Rome was not remastered in a day. All Romes lead to remasters. Romegalul: Remastered. So many possibilities.. Do you have experience with remasters of your favourite games? Leave a comment describing how it went for you, and if you think remasters are good or bad. I'm curious. Also here's my initial statement on this Remaster, I recommend reading that before watching the video: www.reddit.com/r/Volound/comments/mdmuvz/my_position_on_this_rome_total_war_remaster/ And here's the prize pool for the upcoming tourney I shouted out at the end: gofund.me/2a707235 And here's where I'll hopefully be uploading highlights of the best matches, including the finals: th-cam.com/users/VoloundExpounds
ROMEGALUL Also should have given the remaster out for free to everyone who owns Rome 1. It's not a remake so not a new game. Limited time 50% off for owners of the original my arse.
@@thattotalwarguy7911 The question is, WHAT work did they put in? They nabbet the merchants from medieval 2, threw on new textures and randomised models, used the HQ soundtrack they made for the mobile rome version etc. Did they do enough work to warrant a 30 dollar price tag?
Yeah, I want coop campaigns and better optimization on my old rome 1. Would be amazing if they did it like age of empires, which has amazing netcode for an old game.
probably bc CA's marketing and pr direction has been heading the exact opposite direction. Removing creators from their partner program that mainly played legacy games like Rome 1 right before releasing a remaster of the game has got to be some of the most braindead moves you could make. It's almost like CA is laughably bad at strategy despite being snake oil salesmen for strategic games lol
@@Volound Oh yeah, I was hoping they would fix those... :P Would be cool if they had differing styles for different slinger types. Behind-back Balearic motion for Balearic slingers, Byzantine or Greek one-motion release for Greek Slingers etcetera. Definetly not gonna happen though.
its even better now than when i played it, thanks to the patching - better than the classic version in basically every way. theres no other game like it. might have to go back to it soon, myself.
Homeworld is dead. the community is so small and Deserts of Kharak was a commercial failure, despite being the best RTS game made in the last 10 years. Homeworld 3 trailer had only about a million views. It seems classic RTS is well and truly dead with no hope of revival
All the Homeworld games are fantastic even the criminally underrated Deserts of Kharak (which controversially is my favourite out of the entire series).
I honestly believe it’s a great thing that the remaster is going to be done by a 3rd party dev. I feel like CA has developed a formula for these games after making them for so long and has thus far refused to innovate...a fresh group of devs with a fresh take will be just the right thing to reinvigorate the franchise, as long as they show appropriate respect for what made it great in the first place
It's not innovation that was required for RTW, it was NOT breaking things but freshening up the media and UI. Also porting to modern gfx, so it runs well again. Unfortunately ever since Rome 2 their innovation has been dumbing things down. They didn't listen to experienced players, who were asking for improved AI and there were mods to help the AI expand, across narrow straits.
imagine sabotaging Rome 1 with a shitty patch to entice people to play Rome 2, only to go back to Rome 1 anyway. Really goes to show what a fucking godawful abomination Rome 2 really is.
@@caligula2167 I played a campaign some 6 months ago, but was bored to tears. Even after I installed a number of mods to make it more exciting I just couldn't enjoy myself.
Here follows a list of features i have gathered so far. Edit: the AI did get updated. It is now able to attack better across seas, and more likely to pull of a concentrated attack compared to the smaller stack spamm one could see earlier. Edit: Faction limmit increase and the ability to mod in new settlements did just get confirmed to be possible by Melkor Pathfinding is more or less the same. The Diplomacy did get adressed. Graphics got upgraded. Some unit rebalancing got done. UI got completely changed with some options to change it regardimg size and the way unit UI is presented. Soundtrack... is the original but ported from a CD. The setting toggles between original and remastered are really nice, and it is said people can add custom settings by mods. Talking about mods... full steam workshop support which is amazing. I literally broke 2 coppies of Rome disks back in the day because i suck at handling mods. But apparently map modding is harder than in the original which really sucks considering overhaul and total conversion mods were the best in Rome and Med2. It is however confirmed that the devs are in contact with at least some makers of the old major mods.
The diplomacy has been updated and they made it so the AI doesn't offer dumb deal, like the "Don't attack us:Accept or we attack" deal that the Rome AI would do.
From the Discord Feral Interactive Q&A this morning: "On release or shortly after tools will be released to support for editing 3D models" The map is editable. The Adopted General and Man of the Hour mechanics are the same as before . There was some concern about this from some of the TH-cam videos. Arrows can be toggled back to the old style. So no white streaks unless you want them. Enslavement has a new default (equal spread) but you can choose the old way. Audio has been improved and some old, unused commands have been uncovered and added for more variety. Multithreading has been added where possible. "Yes, we’re lifting the limits from the original game to allow for more factions and settlements to be added to maps " This will make modders very happy. Campaign map AI and battle AI have been improved (and are toggleable). This could make the game more challenging (good). The game will be supported post release. Great!!! There is an all-answers post on Discord. I
Rome Remastered leaves me conflicted. On one side I'm really happy that they're remastering the game that absorbed something like 1000 hours of my life. On the other, I'm a bit sad that the only "great" thing that might come out from the Total War franchise (besides Shogun 2) is the remaster of a game from 2004.
The best thing about the Rome 2 launch is that one of the developers later went on ArsTechnica's War Stories show on YT and pretended like everything went fine. LOL.
To be fair, if Rome Remaster can introduce a bunch of newer TW players into why TW was so good back then back when, I do not mind. I can see how getting into older TW games can be jarring for newer players. Especially with controls and camera. I prefer modern TW camera by far. As long as they don't fuck anything up (and they will, that's CA, they always do), allow us to revert all the changes if we want to and don't try to make unrevertable changes? I see no harm in it. For us. Maybe we will get some fresh blood!
Have to say the message i get from this remaster is that CA isn't near planning on changing their current game design. Whilst subtle the remaster feature a few changes from the original that you wouldn't expect there to be. Apart from the obvious UI changes one thing that stands out is the addition of firing arcs for ranged units. This feature is highly connected to the dumbing down of ranged units in total war (limiting them to a restricted firing area meaning the entire unit would have to move if an enemy was out of their side to side range or behind them as opposed to each entity just turning their body slightly). Now ofc this isn't a huge change from the original game but it seems to be the biggest that CA was willing to do. However whats important about all this is the message this sends: that CA seems to be showing that it prefers the look and gameplay features of its newer titles to the point at which it would go out of its way to add more to a remaster. This is vital as it hints that there is no desire in CA to change its current gamemodel or to take much if any from its better older titles.
ive seen some things that make me think the ranged combat in the remaster may be completely flaccidified. ill have to wait and see. its one of the things i skipped over in this video for my checklist (alongside MP co-op), but ill definitely be assessing this. and yeah, if there is indeed massive flaccidification, then that confirms what you say as well as anything could.
Have you actually played rome 1. If you want to reposition a unit it it blobs up and spreads out even if you wanted to move it to the same position. Archers repositioning is not worse than that
The only thing that didn’t make Homeworld Remastered perfect was that it didn’t include Homeworld Cataclysm due to missing the original source code and ownership rights :(
@@Volound The adaptive difficulty scaling can fuck you in the behind very badly if you go with the classic cleptomaniac playstyle for hw1. There are mods that let you adjust it, and you should use them if you are planning on using salvage corvettes.
Slightly OT, but CA have posted an online presentation by their senior VFX programmer, and we finally have an explanation why every Total War now has those ugly AF missile trails: th-cam.com/video/uF_0PKUQHFw/w-d-xo.html A technical limitation means they can't be made any sharper and less intrusive, due to the way the VFX system handles transparency and alpha. No explanation is given for why they didn't just go back to the system Shogun 2 uses, where trails are only used on gunpowder missiles and almost never on arrows, yet we can still clearly see them.
RTWR allows you to turn the bloody things off! But they also fixed some RTW classic problems so I find myself testing & comparing the games. Actually play time has been taken by a Stellaris binge
@@Volound OK WFM as expected in RTWR .. just try actually looking at the in game options and toggle projectile tails or effects. You should check things for yourself before being a smart alec, you just wasted my time.
I liked how the first comment on the Steam news page was "So you admit you can't make historical games anymore." Which, frankly, any "remake" or "remaster" implies. The gaming industry has reached the same lows as Hollywood, complete inability to create and implement new ideas so instead old stuff that was proven to work gets remade. Often BADLY. I dont trust this remaster one bit until I see the quality for myself. e: "AI" and "Pathfinding" - No, there is no indication that they fixed either with the Remaster. Apparently the new even bigger unit size option makes the AI even worse. All signs point towards a half-baked mess of a game.
youll love this: www.reddit.com/r/Volound/comments/mdmuvz/my_position_on_this_rome_total_war_remaster/gsg1vc9/?context=3 and yep, i see no evidence of AI or pathfinding being addressed at all in any way. pretty damning.
It's also pretty ironic that in the original example from Futurama this "Take my money" meme by the character was portraid as stupid and satirical by the authors.
I never played Homeworld, but I'm super interested now. I just heard a tiny sliver of the music in the background and recognized it instantly and had to look it up to be sure. It was a Homeworld rendition of Adagio for Strings. A piece I originally heard in the movie Platoon, and to this day still stirs my emotions. Such a beautiful piece. Very awesome.
The big problem with home world remastered was their replacement of the physics based accuracy system with the dice rolling One from home world two. Well it looks a lot better in my opinion homeworld was gameplay was ruined in the remake because it was brought over to the homeworld two engine. The stuff that worked in the original strategy wise simply didn’t in the remake. Thankfully they included the original game unmolested.
this was a problem. yep. this was one of my few issues with the remaster (RNG/ballistics) - and it was a result of an engine upgrade. a consequence of heightened ambition (not laziness). now fixed, and theres even a "player patch" to catch what was missed. so, they patched it. it was a patch that came in 2016, but it came. the situation now is not HW1 being dragged down by HW2, but of the community insisting that both HW1R and HW2R be dragged up together to the standards of the original HW. the remaster saved HW2, after nearly 15y. read the gameplay section: gearboxsoftware.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205281840-Homeworld-Remastered-Collection-Update-Information
Shogun 2 did *have* single unit selection. You could assign units to F1-F4. The feature broke (or maybe removed?) after FotS was released and was subsequently never fixed. Thanks CA. Rome 1 also handled unit mass and collision better than any of it's predessesors. Missiles aren't the only casualty of modern total war. In rome 1 men would push against each other like they were trying to gain ground. The combat animations where rudimentary, but there was a sway to battle. Losing melee units would stretch and buckle as they lost ground. After empire men in melee would just take turns murdering each other on the same line of contact until one or the other gives up completely. Rome 1 had the most authentic unit collision and cohesion which is insane to think about. The controls and camera are bad, but I'm sort of fond of the delay. The old games rewarded being clean and concise over being snappy and reactionary. In new total war your right click drag is your one stop shop, where in rome 1 and even shogun 1, you used the right click + run to move and click+drag when you wanted precise placement. You didn't click+drag every time you wanted to move. That's not to say those timings couldn't use some adjustments though. It should feel smooth and not cumbersome. Shogun 1 has a drag-click delay too, but it's not huge.
Was waiting to see your take, interesting. Homeworld: Remastered was good but I am still annoyed they removed fuel from fighters/corvettes as a mechanic, as it made fighting the Kadeshi much less dramatic. The whole tension was whether you could destroy their fuel pods that come with their attack waves without suffering heavy casualties, but otherwise it was gorgeous. Oh and HW2: Remastered they fucked the sound lines up so the units say "this is a cakewalk" 100x instead of the previous variety, but that's a patch easy to do.
Let this man buy the remaster and pick it apart before you buy it. He'll pick up on things you didn't even realise were/weren't there and it's not like you can trust these other youtubers to speak the truth.
Add this features and its a perfect game: -an online campaign (maybe even with 3 or 4 Player Support) -dillemmas [events with choices] from modern total war games (would give mods more possibilitys for roleplaying etc) -unit replenishment from modern total war games (with possibility to choose between this and the original system) -an Indicator which tells you where you can Set up an ambush -adding killcounts to the unit stats scroll that shows up on the side (as in newer total war games) But mostly the online campaign!!
I spend hundreds of hours on RTW. It is my all time favorite pc game. After i read the features of remaster i was somewhat disappointed. Almost all changes were already done by modders. There are serious issues of this game that even modders cant fix, and none of these issues were mentioned. Instead they added 16 "new" factions and useless merchants. It is like placebo effect. You think these changes effect the gameplay and improve it but they will do nothing. I fear this "remaster" will be the just a reskin of old game with the same flaws.
@@Volound but that is the problem i have the disc version 1.5 amd it run horribly until i found a d3d file that makes teh game run fine in eschange for no fire projectiles
@@Mr_D_The_1st man, you could be screwed. my poll indicates some cannot be helped no matter what they try. did you try the exact fileswap i did for my video, and on a clean install?
@@Volound well i didnt because i assume that file is the original retail file wich is the one i got,i downloaded it regardless gonna do some tests later,never mind that i found a alternate solution using dxwrapper switching render mod from d3d8 to d3d9 now the game runs fine and with fire arrows and fire stones from onagers
With no multiplayer campaign, despite how good this genuinely looks, it just isn’t worth me spending the money to redo what I did 15 years ago. If I had my friend along with the ride however, then another thousand hours could have been sunk
@@Volound yeah, empire if I remember rightly promised to come with MC but didn’t, I managed to get the beta but no one else I know does so I can’t MC on it. There’s not really any excuse this far in to not include it, especially on a game like this! Great videos, been watching them all. Speaks to me and my friend about exactly how we feel about TW! Keep up the good work
Its so satisfyingly having this channel, before i found it i had nowhere to vent my frustration and disappointment with Total War. Ive played these games since I was 10, 20 years ago. I actually bought Warhammer. Stopped playing after a few hours... Never even bothered buying 3 Kingdoms.
@@Volound For sure I will check it out today. I remember typing into google and youtube many times over the years 'What happened to Total War' not fully being able to verbalize what was fundamentally wrong, just hoping that I wasnt the only one with the issue. I feel like theyve completely sold out to the Chinese market. I hope their monopoly on this kind of game recedes soon, itll force them to not be shit. I just want good real time strategy, and convincing historical immersion. Btw Im from Limerick, youre from up North right?
I'll be paying close attention to the first impressions on classic total war channels like this one, and making my decision on whether to get hype on day two.
I play my games on Linux, even though I havent played it in a while , but i remember that the only time i crashed was when trying to open up multiplayer. I own the Original Rome so I got the 50% thing and bough it and im wondering since we can configure our own campaigns to choose which remastered aspects to have or not to have, do you think that thr Remaster will allow the old graphics to remain while having remastered aspects. I quite like the old unit graphics the way they are but would not mind the changes to other graphics
I think the best remasters were for the original Uncharted trilogy. Not only did they update the textures to match the new release's (Uncharted 4), but they also updated the AI and gunplay to make all of the games more dynamic. And the cherry on top of this whole situation was that the remaster trilogy was free with a purchase of Uncharted 4.
I somehow found a mod that allows you to keep your mouse on the screen in the original RTW. I completely forgot what it's called, but there was something I downloaded that kept my mouse in the window while I was in the game. However, it doesn't do it perfectly. It essentially bumps your mouse along the side of the screen and you can still misclick outside of the game and have it crash. But the mod helped a lot with the issue. Hope this helps if you want to try to find it yourself before the remaster comes out.
In Rome 1 I have an annoying major issue that if I was any better would cramp my ability to play my best. Literally have to wiggle my cursor to thinnest unit size then back to show the yellow/magenta arrows so I know what the unit size will be.
It's what makes 4k blurays worth it when they get the audio correct and go at it with the right attitude. Unfortunately like games there are not many who do that.
I pre-purchased this remaster bc I wanted to play Barbarian Invasion, since it doesn't work on Windows 10. So basically RTW is being held hostage, and we have to pay ransom to get a functional version on Steam. I'm new to the series, so I don't mind paying as much as someone who owned the originals for a long time and never saw these issues fixed, but that's some serious moneygrubbing BS right there.
My biggest gripe with this remaster us that it is a reimagining and not a remaster. The removal of Victoria and Marcus as advisors is an absolute travesty and reinforcements delayed as a mechanic that is essentially gutted REALLY ruin it. Oh, and the Scipii intro movie being reworked? Come on.
I'm already happy with what I've seen from the gameplay , the controls seem updated , maybe I'm just scared for them to make changes being it from the the company that decided on the Province System / Imperium System / No armies with Generals etc . 40$ now has the buying power of maybe 5$ of 2004 so pricing arguments are silly
Would love a good remastered Empire. Who knows, if all goes well we could get a Medieval remaster and you might get to finally have a good Scotland game.
I wish there was a cockpit view in Homeworld Remastered, though 😕 EDIT: I've now made a Reddit post abt. this, and would be willing to try and apply some pressure to Gearbox to get them to add the feature. Here is the Reddit post: www.reddit.com/r/homeworld/comments/mhr8aw/cockpit_view_in_hw_remastered/?
@@Volound thanks for responding. very decent of you. yes, I do mean that. I've actually made a Reddit post about this on the H.W. reddit. Id be willing to try and apply some pressure to get this back. I really liked it, and it seems like such an easy feature to add.
Honestly from the small amount that we have seen it seem like this uncanny valley where it sounds like Rome total war but has all these dumb things like the new unit icons 🤮 and the fact that they flaccified the missile combat as well adding in those white streaks as well as making missile firing and impacts extremely quite to the point where they might as well be having a snowball fight.
I suspect that the early access came with a checklist of "things to cover". I watched multiple early access videos of Rome Remastered and all of the them talk about the exact same things. Not a single one talked about the mysterious buttons on the bottom left and bottom right of the battle UI, nor the three buttons that appear when creating a group.
I am afraid. What I have seen it looks like a mobile game and the unit graphics style has been changed, from the colorful armies to look more like Rome 2 gray and brown.
The models for the armies have a realism and classic setting. So, you can choose to have colourful troops with the models close to the original game. Or a toned down more realistic character model.
thought there was homeworld music in the outro because i usually do that, then remembered this video had an entire segment of homeworld music, and then listened back and realised that i didnt actually use homeworld music in the outro this time.
Lord, I just finished my first playthrough of any total war game and it was the first rome. It took me about 2,5 years, but it was fucking amazing. I couldn't agree more with your points here. I play the standard steam version on my linux pc via proton and I haven't experienced any super major problems in frame rates, but there were definitely bugs.
I definitely think the game was tedious and repetitive to an extent, though. You're practically doing the exact same work intensive thing over and over again. The rebellion was also extremely annoying. I had to go out and slaughter entire cities, just because they were far away and the kept rebeling.
This is what's keeping me from playing barbarian invasion and from playing as a different faction. The game is amazing in a LOT of ways, but also very tedious and i don't feel like playing again if it's just more of the same
Get the remastered. It includes 1 and 2 as well in their original forms. Cataclysm is also availible on GOG under the title emergence, because fuck blizzard.
The way people are reacting to this release reminds me of how boomers think "their" music is the best music and anything recorded past 1970 is trash. There's so much more to talk about with this release than the simple mechanical changes to gameplay and graphical updates, but the fanbase is so toxic that any comment that doesn't simply state how hyped one is for it is met with hostility. I am not hyped and I suspect those who are especially hyped for the modding scene will be setting themselves up for a bitter disappointment. If you like the game and will now have the opportunity to play it in a better state, great, but it's also a fairly sad state of affairs when the most you can hope for is 20-year old nostalgia wrapped in a $30 package. (and yes, I know it's half off if you already own it on Steam)
You are wrong about it just being nostalgia, in old RTW you could on a small scale pull off the moves that really happened in antiquity according to military history. Yes, the campaign was anti-historical but the set up made for an interesting game. The other point was the old engine has impacts and momentum, the rewrite for Empires threw out much of the melee and missile subtlety present in RTW. Heavy Infantry did suffer from range units, similarly cavalry would be chewed up by spears. M2T2 correctly made heavy cavalry dominant in the era, and tried to reduce the OP charging ability of cavalry which leads to silly unbalanced play styles. Many times I have started with different modern TW but they aren't as much fun because the newer mechanics and simplifications lose what made RTW & M2TW great.
It seems that pathfinding is still an issue. Maybe i'm paranoid but when watching lionheartx10 it seemed he moved camera quickly away from troops which started having that classic issue, lol
Funny stuff is that I pirated Rome 2 a week after the release and never had an issue with bugs. Got bored in a couple of weeks and touched only once since after purchasing it.
yeah i still dont get the hype. I still play Rome total war one. I see the remaster as new coat of paint on an old car. I have watch a few streams in the last week and after the folks look through all the new stuff its still the same old game. For the folks who have never played, enjoy. For those who have. you been here before.
Stellar critiques! I started playing TW with Warhammer 2 and thought it was good. Then I went back to Medieval 2 and realized how many features have been stripped or dumb-downed over the years. I’m eager to get into TW Rome now. My question is, should I buy this remaster or the original TW Rome?
I was disappointed to find out they didn't bother adding multiplayer campaigns, that would have been enough to make me want to buy it to play with other people, but I just seen a post from melkor saying the faction cap has been removed so it should be easier for modders to add factions, might just buy it when there's some decent mods out
I don't understand why people aren't expecting this to be pretty much a straight port of feral's mobile version. Graphics and UI look very much like on mobile. Not a bad thing by any means but that's exactly where you can set your expectations. I bought Rome and BI (as they are separate games on mobile) as i have a gaming phone, and they run great, UI is improved. I still bought this new remastered version as with the 50% discount it worked out like around $10 usd so for that price and considering you get all 3 games its worth it. Tbh seeing as Romano British are a full playable faction in BI mobile that alone is worth the $10 to have me play a full campaign with them on the PC.
One thing that disappointed me is that back when RTW originally released the Dev's locked some factions as they felt they we're incomplete (dacia, Thrace etc) Now they unlocked it which is cool but why not add some units to complete their roster I know it's possible cause mods do it. While I appreciate being able to work smoothly in morden rigs and that is probably why I will buy it the fact is a lot of things could have been fone better. To list a few:- 1] new units/updated roster 2] new settlements 3) retention of old videos 4) new buildings 5) re worked factions (for the incomplete ones only ) 6) maybe few more additional faction other than the unlocked ones like bactria or hindukush kingdoms
That’s probably going to have to be done by modders It’s a remaster, not a new game so that’s probably why they don’t necessarily want to add new stuff like entire units settlements and factions
you praising Mass Effect makes me... cry... of joy. One of my favourite, most immersive experiences of all time. I shudder to think what they're doing with the "legendary" edition. I'll stick to the originals all the way most likely.
I’m pretty much buying this game because I haven’t played it in about 7 years due to not being able to run it on anything, despite fucking with EVERY setting and tutorial possible. New graphics are an added bonus, honestly I just want to Play RTW again
2:44 First paragraph "finished and working product". Third paragraph "critically flawed original version". Which is it then? It either works or it doesn't.
I admit I’m very excited for the remaster. The potential for modding seems great. I’ve never had an easy time installing Rome mods. It’s always at best a hassle, at worst a nightmare. Simple Steam workshop integration with click and go modding is a godsend. Also, units recruited in specific areas being their native ethnicity for that area is a great touch. Also, I may be unpopular but I like the firing line. Being able to see what has range and what doesn’t at a glance is nice. However I dislike the missile trails and I absolutely hate the UI, especially building management, but I’m sure mods will come and fix that. I guess I’m cautiously optimistic, but I’m not spending a cent until I see real post release footage
Feral are pretty good. Their ports of Total War games to Linux have for me run better than on Windows. So I have high-ish hopes. But I'm not preordering anything, I'm not an idiot.
What I can tell from the people that got early access there is no way this is going to be like a rome 2 launch not even close , i think Feral will do a great job with this game and hopefully in the end of the month we will get (what rome 2 should have been) , peace
I am honestly neutral on remasters, however I became wary of them after Warcraft 3 reforged happened. not that I was a Warcraft fan or anything but it was what they did to the original. and you can see the effect of this when you read the Rome total war remastered FAQ where they say they are leaving the old game up. unlike Warcraft 3: reforged's scorched earth approach. compare this to Age of empires II, where they made a "HD" version of the game that patched some things added new civs, units and widescreen support. then they made Age of empires II definitive edition which is a fitting name because it is the version most people have willing switched over to. it is genuinely great, it also is incredibly and reasonably priced at $20. which isn't something you can say about Diablo 2 Resurrected. when it comes to Rome total war remastered, I just want a better camera (zoom out more and higher FOV, which is what they seemed to have done), the ability to turn off distance to capital happiness penalty (because I don't find it fun and in Rome it was hardcoded, not the case for medieval 2), and the same absolute modding ability or even better (for obvious reasons). I am looking forward to it, but maybe its my own jaded old age, but I find it hard to be excited about anything anymore let alone a another total war game. or at least as excited as I was for Rome II.
Rome was not remastered in a day. All Romes lead to remasters. Romegalul: Remastered.
So many possibilities..
Do you have experience with remasters of your favourite games? Leave a comment describing how it went for you, and if you think remasters are good or bad. I'm curious.
Also here's my initial statement on this Remaster, I recommend reading that before watching the video:
www.reddit.com/r/Volound/comments/mdmuvz/my_position_on_this_rome_total_war_remaster/
And here's the prize pool for the upcoming tourney I shouted out at the end:
gofund.me/2a707235
And here's where I'll hopefully be uploading highlights of the best matches, including the finals:
th-cam.com/users/VoloundExpounds
Is there another game in the franchise that you would like to see remastered?
ROMEGALUL
Also should have given the remaster out for free to everyone who owns Rome 1. It's not a remake so not a new game. Limited time 50% off for owners of the original my arse.
@@notgoddhoward5972 what a great way to get literally nothing for the work they put in
@@thattotalwarguy7911 The question is, WHAT work did they put in?
They nabbet the merchants from medieval 2, threw on new textures and randomised models, used the HQ soundtrack they made for the mobile rome version etc.
Did they do enough work to warrant a 30 dollar price tag?
@@Razzlion the new textures, new ui, historical ethnic variance in units, rebalancing the units, diplomacy rework, difficulty rework, etc. all say yes
I like this thing because it's as moddable as the original. FINALLY a Total War game that can be fully modded again.
Looking forward to the mods too! Better graphics + user interface is gonna mean A* mods again! Probably going to be the best part about it.
And it's Steam mod support.
Its even more, devs have said they are trying to get rid of faction limiters and closely work with modders to ensure they get what they need to mod.
@@Krayt002 ye theyre making it more mod friendly its gonna be great
Is it Waracape?
Yeah, I want coop campaigns and better optimization on my old rome 1. Would be amazing if they did it like age of empires, which has amazing netcode for an old game.
When a remastered game gets more hype than any new modern total war title.
You mean modern non-fantasy.
@@AksamRafiz I know what I said.
@@RoKBottomStudios the you are wrong , warhammer 3 hype is beyond the hype that exists for rome remastered.
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@@RoKBottomStudios yeah, WH Total war is made for a totally different crowd but is still great
Not gonna lie, they caught me by complete surprise with my pants down. Never was expecting that lol.
hopefully the slingers are preserved. maybe they could reverse the direction of the wind-up, but thats all ;)
@@Volound would you take a shogun 3 over a massive ass shogun 2 update with new factions and troops
probably bc CA's marketing and pr direction has been heading the exact opposite direction. Removing creators from their partner program that mainly played legacy games like Rome 1 right before releasing a remaster of the game has got to be some of the most braindead moves you could make. It's almost like CA is laughably bad at strategy despite being snake oil salesmen for strategic games lol
@@Volound Oh yeah, I was hoping they would fix those... :P
Would be cool if they had differing styles for different slinger types. Behind-back Balearic motion for Balearic slingers, Byzantine or Greek one-motion release for Greek Slingers etcetera. Definetly not gonna happen though.
Gotta checkout Homeworld Remastered now
its even better now than when i played it, thanks to the patching - better than the classic version in basically every way. theres no other game like it. might have to go back to it soon, myself.
Homeworld Remastered is awesome
Homeworld is dead. the community is so small and Deserts of Kharak was a commercial failure, despite being the best RTS game made in the last 10 years. Homeworld 3 trailer had only about a million views. It seems classic RTS is well and truly dead with no hope of revival
@@GutsLikesItInTheAss don't say that/ I'm waiting for homeworld 3 :-(
All the Homeworld games are fantastic even the criminally underrated Deserts of Kharak (which controversially is my favourite out of the entire series).
I honestly believe it’s a great thing that the remaster is going to be done by a 3rd party dev. I feel like CA has developed a formula for these games after making them for so long and has thus far refused to innovate...a fresh group of devs with a fresh take will be just the right thing to reinvigorate the franchise, as long as they show appropriate respect for what made it great in the first place
not just refused to innovate, they got lazy and sloppy too
It's not innovation that was required for RTW, it was NOT breaking things but freshening up the media and UI.
Also porting to modern gfx, so it runs well again.
Unfortunately ever since Rome 2 their innovation has been dumbing things down.
They didn't listen to experienced players, who were asking for improved AI and there were mods to help the AI expand, across narrow straits.
imagine sabotaging Rome 1 with a shitty patch to entice people to play Rome 2, only to go back to Rome 1 anyway. Really goes to show what a fucking godawful abomination Rome 2 really is.
@@qounqer You mean 1/4 of the world's population?
1.51 patch is dubious yeah.
@@qounqer Your point being?
Did you actually play Rome 2 in the past few years or are you hating on it because it's "cool"?
@@caligula2167 I played a campaign some 6 months ago, but was bored to tears. Even after I installed a number of mods to make it more exciting I just couldn't enjoy myself.
Here follows a list of features i have gathered so far.
Edit: the AI did get updated. It is now able to attack better across seas, and more likely to pull of a concentrated attack compared to the smaller stack spamm one could see earlier.
Edit: Faction limmit increase and the ability to mod in new settlements did just get confirmed to be possible by Melkor
Pathfinding is more or less the same.
The Diplomacy did get adressed. Graphics got upgraded.
Some unit rebalancing got done.
UI got completely changed with some options to change it regardimg size and the way unit UI is presented.
Soundtrack... is the original but ported from a CD.
The setting toggles between original and remastered are really nice, and it is said people can add custom settings by mods.
Talking about mods... full steam workshop support which is amazing. I literally broke 2 coppies of Rome disks back in the day because i suck at handling mods. But apparently map modding is harder than in the original which really sucks considering overhaul and total conversion mods were the best in Rome and Med2.
It is however confirmed that the devs are in contact with at least some makers of the old major mods.
The diplomacy has been updated and they made it so the AI doesn't offer dumb deal, like the "Don't attack us:Accept or we attack" deal that the Rome AI would do.
From the Discord Feral Interactive Q&A this morning:
"On release or shortly after tools will be released to support for editing 3D models"
The map is editable.
The Adopted General and Man of the Hour mechanics are the same as before . There was some concern about this from some of the TH-cam videos.
Arrows can be toggled back to the old style. So no white streaks unless you want them.
Enslavement has a new default (equal spread) but you can choose the old way.
Audio has been improved and some old, unused commands have been uncovered and added for more variety.
Multithreading has been added where possible.
"Yes, we’re lifting the limits from the original game to allow for more factions and settlements to be added to maps " This will make modders very happy.
Campaign map AI and battle AI have been improved (and are toggleable). This could make the game more challenging (good).
The game will be supported post release. Great!!!
There is an all-answers post on Discord. I
@@eddiex009 thank you very much for the aditions and corrections!
@@eddiex009 adoption is automatic now. Nobody got the opportunity to reject people that could be adopted
@@winniepooh4630 someone post this in a rome 1 forums, so i just shared the info
The Command and Conquer remaster is pretty amazing. Press a button and you can instantly switch to old graphics.
polish. also the jukebox is pretty cool, i heard.
@@Volound jukebox is great the first five hours i played where just all hell march versions on a loop :)
Rome Remastered leaves me conflicted. On one side I'm really happy that they're remastering the game that absorbed something like 1000 hours of my life. On the other, I'm a bit sad that the only "great" thing that might come out from the Total War franchise (besides Shogun 2) is the remaster of a game from 2004.
I think the real comparison needed when this launches will be RTW: Remastered vs the Med2 EBII mod... can’t wait to find out.
The best thing about the Rome 2 launch is that one of the developers later went on ArsTechnica's War Stories show on YT and pretended like everything went fine. LOL.
To be fair, if Rome Remaster can introduce a bunch of newer TW players into why TW was so good back then back when, I do not mind. I can see how getting into older TW games can be jarring for newer players. Especially with controls and camera. I prefer modern TW camera by far. As long as they don't fuck anything up (and they will, that's CA, they always do), allow us to revert all the changes if we want to and don't try to make unrevertable changes? I see no harm in it. For us. Maybe we will get some fresh blood!
Have to say the message i get from this remaster is that CA isn't near planning on changing their current game design. Whilst subtle the remaster feature a few changes from the original that you wouldn't expect there to be. Apart from the obvious UI changes one thing that stands out is the addition of firing arcs for ranged units. This feature is highly connected to the dumbing down of ranged units in total war (limiting them to a restricted firing area meaning the entire unit would have to move if an enemy was out of their side to side range or behind them as opposed to each entity just turning their body slightly). Now ofc this isn't a huge change from the original game but it seems to be the biggest that CA was willing to do. However whats important about all this is the message this sends: that CA seems to be showing that it prefers the look and gameplay features of its newer titles to the point at which it would go out of its way to add more to a remaster. This is vital as it hints that there is no desire in CA to change its current gamemodel or to take much if any from its better older titles.
ive seen some things that make me think the ranged combat in the remaster may be completely flaccidified. ill have to wait and see. its one of the things i skipped over in this video for my checklist (alongside MP co-op), but ill definitely be assessing this.
and yeah, if there is indeed massive flaccidification, then that confirms what you say as well as anything could.
@@Volound yeah will just have to wait and see but at this point I've already lost faith in CA a long time ago.
Have you actually played rome 1. If you want to reposition a unit it it blobs up and spreads out even if you wanted to move it to the same position. Archers repositioning is not worse than that
7:19 - the goosebumps are real
the finest gourmet gaming. it better never get corrupted. homeworld is the only sacred game left for me.
The only thing that didn’t make Homeworld Remastered perfect was that it didn’t include Homeworld Cataclysm due to missing the original source code and ownership rights :(
heard great things about it. yet to play.
@@Volound The adaptive difficulty scaling can fuck you in the behind very badly if you go with the classic cleptomaniac playstyle for hw1. There are mods that let you adjust it, and you should use them if you are planning on using salvage corvettes.
Slightly OT, but CA have posted an online presentation by their senior VFX programmer, and we finally have an explanation why every Total War now has those ugly AF missile trails: th-cam.com/video/uF_0PKUQHFw/w-d-xo.html A technical limitation means they can't be made any sharper and less intrusive, due to the way the VFX system handles transparency and alpha. No explanation is given for why they didn't just go back to the system Shogun 2 uses, where trails are only used on gunpowder missiles and almost never on arrows, yet we can still clearly see them.
make a post about this on my subreddit if youve got an account. would be interesting and worth its own discussion that can be referenced in future.
RTWR allows you to turn the bloody things off! But they also fixed some RTW classic problems so I find myself testing & comparing the games.
Actually play time has been taken by a Stellaris binge
@@RobBCactive turn it off and look at it and come back and tell us about it.
@@Volound OK WFM as expected in RTWR .. just try actually looking at the in game options and toggle projectile tails or effects.
You should check things for yourself before being a smart alec, you just wasted my time.
@@RobBCactive im the guy that uploaded the video, not the person you responded to. sperg.
I liked how the first comment on the Steam news page was "So you admit you can't make historical games anymore."
Which, frankly, any "remake" or "remaster" implies. The gaming industry has reached the same lows as Hollywood, complete inability to create and implement new ideas so instead old stuff that was proven to work gets remade. Often BADLY. I dont trust this remaster one bit until I see the quality for myself.
e: "AI" and "Pathfinding" - No, there is no indication that they fixed either with the Remaster. Apparently the new even bigger unit size option makes the AI even worse. All signs point towards a half-baked mess of a game.
youll love this: www.reddit.com/r/Volound/comments/mdmuvz/my_position_on_this_rome_total_war_remaster/gsg1vc9/?context=3
and yep, i see no evidence of AI or pathfinding being addressed at all in any way. pretty damning.
"shut up and take my ____" has always been one of the shittest memes in existance, barely a meme and more like an extension of marketing
Consoomer
It's also pretty ironic that in the original example from Futurama this "Take my money" meme by the character was portraid as stupid and satirical by the authors.
@@robertasvaicius4437 -Sniff... Is that a consumer product?.. *Ooohhh I'm consooooooming aaargh*
@@notgoddhoward5972Just consume and get excited for the next product.
Shut up and take my upvote!
I never played Homeworld, but I'm super interested now. I just heard a tiny sliver of the music in the background and recognized it instantly and had to look it up to be sure. It was a Homeworld rendition of Adagio for Strings. A piece I originally heard in the movie Platoon, and to this day still stirs my emotions. Such a beautiful piece. Very awesome.
The big problem with home world remastered was their replacement of the physics based accuracy system with the dice rolling One from home world two. Well it looks a lot better in my opinion homeworld was gameplay was ruined in the remake because it was brought over to the homeworld two engine. The stuff that worked in the original strategy wise simply didn’t in the remake. Thankfully they included the original game unmolested.
this was a problem. yep. this was one of my few issues with the remaster (RNG/ballistics) - and it was a result of an engine upgrade. a consequence of heightened ambition (not laziness). now fixed, and theres even a "player patch" to catch what was missed.
so, they patched it. it was a patch that came in 2016, but it came. the situation now is not HW1 being dragged down by HW2, but of the community insisting that both HW1R and HW2R be dragged up together to the standards of the original HW. the remaster saved HW2, after nearly 15y.
read the gameplay section:
gearboxsoftware.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205281840-Homeworld-Remastered-Collection-Update-Information
Shogun 2 did *have* single unit selection. You could assign units to F1-F4. The feature broke (or maybe removed?) after FotS was released and was subsequently never fixed. Thanks CA.
Rome 1 also handled unit mass and collision better than any of it's predessesors. Missiles aren't the only casualty of modern total war. In rome 1 men would push against each other like they were trying to gain ground. The combat animations where rudimentary, but there was a sway to battle. Losing melee units would stretch and buckle as they lost ground. After empire men in melee would just take turns murdering each other on the same line of contact until one or the other gives up completely. Rome 1 had the most authentic unit collision and cohesion which is insane to think about.
The controls and camera are bad, but I'm sort of fond of the delay. The old games rewarded being clean and concise over being snappy and reactionary. In new total war your right click drag is your one stop shop, where in rome 1 and even shogun 1, you used the right click + run to move and click+drag when you wanted precise placement. You didn't click+drag every time you wanted to move. That's not to say those timings couldn't use some adjustments though. It should feel smooth and not cumbersome. Shogun 1 has a drag-click delay too, but it's not huge.
i heard about this F1-F4 thing. thats embarrassing if they broke it. i want it back.
Was waiting to see your take, interesting.
Homeworld: Remastered was good but I am still annoyed they removed fuel from fighters/corvettes as a mechanic, as it made fighting the Kadeshi much less dramatic. The whole tension was whether you could destroy their fuel pods that come with their attack waves without suffering heavy casualties, but otherwise it was gorgeous.
Oh and HW2: Remastered they fucked the sound lines up so the units say "this is a cakewalk" 100x instead of the previous variety, but that's a patch easy to do.
The way you talked about Homeworld (one of my favorite games of all time) ... I just want to hug you, mate ...
Let this man buy the remaster and pick it apart before you buy it. He'll pick up on things you didn't even realise were/weren't there and it's not like you can trust these other youtubers to speak the truth.
@Hello There General Kenobi!
At least 2 of us have sense enough to wait.
I think rome 2 was the most I've ever been disappointed in a game in my life when it came out.
I glad to see that you brought up my question to melkor. It really sucks to not have those anymore.
collins?
@@Volound I missed typed. I fixed it now.
@@winniepooh4630 ohh, and yep i remember anticipating those cutscenes when i was younger. their omission is as needless as it is ominous.
They've FINALY made ROME 2!
Homeworld...oh Homeworld 2...great games.
Homeworld 3........don't fail us...please...
I never knew you could revert the pre 2015 rtw patch to 1.5. i also thought that patch was introduced to break rtw and pave the way for rome 2...
I was blessed to have homeworld be one of the first video games I played
Add this features and its a perfect game:
-an online campaign (maybe even with 3 or 4 Player Support)
-dillemmas [events with choices] from modern total war games (would give mods more possibilitys for roleplaying etc)
-unit replenishment from modern total war games (with possibility to choose between this and the original system)
-an Indicator which tells you where you can Set up an ambush
-adding killcounts to the unit stats scroll that shows up on the side (as in newer total war games)
But mostly the online campaign!!
I spend hundreds of hours on RTW. It is my all time favorite pc game. After i read the features of remaster i was somewhat disappointed. Almost all changes were already done by modders. There are serious issues of this game that even modders cant fix, and none of these issues were mentioned. Instead they added 16 "new" factions and useless merchants. It is like placebo effect. You think these changes effect the gameplay and improve it but they will do nothing. I fear this "remaster" will be the just a reskin of old game with the same flaws.
they will be adding steam workshop support so that modders can more effectively address any issues that arise
I thought this might be a little nitpicky, but this was very well done. Cheers
what dark magic have you used to make rome 1 run fine with fire projectiles visible?
exactly. fucking exactly.
link to the video showing and explaining in the description.
@@Volound but that is the problem i have the disc version 1.5 amd it run horribly until i found a d3d file that makes teh game run fine in eschange for no fire projectiles
@@Mr_D_The_1st man, you could be screwed. my poll indicates some cannot be helped no matter what they try. did you try the exact fileswap i did for my video, and on a clean install?
@@Volound well i didnt because i assume that file is the original retail file wich is the one i got,i downloaded it regardless gonna do some tests later,never mind that i found a alternate solution using dxwrapper switching render mod from d3d8 to d3d9 now the game runs fine and with fire arrows and fire stones from onagers
@@Mr_D_The_1st how ? Can you explain it in detail.??
This Video is probably the nicest modern total war commentary you ever did.
so what did you think of it?
With no multiplayer campaign, despite how good this genuinely looks, it just isn’t worth me spending the money to redo what I did 15 years ago. If I had my friend along with the ride however, then another thousand hours could have been sunk
yep, basic feature. i might have accidentally ommitted it from this video, but its on my list. empire was doing it in 2009.
@@Volound yeah, empire if I remember rightly promised to come with MC but didn’t, I managed to get the beta but no one else I know does so I can’t MC on it. There’s not really any excuse this far in to not include it, especially on a game like this! Great videos, been watching them all. Speaks to me and my friend about exactly how we feel about TW! Keep up the good work
Its so satisfyingly having this channel, before i found it i had nowhere to vent my frustration and disappointment with Total War. Ive played these games since I was 10, 20 years ago. I actually bought Warhammer. Stopped playing after a few hours... Never even bothered buying 3 Kingdoms.
should check out my subreddit. its practically made for you.
@@Volound For sure I will check it out today. I remember typing into google and youtube many times over the years 'What happened to Total War' not fully being able to verbalize what was fundamentally wrong, just hoping that I wasnt the only one with the issue. I feel like theyve completely sold out to the Chinese market. I hope their monopoly on this kind of game recedes soon, itll force them to not be shit.
I just want good real time strategy, and convincing historical immersion.
Btw Im from Limerick, youre from up North right?
@@Scoob505 glasgow born and bred, lad
Same here. Never heard of this channel until today and couldn’t stand watching the early access shills pretend this isn’t a massive disappointment.
I'll be paying close attention to the first impressions on classic total war channels like this one, and making my decision on whether to get hype on day two.
There gonna be a comparison evaluation video?!
I play my games on Linux, even though I havent played it in a while , but i remember that the only time i crashed was when trying to open up multiplayer.
I own the Original Rome so I got the 50% thing and bough it and im wondering since we can configure our own campaigns to choose which remastered aspects to have or not to have,
do you think that thr Remaster will allow the old graphics to remain while having remastered aspects.
I quite like the old unit graphics the way they are but would not mind the changes to other graphics
I think the best remasters were for the original Uncharted trilogy. Not only did they update the textures to match the new release's (Uncharted 4), but they also updated the AI and gunplay to make all of the games more dynamic. And the cherry on top of this whole situation was that the remaster trilogy was free with a purchase of Uncharted 4.
I somehow found a mod that allows you to keep your mouse on the screen in the original RTW. I completely forgot what it's called, but there was something I downloaded that kept my mouse in the window while I was in the game. However, it doesn't do it perfectly. It essentially bumps your mouse along the side of the screen and you can still misclick outside of the game and have it crash. But the mod helped a lot with the issue. Hope this helps if you want to try to find it yourself before the remaster comes out.
you have sold me on homeworld remastered
also looking forward to the treatise
In Rome 1 I have an annoying major issue that if I was any better would cramp my ability to play my best. Literally have to wiggle my cursor to thinnest unit size then back to show the yellow/magenta arrows so I know what the unit size will be.
It's what makes 4k blurays worth it when they get the audio correct and go at it with the right attitude. Unfortunately like games there are not many who do that.
I pre-purchased this remaster bc I wanted to play Barbarian Invasion, since it doesn't work on Windows 10.
So basically RTW is being held hostage, and we have to pay ransom to get a functional version on Steam. I'm new to the series, so I don't mind paying as much as someone who owned the originals for a long time and never saw these issues fixed, but that's some serious moneygrubbing BS right there.
My biggest gripe with this remaster us that it is a reimagining and not a remaster.
The removal of Victoria and Marcus as advisors is an absolute travesty and reinforcements delayed as a mechanic that is essentially gutted REALLY ruin it. Oh, and the Scipii intro movie being reworked? Come on.
As a warcraft 3 player, i must warn you all, i have a very bad feeling about this.
I'm already happy with what I've seen from the gameplay , the controls seem updated , maybe I'm just scared for them to make changes being it from the the company that decided on the Province System / Imperium System / No armies with Generals etc . 40$ now has the buying power of maybe 5$ of 2004 so pricing arguments are silly
Feral is making it not CA and it looks to be very faithful to the original if not more so
5 dollars in 2004 would be worth about 7 dollars today, inflation would have to be 13% a year for the last two decades to have depreciated that much.
Would love a good remastered Empire. Who knows, if all goes well we could get a Medieval remaster and you might get to finally have a good Scotland game.
dunno how you would even "remaster" a game that still needs basic support to bring it to a level of basic functioning.
I wish there was a cockpit view in Homeworld Remastered, though 😕
EDIT: I've now made a Reddit post abt. this, and would be willing to try and apply some pressure to Gearbox to get them to add the feature.
Here is the Reddit post:
www.reddit.com/r/homeworld/comments/mhr8aw/cockpit_view_in_hw_remastered/?
you mean the pilot view that the original HW had?
@@Volound thanks for responding. very decent of you.
yes, I do mean that.
I've actually made a Reddit post about this on the H.W. reddit.
Id be willing to try and apply some pressure to get this back.
I really liked it, and it seems like such an easy feature to add.
Honestly from the small amount that we have seen it seem like this uncanny valley where it sounds like Rome total war but has all these dumb things like the new unit icons 🤮 and the fact that they flaccified the missile combat as well adding in those white streaks as well as making missile firing and impacts extremely quite to the point where they might as well be having a snowball fight.
What about a shogun 1 remaster 😳👉👈
Nah we'd rather medieval 2 remastered
@@tastycookiechip oh hell yeah that’d be even better
There's no reason for it. Shogun 2 is superior to Shogun 1 in every single way, and even includes some of the music and stuff from that first game.
I suspect that the early access came with a checklist of "things to cover". I watched multiple early access videos of Rome Remastered and all of the them talk about the exact same things. Not a single one talked about the mysterious buttons on the bottom left and bottom right of the battle UI, nor the three buttons that appear when creating a group.
yep it seems like youre right. really cringey marketing. that completely puts me off. its like coaching witnesses. prepping shills.
I am afraid. What I have seen it looks like a mobile game and the unit graphics style has been changed, from the colorful armies to look more like Rome 2 gray and brown.
The models for the armies have a realism and classic setting. So, you can choose to have colourful troops with the models close to the original game. Or a toned down more realistic character model.
yo is that outro music from homeworld?
might wanna rewatch the video
@@Volound ya i remember you mentioned most of your outros are from homeworld but i cant seem to find it in the soundtrack compilations 😕.
@@brightonhansford3926 ohhhh now i get it. music is "forever" from rome total war
@@Volound thank you so much and great video as usual. But, what did you think i meant🤔.
thought there was homeworld music in the outro because i usually do that, then remembered this video had an entire segment of homeworld music, and then listened back and realised that i didnt actually use homeworld music in the outro this time.
People who get to play test are presellected yes-men who are not allowed to point thease things out.
Lord, I just finished my first playthrough of any total war game and it was the first rome. It took me about 2,5 years, but it was fucking amazing. I couldn't agree more with your points here. I play the standard steam version on my linux pc via proton and I haven't experienced any super major problems in frame rates, but there were definitely bugs.
I definitely think the game was tedious and repetitive to an extent, though. You're practically doing the exact same work intensive thing over and over again. The rebellion was also extremely annoying. I had to go out and slaughter entire cities, just because they were far away and the kept rebeling.
This is what's keeping me from playing barbarian invasion and from playing as a different faction. The game is amazing in a LOT of ways, but also very tedious and i don't feel like playing again if it's just more of the same
I really hope the remaster fixes this
last song's name?
Where'd you find that piece of remixed RTW music with vocals at the end of this video?
credits
Biggest issue is in RTW is path finding in sieges, they should definitely fix that
They didn’t lol
Is Homeworld 2 worth getting now if I’ve never played any HW games?
absolutely.
Get the remastered. It includes 1 and 2 as well in their original forms.
Cataclysm is also availible on GOG under the title emergence, because fuck blizzard.
The way people are reacting to this release reminds me of how boomers think "their" music is the best music and anything recorded past 1970 is trash. There's so much more to talk about with this release than the simple mechanical changes to gameplay and graphical updates, but the fanbase is so toxic that any comment that doesn't simply state how hyped one is for it is met with hostility. I am not hyped and I suspect those who are especially hyped for the modding scene will be setting themselves up for a bitter disappointment. If you like the game and will now have the opportunity to play it in a better state, great, but it's also a fairly sad state of affairs when the most you can hope for is 20-year old nostalgia wrapped in a $30 package. (and yes, I know it's half off if you already own it on Steam)
You are wrong about it just being nostalgia, in old RTW you could on a small scale pull off the moves that really happened in antiquity according to military history.
Yes, the campaign was anti-historical but the set up made for an interesting game.
The other point was the old engine has impacts and momentum, the rewrite for Empires threw out much of the melee and missile subtlety present in RTW. Heavy Infantry did suffer from range units, similarly cavalry would be chewed up by spears. M2T2 correctly made heavy cavalry dominant in the era, and tried to reduce the OP charging ability of cavalry which leads to silly unbalanced play styles.
Many times I have started with different modern TW but they aren't as much fun because the newer mechanics and simplifications lose what made RTW & M2TW great.
can you please share me the name of the song used in the last bits of the video ?
I think it's the song they used for the credits in Rome Total War, "Forever" IIRC
@@MythicNova496 you are correct , thanks for the info ;)
From everything I’ve seen, it doesn’t seem like the pathfinding or AI has been improved or touched on.
Essentially an overblown reskin from what I gather. Hope I'm wrong
They have said, that the campaign AI and pathfinding have been improved.
@@mrflibble9783 yeah I’ve started seeing updates about even pathfinding being touched on.
This will be the best total war game release since Shogun 2.
I really hope that HW3 is good. Maybe Gearbox will let the developers just do their thing. I don't really have any hope left for the TW series though.
I wonder if they'll keep the bronze age egypt faction or change them into something more era appropriate.
I was very much hoping to see this video before the release.
Just got here to get a full idea and view of the subject.
Let's hope for the best.
So i have the steam version, how do i revert to 1.5?
check the description
It seems that pathfinding is still an issue. Maybe i'm paranoid but when watching lionheartx10 it seemed he moved camera quickly away from troops which started having that classic issue, lol
Homeworld is currently on sale haha the youtube gods have blessed me
Yo bro you let me know if the remaster is worthy or not since i dig your opinions about the later total war games. Have a good day Bless.
I can't wait until the rome remaster hype ages like milk.
God damit volound i was actualy getting hyped for once, now im back to being cyinical again :(
I would love to see a proper remaster of Rome Total War and Medieval II. Empire that plays like Shogun 2 would be nice too.
Funny stuff is that I pirated Rome 2 a week after the release and never had an issue with bugs. Got bored in a couple of weeks and touched only once since after purchasing it.
oh Ive been waiting for this one ive got the popcorn ready
yeah i still dont get the hype. I still play Rome total war one.
I see the remaster as new coat of paint on an old car.
I have watch a few streams in the last week and after the folks look through all the new stuff its still the same old game.
For the folks who have never played, enjoy.
For those who have. you been here before.
The performance does seem better on modern systems, which is nice.. more units, higher resolution, smoother gameplay, better experience
"For the love of ... Bishamonten!"
Stellar critiques! I started playing TW with Warhammer 2 and thought it was good. Then I went back to Medieval 2 and realized how many features have been stripped or dumb-downed over the years. I’m eager to get into TW Rome now. My question is, should I buy this remaster or the original TW Rome?
I was disappointed to find out they didn't bother adding multiplayer campaigns, that would have been enough to make me want to buy it to play with other people, but I just seen a post from melkor saying the faction cap has been removed so it should be easier for modders to add factions, might just buy it when there's some decent mods out
I don't understand why people aren't expecting this to be pretty much a straight port of feral's mobile version. Graphics and UI look very much like on mobile. Not a bad thing by any means but that's exactly where you can set your expectations. I bought Rome and BI (as they are separate games on mobile) as i have a gaming phone, and they run great, UI is improved. I still bought this new remastered version as with the 50% discount it worked out like around $10 usd so for that price and considering you get all 3 games its worth it. Tbh seeing as Romano British are a full playable faction in BI mobile that alone is worth the $10 to have me play a full campaign with them on the PC.
It’s not a straight port from mobile...that’s now how remasters work
Feral at least have some fucking dignity in their work
One thing that disappointed me is that back when RTW originally released the Dev's locked some factions as they felt they we're incomplete (dacia, Thrace etc)
Now they unlocked it which is cool but why not add some units to complete their roster I know it's possible cause mods do it.
While I appreciate being able to work smoothly in morden rigs and that is probably why I will buy it the fact is a lot of things could have been fone better. To list a few:-
1] new units/updated roster
2] new settlements
3) retention of old videos
4) new buildings
5) re worked factions (for the incomplete ones only )
6) maybe few more additional faction other than the unlocked ones like bactria or hindukush kingdoms
That’s probably going to have to be done by modders
It’s a remaster, not a new game so that’s probably why they don’t necessarily want to add new stuff like entire units settlements and factions
@@LiewLmao you should check out age of empire Definitive addition....I rest my case.
you praising Mass Effect makes me... cry... of joy. One of my favourite, most immersive experiences of all time. I shudder to think what they're doing with the "legendary" edition. I'll stick to the originals all the way most likely.
Have you heard about how they got rid of the original Rome Total War on steam? Will they bring it back after release
already addressed in the write-up.
I’m pretty much buying this game because I haven’t played it in about 7 years due to not being able to run it on anything, despite fucking with EVERY setting and tutorial possible. New graphics are an added bonus, honestly I just want to Play RTW again
2:44 First paragraph "finished and working product". Third paragraph "critically flawed original version". Which is it then? It either works or it doesn't.
you noticed the problem. well done. glad you could keep up with the rest of us.
@@Volound No need to be patronizing.
whatever you want to call it. you got a measured response.
does your mom call you a brainlet
Looking forward to the treaties on Rome: Reeeemasterd. Hoping it's good!
I admit I’m very excited for the remaster. The potential for modding seems great. I’ve never had an easy time installing Rome mods. It’s always at best a hassle, at worst a nightmare. Simple Steam workshop integration with click and go modding is a godsend. Also, units recruited in specific areas being their native ethnicity for that area is a great touch. Also, I may be unpopular but I like the firing line. Being able to see what has range and what doesn’t at a glance is nice. However I dislike the missile trails and I absolutely hate the UI, especially building management, but I’m sure mods will come and fix that. I guess I’m cautiously optimistic, but I’m not spending a cent until I see real post release footage
I really hope this works out and they do a medieval 2 remaster/medieval 3/empire 2
If you want something new out of RTW just play Europa barbarorum! Never mind the remaster you won't need it.
This is going to be a mess i cant wait for the comparison video where you tear into the "remaster" you dont have access for a reason
Feral are pretty good. Their ports of Total War games to Linux have for me run better than on Windows. So I have high-ish hopes. But I'm not preordering anything, I'm not an idiot.
What I can tell from the people that got early access there is no way this is going to be like a rome 2 launch not even close , i think Feral will do a great job with this game and hopefully in the end of the month we will get (what rome 2 should have been) , peace
I am honestly neutral on remasters, however I became wary of them after Warcraft 3 reforged happened.
not that I was a Warcraft fan or anything but it was what they did to the original.
and you can see the effect of this when you read the Rome total war remastered FAQ where they say they are leaving the old game up.
unlike Warcraft 3: reforged's scorched earth approach.
compare this to Age of empires II, where they made a "HD" version of the game that patched some things added new civs, units and widescreen support.
then they made Age of empires II definitive edition which is a fitting name because it is the version most people have willing switched over to.
it is genuinely great, it also is incredibly and reasonably priced at $20. which isn't something you can say about Diablo 2 Resurrected.
when it comes to Rome total war remastered, I just want a better camera (zoom out more and higher FOV, which is what they seemed to have done), the ability to turn off distance to capital happiness penalty (because I don't find it fun and in Rome it was hardcoded, not the case for medieval 2), and the same absolute modding ability or even better (for obvious reasons).
I am looking forward to it, but maybe its my own jaded old age, but I find it hard to be excited about anything anymore let alone a another total war game.
or at least as excited as I was for Rome II.