Simon Jordan SLAMS Nottingham Forest For Their Tweet Questioning VAR Official Stuart Attwell 😡
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- talkSPORT's Simon Jordan reacts to Nottingham Forest's tweet taking aim at VAR official Stuart Attwell after their 2-0 defeat to Everton.
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Simon spends half his life questioning peoples integrity. There is corruption in the game. Something needs to be done.
Agree. Simon is refusing to admit and going against his own morals. Clear corruption, bias and incompetence. I'm certain Simon has a podcast lined up with Howard Webb, so he can't bad mouth the PGMOL.
Simon = top LAD proper clobber
Yep. If a Brighton fan was the ref for a Palace game he would have something to say
No evidence at all there is corruption.
Only fans focusing on decisions they don’t like and seeing a pattern.
Simon is a talk sport pundit mate. Surely even u can see the difference 😂
Love the comments. Shows exactly what the fans think. These pundits are not on the side of the fans. Just serving their paymasters.
100% this mate. We can see through this bullshit, but they are all paid PR
go to the tweet forrest put out. most comments on that are laughing at them thinking how pathetic of a statement it was. these comments hardly reflect the majority voice.
@@xNSHD I see you're going through each comment trying to be provocative
@@matthewj6026 he's not...he's just voicing his opinion. As I am. Nearly everyone I know thinks Forest are idiots.
If you really want to make a difference in football, stop going to Premier league games, stop buying SKY and support grassroots football.
Isn't funny how the media class is all following the party line? Imagine my shock
Always the same.....most odd indeed
There is zero evidence to support Forest's claim that the VAR deliberately made decisions to favour Luton. Why would you expect the media to say anything different?
Very weird
@sdal5427
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Neville showing true corporate colours
Everton fan here but why can't you question someone's integrity? If you feel like someone is wrong you can question it!
Because nowadays you're not allowed to call a spade a spade
exactly, i still remember that stupid handball that Michael Oliver gave against you when you played City. The same Oliver that has refereed multiple games in the UAE, why can we not question that?
Moshiri integrity? FFP CHEAT
Atwell's integrity shouldn't be called into question here. The finger of blame needs to be pointed at Anthony Taylor who has been a dreadful referee this season. He is the man in the middle, he can turn around to VAR and say i'm going to the screen for all 3 of the penalty claims. VAR is there to help the referee but Taylor is in charge. I don't think the first one involving Reyna is a penalty. The handball is a 'seen them given, seen them not given'. But the challenge on Hudson-Odoi is a stonewall penalty
@@timedwards5734lol your salty and Everton beat ya lol 😂
Our game is ABSOLUTELY corrupt. And sating otherwise is being part of the problem.
This is not just about Forrest . It’s been happening all season.
Indeed, I am a Tottenham fan and will acknowledge that the VAR got it wrong with the Liverpool goal/non goal. That screw up could cost Liverpool the league.
@@johnmurray8428 People were complaining before VAR were they not? I think they should give you a go. Get some training..Get out there. Show everyone how it's done
The result this year should be completely ignored
@@_Uh_Oh_ ITS BEEN HAPPENING FOR YEARS, its a football refereeing decision get over it, every club down the years has had bad decisions against them, its just highlighted more now through the media, how do u think our teams below the premiership go on, we get bad decisions every week, did you seee the rotherham decision against west brom when the ref gave a penalty for hand ball when the player was clearly four or five yards outside the box? thats bad refereeing!
@@johnmurray8428 no losing to crystal palace at home cost them the league
Souness: "Our game is not corrupt" - sure and pigs can fly
100% corrupt, who do these media guys think they are kidding
He loves LiVARpool that's why.
@@TheValutOfEdthey'll be top of the league and city would be 3-5 points behind if livarpool was a thing.
Everyone gets bad calls but city.
@@TheValutOfEdLiVARpool 😅 How very original......NOT
What part of the games are corrupt?? Be specific. By your notions every error by players, refs, managers is corrupt. You are like most of the idiotic fans out there, confusing errors with corruption. Are the Forest defenders corrupt or Luton supporters for making the mistakes that contributed to the Everton goals?
Jordan questioning integrity as a previous football club owner that didn't pay its players and nearly wiped the existence of the club off the planet is a Pisstake from Talksport as a listener..Had enough going elsewhere
see you next time we know you will be back. nobody takes comments like this seriously all fart no poo.
No don't go, we beg thee.
@@xNSHDNice try. People see the con. Your days are numbered
These clowns dismiss corruption like the game hasn’t been full of corruption for years 🤡😂
The corruption is not on the pitch. The corruption exists with the owners and the management of the game. Fans can do something about it by not going to the games and protesting about rising prices etc etc but they choose not to
@@bengooderham247 Nah, it's all about gambling and fixing outcomes
@@thereverendchislet9566 this would not be surprising
Nottingham forest has basically said what every other club outside the top six thinks but darnt say....
Top 6 ? Liverpool aren't happy with VAR they have lost more points than they gained through it
@hchrist7793 I actually forgot about that. They got propper done in by VAR against Spurs at the beginning of the season, and there was a similar uproar from their fans too....
Nah, Nottingham is right
Nottingham who?
"Nottingham"
Well done talksport you just lost a lot of listeners
Remember Mike dean protecting his mate…. And everything laughed that off I did not
Everything ?
Meant everyone
Forest were robbed. 3 blatant penalties. Disgusting
Ur literally part of the problem!!!!!!
They specifically asked for someone not to be involved in the match because they had the feeling they’d be screwed over and what happens they got screwed over 3 times!!!!! Stop trying to back var and the pgmol and just call them out for once in ur life!!
They are corrupt as well. All MSM is
Why would the premier league even put them selves in that position. They did the same with Man Utd vs Chelsea they put an open Liverpool fan in charge and two dodgy penalties are given.the incompetence from the top is astounding.
They never asked lol perhaps listen.
They didn’t ask them anything lol just listen
You're DAMN RIGHT the integrity of Attwell and the PGMOL should be questioned. At the very least the competence of those in charge is lacking. But this all screams of corriptuon. And the media continues to protect them.
Being incompetent doesn’t mean your corrupt
You are skewing the truth, Forest made the complaint before the game, they knew they would get screwed and they did. Tell the truth.
Ur game is corrupt Souness
Sky Sports wrote an article today or yesterday about how Referees are chosen to do a match and there was a quote by Michael Oliver at the end that I found very telling. He said " If Newcastle are playing and they are fighting relegation I do not officiate the match I don't want that heat" That's the issue I think with Atwell being a Luton fan being the VAR for two clubs trying to stay up. If he has integrity he would have recused himself from this match.
What makes it worse you say they should be fined for calling out corruption is pure corruption in its self
Their integrity should be questioned...they can't be that incompetent, so it has to be something else!
And they said it BEFORE the game! So it's not sour grapes either
Correct
The thing is if there was corruption you’ve all just shown that you’d turn a blind eye and not even look into it. “We’re English so it’s impossible”.
WERE NOT BUYING THIS BS ANYMORE
About time
You either question his integrity or his competence: if he's competent, he lacks integrity and if he has integrity, he lacks competence.
So, Simon, if you were standing trial & even one juror was connected to the other side - you'd be cool with that?
Imagine going to a restaurant, being served food and telling the manager "this chicken is not cooked", he ignores you and forces you to eat it, only for you to get food poisoning the next day. You come out the next day and say you warned the company, they forced you to eat it, and now you're in the mud.
And then big name chefs around the world come out and say you're embarrassing and it's not the company's fault. This is what we're dealing with. They're all in bed with each other
In fact, imagine before going to the restaurant, you voice your concerns that the food is a bit dodgy here and you might get food poisoning. You eat there anyway, cause you have to and you inevitably get food poisoning.
Week in. Week out.
Fantastic analogy
Honestly i have no sympathy for the Refs.. they're arrogant and complecent.
and a part of matching fixing every game
They are corrupt
The question to start with is he a luton fan ??
Stop complaining, get some training and do the job yourself
Forest aren't arrogant, the big six are.
Why can't you question someone's integrity? I don't understand.
Well they didn't prove Nottingham wrong, did they.
"Nottingham"
Remember Alex fergison in his book, speaking to Inter official who said to him "the English can't believe a game can be corrupt, the Italians can't be believe it can't be" I see nothing in them 30 years has changed, the English still in denial about their game
If a Councillor had a conflict of interest, they would have to declare it in advance of their meeting and step aside. Regardless of his integrity, the VAR person should have chosen to stand aside.
"Our game is not corrupt."
Really? For starters the use of PEDs needs to be properly investigated. Not only in the EPL but also throughout European football.
Who cares what Simon Jordan says?
What happened to freedom of speech.
@@mikeirvine1734 What are you on about??
@@bengooderham247 bet you're triple vaccinated
freedom of speech is knly against government not individuals or private organisations.
NF warned the PGMOL over their concerns that VAR had a Luton fan and it was disregarded prior to the Everton match. The match saw 3 penalties not given to NF… it’s like someone pointing out that they’re sharks in the water.. the lifeguard saying it’s fine.. jump in, and that person comes out with a missing arm from a shark bite. Then is not allowed to complain due to mainstream football pundits in line with the clown show that is the current state of the PGMOL.
Exactly nice analogy
Maybe Forest are just not good enough??
Michel Oliver nufc,could not,ref,any Newcastle game ,!! Or the b ottom,three, Oliver a c,fan, but Stroud and Keith on var! Two Luton fans reffing,haha,funny,and they didn't change them,when asked to before the game, do,they make,rules up,as they go,cuz they do,already,
If he was a Luton fan, he would punish Everton. Everton need to play them again and they have beaten them twice already at Goodison.
It make sense to be biased against Everton after winning 1 in 15 and just lost 6-0.
Their integrity deserves to be questioned 😂
There are blogs about Attwell been "outed" as a Luton Town fan from 2010 which doesn't make Forest statement as ludicrous that these pundits are trying to make out
As silly as what forest has come out with is, if the officials were competent enough at their jobs then this conversely wouldn’t be happening.
Why can you not question the integrity of officials? Their incompetence is plain to see, and logically leads you to question their integrity. The beneifit of the doubt that the existing rules confer seems to only benefit certain clubs .
You shall eat the bugs and be happy
the whole point is to question the integrity. we have seen enough this year to see how fixed the prem really is, its a disgrace, I’m not even a forest fan.
All 3 were stonewall penalties. You need something drastic for things like this to be addressed and NF are being drastic. So be it.
Notting forest are right?why the incident continually to repeat again and again,ths league is corrupt
Jordan is a complete Muppet, his integrity should absolutely be in question.
Forest knew it would happen and were ignored with the expected result during the game!!!
Let's be clear FOREST are CORRECT. So YES they can say that.
Corporate talk as usual 💀
Forest were right to say something.
Really alarming that none went to VAR!!
Atwell has never been fit to referree at Sunday league level, nevermind being a premier league official.
Shocking referee.
Funnily enough, us Derby fans learned that when we played forest in 2008
There is a very serious issue with the refereeing and var in this country and we have to just sit back and go it’s fine there humans let it go ! And it’s wrong
After two fixed semis ..and a team relegated....
They CAN say what they want, and they did. Back the clubs, not the incompetent corrupt officials in our country.
I'm a toffee and forrest should of had 2 pens the hand ball wasn't a pen
The penalty call depends on what phase the moon is in, cos some get given others don't.
I do not need to hear these words from Simon Jordan. Or Jamie Carragher or Gary Neville. In my opinion. Based on the frequency and calibre of errors in the last three seasons there is match fixing going on in British football.
This affects every fan of every football club. On our Island. The fans need to stand up and make their voices heard. Football is our sport. Not Sky or BT or anyone else's Its ours.
We can all see with our own eyes what is happening. These talking heads will never say anything. Why? They do nott want to bite the hand that feeds them.
Isn't it amazing all these experts, different minds can all agree that it is not corruption
Well can you prove it answer no, belief isn’t proof
It's one of two things, either the PGMOL puts consistently incompetent refs in charge of decisions, whicb means thwy need to be stepped down or rhey are complicit in the biased decision or lack of, which means they are corrupt.
Correct. It's one or the other and both are unacceptable.
Q.E.D.
"Don't question someones motivations"- Simon Jordan
Spends the whole segment questioning Clattenburg's motivations and integrity.
Why cant a english ref be in charge of a world cup final if england make the final? hmmm?
Can understand 1 pen not given but 3 good shouts
Shocking
Look at the Coventry goal yesterday, those lines get thicker for the big 6 when it comes to crucial offsides ie Isak at LiVARpool last season
The same LiVARpool that had a legitimate onside goal against Spurs not given?
@Frankldinho sorry forgot to add in Klopptime for you scousers that are always handed out to you, or even the ref bottling sending Trent off at St James' this season to for 2nd Yellow, the list is endless
The same LiVARpool that are at the top of the league for team's who have been stitched up by VAR the most this season? It's easy to check use Google put the question in enjoy the answer and then realise you are a divvy Plant pot.. .
@@thumpertoon76 most stitched up club this season from VAR so that's your conspiracy theory out the window you silly (see you next Tuesday )
There's no way that Coventry goal was offside. I swear those lines are random.
Clattenburg was employed because Forest had been on the receiving end of so many bad decisions.
As Souness says, 3 definite penalties in the same 6-pointer game!!! Of course Forest have a right to complain.
You guys earn a fortune and have spent 100’s of hours this season criticising refereeing decisions but when you see 3 appalling errors in one game, you suddenly defend PGMOL.
Bloody bunch of hypocrites.
You should show some consistency and integrity yourselves instead of flip-flopping around like fish out of water you bunch of damp squibs!!!!
OR PERHAPS YOU ARE THE ‘The Football’ establishment and are scarred to upset it; rock the boat.
I think football fans have been calling for referees to do post match interviews. Refs are making more and more crucial mistakes every week. It’s a joke. No wonder notts forest are complaining like this.
“Our game is not corrupt”
I don’t know why people take that as the gospel truth.
Judging from all the decisions made, I’m more inclined to believe there is corruption than not.
Why would they have got in touch about Atwell before the game to point out he’s a Luton fan only to then not object to his appointment and have “no issue at the time”? That doesn’t add up at all…
it seems like Forest's increased scrutiny on refs is actually backfiring and having an effect opposite of what is intended. The number of penalties Forest have been denied this year has been incredible
Why is it outrageous to question his integrity? He wants investigating. Media refuses to acknowledge that the officials competency and integrity are linked.
Forest are right
The state of MOTD punditry has been shocking over the last few weeks and can totally understand the frustration Ian Wright has with what he can and can’t say on TV/ why he’s leaving them. I just watch the highlights now on bbc iPlayer and fast forward past all their crappy analysis. If Alan Hansen was still there he’d call it SHOCKING. ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING.
Bottom line is the officiating this season has been atrocious
What about refs that have cheated in the past like in Italy, should we not question obvious corruption
I did not hear Simon Jordan calling out Arsenal OR Liverpool earlier in the season when they did much the same thing. This man has more double standards than Boris Johnson
I’m an Everton fan and all three were penalties imo, young’s a liability
He needs to sit for the Derby and put in Godfrey, else the refs will surely balance last week's decisions and every little thing Young does will certainly be ruled against us...he was involved in all 3 issues...too much liability.
Yes… we are. Why was someone who supports Luton on the VAR when Forest clearly states they wanted him removed from the ref team because of a conflict of interest? Forest are right to be pissed off and the PGMOL should be sued.
Why would they put out the statement before the game? No doubt Forest treated it as a last chance saloon after a history of decisions against them, and after the game they had the irrefutible evidence to back their claims with THREE wrongful decisions
Im right behind forest and im a villa fan..VAR crooked..just look at the cup semi yesterday..how that was given offside is criminal as was the forest decisions..
The media need to have a look at themselves. Near enough every football fan agrees with the NF tweet.
Even us everton fans agree with you we've both been fd by the prem this season
The media are corrupt as well.
100% why is every pundit against forest
I'm gonna have to question Simon's integrity after this 😂
Simon is also questioning Mark's integrity while saying Staurt should sue
Ive being saying for ages, some of these VAR decisions have been so bad to me the only thing it could be is cheating , every VAR official will support a team and not like some other teams that's just a fact , like if i was a VAR official i wouldn't give Man Utd much, as a Leeds fan LOL !
I'm an Evertonian.if they put me in charge of the merseyside derby......I assured you Lfc(HYENAS F.C.) will never beat Everton again in their remaining history....till The Judgement Day.
Paid PR, paid PR, paid PR.... What a load of nonsense. So Jordan can criticise, complain and 'question people's integrity'... but when a club, dare to question the PGMOL, the media have their backs. Something stinks.
The proof is in the puding, so to speak. I am not a fan of Nothingham Forest. nonetheless, I can sympathise with NF for the atrocious standard of referring in EPL. There are clear biases among the referees in EPL with intent officiating the outcome of certain games. FA cup final between two club from Manchester is aparantly more fashionable/proftable than the other two semi-finalists
The problem is three wrong decisions in forests eyes. Also against Man U and Liverpool they were wronged. They were wronged by ref and VAR decisions. Forest aren’t the only club this season who have suffered. Yesterday they ruled a goal offside against Man U because he was a millimetre offside but it was supposed be a clear and obvious. Well if you’re measuring in millimetres then it’s not. VAR isn’t doing anything but compounding poor decisions. There needs to be a system where the PGMOL are held responsible for those decisions. It’s clear that VAR run by English refs isn’t fit for purpose , get the Germans to do it they do a far better of a job in Europe than our shower of shite refs.
What don’t they understand. You can not account for a subconscious bias. Fans do it all the time. We don’t see our teams all the time. A pen for us isn’t for another team. So the fact he’s a fan, not saying he’s being corrupt. But we have a subconscious bias. Just eliminate any chance of that and remove him from that game.
Mike Riley on Chelsea-Spurs Aug 22 referred by Taylor; "I didn't want to send him up because he is a mate as well as a referee and I think I didn't want to send him up because I didn't want any more grief than he'd already had." Oh yeah, corruption is in other countries not here....
That was Mike Dean as VAR and Anthony Taylor as the match ref. I, for one, think Anthony Taylor is a very corrupt ref. He seems to be at the center of every controversy
Britain is a democratic free country. The owner of Notts Forest can criticise the Government and institutions like the BBC, NHS, Royal Family etc etc ...... but if he criticises the PGMOL he gets fined.
If Nottingham Forest take legal action more power to them.
If any profession makes a mess of things there are consequences, the PCMOL should be no different.
Every fan should get behind Forest and support them in this, VAR needs to go
Absolutely your right as reading all the comments we are all thinking the same it's the pundits what are coming together against us there all puppets just being told what to do
How do we do this?
@@tenerifereddog3943 I was hoping you would tell us
@@dawaring169 thinking about if people are sincere they could display banners at their grounds with messages of suppott I guess.
Reclaim our game. The working classes created the game. A game we use to enjoy escape the world and its political issues for a few hours
The media showing their true colours this week. Strange how they all think the opposite of almost every fan you see talking about the subject?
Get NF and Atwell in court and let a jury watch those decisions and then decide if NF have a case. Atwell is going down every time.
Oh and by the way Simon, when a jury is selected for your defamation case, they are ALWAYS questioned about any possible bias but you don't see jurors offended by their integrity being questioned do you.
😂 good point. People just talk without reasoning. For Atwell yo have a defamation case, he needs to prove what NF said was a lie. How does he prove that? He will need to show all his bank accounts and also show that he’s not a Luton fan. That’s not easy to prove in court
It's just that one brave child is Nottingham Forest who stands up and says , you aren't capable enough to be the supervisor for us 😂😂😂
This likely what happened: forest complained about var and Webb told Attwell and he retaliated against forest. That was pure retaliation. “How dare you complain about me? I will deal with you.”
As a forest fan, I just cannot believe the main focus has completely shifted to the tweet and the question of integrity rather than the actual competency issue of the officials and the wrong decisions being given on the day and human error continuously ruining and making a mockery of VAR. The football club has had enough and have nowhere to go and nothing to lose now after being on the end of terrible decisions all seasons (and no we aren’t just the only club as somebody else has stated). To say there isn’t corruption in the game is nonsense, there’s also bias to some of the supposedly big clubs - eg Man United as a notable one - who seem to get the majority of them decisions in their favour IMO. For the record also, Forest and Clattenburg had requested to get Attwell removed from the fixture, Howard Webb and the PGMOL are just trying to cover up their mistake. Finally - the tweet is wrong (especially from an official account) on every level and we as club will now have to face whatever ramification they choose to make an example of us on. But what happens to both Taylor and Attwell now? What’s their punishment? How will that be proportionate to whatever punishment we get - answer: Nothing. And that’s why this is bad for the whole football community…
When the push comes to shuff All the Pundits &Media will always support the FA, and PGMOL. Sod the fans.
I’m sorry, but 3 in one game is bound to question anyone’s integrity.
I'm convinced, more than ever, that the Prem is bent. I'm not a Forrest or Everton fan but THEY WERE THREE PENALTIES!
City favourites for the title with 115 charges. Chelsea taking the piss.
These pundits are saying what they're saying because they're worried about it all slowing the Premiership Gravy Train.
Victimpool?
Bournemouth fan and fully back Forest’s actions! Media outlets too scared to call out any of this bs and outside the big clubs there is an obvious ‘bias’ when it comes to decisions
Are we forgetting here Jordan is employed by Murdoch he has to toe the line to maintain the contract to air fixtures
Don’t be a 🛎️ Jordan. If you owned Forest you wouldn’t be saying that
It’s not about integrity. It’s about the fact that it’s impossible to be objective when the team you support gains something from the outcome. At the very least there is going to be unconscious bias.
How can Souness say so confidently "there is no corruption in the game".. wake up!
Exactly! And didn't Souness play with Bruce Grobbelaar who was done for match fixing?
It isn't questioning Michael Oliver's integrity to not allow him to ref Newcastle or Sunderland games. Forest's statement is simple fact and its basic common sense to not allow officials with connections to teams in and around promotion, title or relegation battles to be involved in the game that could impact those battles.
They are indirectly saying PGMOL are incompetent....for not selecting an official that whilst not perhaps been unintegral, maybe influenced given the circumstances. I am with Forest on this one...
I’m not getting this shtick that it’s is not right to question an officials integrity. Nottingham Forest have been here before with Anderlecht paying off a referee. They are not claiming something as bad here but the mere fact of the referees allegiance is to a closely competing club opens up the possibility of unconscious bias even if it was not conscious bias. How can everyone be SO sure that there is no corruption at any level in our game. With so much money slushing around how can anyone be certain.