Lucas Horizontal Boring Mill: Installing Belts and Getting Under Power
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- Lucas Horizontal Boring Mill: Installing Belts and Getting Under Power
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4:02 .. Just an added note for any beginners online, the other job of interlock is best described as, if the power goes out for any reason, when it comes back on again, the motor will not restart, ... until someone pushes the go button .. very nice safety feature!!
Also known as 3 wire control.
The great thing about these old machines, is that they'll outlast most of the modern junk and still be here and usable in another 100 years, because of people like you keeping them going.
I’m not sure you are totally correct when talking about modern junk. If these old machines were so much better, why aren’t there a lot more being used still. Answer I guess is, too slow and too expensive. Modern machines can produce a wider range of products straight from CAD, into CAD/CAM cutting time and expense. All these machines have their place and time. Regards
Modern junk 🤣🤣🤣
I’m a fan of old machines, ran many of them including a 1934 G&L horizontal boring mill. But that machine isn’t going to make you any money in todays world like the “Modern junk” will.
@@justinl.3587 I agree with you 100%, but to be fair, the original comment set a very low bar when they said the old iron will still be "usable" in 100 years. He will say he didn't mean in a commercial setting, or that using it will be profitable. In that case, I agree with him, as computers are more unlikely to work in 100 years.
@@petergregory5286 yea theres no comparison that a new machine that can do basically anything can outperform this old timer but that's not the point. This cast iron beauty will always work as intended and it's going to always be desirable. New equipment reaches obsolescence much faster and is rarely worth preserving
I think it is great to see another antique machine up and running!
Hello Keith from South Wales UK.
"Nuances of running this machine"....Keith, that machine didn't even stop for a coffee at nuanced. It went full steam ahead right into complicated!! Amazing to see a 100 year old machine!
Optical comparator....."If you don't know what it is you probably don't need it"!!
Excellent!! Down home truth.
I like it "I went to the store and got 2 more belts".
I used to be able to do that in the UK. In particular we used a company called BSL, our local branch seemed to have everything we needed, they knew what we wanted and used and kept it on the shelf. More than once I got the on call staff out at 2 or 3 in the morning, for a bearing or seal. They got taken over and are now called Brammer, the acountants took over; the local branches closed, closest one is 20 miles away, if you ring them up for something, "yes we have it in stock", but that turns out to be 150 miles away at a central warehouse. As much use as a chocolate teapot. Its all order online for next day delivery now, brilliant, except I have a line that costs £5,000 an hour in lost production stood for 12 hours. I've had to rob bearings off another working (but cheaper line) to keep the expensive one going. Glad I've retired from all that.
Watching this machine come to life has been one of the best parts of my day.
I like the Philmont Scout Ranch belt (shown between 19 and 20 minutes).
That is an amazing machine. Looking forward to watching you operate it.
What a cool machine!
I'm not a machinist but I'm amazed by these all machines and I'm super glad there are people out there like Keith who restore them and extend their lives by another 100 years! Keep up the great work Keith!
An apprentice would fill all oil cups everyday when that machine was used. They had great jobs in there first years. Great machine glad you saved her.
"Good quality American machine" maybe we should think about that. Love what you do !!!
You have the best toys. Be safe and make a belt guard. Take care Keith.
That new mic you're using now might be cheaper, but it kinda sucks. it sounds fine as long as you are talking toward it, but when you turn your head to the right, the voice volume really tapers off.
The audio in this video is terrible.
I came here to say this. It is distracting when the volume changes depending on the direction of his head.
Having your two day belt experience in one video is satisfying enough. Thanks for going under power and congrats for the plan to make it more precise.
Boring mills are amazing machines. I operated them for thirty years. Such fond memories they bring me when I see one being used. Nice work Keith and please keep the great videos coming our way on TH-cam. Peace VF
This machine appears to pat its head and rub its tummy at the same time. Thanks for the video. Always a treat.
Hours of endless enjoyment - thank you Keith.
So grateful for being able to watch and learn. Thank you for sharing your projects and knowledge.
Thanks for the great videos Keith!!!!
Thanks for sharing! Great run.
Cool machine! Looking forward to seeing more of it!
Happy to see this project under way.
Good to see it powered up! Looking forward to future videos..
Well done. Another machine functional.
Awesome, thanks for the update!👍
Great to see these older machines being brought back. Great stuff!
Hi Keith from the UK
It is good seeing another old machine back in business.
Nice old mill. I ran a 60's vintage Lucas 4" bar back in the mid-70s in a Die Cast Mold maker facility. Milled insert pockets in mold bases, some being 14" deep, and 20w x 36 lg. One pocket had 6000 lbs of steel taken out of it. Had to sharpen the sides of the 6" dia cutters about once a day using the tool and cutter grinder setup next to the Lucas.
Good video!
Really looking forward to you making your first chips. Keep the videos rolling.
Excellent Kieth...a very good teacher!
I have been meaning to ask a question about Babbitt bearings . I have heard about White Metal Bearings that used to be used in car engines . Is Babbitt the same thing . It may be we just have a different name here in the UK . Love your work , people like you are so precious these days .
yes, babbitt and white metal bearings are indeed the same.
Congratulations! I look forward to seeing the next steps on the restoration. What a beast…
Looking forward to seeing the machine making some parts.
What a lovely machine!
Thanks for sharing!
What a beauty of an old machine. Good job it getting it back up and running.
I can't wait to see this thing in action.
Nice to see an old precision machine back up and running. That will be a lot of fun getting to know what it can do. Thanks for the video.
SU Viscosity at 210 of 73 translates to a SUS at 100 of 600. According to the Van Norman chart that translates to about a 40 weight gearbox oil.
GEARBOX OIL: Mobil DTE Heavy Medium.
I don't pretend to know or understand what I wrote above. I included it to say that machines made even as late as the 1960s will list recommended lubricants in such a manner that they appear to be unavailable. Yet, Keith is not the only guy in the know to come to the same exact conclusion! Keith, you are my favorite professor!
Great video Keith, keep'um coming..
Looking forward to seeing this one working.
Been looking forward to this series for awhile now just add onto my shop so I can find me one
This is a wonderful big toy for every big boy! I love it! Thanks for showing!
Greetings from Dresden (Germany)!
Amazing machine
Good show Mr. Rucker.
Sent you an email about the comparator- great to see this old machine run.
Hey Keith!
Just a little tidbit from over 30+ years working with multi-groove belt driven equipment...IF at all possible, start with the belt on the smallest sheave on the drive and "walk" the belts onto the larger sheave. It will make life a LOT easier & fewer pinched fingers!
Ken
Thanks for sharing 👍
Keith, thanks for getting back to work on this huge machine. Watching you restore a machine of this vintage is an education that very few of us would ever get otherwise. I believe I saw some nice bronze brazing on a part near the end of the video. Looking forward to watching this big boy do some heavy boring.
Yes, I spotted that repair too!
Nice that the boring mill has a plug on a cord. That makes it portable.
nice to hear the gears meshing
What a great measuring microscope. I have not seen it for years
Keith that is one big machine love the rebuild can't weight to see it in action
Good stuff as usual.
5:11 I used the exact same model of comparator =10,000 times :) .. If I had the cash I'd buy it just to have one again :) Some measurements cannot be done any other way! .. These things do not get old .. it is a accurate as the day it was made!
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.👍👀
An excellent old machine, Keith! I'm pleased to see it in good, appreciative hands. When you have the time (!?) I'd enjoy seeing a tutorial on the machine's conitrols and operation. Keep up the great work!
Yes you need to re-familiarize yourself with the machine and show us how to make it work good job Keith thanks for sharing
I can't wait to see it make chips
What a great machine! All kinds of levers and twirling shafts, Lunkenheimer-style oilers, and lots of surfaces for future scraping! You could bore a cannon on that big bad boy!
Beautiful machine I can’t wait to see it making some chips
Lots of levers to learn how to run this machine. Will watch with interest as you rebuild the spindle.
Impressive action. With the head up, that 4 spoke car-wheel-wrench adjustment wheel is just waiting for a head or shoulder to come in range!
What a labor of love....
Thanks again
Well done Keith, great to see the boring mill working, For your safety I hope that you're going to fit a belt guard - rather essential I think. Best wishes.
Keith, I bought some lubers similar to the ones on this machine, but they have a flip top cap on them. They came on stationary air compressors made in Germany.
I use a Lucas 31 at the Southern California Railway Museum machine shop. It's a beautiful machine. The one we have has never been used for production machining. It's been in a tool room it's whole life. Instead of belts ours uses a heavy duty drive chain. We have to adjust it now and then.
Thank You for the great videos!!!
good resurrection keith
HBM's are a very handy machine tool and are a must for big line boring or facing jobs.
A bit of history: The idea for welding manipulators originates from the HBM, and the company I used to rep for in St. Louis built some large ones, up to a twenty-foot plus boom lift and stroke for the naval yards. They were used to weld submarine pressure hulls, etc.
Can’t wait to see that machine work. Never seen one before.
Lots of Horizontal Boring Mill action on my channel. Heck Keith even has a video on his channel of using my HBM to machine the cylinder bores in the block on the steam stoker engine.
@@bcbloc02 yeah, I watch your channel all the time, every video. But somehow I didn’t recognize your machine when looking at Keith’s. I’ll pay closer attention:-)
Thanks.
Wow, that's a lot of oilers! Seems like a one-shot lubricator would be a nice addition
We only saw half of them - there was a load more on the upper part he lowered too !
Great content!!
When we installed the taper lock pulley that way, we always installed the removal hardware at the same time because you may not have enough room to insert long enough hardware to push the pulley off the tapered bushing. Looks like in your case you'll have enough room.... Nice work!
Volume is all over the place Kieth. Just so you know 👍
I ran a #42 Lucas boring mill in my apprenticeship, nearly the same at the one portrayed in the video, it was WW-2 vintage and badly worn out, but the main thing I did not like was the interlocks on all the feed levers, done so that only one feed could be engaged at a time and the fact that one never knew for sure what direction it was going to feed when engaged; I later went on to run the two G&L 350T boring mills in the same shop, on them, the feed handles were moved in the direction desired to feed and the feed/rapid travel lever moved as desired, feed and rapid travel being in the same direction, unlike the Lucas where they are in opposite directions, the G&L machines are the best of all for simplicity of controls.
I've got the model earlier than that, the 21 in my garage. Cool machine nice size
Most excellent.
Love your videos, Keith! Your old microphone was a lot less sensitive to your head position, as I'm sure other people have noted...the volume wavers quite a bit as you turn your head. I'm not complaining, just giving some feedback since you changed out a couple episodes ago. Keep up the good work!
Love it
Like the motor pulley system
What a mechanical marvel. It's has many levers to move so I guess there I going to a learning curve. Good luck with this machine. No software needed. Nice!
From MacGyver and co.😎
Really a beautiful machine visually. I love the forest of drip oilers All next to each other. I wonder why they did not have a common oil reservoir?
The bolts go through the sheave into the threaded part on the taper lock. Makes accessing the bolts much easier.
I recently restored a South Bend 13" lathe and tried to find a pair of matched belts. I didn't find them and ended up just buying two belts from the same company at the same time. My guess was exactly what you said - modern belts are made to tight enough tolerances that they are "matched" by default. It was great to hear your comments on the issue because I have occasionally wondered if I did the right thing there. The lathe runs smoothly, so I guess it's fine.
I'm watching this and chuckling to myself..."I wonder if they could fit just ONE MORE oil cup"...I get it, but it just looks funny....LOL....yep, simple things...
do not forget the setscrew for the QD bushing keyway.
FYI, It's easier to start the screws attaching the tapered bushing to the drive pulley prior to sliding it on, saving your knuckles. I have the same exact tapered bushing for my 2x72 grinder drive wheel.
When the clutch is engaged the main pulley moves changing the belt alignment. You appeared to align the belt for the idle position.
I have to share a great trick for lubing. Mix your DTE about 75/25 with automatic transmission fluid. Two solid reasons: 1. it has some detergent to control grunge buildup; 2. it's RED! Makes it very easy to quickly confirm you've got lube where you want it. No downsides. It is gear lube after all and has extreme-pressure properties. I got this from my machine rebuilder who does real high_end work. His big grinder has a work envelope of 17 x 8 x 6 FEET.
What a huge machine, it is like it came out of some science fiction movie.
Morse QD hubs. Dodge Taper Locks work well too! And use matched belts (the match numbers are on them). We also sold a lot of multi groove belts too. One belt to rule them all! ;)
ETA: Any particular reason you put the hub toward the motor instead of on the outside? We always designed systems (and our customers did too) with the hub outside to make it easier to get to. Particularly if there were other things around it that got in the way.
Bravo
That's a very job specific machine. I have an Hendey engine lathe that I have been using for years. That was made on either side of 1900. It has an open flat leather drive belt that runs it. Also has sleeve bearings not ball bearings. I can hit my number.
Audio consistency might be improved with different placement of your lavalier mic.
Way cool!