David, apart from really knowing his stuff, explains it so well. He is such a natural teacher and had really helped me understand music theory - Many thanks David.
If you're a beginner, the thing you need to memorize is that "diminished" and "augmented" refer to the 5th of the chord, and "suspended" refers to the 3th of the chord. And that's like 70% of all songs in existence 😅 then you add more notes (7th, 9th, etc) to those triads, and you win at music
Plus that C quartal is just an inversion of Fsus4 which is itself also an inversion of Bbsus2 etc. But such commonalities & a need for conventions really arises with 4 or more note chords.
The Locrian and Lydian triads are also inversions of each other. For example, you can build both F(lyd) and B(loc) with the same notes F B C. Or a Cmaj7sus4(no5) :P The quartal triad also appears when you invert sus chords. With C F G you can have Csus4 or Fsus2 or G(quartal)
And the quartal triad is just a G7sus4 without the 5th - the shell voicing he alluded to earlier. I do think quartal chords fit into regular harmony, it's just a particular way of voicing them. Add the Eb to a C Quartal chord, it's now a Cm11 (no5), add the Ab, Cm11(b13) and so on.
@@susansu3538 Yes. Music Theory for Guitar has a great video explaining how sus4, sus2, and 7sus4/Quartal triads are all inversions of each other: th-cam.com/video/dgElWOI9lv8/w-d-xo.html
I think trying to put a label on anything weirder than the four "regular" triades just leads to confusion. If you have four or more notes in a chord, it becomes something notation-fluid, like if you have C# G B E, you can think of it as Em#6 in the Dorian scale - useful if you're descending chromatically from "usual" Em in a sequence like Em -> Em#7/D# -> Em7/D -> Em#6/C# or whatever, it's often used to create a slightly uneasy feeling instead of staying on one chord for one gajillion bars. But on the other hand, you can think of it as C#m7b5 - a half-diminished secondary dominant of sorts in the key of Bm (C#m7b5 -> F#7 -> Bm is pretty cool and can be used in an interesting cadence), or maybe like Gdor6/C# if you're a weirdo lol. The notation makes little sense at this point if you can't see the context where and how it's used, what role it's playing. If you add a bunch of degrees on a chord you're technically able to write anything that fits but that doesn't mean you _should._ There's a whole bunch of interesting musical maneuvers that require thinking outside the box, like tritone replacements, switching modes temporarily, etc. where the conventional system stops working so perfectly. When I first realised there can be an E# or an Fb or a B# or a Cb or even like Cbb I kinda lost my confidence when describing something musical with notes or letters.
You are such a great teacher. You explain things so well even a new 70 year old piano student can follow and understand it. Now let's see if I can apply it!! lol. Thanks for your vids. My favourite on you tube piano lessons.
Regarding the quartal chords, I'd love to see a video on pop songs that use them! I know of Joni Mitchell's first album that uses a lot quartal and quintal harmony especially on the song "Dawntreader"
I'm going to assume that you listen to this very often but you have a gift to explain in a very clear and simple way topics that are complex. Excellent video. Your content has helped me a lot to understand music theory.
I'm a hobby/amateur musician and I also knew a lot of this stuff already, but there is always something in those videos that I didn't know, or a way to look at it and categorize or contextualize it that hadn't occured to me yet.
I believe quartal chords can fit into the tertiary system, all you have to do is invert them the way you did earlier in the video - in your example, a C quartal could alternatively be a Fsus4 or a Bbsus2 :)
Wow! I think this is the clearest my head has ever been after putting together so much. Easily followed every point you made. I apparently use chords often, but now understand why they are called sus and why leveraging them the way I did worked. Thanks!
That was SO helpful! Always get stuck with this stuff, the naming, why it is like that. You made it perfectly clear, as always. Where musical brilliance and teaching skills come together.... Thanks David.
Great video!! I remember being terrified of your videos and music theory and getting things wrong in my DAW but now I am not afraid of using big jazzy chords, transcribing and naming them am still discovering and enjoying new mystery chords!
Regarding 15:20. Inversions can be used to express quartal harmony in terms of tertiary harmony: C (quartal) = F(sus4)/C = Bb(sus2)/C. Or with another perfect fourth on top: F7(sus4)/C = Bb(sus2, sus4)/C. And another one: Fm7(add4)/C = Bb7(sus2, sus4)/C.
Great video! It really opened my eyes to some of the more exotic triads and exactly how they work. For the Lydian one the first example I thought of was "Chiquitita" by ABBA which seems to alternate D Lydian and D major triads in the coda section.
Good explaination! Couldn't find anywere explainations for Lydian, Phrygian, Locrian and b5 chords (which I like to call Whole Tone chord). Will you also do 6ths and 7ths? EDIT: I knew they existed but had no idea of how they worked
Thanks! I've actually already done 6ths and 7ths. You can find them here... 7ths chords: th-cam.com/video/o00YUSEPu_8/w-d-xo.html 6ths chords: th-cam.com/video/L76ZSpZ4sAQ/w-d-xo.html 😊😊
There are 19 three-note chords. 9 of them have a minor second (or major 7th) in them, such as EF, 6 of them have a major second (or minor 7th) , such as FG, and 4 of them don't have any seconds at all; they are made of major and minor 3rds. C(Lyd) and C(Loc) are the same but different inversions, and a sus4 chord is the same as a sus2 chord, but a different inversion. So he has enumerated 8 of the 19 chords. The CDE chord he mentioned is a realignment of a 9 chord; e.g, C9 = CEGBbD = CDEGBb
I think treating alternative triads as based on their bass note rather than what they may be an inversion or variation of does open up to a different way of hearing the music. So I definitely love my m#5s, sus4b5s and susb2#5s etc. 😅
A note about quartal harmony: a chord built from two perfect fourths (such as C F Bb) is just a suspended chord (in this case, Bbsus2, 2nd inversion; or Fsus4, 1st inversion). A chord by fourths with an augmented fourth on top of a perfect fourth (C F B) is a locrian triad (B locrian, 2nd inversion) and a chord by fourths with a perfect fourth atop an augmented fourth (C F# B) is a phrygian triad (B phrygian, 2nd inversion). So you kind of already covered it in the video anyway. Great explanation!
The 7th chord omit 5 was the first triad I thought of after the major, minor, diminished, suspended, and augmented chords. It was used in The Heart Asks Pleasure First from the movie The Piano.
I'm making my first song as a beginner with the piano, and for whatever reason I found it the easiest to try to make the melody and chord progression together. And somewhere on that way, I ended up with a mysterious chord I really liked the sound of, which is G major chord with a diminished 5th. But I had trouble naming it. At that point I was aware of regular major and minor chords as well as diminished chords and had most of them memorized, so hitting that G(b5) was initially a mistake as I had briefly forgotten how to make a G diminished chord. But I kept it because I liked the sound of it, and it worked with the melody. I got on reddit and got a bunch of interesting albeit confusing answers of what it's supposed to be called. This makes a lot more sense to me now, so thank you for a great explanation! Also, attempting to write songs already as a beginner (I've only been playing for 3 months) is a great and fun way for me to learn about music theory. And yes, I only make songs that are easy enough for me to play at my current skill level, or at the very least, not too difficult. But chord progressions is one of those things that I still have some trouble understanding, admittedly.
There is a slight confusion in the video. What David refers to as the Locrian triad is, in fact, an inversion of the Lydian triad (and reciprocally). Technically, it is known as the Viennese trichord. Therefore, it essentially represents the same chord.
They are inversions of each other but that doesn’t mean they aren’t each distinct chords. You could say the same for Sus 4 and Sus 2 which are also inversions of each other
@@DavidBennettPiano Yes, I categorize sus4, sus2, and the quintal first inversion of the chord (sus4 with the fourth in the bass) as a unified chord group, commonly known as suspended (sus) chords. This approach aligns with the logic applied to Cm(#5) and A♭ at 12:31 in your video, where you assert it as a chord previously discussed. Therefore, for the sake of consistency, it would be more coherent to treat the Viennese trichord as a singular chord along with its two inversions. Nevertheless, the video is excellent, sparking intriguing theoretical discussions.
The quartal harmony sounds like it really wants to resolve to an inverted F major. And the three consecutive full steps sounds very jazzy. (See Deanna Witkowski). This video is like opening a gift box I forgot to, and finding good stuff
Here's a triad of progressions to try: F minor --> Th Major A minor --> R Major OO minor --> You Major It's hard to comprehend how someone so skilled at music analysis has never analysed his own diction; at least he's a piano player and not a singer. The Majority of English speakers (used) to get these sound right. David is one of those TH-camrs that I'll still listen to despite the obvious speech impediments. This isn't about being mean. This is about communication. Apparently, England has decided that it's posh to avoid seeing a speech pathologist.
That's the first time I've heard anything with any element of Locrian (Left Over Crap Resulting In Absolutely Nothing) that didn't outright offend my ears. Here it actually fit in and added that "cold chill" that the song was building up.
For what you've shown, I would say that a more precise definition of a "broader" triad is: 1. 3 notes 2. Some sort of 5th between the 1st and the 3rd ones. In that sense what you discuss in the end of the video actually becomes less ambigous, imo. A great video nethertheless! P.S. I'm actually in love of the Locrian triad and I use it in the bass line of one of my own piano compositions :)
Thank you very much! I sometimes use the major b5 chord in my songs, and I have always called that one "lydian" after watching one of Amiee Nolte's videos... guess I was not totally wrong even though I see why you prefer to call the 1-#4-5 the lydian triad.
It’s so fascinating, Jazz guys use flats more often, & classical sharps, but we are forced to use more sharps in modal situations, or so it seems sometimes, & Jazz is where I studied modes, not classical. I need to back & refresh all of this stuff now!😂
The suspended 2nd chord's stability makes it useful when you want a dominant or subdominant chord that's not major or minor. "History" and "Lucky Man" by The Verve are built heavily on suspended 2nd chords.
I'd like to point out that sus4 and sus2 are inversions of each other, as are lyd and loc. If you're going to consider m(#5) to be redundant because it's an inversion of M, then you might as well consider the aforementioned pairs to be the same two chords. Also, sus2 is a much more tense chord in a minor context, such that Csus2 to Cm is just as "strong" (I despise this word in music theory) as Csus4 to C.
Oh and also the C(quartal) triad was yet again an inversion of Bbsus2 as well as Fsus4. And one could also argue that if M2(#4) (C-D-F#) is redundant because it is a shell voicing of a dom7 chord, then M(b5) (C-E-F#) is redundant because it is a shell voicing of a m6 chord.
I think it’s still possible to analyze quartal triads (and other non tertiary triads) in the context of tertiary harmony. It might defeat the purpose of using another harmonic system, but i think it makes it easier to understand. C quartal (C F Bb), is really just a C7sus4 with the 5th (G) removed. For a quintal triad, C quintal (C G D) for example, is just a Csus2 (with the sus2 being up an octave). This voicing is very popular with guitar players actually. Especially in progressive rock but also in bands like The Police
How can Musician distinguish chord with lower octave. 12:15 (C Eb G#) is tart at C. but 12:31 is start Ab(Ab=G# C Eb) in lower octave In my song I use C dim7, D# dim7, (one octave lower) F# Dim7 , (one octave lower) A dim#7 Actually they have all same note (C D# F# A) but starting point is lowered after D# dim7
Great video again...as usual! But couldn't you look at the C cluster chord as a C add 9 omit 5th??? Or the first C quartal chord as a Bb sus 2 in inversion???
I like trying to analyze chords like this. One chord I love is in the theme from Dan in Real Life: D Ab Cb F#. I’ve never been able to find it anywhere else, but I love how it sounds and I use it all the time. And unless someone tells me otherwise I’ll continue calling it the “diminished major” chord.
@@DavidBennettPiano I am just about to begin a he total piano course from your October special….. so excited to expand my knowledge. I enjoy your videos so much!
sus chords are also made by stacking thirds, but in this case diminished thirds (equal to major second) and augmented thirds (equal to perfect fourth), which are terms that rarely see use outside of niche stuff like this, much like how the diminished seventh (equal to major sixth) rarely sees used by that name outside of a diminished seventh chord
The Locrian triad is in Phantom of the Opera, in the scene where they are chasing the Phantom after he abducts Christine and they are saying...keep your eyes on the level, or something like that. :)
Then there's inversions of these too which creates some other interesting interval combinations. Great video, the Maj b5 I never hear about, although it sounds similar to the Lydian triad.
The chord at 12:55 could be though as a D9 without the 5th. I don't know any song that have used the Locrian triad, but I have personally used it while experimenting with the Locrian mode.
When you played the locrian triad, I heard Victim or the Crime by The Grateful Dead. Not sure if it actually uses it, but that's the only one that popped into my head.
David, apart from really knowing his stuff, explains it so well. He is such a natural teacher and had really helped me understand music theory - Many thanks David.
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Totally agree, he's awesome.
Absolutely true.
If you're a beginner, the thing you need to memorize is that "diminished" and "augmented" refer to the 5th of the chord, and "suspended" refers to the 3th of the chord. And that's like 70% of all songs in existence 😅 then you add more notes (7th, 9th, etc) to those triads, and you win at music
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Suspended either 4 or 2!
Sounds sus
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Plus that C quartal is just an inversion of Fsus4 which is itself also an inversion of Bbsus2 etc. But such commonalities & a need for conventions really arises with 4 or more note chords.
Took the words right out of my mouth. 😊
David, best definition of triads i have ever seen!!
The Locrian and Lydian triads are also inversions of each other. For example, you can build both F(lyd) and B(loc) with the same notes F B C. Or a Cmaj7sus4(no5) :P
The quartal triad also appears when you invert sus chords. With C F G you can have Csus4 or Fsus2 or G(quartal)
And the quartal triad is just a G7sus4 without the 5th - the shell voicing he alluded to earlier. I do think quartal chords fit into regular harmony, it's just a particular way of voicing them. Add the Eb to a C Quartal chord, it's now a Cm11 (no5), add the Ab, Cm11(b13) and so on.
And the cluster one is just an add9 without the 5th
So Quartal triode CFBb is also a Bbsu2 1st inversion
@@susansu3538 Yes. Music Theory for Guitar has a great video explaining how sus4, sus2, and 7sus4/Quartal triads are all inversions of each other: th-cam.com/video/dgElWOI9lv8/w-d-xo.html
I think trying to put a label on anything weirder than the four "regular" triades just leads to confusion. If you have four or more notes in a chord, it becomes something notation-fluid, like if you have C# G B E, you can think of it as Em#6 in the Dorian scale - useful if you're descending chromatically from "usual" Em in a sequence like Em -> Em#7/D# -> Em7/D -> Em#6/C# or whatever, it's often used to create a slightly uneasy feeling instead of staying on one chord for one gajillion bars. But on the other hand, you can think of it as C#m7b5 - a half-diminished secondary dominant of sorts in the key of Bm (C#m7b5 -> F#7 -> Bm is pretty cool and can be used in an interesting cadence), or maybe like Gdor6/C# if you're a weirdo lol. The notation makes little sense at this point if you can't see the context where and how it's used, what role it's playing. If you add a bunch of degrees on a chord you're technically able to write anything that fits but that doesn't mean you _should._ There's a whole bunch of interesting musical maneuvers that require thinking outside the box, like tritone replacements, switching modes temporarily, etc. where the conventional system stops working so perfectly. When I first realised there can be an E# or an Fb or a B# or a Cb or even like Cbb I kinda lost my confidence when describing something musical with notes or letters.
You are such a great teacher. You explain things so well even a new 70 year old piano student can follow and understand it. Now let's see if I can apply it!! lol. Thanks for your vids. My favourite on you tube piano lessons.
Another great academic discussion and useful for including Quartal harmony, too. Thank you again, David!
Regarding the quartal chords, I'd love to see a video on pop songs that use them! I know of Joni Mitchell's first album that uses a lot quartal and quintal harmony especially on the song "Dawntreader"
Good idea! I'll add that topic to the list!
Also Tarkus by ELP is a perfect example. @@DavidBennettPiano
@@DavidBennettPiano I’d love to see that video too!
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@Fire_Axus not sure your intention on that comment if it's meant to be helpful or trolling lol
I'm going to assume that you listen to this very often but you have a gift to explain in a very clear and simple way topics that are complex. Excellent video. Your content has helped me a lot to understand music theory.
I watch all your vids for fun even though I’m a music theory expert and know almost everything😊. Thanks David.
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there's just something in him that grasps my attention idk what it is
I'm another one. David has very agreeable personality and more than a few of my students are fans of his channel.
@@decentsingersclub thank you!
I'm a hobby/amateur musician and I also knew a lot of this stuff already, but there is always something in those videos that I didn't know, or a way to look at it and categorize or contextualize it that hadn't occured to me yet.
I believe quartal chords can fit into the tertiary system, all you have to do is invert them the way you did earlier in the video - in your example, a C quartal could alternatively be a Fsus4 or a Bbsus2 :)
During Last part in which all the chords were played, I was shocked man🤯that those chords could sound like that🤯...my favorite part of the video ❤
Glad you liked it!!
@@DavidBennettPiano I feel lucky that I found your videos. They are exactly what I wanted-very helpful and informative. Thanks, man💐
@@TuneTemptation thank you!
@@DavidBennettPiano favorite teacher 💓💐
Best music channel neck and neck with Beato on the Tube.
Great work putting all the triads in one piece, it can't have been easy making it sound that good!
It's so interesting how the naming conventions of chords makes the whole thing much simpler and much more convoluted.
Wow! I think this is the clearest my head has ever been after putting together so much. Easily followed every point you made. I apparently use chords often, but now understand why they are called sus and why leveraging them the way I did worked. Thanks!
That was SO helpful! Always get stuck with this stuff, the naming, why it is like that. You made it perfectly clear, as always. Where musical brilliance and teaching skills come together.... Thanks David.
Great video!! I remember being terrified of your videos and music theory and getting things wrong in my DAW but now I am not afraid of using big jazzy chords, transcribing and naming them am still discovering and enjoying new mystery chords!
That end piece was pure MAGIC ✨✨
Thank you 😊
Once you played the Lydian triad note by note, I heard "Maria" from West Side Story.
Regarding 15:20.
Inversions can be used to express quartal harmony in terms of tertiary harmony:
C (quartal) = F(sus4)/C = Bb(sus2)/C.
Or with another perfect fourth on top: F7(sus4)/C = Bb(sus2, sus4)/C.
And another one: Fm7(add4)/C = Bb7(sus2, sus4)/C.
Great video! It really opened my eyes to some of the more exotic triads and exactly how they work. For the Lydian one the first example I thought of was "Chiquitita" by ABBA which seems to alternate D Lydian and D major triads in the coda section.
That last piece of music was fascinating to me. I am loving learning about harmony and these deeper levels of music theory.
Damn. You are such a good teacher. It takes a ton of work to make this kind of explanation look so easy and effortless. Huge respect.
Thanks for the clear and concise explanations, you have cleared up a few points that have been bugging me!
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Good explaination! Couldn't find anywere explainations for Lydian, Phrygian, Locrian and b5 chords (which I like to call Whole Tone chord). Will you also do 6ths and 7ths?
EDIT: I knew they existed but had no idea of how they worked
Thanks!
I've actually already done 6ths and 7ths. You can find them here...
7ths chords: th-cam.com/video/o00YUSEPu_8/w-d-xo.html
6ths chords: th-cam.com/video/L76ZSpZ4sAQ/w-d-xo.html
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@@DavidBennettPianoThank you :)
There are 19 three-note chords. 9 of them have a minor second (or major 7th) in them, such as EF, 6 of them have a major second (or minor 7th) , such as FG, and 4 of them don't have any seconds at all; they are made of major and minor 3rds. C(Lyd) and C(Loc) are the same but different inversions, and a sus4 chord is the same as a sus2 chord, but a different inversion. So he has enumerated 8 of the 19 chords. The CDE chord he mentioned is a realignment of a 9 chord; e.g, C9 = CEGBbD = CDEGBb
I think treating alternative triads as based on their bass note rather than what they may be an inversion or variation of does open up to a different way of hearing the music. So I definitely love my m#5s, sus4b5s and susb2#5s etc. 😅
A note about quartal harmony: a chord built from two perfect fourths (such as C F Bb) is just a suspended chord (in this case, Bbsus2, 2nd inversion; or Fsus4, 1st inversion). A chord by fourths with an augmented fourth on top of a perfect fourth (C F B) is a locrian triad (B locrian, 2nd inversion) and a chord by fourths with a perfect fourth atop an augmented fourth (C F# B) is a phrygian triad (B phrygian, 2nd inversion). So you kind of already covered it in the video anyway. Great explanation!
C quartal can also be viewed as a different voicing of B flat sus2.
Or an Fsus4.
13:50 that is a C2(omit5) and 14:30 that is the first inversion of a Bbsus2
The 7th chord omit 5 was the first triad I thought of after the major, minor, diminished, suspended, and augmented chords. It was used in The Heart Asks Pleasure First from the movie The Piano.
Teaching is a gift that not all teachers possess. This man's got it.
Thanks!
I seriously love this channel, thank you!!!
I'm making my first song as a beginner with the piano, and for whatever reason I found it the easiest to try to make the melody and chord progression together. And somewhere on that way, I ended up with a mysterious chord I really liked the sound of, which is G major chord with a diminished 5th. But I had trouble naming it. At that point I was aware of regular major and minor chords as well as diminished chords and had most of them memorized, so hitting that G(b5) was initially a mistake as I had briefly forgotten how to make a G diminished chord. But I kept it because I liked the sound of it, and it worked with the melody. I got on reddit and got a bunch of interesting albeit confusing answers of what it's supposed to be called. This makes a lot more sense to me now, so thank you for a great explanation!
Also, attempting to write songs already as a beginner (I've only been playing for 3 months) is a great and fun way for me to learn about music theory. And yes, I only make songs that are easy enough for me to play at my current skill level, or at the very least, not too difficult. But chord progressions is one of those things that I still have some trouble understanding, admittedly.
0:11 rhythm heaven
David is really the best theory teacher on TH-cam. Cheers, mate!
Thank you!!
There is a slight confusion in the video. What David refers to as the Locrian triad is, in fact, an inversion of the Lydian triad (and reciprocally). Technically, it is known as the Viennese trichord. Therefore, it essentially represents the same chord.
They are inversions of each other but that doesn’t mean they aren’t each distinct chords. You could say the same for Sus 4 and Sus 2 which are also inversions of each other
@@DavidBennettPiano Yes, I categorize sus4, sus2, and the quintal first inversion of the chord (sus4 with the fourth in the bass) as a unified chord group, commonly known as suspended (sus) chords. This approach aligns with the logic applied to Cm(#5) and A♭ at 12:31 in your video, where you assert it as a chord previously discussed. Therefore, for the sake of consistency, it would be more coherent to treat the Viennese trichord as a singular chord along with its two inversions. Nevertheless, the video is excellent, sparking intriguing theoretical discussions.
The quartal harmony sounds like it really wants to resolve to an inverted F major. And the three consecutive full steps sounds very jazzy. (See Deanna Witkowski). This video is like opening a gift box I forgot to, and finding good stuff
Really great video! Isn't the Lydian and the Locrian triads inversions of each other?
Yeah! Similar to how sus4 and sus2 are inversions of one another 😊
@@DavidBennettPiano Indeed, great video though!
It's hard not to burst into singing "Oh, Darling!" after hearing a lone augmented chord 😊
Here's a triad of progressions to try:
F minor --> Th Major
A minor --> R Major
OO minor --> You Major
It's hard to comprehend how someone so skilled at music analysis has never analysed his own diction; at least he's a piano player and not a singer. The Majority of English speakers (used) to get these sound right. David is one of those TH-camrs that I'll still listen to despite the obvious speech impediments. This isn't about being mean. This is about communication. Apparently, England has decided that it's posh to avoid seeing a speech pathologist.
That was a fascinating piece of music at the end! I feel you demonstrating the concepts yourself musically is very powerful and practical
Outstanding explanation, dude. So thankful for helping us to have a little more vision into this vast world of music.
C quartal can be also be inverted as F sus4 or Bb sus2. 14:31
13:18 You could say this triad is the 2nd or 3rd inversion of D7sus2 with the fifth omitted
The video gave me a new layer for apppreciating the music theory... Thank you.
That's the first time I've heard anything with any element of Locrian (Left Over Crap Resulting In Absolutely Nothing) that didn't outright offend my ears. Here it actually fit in and added that "cold chill" that the song was building up.
So enjoyable, so informative. Excellent. 🙏
Ty for being an awesome, clear and concise teacher. You are helping musicians of every variety, (im mainly a progressive metal guitarist).
You could also consider that the Sus2 chords are just an inversion of a Sus4 chord.
C Sus4 and F Sus2 have the same notes.
Omg... this is soooo goood
Perfect piece of theoric class
And I am sitting first row
For what you've shown, I would say that a more precise definition of a "broader" triad is:
1. 3 notes
2. Some sort of 5th between the 1st and the 3rd ones.
In that sense what you discuss in the end of the video actually becomes less ambigous, imo.
A great video nethertheless!
P.S. I'm actually in love of the Locrian triad and I use it in the bass line of one of my own piano compositions :)
Thank you very much! I sometimes use the major b5 chord in my songs, and I have always called that one "lydian" after watching one of Amiee Nolte's videos... guess I was not totally wrong even though I see why you prefer to call the 1-#4-5 the lydian triad.
It’s so fascinating, Jazz guys use flats more often, & classical sharps, but we are forced to use more sharps in modal situations, or so it seems sometimes, & Jazz is where I studied modes, not classical. I need to back & refresh all of this stuff now!😂
Thanks for the info
No problem 👍
Fantastic video! Clearly explained and thoroughly covers the subject - thank you!
I've waited for this video. Thank u
Wow I knew how to spell these triads but getting the explanations was super helpful and you laid it out perfectly.
Very nice video. I liked the graphic representation in forming clear understanding the triads. Very well done!
15:47 the quartal chord is also a Bb sus2 in first inversion
Pretty sure Under Siege (Regnum Irae) from Sepultura uses the locrian triad.
I like playing the “Lydian triad” with the #4 an octave above (e.g., C5#11). I mainly play this idea in Drop D tuning.
absolutly great lesson god bless you man
The suspended 2nd chord's stability makes it useful when you want a dominant or subdominant chord that's not major or minor. "History" and "Lucky Man" by The Verve are built heavily on suspended 2nd chords.
Excellent explanations, and I love the piece at the end using all triads on C-root chords!
Exactly what I needed! Thank you so much.
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I'd like to point out that sus4 and sus2 are inversions of each other, as are lyd and loc. If you're going to consider m(#5) to be redundant because it's an inversion of M, then you might as well consider the aforementioned pairs to be the same two chords.
Also, sus2 is a much more tense chord in a minor context, such that Csus2 to Cm is just as "strong" (I despise this word in music theory) as Csus4 to C.
Oh and also the C(quartal) triad was yet again an inversion of Bbsus2 as well as Fsus4.
And one could also argue that if M2(#4) (C-D-F#) is redundant because it is a shell voicing of a dom7 chord, then M(b5) (C-E-F#) is redundant because it is a shell voicing of a m6 chord.
Excellent, David. Very informative, thank you.
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I think it’s still possible to analyze quartal triads (and other non tertiary triads) in the context of tertiary harmony. It might defeat the purpose of using another harmonic system, but i think it makes it easier to understand. C quartal (C F Bb), is really just a C7sus4 with the 5th (G) removed. For a quintal triad, C quintal (C G D) for example, is just a Csus2 (with the sus2 being up an octave). This voicing is very popular with guitar players actually. Especially in progressive rock but also in bands like The Police
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What do you call that quartal triad? The beginning of the Star Trek theme!
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I loved the practical example at the end
nice review with a helpful holistic context for how it all fits together. would definitely recommend this to a student of theory.
Very useful one since the triad chords are the most commonly used, thank You very much once again😊
How can Musician distinguish chord with lower octave.
12:15 (C Eb G#) is tart at C. but 12:31 is start Ab(Ab=G# C Eb) in lower octave
In my song I use C dim7, D# dim7, (one octave lower) F# Dim7 , (one octave lower) A dim#7
Actually they have all same note (C D# F# A)
but starting point is lowered after D# dim7
Needed a video like this, thank you!
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Very unsettling piece you created there David, could perhaps be in a film where someone is losing their mind!
The quartal chord CFBb is the first inversion of Bbsus2 or the second inversion Fsus4, so it is again tertiary.
Great video again...as usual! But couldn't you look at the C cluster chord as a C add 9 omit 5th??? Or the first C quartal chord as a Bb sus 2 in inversion???
I like trying to analyze chords like this. One chord I love is in the theme from Dan in Real Life:
D Ab Cb F#. I’ve never been able to find it anywhere else, but I love how it sounds and I use it all the time. And unless someone tells me otherwise I’ll continue calling it the “diminished major” chord.
Thanks for doing this video. I needed it explained this way.
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@@DavidBennettPiano I am just about to begin a he total piano course from your October special….. so excited to expand my knowledge. I enjoy your videos so much!
One of the best ending compositions, really weird nice piece, love it
10:05, you can hear the C(b5) as the second chord of the chorus in my song "The Last Tree" for any music 'nerds' interested. ❤
How did I know you were going to leave us with a composition that used all ten? Because that's what you do And a lovely piece it was, too.
sus chords are also made by stacking thirds, but in this case diminished thirds (equal to major second) and augmented thirds (equal to perfect fourth), which are terms that rarely see use outside of niche stuff like this, much like how the diminished seventh (equal to major sixth) rarely sees used by that name outside of a diminished seventh chord
15:57 That quartal chord really sounded Miyazaki-esque to my ears, like it could be in a soundtrack of a Ghibli movie
Best example of b5 is "A Salty Dog" (Procol Harum) first chord.
Thats exactly what I heard immediately
8:53 I know a song. It’s an improv on Chopin’s Waltz in C sharp minor from the movie Secret (2007).
Very interesting in terms of music theory, especially the last parts.
Thank you! Super helpful video as always!
The Locrian triad is in Phantom of the Opera, in the scene where they are chasing the Phantom after he abducts Christine and they are saying...keep your eyes on the level, or something like that. :)
Then there's inversions of these too which creates some other interesting interval combinations. Great video, the Maj b5 I never hear about, although it sounds similar to the Lydian triad.
The chord at 12:55 could be though as a D9 without the 5th. I don't know any song that have used the Locrian triad, but I have personally used it while experimenting with the Locrian mode.
When you played the locrian triad, I heard Victim or the Crime by The Grateful Dead. Not sure if it actually uses it, but that's the only one that popped into my head.
The inverted section explains a lot why I don't understand how chords works on guitar!
Best vid to close out the musical year to.