What's the best beginner / first "real" telescope eyepiece? Baader Planetarium 8-24mm Hyperion Zoom!
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- What is the difference between the eyepiece that was included with your scope and an $800 one? Why is the Baader Planetarium 8-24mm Hyperion Zoom the best first "real" eyepiece for you? Watch to find out!
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Great video Vlad. I absolutely love the sheer convenience of my Baader Hyperion Zoom. Like you i have been trying moving into the wide field EP’s but I just seem to prefer the 60-68 degree eyepieces. I can see the entire FOV in one look without having to move my eye around the field stop to take it all in. Best EP I’ve ever bought
Glad to hear that you really like it! At this point I actually own two of them so I'm certainly a fan!
Well this was very helpful. Im a beginner...really bought the telescope for my kids and got hooked on it. usual mistakes of going cheap in telescope and eyepieces.....sitting here wondering why this 100 bucks upgrade set I got has a 6mm eyepiece that feels like looking through a straw......... this video answers the question of eyepieces directly but hints on telescopes...please do the same for telescopes...save other people the $600 I didnt.
I already have a vid on scopes! th-cam.com/video/I9po09jAJ1M/w-d-xo.html
Glad to have helped!
Thank you AVT-Astro.
Your video made me wiser, and you definitely saved me some money regarding the zoom.
I´m subscribed and looking forward to learning some more from you.
Greetings from Denmark
Great to hear that you found the info useful! Thanks for subscribing and let me know if there are any specific topics you would like videos on. Best, Vlad.
Really great video mate, I must admit I have been in astronomy for quite sometime and it's nice to hear someone that can clear some of the confusion. I have the Celestron 24-8 and believe me when I say it's the only ep that sit in my diagonal 😉 I just love the fact that I can adapt my mag to the constantly changing seeing condition for optimum result in a twist.
Yes the utility of a zoom is very nice! I did not mention in the video but the Baader zoom is significantly better Then the entry level zooms optically. Just wanted to clarify that but yes I'm sure that even the Celestron unit does give you a nice view with all the utility I talked about of a zoom!
You deserve huge props for replying to every single comment, few TH-camrs do that. I havent read every one, maybe its been asked, but is the zoom "locked" at those 5 focal points? In other words, If I wanted to view at 10mm can I set it in between the 8 and 12? I.e., is it "infinitely adjustable" throughout the entire zoom range? Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words! I'm making these videos primarily to help newer folks in the hobby and enjoy sharing my knowledge. If your youtubing for fame and money astronomy is not the subject that will get you there. Lol.
As far as the zooms, the can all be used at any setting even between any of the marked focal lengths.
Aloha and great job again! I'm gonna get the Hyperion Zoom. I have a Tele Vue 2X Barlow coming, and hopefully it works well with this EP.
Should work great with the TV Barlow! Thanks, Vlad.
Bought this one yesterday, got a second hand piece for 135 USD, I'm over the moon. :) Can't wait for clear skies to use it, in my dobsonian. Will also check out your channel more, since you seem to give good down to earth advice and realize not everyone can throw tons of money on it.
Glad you scored the deal! It's an awsome eyepiece, enjoy!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and clearing some confusion for me. You definitely sold me that zoom :-). Keep going !!!
Thanks, I appreciate it!
Thanks a lot! We just received our 8SE and we're planning on appropriate EP for planetary observation. After looking extensively into Tele-vue, ES, Pentax, we ran into the BPH MarkIV zoom+barlow solution. Eureka, that was it for us. Although not unlimited, our budget will be invested into an eyepiece that will provide us the best all-around experience along with our new telescope which offers such potential when combined with the right optics. This year we're prioritizing on Jupiter, Saturn and Mars since they are presently in opposition and provide such details and brightness. And we will also be enjoying the rich details of the Moon. Later in the year we'll be looking at deep sky objects like Orion, Andromeda, Trifid, etc. We think that the zoom solution is the best for us since we don't have to remove ep, place ep, retarget, refocus, and is more convenient when our kids are participating. Your vid gave us more confidence into the Baader 8-24 zoom.
Good to hear. Congrats enjoy the views!
Love the Baader Hyperion. Fewer eyepiece changes. I use it to find the optimal magnification and then put a fixed focal length eyepiece with only slightly better optics to pull in the best planetary details. Love to zoom in on doubles and watch them split.
Yup, totally agree!
That's the reason I was thinking of buying it for; though I hear the optics are very good--especially for lunar.
Great tips for a noob like me. I have been holding off buying one as I did not know what to get. I will be looking at getting one now. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the review.. just ordered the baader for an 8se
Glad the video was helpful, enjoy the new eyepices!!!
So basically for planetary it's great, for imaging galaxies you should buy at least one extra 36mm
Not sure if your talking about visual but yes I'd recommend one wider field eyepiece for any kind of visual DSO in addition to the zoom👍
@@AVTAstro talking about visuals yes. Is it correct to say that short mm cheap ones are a better option since Jupiter is tiny anyway and you don't need a wide range of view. The bigger the mm are the more important is it to spend more. Correct?
A lot of the eyepieces provided with telescopes are actually modified achromats which will give a longer eye relief as opposed to plossl’s especially in the shorter focal lengths.
Depends on the brand I guess. Most Meade/Celestron scopes came with plossls.
Thanks for the excellent review . I may end up selling all my cheap Eye Pieces for one of these Baader Zoom Eye Pieces and add a 40mm Premium one later. I probably dont need the Barlow as I have a 1997 Celestron C-102/ 1000mm F10
Good to hear you found it useful! With the zoom at 8mm you will be at 125x. That's a decent amount of power but if your into planatery/moon/double stars I would also do a barlow.
That explained it thank you.
Glad you found the video useful👍
Hi Vlad I’m a total beginner for Astro, but I am a photographer your views please on Esprit 80 Ed apo triplet, thx in advance.
In all honesty I have not used that particular scope. I do know that a lot of people to hold them in high regard though!
Hey. Your videos are awesome. Very helpful. About the 6se which eyepiece would you recommend for someone with glasses. Ty so much for your wisdom.
Glad you found the videos useful! With eyeglasses you will want an eye relief of at least 20mm. These Orion eyepieces should be a nice budget friendly option: amzn.to/3nDdZ0F
On the higher end you would be looking at the TeleVue DeLite line: amzn.to/3nA56oM
@@AVTAstro Good Morning. I enjoyed my first night out on the patio just me my cats and the universe. Thanks to you i can get lost in space. Im a woman in the fight of my life. Your knowledge of astronomy is remarkable. This cancer aint gonna win. Too much to enjoy in the galaxy. Ty so very much for getting right back. Your my guide to serenity. God Bless
Glad to hear this about this zoom eyepiece. I bought this one and never used any other apart from my longer 40mm for wider view. I own Celestrons 9.25 and 5SE. Question I have for you.. The model I got is the Mark III, as I bought it right before Mark IV was released. I see you have this last one. Do you know if there’s significant optical difference between the two? Many thanks!
I had the Mark III and then later ended up with a Mark IV. They are the same optically. The main difference is that the zoom mechanism on the III can get really stiff when cold.
Greetings! Just purchased a Celestron 8SE and am impatiently waiting for it to arrive (backordered)!! You've sold me on this eyepiece; would the Celestron lens/filter kit be a wise purchase? Overkill?? Great vids and new sub.....keep it up!
Hi, congrats on the scope, you will love it! I think the kit is a pretty good place to start as that way you can get a good idea of what focal length eyepieces you prefer and have a decent filter set as well. Having said that I do think you will out grow the kit and want to upgrade quickly. Best, Vlad.
@@AVTAstro TY for the quick response!
I hope you'll excuse me, I wrote all this before I noticed this was about first eyepieces and not First Scopes, so I thought I'd ask here. I purchased a used Meade ETX125 and I was just curious if you have any videos on fixing the focuser (or removing the back)...when I rotate the focuser counterclockwise, it doesn't stop even when it is 2 inches away from the rear part of the scope. I have seen pictures of the rear plate off, but I'm afraid if I remove it, like a watch, parts may fly everywhere. My assumption is, if there is a stop on the helix of the focuser it may have come lose. I did look through it before I bought it but the cost came down even though it did focus but the travel back was too far. I know the ETX125 is a very precise scope, but from the picture of it with the back plate off, the mirror remained where it was supposed to be. Anyway, Mirror cleaning is what I first watched, good video. I like descent scopes that people have given to thrift stores and i rescue them before any kids knock them over. Pardons, If you don't mess with mechanical parts, what you have is fine, Telescopes are engineering marvels that go back 500 years or so.
Thanks, Jerry
Hi, sorry I do not have a video on this. I have not taken the focuser apart on an ETX.
Zooms are convenient, especially if you are doing outreach. 👍🔭 p.s. five thumbs up for Orthos.
Thanks!!!
Thanks for sharing all this. I was looking at a Celestron Zoom and reading some real Puritans saying "never ever use a Zoom", then I see your vid, glad I did.. X ) I'm basically a newb though I've enjoyed planetary viewing since I was a kid. I've got an Astromaster 130eq, researching upgrading the lens and after watching your vid I found a Baader Hyperion Zoom 8-24 Mark III with a Barlow. Do you think this is overkill for the scope? Any advantage to the Mark IV? No one has it in stock right now either.. I'll put together an SCT at some point, so I figure invest in a decent eyepiece in the meantime.. Great vids, Subscribed, Happy Holidays!
Hey Mark, so with your Astromaster 130eq you will have a magnification range of about 27x-81x. This covers ou very nicely for the low power range. I would in fact get the Baader Zoom and a 2x barlow so that you are then covered from 27x-162x! In general like I talk about in the video this is one eyepiece you will keep on using with most any scope you might get in the future.
As far as the Mark 3 vs 4, I have owned both. Optically I could not tell any difference. The main difference is that the Mark 3 zoom mechanism can get quite stiff when used in cold weather. The Mark 4 resolves this.
@@AVTAstro Great thank you very much for the input. I'll see, either I'll buy the mark III or later IV at some point. Have a Merry Christmas Vlad! ; )
Merry Christmas!!!
Thanks for the video man, I’m a beginner and just bought a Meade “Jupiter” series telescope NG-60 that came with no eye pieces. What should I start out with? It originally comes with a 9mm and 25mm but I don’t know if they’re used together or separate. What do u recommend I buy?
Congrats on the scope, that's actually basically the same scope as I started out in the hobby with! I would just start with a basic Plossl set & Barlow like this one: amzn.to/3r5XhWF
I am in NO WAY an advanced user. but I have used my hobby for girl scout / boy scout camps, elementry school outings. I use a simple LX90. the thing is, a new observer expects to see through a scope what they see in magizines... we here know that is not the case BUT, In my meager travels I have noticed that a wider field of view really helps when a novice viewer has to employ some imagination. although the price difference is REALLY HUGE and hard to do.
Good feedback on your experiance in regards to wide FOV eyepieces..👍
Thank you, very helpful video! I recently purchased a Dob with 1200mm FL and 8inch aperture. Would you recommend the Baader 8-24 mm for this telescope? I watched your video on telescopes, and you mentioned that Dobs require higher FOV eyepieces to prevent issues with detail along the outer edges. Thanks again!
Well the Baader Zoom will give you a magnifications range will be form 50-150x witch is very good for most any kind of observing besides high power planetary/Moon. Since the dob is probably manual a wider FOV eyepiece might be a better idea that gives you around 120-130x. The Explore Scientific 8.8mm 82* would be a good choice for a non-zoom alternative. Vlad.
@@AVTAstro Thanks! I've been looking into the 82 degree ES series. I would still like to purchase a few eyepieces that give me a similar range offered by the Baader Zoom. I was thinking a 24mm, 14mm, and 8.8mm from the ES 82 degreee with a 2x barlow would give me a decent range of 50-272x. From what I've read, its unlikely to achieve greater than 250x due to atmospheric conditions and the capabilities of these telescopes, so this would give me something to play with on those super calm nights. What do you think?
Edit - I would get a 2inch barlow with 1.25inch adapter.
@@cnfinnegan45 Yeah that would be a great set! Vlad.
@@AVTAstro Thanks for your input, Vlad!
I own all 3 of those eyepieces and they are all very good for the money. I think you will be very happy with that set! Best, Vlad.
Very helpful!
But I changed the speed at 1.5x and when you got to the part that I was interested your neighbor decided to mow the lawn. :)
Thanks for the comment! You know I think that was the heater that you hear. My "studio" was the garage right next to the houses heater in this video. Lol
nice collection eye pieces :D
Thanks!
Great video! One question on the Baader Hyperion Zoom : switching from 1.25" to 2" is actually just changing the adapter, not the optics. does this affect quality? Wouldn't a 'pure 2" ' have better optics?
Hi, there is nothing "better" about a 2" eyepiece. What it does is allows the eyepiece designer to need a wider total field of view out of an eyepiece. The Baader zoom is not wide enough to need this. Its usually eyepieces that are above 24mm that need to be 2".
@@AVTAstro Thank you, I understand now.
im buying my first eyepiece and i found many amateur astronomers saying that this is the best bang for the buck to go for and you cant go wrong as a first timer when you are just getting in to astronomy??
Well if me owning $3000+ eyepiece and the Badeer zoom being my most used one does not convince you idk what will.
@@AVTAstro can you give me your honest opinion should i just get badeer zoom and forget about svbony. I think you said the contrast and fov is better on the badeer? I just got my first 102/640 dob telescope but its cloudy 🙁 im also thinking about getting variable polarazing filter for better views of the moon, whats your opinion about them? Thanks
Unless you are very casual in the hobby I would easily say just get the Baader. I literally own 2 of them because I use them so much. LOL.
A lot of valuable information there. Thanks. I just got my celestron 8se. I am currently having plossal eyepiece kit with color filters that I bought along with the scope for $300. I am not sure if I should keep it or shall I get a couple other decent eyepieces instead. Could you please suggest?
Well I think at some point you will upgrade your eyepieces anyhow. So why not now if you have the funds? The nice thing about premium eyepieces is that they will past a lifetime!
@AVT-Astro Thank you so much for the reply. Could you please suggest the eyepiece series that I would head for? And, is Baader 8-24 zoom a good choice as an all in one eyepiece?
Especially for the 8se the Baader Zoom is a great eyepiece. It covers you for most of the magnifications that are the most useful. 83-250x. Great eyepiece to start with. Then Ad a wide field 30-40mm 68*(or higher) eyepiece and you will be very happy for years to come. I literally have an eyepiece case of 100* eyepieces that for the most part are not used. I use the Badder zoom and 40mm Explorer Sientific 68* on most nights.
Great. Will definitely consider buying a Baader soon. Thanks a lot for you time. Clear skies 🌌😊
Hi Vlad, for a more experience beginner just starting updating.. ho would you consider ES 68º vs the hyperion/morpheus baader series (68-76°) in terms of flatness at the edges and coma, especially with fast Dobs. Would you suggest ti go for ES or Baader options?
Unfortunately I don't have too much experience with the Morpheus line.
great video, can you recommend a good magnification for observing globulars and galaxies
For globulars 120-250x is good depending on how large a scope you have. I enjoy most galaxies around 120x.
@@AVTAstro I have a 9 and a quarter inch SCT
Thank you for an absolutely brilliant and insightful overview of eyepieces - really informative and very well presented - I really enjoyed it. I am a newbie, and have a Celestron AstroFi Mak 127mm and am wanting to upgrade the EPs. (I'm also thinking about upgrading the star diagonal). I'm torn between buying the Zoom you recommend or going for 2 ES's with a barlow. I think the Zoom would be great at the higher magnifications, but what I am thinking about is the lower power (24x). I love the idea of having a wide view and "looking through the spaceship window". Do you think the Zoom still gives a comfortable viewing field? I am considering buying a 2" star diagonal and then lower magnification ES with wide view for nebulas... Do you think that might be a good approach? Very much appreciate your time if you are able to reply. Cheers
The 127mm Mak that you have is a fine instrument! With the Zoom you will have between 55-165x witch very nicely covers you for about any kind of viewing with that aperture scope. Would I prefer a wider eyepiece in the low power range? Yes! what I would honestly do is buy the zoom now and then buy a 68* FOV eyepiece in the 30-40mm range in the future for that wide FOV experience.
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Upgrading the diagonal in general is a good idea and I would go with a 2". Most of them are fairly good if you get a dielectric coated one. ES makes a good one, I have had several.
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Best, Vlad.
@@AVTAstro Many thanks for your reply and getting back to me on this - very helpful. I'm glad you think the scope is a good instrument :) I have ordered the Hyperion Zoom (but couldn't order from your link as I'm in the UK). I'm wanting to get a wider FOV eyepiece for the low power, but have been advised that with my scope it might not benefit very much from a 2" star diagonal. The other option was to stick with 1.25" and go for a ES 68* 24mm 1.25". Not sure if this is true, or if there would be real benefit going to the 2". Thinking that 2" would be better in the long run for if I upgrade to a bigger scope too.
@@wodge73 It is true that you may not get some venting with a Mak and 2" wide field eyepieces. That does not mean they will not work. You are correct that in the future you are already one step ahead of the game if you get a different scope. I do own a pair of 24mm ES 68* and they are awesome so that's certainly a good option as well(though I would still go with something like the 34mm myself).
@@AVTAstro Thank you for replying. I need to buy a star diagonal for the scope, and would go for the 2" if it is an option, and then go for the 2" 34mm as you suggest. The only problem is I can't work out if I actually could use a 2" star diagonal with my scope. I think I might need an adapter? www.celestron.co.uk/shop/celestron-astro-fi-127mm-maksutov-cassegrain-telescope/
@@wodge73Yes you will need a 2" visual back to use a 2" diagonal. Not sure witch one will work with your scope so you will need to research that.
I owned a baader zoom a didn't find contrast that great for DSO. I was using it in nexstar 8SE. I was using with some light pollution, but I found my ES68 24mm much better. Did you have same experience or comment? I sold it but now I regret it because of convenience for planets. Have you compared meade, celestron or vixen to the baader? I had a meade too and found sharpness and contrast similar to baader but obviously smaller FOV. Maybe you have some thoughts on that too? Thanks for thorough explanation. I think with your vast experience your channel will catch on. Maybe as a suggestion make a bullet point list of what points you want to make during your video to avoiding stalling. But very informative so thanks and looking forward to more.
Hi, yes I actually do own an Explore Scientific 24mm 68*! If you are comparing the eyepieces you need to do it side by side on the same night. The WOW factor will certainly go to the ES24mm since its a much wider FOV compared to the Baader zoom @24mm. Again, I have compared the zoom to the best sharpest eyepieces and it is at least 90% as good in regards to sharpness and contrast. Hope this helps, Vlad.
Hi, Vlad! I like your reviews very much. I didn't know the Baader eyepieces and I'm thinking of buying a 6 mm classic ortho for planetary observing with my 1400 mm focal length Maksutov-Cassegrain telescope (100 mm aperture). My main objective is to see the Cassini division in the Rings of Saturn, and also the Great Red Spot in Jupiter. I read your review on that and I am a little bit concerned with the eye relief, but since I will not use it for more than one hour, I think it won't be a problem. What do you think?
Hi, with the 6mm you will be at about 233x. That's a fairly high power especially for a 4" scope. The image will be fairly dim and you will only be able to use it a few times a year if your seeing is anything like mine. I would honestly recommend the 10mm BCO instead. That will give you 140x witch can be used on most nights and will easily show you the Cassini Division. Vlad.
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@@AVTAstro Thank you very much!
I bought an UWA or ultra wide angle StarGuider 6mm that in my small 4" f4 works well, but in my 750mm f5 6" scope it doesn't work as well. I have a UW 15mm, but it is only half as long as the 6mm UW, but works considerably better in my 6" f5. They're inexpensive EPs, but it's all I can afford. I can't afford that Baader either since it's running near $400. What do you think of the Apertura 9mm-27mm zoom? It's $150 and the Celestron 8mm-24mm zoom is $110. Is the Apertura worth the extra $40?
Sorry, have never tried the Apertura zoom so can't comment on it. The Svbony 8-24mm zoom is nice at the price.
Thankyou for sharing this video! I just got a celestron SE8 on a standard fork mount, and was thinking about getting that zoom eyepiece. I was concerned about the fov, but it sounds like it will be fine. Would it be advisable to go with one more low power eyepiece above the 25mm, like maybe a 31mm? It seems to be harder to find a lower mm eyepiece to fit my standard 1.25 diagonal, with a good fov, and still keep to a lower budget. Is there one you may recommend? I am a beginner. Thankyou again.
Hey congrats on the 8SE! Its an awesome scope to start out with and I would have done just about anything to have it been my first scope back when I got into the hobby(I started with a 60mm Tasco Achromat)! If you are sticking with the 1.25" form factor I honestly would really just get the zoom and see if you feel like you really need a wider eyepiece. Issue is that with the 1.25" eyepiece you are maximized at 24mm 68*. While that is wider than the zoom at 24mm and 50* its not earth shatteringly wider. You really need to get a 2" eyepiece, 2" visual back and 2" diagonal to get a significantly wider FOV.
Check out my video on must have 8se accessories: th-cam.com/video/Xq4sjKXih0Y/w-d-xo.html
If your not going up to two inch soon check out my blog post on the ES 26mm 62* and 24mm 68*: avt-astro.com/explore-scientific-24mm-68-vs-26mm-62-eyepiece-review/
@@AVTAstro Thankyou for the fast reply! I am going to order that zoom when I am able. I was thinking about the 2" setup, but for my scope there seems to be more cons then positives for my model, even though it would work. What are your thoughts on the Baader hyperion aspheric 31mm. It says it is 1.25 and I thought it said it has a 72 fov. That is the only one anywhere I found that sounded good. Everything but the price for me. lol. I got my first telescope when I was 12, and it was a jason refractor. I saved up my money for it. Was not a high quality one but it was fun! I am watching all of your videos.
Have you ever tried one of these zooms in a Short Tube 80 clone? My son is awaiting the newly re-issued Orion version as his first scope. The 48* AFOV at 24 mm seems to defeat the purpose of that type of scope. I'm also concerned about relative weight on such a compact OTA, especially with the Barlow, since he'll be starting with a light alt-az mount or a fluid head video tripod. Lastly, how do you think the edges of the FOV will look in an inexpensive F5 refractor? I don't want to get him a better eyepiece that will emphasize any imperfections in the optics. Thanks in advance, there was lots of good insight in this video.
I have not tried it in a ST80. I have recently had a ST150 and it performed well with the zoom. In all honesty I did not evaluate the edge performance specifically. If you are going to put the scope on a lighter tripod balance bay be an issue with the zoom. You will really want to stick with simple plossl to 60* eyepiece designs to keep the weight down.
But you are right in general, for me the strength of the short tube scopes is in their wide field views and I would personally not use one over 100x(too much secondary color, if interested check out my review here: avt-astro.com/reviews/telescopes/celestron-omni-xlt-150-f-5-refractor-review/). Best, Vlad.
@@AVTAstro Thanks for the feedback. Nice review on the refractor, but not exactly the grab and go scope he is looking for. Between us we will have several 52* Plossls ranging from 32mm down to 10mm and a 2.5x Barlow. That will give him the 100x you mentioned. If you are familiar with them, would the AT Paradigm/Agena Starguider 60* eyepieces at $60 each be a worthwhile upgrade in the future, or better to make a bigger jump in quality than those? BTW you've got two new subscribers!
Bought the Baader zoom and is superb, though have only used it for daytime viewing via an amici prism. Also bought an Omegon 21mm panorama, and got a weird brown ring around the periphery of the view during daylight. D’ya reckon that’s normal, or a fault?
Glad you like the zoom! Pretty much all of the 100* eyepieces I have tried have this effect during the daytime. I doubt there is anything wrong with the eyepiece. Vlad.
I have a Jason 408 mercury telescope which included the eyepieces(F-4mm and F22mm) that were included and I'm tired of them cause they lack eye relief. Which are the best eyepieces I need for that telescope?
Hi, that's almost the same telescope that I started out with in astronomy! It kind of depends on what objects you are most interested in and your price range. Like I said in the video the Baader zoom is very nice but if you don't want to spend that much and want longer eyerilief and sharper optics this eyepiece set is hard to beat for less than $60!
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hola amigo q tal alguna vez sacaste el telescopio al campo q bateria trasportable de 6v podria comprar yo y q dure toda la noche para los motores de seguimiento ar dc
Hi, I do not know of any 6v batteries. I use a Yeti 400 12v.
starting out with astrophotography and found this very helpful will these work with the Orion 10" f/3.9 Newtonian Astrograph Reflector Telescope? it has the 1.25 and 2" adapter also do you need or can use the eyepiece filters? Also can it be used with a nikon d500 crop sensor ?
thanks Tom new subscriber
Hi Tom, you should be able to use any eyepiece with that scope no matter weather its 2" or 1.25". As far as the d500 it should work just fine but you may need an extension tube to reach focus. Best, Vlad.
@@AVTAstro thank you so many notes forgot to ask about ext tube thanks again
Thanks again
@@AVTAstro thanks last question saw some videos with the planetary 6mm zoom L zhumell zoom Eyepiece . can't find anymore do you have a recommendation? Thanks again , Tom
Sorry never used that one so I cant comment on it.
Hey I am interested in buying some eye pieces for my telescope it’s a Celestron explorer 127mm can you please recommend any.
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hey cool vid'z, I'm a beginner, I got a infinity 80mm. 6.3mm 9mm 26mm and a 2x barlow would 9mm be best with or without barlow2x? and what would you recommend upgrading?
Hi, it depends on what you are trying to observe with the 9mm. If you are looking at the planets then yes a barlow can help if the seeing is good that night. Sounds like you have a good basic set of eyepieces. Use that for a while and see what focal length you like best. Then look for a better eyepiece in that focal length such as the Explore Scientific 68*'s.
Thanks. 9mm with 2x Barlow. The moon is awesome.....
Thanks for the very informative video! I am an amateur astronomer with an 10 inch f5 dob. I only have the most basic of eyepiece collections and I want to get one that can give me a range of magnifications......would the baader hyperion zoom suite my telescope? Thanks in advance!
Hi, glad to hear that you found the video useful! The Baader Zoom will give you a magnification range of 53-159x. That is quite useful and will cover you for most of your observing needs!
@@AVTAstro Thank you for the quick response! The reason I was asking was that i've read that 'fast' telescopes like my f5 are more demanding on eyepieces. Please can you guide me whether the baader zoom will perform adequately?
Given that I make sure to get the collimation as perfect as possible and give the telescope enough time to acclimatize to ambient temperature outside
Well you may see field curvature in the last 20-30% of the field of view. Basically stars will look like little comets. F/5 is not that fast thought so I don't think it will be too bad if its there. If you want the best corrected eyepieces for this you really want TeleVue.
SVBony 8-24mm Zoom could be the same as the Baader Zoom but for 1/5 the cost
Never compared them so I cant comment. In general zoom eyepieces are not very good quality though. The Baader zoom was the first widely used exception to this rule.
I'm gonna put that Explore Scientific 30mm eyepiece on my 3" Tasco refactor telescope.
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More glass than the objective
Hi.. Am starting off and need your opinion between the celestron 5e and 6e..
I would honestly do the 6SE unless you really really need the smaller size/weight of the 5SE. Best, Vlad.
Can you do a video on filters?
I would love to do a video on filters. That's a pretty deep subject as there are tons and tons of different ones. An particular filters you are interested in? Vlad.
AVT-Astro I’ve recently been looking for a filter for deep space objects and I didn’t realize there are so many different ones it’s pretty overwhelming for the uninformed
@@AVTAstro I think a video explaining what the point of moon & skyglow filters are in the era of LED street lights would be good. Perhaps one explaining the advantages and disadvantages of narrower notches in nebula filters for visual use. Example: Baader O-III has a narrower notch than the Astronomik O-III but cuts off a bit of O-II light also, what is better for visual?
The link to your blog doesn’t work.
Thanks for the heads up. Fixed.
Hi, Thanks very helpful. a quick question, I have a cpc800 with the stock Celestron 1.25 94115-A Star Diagonal, I beieve the Hyperion can sit on both the 1.25 and the 2. So I am looking to upgrade to the 2, any recomendations for something mid range to compliment the Hyperion, and in your experience will they make much of a difference viewing wise (quality not fov) to the Stock Celstron?
Upgrading form the stock diagonal is a good idea and I would go to a 2" as you can buy 2" eyepiece in the future. Pretty much any brand Dielectric diagonal from China are good. They only ones that are much better would be a Baader, AP Maxbrite, or Televue Everbright. Even then its not a huge difference. Vlad.
@@AVTAstro Thanks for the quick reply. Sorry to be a pain, one more question. I have the Celestron Eyepiece and Filter Kit 1.25int which was bundled with the scope at purchase. Comparing this with the Hyperion zoom, is the main difference just the convienece (i.e. of not having to scramble in the dark for eypeices, having less to carry eround ect), or will there be a noticable difference in viewing quality. Im tempted to get the zoom, but apart from the ease of use with the zoom, is there another reason. Blunty put would I see more on a good night in the DSO's if I swopped between the two? are we talking improvent of 30%, 10%, 0%.
Good question. So I will start off by saying that there probably is not a modern eyepieces no matter how bad that will be 30% worst performing to the very best modern eyepiece no mater how good. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise...
Now to address your question directly. The Celestron eyepiece set that you have are certainly on the entry level. They will have a field of view that is probably 45-50* witch is narrow and will not use the best glass/coatings. Will the Baader zoom be better? Yes, it will show you a better more contrasty view on everything from planets to DSO's. How much better? I would say 5-10%. That might not sound like much but again there is no magic equipment that you can buy that will give you a 50% sharper/more contrasty view. Unfortunately it does not exists. This is true for most hobbies in that you pay disproportionately more to get the last 10% of performance.
Also I will point out that the convenience factor of the zoom might not sound like such a huge deal for you. Believe me it is. You are able to see more detail on objects by fine-tuning the magnification to exactly what the seeing/object will support on that night. You also do get a nice wide field of view in that 12-8mm range with the zoom. So its like buying a sharper set of ortho eyepieces in the 24-13mm range plus a set of wide-angle eyepiece in the 12-8mm range. Its an awesome eyepiece!
@@AVTAstro Im loving this, its like my own personal consultant, thank you so much. However feel free to ignore me when I start asking more and more things, I won't be offended ;D. I agree with your statement regarding the 10% on hobbies, Ive played guitars for years and the standard even on the most cheap entry levels these days has got decent enough that its really just the luxuries you are paying for, similar. to cars and most technology etc.
I also agree with the convienence factor, I didnt meant to down play it its a huge factor. Even in my own back garden with all kit at hand its annoying fiddling about trying to find the right ep even with just five of them, gettng the right one without turning on lights ect, guessing at what would work best swopping back and forth, all while trying to keep your eyes adjusted. I appreciate learning the limitations of each ep is part of the journey and all comes with experience but the overall ease and comfort of not having to constantly stop, change/fiddle about is certainly attractive, especially where I ive in the Uk when the clouds are somewhat erratic, at the end of the day all you want to do is sit back in a comfy a chair and see whats out there thats the fun factor (well for me). Currently I spend half my time looking down at my kit and not up at the skies.
I think im probaby going for the zoom, ive done a fair bit of reading up, for both the pro and cons and I think the for novice astonomer like me its probably perfect for now, I know zooms of the past have got a sketchy rep with some people, but with the convienece it does seem a bit of a game changer.
In regards to an additional eyepeice for a wide view , I can get by with the entry level 32 ep 1.25 for now, but will swop out to a 2" for a better FoV at some point. Any recomendations thats mid price, (anything from £150/$150-300ish.) thats considered a reliable workhorse. Just for general viewing, nothing specialised and just for viewing. Mostly just to cover clusters and the larger DSO's. I think my goal kit wise is to have a modest little set up, it doesnt need to be the best, not to mention my wife would kill me if she started adding up the reciept :D Thanks again.
Glad to help! With a c8(or any SCT) I would do about as wide as possible. I really like the ES 68* eyepieces. The 34mm would be a great choice and in your budget.
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Is there an advantage with a 2 inch eyepiece over a 1 1/4
All that 2" gives you is the ability to go wider field of view. 1.25" tops out at 24mm and 68*. With 2" you can go to 41mm 68* as an example.
I’m a noob also so my question is , I have an 8 inch dob , at what point do you get 2 inch eyepieces opposed to 1.25 , mine accepts both ?
Well you want 2" if you want to get a wider field of view. There is no other advantage to the 2" form factor besides letting you achieve a wider FOV.
AVT-Astro thanks
have you ever used masuyama eyepieces, they are some of the best ive ever come across.
I actually have not. These days there are so many options it's hard to keep up!
@@AVTAstro haha, then you haven't tried the best.
You have my interest. Have you compared them to Explore Scientific or TeleVue eyepieces?
@@AVTAstro televue yes, leave them at home in favour of the masuyamas any day of the week, the only other eyepieces that ive used were the Takahashi eyepieces that were very comparable although not as wider field, explore scientific, no eye dear..I really didn't bother with anything else. You have to at least try them to know the difference, used on my Astro-Physics105mm f6 EDFS, the boys with their 10" SCT telescopes where always coming over to view through my scope and although they didn't say much, they didn't have to lol, It was a consensus at star parties that really sealed the deal, I had an unbeatable combination, the power of that scope matched with the masuyamas in good seeing conditions, well enough said, the smiles said it all.
if your smart you won't buy anything smaller than a 90mm diameter, unless all you want to do is look at the moon or sun!. svbony makes really good and cheap plossl's and super plossl eyepieces, and they are all multicoated with green film and are well made. and they have 2 or 3 different levels of pricing going from 20 bucks to 50 bucks
Yup like I said in the video nothing wrong with Plossl eyepiece! In general they are pretty sharp and the major downside is the narrow FOV.
Definitely a Televue type 5 Nagler 31mm
Well I don't think to many people will disagree that the 31mm Nag is an excellent piece of glass. I have owned one several times over the years. Excellent for maximizing your low FOV desires!
AVT-Astro one year ago when I got my first telescope, I thought maximum magnification of an eyepiece is the only thing that matters because all I wanted to observe are planets. But now that I know there are much more things out there I can observe such as many emission nebulas, which usually come with angular size two or three times bigger than that of our moon, than I realize the size of the field stop, the apparent field of view and the exit pupil of an eyepiece are more important compare to other specifications. It all depends on what you want to observe, and what your telescope are design for, there is no one eyepiece able to accomplish everything at once, most likely people will end up collecting more than two eyepiece.
That refractor behind you is a beast, what is that?
A Bazoka 😂
Yeah its huge! Its a Meade 178ED. 7" APO.
@@AVTAstro Do you have any images taken from that beast?
@@mik310s No, that scope is a visual rig.
turn the playback speed to 1.25 and save some time in your life
Lol, like I said at the start of the video this is not going to be a quick 5min optimized TH-cam subscriber wormhole so sorry about the leanght. This is made for someone interested in getting some in-depth info on eyepieces from someone that has owned and used them all. Vlad.
@@ThePowerM3 length is all good lol just talking speed. Its a awesome video still! Im trying to figure out whats going to be best for my Nexstar 8SE. Would of loved the Hyperion 8-24mm Mark IV Zoom Eyepiece but of course its back ordered
Thanks for the feedback I do really apreciate it!
nice may i have it
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More content please. Dry! But I'm dry.
What kind of content? Thanks, Vlad.
AVT-Astro , the content is fine. I’m just saying you have no expression... very dry. A little humor, expression or anything else you can muster up would give your audience a connection to relate with. Even the most dire circumstances can use a bit of humor. Covid19 is taking its toll. So wash your hands, and other private parts, extensively. You see? I like what you do...but
Cool, thanks for the feedback I really appreciate it!
I found the instructor knowlegable, but jumped all around in his explanation, and very confusing
Thanks for the feedback!
Stop talking about yourself, we all know your history, and just get into the topic
I do belive that was my first video posted on youtube. Besides a handful of my astro club members no one knew my history at the time;)
This guy talks like a ventriloquist
Don't make me get the puppet out! LOL.
At $ 850.00, this is NOT a beginner eyepiece. Maybe if you are a Bill gates or Jeff Bezos. That's about 3x the price of an average beginners good telescope. Get real.
Wait, a Baader zoom is $850?? What planet are you writing this from? Lol.
@@AVTAstroLOL HAHAHAHAHAH ily 😍