Zog: King of the Bloodfeud
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- Be you a Hatfield, a Black Donnelly, Alexander Hamilton or Zog, vendettas are an unfortunately common part of human existence. And while as an individual, our needs for vengeance are personal and deep, they're often at odds with society. Justice is not a universal concept.
Blood feuds end in blood. It's right there in the name.
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Pecu - That's often not what people mean when they say that state supplied vengeance is continuing the cycle... punishment doesn't solve the problem that created the initial victim, it only offers victims a semblance of closure by saying "when this happens to you, the perpetrator will be punished", and for many people, this is enough... after all, we're not meant to want to be cruel to each other, if we see something bad happening to someone, we're meant to feel bad and want it to stop, but for many of us, broken in one way or another, there is this magic D word that lets you take a short holiday from this... you get to not feel empathy, but to enjoy seeing something bad happen to someone, and because of the holiday, not have to wonder if it makes you a bad person... you have a permission slip to enjoy seeing something bad happen to someone, because they "deserve" it. And so, many people are content with the fact that crime happens and people get hurt, as long as somebody gets punished for it who we think "deserves" it, because then we get to be okay with bad things happening. Of course, once a crime has happened and somebody has been hurt, state intervention is necessary, otherwise people take vengeance into their own hands... no one is saying that having a tough childhood should be used as an "excuse" to be allowed to pass on that injury to others, but for many of us, the "when this happens to you" is the problem we want to change... the choice isn't "crime and punishment" or "crime and no punishment", we want something that's better than both of those... so, instead of spending all our efforts on punishment, we need to invest efforts in understanding what leads people to commit the crimes, work out if there are interventions that mean we won't have as many crimes needing punishment in our future. We need to understand people who "have no respect for society" to see exactly what our society hasn't done to earn that respect from those people. We need to get over seeing the results of social failings as "bad people" who "deserve" what they get retroactively... by not failing those people in the first place, the choice between "vengeance or suck it up" never has to be made... and we can start basic, by feeding the hungry, we protect those who the hungry would eventually turn on to steal from... by protecting those vulnerable to violence, we protect those who would be hurt when those vulnerable people form defensive gangs, selling heroine to other vulnerable people so they can buy the guns they need to defend themselves. This is the point, that the only real way to end the cycles of violence is to find more ways of stopping the cycles starting in the first place... and that means not being okay with seeing bad things happen, even when they are happening to bad people, but recognise that we need to work out how to reach people who will turn bad if nobody reaches them. Yes, people who "deserve" it can still be punished, but punishing people isn't an unsolved problem that needs our attention, we know how to do it... but making fewer people who will deserve it? That's where we need more attention, try more things, learn what works and what doesn't work, and not give up when we fail and just go back to being content with getting to punish people... it's complicated, but balance is found in the middle, with weights on both sides, not all piled up at one extreme or the other. Hope this made sense.
This story reminds me of Behind The Sun, a movie that takes an Albanian blood feud story and transplants it to Brazil.
The title sounds like a DnD campaign.
"the castle of Zog, king of the bloodfued."
I wish DnD makes this an expansion pack where you could play as Zog
+Rodrigo Duterte Your name makes this statement even funnier.
Thanks for the idea.
Evan's passion for storytelling, and the behaviours of people would make him an incredible GM.
Wasn't there something similar already out but in a never ending cycle called Curse of Strahd?
Zog reportedly smoked over 200 cigarettes a day, just another Zog fun fact.
SM(Z)OG
@@asj3419 zmog
Smog
Fog
Clog
Do I kneel before Zog?
King Zog had an estate he never moved into on Long Island, New York. It's a nature preserve now! They say he bought it with a bucket of diamonds and rubys.
I would like to know more about this
There's like nothing left of it at this point besides the steps in front and some pillars. It's pretty neat but it would be cooler if it looked anything like it used to
Oh, okay. And from whom did he buy it?
@@tp6335 I'm not entirely sure, I never looked too into the history of it. I've been there a few times, I live on Long Island. I'm sure if you just Google "king zog Long island" you'll find some stuff haha
Thanks
On a suddenly icy road in 1999, the driver of a white Ford Explorer SUV -- believing advertised hype about the impervious qualities of SUVs -- lost control of his vehicle, slid sideways across Route 135 a half mile from the starting line of the Boston Marathon, and crashed into our daughter. Speaking later with well-intentioned lawyers who asked me if I wanted justice -- Yes, I answered. I wanted Ford Motor company to raise my daughter from the dead, because only that would genuinely balance the equation.
Such a miracle being utterly impossible, I decided that justice (or vengeance) was of no value to anyone if took the form of ruining someone else's life to balance what could not be balanced. And so, I spoke with the driver -- a bright kid with bright future -- a kid who had believed the hype -- a kid who had a terrible accident as a result of it. And instead of facing a ruinous lawsuit cutting short his hopes and dreams, I told him to take a stuffed animal from my daughter's bedroom, a token to help him remember what he had done, what he had taken from us -- and with that in mind, I told him to make up the difference by working to make the world a better place.
Wow, Ken. That's intense, powerful, and incredibly poignant. I'm both sorry, and grateful, for your story.
Well, what you described was an accident. Blood feud is intentional.
And there are rules to blood feud.
Perhaps if accidents were more clearly recognized for what they are, some feuds might be avoided.
You are an amazing person- the world needs more like you. Your daughter must have been very proud to have a dad like you.
Rare Earth is quality content..this is the sort of content that should be supported. It's entertainment and education rolled into one.
If you wanna be philosophical, just watch rare earth videos. Thanks for the hard work man. You're doing an awesome job.
Oh man, that makes me REALLY want to see a collaboration between this channel and PhilosophyTube.
Another brilliant video I'm Sicilian , there are still blood feuds/ Vendetta's in my family to this day. A bunch of blood spilled for no reason in my opinion. It's definitely true though, you live by the sword you will most definitely die by the sword.
Rule 1: Don't fuck with sicillians.
Rule 2: refer to rule 1
@@phoenixjones7191 yasss
Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!
And here I thought you were a Spaniard, Borgia.
@@crunchychips8123 not my real name LOL
Damn Albania looks really beautiful, I think I might give it a chance and visit it someday!
went to albania this summer and i can fully recommend it. the history is very interesting and diverse and the countryside is very beautiful. you have a lot auf stunning beaches and breathtaking mountains and valleys. it is also very cheap and easy to travel. the people are also very friendly and welcoming to tourists and guests.
Hardy Ernesti thank you guys 😊
Zog in Albanian means bird
Or vagina in some cases
@@meshari-sx7gg my man it does not mean vagina jesus christ
His long last name was Zogolli
@@meshari-sx7gg Sometimes we say chick meaning girl
Your mention of the death penalty got me to recognize something that nobody has been able to connect. Every once in a while, a news story arises that reports a crime is so heinous and perpetrator so obvious that you'll start to see people say "I'm against the death penalty, but this makes me question that stance". That's the element of our collective personal justice. A phenomenon that nobody has quite been able to articulate until now.
I dunno about heinous. As far as I'm concerned, there is no sense in death as a penalty or deterrent. I might be okay with someone who can not in any way be rehabilitated being euthanized, but I certainly don't trust anyone with the authority to make that call. I think I'll take occasionally telling myself "well, this one might as well die" and never seeing it happen over the chance of seeing it happen even once and forever questioning if I was mistaken.
The death penalty is purely and merely a blood sacrifice to our fear and anger. It solves nothing, deters nothing.
Some offenders are utterly intractable, this is a separate issue. We need to remove them because they are forever a threat, but we need to remain ethically and morally superior to those we punish because if we aren't then we are just the strong disposing of the weak.
This is very hard to explain to fearful, angry people.
"How are we "morally superior" if we protect, say a lawfully condemned killer from justice?" - this sentences equates violent vengeance with justice, a grievous error.
A man kills another in an angry argument, that's different from a man waiting, armed to kill someone he argued with yesterday. The difference is malice aforethought. Both are killings, the intent is important to the just. Merely destroying the man you're 'pretty sure' committed a crime makes you just like him, superior only in power.
"And in what way are murderers weak?" - once a murder has offended the whole of society turns against them. Once apprehended, charged, tried, convicted and sentenced they are at the mercy of power. Thinking a bureacratic state is different from a network of tribal snipers is also an error. Most murderers don't set a low value on life, most of them are full of regret for their crimes. Decades of criminology and statistics back this up. That and the realisation that a group of armed men transporting a prisoner to a place to be destroyed is just a murder too, is why only 53 places still execute criminals.
@Bigfoot "You can talk about statistics and sociology all you want, but I have known personally several people who have murdered another person or attempted murder and not one of them was remorseful."
This right here is why we have statistics and sociology, because 300 people will have 300 different sets of anecdotal evidence. Your experience is useful for you to navigate your life with, but when making broad policy that affects millions of lives we need those stats.
@Bigfoot Yeah interpretation of statistics can be skewed to make a point if you have an agenda. Even by organizations. Judges and parole boards, however, have authority behind them and responsibility before them. Lots of people have been around criminals their whole life, that doesn't qualify them to make decisions. The remorseless killer is a bogeyman used in TV shows, they exist but they are much rarer than the idiot who killed someone, usually in his own socio-economic caste, over either money, status or a woman.
TV shows people dramas every day about strangers attacking people, when the fact is we hurt people close to us much more often, friends, family, neighbors and co-workers. It's the criminolological statistics that prove that TV is garbage and fantasy.
Zog had quite the throwing arm, he could toss a scepter several city blocks away.
That show was such a disappointment that I'm upset I got this reference.
@@BlindCap wait what?
I want a progressive death metal band to write an hour long song about Zog The King of the Bloodfeud complete with audio insertions of his speeches
Its going to be a 4 hour epoes with orchestrated interludes and rhapsody style songs thrown inbetween to really confuse every listener
Nice video man. These Blood feuds derive from a set of laws created by a catholic Albanian prince called Leke Dukagjini in the 14-15th Centuries. This was because at the time after death of Skanderbeg most of Albania fell into the hands of the Turks except in the mountainous North, which the Turks could not really assert their authority or laws in. So the "Kanun of Leke Dukagjini" acted as a kind of substitute and symbol of defiance I guess, becoming the law in many parts of Northern Albania (which is were Zog is from).
@@TheClamy8911 those laws weren’t established by Leke Dukagjini.
Those where already tribe laws.
Northern Albanians tribes and Montenegrin and Serbian tribes were similar or in my opinion the same.
So its normal that we have these honor codes.
Its used to say that these laws even dates from very ancient times.
Hey! Just wanted to say Albania became independent not after World War I (or during it) but after the Balkan wars of 1912-1913.
Before the ww1 it was militarily governed by serbia and only central or northern(not sure whitch one) albania was truly independant
Oh yeah, blood vengeance was a big thing over here in Montenero too roughly before the 19th century and the rise of the new state (weather the Ottomans considered it as such or not). There was even a saying which translates into "he who doesn't revenge himself does not sanctify himself" meaning NOT taking revenge is WRONG. And it would just start a cycle of revenge and counter revenge that would only end in destruction of one family. Fortunately there were SOME ways to end it but they were kinda extreme. Things like one side taking taking the last newborn to the other side and telling them that if they wish to continue the cycle they should kill the kid right then and there. If they didn't the families would seek to marry into each other and once they did so they would essentially become one family, a bond stronger than blood. But those were exceptions, things that happened when one side faced extinction.
In the end it took a local leader who many considered a living saint even during his life, begging and pleading some of the longest running blood feuds to stop, and if they didn't threatening curses (and his curses had a way of coming to be, one way or another). Later once the leaders switched from being religious leaders to secular ones (mid 19th century) it took a LOT of time to drill into the people that any disagreements between people should be taken to the big boss.
But on the upshot, the practice was kinda mostly abolished by the turn of the century.
And all this BASICALLY started because there was no effective rule of law in the mountains of the Balkans. Ottomans didn't care much about what happened in these poor and inhospitable places, and the local Christian people certainly didn't trust their courts (as the saying goes "Qadi would sue you and Quadi would judge you") so they had to turn to local solutions. And they cared even less about justice once Montenegrins started murdering any Ottoman official who came to them demanding anything. One of which of course is the oldest way of "justice", an EYE for an EYE. Trouble with that is once that second eye was taken out, the familly of the original perpetrator wouldn't care about what he did but what was done to him.
Basically, even though this goes against our innate sense of "justice", the courts, impartial third party, are the only way to solve the problem of justice. And even though there is something in us allways demanding BLOOD for wrongs, we REALLY need to stomp on that animal instinct for "justice" in us. In the end, NO punishment will ever turn back the clock and undo what was done.
What tribe are you from?
Kuci or Piperi?
Well there are more tribes than that over here :D Mine were from the Old Montenegro, but we fled sometimes early 19th century (I think) (from some kind of vendeta shenanigans) to Grbalj on the coast. So we identify more with that place. That's our tribe now.
That might have been the case in ordered parts of the Empire. This in turn was a proverb from those days. Even if all Qadi were righteous and corect, it does show that the local Christians didn't really trust any kind of such justice.
Also to be fair, in the centuries in question, these western Balkan parts often ended up being ruled more by the local warlords than by Constantinople. Against of which the central government waged several wars. For example the first Serb Rebellion/Uprising, for most part had official approval from Porta because they were fighting the local warlords. And the rebellion was quashed once our rebels refused to acknowledge the Ottoman sovrenity and Ottoman army proper became involved.
What I'm saying is that the state of things on the ground was quite different from what it should have been. Not to mention that even the priests wouldn't really be capable of making such decisions given that a lot of them had no schooling for the job, apart from knowing from memory the sermons and like. A lot of them would basically inherit the job. And Montenegro was in basically de facto state of rebellion for quite some time not caring what the Constantinople said. On the other hand it wasn't really a state, so apart from periodic attempts by local powers to subdue them nobody cared about that.
@@Blazo_Djurovic The reason i asked is because Montenegrin tribes near Albania tend to have the same culture as Albanian tribe
the reason i suggested Kuci or peperi was because those tribes split between Albanian and Montenegrin/Serbian
Eh. It's not really a specific culture. It's practically the culture of all mountain people. Independent, poor so the only way to stand out is family honor/name etc.
Naming your kid Zog is just bad parenting. He basically has to become King of the Bloodfeud now. What other choice does he have? "Hi. I'm Zog from accounting. This is my wife Ultrogoth and our two children. Grishnàkh is going on 13 now. Gee whiz time flies doesn't it? And this is Bob, Witch-king of Angmar. He's almost 6." Seriously... Of course, he wouldn't even make it that far in life: how would he pay for accountant school? "Welcome to Burger King. My name is Zog. Can I have your order?"
Poor Zog never had a chance.
@@produksioniBENI Cool. Thanks mate.
@Joey Gegaj Yes Joey, I'm mentally insane and I also don't know there are other languages in the world.
J because jokes don’t exist
eye for an eye is not blood feud. the talion system is more sophisticated than it sounds: if you take someone's eye, then under the talion you are given the legal right to his eye. you can take it, as you're legally entitled to, but almost always you 'sell' the rights back to him for blood money. this leaves you in a very strong bargaining position: the price you can demand is not what his eye is worth to you, but what his eye is worth *to him*. most likely it will end up a huge sum that his clan will have to step up to pay, say 50 cattle. this leaves you with one less eye and fifty more cattle, and him with a deep debt to his family, so in practice clans keep their own members in check. it's a justice system for stateless societies. blood feuds on the other hand are the result of insults to honor and retaliation spiraling out of control , which is exactly what the talion was meant to correct for.
they're both pre-christian/islamic, they stem from honor culture
If I remember correctly the fully developed version of retributive justice (of which Talion law is an early version) holds that the criminal owes a debt to the victim of the crime (or the victim's heirs) in proportion to the crime done, the heirs or relations of the criminal are not involved unless they are in current possession of provably stolen property which should be restored to the victim without compensation. (the loss of property is a direct result of the criminal's action in transferring an illegitimate title to the other person).
Fundamentally though the point is that the criminals rights are to be violated to the extent that the rights of the victim were violated and no further.
If A steals $500 from B then A must return that $500 (restoration) and pay a further $500 (retribution) to the victim.
It must be remembered however that there is no injustice done should the victim forgive some or all of the debt owed by the criminal.
The sad fact of the matter is that justice systems that promote the "good of society" have a large downside in that they often harm the victim even more, after all B has lost $500 to A, he now has the dubious honor of having to pay to catch convict and then support the man who victimized him as long as A remains in jail.
Well by definition the Talion law is not a justice system because it is fundamentally unjust and unfair. Letting the victim decide the punishment (even when restricting it to a maximum) is terrible idea that should never be implemented.
" This is the logic of lex talionis. This is why "an eye for an eye" did not in fact make the whole world go blind. The principle of an eye for an eye, as Miller sees it, is "the more ancient and deeper notion that justice is a matter of restoring balance, achieving equity, determining equivalence, making reparations... getting back to zero, to even." [3] Trading eyes for eyes is not so much about indiscriminate, unthinking violence as it is carefully calculated attempts to match punishment to crime. Talionic justice is a system built on deterrence--not only deterring criminals from committing crimes, but deterring vengeance seekers from exacting too heavy a price in retaliation for crimes committed against them. This is empathy enforced by blood. You think carefully about the pain you inflict on others knowing, that measure for measure, the pain you give others will be given back to you."
i'm not so sure it's much worse than locking people in cages with psychopaths or letting a judge decide how much your eye is worth
"[insert idealized academic discussion of Lex Talionis here]...which is exactly what the talion was meant to correct for." And which it obviously *fails* to correct for, which is why it either evolves into a more sophisticated legal system, or (more frequently) devolves back into lynch-mobs. On the one hand, you've already conceded that penalties should be determined by some drawn-out process which you won't have complete control over. In that case, why not just entrust the whole thing to some qualified third party who can...I dunno, let's say "judge" the dispute? I don't know what you'd call that person, but we can figure it out as we go along. :) On the other hand, suppose you can't convince his clan to give up 50 cattle, or even one -- maybe you're bad at negotiating, maybe they just hate your guts because you worship the wrong tree. What then? Well, you TAKE those 50 cattle you're entitled to, inevitably with the help of your own clan, and maybe somebody gets killed in the scuffle, and now they're accusing you all of stealing and/or murder, so now it's war, FANTASTIC.
At least he has one of the best names people have ever been named.
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Kneel before Zog!
I was gonna do it if nobody else did.
Zionist
@@-ahvilable-6654 wut?
oy vey
Fiiinally i was scrolling through tons of comments looking for this hahaha!
The Balkans weren't free because of the first World War, but because of the first Balkan war (1912). The Ottomans lost all territory in southern Serbia, southern Bulgaria, and northern Greece. The nations were, however, free before that (due to the congress of Berlin). Albania declared independence after the Albanian revolt in 1912.
Great video, though. Very interesting!
Actually,we Albanians started to declare indipendence in 1878 with the League of Prizren but we were recognized in 1913
Every video you upload is rejuvenating! I always reevaluate my perception of the world thanks to the stories you share. Thank you.
I first noticed Albania as a kid, because its flag is cool. I want to visit, thanks to this channel
My great grandfather was in a blood feud, thank god it was resolved because it would of continued till this day.
You guys create what I think are by far the best untold history and social studies videos I have ever seen.
I have been to some of S.E. Asia over the last 4 years, but that is the extent of my travels so far. your videos have opened my eyes to new things about each culture I have come across at this time. Also, I think that this is what should be taught is school now, our education system needs an update.
keep up the amazing work, can't wait for the next vid.
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Zog really is an irresistible name. Glad a friend sent me to the channel. Been worth the binge-watch while in bed recovering from a bad flare of my autoimmune condition.
Thank you for another great video. I have lived through that as have many people and I love they way you show it to people.
Second most important Rare Earth video. Just no words.
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The most profound and deepest episode yet. Well done Evan.
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One of my favourite parts of this series is the little clips at the end of what goes on. Really subtle, but enlightening
I had no idea that King Zog from Disenchantment was named after a real world leader.
me too
Good way to start the weekend. Thanks Evan
Starting to really get into y'all's videos, Keep up the great work Rare Earth!
Z O G
Shut it down
*Z O C C*
zog in albanian means bird
Skill with which you justified your previous story in this video is beyond my comprehension. Brilliant. I didn't much disagree with you on that story but read many comments in that didn't really get it . To them the scale of destruction seemed of no value . This video show puts that in perspective as well. Well done.
insert "submit to zog" memes here
*SUBMIT TO ZOGG*
*OUR ONLY ZOT*
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Its good to know people the world over are basically all the same.
One of your best videos. More video structure like this plz.
I haven't commented on a video before. Probably won't for just as long as I've visited TH-cam. But I love you Evan. You have given more insight into culture than I could have gotten through school and half of Netflix. And I'd die happy just seeing you reply with an "ok". Thanks for the knowledge and entertainment.
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Are you planning on doing a video about religion in Albania?
The religion in Albania has a really unique history.
Yeah
Awesome work. Like a traveling cooking show that feeds the mind.
Great video! Zog sounds wild
Damn... Albania is awesome
Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu Zogu..
Truly inspiring ʕ•ᴥ• ʔ
*Wait.* So there were people whose reaction to the Collileufu incident was "this scared to death tribe chopped up a little boy because of fear and superstition, so they ALL deserve to DIE, because we are offended by it." Seriously?
...wow. Talk about missing the point, overreacting and a completely crooked sense of justice. This made me pretty sad.
They were an isolated and uneducated tribe that were only told that human sacrifice is wrong by law, ie if you kill sacrifice someone you're going to jail. Why do you think we have juvenile prisons? Because usually when they commit a crime they don't know any better. The goal should be to educate and to instill the moral values of the society on those that are missing out.
I remember this one video where a person pretended to be dying on the streets while dressed up as a homeless man. Many people did not bother to help him. Should all those people who did not bother to help him die?
Raitis THANK YOU. Exactly my point.
How do you know the homeless man isn't dying? All I'm saying is the world isn't as black and white, and trying to put yourself in the shoes of someone who doesn't have the education/intellect that you have is a good thought experiment.
You're oversimplifying this so much. With the nazi's there's a whole can of worms of what do you prioritize, the safety of your family or the morally right thing to do, plus many other factors one including obviously there being very evil people in their ranks. But I'm not gonna go in to that as there's so many different factors in there.
Where as in this case, yes, they literally did not know any better. If we could see into other peoples hearts and tell that other person isn't lying when they say "I didn't know any better" then in my opinion they should be allowed to learn be taught to know better, but since we can't discern the lies from the truth, "I didn't know any better" isn't a valid argument.
HOWEVER, in this case we're looking at history with historical facts, where the tribe had a history of human sacrifice in their tradition. Eventually that tradition was suppressed by the more advanced parts of the region, but they never lost it. Another fact is that they were very ill adjusted to the modern life and it's values. You can see differences in values anywhere in the world, go to Japan, America, Middle east and Africa, you will see values completely different from each other like day and night.
Thus when struck with crisis they did the only thing they thought would save them. Not out of the evil in their hearts, but for self preservation. Sacrifice one to save many, the trolley problem. And in this case there's nothing to be gained or lost when claiming "they didn't know any better". It's just a fact. So if they could be stopped, obviously I'd stop them. If I could educate them on why human sacrifice doesn't work, I'd educate them. But I'd never judge them for doing the only thing they thought would save themselves.
+brad taasevigen
I guess you don't get the meaning or the twisted logic behind a sacrifice. It's exactly because it is wrong, hurts and people know it that the sacrifice has meaning in their minds.
It's like the trolley problem in real life, they choose to kill one to save many, the bombs in hiroshima and nagasaki were dropped for the same reason, the only diference in the tsunami case is that they didn't know that the method would not work.
My grandfather was moderator for blood feuds and all kinds of disputes, crazy shit
Albania is gorgeous... and you have showed it off with style and depth. Thanks!
Another great story. Thanks from Orlando.
I learned from both the past (Winter War among others) and my late grandfather that when forced to use violence, slaughter the attacker in a manner so horrifying and gruesome that any other whom sees the result will reconsider following in their footsteps.
The key we were taught is you don't start a fight, you end it.
3:30 he wanted to act cool by touching the bollard but almost fell lmao
Great video!
"Though justice be thy plea, consider this: that in the course of justice none of us should see salvation."
I love your channel and your videos. I was born in Italy but my parents were born in southern Albania, it will be great if I meet you there one day. I could show you Vranisht, the village of my mother, and the incredible valley where it is.
Man... Albania seems to be your longest series thus far. I am not sure if I'm supposed to feel bad at my anger towards the child sacrifice in Chile. I was one of those people who called for more bloodshed... I want to say I'm above the need for vengeance, yet sociopathy, the ability to willingly turn off your conscience at will, runs in my family. My family on my dad's side goes back to Scotland. One part in the Wallace clan, the other a cannibal clan (by the way another destination for you to explore). Maybe I'm just a victim of my humanity.
Awesome episode retaliatory nature is one of our biggest downfall as humans
Awesome educational video.
Why is it that every one of your histories seem to have application in the here and now? The old saw that those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it is considered to be so clichéd , but no one seems to realize that this is precisely what is happening right now in 2018. Look around and you can find many Zogs and Rustemis, each one absolutely convinced that the only way forward is to eliminate any opposition, each one convinced that they are right and theirs is the only true path. Honestly, I keep wondering when we humans are going to start using our much-vaunted "superior intellect" to solve problems as opposed to exacerbating them. Good on you for keeping this in the forefront.
Michael Cherry the thing is though that humans at there core are the same it doesn’t matter how many dictators rise and fall how many wars are for nothing we’ll carry on and repeat our mistakes till we go extinct.
Unstable Quasar:
And yet I personally know many people to whom the kind of behavior that results in blood feuds would be unthinkable. Humans may be the same at their core, but the thing that separates a dictator like Zog from people who spend their lives trying to help one another is a conscious decision. That's where the "superior intellect" is supposed to come in. At our core, we have the potential to be a Zog or a Ghandi. It is a choice, even (and especially) when circumstances seem to swing the balance in favor of the destructive choice. To be able to resist the pull of destruction, even in horrific circumstances, is the ultimate goal. Once we have enough people that will make that hard choice, the blood feuds and wars will diminish. They won't disappear completely, because there will still be people choosing destruction, but the hope is that these will be a small, stubborn minority of the population. We live in hope, even though it often looks like despair.
Michael Cherry the problem with that argument is that we already do live in hope we live in some of the most peaceful and best times in human history sure there’s problems but those problems become smaller each year.
@@michaelcherry8952 blood feuds are necessary because there is no justice system in albania.
@@za4763 I'm afraid I disagree. I would argue that what is necessary in Albania is a working justice system. The lack of a justice system may result in blood feuds, but it does not make them necessary.
You guys are one o the few people I know that travel with a purpose
your videos are so interesting and make me want to learn and travel the world
Very very important message thank you
I always think back to the grangerfords and the shepherdsons when I think about blood feuds. No one remembered how it began but that didn’t stop them from dying for it
One of your better videos!
Interesting how this show started out as a history documentary and has lately been strongly shifting the balance towards challenging the audience philosophically through examples in history. A lot heavier to watch but I wouldn't change it for the world!
😎 Cool work bro
Bloody. Brilliant.
Your vids are awsome😀! Greetings from Albania👐🇦🇱
Kneel before Zog!
Wait, wrong medium.
"There never was such a thing as absolute justice, but only agreements made in mutual dealings among men in whatever places at various times providing against the infliction or suffering of harm."- Epicurus
The Albanian practice of the bloodfeud was depicted in the novel Broken April by Ismail Kadare. The story was transplanted to the Northeast of Brazil in the movie Behind The Sun.
So what is your take on wereguild (man price, blood money)? It was (a) way for society to end blood feud. It seems that if it were to be used, the wealth (or income) of perpetrator would also have to be taken into account. Otherwise, it'd just be a way for the rich to avoid any hurt. IDK how effective it was, I have no idea what historical studies there might be on it.
Also, is some form of restorative justice (whereby restitution is paid to the victim or their heir) a modern form of wereguild?
2:40
I'm fairly certain that from that single line about the hadfields and McCoys I imagined for these past couple of years that you had an episode where you visited that place.
PS that would be dope.
I think I heard zog name in first Power ranger series....
Nice footage, interesting story, thanks for that! I enjoy going through your clips!
But in this one the sound is screwed up - there is a constant annoying humming-sound in the background
i love that you are getting lighter in tone.
Amazing response to the comments on the video about human sacrifice
thanks!
Not early - just lucky
(also, this is probably your best title yet)
You are genius!
Goddamnit Evan why do you keep hitting me with well researched facts and history. Now I have to change my opinion again
HOW DO THESE VIDEOS KEEP BETTING BETTER
The last sentence has gave the true meaning of what the world is now
You can pontificate at me all you want, but if somebody hurts my family...they better hope the law gets to them first.
That's the thing about the choice between peace and revenge... you can only choose peace when it's your turn to choose, you can't choose "revenge and then peace" because after you've moved to revenge, it's not your turn to choose anymore... the choice of peace or revenge goes to your adversary, it's their turn to choose... if they choose peace, you can get peace, but if they choose revenge, only then does it come back to you... how do you respond to their revenge? Do you choose peace, or revenge?
Hope you making your way to Kosovo after your trip in Albania, I have a few stories and places I can suggest.
Since I started to watch your videos, I just waited for you to mention Serbia.
Finally! :)
Aleksandar Ercegovcevic lmao and it was on a vid about an Albanian king
Kosovo is
*ALBANIA*
Beeeaaaan!!
My Great grandfather fought against Zog troops in the castle of Lezhë in northern Albania. I remember him saying his soldiers spoke Serbian and he always used that to justify fighting against him. Later I read that they were actually White Russians hired by ZOG. Also fun story my great grand father was sentenced to death right after Zog came to power. He was set free when faschist Italy invaded and than the Italians sentenced him to death for killing someone. He survived again when Italy capitulated and the prisons were opened. He ran off and joined hoxha communists who dropped the murder charges after the war. He died in 1992 I think he was 98 years old.
The biblical "eye for an eye" is, no doubt, a way of setting limits to the extent which such retribution might be carried out - at least, among the Israelites.
An eye for an eye makes the world look blind.