You're doing a great job documenting all these old mines, before the government seals them. Fascinating old "king no 4 boiler" never seen a boiler like that over here in the UK.
''Bats are not blind and can in fact see quite well using their eyes. While most bats do have advanced ears that give them a form of vision in the dark known as echolocation, these good ears does not require them to have bad eyes.''
What a wonderful video! Do you know if they kept the steam engine running round the clock? Did it need constant supervision? How long did it take to get the elevator operational once the fire was started in the steam engine? And how would they call the elevator from down below? Thanks!
Kristy Phillips usually there would be a rope or cable that runs up and down the shaft to the hoist room that would be attached to a bell, they would have a signal "code" to communicate with the hoist operator. Like a 3-1 could be lift or lower to the 300 level. Hope that helps.
Well done, these vids keep getting better each time. That was a killer explore. All of the Hoist mechanism was still intact and everything. It is a bit of a mystery why they would have it there when there is another exit to the outside so close by. Some of those winzes at the end were freaky with nothing around them!! Great vid thanks!!!
That's no elevator, in true mining terminology, your elevator is a cage, the rock elevator is a skip, and elevator shaft is just that, the shaft. An underground shaft that doesn't reach surface is a winze, and the winch is a hoist which is usually housed in the hoist room
Very interesting video! That steam hoist must have been quite the noisy contraption. Did you find any decent ore samples? Must have been very high grade being mined in that era. Hard to believe how dry it is in there. A real piece of mining history!! Keep up the great video's!!
This is a very good video. Flooding the tunnel with light really makes a great difference. The friction hoist fell into disfavor due to the amount of slippage between the drive wheel and the drum. It made it very difficult to stop the cage precisely at a drift. Not to be critical but it appeared that you looked down an opening and referred to it as a 'stope'. If you look down, it's a winze, up is a stope. But if you are looking up at a stope that reaches the next drift level up, is that an 'open stope' or does it have to reach the outside? I'd say it must reach the outside. Please keep these videos coming.
I am interested in elevators. Do you know how old the elevator is? Do you know if the elevator was built by miners, or an elevator company? If it was built by an elevator company, what company built it? Is this the first time you have seen a mine elevator, or not? It looks like the elevator cable (I am guessing it would have been a hemp rope) is missing? Do the safety breaks stop the elevator with friction? Or do they grip on a rack of teeth? Do you have any of the patent numbers? Is Reynolds Rex & Co. the company that made the elevator?
+upanddownadventures The elevator (called a cage) likely dates from the late 1800's to the early 1900's based on the known age of the mine and it's accompanying steam powered hoist. Some cages were site built but even "commercial" cages were relatively crude during this era. We don't know the builder or history on this particular cage. The cable was steel and designed to support the weight of not just the cage and miners but also an ore bucket which would be suspended below it. The safety mechanism engages when tension is removed from the cable. On this cage it consists of two "teeth" that scissor out into the guide rails.
Underground Explorers Are there also teeth on the guide rails that the teeth on the elevator car catch on? It sounds like a very similar, or a similar type of safety to the oldest Otis elevator safety.
+upanddownadventures Nope. They just dig into the wood. Later cages had cams that engaged the sides of the guide rails (much safer and easier on the rails too).
upanddownadventures The braking mechanism was the patented design of Otis of Otis Elevator. It was what made operating elevators safe in the 1800's and early 1900's.
I probably would have taken the engine to. I could make the fire box but that would be in danger of walking off. Not sure if it would be able to hold the pressure anymore.
@@IMDYT420 I know people who restore those engines. They essentially are on display at state fairs. Letting something like that rust into nothing isn't optimal IMO. Restoration is a better option.
Anything after 1880 with round nails so that mind goes back at least a hundred and fifty years those particular square nails haven't been made since about 1860 cool find awesome did you shoot the bastard took the fullsteam motor going to get I could be the old bastard we took enough of them out of all mines back in the 60s and 70s not thinking about anybody else but us oh well
In case of fire dodo why do you think I can control it that way cut the air off and if a fire should happen like smother the fire if it should happen Arris critical in a mine
+Bill Smith The rock hounds have cleaned up most of the easy access cool stuff long ago. Personally Im not much into rocks, maybe crystals but never see those
@@MrPrometheus9 my uncle a rock hound described it. start with a box of marbles you pick up a rock you put down a marble. when you have lost all your marbles you are a rock hound
You ever smell slaves after they've been working all day that's obviously brought the bread and water and and the air tight door so they couldn't smell any food come in and I'll come are running at once and back then mine owners promise guys good pay for a long day of work then lock them in there hence the trapdoor
Great explanation of the steam hoist and its operation….much appreciated!!! Wayne
Bless You, and Bless the MEN who dug this mine with coal-oil lamps and hand tools. BOTH of you have big balls.
Best lighting in a mine loved the video
I like the greater detail in the commentary. Much better than the older almost silent videos.
You're doing a great job documenting all these old mines, before the government seals them. Fascinating old "king no 4 boiler" never seen a boiler like that over here in the UK.
Must have been like Dante's inferno down there with that boiler stoked. Cannot even imagine how hot it would be in there.
Fascinating as usual, especially seeing the boiler and how that system works :)
''Bats are not blind and can in fact see quite well using their eyes. While most bats do have advanced ears that give them a form of vision in the dark known as echolocation, these good ears does not require them to have bad eyes.''
Haha very funny video, great impression!😉
Great videos every time.
The miner 49ers & their daughters Clemintine.. thank you for Sharing
Great winch!
Awesome video and the commentary was excellent!
nice explore and great commentary.
Great video! Very impressive mine.
What a wonderful video! Do you know if they kept the steam engine running round the clock? Did it need constant supervision? How long did it take to get the elevator operational once the fire was started in the steam engine? And how would they call the elevator from down below? Thanks!
Kristy Phillips usually there would be a rope or cable that runs up and down the shaft to the hoist room that would be attached to a bell, they would have a signal "code" to communicate with the hoist operator. Like a 3-1 could be lift or lower to the 300 level. Hope that helps.
Well done, these vids keep getting better each time. That was a killer explore. All of the Hoist mechanism was still intact and everything. It is a bit of a mystery why they would have it there when there is another exit to the outside so close by. Some of those winzes at the end were freaky with nothing around them!! Great vid thanks!!!
That's no elevator, in true mining terminology, your elevator is a cage, the rock elevator is a skip, and elevator shaft is just that, the shaft. An underground shaft that doesn't reach surface is a winze, and the winch is a hoist which is usually housed in the hoist room
frederick j. moller he called it a steam ladder, which is the preferred nomenclature.
That's eastern lingo, the names changed from region to region. In Wyoming they're called floards or flying boards.
Great video guys, as usual! I liked the voice' keep up the good work !
Very interesting video! That steam hoist must have been quite the noisy contraption. Did you find any decent ore samples? Must have been very high grade being mined in that era. Hard to believe how dry it is in there. A real piece of mining history!! Keep up the great video's!!
Is this the same mine in that video by Forgotten Mine history cause the steam which is identical.
Otis elevator release think his name was Charles before that lots of folks in cities went on a one way trip that sudden stop at the bottom is a mutha
That's called a porcupine boiler,a lot of circus owners used them to steam all the engines that powered rides.
That porcupine boiler is cast iron so it would not have very high pressure but would be easy to steam.
frederick j. moller So, is it correct that the only things which reach the surface are adits, shafts, open stopes and air vents?
At 6:18...come on man!...back that ass up!! 😆
Idk how you'd work in there with the smoke and heat from that thing. People were tough back then!
No, they just died young.
This is a very good video. Flooding the tunnel with light really makes a great difference. The friction hoist fell into disfavor due to the amount of slippage between the drive wheel and the drum. It made it very difficult to stop the cage precisely at a drift. Not to be critical but it appeared that you looked down an opening and referred to it as a 'stope'. If you look down, it's a winze, up is a stope. But if you are looking up at a stope that reaches the next drift level up, is that an 'open stope' or does it have to reach the outside? I'd say it must reach the outside. Please keep these videos coming.
What if you're looking up from the bottom of a winze.
Looks like a great place for a stick up. Glade stick up lol
Steam powered elevator? You mean a hoist, right?
Very enjoyable video Shango066
I actually liked the strip tease bit, hilarious!! =)
I am interested in elevators. Do you know how old the elevator is? Do you know if the elevator was built by miners, or an elevator company? If it was built by an elevator company, what company built it? Is this the first time you have seen a mine elevator, or not? It looks like the elevator cable (I am guessing it would have been a hemp rope) is missing? Do the safety breaks stop the elevator with friction? Or do they grip on a rack of teeth? Do you have any of the patent numbers? Is Reynolds Rex & Co. the company that made the elevator?
+upanddownadventures The elevator (called a cage) likely dates from the late 1800's to the early 1900's based on the known age of the mine and it's accompanying steam powered hoist. Some cages were site built but even "commercial" cages were relatively crude during this era. We don't know the builder or history on this particular cage. The cable was steel and designed to support the weight of not just the cage and miners but also an ore bucket which would be suspended below it. The safety mechanism engages when tension is removed from the cable. On this cage it consists of two "teeth" that scissor out into the guide rails.
Underground Explorers
Are there also teeth on the guide rails that the teeth on the elevator car catch on? It sounds like a very similar, or a similar type of safety to the oldest Otis elevator safety.
+upanddownadventures Nope. They just dig into the wood. Later cages had cams that engaged the sides of the guide rails (much safer and easier on the rails too).
upanddownadventures The braking mechanism was the patented design of Otis of Otis Elevator. It was what made operating elevators safe in the 1800's and early 1900's.
You guy's should rig up a camera to a rope or cable and lower it down some of the deep vertical shaft's like that.
we rappelled down that. nothing to see
Is that gold still left along the walls. Do you actually get to mine ? Is this anywhere close to Escondido/Valley Center ?
Was that rope made out of hemp that is cool
Those walls where blown by an skilled hand
good job!
Another great video. Did you switch to LED lighting?
I probably would have taken the engine to. I could make the fire box but that would be in danger of walking off. Not sure if it would be able to hold the pressure anymore.
Never take things from mines unless it’s going to a museum. Leave it for other explorers to enjoy also :)
@@IMDYT420 I know people who restore those engines. They essentially are on display at state fairs. Letting something like that rust into nothing isn't optimal IMO. Restoration is a better option.
Awesome!
so that was a working mine at some point after it was closed down.
Who was the 'girl' at 17:39 ?
I don't think the timbers were rotten. They don't look rotten anyway.
Anything after 1880 with round nails so that mind goes back at least a hundred and fifty years those particular square nails haven't been made since about 1860 cool find awesome did you shoot the bastard took the fullsteam motor going to get I could be the old bastard we took enough of them out of all mines back in the 60s and 70s not thinking about anybody else but us oh well
haha awesome intro
In case of fire dodo why do you think I can control it that way cut the air off and if a fire should happen like smother the fire if it should happen Arris critical in a mine
In case the rock catches fire.
14:00 NAPPA'S VOICE! :D
Lol
What is a stoup
Who's that speaking, Tony Clifton?
do you take any mineral samples ?
+Bill Smith The rock hounds have cleaned up most of the easy access cool stuff long ago. Personally Im not much into rocks, maybe crystals but never see those
what are "rock hounds" ?
@@MrPrometheus9 my uncle a rock hound described it. start with a box of marbles you pick up a rock you put down a marble. when you have lost all your marbles you are a rock hound
SEAM'S TO ME THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I'VE SEEN THIS MINE JUST A DIFFERANT PERSON FILMING IT
me too, marty
Me too
Dissin' Mike's foot disability there I see, lol
Do you know how to edit just to make the video shorter?
Why would you want to do thattttttttttt
Wow captain obvious underground quick chuck him down a wynns
You ever smell slaves after they've been working all day that's obviously brought the bread and water and and the air tight door so they couldn't smell any food come in and I'll come are running at once and back then mine owners promise guys good pay for a long day of work then lock them in there hence the trapdoor
Do you ever think with that mind.
to bad you were a little more guts and explore it all.
we we we we for nothing
Not too bright ......and I'm not talking headlamps pal........