Pat Hanlon reached out to chat with Bobby Skinner, and Bobby told Hanlon that he would continue speaking his mind. Hanlon told Skinner that Talking Giants would no longer be given any perks by the Giants organisation. What it tells us is that they are ready to hold onto Joe Schoen, and the PR department doesn't want to see content creators to speak against their "plans". If they decide to keep that failure Schoen the voices against Schoen will get much louder, along with the planes flying over MetLife with Mara messages. The Giants do not like seeing that, but they brought it on themselves by hiring bad people to fill positions within their organisation.
Y’all complain to much we all hurt when they lose but to not give them a chance is crazy y’all was jock riding when we went to the playoffs the first year now we are going through growing pains y’all crying smh no patience
@calvininswoodjr272 Y'all are too complacent about sticking with a GM that is OBJECTIVELY BAD, for the sake of being patient 🙄 . I guess Reese and Gettleman didn't get enough time to ruin the team any further so we'll just stick with this really bad GM because we want to be patient LOL
@ it’s only been 3 years look at the average age of the players on the team they are young this is not a win now project this is I’m changing this for now and the future exhibit some patience and watch them grow
@ on top of that everyone calling for their heads must have a replacement in mind if you don’t have a viable replacement y’all should be quiet and patient and just watch
I disagree with Bobby I think giants should keep them but at the same time Bobby has every right to give his opinion and he made some good points i just think they should be given a chance to draft their own quarterback I just don't like constantly changing GM coaches every 2 or 3 years Bobby points were good points though i respect his opinion Giants have no right to try to shut him down
Big D I think you are spot on in your assessment that Giants want to keep GM Joe Schoen. I suppose you can make a case either way, but I think that Mara and Tisch need to save some face and don’t want to look so bad in the mess they created. So by dumping Dabs they can at least make him the sacrificial lamb and claim that Joe S was the right GM for their rebuild. If you look from this standpoint you can see why ownership wants to keep GM.
I'm still disgusted with the look on his face and body language of disrespect he had with saquan. We wouldn't have seen that if it wasn't for hard knocks.. I would still keep coach tho
@Tyairmorris I think he a good coach, but it is malpractice keeping a coach and firing a gm. So unfotunatly he has to go as well. Unless we hire Brandon Brown.
At this point bro they can do whatever they want. If they want to keep Joe and expect some kind of dramatic change good luck with that, but let me be clear so that there is no misunderstanding what they expect and what they are going to get are two different things. Maybe one day they will figure it out…..
Heavyboxing championship boxing this weekend. Same now with Big BLue, we got Joe Shame vs No Shame. Really amateur hour stuff from the Giants! This whole situation is a microcosm of why the GIants are THIS bad. Excuses, covering their own ass, throwing others under the bus, nepotism. ITS ALL RED HERRINGS…TOTAL JUNK!
Incorrect. They aren't trying to get rid of either. They like the fact that schoen modernized the operations of the front office, and they haven't forgotten daboll is 2 seasons removed from coach of the year. Impatient fans want to "blow it up," but I bet the owners want to stick it out.
I really do think both will be back. I'd say there's a 75% chance they both return. The only reason I wouldn't go higher is because I do believe all the negative media has to give Mara pause. Ultimately, he wants to retain both and possibly use Bowen as the scapegoat.
I was so so so pissed when we passed on him last year. Kid has a rocket for an arm is dealy accurate and eveb ran a damn 4.46 40!!! Wtf more you want in a QB
You're 100% right I see it too they trying to keep Joe I remember that press conference when he did it and he basically blame Brian he threw him under the bus the writing was on the wall since the bye week they're trying to get rid of the coach and keep that trash GM
Absolutely the PR from the Giants contracting Talking Giants about his Joe Scheon video and was upset about it tells all of us Schoen is being brought back. Now I wondering if Talking Giants do another video about firing Brian Daboll would the Giants PR would not like this video either? I agee Big Dash, Scheon and Daboll need to go. By year 3 they should be further along. Possibly finishing 2-15 with no division or home wins is rock's bottom. Not what it should be in year 3 of a rebuild.
I saw Pat Hanlon on the tv years ago. You know he refuses to speak out because he would lose his job. Like Michael Kay, the Yankess yes man so is Hanlon, and any Giants employee refuses to say any wrong.
LETS LEAVE. DABOLL ALONE!! LET HIM COACH THIS TEAM UNTIL THE END OF HIS CONTRACT! LET DABOLL COACH, HE IS A GOOD COACH! GIANTS WILL BE BETTER NEXT SEASON!
If the Giants keep Daboll and they looks like crap at the start of the season, do you think the fans at MetLife will sit on their hands and not demand his removal?
This team's ownership and management is panicking, you can see it and you can almost taste it. Any time they try and control the conversation it's a very bad look.
If that’s true fam I don’t have any faith and belief on John Mara nor Steve Tisch moving forward because we need a clean house I don’t need them to half way clean that’s not going to cut it for me and giants fans who feel the same way.
Daboll has done a better job with the crappy roster he has now has he done a good job not really i’m not opposed to firing Daboll but u need to get rid of both not keep the guy who’s worse at his job bc he’s in a higher position
Yo Dash I agree that both Schoen and Daboll need to go….however if I had a choice I’d rather have Daboll go.. I do not like him as a HC and never have..He’s too emotional and gets into arguments with his staff..He’s the reason y Martindale left..bottom line I don’t see him coaching a SB team..
@@TrollKing2781 Jones had the confidence of the team. Benching him to play these other guys who frankly are worse, did nothing for team morale. Summarily releasing him altogether depressed morale even further. It was also stupid management of human capital. If traded before the Nov 5 deadline, there were a couple of teams with injured QB's that could have used him as a stop-gap for the rest of the season. Estúpido es como lo hace el estúpido
At this point one or the other QB I don’t trust this organization to do right by him or the team yea we need the right personnel upstairs and on the field but are they gonna do it smh I’m just tired of losing in our division and too other’s it’s sickening to watch🤮..
I’m just tired of being a giant fan at this point and what makes it even worse I live in by eagle land and them fans we’ll you know and they got Barkley so they’re so much thank you going around smh I’m running out of things to say lol ..
Bobby Skinner was 100% right and I don't agree with that man on everything just like with saquon Barkley I believe saquon should have been a giant for life
Not a collage, but a junk drawer. Schoen is terrible and hopefully he will be fired when Pennix throws the ball all over the field and embarrasses him, Mara and the Giants defense. Daboll cannot do much coaching with the practice squad he has on the roster.
If they keep that trash GM over the couch I really will be pissed of this is the whole problem with the Giants you got certain people that know how to sit up there and kiss the owner ass as Joe most likely is doing and the coach is a rough and rugged type person when the problem is the owner and the GM but because the Jim gets to sit there and do whatever the damn owner tells him to do he gets a little bit more rope that's what's going on and that's sad
I can't front yall ( my fellow giants family) coach daboll shouldn't be fired.. the players the one on the field that has to execute wat ever plays is called! Missed blocks, dropped passes and penalties.. that's all fundamental stuff that's on the players not the coach. Gm Joe smuck lol whatever his name is! needs to be the one who's fired. With this organization going thru this mess is all karma! Did coach Tom Coughlin dirty then did Eli filthy
joe schoen drafted players for kafka system and daboll intervened and had bad game planning and depth chart management and substitutions that cost the giants to lose sucess.kafka play calling got the giants in to the playoffs in 2022 .daboll never would've won coach of the year if it wasn't for kafka offensive game planning and play calling, long story short joe scheon stays, daboll needs to be fired
I want to see Dabs witha. QB of his choosing, he clearly didnt want to keep working eith DJ. Its Schoen i dont like and at that point just fire both of them.
New GM coach and QB. I was a Penix guy. I would even trade the number 2 pick to ATL for Penix if they would do it. Sounds crazy, but that's what I think about Penix. Would never happen, but I think Penix could end up being one of better QB from last year's draft years down the road.
To me Brian get a pass because he never wanted to keep this quarterback it was put on him to keep that quarterback because the owner has a man crush with that man so the GM follows suit what what the owner wanted question Latin saquon Barkley go you can best believe Brian did not want that to happen letting the free safety go you best believe the coach didn't want that to happen so I don't blame the coach I give him a pass that's why the owner want to keep Joe because it's just like a scenario in Dallas it's just I don't know when I hide act like he's not doing all this stuff behind the scene
Daboll has to go he hasn't coached well joe schoen drafted the right players and schoen drafted Tyrone tracy jr he is currently the best rookie running back in the league right now and far as the defense schoen was right to let Mckinney walk schoen had to save money for next year free agency remember schoen made sure the giants have good salary cap and the giants salary cap is currently in good shape daboll just needs to leave.💯
So because Joe Shame drafted Tracy, he should stay. 20 mil in dead cap in 2025 for Janiel Domes alone is good. As usual, everything you type is ridiculous.
Clean house as in EVERYTHING right down to Ronnie burns who has been on staff since the 80s. Player development is trash!!! Get all of the Mara’s hands out of decision making and scouting. Mara ur responsibility is to write the checks and that’s it.
This shows the power the giant content creators on TH-cam have now great job keep it up you're making an impact
Pat Hanlon reached out to chat with Bobby Skinner, and Bobby told Hanlon that he would continue speaking his mind. Hanlon told Skinner that Talking Giants would no longer be given any perks by the Giants organisation. What it tells us is that they are ready to hold onto Joe Schoen, and the PR department doesn't want to see content creators to speak against their "plans". If they decide to keep that failure Schoen the voices against Schoen will get much louder, along with the planes flying over MetLife with Mara messages. The Giants do not like seeing that, but they brought it on themselves by hiring bad people to fill positions within their organisation.
Y’all complain to much we all hurt when they lose but to not give them a chance is crazy y’all was jock riding when we went to the playoffs the first year now we are going through growing pains y’all crying smh no patience
@calvininswoodjr272 Y'all are too complacent about sticking with a GM that is OBJECTIVELY BAD, for the sake of being patient 🙄 . I guess Reese and Gettleman didn't get enough time to ruin the team any further so we'll just stick with this really bad GM because we want to be patient LOL
@ it’s only been 3 years look at the average age of the players on the team they are young this is not a win now project this is I’m changing this for now and the future exhibit some patience and watch them grow
@ on top of that everyone calling for their heads must have a replacement in mind if you don’t have a viable replacement y’all should be quiet and patient and just watch
I disagree with Bobby I think giants should keep them but at the same time Bobby has every right to give his opinion and he made some good points i just think they should be given a chance to draft their own quarterback I just don't like constantly changing GM coaches every 2 or 3 years Bobby points were good points though i respect his opinion Giants have no right to try to shut him down
I agree with you on one point when you say we shouldn't have a rookie quarterback with a coach fighting for his life that part I agree
The number one reason we in this situation is because of the owner
Great topic
Appreciate you
Big D I think you are spot on in your assessment that Giants want to keep GM Joe Schoen. I suppose you can make a case either way, but I think that Mara and Tisch need to save some face and don’t want to look so bad in the mess they created. So by dumping Dabs they can at least make him the sacrificial lamb and claim that Joe S was the right GM for their rebuild. If you look from this standpoint you can see why ownership wants to keep GM.
I agree
I agree with you I wanted the same quarterback we both wanted the same quarterback and I can't wait till he light up the Giants light my team up
I miss the good ole days
Yes sir me too.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️this shit is crazy.
That is madness!! He is 100 times more responsible for this mess than Dabbs!! Wtf
He is
I'm still disgusted with the look on his face and body language of disrespect he had with saquan. We wouldn't have seen that if it wasn't for hard knocks.. I would still keep coach tho
@Tyairmorris I think he a good coach, but it is malpractice keeping a coach and firing a gm. So unfotunatly he has to go as well. Unless we hire Brandon Brown.
At this point bro they can do whatever they want. If they want to keep Joe and expect some kind of dramatic change good luck with that, but let me be clear so that there is no misunderstanding what they expect and what they are going to get are two different things. Maybe one day they will figure it out…..
It would be a dramatic change without Joe smuck.. a gm that's more experienced will definitely be big help lol
Heavyboxing championship boxing this weekend. Same now with Big BLue, we got Joe Shame vs No Shame. Really amateur hour stuff from the Giants! This whole situation is a microcosm of why the GIants are THIS bad. Excuses, covering their own ass, throwing others under the bus, nepotism. ITS ALL RED HERRINGS…TOTAL JUNK!
Missed some points on gm but more to add
I cant even pay attention anymore its too painful
I hear you
Incorrect. They aren't trying to get rid of either. They like the fact that schoen modernized the operations of the front office, and they haven't forgotten daboll is 2 seasons removed from coach of the year.
Impatient fans want to "blow it up," but I bet the owners want to stick it out.
So you really think both will be back? What's your percentage of certainty, if you had to guess.
I really do think both will be back. I'd say there's a 75% chance they both return. The only reason I wouldn't go higher is because I do believe all the negative media has to give Mara pause.
Ultimately, he wants to retain both and possibly use Bowen as the scapegoat.
Giants going to make Penix a star future hall of fame do not forget
I was so so so pissed when we passed on him last year. Kid has a rocket for an arm is dealy accurate and eveb ran a damn 4.46 40!!! Wtf more you want in a QB
You're 100% right I see it too they trying to keep Joe I remember that press conference when he did it and he basically blame Brian he threw him under the bus the writing was on the wall since the bye week they're trying to get rid of the coach and keep that trash GM
The gm who is got out of terrible cap space daboll isnt a good head coach .the gm has drafted well the head coach is Terrible💯
I wanted PENIX. No hes making debut against giants hopefully i get Ward ...the giants thought highly of PENIX most teams dis injuries just scared them
Absolutely the PR from the Giants contracting Talking Giants about his Joe Scheon video and was upset about it tells all of us Schoen is being brought back. Now I wondering if Talking Giants do another video about firing Brian Daboll would the Giants PR would not like this video either? I agee Big Dash, Scheon and Daboll need to go. By year 3 they should be further along. Possibly finishing 2-15 with no division or home wins is rock's bottom. Not what it should be in year 3 of a rebuild.
I saw Pat Hanlon on the tv years ago. You know he refuses to speak out because he would lose his job. Like Michael Kay, the Yankess yes man so is Hanlon, and any Giants employee refuses to say any wrong.
Pat Hanlon is like Paul Dotino, just a nodding yes-man on the payroll.
You guys, got to understand Joe Sheaon makes final decision on who he draft, with some input from coach. Final decision is Joe.
LETS LEAVE. DABOLL ALONE!! LET HIM COACH THIS TEAM UNTIL THE END OF HIS CONTRACT! LET DABOLL COACH, HE IS A GOOD COACH! GIANTS WILL BE BETTER NEXT SEASON!
You think he'll be able to operate under the pressure next year if he's brought back?
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If the Giants keep Daboll and they looks like crap at the start of the season, do you think the fans at MetLife will sit on their hands and not demand his removal?
This team's ownership and management is panicking, you can see it and you can almost taste it. Any time they try and control the conversation it's a very bad look.
6-11 & 2-12. They should be panicking.
If that’s true fam I don’t have any faith and belief on John Mara nor Steve Tisch moving forward because we need a clean house I don’t need them to half way clean that’s not going to cut it for me and giants fans who feel the same way.
Daboll has done a better job with the crappy roster he has now has he done a good job not really i’m not opposed to firing Daboll but u need to get rid of both not keep the guy who’s worse at his job bc he’s in a higher position
Yo Dash I agree that both Schoen and Daboll need to go….however if I had a choice I’d rather have Daboll go.. I do not like him as a HC and never have..He’s too emotional and gets into arguments with his staff..He’s the reason y Martindale left..bottom line I don’t see him coaching a SB team..
Clean house !!!!! , keep the assistant GM tho , lets see what he can do ……. the giants staff are to old to understand talent in the modern era smh
Brandon Brown was tutored by Howie Roseman, I think I'd definitely give Brown the G.M. position if the Giants were smart enough to fire Schoen.
My broom is ready
The handling of Daniel Jones is the torch that was thrown into this dumpster.
What exactly do you mean by "the handling of Daniel Jones".
@@TrollKing2781 Jones had the confidence of the team. Benching him to play these other guys who frankly are worse, did nothing for team morale. Summarily releasing him altogether depressed morale even further. It was also stupid management of human capital. If traded before the Nov 5 deadline, there were a couple of teams with injured QB's that could have used him as a stop-gap for the rest of the season. Estúpido es como lo hace el estúpido
At this point one or the other QB I don’t trust this organization to do right by him or the team yea we need the right personnel upstairs and on the field but are they gonna do it smh I’m just tired of losing in our division and too other’s it’s sickening to watch🤮..
All we have is hope. I need them to make the right decision.
Both should go. Shoen brings in talent. Daboll develops them. Keep it simple. Plenty of evidence.
I’m just tired of being a giant fan at this point and what makes it even worse I live in by eagle land and them fans we’ll you know and they got Barkley so they’re so much thank you going around smh I’m running out of things to say lol ..
Yeppers this is the state of the NYG .. talking giants seem like good dudes too ..shame
Bobby Skinner was 100% right and I don't agree with that man on everything just like with saquon Barkley I believe saquon should have been a giant for life
Not a collage, but a junk drawer.
Schoen is terrible and hopefully he will be fired when Pennix throws the ball all over the field and embarrasses him, Mara and the Giants defense.
Daboll cannot do much coaching with the practice squad he has on the roster.
If they keep that trash GM over the couch I really will be pissed of this is the whole problem with the Giants you got certain people that know how to sit up there and kiss the owner ass as Joe most likely is doing and the coach is a rough and rugged type person when the problem is the owner and the GM but because the Jim gets to sit there and do whatever the damn owner tells him to do he gets a little bit more rope that's what's going on and that's sad
If they do that, this team will continue to be a dumpster 🔥 for another 5 years
I hope Penix throws for 400 yards on the us!
I can't front yall ( my fellow giants family) coach daboll shouldn't be fired.. the players the one on the field that has to execute wat ever plays is called! Missed blocks, dropped passes and penalties.. that's all fundamental stuff that's on the players not the coach. Gm Joe smuck lol whatever his name is! needs to be the one who's fired. With this organization going thru this mess is all karma! Did coach Tom Coughlin dirty then did Eli filthy
joe schoen drafted players for kafka system and daboll intervened and had bad game planning and depth chart management and substitutions that cost the giants to lose sucess.kafka play calling got the giants in to the playoffs in 2022 .daboll never would've won coach of the year if it wasn't for kafka offensive game planning and play calling, long story short joe scheon stays, daboll needs to be fired
I want to see Dabs witha. QB of his choosing, he clearly didnt want to keep working eith DJ. Its Schoen i dont like and at that point just fire both of them.
New GM coach and QB. I was a Penix guy. I would even trade the number 2 pick to ATL for Penix if they would do it. Sounds crazy, but that's what I think about Penix. Would never happen, but I think Penix could end up being one of better QB from last year's draft years down the road.
To me Brian get a pass because he never wanted to keep this quarterback it was put on him to keep that quarterback because the owner has a man crush with that man so the GM follows suit what what the owner wanted question Latin saquon Barkley go you can best believe Brian did not want that to happen letting the free safety go you best believe the coach didn't want that to happen so I don't blame the coach I give him a pass that's why the owner want to keep Joe because it's just like a scenario in Dallas it's just I don't know when I hide act like he's not doing all this stuff behind the scene
Daboll has to go he hasn't coached well joe schoen drafted the right players and schoen drafted Tyrone tracy jr he is currently the best rookie running back in the league right now and far as the defense schoen was right to let Mckinney walk schoen had to save money for next year free agency remember schoen made sure the giants have good salary cap and the giants salary cap is currently in good shape daboll just needs to leave.💯
So because Joe Shame drafted Tracy, he should stay. 20 mil in dead cap in 2025 for Janiel Domes alone is good. As usual, everything you type is ridiculous.
Fire everybody! I don’t need to hear not one more word from Schoen or Daboll. At this point even Dottino can get it just for being in the room!
Fire J.S. NO ONE Can Win With This Shitty Roster
Pretty sure there might be a few coaches who can win more than 2 games with this roster.
Clean house as in EVERYTHING right down to Ronnie burns who has been on staff since the 80s. Player development is trash!!! Get all of the Mara’s hands out of decision making and scouting. Mara ur responsibility is to write the checks and that’s it.
A successful GM shouldn't need all his rookies to start year 3
Bingo!!!!!!!