i love nana mori, i do hope if the bells hells surive what ever madness there is to come. they invite their firends all to have a party at nans's. its just, the hells outside maybe kylith dont really have any friends
This really episode really made me question the morals of the party and what ends they are willing to do to reach their goals. From attempting to blame Ludinus for their actions, to killing Zathuda, coercing his mount, ignoring requests to not have him die in means of keeping his mount, and willingly agreeing to defile a corpse and use it as exposition. This party has many lows but taking someone to a fey torture chamber has to be a new low and anytime they criticize Ludinus they might have to look in the mirror for a second.
@@ZodiacBandit What did they gain from putting Zathuda through The Loom tho, outside of twisted satisfaction xD? Also Fern: And now you lost your last chance to get to know me. Zathuda: I tried. Funny thing, this is actually true! Literally in the last episode, Zathuda was willing to take Fern with him and they WOULD go together if not for Imogen immediately using it as a chance to hit him. It's also not as if he was unforgivable in the eyes of the party. During the entire raid THEY COOPERATED WITH A LITERAL MAD SCIENTIST THAT WAS KNOWN TO EXPERIMENT ON CHILDREN.
@@ZodiacBandit and also, from couple clues Nana Mori is above Ludi powers and fighting with her could kill couple people in a party. Never fuck with fey hag. . . 😵
@@mikonyx7712 They thought he’d have useful information out of him and while they did it wasn’t worth what happened but you gotta remember he’s a piece of shit anyway
"Dissapearing Exaltians" and what if Ludinus is sucking them through some device to have their powers to connect Predathos? And became a vessel himself? We know that he had device before which allowed him to have permanent something after death by being sucked. 🤔😵😳 That would explain why he needs so many of them?
@@ZodiacBandit 😁 I was just listening and a little pisses after ArchAsshole speech and it just hits me. He uses similacrum in every place that is not worth his attention. He has soooo much Rudiusborns and in one episodes it was mention that he is forcing them to exalt. And we all know that he is absolutly jealous about their connection to Predathos. And it just hits me "what if? "
Dorian's stance on the plan is understandable as it was a god that killed his brother through his friend. And that was what a week or 2 ago for him. Ashton should be one of the most against it seeing how FCG died for his friends, how close he is to Fearne and she might died for this to happen, how Imogen might died for this to happen. I really don't know what Ashton's thought process is here.
If they do free Prodathos, and the Gods are destroyed or flee, I wonder what FCG would think about the group. I also wonder how FCG would feel about the fact that his sacrifice saved the ones that would bring about the end of the gods and that had he not done that the gods would still be around?
I am absolutly dissapointed with Ashton, i was like "WTF? " He was so agaonst gods, bwcause they never done anything for him and now when Archasshole gave them "proposition" to chase them avay SACRIFICING probanly his friend Imogen and / or Fearne who he is in love with. . . I am out of words. He should be first against this stupid idea. For whole part of campaign when Ludnius plan was revelaled I was: - elf is a fucking crazy mage and should be stopped, no matter what and how his plan is going - gods? If we have to save them to stop Ludnius ok, but it is not a priority - there are people who belives in god and there are people who don't belive and that is ok - even after Aeor record I was more into my point of view - they done what they need and they tried to do it with min victims, only because crazy lady mage they destroyed a city and still I wasn't a fan of killing gods - Ludnius reason for it - a bum child who can't move in and grow up about a grudge from over a thousnad years ago One sentence of Archasshole made me change my mind. "You are not worth Predathos attention, you are dust and we want run and you will move on" WHAT? They are in a middle of crazy war because they know so little about Rudnius people, thry have fucking Ludi who want to end world and they are just "do this or we will start next Calamity". How many years it will take people to move on? And in this circumstances, there is no sure that they won't blame each other for gods absence and it can make even bigger war. In that moment I was " Fuck godds, you don't deserve saving".
A lot and most are not interchangeable. Of the vast population of Exandria, Rudius, and the Realms even 10-20 percent is a massive amount of people but far from the majority.
I wanted Ferne to get upset at the group for them trying to have her sympathize or feel empathy for her Father. You know, the same one who tricked her into battling a dark version of herself in the hellcatch region. The one who would of killed any of her friends to get what he wanted. He wasn't worth saving my opinion, she has no love for him and decided this was his fate. No issues with that choice she made.
Honestly all of these "ends justify the means" protagonists in recent media are nauseating. Morals matter. Only very, VERY smart and wise people can allow themselves to forgo morals on occasion, and that's not what happens in most of these representations. Having good-aligned protagonists is the rebellion, anti-heroes have become such a cliché. Sad to say this is boring me. Also the "misfit" archetype started with the noble purpose of teaching not to judge a book by its cover. Now it's just weird for the sake of being weird.
@@8Smoker8 oh I’m getting bored of characters not being heros anymore as well I miss the days where people looked up to characters like Optimus Prime a protector and hero he did it for others not himself now everyone wants to be batman dark and having their own code of justice that is better then the rules of society and shit I want more of my boy Optimus Prime less Batman
IMO, yes. 100%. Logically thinking it diminishes the power of the gods to make them 'mortal'. It would take the entity Predathos (a eater or consumer of gods), with god powers to consume that power in the first place, and reduce him to a mortal level. Anything reduced and then eliminated (mathmatically) to zero, equals solved. Maybe that sounds right?
I'm about as cool with this episode as I was when they attacked the temple of the Dawn Father and Breaus is going down the road of Vespin Clorus he's so stupid.
Forgive me as I fell asleep in right around the time of their little show, but I thought in the last episode, Laudna disintegrated one of Zethuda’s legs. How was he running away when he got lose? Or did I miss something?
@@ZodiacBanditlol, that’s fair. But now imagine that same scene but that mook is hopping away on one leg and Chet net drops him with the same chisel throw.
Simple Matt forgot that happened and it is their game if they don’t care about how death saves work why should we worry about it it’s literally 2 seconds of a conversation then they moved on being raw to the game isn’t great either there’s a bunch of meh rules that why they are updating the rules
@@soldier660 I hear you. "Home brews" are still modified D&D but the rules are baselines that are normally followed. That's why if you watch Campaign 1 CR, that is WAY more baseline rules, then in Campaign 2 and 3 it gets further and further away. No joke...you can see it.
It doesn't strictly matter, but Geas is from Gaelic folklore and so the Gaelic pronunciation is closer to "gesh". Good video!
i love nana mori, i do hope if the bells hells surive what ever madness there is to come. they invite their firends all to have a party at nans's. its just, the hells outside maybe kylith dont really have any friends
This really episode really made me question the morals of the party and what ends they are willing to do to reach their goals. From attempting to blame Ludinus for their actions, to killing Zathuda, coercing his mount, ignoring requests to not have him die in means of keeping his mount, and willingly agreeing to defile a corpse and use it as exposition. This party has many lows but taking someone to a fey torture chamber has to be a new low and anytime they criticize Ludinus they might have to look in the mirror for a second.
No one in the group with the exception of Orym has a high moral code. The are likely Natural Evil in alignment by now.
@@VeryAbsurd I think the way they are looking at it is from the idea of doing whatever it takes to get done as the enemy will do the same
@@ZodiacBandit What did they gain from putting Zathuda through The Loom tho, outside of twisted satisfaction xD?
Also
Fern: And now you lost your last chance to get to know me.
Zathuda: I tried.
Funny thing, this is actually true! Literally in the last episode, Zathuda was willing to take Fern with him and they WOULD go together if not for Imogen immediately using it as a chance to hit him.
It's also not as if he was unforgivable in the eyes of the party. During the entire raid THEY COOPERATED WITH A LITERAL MAD SCIENTIST THAT WAS KNOWN TO EXPERIMENT ON CHILDREN.
@@ZodiacBandit and also, from couple clues Nana Mori is above Ludi powers and fighting with her could kill couple people in a party.
Never fuck with fey hag. . . 😵
@@mikonyx7712 They thought he’d have useful information out of him and while they did it wasn’t worth what happened but you gotta remember he’s a piece of shit anyway
I really like these recaps. Thank you so much. You are doing a great job and put it in a very concise manner :)
@@kunallilani9189 sometime I feel like these are to long and I could cut them down more so I’m glad you like them
I'm not angry Bells Hells, I'm disappointed.
😂😂
And Fearne was so worried about going Dark Fearne then acts like a maniac & ORYM going to extreme measures when he used to preach moderation...
I was so unsettled by the entire Loom process and the aftermath. Honestly, well CR, I'm not easily disturbed or unsettled.
@@Jeremy-en5vv I think it’s the idea of a weaved flesh tapestry that gets me not the process itself
It's the imagery of both for me. Body horror doesn't usually get me, but when it does it really gets me lol
"Dissapearing Exaltians" and what if Ludinus is sucking them through some device to have their powers to connect Predathos? And became a vessel himself?
We know that he had device before which allowed him to have permanent something after death by being sucked.
🤔😵😳
That would explain why he needs so many of them?
@@voilav2890 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I need to somehow make this a video I like this idea alot time for some research
@@ZodiacBandit 😁
I was just listening and a little pisses after ArchAsshole speech and it just hits me.
He uses similacrum in every place that is not worth his attention.
He has soooo much Rudiusborns and in one episodes it was mention that he is forcing them to exalt.
And we all know that he is absolutly jealous about their connection to Predathos.
And it just hits me "what if? "
Dorian's stance on the plan is understandable as it was a god that killed his brother through his friend. And that was what a week or 2 ago for him.
Ashton should be one of the most against it seeing how FCG died for his friends, how close he is to Fearne and she might died for this to happen, how Imogen might died for this to happen. I really don't know what Ashton's thought process is here.
@@shadowhell8378 yea it’s hard to really understand Ashton right now I don’t agree with him at all Dorian I get
If they do free Prodathos, and the Gods are destroyed or flee, I wonder what FCG would think about the group. I also wonder how FCG would feel about the fact that his sacrifice saved the ones that would bring about the end of the gods and that had he not done that the gods would still be around?
@@matthewlaird5235 damn that’s a brutal thought
I am absolutly dissapointed with Ashton, i was like "WTF? "
He was so agaonst gods, bwcause they never done anything for him and now when Archasshole gave them "proposition" to chase them avay SACRIFICING probanly his friend Imogen and / or Fearne who he is in love with. . . I am out of words.
He should be first against this stupid idea.
For whole part of campaign when Ludnius plan was revelaled I was:
- elf is a fucking crazy mage and should be stopped, no matter what and how his plan is going
- gods? If we have to save them to stop Ludnius ok, but it is not a priority
- there are people who belives in god and there are people who don't belive and that is ok
- even after Aeor record I was more into my point of view - they done what they need and they tried to do it with min victims, only because crazy lady mage they destroyed a city and still I wasn't a fan of killing gods
- Ludnius reason for it - a bum child who can't move in and grow up about a grudge from over a thousnad years ago
One sentence of Archasshole made me change my mind.
"You are not worth Predathos attention, you are dust and we want run and you will move on"
WHAT?
They are in a middle of crazy war because they know so little about Rudnius people, thry have fucking Ludi who want to end world and they are just "do this or we will start next Calamity".
How many years it will take people to move on?
And in this circumstances, there is no sure that they won't blame each other for gods absence and it can make even bigger war.
In that moment I was " Fuck godds, you don't deserve saving".
A lot and most are not interchangeable. Of the vast population of Exandria, Rudius, and the Realms even 10-20 percent is a massive amount of people but far from the majority.
I wanted Ferne to get upset at the group for them trying to have her sympathize or feel empathy for her Father. You know, the same one who tricked her into battling a dark version of herself in the hellcatch region. The one who would of killed any of her friends to get what he wanted. He wasn't worth saving my opinion, she has no love for him and decided this was his fate. No issues with that choice she made.
I have usually heard Geas pronounced ‘gaysh’
@@ReverseUnicorn apparently people were mad at him saying it that way I say to each their own
First wildly dark episode
@@treyrobertson7187 the loom is wild to me lol
💀 nasty, at least we got to see the dark Fey, bells hells seems to fit in, but I’m with orym at the end of the day
@@treyrobertson7187 100%
Honestly all of these "ends justify the means" protagonists in recent media are nauseating. Morals matter. Only very, VERY smart and wise people can allow themselves to forgo morals on occasion, and that's not what happens in most of these representations.
Having good-aligned protagonists is the rebellion, anti-heroes have become such a cliché. Sad to say this is boring me.
Also the "misfit" archetype started with the noble purpose of teaching not to judge a book by its cover. Now it's just weird for the sake of being weird.
@@8Smoker8 oh I’m getting bored of characters not being heros anymore as well
I miss the days where people looked up to characters like Optimus Prime a protector and hero he did it for others not himself
now everyone wants to be batman dark and having their own code of justice that is better then the rules of society and shit
I want more of my boy Optimus Prime less Batman
@@ZodiacBandit Exactly :/
Okay, quick question: COULD THE AEORIAN WEAPON KILL PREDATHOS?
@@TheDrMike25 probably
IMO, yes. 100%. Logically thinking it diminishes the power of the gods to make them 'mortal'. It would take the entity Predathos (a eater or consumer of gods), with god powers to consume that power in the first place, and reduce him to a mortal level. Anything reduced and then eliminated (mathmatically) to zero, equals solved. Maybe that sounds right?
I'm about as cool with this episode as I was when they attacked the temple of the Dawn Father and Breaus is going down the road of Vespin Clorus he's so stupid.
@@jenny_of_oldstones3523 damn those who don’t know their history are bound to repeat it Braius Doomseed will be the new Vespin Clorus
@@ZodiacBandit 😳😳😳
Right, now Asmodeus knows what can happen and he will probably want to surviving by taking an Avatar 🤔🤔🤔
Bells Hells defiled a body, and are headed to the Matron, god I hope this has ramifications for their encounter
@@Snooki977 i mean they didn’t nana did but I agree this’ll come into play somehow
@@ZodiacBanditShe did it at their request.
@@angelagranger760 very true
Forgive me as I fell asleep in right around the time of their little show, but I thought in the last episode, Laudna disintegrated one of Zethuda’s legs. How was he running away when he got lose? Or did I miss something?
@@Sandsquid21 well shit stuff can be forgotten they do take a week maybe more before recording stuff like that can slip through the cracks
@@ZodiacBandit ok, thank you so much! I thought I was going crazy and misremembering
@@Sandsquid21 honestly I’m glad the forgot the visual of Zathuda running away and Chetney throwing his chisel kills me lol
@@ZodiacBanditlol, that’s fair. But now imagine that same scene but that mook is hopping away on one leg and Chet net drops him with the same chisel throw.
@@Sandsquid21 that’s pretty good to lol
How did Zathuda run without a leg ? Also 11:14 dont say that, have to try to be Raw as possible no offense,
21:32, Thats fey for you XD !!!
Simple Matt forgot that happened and it is their game if they don’t care about how death saves work why should we worry about it it’s literally 2 seconds of a conversation then they moved on being raw to the game isn’t great either there’s a bunch of meh rules that why they are updating the rules
@@ZodiacBandit Nah Dont agree, have to always try to follow the rules, be D&D be any other system, but he died anyone so dont matter,
@@soldier660 I hear you. "Home brews" are still modified D&D but the rules are baselines that are normally followed. That's why if you watch Campaign 1 CR, that is WAY more baseline rules, then in Campaign 2 and 3 it gets further and further away. No joke...you can see it.