October 13 - The beginning of the end for Edward Seymour
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- This day in Tudor history, 13th October 1549, was the beginning of the end for Edward Seymour, Duke of Somerset and Edward VI's uncle, for it was on this day that the king's council abolished both his protectorate and his membership of the Council.
Somerset had been left vulnerable by social unrest in the kingdom and when things got tense between him and John Dudley, Earl of Warwick, and his supporters, Somerset took action, action that would see him being branded a traitor.
In today's talk, Claire Ridgway, author of "On This Day in Tudor History", explains exactly what Protector Somerset did to provoke his downfall and what happened next.
Edward Seymour ended up being executed on 22nd January 1552 and you can find out more about his execution in Claire's talk from 22 January - • January 22 - Execution...
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Two cat cameos, bells tolled and a stunning account of the rise, fall and execution of Summerset. A man with unlimited ambition who fell once and was restored to prominence only to fall again. Interesting people these Tudors.
I thought I'd throw everything in today!
Thank you so much! As an A level History student i found it very informing and useful!
Thank you Claire. One of these days I think you should have a video just featuring your pets. I think they're very sweet & obviously they're not camera shy so you really should give them a chance to be Tudor stars themselves!!
If you fast-forward to near the end of th-cam.com/video/VRSHnqnK4oc/w-d-xo.html, my pets get featured there.
What about a video about Tudor pets? Were ALL cat ladies viewed as witches?
@@anneboleynfiles I LOVED that one! So cheery.
I Mean the link you left with your pets featured, NOT about THIS video!
Thanks for SAYING in your video the DATE of a previous related video- made it so much easier to backtrack.....ALWAYS enjoy your videos- thanks for taking the time💐💐
Your channel is now firmly part of my daily viewing routine, I have learnt a lot from it and it’s always interesting.
Aw, that's so lovely to hear, thank you!
Your channel is the best. Your hard work is very much appreciated by your subscribers. Thank you.
Love watching daily. Thanks Claire & Judd! xo
He just could not let it be! He should have been extremely grateful the first time they let him off. Insane with power and greed plus a huge boost for his ego.
Yes!
Likely part of it...but also, had he backed off and gave up power, he would eventually be framed anyways so the crown could take back the $$$ etc.
He damned if he did
, and damned if he didn't
A very vicious cycle...similar things happened in Chinese Dynasties.... their would be a powerful maternal clan. And if they gave up power, they would suffer, and if they didn't, would suffer too
Hello Claire great video again,keep them coming.x
Thank you!
Edward Seymore is one of the characters I most despised. I was just about to comment on him in another of your videos. Simply a cruel man.
I so enjoy listening and learning. Today was a beautiful work day before our next Montana weathermaker comes in. Only going down to 20F tonight
Keep warm!
Love your videos Claire! Edward Seymour was my husband’s 13th great grandfather. He sure fell hard when he did fall, and to think he had so much power at one time.
Edward Seymour was my great Uncle (14) through his brother Henry Seymour. The only Seymour brother to survive. Your husband and I are distant cousins.
A very ambitious man who met an unfortunate end. I guess that’s what happens when you’re and ambitious man and live in Tudor times!
Loved all the cat cameos and the dogs barking and the bells! Makes me feel like we’re having a chat over a cuppa! Wonderful way to learn all about Tudor history!
He really was never able to curb that ambitious streak. I guess a quiet retirement in the country was never going to be his style. The Seymours' all seemed to go out the hard way.
Thank you.
Your work is very important bringing our past alive!!. I hope you tube is greatful for having you educating us (me anyways) There is alot of mindless drival and just plain insanity. Thankyou Claire once again
Thank you! I do enjoy talking Tudor!
Thank you so much
An ambitious man, to be sure. And like most ambitious men, he came to an unpleasant end. Thank You, Claire. So enjoy your daily videos and learn something new everyday.
Hi Claire , Just found your channel it's amazing love it ! ❤ I've been doing some research into Edward Seymour Earl of Somerset and I was wondering if the Baron John Seymore of Sawbridgeworth was his son ? There seems to be alot of conflicting information. Laura 🙂
I don't know, I'm afraid, as I haven't looked into the family tree.
@@anneboleynfiles Ok thank you , I'll just have to keep researching. 🙂
My 12th great-grandfather Sir William Lock (or Lok/Locke) had been a gentleman usher to Henry VIII and knighted by Edward VI as well as an alderman and sheriff of London and was one of the men sent to arrest Edward Seymour. Family legend says that William's grandson Matthew Locke of Pensford later married Edward Seymour's daughter Catherine, although no proof has been found to confirm this.
Love the way you say hi very up beat 🌞😊🌞
Thank you!
Thank you Claire for are Tudor lesson.
I can't believe that after being in the tower and being so close to having his head taken off of his shoulders that he could ever try to be ambitious again. The only reason I could see that he would do that would be if he really and truly felt like maybe Northumberland and company were actually the one's being disloyal or ambitious, and maybe King Edward just had blinders on and was young and naive, after all the Seymour's were his own blood. I would have hoped they had his best interest at heart, but then again ambition is an evil green monster that makes people do weird and strange things. So maybe he did wish to be restored to his former glory, or maybe he even wished for himself to be made king and overthrow his young nephew. I just kind of find it unlikely that with the way things were back then, and knowing how easily Lady Jane Grey way overthrow, that the people were still indeed loyal to their beloved king Henry viii. But being maybe that he didn't have the hindsight that we now have maybe he really did think he could get away with stealing the crown. After all, it had been done before, but I still like to hope he had his nephew's best interests at heart!!
He must have believed that he could challenge Warwick successfully and that it would all work out. Sometimes, I just want to go back in time and give people a good shake!
@@anneboleynfiles It amazes me that so many uprisings and rebellions failed miserably in Henry V111's reign with equally miserable punishments for those that took part. It amazes me why people at this time continued to make the same mistakes. Seymour, the Wyatt Rebellion, the 1569 rebellion in the North etc,
What is the name of your black kitty? Thank you again for the great video!!
Sharing Tudor history?...Is there any other way to live Claire?! 😁...We that love it so...all have to go through the..otjer people's eyes glazing over though...don't we?....I expect Tim has experienced the same, when talking to others about the Egyptians too 😂..Never mind..we love our passions & we enjoy them...thankyou for the video as always Claire..that's what happens to an overly ambitious man 🙄
Yes, I think ambition really did go to his head.
Hello Judd! Henry was a brutal, bloody, unpredictable monarch but he knew how to keep his counselors under control and constructed his will to avoid exactly what happened with Thomas & Edward Seymour but since his will was ignored.... What a mess.
Yes, I'm sure things would have been much better if the council of 16 equals had gone ahead.
Love seeing the cat and hearing Judd barking. 😁
On this day in Tudor history ... something *bad* happened. 💕
Searia Kett isn't that everyday in Tudor history 😂😂😂
Yep!
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It's also the saying on all of Claire's merch. lol
The Seymour brothers always creeped me out.
LOL! I agree, they seemed to have been exceeding ambitious. I am sure they were the ones that thrust their sister Jane under the Kings nose when they knew he and Anne Boleyn were having problems. And they were my great-Uncles (x14)! Their brother Henry Seymour was my great-grandfather (x14), the only brother who kept his head. I am a descendent of Henry’s daughter Jane Seymour Rodney. When you read about Henry Seymour, everyone makes him out to be some complete and total loser, even though he held lots of important local offices. He seemed to have a character much more like his sister Jane and so very different than his two brothers. I wonder how he really felt about them? Well, I am glad he was a mild, non-ambitious person, or I doubt I would be here now!
Clare Cherry and I started work on a biography of the brothers but then we both got too busy doing other projects and Clare commented that she didn't mind letting go of the project as it was hard to find any redeeming qualities in these men. You don't have to like who you're writing about, but it does make a project easier and more enjoyable, I think, if you do.
@@maryannebrown2385 OMG you are so lucky to be a relative of a queen that is so interesting to learn about. She is one of my faves cuz not too much is known about her and I would have loved to see her be queen for longer just to get a better sense of who she was. She's mysterious and beautiful. Also you are very lucky to have been Henry's granddaughter x14 because you're probably right the, the other two were not the greatest at keeping their heads attached. Lol! But I'm so jealous. Still wish I had a cool person in my family tree!!
Sommerset changed harry viii will appointing himself as protector.
Somerset didn't change Henry VIII's will, he just went again it and got 13 of the 16 executors to back him in becoming Lord Protector.
Is there any reason to think he didn't do any of these things?
Seymours and Dudleys - soo many executions in. those families caused by their overarching greed and. ambition
They never learned, especially Somerset who was given a second chance (because the charges were dodgy?) and still could not behave. And Dudley's turn to be executed was not far away.
Perhaps men of overweening ambition like these go some way to explain Henry:s suspicious nature. The court must have been hoaching with plots and feuds.
@@marionarnott750 Robert Dudley and his brother, Ambrose, managed to luck out.
@@GoGreen1977 As well as. their grandfather (?) of Empson and Dudley fame at the beginning of Henry's reign. They really didn't learn.
Not really, but at the time he was acting as Lord Protector, king in all but name.
Was John Dudley the father or family member of the Dudley that Elizabeth was fond of?
Yes, John Dudley was Robert Dudley's father.
I read somewhere Edward VI Was immensely mistreated by his handlers, kack of food and free movement. Does anyone know of this? Thx
I've never heard of that. He would have been very well looked after as he was king. Thomas Seymour believed that his brother, Lord Protector Somerset, had too mcuh influence over the king and was turning him against him so he sent the young king gifts and money to try and get him on side. Perhaps that's what you read?
@@anneboleynfiles Thank you. I have read a lot of historical fiction books on the Tudors quite some time ago and that was the fiction portion, obviously, but it stuck with me as something I could not reconcile.
I've read that King Henry and then his protectors kept Edward very isolated so that he wouldn't get sick. But the isolation meant he had no immune system and died young. So they actually did a true disservice to him by not exposing him to society.
Was the movie Young Bess kinda like what Somerset and his wife were like? I know it’s fiction I was just wondering don’t know to much about them
Thanks Claire
I'm afraid I don't know as I haven't see that one. Sorry.
I loved that movie when I was a kid! What I remember of it was not particularly accurate, but it was one of the films that attracted me to Tudor history. Must look it up and watch it again!
Hi Claire! Good video -- You've done so much for us with all the videos about Tudor England, and I want to try and do something for you. I don't know if you're aware of this, but back in the 70's, Rick Wakeman, the keyboard player of the rock group Yes, released a solo album entitled The Six Wives of Henry VIII. These pieces of music are Wakeman's interpretation of the six queens. Here is the link to the TH-cam video: th-cam.com/video/aDuBhDzjYyI/w-d-xo.html. If you'd like to see Wakeman in concert, skip to the last video which is the music for Catherine Parr. When it comes to music, Wakeman is on a level all his own. There are really good keyboard players out there, like Tuomas Holopainen of Nightwish, and then there's Wakeman. I hope you enjoy it! Have a great upcoming week!
Have any of your fans sent you anything interesting?
Oh yes! I've had Tudor-inspired jewellery, an Anne Boleyn doll, an Anne Boleyn figurine, pictures, all sorts.
I'm confused...is Somerset Seymour?!?!?!?!
Yes, Edward Seymour was Duke of Somerset as well as being Lord Protector.
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Edward Seymour was one of my grandpa. He was born 1506 at England United Kingdom
Was Anne Stanhope the wife of Edward seymour??
Yes, that's right.
Can't say that I liked Somerset ! Seymours are creeps 😂
Seymour - 0, Dudley - 1.
I justl Listened to this video again. Innoway you have to feel sorry for the boy who was king because he was manipulated by everyone around him. He never had a chance to grow up and grow on his own so we don’t know what kind of man he would’ve become. A sad story.