I have worked as a barista for Lavazza in a private event, and have used a Dual Boiler to steam milk and pull espresso(along some Barista Max heat exchangers, but they were used for espresso only) for three days straight, from 9 am to 8 pm, that machine is a BEAST
Had the BES900, which lasted about 5 years with a few small repairs, then motor failed. I bought this 920 about 7 years ago and it hasn’t missed a beat. Just standard cleans and descale.. very happy. Every time I buy beans from my fancy coffee shop I must admit I look enviously at the huge array of fancy looking Italian machines which I could afford no problem, but the practical pig in me says, it’s not broken, it makes great coffee, heats up quick, turns itself on, and is very programmable.. you don’t need anything else 😂
My BDB is over 5 years old. No repairs and it’s my daily driver. It rocks. Manual pre- infusion to one Bar, then full 9 bars until my grams out target is reached. Foolproof steam wand, although the valve is starting to cause some drips from the wand in the off position. I have never modded it. Thanks, Lance!
Pete Russell has a video showing you how to open up the steam wand assembly to flip over the seal in the ball valve. That’s your leak; very common in older BDBs. I flip that seal over once a year and it’s good forever - it just slowly deforms.
I have one of these, and in Australia there is nothing even remotely close at this pricepoint. I bought mine brand new at $780, and at this pricepoint it's simply a no brainer. Fantastic machine.
I’m excited for whatever product Lance is consulting on with Breville/Sage. I feel like Lance knows what the nerds want, and if Breville starts making what the nerds want…what could be better than that? Also, just good for him. That companies are recognizing his value
@@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat Lelit has more commercial-grade parts and is superior than breville. And they also stated that quality will remain the same. Matter of time.
I have seen all your videos using this machine and I am really impressed. When finances allow, I will certainly purchase the same. I have no issues with Breville quality, as I am still using the Barista Express from 2013 without a single fault in these 10 years (in fact, none of my several Breville appliances ever failed, all purchased in the same year). Keep up the great work! I can't wait for the next video.
I just bought a BDB about two months ago based largely on you & Daddy Hoff's earlier recommendations. I appreciate the confirmation that I did the right thing. :) Loving it!
I have a Breville BEP920 for 8 years, a fantastic machine. I estimate I've made about 5000 shots. I've had to change a few washers and just doing a steam valve washer kit ATM. Cheap to buy and easy to service at home, there are plenty of TH-cam videos on servicing these machines.
Have had mine for about 9 years now, and I have to say, you should be comfortable with basic DIY repair if you buy this. I've had to do the solenoid valve repair, which is a really simple repair. Also, I just descaled, and everyone knows about all the problems that could go wrong with descaling. I had to re-open the machine to detach the red wire lead to get it to work again. I've also replaced a few o-rings, although it wasn't necessary. The machine is great and super good value, but you really should be comfortable with manually fixing things.
ive had a dual boiler and niche, partially due to your other video, since Jan, and Iove it! It hits the mix of great quality and nice consumer features to make it just good to use.. And the quick heatup time is amazing
You have an awesome set up. Have you seen the Jleverespresso? Maybe you could check out the videos and let me know. Thank you in advance for your kind reply. 😊😊
Had one for 5 years. Every few months I have to replace o rings on the steam boiler, once had to replace steam ball valve, and once or twice the solenoid 3 way. I love it but I only recommend if you are a little handy.
There are not many dual boiler machines have aesthetics like this. Great to know this is not discontinued and hopefully would come out to explain the descale problems in other machines.
I find the aesthetic to be lacking. It could be smaller first off, there is a lot of empty space in there I assume for the oracle touch components as I believe it uses the same housing cuz, cost.
Your original video plus the fact that you used this machine to explain latte art convinced me to buy it. I've had it for one year and a half and I don't regret it a bit. (And I don't even tried the slayer modification).
Ive had my BDB (which I bought minty second hand) in May of 21... ive had to do a solenoid, stream probes and some seals. I got it for 900 bucks. I still love this machine. The consistency, the stability, the ease of use... i have slayer moded it but wonder if a dimmer is a better idea... this will be my workhorse until Breville releases your edition or I can afford a decent.
Great, great video, always a joy to watch, and as always, you have managed to leave me craving for this machine! It already worked with the Baratza Vario, I bought one and I love it! I watched your previous video on the BDB, and later binge read the home barista forum, then watched just about every video on this machine. And it is all on you. Now I have 2 special orders for you! First you need to figure out a way to mix opera and beat box! Second, you need to find me one of those second hand in good condition and ship it over the pond to me! Of course I'll wire you the money, no need for such an expensive gift! Jokes aside, love your videos! Thanks for taking the time to do this!
I love mine, which I found used after your 1st video, and slayer modded it! ... 2 questions : 1) About the PP, I had to change my solenoid valve (typical and pretty easy) but while prepping I read online "Applying an incorrect voltage to the coil will cause it to fail and may cause the coil to burn out." and wondered if always using it at low PP for the whole shot, or long shots, or whatever, could create problems? ..... 2) even with slayer mod, I find I often don't get a lot of control on the flow. I open it a little for pre-infusion, then even if I open it full, there's not a lot of range for me to ramp up the pressure (it stays the same pretty much wherever I open it too ..) ...not grinding fine enough maybe? THANK YOU SO MUCH, for your channel, for everything you do, and for singing those deliciously long notes! ;)
You glossed over some of the maintenance issues with the BDB, but it really is a concern for many of us. In fact, most coffee repair shops won't even touch them (there is only one location in Seattle that works on these machines). Anyways, I have a Meticulous on order, which has a fraction of the working parts to (hopefully) minimize maintenance costs - so looking forward to selling my BDB real soon.
Yeah the o-rings are a problem and the steam valve. I now can repair almost anything in this machine now, but it took me 2 1/2 month of repairing to get mine up and running.
@@TheMusicDrawer well, I almost made it 4 months before another o-ring went. Sadly, this time I accidentally dropped the pin-clip into the machine trying to replace the o-ring so now I'm screwed. I have no idea what this part is or how to get a new one. Any thoughts?
Wasn't aware that this machine will improve my singing too :). Great voice. I have a Delonghi EC685 which I have to say with beans and non-pressurised basket makes great coffee, plus is a doddle to maintain, but I feel the need for a Dual Boiler!
I have a black dual boiler, I think Ive had mine for 3 years I purchased it broken and repaired it. Duno how old it is, but I bet its getting along. Works perfectly everyday, multiple times a day. My steam want only just started leaking, so I'll have to fix that soon but no bigge :)
Black version of (Sage) BDB has been discontinued according to their online chat service. Also advised no replacement dual boiler is planned to replace it.
Picked mine up for ~$750 Australian dollars. The other machines around the price point were either decent single boilers, with no temp control or straight up garbage machines. When I saw this for the price it was at I had to call the store to check they weren’t missing the extra thousand dollars from the price 😛 Needless to say I started reading my credit card details out before the guy finished explaining that it was the correct price. Easily my favourite purchase in the way of coffee paraphernalia, if not my favourite all round purchase. 10/10 will continue to recommend this machine whenever someone asks about getting a new one, top bloody notch!!!
I had two: in first orings failed after 2 years and steam killed triac board (only idiot can put it over steam boiler!) - I've got refund and bought second one - orings failed after 1 year - I've got a full refund. It had nice features I liked, but they have no experience with reliable engineering.
Makes me love my sunbeam dual boiler even more. Complete under-dog, punches way above its weight for half the money, has preinfusion, warms up even faster than the breville and looks higher quality (imo). Only found it looking for a BDB, so no hate, but the sunbeam deserves a LOT more love than it gets.
Oh thank you, not discontinued! Hoping to buy one for it's good quality/price value for someone who doesn't want to go full scientist with a 5k machine. I had the infuser and had so much fun with it.
Are we sure the dual boiler isn't discontinued? It's out of stock most places, including their own website. Has been for months. I was hoping to upgrade to the dual boiler, but now I want to wait to see what happens. And, come on, Breville, let's get this next one out to market!!
Can you please do a temperature test with the Breville Barista Touch? I have it and feel like it has major temperature issues. Saw a lot of people having the same issue as well. The temperature settings seem to be very inaccurate as well
There's a reason that still to this day at least one person shouts BDB on every single buying advice / upgraditus thread. I think plenty of home baristas (myself included) will always have a soft spot for breville with them being the gateway drug into this rabbit hole of a hobby.
Mine got me through pandemic lockdowns in Melbourne. Eventually learned to make coffee as good as my local cafes. Had to get seals replaced once around the 2 year mark. Frankly i can't afford more than A$1k for a machine so thank God this exists, because any other machine that gives this much control costs thousands in Aus. Will replace with another Breville if it dies, but would love it to be a little more compact if possible.
As your testing showed, the temp can actually build up especially if you do long pre-infusions. That's one of the causes for people to have blown temp probes or leaking fittings on the BDB. Purging the group head after pulling a shot is good practice to prevent overheating as well as keep the temps consistent. Well, people should do that (purging) anyway to clean up the shower screen. That's the first thing I advice people who ask me stuff when they get a BDB.
Man I bought the breville BES 920 because of your review and it is a fantastic machine and with your other superb videos I am slowly learning how to make some great coffee no more coffee shops for me! 😊
Hey Lance, have you seen the paint flaking off the group head under the shower screen? Happens on old and new machines. Not sure how toxic that material is??
If they make a new revision, some upgrades I'd love to see: - 58.5mm tamper standard - Insulated steam wand and remove the rubber handle - Water tank with less nooks and crannies to make it easier to scrub clean - Rotary pump to reduce noise - Modular portafilter to go from naked to spouted (this type of innovation should be up Breville's alley) If they wanted to go next level they could have flow control and a Bluetooth scale built in.
Thanks mate for this video. Really love your way of explaining things. Interesting enough, I was hunting for this machine since April/May, because I missed a big sale of this machine during that time (by the way I am from Australia and when the machine was on sale, post Covid, it dropped to around AUD 900 up or down, insane value I know) but it seems out of stock everywhere with major retailers recently. I asked many staff at the shop and the answer I was given is either‘I don’t know’ or ‘it is discontinued’, but lately I saw the Dynamic Duo (same BES920 with a grinder) is back on the shelf. But hearing you say it is not discontinued, I will keep looking for it. Or maybe it is discontinued in some regions. Anyway, I am excited about the project you are working on the Breville! Also I wanna ask a question if the Oracle Touch worth the shoot, pun intended, because of my not-really-into-the-coffees-world girlfriend 😅
Hey Lance, because of you I picked up The Legendary BDB! And i was much satisfied for the past 6 months, yesterday i tried to upgrade the inner shower screen to stainless steel, but unfortunately with multiple tries, I couldn’t align it perfectly, the water coming from the sides now! I hope you have a tip for install! Thanks
I had the same problem originally, just do not overtighten the screw and also i needed another screw that had a smaller diameter head in order to fit perfeclty in the new showerscreen
In Australia, this machine is around $1000aud and it’s pretty hard to beat at that price point. Sure, it’s a consumable item, but you can easily find one with a 5 year (extended) warranty for sub $1200aud. Which is a pretty good value proposition if you can live with the throw away nature of it. With the feature set at that price point, it’s really hard to go past if you’re shopping in the sub $2000 market
@@marcusannegarn8497 It’s actually a bit of a problem as it’s absurdly reducer price point has devalued it. A lot of people see what it costs and what it offers compared to higher prices prosumer machines and automatically assuming it’s extremely low quality (how else could you offer so much for so little…)
I had the original v1 of this machine and got 7 years out of it before giving it away. More recent versions have fixed a lot of the issues of those early machines.
What an increcible useful and info-rich video! Thanks for making this one. I own a BES900 dual boiler. Love it, but it leaks steam inside. Gotta fix that soon.
Hey Lance, I bought a BDB 900 and contacted breville for repairs and was told than it was discontinued. Maybe the individual was referring to the 900 and not the "upgraded" 920 which has a drainage valve for the boilers. Been working to repair my second hand BDB for about 4 months now, wish me luck!
It's awesome while working,but much more difficult to repair when its needed and descaling is iffy..I've been through 3 steam valves and 2 thermostats in 5 yrs..
Thanks for making this Lance. My knowledge of the home market is not as strong, but it’s so nice knowing you always have excellent content I know is trustworthy.
I was on the lookout for one of these a while ago (Australia), but could not find one brand new standalone for the life of me. Seems to only come with the Breville Smart Grinder, which is a bummer because I've heard there are better grinders from other brands.
I have had my BDB for going on 3yrs. I learned how to dial shots in with my BDB and it makes great espresso. I am not looking forward to replacing parts that fail as the years roll on, but I have kept our 10yo LG washer and dryer running by replacing the occasional small bit here or there. Many of the well thought out features like front loading water (my espresso machine has to sit under a cabinet) and auto on have become mandatory through my experience, so if I ever did need a new espresso machine, it likely would just be another BDB.
Growing up in a household of immigrants we would regularly laugh at mixing/blending idioms. Which is why I especially loved “punching above it’s belt” - welcome to the family @lance 😂❤
I managed to get one early Covid days (figuring I'd be locked up at home for a while, good call :/) for 1100$ CAD on amazon.... what a great buy! I'll admit having issues with the O-rings and more specifically the temp probe in the steam boiler but it's manageable (albeit a bit disappointing 3 years in). The online community and certainly Lance's enthusiasm made me go for this one versus other options. In fact, even today, now that it's twice as expensive (!) there seems to be little to no competition.
Really wish for a little comparison to more affordable options like Barista Express/Pro, whether Dual Boiler is really worth it or can you do fine with Barista Pro at home but otherwise great video!
I got one based off your suggest but had to sell it due to acid reflux problems. I got a used bambino to fill that gap on days im feeling bad. I like how the right to repair law is coming through, i noticed a site in EU already selling parts for the bambino.
Lance, many thanks for this video. I purchased mine originally four years ago, after watching one of your videos. I then recommended it another four times to friends and family I was a little shocked at the comment, regarding not to descale. I de Scale mine every eight weeks - what are your concerns with this? My steam pump does not work anymore - do you think it has something to do with the descaling? I’ve cleaned the steam nozzle, just incase you recommend to clean this Many thanks for reading my comment
Some of the australians think the discontinued thing is a misunderstanding over the newer versions of the bdb with much better fittings/connectors and upgraded bits that have been added since it first came out years ago.
Hi Lance, great video as ever. Entertaining and informative. Thank you. At the start you mentioned that there are now more competitors at or near this price point - it would be great to get your take on what you believe are credible competitors and how they compare. I have possibly one of those - The Lelit Elizabeth. regards, Mark
Hey Lance excited to watch the video. I have an old 15 year old Expobar Office Leva after dozens of home repairs I think I’m finally going to take the chance to upgrade. It’s been great but it’s time for a Dual Boiler. So with that said I’m looking at ECM Synkronika. Do you have any experience with them? Is ECM a great brand to support. I saw your Mechanica Heat Exchanger video and liked the look, and my experience with E61 seems like a great reason to stick with it. Any thoughts?
It’s complicated because most people talking about it here are the sole US distributor for them. Although I’ve very much enjoyed Whole Latte Loves video it’s such a large purchase.
Great video Lance 👌 Quick question please. Steaming milk quickly js really important to me due to a disability I have and how long I can stand for. How quick would this steam milk for a 6.5oz milk drink? And is the Lelit Bianca V3 any quicker? Thanks for your help 🙂
Bit late to the party (apologies) but I wonder if the rumours related to the Dual boiler in black truffle model. I was just about to place an order for one of these for myself from a UK supplier and was informed that only the silver colour is available as the black model has been discontinued. Thank you for your informative and entertaining vids, keep up the great work🙂
I remember about 6 month ago i grabbed on for 200$ that was leaking ... after fixing it i pulled a shot and steam milk and it was soooo nice , i couldnt believe it from a breville machine ... i sold it , but still if i can grab one in the right price/condition i would
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Had mine for 10 years and going strong still.
I’ve had to replace and fix a few things but I’m incredibly happy with my machine.
Great that I could hear your experience :)
I went through 2. They replaced it, repaired it, then refunded me. Worked great while we had it!
Bought a 2nd hand rocket after that
I have worked as a barista for Lavazza in a private event, and have used a Dual Boiler to steam milk and pull espresso(along some Barista Max heat exchangers, but they were used for espresso only) for three days straight, from 9 am to 8 pm, that machine is a BEAST
Had the BES900, which lasted about 5 years with a few small repairs, then motor failed.
I bought this 920 about 7 years ago and it hasn’t missed a beat. Just standard cleans and descale.. very happy.
Every time I buy beans from my fancy coffee shop I must admit I look enviously at the huge array of fancy looking Italian machines which I could afford no problem, but the practical pig in me says, it’s not broken, it makes great coffee, heats up quick, turns itself on, and is very programmable.. you don’t need anything else 😂
My BDB is over 5 years old. No repairs and it’s my daily driver. It rocks. Manual pre- infusion to one Bar, then full 9 bars until my grams out target is reached. Foolproof steam wand, although the valve is starting to cause some drips from the wand in the off position. I have never modded it. Thanks, Lance!
Pete Russell has a video showing you how to open up the steam wand assembly to flip over the seal in the ball valve. That’s your leak; very common in older BDBs. I flip that seal over once a year and it’s good forever - it just slowly deforms.
@@mikkoutevsky3902 thanks for the reply! Can’t find his channel, what is it called?
@@mikkoutevsky3902 hah just found it, thanks.
I have one of these, and in Australia there is nothing even remotely close at this pricepoint. I bought mine brand new at $780, and at this pricepoint it's simply a no brainer. Fantastic machine.
here in the US its still works its way to about 1750+ with shipping and tax. not that cheap over here.
Where did you buy from?
What online stores do you recommend to buy it from?
999 dollars at JB hi fi atm
I got mine with grinder for 120aud used. That's probably 70usd. But I got a san remo 2 group 12ltr boiler for 200 that I'd say is a proper beast.
I’m excited for whatever product Lance is consulting on with Breville/Sage. I feel like Lance knows what the nerds want, and if Breville starts making what the nerds want…what could be better than that? Also, just good for him. That companies are recognizing his value
I’m hoping it’s a Lance x Breville Lineup. That last one off they did for the dual boiler together was STELLAR!
Please release it soon!
Lelit is owned by breville…
@o.c5362 Really? No way. Does Lelit lean toward Breville in quality or does Breville lean towards Lelit? You know what I mean?
@@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat Lelit has more commercial-grade parts and is superior than breville. And they also stated that quality will remain the same. Matter of time.
Breville should bring out a Dual Boiler Pro version that adds flow regulation and maybe a rotary pump
Flow can be adjusted by turning on the hot water switch at the time of making coffee!
I have seen all your videos using this machine and I am really impressed. When finances allow, I will certainly purchase the same. I have no issues with Breville quality, as I am still using the Barista Express from 2013 without a single fault in these 10 years (in fact, none of my several Breville appliances ever failed, all purchased in the same year). Keep up the great work! I can't wait for the next video.
I just bought a BDB about two months ago based largely on you & Daddy Hoff's earlier recommendations. I appreciate the confirmation that I did the right thing. :) Loving it!
@Lance, I'm looking to get a Breville Dual Boiler as my next upgrade and doing the Slayer mod. Would it be worth waiting on future offerings?
I have a Breville BEP920 for 8 years, a fantastic machine. I estimate I've made about 5000 shots. I've had to change a few washers and just doing a steam valve washer kit ATM. Cheap to buy and easy to service at home, there are plenty of TH-cam videos on servicing these machines.
Have had mine for about 9 years now, and I have to say, you should be comfortable with basic DIY repair if you buy this. I've had to do the solenoid valve repair, which is a really simple repair. Also, I just descaled, and everyone knows about all the problems that could go wrong with descaling. I had to re-open the machine to detach the red wire lead to get it to work again. I've also replaced a few o-rings, although it wasn't necessary. The machine is great and super good value, but you really should be comfortable with manually fixing things.
ive had a dual boiler and niche, partially due to your other video, since Jan, and Iove it! It hits the mix of great quality and nice consumer features to make it just good to use.. And the quick heatup time is amazing
You have an awesome set up.
Have you seen the Jleverespresso? Maybe you could check out the videos and let me know. Thank you in advance for your kind reply. 😊😊
Had one for 5 years. Every few months I have to replace o rings on the steam boiler, once had to replace steam ball valve, and once or twice the solenoid 3 way. I love it but I only recommend if you are a little handy.
There are not many dual boiler machines have aesthetics like this. Great to know this is not discontinued and hopefully would come out to explain the descale problems in other machines.
I find the aesthetic to be lacking. It could be smaller first off, there is a lot of empty space in there I assume for the oracle touch components as I believe it uses the same housing cuz, cost.
Your original video plus the fact that you used this machine to explain latte art convinced me to buy it. I've had it for one year and a half and I don't regret it a bit. (And I don't even tried the slayer modification).
Ive had my BDB (which I bought minty second hand) in May of 21... ive had to do a solenoid, stream probes and some seals. I got it for 900 bucks. I still love this machine. The consistency, the stability, the ease of use... i have slayer moded it but wonder if a dimmer is a better idea... this will be my workhorse until Breville releases your edition or I can afford a decent.
I'm getting something else because I can't phathom having to replace those damn seals yearly. The ones on the probes are a nightmare
Great, great video, always a joy to watch, and as always, you have managed to leave me craving for this machine! It already worked with the Baratza Vario, I bought one and I love it! I watched your previous video on the BDB, and later binge read the home barista forum, then watched just about every video on this machine. And it is all on you.
Now I have 2 special orders for you! First you need to figure out a way to mix opera and beat box! Second, you need to find me one of those second hand in good condition and ship it over the pond to me! Of course I'll wire you the money, no need for such an expensive gift!
Jokes aside, love your videos! Thanks for taking the time to do this!
I love mine, which I found used after your 1st video, and slayer modded it! ... 2 questions : 1) About the PP, I had to change my solenoid valve (typical and pretty easy) but while prepping I read online "Applying an incorrect voltage to the coil will cause it to fail and may cause the coil to burn out." and wondered if always using it at low PP for the whole shot, or long shots, or whatever, could create problems? ..... 2) even with slayer mod, I find I often don't get a lot of control on the flow. I open it a little for pre-infusion, then even if I open it full, there's not a lot of range for me to ramp up the pressure (it stays the same pretty much wherever I open it too ..) ...not grinding fine enough maybe? THANK YOU SO MUCH, for your channel, for everything you do, and for singing those deliciously long notes! ;)
You glossed over some of the maintenance issues with the BDB, but it really is a concern for many of us. In fact, most coffee repair shops won't even touch them (there is only one location in Seattle that works on these machines). Anyways, I have a Meticulous on order, which has a fraction of the working parts to (hopefully) minimize maintenance costs - so looking forward to selling my BDB real soon.
Yeah the o-rings are a problem and the steam valve. I now can repair almost anything in this machine now, but it took me 2 1/2 month of repairing to get mine up and running.
@@TheMusicDrawer well, I almost made it 4 months before another o-ring went. Sadly, this time I accidentally dropped the pin-clip into the machine trying to replace the o-ring so now I'm screwed. I have no idea what this part is or how to get a new one. Any thoughts?
Home espresso repair up on phinney?
@@SyphriXI’ve contacted them before and they don’t touch Brevilles. There’s a guy down in Gig Harbor who will repair them and he’s quite affordable.
@@LatteDude1Take the tank out, turn the machine upside down, and shake it. Your U Clip should fall out.
Wasn't aware that this machine will improve my singing too :). Great voice. I have a Delonghi EC685 which I have to say with beans and non-pressurised basket makes great coffee, plus is a doddle to maintain, but I feel the need for a Dual Boiler!
Appreciate the fan service with Hugo, the singing, the texture test...
I hope you know that caffeine effect baldness in men !! I had hair before I bought my Breville !!
It's wild that espresso machines cost that much. It's just valves and boilers and a logic controller with basic software
I can’t wait for this new machine that you have been consulting on, I know it’s gonna have flow control
I have a black dual boiler, I think Ive had mine for 3 years I purchased it broken and repaired it. Duno how old it is, but I bet its getting along. Works perfectly everyday, multiple times a day. My steam want only just started leaking, so I'll have to fix that soon but no bigge :)
Black version of (Sage) BDB has been discontinued according to their online chat service. Also advised no replacement dual boiler is planned to replace it.
Picked mine up for ~$750 Australian dollars. The other machines around the price point were either decent single boilers, with no temp control or straight up garbage machines. When I saw this for the price it was at I had to call the store to check they weren’t missing the extra thousand dollars from the price 😛
Needless to say I started reading my credit card details out before the guy finished explaining that it was the correct price.
Easily my favourite purchase in the way of coffee paraphernalia, if not my favourite all round purchase. 10/10 will continue to recommend this machine whenever someone asks about getting a new one, top bloody notch!!!
Where did you get it from?
Just replaced all of the o-rings on mine after 5 years of use and its back in production.
I had two: in first orings failed after 2 years and steam killed triac board (only idiot can put it over steam boiler!) - I've got refund and bought second one - orings failed after 1 year - I've got a full refund. It had nice features I liked, but they have no experience with reliable engineering.
Makes me love my sunbeam dual boiler even more. Complete under-dog, punches way above its weight for half the money, has preinfusion, warms up even faster than the breville and looks higher quality (imo).
Only found it looking for a BDB, so no hate, but the sunbeam deserves a LOT more love than it gets.
Oh thank you, not discontinued! Hoping to buy one for it's good quality/price value for someone who doesn't want to go full scientist with a 5k machine. I had the infuser and had so much fun with it.
glad i found your channel! really great content :)
The end of the video this guy is a legend 😂
Are we sure the dual boiler isn't discontinued? It's out of stock most places, including their own website. Has been for months. I was hoping to upgrade to the dual boiler, but now I want to wait to see what happens. And, come on, Breville, let's get this next one out to market!!
Can you please do a temperature test with the Breville Barista Touch? I have it and feel like it has major temperature issues. Saw a lot of people having the same issue as well. The temperature settings seem to be very inaccurate as well
I agree. I sold mine and upgrade to the Breville Dual Boiler and haven’t looked back.
Great content. Thank you. Where can I buy the Breville Dual Boiler online? Their website says there is no available product.
I run the Breville Pro… looks like a nice machine.
I wouldn't be mad if you released a video on pre-infusion
Thanks Lance,great machine too
There's a reason that still to this day at least one person shouts BDB on every single buying advice / upgraditus thread. I think plenty of home baristas (myself included) will always have a soft spot for breville with them being the gateway drug into this rabbit hole of a hobby.
Can’t wait for Breville to make what I have to believe is a soon to be made successor to this unit. Still rocking the Breville Duo Temp.
Mine got me through pandemic lockdowns in Melbourne. Eventually learned to make coffee as good as my local cafes. Had to get seals replaced once around the 2 year mark.
Frankly i can't afford more than A$1k for a machine so thank God this exists, because any other machine that gives this much control costs thousands in Aus.
Will replace with another Breville if it dies, but would love it to be a little more compact if possible.
As your testing showed, the temp can actually build up especially if you do long pre-infusions. That's one of the causes for people to have blown temp probes or leaking fittings on the BDB. Purging the group head after pulling a shot is good practice to prevent overheating as well as keep the temps consistent. Well, people should do that (purging) anyway to clean up the shower screen. That's the first thing I advice people who ask me stuff when they get a BDB.
Man I bought the breville BES 920 because of your review and it is a fantastic machine and with your other superb videos I am slowly learning how to make some great coffee no more coffee shops for me! 😊
Amazing...The Brazilian coffee made you sing like an Italian...must be a fantastic espresso machine...
Thank you so much, I am learning a lot from your videos. I am a beginner, looking into the dual boiler machines.
Hey Lance, have you seen the paint flaking off the group head under the shower screen? Happens on old and new machines. Not sure how toxic that material is??
parts readily available would be so great. i’ve been repairing mine with lots of help from home barista forums, but it’s a pain.
same. i finally had to replace that side fitting o-ring on the steam boiler. not sure i'll push my luck and try that again.
If they make a new revision, some upgrades I'd love to see:
- 58.5mm tamper standard
- Insulated steam wand and remove the rubber handle
- Water tank with less nooks and crannies to make it easier to scrub clean
- Rotary pump to reduce noise
- Modular portafilter to go from naked to spouted (this type of innovation should be up Breville's alley)
If they wanted to go next level they could have flow control and a Bluetooth scale built in.
And a real tamper for that price, not that plastic one.
Those upgrades would make the price goes up in the sky, wouldn't it? ☕
buy yourself a pesado hybrid portafilter, basket and tamper.
Thanks mate for this video. Really love your way of explaining things. Interesting enough, I was hunting for this machine since April/May, because I missed a big sale of this machine during that time (by the way I am from Australia and when the machine was on sale, post Covid, it dropped to around AUD 900 up or down, insane value I know) but it seems out of stock everywhere with major retailers recently. I asked many staff at the shop and the answer I was given is either‘I don’t know’ or ‘it is discontinued’, but lately I saw the Dynamic Duo (same BES920 with a grinder) is back on the shelf. But hearing you say it is not discontinued, I will keep looking for it. Or maybe it is discontinued in some regions. Anyway, I am excited about the project you are working on the Breville! Also I wanna ask a question if the Oracle Touch worth the shoot, pun intended, because of my not-really-into-the-coffees-world girlfriend 😅
Thanks Lance, I love my Breville Dual Boiler. 😊
That was impressive!! Great pipes!
And the machine and the coffee and all that as great aswell... xD
If it’s anything like that custom machine breville made for Lance with rotary pump and flow control, that’ll be sick!!
I got one of these for $400aud second hand from a guy who repairs them. Love it so much
Come for the review, stay for that wonderful VIBRATO! Thanks for affirming my commitment to this machine Lance.
Pretty nuts, $999 in Australia at the moment. That's $680 USD
nice lever line up on the side! looking foreward to seeing you use the vectis!
Respect your balanced views Lance. Thanks for this!
Hey Lance, because of you I picked up The Legendary BDB! And i was much satisfied for the past 6 months, yesterday i tried to upgrade the inner shower screen to stainless steel, but unfortunately with multiple tries, I couldn’t align it perfectly, the water coming from the sides now!
I hope you have a tip for install!
Thanks
I had the same problem originally, just do not overtighten the screw and also i needed another screw that had a smaller diameter head in order to fit perfeclty in the new showerscreen
That's reassuring, I ordered a Sage DB last week!
In Australia, this machine is around $1000aud and it’s pretty hard to beat at that price point.
Sure, it’s a consumable item, but you can easily find one with a 5 year (extended) warranty for sub $1200aud. Which is a pretty good value proposition if you can live with the throw away nature of it.
With the feature set at that price point, it’s really hard to go past if you’re shopping in the sub $2000 market
I see them go for craaaazy low priced on the used market in Australia too
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Oh, yeah, you can pick one up for a couple hundred dollars with less than 500 shots on it
In Australia I actually see no reason to get any other machine.
That price is absolutely absurd.
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It’s actually a bit of a problem as it’s absurdly reducer price point has devalued it. A lot of people see what it costs and what it offers compared to higher prices prosumer machines and automatically assuming it’s extremely low quality (how else could you offer so much for so little…)
I had the original v1 of this machine and got 7 years out of it before giving it away. More recent versions have fixed a lot of the issues of those early machines.
love my BDB. and not to forget that milk video by you, it taught me a lot!!! thank you Lance for your contents!
What an increcible useful and info-rich video! Thanks for making this one. I own a BES900 dual boiler. Love it, but it leaks steam inside. Gotta fix that soon.
I figured. It's a good product and it needed a refresh. Was just thinking about this last week.
Can you heat / warm cups on the top of the unit ?
Hey Lance, I bought a BDB 900 and contacted breville for repairs and was told than it was discontinued. Maybe the individual was referring to the 900 and not the "upgraded" 920 which has a drainage valve for the boilers. Been working to repair my second hand BDB for about 4 months now, wish me luck!
The BES900xl has been long discontinued. I dont' think that was the reference of the post.
Breville Express Impress deep dive next? 🤗 unsure of how to dial in outside of grind size. Thank you for all these videos 🤍🥳
I bloody love my dual boiler !!!!!!
It's awesome while working,but much more difficult to repair when its needed and descaling is iffy..I've been through 3 steam valves and 2 thermostats in 5 yrs..
How come the pressure jumps to 10.5 on extraction after pre-infusion?
Lance you're hilarious! The singing was so funny 😆 I want more!
Links to the BDB community? I just bought mine coming from a Barista Pro and I want to master this one.
Thanks and great videos bro.
Thanks for making this Lance. My knowledge of the home market is not as strong, but it’s so nice knowing you always have excellent content I know is trustworthy.
Hey Lance love your work !!
I was on the lookout for one of these a while ago (Australia), but could not find one brand new standalone for the life of me. Seems to only come with the Breville Smart Grinder, which is a bummer because I've heard there are better grinders from other brands.
Same as New Zealand.
😮my f bought a standalone on July this year at DJ. U may look at the end of this year around Christmas. The retailer may have a sale
Was the consultation project the Oracle jet?
No
@@LanceHedrick you need to review that one next that thing is bad ass
@@teslatalk42069 just got one today
@@LanceHedrick now that’s what I’m talkin’ about!!
I have had my BDB for going on 3yrs. I learned how to dial shots in with my BDB and it makes great espresso. I am not looking forward to replacing parts that fail as the years roll on, but I have kept our 10yo LG washer and dryer running by replacing the occasional small bit here or there.
Many of the well thought out features like front loading water (my espresso machine has to sit under a cabinet) and auto on have become mandatory through my experience, so if I ever did need a new espresso machine, it likely would just be another BDB.
buy some cheap #7 and #10 o-rings, change them out every 2 years, mine's at 8th
@@pinkysweets I just did this. I had three leaks on the steam probes. Fixed it perfectly, thanks.
Growing up in a household of immigrants we would regularly laugh at mixing/blending idioms. Which is why I especially loved “punching above it’s belt” - welcome to the family @lance 😂❤
Had a chuckle at this too but he righted himself on the third try
I managed to get one early Covid days (figuring I'd be locked up at home for a while, good call :/) for 1100$ CAD on amazon.... what a great buy! I'll admit having issues with the O-rings and more specifically the temp probe in the steam boiler but it's manageable (albeit a bit disappointing 3 years in). The online community and certainly Lance's enthusiasm made me go for this one versus other options. In fact, even today, now that it's twice as expensive (!) there seems to be little to no competition.
You're amazing!
Really wish for a little comparison to more affordable options like Barista Express/Pro, whether Dual Boiler is really worth it or can you do fine with Barista Pro at home but otherwise great video!
I got one based off your suggest but had to sell it due to acid reflux problems. I got a used bambino to fill that gap on days im feeling bad. I like how the right to repair law is coming through, i noticed a site in EU already selling parts for the bambino.
Lance, many thanks for this video. I purchased mine originally four years ago, after watching one of your videos. I
then recommended it another four times to friends and family
I was a little shocked at the comment, regarding not to descale. I de Scale mine every eight weeks - what are your concerns with this?
My steam pump does not work anymore - do you think it has something to do with the descaling? I’ve cleaned the steam nozzle, just incase you recommend to clean this
Many thanks for reading my comment
the texture test though 🥰
Just picked a second hand one up in Australia. This machine is incredible!
Some of the australians think the discontinued thing is a misunderstanding over the newer versions of the bdb with much better fittings/connectors and upgraded bits that have been added since it first came out years ago.
Yay Australia!!
Eager to hear your thoughts on the Vectis. Have been loving mine so far!
I also think it looks gorgeous in red or black [I have black]. And it's not insanely heavy like all e61 machines.
Hi Lance, great video as ever. Entertaining and informative. Thank you. At the start you mentioned that there are now more competitors at or near this price point - it would be great to get your take on what you believe are credible competitors and how they compare. I have possibly one of those - The Lelit Elizabeth. regards, Mark
I want a dual boiler, I think. Have you looked at the Lelit Elizabeth? I think it is comparable to this. Though I believe Breville now owns Lelit...
Hey Lance excited to watch the video. I have an old 15 year old Expobar Office Leva after dozens of home repairs I think I’m finally going to take the chance to upgrade. It’s been great but it’s time for a Dual Boiler. So with that said I’m looking at ECM Synkronika. Do you have any experience with them? Is ECM a great brand to support. I saw your Mechanica Heat Exchanger video and liked the look, and my experience with E61 seems like a great reason to stick with it. Any thoughts?
It’s complicated because most people talking about it here are the sole US distributor for them. Although I’ve very much enjoyed Whole Latte Loves video it’s such a large purchase.
Lance, when you do a long preinfusion like you suggested in this video of preinfusion till 5g…do you still shoot for under 30 seconds?
Great video Lance 👌 Quick question please. Steaming milk quickly js really important to me due to a disability I have and how long I can stand for. How quick would this steam milk for a 6.5oz milk drink? And is the Lelit Bianca V3 any quicker? Thanks for your help 🙂
With the reversible slayer mod, the shot was unbeatable. ♥️♥️♥️
Bit late to the party (apologies) but I wonder if the rumours related to the Dual boiler in black truffle model. I was just about to place an order for one of these for myself from a UK supplier and was informed that only the silver colour is available as the black model has been discontinued. Thank you for your informative and entertaining vids, keep up the great work🙂
It's what I've wanted for a couple years now, one day I will afford it 😌 although I'm very curious about what you're working on with them 👀
Lance low key pointing with the middle finger. Nice.
I remember about 6 month ago i grabbed on for 200$ that was leaking ... after fixing it i pulled a shot and steam milk and it was soooo nice , i couldnt believe it from a breville machine ... i sold it , but still if i can grab one in the right price/condition i would
I love it, the only thing really bothers me is the non insulated steam wand, i burned my fingers a few times already on it..