This saw is a pleasure to use with zero gaps around the blade. I love it! Do you have one of my ZCI’s? Do you own the Hammer K3? I’d send you one if you’re in the States
really impressive! i really appreciate the insight in how you plan and manufacture your tools - not that any (most) of us could pull it off like you, but its cool that youre not just selling but actually giving much of your secrets for free
Thank you for recognizing that! I was asked years ago (and many times) why I give away so many of my secrets!? I love sharing/showing what works for me… And what else would I do with all this information, right? 😬🙏🏼
I don't do woodworking but your videos are super interesting to see simple techniques making things so precisely. Your videos contain so much useful information that can be applied across a variety of fields, thanks for sharing!
That’s awesome to hear! Now, is that a bigger machine than the C3 31? Because I’d like to add your machine to my list! I don’t have the C3 41 listed. Much thanks.
Ramon, nicely done! Intelligently laid out and fun to watch. I'm not a Felder owner as I just purchased a Minimax SC 4e, but was looking at ZCI builds. Very cool.
I've been making my own zero clearance inserts for my KF 700 S for a few years now (CNC) - but just leaving a thin strip of material on the slider side. Works fine but always seemed sketchy. Cutting the relief so that the insert can have more material on the slider side is a great idea! Things a bit tighter in there on the 700 but I think its a win :) Will try to do. Thanks!
Yes…my original insert was like that as well…only had about 5mm to the left of the blade. Broke within the first week when a small offcut got jammed! The extra bevel makes a huge difference! Thanks for checking out the vid 🙏🏼
I bought two of these for my K3 back in mid-2020. I've only needed to install one of course; the other is a backup just in case (or maybe I'll turn it into a 45 degree ZCI at some point). I had to make a minor adjustment on the bottom of the front edge of the ZCI so that it would go in and out more easily. These things are great though. Very well made, and I found it easier to buy one rather than attempt to make my own (well, I had made one in the past out of some scrap pieces but it was nowhere near as nice as Ramon's).
@@ramonartful The modification was minimal, thankfully. I removed part of the front corner that goes under the slider table, as well as a little bit more next to that (to make it level with where the ZCI rests on the saw), and made two minor chamfers on the bottom as well. These changes make it so that I can remove and replace the ZCI with the table pushed all the way to the right. I previously had to move the table all the way to the left to do this, which of course is the opposite of what is required for a blade change. I just chalked it up to minor differences between machines. Picture of stock and modified ZCI here: www.dropbox.com/s/u2twuzsupka0y95/insert.jpg
Thank you tons for checking it out! I wish I lived closer to someone that had the 700 series. I’d like to make inserts for those. I get a lot of requests 🙏🏼
Brotha…you need to expand your view of my video(s)! 😬 In this TH-cam description, I list five models including the Felder K500P and the Felder K500S. If your insert is 22 13/16” (579.4 mm) long, then it will fit. Much thanks.
This is fantastic. I am about to order a KP500 s. I assume it will fit as it is the same body as a K500s. I will order as soon as I get the machine. FANTASTIC
I really don’t know but am very curious! If the length of the opening on yours is 22 13/16” (579.4mm) then I can assume that it will fit. I’d love to be able to add that model to my list. Much thanks.
I love your process, Ramon. Your insert fits perfectly in my K3 and is mandatory for safe operation. I'm guessing you would have used your Shaper Origin to make the template if you were doing it again. Keep up the great work.
Yes! The Shaper Origin would have been the ideal tool to create this! This jig took me a while to make…but I knew what I wanted, and it works perfectly! Initially, I had drawings and three different people cut them CNC. I wasn’t happy with any of them…rough cuts, burning, chipping. I know that the right person could make these as clean as I create them. But the problem is getting the material to them, since the Baltic Birch is covered on both sides with Formica. The shipping cost just wouldn’t make it feasible. I actually enjoy the process of making them…and they’re a great seller. Thanks
Great video and ingenious way to deal with crappy inserts. I have a c3-41 Hammer and I am told the saw portion is identical to k3, but not sure. Do you know if your k3 insert would fit?
@@farshadbagheri I'm just now seeing your comment/question. Perhaps a "slot or wing cutter" on a router. A Festool Domino with a 4 or 5 mm cutter. Maybe a Dremmel. Or, It would be a little tricky to do since the Formica is quite hard. And it wouldn't be pretty, but one could use a drill and then small chisels. That's a good question...let us know how you did it!
Hi. Thanks a lot for your videos. Do you make and sell an insert for felder 700K? Only a couple of days using it, my first big saw, and already I had a couple of frights with the clearance. I thought these inserts where more focused in aspiration improvements but I can see their need now. Incredible how they sell those top quality machines with those risky inserts.
Hello. I feel your pain and am surprised that most, if not all sliders have weak plates with way too much space around the blades . Unfortunately, my ZCI’s fit most Hammer and Felder 500’s. Not the 700 series.
I don’t. Mine is set really good. Are you familiar with David Bedrosian? He has some info and good tips on setting up the K3. He’s @bedrosianwoodworks on instagram. Hope that helps
Hello great video, I'm contacting you from Italy. I wanted to ask you if you also make zero clearence inserts for the Minimax sc4 elite sliding machine?
Hey Ramon. We use mostly portable equipment but I’ve replaced most of my plates to shop made zero clearance inserts. I love the use of the epoxy and Formica. I don’t have access to vacuum bags. Do you think evenly placed weights would good enough? Or should I just stick with Formica cement?
I think that contact cement would be okay...I decided to go with epoxy because of its strength and rigidity. Since most ZCI's are relatively small, you could use clamps and cauls to provide ample pressure to lay up Formica, plywood with epoxy. Weights are okay...but hard to get consistent and even clamping pressure. thanks
If you are making a smaller batch you can use a flat table, a thicker plastic foil and some silicone. Put your part on the table, run a bead of silicone around it at a good offset, set the foil on it, slide a vacuum hose covered with more silicone between the table and the foil and turn the vacuum pump on. As it pulls vacuum press on any parts of the silicone bead that's not compressed. Of course this won't hold vacuum so the pump has to run the whole cure time.
Hmmm…I’d rather just sell the ZCI’s. I need to get paid for the huge amount of work that I’ve dedicated to making these. They’re very high quality. Much thanks.
i ben wanting to make one for my cu300 c mini max . i think they are different from yours , let me know if you can make me one for my model. ill buy 3 from you
These are what my ZCI’s will fit. Fits: Hammer K-3 Hammer B-3 Hammer C3 31 Felder CF-531 Felder K500P Felder K500S Also, check the length of yours. Mine are 23 13/16” or 579.4mm. Much thanks.
I live in NZ, but have a friend coming over in a few weeks from Colorado, would be great if she could bring 3 or 4 with her. Let me know if this is possible. Cheers Ramon :)
Your friend from Colorado would be a good option. Shipping internationally is pricey. I’d give you a discount for ordering more than two. You can email me to set this up if you’d like. Thanks, Ramon valdezfinefurniture@hotmail.com
I can't believe what Ive just watched. You are truly a genius. Very impressed.
This saw is a pleasure to use with zero gaps around the blade. I love it! Do you have one of my ZCI’s? Do you own the Hammer K3? I’d send you one if you’re in the States
really impressive! i really appreciate the insight in how you plan and manufacture your tools - not that any (most) of us could pull it off like you, but its cool that youre not just selling but actually giving much of your secrets for free
Thank you for recognizing that! I was asked years ago (and many times) why I give away so many of my secrets!? I love sharing/showing what works for me… And what else would I do with all this information, right? 😬🙏🏼
I don't do woodworking but your videos are super interesting to see simple techniques making things so precisely. Your videos contain so much useful information that can be applied across a variety of fields, thanks for sharing!
That’s great feedback to hear! Thanks a ton
Wow. Simply wow. Being English I tend to be slightly reserved.. but full marks chap. The beauty in the process is as beatiful as the results. Awesome.
Thank you tons! It was a process to perfect the jigs but I’m now able to crank em out at a fair price. I appreciate the good words. Cheers 😬
A really clever approach - shame my model isn’t included but I’m still impressed with your manufacturing know-how. Cheers
Thank you…means a lot! Cheers
Your inserts are the bomb. Thanks
This is fantastic news to wake up to! Glad you like!
Your insert jig is impressive.
I love those inserts! Just finished another batch of 104 of em! 💪🏼😬 Much thanks.
I have a C341 combo machine and it works great!! Thanks Ramon for the great work and the great videos!!
That’s awesome to hear! Now, is that a bigger machine than the C3 31? Because I’d like to add your machine to my list! I don’t have the C3 41 listed. Much thanks.
Ramon, nicely done! Intelligently laid out and fun to watch. I'm not a Felder owner as I just purchased a Minimax SC 4e, but was looking at ZCI builds. Very cool.
Congrats on the Minimax! Yeah…ZCI’s are super important on sliders! Much thanks.
I've been making my own zero clearance inserts for my KF 700 S for a few years now (CNC) - but just leaving a thin strip of material on the slider side. Works fine but always seemed sketchy. Cutting the relief so that the insert can have more material on the slider side is a great idea! Things a bit tighter in there on the 700 but I think its a win :) Will try to do. Thanks!
Yes…my original insert was like that as well…only had about 5mm to the left of the blade. Broke within the first week when a small offcut got jammed! The extra bevel makes a huge difference! Thanks for checking out the vid 🙏🏼
I bought two of these for my K3 back in mid-2020. I've only needed to install one of course; the other is a backup just in case (or maybe I'll turn it into a 45 degree ZCI at some point). I had to make a minor adjustment on the bottom of the front edge of the ZCI so that it would go in and out more easily.
These things are great though. Very well made, and I found it easier to buy one rather than attempt to make my own (well, I had made one in the past out of some scrap pieces but it was nowhere near as nice as Ramon's).
Bummer to hear that you had to modify yours. Hopefully, it was quite easy.
I appreciate the good words and feedback!
@@ramonartful The modification was minimal, thankfully. I removed part of the front corner that goes under the slider table, as well as a little bit more next to that (to make it level with where the ZCI rests on the saw), and made two minor chamfers on the bottom as well. These changes make it so that I can remove and replace the ZCI with the table pushed all the way to the right. I previously had to move the table all the way to the left to do this, which of course is the opposite of what is required for a blade change. I just chalked it up to minor differences between machines. Picture of stock and modified ZCI here: www.dropbox.com/s/u2twuzsupka0y95/insert.jpg
Looking at your list of machines, I just missed out! I have a brand new K700S. Very nicely milled though. Thx
Yeah…I wish that I knew someone who had that model close by so that I could make one for it. I get the request quite often. Thanks
amazing! Such quality work is inspiring to watch.
i would love an insert for my k740.
Thank you tons for checking it out! I wish I lived closer to someone that had the 700 series. I’d like to make inserts for those. I get a lot of requests 🙏🏼
Mr. Valdez. You have to expand your market. K500 series very popular. We need this product. 😁
Brotha…you need to expand your view of my video(s)! 😬 In this TH-cam description, I list five models including the Felder K500P and the
Felder K500S. If your insert is 22 13/16” (579.4 mm) long, then it will fit. Much thanks.
This is fantastic. I am about to order a KP500 s. I assume it will fit as it is the same body as a K500s. I will order as soon as I get the machine. FANTASTIC
I really don’t know but am very curious! If the length of the opening on yours is 22 13/16” (579.4mm) then I can assume that it will fit. I’d love to be able to add that model to my list. Much thanks.
Fantastic. I am about to order a KF700s. I assume this will work As soon as I know it’s coming I will order. Great work
I don’t believe these will fit that machine. I have a list in the YT description. Thanks
I love your process, Ramon. Your insert fits perfectly in my K3 and is mandatory for safe operation. I'm guessing you would have used your Shaper Origin to make the template if you were doing it again. Keep up the great work.
Yes! The Shaper Origin would have been the ideal tool to create this! This jig took me a while to make…but I knew what I wanted, and it works perfectly! Initially, I had drawings and three different people cut them CNC. I wasn’t happy with any of them…rough cuts, burning, chipping. I know that the right person could make these as clean as I create them. But the problem is getting the material to them, since the Baltic Birch is covered on both sides with Formica. The shipping cost just wouldn’t make it feasible.
I actually enjoy the process of making them…and they’re a great seller. Thanks
@@ramonartful I'm not surprised it's a hot seller since it's a perfect product for the saw.
Great video and ingenious way to deal with crappy inserts. I have a c3-41 Hammer and I am told the saw portion is identical to k3, but not sure. Do you know if your k3 insert would fit?
Hmmm, not sure. I believe it fits the C3-31. I’d check the overall length. Mine are:
Overall size: 46mm x 579.4
(1 13/16” x 22 13/16” long) And thanks
Impressive. I ordered one :)
Thank you! You’re going to love the difference it makes!
Would you have any suggestions for someone that does not have a biscuit jointer, as to how to enlarge the scoring blade hole to accommodate it?
@@farshadbagheri I'm just now seeing your comment/question. Perhaps a "slot or wing cutter" on a router. A Festool Domino with a 4 or 5 mm cutter. Maybe a Dremmel. Or, It would be a little tricky to do since the Formica is quite hard. And it wouldn't be pretty, but one could use a drill and then small chisels. That's a good question...let us know how you did it!
Hi. Thanks a lot for your videos. Do you make and sell an insert for felder 700K? Only a couple of days using it, my first big saw, and already I had a couple of frights with the clearance. I thought these inserts where more focused in aspiration improvements but I can see their need now. Incredible how they sell those top quality machines with those risky inserts.
Hello. I feel your pain and am surprised that most, if not all sliders have weak plates with way too much space around the blades . Unfortunately, my ZCI’s fit most Hammer and Felder 500’s. Not the 700 series.
Do you have any tips on aligning the slider to the table??
I don’t. Mine is set really good. Are you familiar with David Bedrosian? He has some info and good tips on setting up the K3. He’s @bedrosianwoodworks on instagram. Hope that helps
Hello great video, I'm contacting you from Italy.
I wanted to ask you if you also make zero clearence inserts for the Minimax sc4 elite sliding machine?
Ciao amico! Sorry , I don’t. I think that most sliders could use better inserts!
Hey Ramon. We use mostly portable equipment but I’ve replaced most of my plates to shop made zero clearance inserts. I love the use of the epoxy and Formica. I don’t have access to vacuum bags. Do you think evenly placed weights would good enough? Or should I just stick with Formica cement?
I think that contact cement would be okay...I decided to go with epoxy because of its strength and rigidity. Since most ZCI's are relatively small, you could use clamps and cauls to provide ample pressure to lay up Formica, plywood with epoxy. Weights are okay...but hard to get consistent and even clamping pressure. thanks
If you are making a smaller batch you can use a flat table, a thicker plastic foil and some silicone. Put your part on the table, run a bead of silicone around it at a good offset, set the foil on it, slide a vacuum hose covered with more silicone between the table and the foil and turn the vacuum pump on. As it pulls vacuum press on any parts of the silicone bead that's not compressed. Of course this won't hold vacuum so the pump has to run the whole cure time.
I'll tape the gap sometimes I a pinch
Yeah…that’s an okay option. I’m surprised how many different brand of sliders have terrible inserts! Anyway, much thanks.
No slider but still worth the watch as always
Super glad to hear it, my friend
Would you consider making a template available on Shaper hub for the origin or selling that template?
Hmmm…I’d rather just sell the ZCI’s. I need to get paid for the huge amount of work that I’ve dedicated to making these. They’re very high quality. Much thanks.
@@ramonartful I get that. I ordered one.
@@Andy-iw9su Awesome...thank you
i ben wanting to make one for my cu300 c mini max . i think they are different from yours , let me know if you can make me one for my model. ill buy 3 from you
Yeah, they are different. If I knew someone close, I would make one, then mass produce em. A good fitting ZCI makes such a huge diff! Thanks
Hi do you sell these zero clearance inserts that you make for Felder
These are what my ZCI’s will fit.
Fits:
Hammer K-3
Hammer B-3
Hammer C3 31
Felder CF-531
Felder K500P
Felder K500S
Also, check the length of yours. Mine are 23 13/16” or 579.4mm.
Much thanks.
How do i get one Ramon? Tried through your website. Cheers
I live in NZ, but have a friend coming over in a few weeks from Colorado, would be great if she could bring 3 or 4 with her. Let me know if this is possible. Cheers Ramon :)
Your friend from Colorado would be a good option. Shipping internationally is pricey. I’d give you a discount for ordering more than two. You can email me to set this up if you’d like. Thanks, Ramon
valdezfinefurniture@hotmail.com
This is a great ZCI! I ordered one before I received my B3.
I love hearing that! Such a huge difference when cutting small piece or trimming small off cuts, yeah? Thanks
@@ramonartful It also reduces kickback as the stock insert will tip small pieces into the blade