Great video guys, though I wanna mention, the reason why the tea from the Breville was hotter than the Penrose, is most likely due to the heat loss from pouring water from the Bonavita to the Penrose. I'd guess you probably lost a good 5 - 10 degrees. Since the water in the Breville stays in the same vessel it was heated in, there going to be minimal heat loss resulting in a hotter brew.
I'd add that they might not heat exactly to the same temperature. For example, 90°C on the Breville could be as hot as 95°C with the Penrose. I've also heard that the Breville was moving the basket or making the water spin to infuse better. So, I'm not surprised you don't get the same results with the same settings (temperature/duration).
Thanks for taking the time to do this! I think the one-touch approach is really exciting. I didn't really cook with rice until I got a Zojirushi rice cooker (which cooks rice perfectly), so I see an analogy here. Been trying to cut down on soda for caffeine and any way to make that more appealing, such as making tea in a one-touch machine instead of the traditional 2 step process, is great!
You can also preheat the ceramic. I usually pour boiling water into my teapots and/or cafetiere to warm them up whilst I'm getting my kettle up to heat. My low tech approach: fill vessel with boiling water, refill kettle, get brew basket ready or coffee measure, then with thermapen I turn off the kettle just before it gets to heat and pour when it settles a degree or two over the target. I like to stir during brewing and then remove basket when time is up. Manual, longer but rewarding.
I think what Eldersprig means is that the teapot is supposed to be hot before put in the tea and put in fresh hot water, for there to be less heat loss. So you would be preheating the Penrose teapot.
I don't know that we were; it was more the traditional vs. automated way of doing things. Since we never preheat our teapots (nor did we even think about doing it here!) it's probably closer to a comparison of how we prep in our own lives. - Kat
The temperature difference is due to the fact that the ladies didn't preheat the teapot with a bit of hot water first (which gets thrown out). If you warm up the teapot first with some hot water, then you will get similar cups of tea with like temperatures.
I get that; but the tea actually tasted better to us using the prep that we did, so I don't know that I would actually do that if what I was looking for was wider range of notes in the cup. - Kat
If you are making green tea or white tea this tea maker is a must!!!!Or at least for me it is because I always seem to get green tea wrong and the same goes for white tea.
I have a question,have you or anyone you know tried to make a tea called Pu-erh with this machine??I heard its hard to make correctly is why I am asking.Thanks in advance!!!
CAJFB We haven't made pu-erh with the One-Touch, but I think you can do it by setting your own parameters (not using the stock time / temp options). - Kat
Nice review! Is this Breville Electric Tea Kettle still functioning properly and would you recommend it? I need to know how products hold up over time, thank you.
This tea maker is awesome. I've had it only a few days and I can taste the difference in my herbal teas. It has nice delicate balance of flavor :) I guess I need a scale now if I want to do fresh herbs like you ladies did in this video. Does fresh tea leaves taste better than the pre-packed tea bags? I usually just throw tea bag in basket not sure if I am missing out on better flavor.
Teabags are generally cut into smaller pieces which some people don't like. It is believed that teabags constrict the tea from fully expanding. It's just a matter of personal preference. If you find a tea that you like with in a bag, I'd say drink it. -Steven
Hello Eldersprig, Which teapot are you referring to? You need hot water in the teapot to steep the tea; if you pour it out you have nothing to steep with...
my one touch actually raises and lowers the basket during the brew time. I always thought that was the intended behavior. I notice your unit leaves it down in the water the whole time. I have an earlier unit so maybe that's why.
Thank you great vid! Just got the Sage can you recommend some great teas and also an everyday tea to replace my better halfs tea bag choice (PG tips, Twinnings, Ty-Phoo, and tetley to name but a few) Cheers.
Hi Chris Coles, Congrats on your new purchase! When choosing tea, it all depends on what you like. We offer a variety of herbal, green, black and more fruitier teas by Rishi here: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/coffee-tea?cat=280 & teas by Dammann here: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/coffee-tea?manufacturer=Dammann+Freres. Both of these brands have excellent choices and you really can't go wrong with either. I hope this helps! :-) - Sarah
Xaratemplate, I have always measured my loose leaf teas. What is the advantage to weighing tea as opposed to measuring it? And how do you find out how much tea to weigh in for a teapot? The Darjeeling Summer tea I am currently using only gives directions of rounded teaspoons per cup (which is usually 6 ounces, but with this brand is 8 ounces). If I want to make a pot of tea, I would have to calculate the measurement with simple math. Thanks so much.
Weight is more accurate than measuring by volume, only slightly. It's hard to say since each tea different in weight. I would just go with the directions the box gives you. If they use volume, just go with volume. - Steven
Great video guys, though I wanna mention, the reason why the tea from the Breville was hotter than the Penrose, is most likely due to the heat loss from pouring water from the Bonavita to the Penrose. I'd guess you probably lost a good 5 - 10 degrees. Since the water in the Breville stays in the same vessel it was heated in, there going to be minimal heat loss resulting in a hotter brew.
So true - and good point! :-)
I'd add that they might not heat exactly to the same temperature. For example, 90°C on the Breville could be as hot as 95°C with the Penrose. I've also heard that the Breville was moving the basket or making the water spin to infuse better. So, I'm not surprised you don't get the same results with the same settings (temperature/duration).
Thanks for taking the time to do this! I think the one-touch approach is really exciting. I didn't really cook with rice until I got a Zojirushi rice cooker (which cooks rice perfectly), so I see an analogy here. Been trying to cut down on soda for caffeine and any way to make that more appealing, such as making tea in a one-touch machine instead of the traditional 2 step process, is great!
I'm 16 and I get so excited when a new video of your's comes out! haha love all of your videos :)
You can also preheat the ceramic. I usually pour boiling water into my teapots and/or cafetiere to warm them up whilst I'm getting my kettle up to heat. My low tech approach: fill vessel with boiling water, refill kettle, get brew basket ready or coffee measure, then with thermapen I turn off the kettle just before it gets to heat and pour when it settles a degree or two over the target. I like to stir during brewing and then remove basket when time is up. Manual, longer but rewarding.
I think what Eldersprig means is that the teapot is supposed to be hot before put in the tea and put in fresh hot water, for there to be less heat loss. So you would be preheating the Penrose teapot.
I don't know that we were; it was more the traditional vs. automated way of doing things. Since we never preheat our teapots (nor did we even think about doing it here!) it's probably closer to a comparison of how we prep in our own lives. - Kat
The temperature difference is due to the fact that the ladies didn't preheat the teapot with a bit of hot water first (which gets thrown out). If you warm up the teapot first with some hot water, then you will get similar cups of tea with like temperatures.
I get that; but the tea actually tasted better to us using the prep that we did, so I don't know that I would actually do that if what I was looking for was wider range of notes in the cup. - Kat
If you are making green tea or white tea this tea maker is a must!!!!Or at least for me it is because I always seem to get green tea wrong and the same goes for white tea.
Thanks for sharing! I love it :) - Kat
I have a question,have you or anyone you know tried to make a tea called Pu-erh with this machine??I heard its hard to make correctly is why I am asking.Thanks in advance!!!
CAJFB We haven't made pu-erh with the One-Touch, but I think you can do it by setting your own parameters (not using the stock time / temp options). - Kat
I know, I know ... but I don't know that I think it's that important. The tea was actually better to me out of the Penrose setup ... - Kat
Great tips!! Thanks for sharing them with us. - Kat
Nice review! Is this Breville Electric Tea Kettle still functioning properly and would you recommend it? I need to know how products hold up over time, thank you.
Great machine! We do have them available on the site - let me know if you need anything as you're finalizing ... happy to help. - Kat
This tea maker is awesome. I've had it only a few days and I can taste the difference in my herbal teas. It has nice delicate balance of flavor :) I guess I need a scale now if I want to do fresh herbs like you ladies did in this video. Does fresh tea leaves taste better than the pre-packed tea bags? I usually just throw tea bag in basket not sure if I am missing out on better flavor.
Teabags are generally cut into smaller pieces which some people don't like. It is believed that teabags constrict the tea from fully expanding. It's just a matter of personal preference. If you find a tea that you like with in a bag, I'd say drink it. -Steven
Thanks for the information!
Interesting - since we've tested them from the beginning, it lowers when it reaches brew temp and raises afterwards. - Kat
Cool! Glad you're diggin' em. - Kat
Hello Eldersprig, Which teapot are you referring to? You need hot water in the teapot to steep the tea; if you pour it out you have nothing to steep with...
We wouldn't recommend that use. Give a french press a try!
We didn't; I also thought that it was the difference between the glass or the porcelain - Kat
Yay!!! It's an awesome gadget -- enjoy it :D - Kat
Good point on the bloom element :) - Kat
Can you use Breville to make normal black tea and sweeten it, that's a southern thing and I love Breville but it seems more like for herbal stuff?
Perhaps mine is wonky then. Figured it made sense since its common to agitate tea during the brew process.
Oh well, still makes great tea in my case.
did you preheat the pot in both cases? If the pot wasn't preheated that will affect the temperature of infusion
So true! Preheating the pot will definitely effect the final product. However, it doesn't appear they preheated the pots in this experiment. - Sarah
Heh. Shall I quote? "Does it produce a better cup than if you tried to approximate the same process using standard tools?"
Excellent choice. a) You can. b) You should.
great video, thanks for the information!
I love all your videos !! ..I apologize for not commenting for a long time. I am gonna buy a Quickmill dual boiler. can I get it from you ?
I thought it was odd you didn’t cover your pot while it steeped.
Well, it may not be that important when you're not trying to duplicate the same results with two variable temp kettle setups...
my one touch actually raises and lowers the basket during the brew time. I always thought that was the intended behavior. I notice your unit leaves it down in the water the whole time. I have an earlier unit so maybe that's why.
Thank you great vid! Just got the Sage can you recommend some great teas and also an everyday tea to replace my better halfs tea bag choice (PG tips, Twinnings, Ty-Phoo, and tetley to name but a few) Cheers.
Hi Chris Coles, Congrats on your new purchase! When choosing tea, it all depends on what you like. We offer a variety of herbal, green, black and more fruitier teas by Rishi here: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/coffee-tea?cat=280 & teas by Dammann here: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/coffee-tea?manufacturer=Dammann+Freres. Both of these brands have excellent choices and you really can't go wrong with either. I hope this helps! :-) - Sarah
Xaratemplate, I have always measured my loose leaf teas. What is the advantage to weighing tea as opposed to measuring it? And how do you find out how much tea to weigh in for a teapot? The Darjeeling Summer tea I am currently using only gives directions of rounded teaspoons per cup (which is usually 6 ounces, but with this brand is 8 ounces). If I want to make a pot of tea, I would have to calculate the measurement with simple math. Thanks so much.
Weight is more accurate than measuring by volume, only slightly. It's hard to say since each tea different in weight. I would just go with the directions the box gives you. If they use volume, just go with volume. - Steven
Key word is 'approximate' ;) - Kat
Did she say 33 grams per 1000ml? If so that is more than four times the recommended amount.
I am lazy so I appreciate my one touch LOL. Thanks for the comparison.
O noes! You didn't preheat the teapot!
please do a blind taste test.
"Jim Morrison realllllllly loved his tea..."
Common sense prevails. Always (or almost always) follow the directions on the box when measuring tea. Thank you for your good advice!
Pam from the Office :D
Wow, the laugh of the lady running the camera, which laughs at nothing, is enuff to break up a marriage. Holy husband suicide.
I agreements, such wow, very distraction…hehe
Confused. Aren't you supposed to put hot water in the teapot and then pour it out, before steeping the tea? May be you stick to the coffee videos.
nop, no need fore that.
Bunny youre a nice Girl ;)