I used Antifreeze to cool a PC
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- I am always asked what would happen if you used antifreeze to cool a computer... well lets find out!
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Use mayo as a coolant. I want to see if an instrument would cool a cpu properly.
*****
Thanks. I bought it on Amazon.
mayo works well as thermal paste
No mars, mayonnaise is not an instrument!
you're just not playing it right...
Razerr, it only works if you have russian windows installed
I used antifreeze to cool my car...
Pienimusta Antifreeze isnt designed to have better cooling ability than water. You can put plain water in your car, and it will work fine as a coolant. The only problem is if it freezes, it could damage your car. Thats the only reason it's necessary.
Right? This girl at works radiator leaked all summer. She constantly topped off with antifreeze, in 90 degree weather..... I tried my best to explain, but would never believe me she could use the hose. Probly spent a fortune....
... but then i took an arrow to the knee.
To be clear, you're using water to cool your car, the anti-freeze is to widen the temperature range it remains liquid and prevent corrosion.
Russ Andrew it also helps with boil temps some engines that are verry high performance can boil the fluid if it is just water
It's not a bad idea if you are in Siberia, and you often leave your PC outside overnight, and need to start it without waiting for it to thaw-out...
why the hell do you leave it outside ?
For some time I thought it'd be interesting to overclock a PC and see if the -40℃ winter weather can passively cool it. lolz
Maybe I'll do that with my current rig? ...when I finally get around to building a new one.
well if there is enough airflow around it it should work, but you still need a proper passive cooler for that since the heat has to go away from the actual cpu
you wont need water cooling in that weather air cooling is way more than enough
I have an overclocked pc up against a drafty window.
The "reaction" at the beginning is just the remaining water in the system mixing with the ethylene glycol.
I had that thought but wasn't exactly sure
yeah on the bottle stands do not add water
@@FREAAAAAK97 That's because it was a 50/50 mix. There are some bottles of antifreeze you need to mix with water. You should optimally have a 50/50 mix.
Yes, It was just the distilled water floating up to the top because the coolant is just so slightly heavier than water.
@@nimmen yes, ethylene glycol will sink in water as it is denser and we can observe that. At the same time it diffuses in the water since both are miscible, as this happen the refraction index of the mixture changes. This causes the effect we see, it happens everytime two different miscible liquids are mixed, it even happens if you mix hot and cold water together. Fun fact, it is the same effect you see when you look at a hot road or a hot pan and you see the "heat" emanating from it.
Liquid Nitrogen, just for shits and gigs.
Dylankobe24 There is actually a liquid nitrogen community. Some people do it.
Dylankobe24 that's what pro overclockers use for world records
Inside a closed loop it'll simply evaporate, expand and explode the tubes.
I'm aware that the "pro's" use it, I just want to see destruction.
Thales Sousa yeah closed loops don't work, they put a jar of some sort directly on the CPU and pour it in manually
*Next on JayzTwoCents: "I used my Piss to cool a PC"*
As always great video Jay!
Bear Grylls Special?
Lmao
science bitch!!
I think it would cause corrosion from the acid in piss xD idk
Bear:"Jo Jay, can you build me a slick custom PC?"
Jay:"Sure, we should use your piss as a coolant."
Bear:"That's a great idea!"
But did Windows freeze?
They used antifreeze. It stop all freezing...
Only if you pour it on your boot drive
it would've froze with water
No joke, Jay. I just did a new loop for my system. This time around I'm using EK cryofuel because I wanted my liquid to be clear, but before that I tried something new and I ran Antifreeze and distilled at a 9:1 ratio and I have to say, I'm super impressed. I took my CPU block apart and not a single trace of buildup and I ran the liquid for a year. As I said, I'm using cryofuel this time around because I was sick of the green haze my liquid had, but if this doesn't work, I may just return to the antifreeze and water mixture as it ran like a champ for so long. Just reporting in and letting you know!
Bruh what 2000 iq play is that
I'm hesitant to use antifreeze but Liquid Utopia is only so good and it's definitely not worth $15 for a 15ml bottle considering you're supposed to mix that 15ml bottle in with 1 gallon of distilled water which is $7.50 per coolant change. In 8 years of having a water loop, I had to replace 1 copper radiator due to corrosion and that was even with changing the water every ~6 months. Antifreeze is $15 for a gallon jug of concentrate, it's just a question of whether it works better than Liquid Utopia or not. I'm using that pvc braided fda approved tubing instead of pc watercool tubing because hopefully it has better chemical resistance as advertised. O-rings, the reservoir and part of my cpu waterblock could still get degraded by the antifreeze.
I saw this recipe on the internet for a homemade corrosion inhibitor one time that I've lost the source to but basically the guy used sodium molybdate and benzotriazol to make something that held off corrosion on aluminum and copper in salt water for longer than liquid utopia did. I'm running an experiment with stainless steel, copper, aluminum in bottles of distilled water and different corrosion inhibitors including antifreeze but of course it will be a long time before I see any results.
So how was it? Tell us!
@@wuspoppin6564 I wasn't able to acquire benzotriazole to make my own corrosion inhibitor. The only viable listing for it on amazon sold out by the time I was ready for it. However in my experiment, green ethylene glycol antifreeze has performed better than liquid utopia. The copper is already shinier in the antifreeze solution than in the liquid utopia solution and it's only been a month. The aluminum in the liquid utopia is already starting to darken and corrode. The aluminum in the antifreeze is still shiny. The stainless steel fittings in both is still shiny with no signs of corrosion.
Once enough time has passed for the results to be more obvious on camera, maybe I'll make a video about it.
@@scotts-tech Don't hesitate to share the results when you got them.
The point of antifreeze isn't to cool, it's to control freezing, boiling and corrosion. Water is a better coolant. That's why antifreeze is mixed with water.
He obviously knows this, and is why he didn't want to do the video. He just decided to listen to the idiots on youtube and prove them wrong. Everyone thinks they know something on here.
The use of antifreeze is to stop bacterial infection not the cooling. And it works just fine never use more then a 1/10 mixture though.
You use silver for that kappa. You don't need to put extra chemicals in there.
😩Antifreeze is mixed with water to raise the boiling point and lower the freezing point
Ya. Because water freezes at 0c, which is bad if that's all up in your cooling system while the outside temps are below 0c. Oils, like the one used in anti-freeze, generally have a lower freezing point and thus allowing your coolant to remain liquid at sub 0c temperatures.
It doesn't cool as well as water, but it still cools better than Ice that doesn't flow and constricts your system. :D
5:22 "My tube is flopping around" and you didn't make a joke? I'm very disappointed Jay.
This is how you know he really didn't give two shits this video.
+jlrockafella I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're joking.
+coinsagE46m3 You may be very disappointed, this is the internet after all.
NOT SURE IF JOKING, OR JUST CONFUSED. lol
im dead
The "reaction" is the coolant mixing with water. For me as a Car mechanic it normal to see that because I have to dilute this stuff myself depending on the expected lowest temperature in the winter...
Just the different densities of the coolant & distilled water as the less dense water is rising & mixing.
"I kinda wanted to see catastrophic failure, I'm sorry." - Need more of that guy!
Use alcohol
-CLM15- and when run out of VOTKA just drink your lupe liquid
:)))
alcohol will likely evaporate over time, plus its not great on the plastics
Isopropanol reacts with acrylics, so if you have an acrylic block or pump top/res then it'll be bad.
The thermodynamic properties of alcohol are considerably worse than water. Water with as few additives as possible is the best. If it won't react with your tubing, a little antifreeze is usually the best. Otherwise, good quality metal fittings (to avoid corrosion) and a little PT Nuke (to prevent growth) is a good alternative.
I've been running a bit of anti-freeze in the loop to prevent corrosion, to act as a lubricant, and to act as an antimicrobial for a couple years. I've never had a problem with soft tubing or or other plastics.
depends entirely on the plastics, as he notes.
Jason Gregory , yeah I don't think it'd cause any problems as you have rubber and plastic pipes already in a car.
it won't drop Temps because it's just destilled water and ethenol, you can get temp dropping coolant for cars and race cars that should drop Temps though. some of those drop Temps down by 10 degrees.
The plastic in your car is specifically chosen to withstand getting eaten away by antifreeze. Some soft tubing used here might not compare at all.
I use Car antifreeze since 10 years and still have the same pump from then no problems. That Jay uses a 1/1 mixture straight out of the bottle shows already that he doesn't know what he is talking about, never use more then a 1/10 mixture...
There is no need to use a thick mixture of ethylene glycol or propylene glycol, this is a low temp application and all it is doing is acting as a growth inhibitor. Which is why using a 1/10 or 5% mix is all that's needed.
I used an antifreeze coolant mix with my CORSAIR Nautilus 500 Complete External Liquid Cooling Sytem for at least 3 years running 24/7. Better heat transfer as well.
it didnt damage the plastics on the water block of ur gpu??
@@Zfast4y0u Why would it? It's made to be safe for all materials found in a cooling system. Steel, iron, aluminum, copper and Plastics. And there are many different coolant formulas these days, many oems specify a specific mix for their vehicles
I'm glad you did this video cuz I've always had a question of my head
600,000 views and $16 is over budget
Gotta afford a GTR somehow.
In his defense, he did say over budget for "this" video... Which could be anything... He could start, and say the budget for this video is, $4. Which would put $16 over budget...
for such a shitty video? yeah id say $16 is over budget, sure it probably netted him more than enough but it still is a shitty idea.
Redredret
Well, he got $30 for the video anyway (if he monetize it) it should be more, but Wall street journal made advertiser pull their ads from TH-cam.
Also the master case ad got him money
You do realize commercial PC cooling liquids are nothing more than ethylene glycol, distilled water and color additives, right? I've been using antifreeze for private and industrial cooling solutions for over 20 years now. Get the red VW stuff, 1,2-ethanediolalcohol. Not the cheapest but literally lasts forever.
Exactly!! I've been using Prestone for 10 years, not one issue attributable to the liquid, but one or two attributable to me(the great ruined EVGA board of 2007 comes to mind.) I uh, didn't check my hose connections thoroughly.... / : Haven't tried the VW stuff yet, I will.
Jay thinks he is the watercooling guru... he only thinks that though.
SchwererGustav800mm
He also didn't dilute the AF, 1:1 is too heavy and will not cool as well.
it was pre-mixed antifreeze, already diluted.
megaspeed2v2
Yeah, I saw the video. It needs to be 15:1 or less.
I've used anti-freeze as a coolant in my liquid cooled system for 4 years, and haven't had any problems yet. My reasoning at the time was that anti-freeze's anti-corrosive properties have been proven for something like 100 years now, and that PC watercooling is a fairly niche market. I kinda doubt the specialty PC cooling manufacturers put any research into their specialty liquids. I built my liquid cooling system from the cheapest parts I could find, including used parts from ebay, so I''m sure there are dissimilar metals in the loop, which would've corroded with just plain water. I'm not sure what type of tubing I used, but it hasn't failed yet. It is slightly cloudy now, but that's about it.
Do you got acrylic in the loop.I just wanna make sure it works with that before I put it in my system
thermal paste, USE THERMAL PASTE!
Dhruv Jat uh. Thermal paste is... well. A paste. Not a liquid
Liquid metal
Johnnyboycurtis liquid metal contains gallium, it will weaken any aluminum.
Dj Mystery That is the least of the worries. Metal is very very very dense. Like over 10 times as dense as most normal liquids, so the pump would have to be 10 times as powerful. Then there’s the problem of the super dense liquid metal going through the tubes not breaking the tube itself.
Dhruv Jat that would be a bitch on the pump
Vodka loop. How well does a computer work with a blood alcohol level of 40% ?
nichogenius alcohol poisoning
Russian hackers will attack your system and download all your coolant.
blood alcohol doesnt work like that it is actually its actualy water-alcohol level
Nick Christensen 🤩🤩😂😂
killer1986chris No, they would drink all the alcohol leaving only water.
try gasoline or petrol as liquid coolant
Juan Castillo flammable liquid in electrical enviroment?
as long as there is no sparks or static.....
thats is quite the stupid idea
I believe the immense heat from the cpu could cause it to combust, which is a big nono
i just want to point out i said nothing about combusting. i only said it would be a dumb idea. so about you chill a bit with immediately yelling at americans for any reason
I think the main reason using this would be longevity, you can leave it for years without having to maintain it, you just need to watch out for what tubing you're getting which this video does explain very nicely
I think the best to be safe would probably be glass tubing
Best way to end a video: "this video was entirely pointless, thanks for watching"🤣
Spoiler Warning please 😡
use cooled water i guarantee that it will run cool
Puts ice in reservoir, reservoir builds up condensation as well as tubing and leaks on components, my computer brokededed
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Rekt
wat?
ive thought about doing that but insulating the tubing/reservoir to prevent the condensation leaking down on your components, place down a fine screen in the res to separate the ice from the tubing so small bits dont flow down the tubing
The temperature of the fluid is a secondary issue, a side effect. What matters is how quickly you dissipate the heat from the system. The hotter the fluid is, the more quickly the radiators will dissipate heat. So, the components will heat the fluid until it is hot enough that the radiators will cool the fluid at the same rate that the components are heating it. Similarly, larger/more radiators will dissipate heat more quickly as well, so the fluid doesn't have to get as hot.
Chilling the fluid works exactly the same as a radiator; it just adds a lot more steps between the fluid and the ambient air. And, in practice, you wouldn't chill the water below ambient temperature (no reason to). So, a water cooler is just an elaborate heat exchanger. Even using ice from your freezer is the same principle.
Only a few things are worth changing. The number or size of radiators and the CFM of air passing through the radiators. And, radiators are basically just heat sinks. So, water cooling is basically just air cooling with larger heat sinks on your components that use heat pipes made of flowing water.
Can you use Blood to liquid cool a PC?
lol it would clot before any tests are completed.
AwesomeAsim I thought Jay's blood is water. ;)
Sahendra Mallick *hits blunt*
+CoolAsACucumber
to entertain this ridiculousness.... you could mix 50/50 blood and anti-coagulant.
***** and we could use multiple refrigerator radiators to get that near 0c cooling.
Jay needs to hire us for ideas...
Linus used this for his whole room cooling project, if I remember correctly. And it just got all filled with biolfilm from things growing in it, because it doesn't have a biocide...
Ignore the corrosion crap, PLENTY cars (im a mechanic) come into the shop with plastic on the top of the radiator.
plastic thermostat housings.
many rubber orings specifically water pump.
many different metals the headgaskets often have copper /aluminum/ steel
most bearings are made of brass, copper, aluminum etc.
like i said already 6 years strong on anti-freeze, no issues WHATSOEVER.
did you know the anti freeze also works as a lubricant on your water pump?
THUS - lubricating your.. pc...water... pump ? for lack of better words LOL
literally i have suggested this for so long.
ive been watercooled since about 2009. after a couple years of fiddling and farting with my setup
i no longer cared to replace black light strips (UV)
no longer cared to replace fans and color match everything.
didnt care if my tubes glowed or not..
now i keep it simple. i picked a cool color anti-freeze, diluted the crap out of it
and got a reservoir and whatnot that matched.
yep dilute the antifreeze and add it in, it will turn a bit brown but no biggie,, I also find the fluorescent green very cool with my lights,,, when turn brown and glow goes away still good change it if u want. i probably add ten to twenty percent
So, Water pumps have bearings, and bearings have seals!
there is also a seal protecting the bearing itself!
Water pumps have a WEEP hole to alert you when this hidden seal has failed.
allowing coolant directly onto the bearing itself. which quickly breaks ITS seals down,
and dont allow the bearing to reach the end of its target life span.
Not rocket science here or anything.
YES coolant lubricates seals, bearings, etc. its what it is designed to do
hope i never need to take a car in to your shop...the weep hole is there to let you know the seal hasfailed, water is ALREADY getting in, its life span is essentially done at that point, more or less. the fluid in the coolant system of a vehicle doesn't lubricate anything...its designed to transfer heat out of the engine to the radiator and heater core, each and every bearing its close to is sealed...the last thing you want getting into one is water brah
Why were you farting with your pc? That is something that I cannot figure out. Or was it indicating something else😉
bingo.
plus if he had black light in the build it would glow :)
Use gallium to cool your pc
In aluminum tubing right? :D
Gab:P
PRO-digi if you turn off the computer it would go solid
+Gab
even just aluminium cooling block is all you'd need.
Brad Hintz Depends on iff you use pure gallium or an alloy that has a lower melting point
The wavy lines you saw in the reservoir, right after adding the ethylene glycol, is from the density change in the liquid. Since the small amount of distilled water that was left in the system is less dense then the ethylene glycol, it floated to the top from the inlets at the pump. It's the same effect you get from looking through hot air above a heat source.
Kane Fame Thanks for the info 🐨
Kane Fame I am wondering what is used in fridges and whether similar fluid could be used? Or liquid propane gas though I suspect that would be rather dangerous lol. Gas always feels cold though, is there any non flammable gases?
Devin Williams used to use Freon but now I do not know
Lots of non flammable gases exist. Like Air, which is a mixture of gases, Oxygen, Nitrogen, carbon dioxide, water vapor, and lil bit of argon. However the effect you suggest is different than liquid cooling. Refrigerators use a compressor to condense a refrigerant called HFC-134a(a non ozone depleting gas a.k.a. 1,1,1,2-Tetrafluoroethane ) inside and a radiator on the back to dissipate heat gathered by the refrigerant inside. This method of cooling requires the coolant to undergo a phase change from liquid to gas and the energy absorbed is released thus cooling the system. In liquid cooling there is no phase change and the radiator is there to remove the heat from the liquid as it absorbs it from the cpu/gpu. Liquid nitrogen is a sort of easy to picture example of this phase change cooling with no compressor(well if you dont want to save your liquid nitrogen haha) but imagine a simple setup, one you wouldn't do in real life but its again easy to picture. A metal cup of liquid nitrogen in perfect contact with a cpu that is on. As the cpu gets hot it will boil the liquid nitrogen, the phase change as the nitrogen boils, liquid n2 absorbs heat from the cpu phase changing into gaseous n2. Liquid nitrogen doesn't cool the cpu because its cold, its because liquid nitrogen's boiling point is -320.4 *F so the cpu is effectively a hot plate on a stove boiling a pot of liquid nitrogen, its just counter intuitive to imagine something so cold is because its boiling because we are so used to water boiling at a hot temperature relative to us. Pretty sure quantum computers use a similar mechanism to refrigerators just a more complex and insulated version to get temperatures cold enough for it to exhibit quantum characteristics.
I know I'm late to the party on this one, but the reason your tubing turned purple is what is referred to as "tube burn". You see it in older hot tubs. The long term movement of hot water discolors the tubes, typically into a maronish/brown color. I'm guessing yours is purple because of the green liquid you've been using.... cheers!
definately not a pointless video, I was wondering this myself and you answered every question I had and for this, you earned your thumbs up and a suscribe!
Video entirely pointless, subbed.
Same here!
Same bru same
Any fries as a coin. Lol
Poopies
my PC is semen cooled
how are your thermals?
Overide447 hot
That's why it's called a master race. We merge with our machines.
legends say if you add a an ovule to the reservoir a fetus will appear
Steve Chung I could fill it in a day.
Loved the music change in the video. Had me laughing!
I usually open 3-4 tabs with Jayz's videos and play them simultaneously!
I think that weird shit in the antifreeze when u first put it in was jsut the water that was in the bottom not mixing intermediately with the antifreeze
This.
Need to has the drama tho
Ya. Water is lighter than the 'antifreeze' oil so after pouring it would settle by going upwards to float on top of the antifreeze.
Could also be the heat from the pump. Like a lava lamp, the heated liquid is traveling towards the top.
yeah its exactly that. Like when you mix water and fruit juice
Try lava lump fluid.
not very good at conducting heat.
Team WaveHD it's mineral oil it would just lube up your pc lol
John Douglas Oil is far better conductor than water or anything else. Ultra high-end engines are oil-cooled
Mihkel Laansoo My teacher at this program at my school had a PC cooled by Mineral Oil. he had barrels of oil in one of the closets in the classroom
dude you right and with the right viscosity might be better than water and a leek wont kill your machine
From my personal experience... I have two water cooling rigs. One with soft tubing (Tigon chemical resistant tubing with dual D5 pumps) and the other with hard tubing (Acrylic with dual DDC pumps).
Soft tubing rig (i7-5930k with graphics card cooling) has been running on Castrol Radicool (engine coolant) with a concentration of around 60% coolant and the rest distilled water since 2015.
Hard Tubing rig (FX-8350 with graphics card cooling) has G12+ VW engine coolant running through it with similar concentrations since 2016.
(Bought pure engine coolant on both and did my own mix).
So far... no problems, no leaks. No abnormal temp fluctuations since the first day I ran them till today. And I did not change the coolant ever. I have extra temp sensors in the loops keeping an easy watchful eye on them, not to neglect the built in system temp probes. All pumps are speed monitored. Nothing has changed what so ever. I even have digitally monitored flow meters.... no reduction in flow at all. Same exact numbers... no precipitates, no extra softness or visual wear on the tubings.
However, I do not have enough information to evaluate whether it is a more efficient method of cooling. Probably not... pure distilled water would probably be the best despite its drawbacks... but as for longevity... so far so good.
At the rnd of the video, you wanted to know how long it works. My antifreeze coolant has been running 2 years without discoloration or any other immediate signs of wear.
Onto the next cliche question!! Can you cool your PC with beer and call it Drunkworks?
A fairly priced lukewarm basket of chicken wings badum tss
Hey, why don't you use antifreeze as a coolant?
dude that's epic
Now all he has to do is make a video on this exact topic. You genius
kapil busawah he was being sarcastic
nah fam great idea
Rogelio Oblea thanks
You should try a coolong liquid called evans waterless coolent, they make a thinner mixture for smaller motors, they have a non corrosive mix that is great for cooling.
I've had a system running on the blue Chrysler antifreeze for years now. DDC pump with acrylic top, flexible tubing, acrylic tube res etc. Just took it apart and cleaned it but it was just about spotless. So it has plastic, acrylic, nickel plated copper, copper, 2 brass fittings, and whatever else. Nothing was ruined, cracked or crazed.
there might not be a difference in using anti-freeze and other liquid for cooling but you could try placing Black Lights since anti-freeze (ethylene glycol / propylene glycol) is known to glow under black lights.. if you are into decorations :)
Jay this video wasn't entirely pointless. You are entirely... amazing.
I enjoyed it. Do your thing Jay, call stupidity when it's presented!
I enjoyed it. Do your thing Jay, call stupidity when it's presented!
2 years later, being *very* reluctant to water cooling in micro computers. You answered one of my questions. As recommended maintenance is 2 times per year, using car cooling liquid (cheaper) works but, as you said, what about plastics ...
hey, why dont you use dr pepper as a coolant.it'll fix you pc if it gets hurt.
So I ran a test. I routed my cpu and sli water cooling tubing out of my room and into my attic so the cold air outside will cool my radiators.
the experiment came to a quick end after the temps outside reached cold enough to cause condensation on my water blocks. I even had to unplug the fans from the dual 480 rads to prevent dangerously low temps. there will NEVER be a scenario where ANTI FREEZE is necessary.
Edit: location Detroit.
side note, the computer could never be turned off to prevent the water
temps from going low enough to begin condensation on the water blocks. I
literally would run games in the main menu at 5760x1080 as my "idle"
and temps were in the 30's C when ambient temps in the attic were 30-45F
with the fans on the rads off.
I guess it's kind of like a cold bottle of water or glass of iced sweet tea sitting out in the summer sun in the south.
I used Glysantin G30 Antifreeze/Anticorrosive for years. Worked just fine.
Here, here, diddo 6y.
@JayzTwoCents, can you do a video about coolants durability? I'll have a machine running 24/7 (home hobby project server) and I'd like to have coolant since it looks very decent. But I'm not sure about the durability of it. Will it cause more problems in terms of degradation or anything else? Thanks in advance! I'm a big fan of your videos, keep up the good work!
Miss crazy videos like these!
You should leave the antifreeze in a closed loop that isn't connected to a real system (even, could set up a loop in a case that you aren't using for anything with parts from storage). Then, run the pump a few times a day for a set period of time, just to show how the coolant will dissolve the plastic tubing over time and show how that affects the pump, radiators, and blocks. The real trick would be figuring out a way to generate heat in the loop. (I only suggest this assuming that you wouldn't want to destroy any computer parts, aside from extra watercooling gear that you may have.)
It wont dissolve the plastic, it will harden it. This hardened tubing gets brittle and will eventually crack and leak, especially around high concentration areas like fittings.
depends on the tubing, I've been running a loop on full load for years with just some decent PVC tubing and ~20% antifreeze
PVC normally has some problems with alcohol on higher cpu temperatures. But it really depends on the alcohol and what additives you have in your PVC.
lowbudgethero PVC tubing is safe to use with ethyl glycol. 20% antifreeze is right on the edge for anti bacterial properties, I would run 25-30% just to be safe and more effective, but you're doing it right it appears.
The R4v3n Nevermore what about milk
I have an idea ... Use vodka !! Beware of explosions tho ...
bubu mic vodka isn't explosive. try some rum.
Leah Ryder I'm 14. LEGAL CASE!!!! WOOO
The reaction you were seeing was distilled water in ethylene glycol rising from the pump. They distort light differently. As thermals go it would be best to have water as much as possible but it's the corrosive (electrolyte solution) element in the system. If not when filled then after few months when it gathers some ions from the system. That is why you never mix 2 different metals in the loop (like Al and Cu).
I've used motorcycle race coolants in my closed loop system for lulz, it's been fine for 4 years now, however I replace the coolant each year in the winter. Just to be safe because coolant is only good for 1-2 years anyways until it's cooling properties start to degrade. There is no difference in cooling.
🙋I was wondering about the biodegradable engine ice. But I guess I'd there's no difference 💁✌️
Automotive coolant is good for 5 years
Holy cow... I just replaced my coolant in my cooler again, forgot I even commented... So that coolant lasted for 5 solid years, I got bored and wanted to try "Engine Ice" in my cooler. Zero ill-effects and my radiator was spotless from my 4 year old Honda Blue 50/50 coolant lol. I will say, WATER WETTER would probably be your best bet as far as being silly with automotive coolant. Distilled to a 70(Water) / 30(Coolant) split. Remember, DISTILLED water out performs coolant in cooling capabilities but provides little to no lubrication to the pump and offers no corrosion resistance.
@@rjames7380 After 5 years of Honda Blue 50/50, today I used Engine Ice, dropped my CPU temps 8 degrees Celsius over the Honda 50/50 comparing new to new.
@@SquidRider What are your new pure water and antifreeze ratios?
I was concerned about temps in my house falling below Zero and cracking tubes on a custom loop, but somebody told me some pc coolants have chemicals in them to avoid freezing.
casheesed just keep the PC on all the the time
Prich038 the few times I've come home to a freezing house is because the electricity went out.
UltimatePOPCORNS I have this one particular time in mind where my electricity was out almost the entire time I was at work. when I got home it was like -20 in my house. probably still going to do a loop, but just something that crossed my mind.
casheesed Maybe try a methanol water mix.
casheesed you should be more worried about the actual pipes in your house busting if you're letting it get that cold.
Linus fuck ed up the whole room watercooled project because he used anti freeze and tons of bacteria grew in the tubes and waterblock
Great video anyway
thats why you put a few drops of Iodine in your loop, kills bacteria
2:12 He gave a pretty interesting prediction but Jay did not believe him LOL
one of my favorite beverages being used as a liquid cooling, that pretty cool!
I like the idea of filling small "sample" tubes and capping them off for longevity testing.
Use Mountain Dew next!
I'm using antifreeze with water since 2005. My ddc pump works since 2008. It’s simply the best coolant, because it's prevent corrosion, lubricates pump and kill all micro organics in contour. Expensive coolants delaminates and they contains colored micro partitions, that kill your equipment.
I have had Antifreeze cooling my main rig's loop for about 6 years (Changed out every few years to rebuild the loop, etc.) I didn't really have any issues with hardware that I could tell. My Koolance 5.25" bay reservoir/pump from 2009 finally spider cracked from the fill port in 2017. Other than that, it worked about as well as I could've expected. I can get some pics/part numbers if it's interesting to anyone.
give your pc crushed up viagra pills, should give it a little boost without overheating it :)
LeonardoDeCaprisun *laughing and crying at the same time*
NICE
LeonardoDeCaprisun no. Put legs on the system to make it run faster
See a doctor if your overclock lasts 4 hours or more.
That's how you make your own rigid tubing
If performance increases persist for longer than 4 hours, call geeksquad?
I was thinking can you clamp your cpu to your water mains and heat your bath with it.
I have been using that exact Prestone coolant in my custom loop for 4 years now with no issues at all whatsoever. My system runs 24/7/365 and uses a generic SC600 pump. No issues with seals leaking. System has cheap Lowe's 3/8" vinyl tubing, plastic reservoir, copper block, aluminum radiator with copper tubes (coolant is not exposed to aluminum), and brass fittings. I am running a 50/50 mix of the green Prestone coolant and distilled to give me a ratio of 3:1 water to antifreeze. I think it's important to note that some PC coolants essentially use the same ethylene glycol and have the exact same sweet smell. The Thermaltake Bigwater 735 is one kit that comes to mind which used ethylene glycol in its coolant. In my video I had posted back in late 2018 about this topic, I advised to stay away from OAT and HOAT coolants such as Dexcool or Toyota coolant, and use the traditional green stuff such as this Prestone coolant. The previous coolant I had in the system was Primochill PC Ice and I had algae problems after 1 year of use. Needing to flush the system and put something else in, I happened to have some spare Prestone coolant in the shed, and this is how I ended up using it. The only concern I have is with the fact it's toxic to humans and animals and is a concern for homes with children and pets. Other than that, it should work as a low maintenance coolant which will provide years of problem free service from my experience. It may also be a good option for servicing prefilled AiO liquid cooling systems as these systems tend to mix copper and aluminum. In a way, I could say the Prestone stuff has extended pump life. The cheap $20 SC600 pump on my main system runs nice and quiet, and sounds even quieter with the Prestone stuff than it did with the Primochill PC Ice.
I'm pretty sure this was the first JTC video I ever wanted.
antifreeze for a cpu? lol
LN2+antifreeze=profit
+jort93z Not a bad idea
Lo Studios lol
Lo Studios Just dont use the Dexcool antifreeze, the Orange stuff for GM cars. That shit will eat copper up like a starving Ethiopian at a buffet bar. The Dexcool is formulated for GMs aluminum engine blocks and aluminum intakes and radiators.
you are also going to get crazy mold growth if you dont add an anti-fungal.
Look up the MSDS for both ethylene glycol used in antifreeze (car coolant) and propylene glycol non toix, used in some PC "enthusiast" liquid colling
Slot1Gamer isn't propylene glycol used for e-cigs?
SMOKE IT!
im a jayztwocents suscriber for years... and today i had that same thought, google it and whaduyou know, a jayztwo cents video as first result.
You'll never forget??? lol appreciate the content brother!
Try using mercury ri cool your PC next
I was thinking the same thing.
You are absolutely right, though elemental mercury isn't too bad compared to it's salts.
Gallium would work better i guess?
PRO-digi it wouldl solidify after you shut the computer off and clog the tubing. Not only that, but if any gets on the Aluminium parts, it will make the metal brittle.
the little bambi pumps we use for computer cooling are not made to handle materials as incredibly dense as Mercury.
Wasted so much of that Prestone, I was going to drink that. Thanks alot!! :)
I can post you some slazenger aftershave if that'll make up for it? 57% ABV
I like your attitude. Keeping it real!
Nice tec video and always some thing interesting
I really appreciate
Dump that PC inside a fish tank filled with mineral oil and you'll have way better cooling! (add a nice big tower dissipator to the CPU though, like a megahalems)
You would still have to circulate the mineral oil thru a radiator or some other type of heat exchanger because with time, the oil will reach an equilibrium with component temps.
xmanrigger yeah you con drop a big aluminium plate with fins comected to the oil and it will irradiate the heat
It would have to be outside of the tank for it to be effective. Otherwise the heat it is dissipating will go directly back to the mineral oil, essentially doing nothing.
xmanrigger Duh... of course!
something like the Calyos system
nope ... just keeps it clean
"My tube is flopping around, here."
"Alright, we're pretty much empty."
My old retail water cooling system (before AIOs) came with basically a type of antifreeze
I now use Glysantin G48 with water many years in my watercooling. It just adds a slight green tint and works perfect. No coloured soft tubes or clogged up filter anymore. I used anti corrosion and different colors before but in the long run they all tended to lose some colour and instead left colour in my tubes.
It's still "water" cooling... just uneccessary to use antifreeze, unless you were to use a chiller to drop the temp below 0C
Exactly! and that's exactly what I'm doing. I'll be switching to SMIRNOFF soon though.
It is not "unnecessary", you are just staring the word antifreeze without thinking or not understanding what the liquids are actually made from. Usually the premium coolants are propylene glycol based, with some other additives. You know what else is propylene glycol based? Some car antifreezes, usually the red ones, with some other additives that may or may not be beneficial for PC water cooling. Difference is that car antifreeze is cheaper and stronger concentration, which makes it even more cheaper because you can dilute it with distilled water. Here Jay used a 50-50 premix which is still too strong. Diluted to a 25-75 mix is good enough for both the anticorrosive and biocidal properties of antifreeze.
Lol would have loved to see how long it would take for it to melt
Ran 70/30 mix for years, never had issues with anything. Ran DangerDen radiator, pump, acrylic top copper CPU and GPU blocks, 3/4 tubing all from them. They've been gone for years now, still have the setup and works fine.
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Super cool video Jay, Thanks😊
Whats up Jay. Will you be upgrading to Gtx 1080ti's for Skunkworks in the near future?
That would be a downgrade. He has 2 Titan XP's.
R00kie Oh snap, Didn't know. Welp, Guess we'll have to wait until the 11 series releases.
Unless for some strange reason nVidia decides to make the 1080Ti better optimized for gaming.
he's already got 2 Titan XPs.
TotallyNotASeaOtter *downgrade
Okay my best original idea here, (link up with Cody from CodysLab and try to cool a Pc with Liquid Mercury.) i think it could be interesting. but also really dangerous. good for a million plus views,
damn ye! mercury for liquid cooler! great idea.
JD Cunningham . Mercury is extremely dangerous. If your loop leaks, it's not just your CPU that's gonna do the dieing...
Florin Pandele please just take a look at cody's lab channel! mercury is only dangerous if inhaled, you can even eat it and you wont die.
Mercury is not that dangerous, (the only big issue is that it evaporates into the air and then u end up breathing it.)
Hmm another major issue I could see with mercury is that while it may be a liquid it's still a metal and electrically conductive, it's probably got a pretty good chance of shorting something out. Also while metals have good thermal conductivity their specific heat capacity is usually very low (They are good at passively moving heat but storing any amount of it so you can actively transport it around they suck at). Take for example some more common liquid coolants water = 4.18 J/g/K, ammonia = 4.74 J/g/K (usually only used when needing to radiate the heat to a very cold environment space for example), mineral oils are around 1.67 J/g/K, even gasses are better nitrogen = 1.04 J/g/K, earth air = ~1.00 J/g/K. On the other hand mercury = 0.14 J/g/K, copper = 0.38 J/g/K this just isn't a role metals are strong at though Aluminium is fairly close to the gasses at 0.90 J/g/K.
Of course the thermal conductivity of the mercury would partially offset the low specific heat capacity but still as we know passive cooling doesn't really work as well as actively pumping heat by a long shot you would probably have to pump several times the mass of mercury to match the effectiveness of air cooling and of course expend several times the amount of energy for the pumping too. The reason why liquid cooling is so effective a relatively small mass of circulating liquid coolant can carry a relatively large amount of heat it would actually be more power efficient too but that only applies if you use a passive radiator to cool the fluid if you want a small radiator like is usually the case with a PC cooler generally you end up actively air cooling the radiator to minimise the needed surface area which nullifies said benefit.
You should do another video on this about how long you have ran it in your system and a teardown of the waterblocks
I know these videos are flustrating Jay, but your efforts are appreciated. A friend asked me this very question recently and I just did not know the answer, so I defaulted to "ask the internet." I believe he was more interested in the florescent look of the fluid rather than the performance, which can be difficult to get just right. A lot of the available fluids are not translucent and when diluted they just don't look the same. As time passes more options will be available.
To the other end of the extreme, I don't know why anyone in a cold climate environment would liquid cool their PC, when open-air would get the job done without risking damage to their unit. When aesthetics supersede function then the owner/builder of the PC is doing it wrong.
I know I am late to the game but I looked into this before using antifreeze at a 15%-20% mix. The coolant sold by the companies is propylene glycol, antifreeze is ethylene glycol. Both are glycol based and are diluted with distilled water. I have been running antifreeze with petg tubing for over a year now and I have had zero issues. There are also glycol based plastics in some cars cooling systems, my jeep cherokee had plastic hose fittings on the radiator, was also never as issue. The main difference between propylene and ethylene is one is more toxic than the other because ethylene is more chemical based. Shall I drain my loop and show I have no issues using antifreeze? It's used because I cannot go to the store and buy coolant for a pc and I'm forced to buy from third party sellers who sell the stuff at $100 a for 1000ml. Sorry but where you said "you will have a chemical reaction using glycol based coolants with glycol based plastics", it is wrong because you are using glycol based coolant when you buy it ekwb, corsair, thermaltake, mayhems, alphacool, etc.
"$16 is overpriced for this video"
Bro you got 1.5mil views AND monetized
For sure he knew that 5 years ago...
@@Sadurrick yeah definently
Like the desks. Where did you buy them?
I think for cooling you are looking for absorption values and specific heat capacity. Some average as the higher of those two values, but water has a good value of both, hard to beat.
specific heat of water is 1.0 from what I remember, and also from what I remember that is relatively pretty high, given constant atmospheric pressure throughout any comparison. I'm thinking his original fluid and the antifreeze probably shared roughly the same specific heat, which is the reason the two trials were similar, and if one were to use a safe, alternative tubing system, then they'd be fine. In order to see if it would cool better, a system that allowed for more heat diffusion would be the test to perform, like a system with more coolant volume, and /or more of an exposed surface area to room temperature. lol I just wrote a book oh well cheers anyway.
Mercury would probably make a good coolant, would be nice if you tried that :)
Cool your pc with windshield washer fluid?
Dude! The Dirt Fish shirt caught my eye. Have you been out to their school? I would love to go.
in the end of 1990´s, early 2000´s we used Glysantin G48 ( I bet the presto stuff is the same) in a mix of 1/10 to maximal 1/20 with PVC (Vinyl) soft tubes without any problems. Still now many water cooling veterans use it w/o any problems for years.
I ran my loops with 10% antifreeze/ 90% water for the past 10 years no problem. Temps were good and the only downside was the reaction with soft tubing would cause it to cloud after a couple of months. I'd typically run 3-4 years between changing tubing & coolant. Don't see what the fuss is about, I've moved to EK-CryoFuel Clear now just to maintain clear tubing.
how man years on the clear coolant? also there are different car coolants, like G05 or the VW pink/red stuff. some different PH balances and lubricant and what not.
"my tube is flopping around"
like the music the dark ambient music when you poured in the anti freeze lol
There was no chemical reaction. You saw just the difference in density between the remaining water and the coolant. The thing is ethylene glycol has a lower heat capacity than water. Btw. the coolant said 50/50 which means it's already diluted with 50% water. The reason to put ethylene glycol in the coolant: thats the anti-freeze part :) . Depending on the specc of the coolant and for which engine (cast iron or aluminium-alloys) it should be used the additives (eg. corrosion inhibitors) it is possibile that it doesn't play well whith the metals used in the cooler etc. ethylene glycol and some inhibitors have an effect on plastics. The can harden or in case of seals they soften and bloat.