@@suezuccati304 wtf are you saying? it was to play around Mystic mine since they didnt do it in this tourney, and since they have such an intellectual play that we humans cannot understand, it means that Mystic mine is banned in the future of the AI. thats some great news!
As a swordsoul player, it genuinely hurt my soul watching the bot just refuse to make any swordsoul plays, they had an absolutely cracked hand and just refuse to play properly.
the funniest thing about swordsoul was that it could consistently blow through shaman/3x monk turn 1 and then it wouldn't have a choice but to synchro. so the deck just activated after turn 1 basically
The issue was that it wanted to use shaman to infinitely recycle monks until the end of times with their top decks. This only stopped when it randomly blew up their shaman with blackout (twice).
I assume the bot just doesn't recognize which of the targets is on the field and which are in the graveyard. Or it doesn't have a priority to keep it in the field.
I do wonder what sort of bots are being used since I feel like a basic machine learning especially with some training data should be able to do slightly better in terms of destroying own cards or banishing own access code
@@U1TR4F0RCE The bots r EDOPro’s Feeling Lucky AI which from what I can tell has been trained to activate as many effects as possible. Their deck-specific bots r pretty good imo but they were trained for their deck exactly and switching them to other decks confuses them
Maybe if it has a banish target in the graveyard with the same attribute as itself, it prioritizes banishing that one first, so it can't banish itself the same turn. It probably only banishes itself if it doesn't
Someone tell Farfa that he can actually do bot tournaments in Master Duel provided he uses the offline client It'd be interesting to see a bot tournament where the bot doesn't completely fumble with some decks, though yeah it'd be not as funny
nah offline master duel ai is too retarded 95% of duel they will only set 1 monster and put backrow pass at least in edopro they have some scripted ai in some decks
@@totalwartimelapses6359 Just a thought but if you pasted a link in the comment section its prolly getting auto deleted. TH-camrs can activate that setting to prevent some bots and spammers.
@@roarbahamut9866 No I didn't post any links, I know from the past that it's not a good idea to do that I just wrote that phrase in the quotation marks (but unaltered of course) and I can't tell which word causes the delete
I'm pretty impressed with the Duel Links Auto-Duel AI right now. This AI literally can't see half a step ahead. That it used Called By on Ash was already a huge surprise.
I felt like watching a duelist break down, man. It didn't want to play the swordsoul part of the deck, but in the end it had to... Pretty sad state of affairs imo
The problem with the AI is that it'll ALWAYS attempt an available play; weather it's bad or not. I think the bots would unironically do better in older formats like Goat or Edison
AI player:Has game ending psychic end punisher on board who just has to attack... Also AI player:"Lemme just banish it for literally no reason and throw the game"
I prayed so hard for the VW AI to draw kowloon once while it had 4 gates on field. Just seeing it summon like 3 of the VW bosses for free would have been so amazing.
I should expect it.... but watching the bot play is really stressful. Especially the final match the Xuanwu to Chenchen every turn. Anyway great tournament 10/10 will watch again!
The bot that tribute summoned Nibiru was simply too smart to be lured into activating Nib and losing the game to an attack position token. True 5Head play.
The Plot for this was Heart Pumping, as we watched Swordsoul master the art of Tenyi Control. It expertly maneuvered through the tournament, you able to see glimpses of the Bot learning, until the ending arrived, and you saw them finally show what they've learned, summon Qixing Longyuan for Game!
If the AI plays Earth Machine, they just spam link summons and avoid xyz all together before ending on two Double Headed Anger Knuckle and passing. It's pretty funny to see AI pilot decks
Give the AI a deck like Synchron. Can almost promise you they'll set up hourly or actually get it correct. Because that deck sorta has the type of thing an AI could probably comprehend.
It felt like the AI either prioritizes link monsters and is rabidly summoning them whenever there’s a possible link summon, hence the adventure monsters into knightmare and accesscode into balelynx, and/or the Swordsoul bot can’t recognize that it will get a synchro from the Mo Ye effect so it doesn’t consider that an option and continues to see tenyi summons and barrels down that path.
I would love to see what the bots would do with Solfachord or Gusto, do they even know how to pendulum or use all the different Gusto effects correctly?
Its always amusing that the bot cant comprehend normal a salad into balelynx to trigger parralel, but the moment it gets a handtrap its just immediately dropped in attack mode to summon almiraj.
That goddamn SS bot took not only until the finals, but it took drawing Triple Longyuan just to be like "Oh yeah, we have SS synchros, there's one named Longyuan!"
i've totally seen like a thai server edopro did some coding to make the ai did a fixed combo line and they made them did the mermaid orcust combo into savage dragon + orcust board and those bot at least know how to pilot the deck and doesn't just combo all resources into unicorn spin self pretty sure the devs just doesn't care tbh
The bots on this program know how to do the combos for the decks that it comes with (including the Mermaid/Orcust combo you mention). It just doesn't use any of that logic for other decks.
Watching this makes me wonder how much of meta Yugioh is playing unique archetypes and how much of it is just playing Punks, Dagda, Token stuff, Magicians Souls, Nibiru, and Branded.
next bot tournament, use a bunch of decks that railroad you into specific plays, shit like Photon. Can't fuck up if all your cards require exact board states to be used 5head
the ai has learned only from the finest anime episodes where they in the same sentence say atk points are not everything that matters if a monster has good effects and why is he summoning a monster with less attack than my monsters.
I was so proud of the bot for doing an Insane combo summoning access code talker! Then I immediately became disappointed the moment I witnessed it banish itself.. it was so close to doing a combo. RIP Accesscode Talker
The main problem is that the bots have no sense of "cost" so they'll discard their key combo pieces, pop their own cards, and use their boss monsters as material. Also, they have no concept of "gameplan" so they mess up any search, and pull the trigger on any quick effects or traps ASAP. The best bot deck would feature completely reactive cards that don't pay cost, and single-purpose monsters it can't misplay. A rank-4 toolbox with gadgets, kagetokage, tin goldfish, etc. and basic traps like mirror force and bottomless would do well I think.
The zeke guy isnt in the description.. dunno who to look for... also I LOVE THESE.. would be an amazing monthly.. but should be bigger and with more deck variety and you can even have 2 shout casters lmao... you and mbt would be great or with sir emmanon
All the bots basically only know how to activate cards and not how to use them. some bots probably don't even know how to make the extra deck cards mentions
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Shout outs to Zeak for running this tournament check em out at Zeak6464 - th-cam.com/channels/95KrRAoeYI2iHywzS7_clA.html
Farfa pls report those bots
"Machines will rule the world."
*Watches AI Fog Blade their own monster.*
Sure they will.
Stockfish: "I'm 14 dimensions ahead of you."
Self Fog-Blade is actually legit in like some corner cases where you need the battle lock more than the negate.
The AI after summoning unicorn to spin itself back:
"My goals are beyond your understanding"
@@kauanjos3199 they were trying to use the Unicorn spin to reach the infinite rotation... Okay, I stopped.
@@suezuccati304 wtf are you saying? it was to play around Mystic mine
since they didnt do it in this tourney, and since they have such an intellectual play that we humans cannot understand, it means that Mystic mine is banned in the future of the AI. thats some great news!
If a fish can synchro summon, surely robots can play yugioh
Considering plants are link summoning now, I think you have a point
@@chrismcdonald6079 So does the link monster :)
of course fish can synchro summon
some of them are tunas
It turns out that bots refuse to synchro, unlike fish
Surely they can play yugioh (clueless)
nibiru is literally the win con for half of these. and their boss monster at that point too.
No GETTING nibbed is their wincon and then playing token beatdown
@@elfyar5786 i never said WHOSE win con it was. just that it IS the win con
@@anotherjason exactly what I was thinking after reading your comment
The bots are like hero players, they really like Elemental HERO primal being token
“It thinks it’s bad because it has 0 atk” as the bot normal summons Ash
I think bot is programmed to not summon anything with less atk than something opp has
*attacks with ash*
Sword soul had me in tears! Bot took one look at it's synchros and said "nah, just give me all those Tenyi."
As a swordsoul player, it genuinely hurt my soul watching the bot just refuse to make any swordsoul plays, they had an absolutely cracked hand and just refuse to play properly.
@@peekay120 The bot wanted to maintain its ego and dignity before it gave in to the synchro shokan
the funniest thing about swordsoul was that it could consistently blow through shaman/3x monk turn 1 and then it wouldn't have a choice but to synchro. so the deck just activated after turn 1 basically
The issue was that it wanted to use shaman to infinitely recycle monks until the end of times with their top decks. This only stopped when it randomly blew up their shaman with blackout (twice).
There needs to be at least 1 Gren Maju deck in every tournament, there's no way a bot could mess that up
I just imagine it going ??? Atk and Def , nah. Set to defense and I guarantee the bots will still attack into it 😂
I was gonna say "normal summon Necroface", but there are even times when it can be good.
Gold Sarc for Droplet or sth
If there is a single link monster in the extra, I guarantee you, they can.
I don’t think the bot could recognize the effect of Gren Maju and will end up decking itself out
he had the full plant combo but instead decided to summon driver.
When even literal randomizer robots can get carried by Mystic Mine that's how we know that card's a mistake
Nah, it's because Eldlich is an archtype where you only need to select yes
NOOOOOOOO JUST DRAW THE OUT BRO MY CARD IS FAIR
you just found a way to test if cards are truly broken. quick start making content on it before the other yugitubers.
dont you remenber what happened last time though
Just play around it and don't monkey combo ;)
all I'm taking from this tournament is that next time you need to give one of these bots pure Tenyi so we can see the true potential of that deck
It really makes me wonder what the coding is for Access to banish itself first sometimes but not all the time
I assume the bot just doesn't recognize which of the targets is on the field and which are in the graveyard. Or it doesn't have a priority to keep it in the field.
I do wonder what sort of bots are being used since I feel like a basic machine learning especially with some training data should be able to do slightly better in terms of destroying own cards or banishing own access code
@@U1TR4F0RCE The bots r EDOPro’s Feeling Lucky AI which from what I can tell has been trained to activate as many effects as possible. Their deck-specific bots r pretty good imo but they were trained for their deck exactly and switching them to other decks confuses them
Someone needs to Talk to Access's Code
Maybe if it has a banish target in the graveyard with the same attribute as itself, it prioritizes banishing that one first, so it can't banish itself the same turn.
It probably only banishes itself if it doesn't
Last season:
Unicorn Spin itself.
This Season:
Accesscode Banish itself.... Lol
To be fair accesscode banishing itself comes up....sometimes
Someone tell Farfa that he can actually do bot tournaments in Master Duel provided he uses the offline client
It'd be interesting to see a bot tournament where the bot doesn't completely fumble with some decks, though yeah it'd be not as funny
nah offline master duel ai is too retarded 95% of duel they will only set 1 monster and put backrow pass
at least in edopro they have some scripted ai in some decks
Whats the offline client?
I don't know what part of those replies causes the deletion....so I'll play around it: just joogle the following "Faster Muel offline klient"
@@totalwartimelapses6359 Just a thought but if you pasted a link in the comment section its prolly getting auto deleted. TH-camrs can activate that setting to prevent some bots and spammers.
@@roarbahamut9866
No I didn't post any links, I know from the past that it's not a good idea to do that
I just wrote that phrase in the quotation marks (but unaltered of course) and I can't tell which word causes the delete
I'm pretty impressed with the Duel Links Auto-Duel AI right now.
This AI literally can't see half a step ahead. That it used Called By on Ash was already a huge surprise.
I felt like watching a duelist break down, man. It didn't want to play the swordsoul part of the deck, but in the end it had to...
Pretty sad state of affairs imo
AI banishing Accesscode for Access effect is just the new Unicorn shuffle itself
these bot tournaments are really my favorite content from you, its hilarious to watch the bots make random lines that either work or make no sense
Its a huge advantage to have less links
would be cool to make a tournament out of this where people make a deck they think would work with the bots
The problem with the AI is that it'll ALWAYS attempt an available play; weather it's bad or not. I think the bots would unironically do better in older formats like Goat or Edison
40 trap cards
AI player:Has game ending psychic end punisher on board who just has to attack...
Also AI player:"Lemme just banish it for literally no reason and throw the game"
I prayed so hard for the VW AI to draw kowloon once while it had 4 gates on field. Just seeing it summon like 3 of the VW bosses for free would have been so amazing.
I should expect it.... but watching the bot play is really stressful. Especially the final match the Xuanwu to Chenchen every turn. Anyway great tournament 10/10 will watch again!
Watching swoswo bot keep mo ye in hand until it played all wyrms gave me an anxiety attack every single time.
That Xuanwu shuffle was so frustrating. It's like a 1 off why did the bot keep drawing it
"If there is [artificial] intelligence out there in the universe, let's teach them how to duel!" ---Seto Kaiba
The bot that tribute summoned Nibiru was simply too smart to be lured into activating Nib and losing the game to an attack position token. True 5Head play.
Remember the Autoduel AI from Duel Links? This is it now. Feel old yet?
I am a returning player to Yu-Gi-Oh. I will study these combo lines and take them to my next duel tournament!
The Plot for this was Heart Pumping, as we watched Swordsoul master the art of Tenyi Control.
It expertly maneuvered through the tournament, you able to see glimpses of the Bot learning, until the ending arrived, and you saw them finally show what they've learned, summon Qixing Longyuan for Game!
If the AI plays Earth Machine, they just spam link summons and avoid xyz all together before ending on two Double Headed Anger Knuckle and passing. It's pretty funny to see AI pilot decks
Give the AI a deck like Synchron. Can almost promise you they'll set up hourly or actually get it correct. Because that deck sorta has the type of thing an AI could probably comprehend.
It felt like the AI either prioritizes link monsters and is rabidly summoning them whenever there’s a possible link summon, hence the adventure monsters into knightmare and accesscode into balelynx, and/or the Swordsoul bot can’t recognize that it will get a synchro from the Mo Ye effect so it doesn’t consider that an option and continues to see tenyi summons and barrels down that path.
Shifter into ash taking 200 was peak
I would love to see what the bots would do with Solfachord or Gusto, do they even know how to pendulum or use all the different Gusto effects correctly?
Tribute summoning Nibiru has unironically won me so many games before.
i wonder what a tournament like this would look like if the bots were given decks built specifically to be as hard to mess up as possible.
After seeing this, I will never feel as bad again about my own misplays.. XD
Its always amusing that the bot cant comprehend normal a salad into balelynx to trigger parralel, but the moment it gets a handtrap its just immediately dropped in attack mode to summon almiraj.
Haven‘t lauged like that in years, the tears just kept coming. Ty for that video.
Bots tourney: Unicorn spin itself
Bots tourney II: Accesscode banish itself
This was insanely fun.
Part 3?
I'd love to see a tournament of bot specific decks, designed for simple play and avoiding their throws. I wonder what kinda meta would develop.
Tenyi mirrors
@@MasterPeaceTrueGlue-EatingKing Honestly I cannot see any decks with links being viable in such a setting. The AI is too bad with them.
That goddamn SS bot took not only until the finals, but it took drawing Triple Longyuan just to be like "Oh yeah, we have SS synchros, there's one named Longyuan!"
It just wanted to play Tengi control. :(
i've totally seen like a thai server edopro did some coding to make the ai did a fixed combo line and they made them did the mermaid orcust combo into savage dragon + orcust board
and those bot at least know how to pilot the deck and doesn't just combo all resources into unicorn spin self
pretty sure the devs just doesn't care tbh
The bots on this program know how to do the combos for the decks that it comes with (including the Mermaid/Orcust combo you mention). It just doesn't use any of that logic for other decks.
@@SeanSevje the real difficulty is that you would need to teach bots to evaluate cards, which can be absurdly tricky
Video idea: Human with shitty deck vs Bots with super consistent meta deck
Thats just the single player mode in master duel (with the loaner decks).
In some of these you need to draw the perfect hand and the AI must brick or over commit on the first turn to have any chance.
Full power drytron vs meglo
Watching this makes me wonder how much of meta Yugioh is playing unique archetypes and how much of it is just playing Punks, Dagda, Token stuff, Magicians Souls, Nibiru, and Branded.
Like 4 years ago everyone complain about archetypes and now y’all want it back
@@ninjadandy9166 I wasn’t playing Yugioh four years ago and I like types and archetypes.
@@ninjadandy9166 who complained about archtypes?
@@Jrpg_guy tbh back in the day a lot of people were complaining about archetypes because muh creativity
@@Jrpg_guy i just saw some people complain about archetypes in another video because "creativity"
Farfa with the Duel Music from Yugioh GX tag force evolution on the PS2
EDOPro: Would you like to chain....
Feelin' lucky AI: Yes, yes, I don't care what it is just yes.
so much more respect for the ai in tag force or any of the world championship games now
I will be learning how to make a bot for yugioh deck building and playing, it'll be a proper AI, and will play lots of online so be ready Farfa
Firewall Pass died so Accesscode Pass could live.
I need this to be a more common occurrence. I haven't laughed like this in a while
The best bot deck is a deck where they don't have to do anything too complicated or tribute their own cards for effects
Last one was amazing, almost fell from the chair from laugh
next bot tournament, use a bunch of decks that railroad you into specific plays, shit like Photon. Can't fuck up if all your cards require exact board states to be used 5head
Damn, I would have sworn a cockroach could pilot Flunder. The bot let me down :(
A programming competition involving yugioh sounds like a wicked idea!
I don't know who programs these bots, but they really got to work on the bots NOT targeting their own monsters with detrimental effects lol
"It is just Tenyi control. Please summon a Synchro monster."
*Summoning the thenyi synchro*
27:26 that's just a normal eldlich game. what bot?
I'm sorry did you say Marincess are meta?
When did this happen.
the ai has learned only from the finest anime episodes where they in the same sentence say atk points are not everything that matters if a monster has good effects and why is he summoning a monster with less attack than my monsters.
I swear the Dueling Nexus bot is smarter than this.
Considering most of the meta depends only on two, tree cards like numeron i would say yeah
Tenyi Control best deck let's gooo!!!!
Also a moments silence for Unicorn spin itself.
Oh my God I love you so much when you upload this format
Try D/D/D for the next tournament, it'll be fun for a bot
it be lucky if it wins a game conisdering that it has a link monster
Proves the the skill level of swordsoul being extremely low I guess.
When the bot is scamming
"Can Bots play Yugioh?"
*me who takes a slightly look on 90% of the Master Duell players with an asian name
I was so proud of the bot for doing an Insane combo summoning access code talker! Then I immediately became disappointed the moment I witnessed it banish itself.. it was so close to doing a combo. RIP Accesscode Talker
i love this content you can make a channel with exclusively this content and i would watch all of it
I feel you, Salamangreat bot, we all banished our accesscode at one point
I really appreciate that you put Marincess in the meta and not in the rouge category, ahh felt soo good ^^
i like that the swordsoul bot was just playing tenyi control lol
watching accesscode banish itself each time hurt my soul
Tribute summon Nibiru to BM your opponent is something I would expect from a human, but a robot doing it destroyed me
Literally saw and shared with a buddy part one last night. We can’t wait lol good stuff or uhh stuff
I'm interested in what's the best bot deck in general. I imagine it's something with as little effects as possible like Dino Rabbit
Give em edison or goat decks. Would be fine
Give them alister
@@lalihoi8625 yes, set and pass
That's how I combo when I play the deck for first time and click ok whenever I can without knowing what it does
The best boy deck is the one where you click yes if a prompt show up.
The main problem is that the bots have no sense of "cost" so they'll discard their key combo pieces, pop their own cards, and use their boss monsters as material. Also, they have no concept of "gameplan" so they mess up any search, and pull the trigger on any quick effects or traps ASAP.
The best bot deck would feature completely reactive cards that don't pay cost, and single-purpose monsters it can't misplay. A rank-4 toolbox with gadgets, kagetokage, tin goldfish, etc. and basic traps like mirror force and bottomless would do well I think.
So this is how we fix Yu-Gi-Oh... We start requiring mandatory lobotomies for all players
I’ve never been more excited for anything that I am for bot tournament 2. Ok that’s super not true but I’m still excited
I learned in Duel links, bots can't play. I build a P.B. deck and the bot can't use it.
Seeing all those nibs battling, we can assume war rocks as the winner
Is that bot Theduellogs? It was trying so hard to play just the Tenyi half of the deck.
This needs a part 3
I was eager to see some unicorn tech again, but the monk beatdown a la DuelLogs is good too
The zeke guy isnt in the description.. dunno who to look for... also I LOVE THESE.. would be an amazing monthly.. but should be bigger and with more deck variety and you can even have 2 shout casters lmao... you and mbt would be great or with sir emmanon
The mad lad did it again let’s see if these bits have gotten any better
All the bots basically only know how to activate cards and not how to use them. some bots probably don't even know how to make the extra deck cards mentions
Hey my man a deck idea for the next Episode would be DDD ...I think that would be very funny
The salad bot was just essentially doing the combo.
the BETA Unicorn spin itself vs the CHAD Accesscode banish itself
I'm sure swordsoul was just hiding its main engine so it can screen into the real power house...
1000 ATK non-effect monster, too strong.
I wonder if the computer just picks the first option for every decision
I just lives the persona 3 Sony in the background
Banish Accesscode for cost makes me think these bots have learned from master duel ladder /j
with the banlist about to murder tear we need another one of these with just 16 different ishizu tear lists
Persona 3 background music BASED