man between this and the KT p50, the PSA 5.7 rock, the ruger pistol/LC charger/carbine in 5.7, CMMG Dissent tisas 5.7, MPAs long standing 5.7 mac11s, CMMG Banshee, Diamondback dbx...im amazed at the 5.7 resurgence the past couple years
I have a gen2 in 40sw…never any issues. Good piece. I also have a red dot (side flip M carbo). One thing I think I changed my mind about is having the red dot, the angled grip…for that matter, having anything on it at all. This thing is a contingency gun. The stock sights work fine, at least out to 150/200 yds.. It really doesn’t need a dot. They even look ridiculous with all the AR furniture on them. The main thing with this is how easy it is to stick in a backpack anyway. It’s one step up from a pistol and not meant to take on the role of a rifle anyway. I’m taking all the crap off mine.
I’ve been a keltec fan for 20 years. I’ve had almost every gun they’ve ever produced at some point. I had the gen 1 sub 2k in 9mm, I’ve had 2 gen 2s one in 40 and the other in 9mm which I still own, and now I just scooped up this 5.7 gen 3. Kel-tec just gets better and better. They started with affordable but not necessarily reliable products, and now they’re an industry leader. No one else takes the risks that they do. Now, even Smith and Wesson copies their designs (they have their version of a folding carbine AND a KSG clone). Plus, keltec is made right here in the Gunshine state. What’s not to love about them?
I picked up the 9mm gen 3 from PSA o. Sale for just over 3 bills I've placed an olight and a good red dot on it and fired a few hundred rounds. Perfect so far! Sweet stowability too.
Always liked the 2000 but have held off till the Gen 3. I have had mine for about six months in 9mm with Glock mags. Mounted a red dot and also a green laser for up close and low light. With the laser it can be fired tucked in tight under the arm SMG style in tight spaces. I don’t like mounted flash lights since you must point your weapon to scan an area. This has become my go to weapon for a home defense / truck gun for both two and four legged varmints. My 12 ga. Is now relegated to a back up.
This thing is kind of like a mini rifle at this point. The ammo is a pocket sized rifle caliber in my opinion. Definitely gonna add one to the inventory 👍🏽
The gen 3 looks to be better than previous, I handled one at a gun shop, but I'm still not giving KT any money. I bought a Ruger PCC and am very happy with it.
5.7 in a PCC makes a lot of sense. 9mm doesn't even stay supersonic to 100 yards and drops like a rock. This should stay supersonic well past 300, maybe up to 500 with the good ammo. Definitely more than what you can accomplish with a handgun and a red dot. Would be nice to see how it does at 100 yards on a bench with a scope.
There is a con you may have missed. The out of battery protection has a lot of slop in it. You could have the case sticking a good 6 mm out of the chamber and it will still fire. This is a big problem for the 5.7x28 because it is a KB prone cartridge. Though I tested the most common cause, case neck separation, by putting a cut off case neck into the chamber, then chambered a dummy round, and I got a dead trigger. I recommend getting the heavy weight bolt regardless. IDK why Kel-tec makes their 5.7 bolts so light, a heavier bolt resists shoulder blowout better, which makes case neck separation less likely. That's why a Ruger LC can handle FN's hot ammo all day long, but the Kel-Tec P50 can't.
I need this. Maybe in the future you can test it out at 100 yards or more with a scope. Seeing how it did with the red dot, I bet it will perform well. Thanks for spending the $ to put it through 800 rounds. Did it have any malfunctions?
Try a 25yd zero with the 5.7- it's pretty close to a 25/200 zero. It will only be 5 inches or so high at 150ish and closer to your zero inside that. Zeroing closer puts you higher sooner, and further you loose that secondary zero .
Nice video....a pluto or switchback suppressor would finish off that gun perfectly. Use a lower moa red dot to be more accurate at 100yds...that did the trick for me.
great job demonstrating that politics is your only personality trait. that was so unbelievably irrelevant and pointless, but you just had to pointlessly yammer it out anyway, i don't even have anything against trump but being so hypdr political that it's all you do everywhere you go is just a miserable sounding existence, I'd rather be flayed and vivisected, at least that'd be mildly interesting unlike getting obsessed with some strange human who holds influence.... all you hyper political people from all sides seriously need to reevaluate your life and priorities,stop praising people and putting them on a pedestal and just live your life...if you even know what that implies without politics.
Too much money for a gun with plastic in the internals and trigger group. Then spend another 200-300 on upgrades to get rid of the plastic. No thanks. S&W FPC.
“Best” thing about the Gen 3 is also the WORST thing about the Gen 3… The twisting barrel… Good idea, poorly executed! They should’ve made a “ramp” in the hinge to automatically guide the barrel to its home position! Or more simply made it twist to a stop! Having to “hunt” for the center position to deploy it is terrible! Stressful situation, trying to deploy it, and now you have to worry about going past center… So now here you are fumbling around with it if you mess it up…
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man between this and the KT p50, the PSA 5.7 rock, the ruger pistol/LC charger/carbine in 5.7, CMMG Dissent tisas 5.7, MPAs long standing 5.7 mac11s, CMMG Banshee, Diamondback dbx...im amazed at the 5.7 resurgence the past couple years
I've been waiting weeks for a decent review of this gun. Can't wait. 🙂
Thanks buddy. Gun is legit
I have a gen2 in 40sw…never any issues. Good piece. I also have a red dot (side flip M carbo). One thing I think I changed my mind about is having the red dot, the angled grip…for that matter, having anything on it at all. This thing is a contingency gun. The stock sights work fine, at least out to 150/200 yds.. It really doesn’t need a dot. They even look ridiculous with all the AR furniture on them. The main thing with this is how easy it is to stick in a backpack anyway. It’s one step up from a pistol and not meant to take on the role of a rifle anyway. I’m taking all the crap off mine.
I’ve been a keltec fan for 20 years. I’ve had almost every gun they’ve ever produced at some point. I had the gen 1 sub 2k in 9mm, I’ve had 2 gen 2s one in 40 and the other in 9mm which I still own, and now I just scooped up this 5.7 gen 3. Kel-tec just gets better and better. They started with affordable but not necessarily reliable products, and now they’re an industry leader. No one else takes the risks that they do. Now, even Smith and Wesson copies their designs (they have their version of a folding carbine AND a KSG clone). Plus, keltec is made right here in the Gunshine state. What’s not to love about them?
I picked up the 9mm gen 3 from PSA o. Sale for just over 3 bills
I've placed an olight and a good red dot on it and fired a few hundred rounds.
Perfect so far!
Sweet stowability too.
heck ya. I really like it. PSA runs some solid sales
Always liked the 2000 but have held off till the Gen 3. I have had mine for about six months in 9mm with Glock mags. Mounted a red dot and also a green laser for up close and low light. With the laser it can be fired tucked in tight under the arm SMG style in tight spaces. I don’t like mounted flash lights since you must point your weapon to scan an area. This has become my go to weapon for a home defense / truck gun for both two and four legged varmints. My 12 ga. Is now relegated to a back up.
Its a pretty sweet rifle for sure
After tonight 5.7x28 will be no where to be found.......🤣🤣🤣
This thing is kind of like a mini rifle at this point. The ammo is a pocket sized rifle caliber in my opinion. Definitely gonna add one to the inventory 👍🏽
You will not regret it
I hope with the next gen, they introduce some sturdier feeling plastic & a non reciprocating charging handle.
That 50 yard paper was AWESOME.
Man thank you. I appreciate it
The gen 3 looks to be better than previous, I handled one at a gun shop, but I'm still not giving KT any money. I bought a Ruger PCC and am very happy with it.
Logan the Rugers are sweet also. cant go wrong
I put a Red Lion front end on my gen 2 40 cal. & thinking about replacing the red dot with a scope, to see farther out...
I have a couple them. Pretty sweet, especially for sub 400 bucks. Just wish it would have been made for the PSA or Ruger 57 magazine
5.7 in a PCC makes a lot of sense. 9mm doesn't even stay supersonic to 100 yards and drops like a rock. This should stay supersonic well past 300, maybe up to 500 with the good ammo. Definitely more than what you can accomplish with a handgun and a red dot. Would be nice to see how it does at 100 yards on a bench with a scope.
Good points. do you have a PCC?
@@SMASHTIME I have a cmr30 and an ar57.
There is a con you may have missed. The out of battery protection has a lot of slop in it. You could have the case sticking a good 6 mm out of the chamber and it will still fire. This is a big problem for the 5.7x28 because it is a KB prone cartridge. Though I tested the most common cause, case neck separation, by putting a cut off case neck into the chamber, then chambered a dummy round, and I got a dead trigger.
I recommend getting the heavy weight bolt regardless. IDK why Kel-tec makes their 5.7 bolts so light, a heavier bolt resists shoulder blowout better, which makes case neck separation less likely. That's why a Ruger LC can handle FN's hot ammo all day long, but the Kel-Tec P50 can't.
no issues as it sits so far
Scored the gen 3 57x28 for $350 from my guy , can't wait to hit the range 🔥🤘
Looks like a solid backpack gun. If your nephew is hiking in Colorado he should get a 10mm though, lol. Why the switch from the 510 to the AEMS?
Ohhhhhh.. you noticed that. I got a killer deal on the AEMS and felt it really fit the gun well. Hope all is well buddy. you going to Shot Show?
I need this. Maybe in the future you can test it out at 100 yards or more with a scope. Seeing how it did with the red dot, I bet it will perform well. Thanks for spending the $ to put it through 800 rounds. Did it have any malfunctions?
I was thinking about that. Next time
Great review! Was the charging handle easier to operate on the 9mm gen 3 model?
100%. Gun is easy peezy
@SMASHTIME hey do you think keltec would ever make a PMR 30 in 5.7 i honestly wish they would take that model and just extend the barrel a bit
Stay tuned for 2025
Try a 25yd zero with the 5.7- it's pretty close to a 25/200 zero. It will only be 5 inches or so high at 150ish and closer to your zero inside that. Zeroing closer puts you higher sooner, and further you loose that secondary zero .
I have it dead on at 40 yards now. I think thats about as far as I will ever shoot
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I bought a gen 2 when they did the rebates and were dirt cheap. I don't really like it. I may sell it and get a s&w fpc.
Gen 3 really feels like a different animal
Add the available rubber butt pad and that hard plastic is no more! Feels great against your shoulder!
Its a non issue with 5.7 If it were 10mm or 9mm then maybe
Nice video....a pluto or switchback suppressor would finish off that gun perfectly. Use a lower moa red dot to be more accurate at 100yds...that did the trick for me.
I was thinking of getting like a 1.5 dot. I just need the money hahaha
Maybe iron sight for 100 yards is better?
A 100yd indoor range?! Wow!
In the texas heat its nice to have AC at 100 yards,
@@SMASHTIME would be nice in Phoenix
Good job -- thanks!
Thank you for watching
I got a gen2 mcarbo version. It's fun to shoot. Its not everyone's cup of tea. Its a strange gun.
Nice video
Thank you sir.
Still doesn't make any sense that they didn't do a CMR-5.7 instead. That platform is perfect for a cartridge like 5.7x28
You never know...
What kind of magazines does this take?
FN 5.7 mags.
I'm on the fence.....I wish it took PSA Rock magazines. But really I like this more than the AR57.
Its pretty sweet.
So when you fold it looks like it twists
yes. much better than the older design
Need in 10mm
Will mag fit anything else?
FN 5.7
lmao love how the kid gave it .2 points extra just because charging handle,which is treated like an mp5 with the slap.
hahahaa.. Ya man you never know with kids what they like or what they will say
It looks to me that it would be rather quiet with a silencer attachment
Oh yes that would be pretty slick indeed
As the 5.7 continues to grow in popularity the price of the ammunition should go down.
Local gun store/pawn shop has a 9mm version. Hmmmmmm????
9mm is good. but in 5.7 its pretty amazing.
Can buy them brand new in 9mm for $249 if you hunt around ....has been like that for years
high cost of ammo and, from what I understand, not reloadable. Not sure why on the reload side. I think the dies are out there
Its super slick
Are these ones doubke stack mags??
No
How is this for lefties? Seems like the ejection would be right in my face
wife shot it lefty and it was good to go. Brass shoots more to the side than back
As soon as i find one under 400 bucks it will be mine l
man that would have to be a heck of a deal. You will enjoy it big time
If that was a body or silhouette at 100 yards it would be a hit.
Thank you. I feel better now hahahaa.. Im still just an OK shot
If they made this & the pistol in 10mm, fed by the same mags, I'd get both!
Awl yea……
Good option for the poors
good for all. I like it a lot and im only semi poor hahaha
Do you have a video on the gen 2?
Yes I did it last year. Just search for it sir
Recoil looks nonexistent
Yes. Feels like airsoft.
5.7x28 still too expensive for my blood.
charge it to your crips
had to
Still cheaper then 5.56 223
hard pass as it uses FN mags....shoulda used either Ruger or PSA mags
should have gone 10mm
5.7 is where its at for sure on this platform
Fiocchi 5.7 works in every gun and is cheap
The cartridge sucks. 510c rocks
I bought some of that federal and it was inconsistent Trump 2024
It was OK but I have heard that also
great job demonstrating that politics is your only personality trait.
that was so unbelievably irrelevant and pointless, but you just had to pointlessly yammer it out anyway, i don't even have anything against trump but being so hypdr political that it's all you do everywhere you go is just a miserable sounding existence, I'd rather be flayed and vivisected, at least that'd be mildly interesting unlike getting obsessed with some strange human who holds influence.... all you hyper political people from all sides seriously need to reevaluate your life and priorities,stop praising people and putting them on a pedestal and just live your life...if you even know what that implies without politics.
Too much money for a gun with plastic in the internals and trigger group. Then spend another 200-300 on upgrades to get rid of the plastic. No thanks. S&W FPC.
S&W aint all that either. Way too much money too. Keltec has been standing up fantastic.
More Kel-tec
trash
Im trying hahaa..
“Best” thing about the Gen 3 is also the WORST thing about the Gen 3…
The twisting barrel… Good idea, poorly executed!
They should’ve made a “ramp” in the hinge to automatically guide the barrel to its home position!
Or more simply made it twist to a stop!
Having to “hunt” for the center position to deploy it is terrible!
Stressful situation, trying to deploy it, and now you have to worry about going past center… So now here you are fumbling around with it if you mess it up…
hmmm... same as drawing from a holster or reloading under stress. If you were to depend on this gun you would have to practice a bit for sure.
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Appreciate you watching bud.