't you just love the clunk of chunky wheels over the points. If only they could come back without the clag, we could get rid of the bland rubbish we have today... sigh.
If they were to have the high pressure injection system and the controlling sensors it would not have had the filthy black smoke and be a lot better..
I like it can really listen to her sing
Thanks rob for that vid its the best sound ever
onie wham there's more of it
I'm his son Ben walker
every one came out of the tunnel with a lung infection ?.
i was secondman in 79/80 at KX... .the deltics were getting rather tired..
I read somewhere that replacement parts were very expensive so as a result they received only basic maintenance. Government cuts to british rail in the 80s did not help either, more or less sealed their fate.
The tunnel nick name was the Drain.
Remember them well at Top Shed in the late 70s
One engine only? I don't hear the second engine spooling up?
One engine is on full whack between Gasworks and Copenhagen. The other with the exhaust on the camera side winds up in the tunnel and both are screaming as she exits.
All those revs for so long, it should have finished up at 350mph ???
What's that airship doing laying on a bridge across the line?!
great bashers footage of RSG out on the mainline... cheers ;-)
Great vid
I'm of the age group just about to miss Deltics in favour of the hallowed HSTs, and as much as the Deltic generation is loyal to its racehorses, I am loyal to my Valenta powered "trams" as many call them.
I wonder if I could ask if this is typical for the sort of KX departure of a Deltic as it seemed a little slow to me. I know a HST would beat it, but then it had nearly 20 years and having 2 Type Four Locomotives in the rake, so I don't mean to disrespect the Deltic, but from the few journeys I remember they seemed a fair bit faster than that. Is it a preservation thing or was it only running on one engine???
For me, the ECML will always be associatied with HSTs, much as you will associate it with Deltics and your Dads with A4s and A1s. Sadly, we've all lost out now as it's Japanese imprted rail buses.
When is the next Deltic tour?
Hi there my real Name is Mr Cannadine T. Boxill-Harris, I have another interesting idea for most of us Class 507, Class 508, Class 313, and Class 314 and that also includes those interesting Class 315 Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Train fans out there, rather than scrapping most of those Class 507, Class 508, Class 313's Class 314 including the Class 315's maybe you guys can convert them. Including rebuilding most of the brand new refurbishment into the Volvo TD102KF Engine, Gardner 6LXCT Engine, Leyland TL11 Engine, Volvo B10M Engine, Leyland 510 Engine, Gardner 6LXB Engine, Gardner LG1200 Engine, Gardner 8LXB Engine, Class 507’s Class 313's, Class 314's and the Class 315's with a Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearboxes and converting and that will also be including building most of them into a Two Carriages and Three Carriages per units of the Class 507’s Class 313’s, Class 508’s Class 314's and that is including those Class 315 Very Very Loud 7 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission for all of us Class 314 and Class 315 Diesel Train fans out there PLEASE. Are you still going to do this interesting type of Project? Class 507, Class 313, and Class 314 will be rebuilding the brand new Class 315 Diesel Train fans out there Pretty Please?
I run the Duke of Wellington's Regiment on my 6 x 4.5 layout
Finally I've found a good video with a good recording of the engines! :), well upto ~4mins anyway ;). (Btw you're not the RW who works in Slyfield are you?)
Looks impressive- sounds like a washing machine
Yea, a twin Napier 3300 horse power washer!!!
Napier engine, originally used on naval boats.
Magic at its best, 22 mainline and powering on....
Became really exciting after the first tunnel. What maximum speeds would the restored Deltics be operating at?
100 m.p.h.,Shahed.
100+
I'm sure I read somewhere of 1 hitting 107
@@waynedixon1253 Was on a tour from Didcot to York about 10 years ago behind RSG and we hit 107.4 down Stoke Bank on the return. We then had signal failure on the North London Line and had to return via WCML and Coventry to Didcot. Lots of extra mileage, great! Didn't get back to Didcot until nearly 2 am!
Thanks@@DaveDeltic
@@DaveDeltic Thanks
oooaaah, that be some climb....
fucking Hell what a monster of a loco
Nice noise, always made my spine tingle when they hurtled through Retford full bore, shame about the obligatory 20 hangers on in the back cab whenever this engine ran creating a sea of 🍊 🟧 📙
brilliant vid, well done :)
Interesting footage - where were you filming from?
Go pro cuz I'm his son
How can I say this I'm 49 and been married 4 times when I see and hear a deltic I can only confirm that it is indeed better than sex! Deltics forever!
I can only watch this by assuming the video was not made by someone holding the camera or, shudder the thought, actually sticking head out a window.
sweet deltic thrash harmony good sound in deed
great catch. check mine out too.
Remember them working out of kings cross.
Oops did someone forget to remove the flashing tail light between the loco and coaching stock - naughty naughty.
It's the camera. Red light to show that it's recording.
Very nautical sounding... they are effectively derated torpedo boat engines, aren't they? On 'combat duty', they had a very short life expectancy at double the output! Bet that sounded sublime.
with2ells they ran so hot that the oil seals leaked ran over the engine and egnited this one reason they took them out of wooden minesweepers
The thrash. My Lordz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow check out 4:01- 4:13 fire shooting out
aw, man. What a noise!
Antony browne - who do younger generation love ? only got 47s, 37s (yawn) and possibly HST ! even their quieter than before
cool
Ooft! ;)
Great vid & awesome sounds, we were at the back Northbound but got some good footage Soutbound, check my channel out, its a sub for me.
The trouble is the people today who have a go and these twin engine leviathans have no.clue what it takes to power electric trains where does the power come from not all nuclear i assure you lol