I would love to see an actual comparison of the yellow & white LED against the halogen light in a simulated weather event such as fog using a fog machine and mist using maybe something like a hose on the mist setting.
A more common situation to test would be wet dark black asphalt roads with varying intensity of rain. It seems "blue" LED lights work best on dry concrete roads with no rain which is the least challenging night driving situation with lights anyway. Hopefully a high output 2500K light technology for low beams is on the horizon. This would also help with not dazzling other driver eyes.
Here ya go. Just love how he did the test. Hard to simulate/test in real foggy conditions. But my normal H11 halogen used for my foglights just work great. What is important is proper aiming. Just don't think factory settings is good. Here is a more detailed test. th-cam.com/video/6B6zg5crHAs/w-d-xo.html
This is why I went back to yellow Halogens in my fogs. I live in an area where we see a lot of sea fog during the winter. Add to this winding coastal roads with knarly drop-offs and it makes for a bad combination. First time driving home in the fog at night with LEDs in the fog lights was enough to convince me they sucked. lol Though best fog light I have ever owned where the old Lucas units, had a set on an old Jag and they were just phenomenal in bad weather. I was still using them on my F250 right up until 2019.
Thank you for the explanation. No wonder I can’t see clearly with my yellow led bulbs thru heavy rain… gotta go change them out for a set of traditional old school halogens
Not sure about the street, But using offroad led pods (4x4 specific) on my mountain bike on single track.. White led, whether slightly yellow hue, pure white or blue hue... appears more brighter....but yellow LED I actually see more, things are more distinctive .
Yes. Warmer wavelengths from pure yellow or amber halogens scatter less than the yellow from LEDs because most modern LEDs contain a mixture of specific light colors. Halogens output a continuum. It’s the uncontrolled scattering that reduces visibility in inclement weather or foggy or dusty conditions. Scattering can be reduced with lighting that outputs a pure yellow or amber tint with little or no shorter wavelengths mixed in. However, in very dark conditions, the eye’s sensitivity is reduced to very long wavelengths (i.e. deep orange and red). Control the scattering from your fog lights or headlights, and your visibility increases.
I had yellow LED's in my Hella 550 lights on my Jeep, the factory fog lights were removed by the bigger tires. After one of them failed I installed Hella Xtreme Yellow bulbs, the difference in brightness was noticeable however they seemed to cut through the ground level blowing snow better than the LED yellow ones did. Both yellow bulbs gave MUCH better perceived visibility than white ones however the Hella yellow halogens were the best.
I did the test, the yellow fog light led vs halogen, in rain, heavy fog, heavy dust and snow, and while the led scatters and lights up the surroundings very nicely and is good for close distances, the halogen (hella extreme yellow foglights) cuts trough all of it as a knife in butter. Led is way brighter and halogen works way better despite being less bright.
I'd love to see a yellow led light vs a halogen yellow bulb like the nokya hyper yellow. I have yellow halogen bulbs and I'd like to see if yellow LEDs are that much brighter
Here in Florida we sometimes get torrential rains and I'm on the fence about yellow or white fogs. I love the look of the yellow and im wondering is its that much of a trade off.. .
its odd that i both knew this and didnt know this , i knew leds where not single spectrum but also for some reason assumed the leds would cut threw still based on color even if it was a mix , but this was nice to consider
would it be good to use yellow as low beam light? i want a light the specially in the snow is going to get me some definition of the rd. sometimes the pure white is so hard to see in deep snow. when i’m part of the crew that has to go in and clear the snow so everyone else can get around safely.
Can you please explain why you wouldn’t recommend yellow bulbs in the headlight? I want to run a gtr 2 white bulb(s) for my low beams and a gtr 2 yellow bulb(s) for my high beams… wouldn’t that be the best of both worlds?
Fantastic question! This is an appealing idea to go after since you'd have both colors at your fingertips, however there is a distinct disadvantage to this. Yellow light does not travel as far of a distance as white does, so it'll dissapate quicker than a white light will. For a High beam, the main purpose is to extend your overall vision down the road as far as you can see. Going to a yellow bulb will hurt this distance ability, defeating the purpose of your headlights! The best way to go about it would be a Yellow fog light to supplement your white low/high beams. 🤝 Let us know if you have any questions! Sales@HeadlightRevolution.com
Hello guys great work with content, i drive a polo 6r with dual h7 beams for high and low, as with factory lights they are like candles especially in india when people blind with high beams. What would you suggest among these combination 1. D2r 35w 4300k hid bulbs low beam and Philips ultinon 9000 high beam 2.upgrade fog lamps to projector setup with warm color for bad weather and ultinons in low beam. 3.get higher wattage halogen for low beam( worried about heat damage)
random question, but why does it seem like projector lights cut through rain better than reflector lights? i have two cars with the same brightness headlights, ones a projector and ones a reflector. the reflectors seem to scatter and reflect snow and rain back at me, no pun intended, while the projectors go right thru it and sometimes you cant even see the rain falling
@@HeadlightRevolution but can you explain why that cuts thru fog and rain better? Shouldn’t it show the light when more like when you shine a laser in fog?
The actual color of LED is more blue, the yellow filter doesn't completely block out this blue light meaning a halogen would actually be more efficient in some cases. LED would be brighter overall though!
Ok but what if the lens of the assembly is yellow? Should i get a yellow bulb or white bulb? Does it matter? And does it matter if it's halogen or led?
Thank you! I'll be putting the DD SS3 LED Fog Lights in my 2015 Prius with oem halogen projectors. Would you guys recommend the driving lights or the fog lights version for that car? I do alot of mountain driving out here in Colorado and I'm looking for the maximum and highest quality light output all around. What you guy recommended for the high beams and low beams? The Highs and lows are two different bulbs. I had the Morimoto 2stroke 3.0's in my 05 prius and they were really good but now I'm looking the best of the best in my 15 Prius for those long mountain drives through the night. Just not sure what would be current in the market that is high quality and the brightest you can buy for both the projector low beams and the reflector high beams? Thank you guys!
I have a 2018 Canyon and I would like yellow fog lights, but 2015-2020 GMC CANYON is recommended ULTRA 2 LED for fitment I suppose. What other yellow fog light could work? or pretty much stuck with white?
curious question for you guys, with a Bi Xenon HID kit, would a 3000k HID bulb be a single spectrum lighting or do they use a coating on the HID lamps to get the yellow colour
Alright so all the cars I have have either LEDs or HID upgrades and they work awesomely, but my 2014 taurus hates any upgrades. It came with a 9012 hi/lo beam projectors and I have tried some cheap LEDs and they sucked, tried Auxbeam (midtier in my eyes) and still worse, got a HID kit but it blew fuses all the time, then finally got some gtr lighting LEDs and still no improvement. All the LEDs had a flood light affect with no hotspot. Some good level halogens have been the best. Any idea why?
I WISH YOU GIYS WOULD DO A VIDEO ON THE FORD EXPLORER (MOST POPULAR SUV IN AMERICA...EVER) preferred 2014 year explorer with halogen projector headlights....thanks team
@@HeadlightRevolution ok, so no video to help see, so what do you recommend for the 14 Explorer with Halogen projector lighting. I was thinking the Gtr 2 or SV.4 but not sure? Looking to order within the week along with morimoto xb fog lights
I can absolutely say you are wrong my friend my amber fogs cut right through fog and snow whatever testing yall did want correct I live up in Michigan white or halogen bulbs stick up here
The human eye is proven to see yellow or yellowish color better than any other color. That's why the yellow before the red attracts your visual attention, like construction or flashing work lights. Yellow offers our eyes more vision than white, blue, etc... If you wanna test it. Drive in a heavy blizzard at night with yellow or amber lighting.
@@Sudden-Champion24 just white in good weather. I have GTR in my headlights. In my fogs I have a set of Lasfit LED switchbacks that can light either white or yellow depending on the weather
People tend to forget when doing a comparison like this is the human eye aspect and how our eyes adapt faster to warmer hues and still retain night vision.
@@HeadlightRevolution I just meant because of the lights' wavelength, a yellow halogen would be more suitable. I remember the 2001 Lexus IS 300 had yellow halogens, or yellow bulb caps to make them yellow. They were bright and went well with the 4300K OEM HID system the car came with.
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I would love to see an actual comparison of the yellow & white LED against the halogen light in a simulated weather event such as fog using a fog machine and mist using maybe something like a hose on the mist setting.
We could possibly do something like that!
A more common situation to test would be wet dark black asphalt roads with varying intensity of rain. It seems "blue" LED lights work best on dry concrete roads with no rain which is the least challenging night driving situation with lights anyway. Hopefully a high output 2500K light technology for low beams is on the horizon. This would also help with not dazzling other driver eyes.
@@HeadlightRevolution That would be cool! I am with Brian K and would like to see a wet night, black pavement test of LED vs halogen also.
Here ya go. Just love how he did the test. Hard to simulate/test in real foggy conditions. But my normal H11 halogen used for my foglights just work great. What is important is proper aiming. Just don't think factory settings is good. Here is a more detailed test. th-cam.com/video/6B6zg5crHAs/w-d-xo.html
This is why I went back to yellow Halogens in my fogs. I live in an area where we see a lot of sea fog during the winter. Add to this winding coastal roads with knarly drop-offs and it makes for a bad combination. First time driving home in the fog at night with LEDs in the fog lights was enough to convince me they sucked. lol Though best fog light I have ever owned where the old Lucas units, had a set on an old Jag and they were just phenomenal in bad weather. I was still using them on my F250 right up until 2019.
Definitely a good call! The LED bulbs are brighter overall but that halogen just works wonders for punching through that fog!
This would be really helpful if you stated the color of the LED's you changed out of your fog lights.
Thank you for the explanation. No wonder I can’t see clearly with my yellow led bulbs thru heavy rain… gotta go change them out for a set of traditional old school halogens
Glad to help!
Not sure about the street,
But using offroad led pods (4x4 specific) on my mountain bike on single track..
White led, whether slightly yellow hue, pure white or blue hue... appears more brighter....but yellow LED I actually see more, things are more distinctive .
Yep!
Yes. Warmer wavelengths from pure yellow or amber halogens scatter less than the yellow from LEDs because most modern LEDs contain a mixture of specific light colors. Halogens output a continuum. It’s the uncontrolled scattering that reduces visibility in inclement weather or foggy or dusty conditions. Scattering can be reduced with lighting that outputs a pure yellow or amber tint with little or no shorter wavelengths mixed in. However, in very dark conditions, the eye’s sensitivity is reduced to very long wavelengths (i.e. deep orange and red). Control the scattering from your fog lights or headlights, and your visibility increases.
I had yellow LED's in my Hella 550 lights on my Jeep, the factory fog lights were removed by the bigger tires. After one of them failed I installed Hella Xtreme Yellow bulbs, the difference in brightness was noticeable however they seemed to cut through the ground level blowing snow better than the LED yellow ones did. Both yellow bulbs gave MUCH better perceived visibility than white ones however the Hella yellow halogens were the best.
Good info, Charlie! (:
Do 3000K HID bulbs suffer from the same shortcoming as yellow LEDs or do they perform closer to halogen bulbs for use in bad weather?
I'm just wondering if I could use this type ofyellow light for my low beam light instead of fog light in California?
But how do the best yellow led bulbs compare to an old school halogen fog light? Is it better to go yellow LED, or halogen, for functionality?
For fog light use, yellow. Headlight use, white!
I did the test, the yellow fog light led vs halogen, in rain, heavy fog, heavy dust and snow, and while the led scatters and lights up the surroundings very nicely and is good for close distances, the halogen (hella extreme yellow foglights) cuts trough all of it as a knife in butter. Led is way brighter and halogen works way better despite being less bright.
I'd love to see a yellow led light vs a halogen yellow bulb like the nokya hyper yellow. I have yellow halogen bulbs and I'd like to see if yellow LEDs are that much brighter
That could be a potential future video!
Here in Florida we sometimes get torrential rains and I'm on the fence about yellow or white fogs. I love the look of the yellow and im wondering is its that much of a trade off.. .
It is absolutely worth it!
Would you recommend a specific yellow halogen in the case of best fog light performance?
If so, what one?
Nokya has some great yellow fog light bulbs!
This is great! I learned a lot!
Glad it was helpful!
its odd that i both knew this and didnt know this , i knew leds where not single spectrum but also for some reason assumed the leds would cut threw still based on color even if it was a mix , but this was nice to consider
would it be good to use yellow as low beam light? i want a light the specially in the snow is going to get me some definition of the rd. sometimes the pure white is so hard to see in deep snow. when i’m part of the crew that has to go in and clear the snow so everyone else can get around safely.
We'd recommend trying them in fog lights first! They will be pretty intense, and might not be ideal for low beams all the time.
Can you please explain why you wouldn’t recommend yellow bulbs in the headlight? I want to run a gtr 2 white bulb(s) for my low beams and a gtr 2 yellow bulb(s) for my high beams… wouldn’t that be the best of both worlds?
Fantastic question! This is an appealing idea to go after since you'd have both colors at your fingertips, however there is a distinct disadvantage to this. Yellow light does not travel as far of a distance as white does, so it'll dissapate quicker than a white light will. For a High beam, the main purpose is to extend your overall vision down the road as far as you can see. Going to a yellow bulb will hurt this distance ability, defeating the purpose of your headlights!
The best way to go about it would be a Yellow fog light to supplement your white low/high beams. 🤝 Let us know if you have any questions!
Sales@HeadlightRevolution.com
@@HeadlightRevolution thank you so much for the response you guys are the best always on point!
4300k HID'S is the all time winner 😂😎
You got that right!
So... Is the yellow halogen more penetrable through the snow than yellow LED light?
Nice explanation and great video!
Glad you liked it!
Hello guys great work with content, i drive a polo 6r with dual h7 beams for high and low, as with factory lights they are like candles especially in india when people blind with high beams.
What would you suggest among these combination
1. D2r 35w 4300k hid bulbs low beam and Philips ultinon 9000 high beam
2.upgrade fog lamps to projector setup with warm color for bad weather and ultinons in low beam.
3.get higher wattage halogen for low beam( worried about heat damage)
I'd go option 1 here and instead of Philips high beams I would do GTR Ultra 2!
random question, but why does it seem like projector lights cut through rain better than reflector lights? i have two cars with the same brightness headlights, ones a projector and ones a reflector. the reflectors seem to scatter and reflect snow and rain back at me, no pun intended, while the projectors go right thru it and sometimes you cant even see the rain falling
Projectors are a more focused beam!
@@HeadlightRevolution but can you explain why that cuts thru fog and rain better? Shouldn’t it show the light when more like when you shine a laser in fog?
Wouldn’t yellow filters (ie: Lamin-x) convert the LED light into narrow spectrum, making them as good as or better than yellow halogen fog lights?
The actual color of LED is more blue, the yellow filter doesn't completely block out this blue light meaning a halogen would actually be more efficient in some cases. LED would be brighter overall though!
Ok but what if the lens of the assembly is yellow? Should i get a yellow bulb or white bulb? Does it matter? And does it matter if it's halogen or led?
We say to match the color of the bulb to the color of the lens! Red lens: red LEDs!
LED or Halogen is completely up to you, LED will be much brighter!
@HeadlightRevolution thanks for the quick response! Getting all my lighting needs from yall.
Yep, Low beam with HID 5000K and fogs with 3000k halogen bulb for many years :D
Nice!
Which one is better for foggy / rainy weather, halogen or HID bulb? 😅
We would recommend some good 3000k HID bulbs or the yellow GTR Ultra 2!
Thank you! I'll be putting the DD SS3 LED Fog Lights in my 2015 Prius with oem halogen projectors. Would you guys recommend the driving lights or the fog lights version for that car? I do alot of mountain driving out here in Colorado and I'm looking for the maximum and highest quality light output all around. What you guy recommended for the high beams and low beams? The Highs and lows are two different bulbs. I had the Morimoto 2stroke 3.0's in my 05 prius and they were really good but now I'm looking the best of the best in my 15 Prius for those long mountain drives through the night. Just not sure what would be current in the market that is high quality and the brightest you can buy for both the projector low beams and the reflector high beams? Thank you guys!
Definitely the fog light variant!
For the low and high I would recommend the GTR Ultra 2.0!
I have a 2018 Canyon and I would like yellow fog lights, but 2015-2020 GMC CANYON is recommended ULTRA 2 LED for fitment I suppose. What other yellow fog light could work? or pretty much stuck with white?
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What about yellow film? Like lamin-x with a white led headlight or fog?
This would still help some, but not as much as a true yellow output!
Ok I have led projector hi/low beam lights what would be the best to run in my fog lights? (I live in Canada and see a lot of fog and of corse snow)
I would highly recommend the yellow GTR Ultra 2!
curious question for you guys, with a Bi Xenon HID kit, would a 3000k HID bulb be a single spectrum lighting or do they use a coating on the HID lamps to get the yellow colour
Single spectrum!
Alright so all the cars I have have either LEDs or HID upgrades and they work awesomely, but my 2014 taurus hates any upgrades. It came with a 9012 hi/lo beam projectors and I have tried some cheap LEDs and they sucked, tried Auxbeam (midtier in my eyes) and still worse, got a HID kit but it blew fuses all the time, then finally got some gtr lighting LEDs and still no improvement. All the LEDs had a flood light affect with no hotspot. Some good level halogens have been the best. Any idea why?
Sounds like a good HID kit is going to be your best bet. I would give GTR HID a shot!
You guys should try switchback led foglights, I have a set from alla lighting and it's really cool to not sacrifice just having one color
These tend to sacrifice overall intensity and beam pattern to have 2 colors, we could look into them one day though!
lol I have these too, they’re pretty decent. If it’s pouring rain out at night the yellow option is pretty great.
@@HeadlightRevolution deautokey sells dual color leds too, they seem nice.
I WISH YOU GIYS WOULD DO A VIDEO ON THE FORD EXPLORER (MOST POPULAR SUV IN AMERICA...EVER) preferred 2014 year explorer with halogen projector headlights....thanks team
While the SUV are common, most people aren't interested in lighting upgrades, we could possibly do a video one day though!
@@HeadlightRevolution ok, so no video to help see, so what do you recommend for the 14 Explorer with Halogen projector lighting. I was thinking the Gtr 2 or SV.4 but not sure? Looking to order within the week along with morimoto xb fog lights
Thanks for the scientific explanation
Our pleasure!
Can you put a yellow led on your low beam projector
Watch the video
You can, but I honestly would keep yellow for the high or fogs!
I can absolutely say you are wrong my friend my amber fogs cut right through fog and snow whatever testing yall did want correct I live up in Michigan white or halogen bulbs stick up here
The human eye is proven to see yellow or yellowish color better than any other color. That's why the yellow before the red attracts your visual attention, like construction or flashing work lights. Yellow offers our eyes more vision than white, blue, etc...
If you wanna test it. Drive in a heavy blizzard at night with yellow or amber lighting.
Yellow lights got me like 👁👄👁
What about for normal night driving, without rain, fog or snow. Which headlight bulb is better for vision, yellow or white?
@@Sudden-Champion24 just white in good weather. I have GTR in my headlights. In my fogs I have a set of Lasfit LED switchbacks that can light either white or yellow depending on the weather
How about warm white LEDs, 3500-4000K?
That could work but good luck finding LED bulbs at that kelvin range with good output!
@@HeadlightRevolution I have. There is no one. It is even hard to find some with poor output. 😟
I was expecting to see the theory been proven. May be on next video.. :-)
Next time!
@@HeadlightRevolution Thanks in advance for your testing. Test like these help me to try our few of your products.
People tend to forget when doing a comparison like this is the human eye aspect and how our eyes adapt faster to warmer hues and still retain night vision.
You're right Jethro!
yeah thats the main benefit ive seen for yellow lights over white. nothing to do with light scattering
Lasfit switchback fog lights, you have yellow and white lights.
And terrible light output!
So basically if you want the usefulness of the yellow bulbs, don’t go with LED, go with halogen ones like PIAA
HID is a good option here!
In other words,old school wins again.
All depends on what you're looking for!
so are you saying get HID
For yellow bulbs, sure!
So basically.....YELLOW fogs are not the way to go.
This all depends on what you want, we like yellow fogs here!
@@HeadlightRevolution I just meant because of the lights' wavelength, a yellow halogen would be more suitable. I remember the 2001 Lexus IS 300 had yellow halogens, or yellow bulb caps to make them yellow. They were bright and went well with the 4300K OEM HID system the car came with.
Fog lights hurt the eyes of the driver in front of the driver with fog lights
No.