I started using Bricks just 2 days ago, coming from 3 years with Elementor. I agree that Bricks doesn't need someone to be a developer to use it. Anyone who's building websites, if he knows basic terminology of code makes his life easier. When someone understands the inspect tool the same time will understand how messed up Elementor footprint is on the code. I opened the today the html page of Bricks and I got shocked how clean is the code. Overall Bricks is much better because is like you are using Elementor but coding with Visual Studio 😂, Elementor has a little better UI for amateurs. I understand the people feeling scared and overwhelmed if they do the switch but if you have a little more time to explore bricks you will get rewarded!
Bricks is German quality 😉 But the 3rd party plug ins of Elementor are still superior. In 3,4 years Bricks will surely fill this gap. I personally,as an amateur,like both builders.
@@georgivasilev3867 I agree that Elementor has a great ecosystem, but when you pass the amateur level you will push yourself to stop using extra Plug-ins and try to compete a design just with Elementor and some custom CSS and JS. When you find yourself in this path then Bricks will be there waiting for you. For now I think bricks doesn't even need extra Plug-ins to complete a nice modern Website.
@@georgivasilev3867 Oh really, it's German? I'm currently using Elementor and thinking about learning Bricks. My work flow for clients is built on Elementor but thinking about the new accessibility guidelines for 2025 makes me think about switching as Elementor seems to lack the possibility to make a 100% accessible website (even though Google tells me otherwise with 100% accessibilty score). For me the hesitation is not about learning Bricks but to change my workflow, get another license, change my offers a little, premade template websites I offer with Elementor... I think it's easy to get into Bricks if you know the fundamentals of webdesign. Elementor and Bricks are just tools which basically work the same.
I got so used to building with Elementor that when I switched to Bricks, I was styling at the ID level and completely ignored the ability to apply classes. The class system alone is worth the switch in my honest opinion. And if you’re not used to writing pure CSS, go and learn it - it will save you so much time and elevate your game tenfold.
Awesome video Paul! I'm a huge Elementor user and also an Elementor Community Leader. However, because of some limitations I've experienced in Elmentor I have moved over to Bricks. I won't be switching any of my client websites from Elementor to Bricks though. But, I have made the decision to start using Bricks for any new client projects I acquire. I'm a huge dynamic data developer using Pods for my custom field development so being able to increase my capabilities of presenting that data is a huge improvement.
I just bought the lifetime, unlimited licenses for Bricks. As the price is going up soon. Using Elementor but going to switch over, and won't have any more ongoing builder costs anymore :P
I was debating between Bricks and block editor, and this video was really helpful. Since I'm using the Elementor container, I think I can start Bricks without difficulty.
Elementor has started new era of building my dream website in the long run! It did helped me out fishing the elements a new hope! I am much satisfied cooling the fan on learning elementor and now happy using bricks after that!
I think that a lot of problems people have moving from one to the other is simply because they didn't evolve with Elementor: they just use it like with the first few versions of Elementor and don't use the newer features like global styles, flexbox, grids, etc... My designer is one of them: she has as much difficulty with the "new" Container in Elementor than with the one in Bricks: the problem is not Bricks, but new way of working... For those who evolved with it, the gap is way smaller...
Very good point. But, if we call ourselves designers or developers, we have a responsibility to learn and improve or become irrelevant in the future. :)
We have always used Elementor and have been extremely reluctant to switch. Even the last couple of days I have been up and down about switching. A client complaining about speed on their Elementor site, albeit a rather big one, led me to start looking around a bit more seriously. Bricks' lifetime licence drew me in (double the price of last year put me off slightly! Haha) but then many saying you needed to be a developer put me off, as I, personally, class myself as a designer instead of a developer. Felt I was better where I was, with Elementor. However, having watched this explanation, and having used Elementor flex box from experimental stages, I am now firmly pointed towards Bricks. The real kicker was Elementor's look forward to 2024 and nothing of note about serious performance gains.
The 2024 roadmap was more of a look back at 2023 than a look forward. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised if you start working with Bricks. If you're not sure about investing or just want to 'try before you buy' you can use their sandbox to get a fully working version of Bricks to test out.
@@WPTuts Ah I see, I was really scanning for what I wanted to hear! I will certainly give it a go and let you know in due course. Thanks for these videos you produce, the quality is exceptional and the information clear. I found JetEngine through yourself and it opened up the possibilities of what we could produce. Game changer.
Bricks reminds me of that strict father who demands not really much but wants the fundamental things done. Elementor is the mom who says son, I don't care how you do it, but please just get it done.
Thanks Paul, this is really good. I've been using Elementor for years, but quite some time ago I purchased the LTD of Bricks. I did start trying it out but in all honestly I felt it was overcomplicated for such "straight forward tasks" and left it, continuing with Elementor. But now I am making the switch. I do like Elementor but spending the time to delve into Bricks, I'm really liking it and excited about really getting to grips with it for future prijects.
I use both and they are both great and has some annoyances also. Currently I would stick with Elementor if client plans to edit/create pages/posts later by himself or some visually heavy templates. For speed/myself I would choose Bricks, just wish there would be more "freely" available full site or visually interesting templates.
Nice video Paul. You have opened my eyes a bit. This video helps me seeing that the learning curve is actually not that big. But it can definitely feel overwhelming, even for me. I also agree with you that you have more options in Bricks, but what I don’t really agree with is that you said that it’s “just as easy” as Elementor. In my eyes that’s not really true. You kind of gloss over all the little UX differences that constantly create tiny roadblocks for non-coders and therefor make it less intuitive. That’s why I meant in my video. Here are just 2 of those differences that I spotted by looking at your video: - Adding a hover to a button: You have to click on the arrow in the left upper corner (not clear why?) and then know that you have to click inside of the empty field that is called Pseudo classes (a developer term) and then you can select the hover. Many stumbling blocks for something that is just a simple active looking button in Elementor. - Creating a Loop: Here you have to know that you can turn any block into a Loop, but they call it Query Those small differences in UX are easy to spot as a UX designer (what I actually graduated in). I could go on about other small differences, but I think you get the point. My goal is not to start a discussion with this comment, but 1: to share my perspective as a UX designer who loves tools that make things easy for us (even when that means we have sacrifice some things) and 2: to put some more light on the fact that many difference user groups interact with products in different ways. People with a more technical brain (who I call developer minded people) will have an easier time figuring out Bricks without watching many tutorials than the average Elementor user. So that’s why I personally think Bricks will have a harder time getting to a mass adoption point. Unless they also start to think about a better UX, instead of just focussing on being the best builder they can be. Because what most people forget is that the marketing from Elementor is a massive part of the experience of the average user. And marketing cost a lot of money, and you need a lot of users for that. And again: I am interested to put Bricks and other pagebuilders to the test if I have more time, but I just wanted to reply here since I know my latest video connects very well with the subject of this video and I know we have many shared subscribers.
Firstly, thanks for your perspective on the topic and for taking the time to reply and get involved. :) Secondly, just for clarity, I want to say that this video is in no way a response to your video from last week. This video was actually recorded and scheduled before I even saw your video and is in response to the regular comments I see from both Elementor AND Bricks users about the need to be a developer. I think it is always worth bearing in mind that no matter what tool you choose to learn and use that will always be a learning curve that requires a time investment. For example, when Elementor brought in the container (effectively flexbox), there was a learning curve. When they brought in CSSGrid - there was a learning curve. So, no matter what you choose to invest your time into you will have to invest time learning the tool initial, as well as the terminology that tool chooses to employ. Now, some tools like to use their own language (take Gutenberg for example calling their content or block templates patterns instead of templates). In the case of Bricks, they have, in many cases chosen to use industry standard terminology (as you mention about hover, active, etc.) I would argue that it is better to learn and use industry standard terminology over unique, product specific terminology that makes transitioning to other tools more time consuming as you are starting from scratch. Finally, I want to reinterate that I am not and never have said any Elementor users SHOULD move to Bricks. The aim of this video was to simply highlight the fact that if anyone does want to explore Bricks coming from an Elementor background, that the common misconception that you need to be a developer to do so was misguided. There are many similarities in workflow that make the learning curve (and yes, there is a learning curve) is less steep than many may believe. :)
You made a nice point, but I don't agree with some Elementor terminologies. The first time I came across loop, I had to search for what is loop in Elementor and how to use it. I discovered it serves the same purpose as query builder, which is a more industry standard name. I'm more of a company using an industry standard name than a custom name. It will be easier for us to switch tools when they use an industry standard name. I see custom name as a wall garden to keep users locked-in. As a UI/UX designer, understanding HTML and CSS is a key to understand the name of elements used in web design/development. I'm finding it easy to use Bricks, Breakdance, Framer and Webflow than Elementor.
@@obvinpro Yea I see you. So it comes down to the point of audience focus. Elementor makes up a new name to make things easier for beginners. But for people that already know what a query is it's confusing. I think this will stay a challenge with creating no-code tools because you are dealing with different kind of people with different kind of knowledge levels.
@@WPTuts Absolutely, I am more open to that now. I also want to clarify that I didn't say that I was sure your video was a response to my video. It just connected well. Its just an interesting conversation that is already in the community. Your point of about every tool has a learning curve is solid. Perhaps I am more biased because I already went through all the pain of learning Elementor, so I don't see the curve that much anymore. I also agree that it's better to learn the industry standard terminology, but I see it more like this: development is already hard enough. Why not make it a bit easier. Not everybody wants to go that deep. Especially not many Elementor user. I think it just comes down to product audience. There should be a product on every level of knowledge. Personally I think Elementor is still a bit struggling on what side they want to be on as a company. That makes this discussion so interesting and hard at the same time. Let's talk later!
Thinking the main advantage of Bricks except for the Class building option is the quality of the code that it generates. I’m currently using Elementor but as a beginner find it quite difficult to spot my errors using code development tools. Very tempted to switch over.
It is kind of strange that the parent container in Elementor is set to "fullwidth" even though the setting says it's "boxed". That threw me off trying to learn it.
Not the way I demonstrated in the video as their actually isn't an inner container to select. It just acts like one is there. You can of course insert a second container and style that one in the same way you can with Bricks.
I've been using Elementor Pro since 2018, and while it's been a go-to tool for my projects, the constant updates and accompanying issues have become a significant concern. Watching this video, I'm now less anxious about the whole 'developer' thing and more excited to learn how Bricks might offer a more stable and efficient workflow. Appreciate the insights!
ChatGPT and AI tools are breaking down the knowledge barriers required to understand and learn CSS as well making it easier to adapt. These tools are going to be game changers in the future
I really appreciate what you are doing with this video. The other day I saw a video from another youtuber explaining why he was sticking with elementor, basically saying that he was confortable with it, and giving the message that it was ok to not wanting to grow, to improve. This person has a responsability not only with his audience, but also the industry, he is influencing people. I don't care what tool people use, but the fact that the reasons he was giving were those, it just blew my mind, and I think is even unethical from him to say certain things.
I know which video, i believe everyone who watches wordpress videos would know. What he said was that his agency is so familiar with elementor that making the change would affect his entire workflow. Which is understandable. He also mentioned that he has ties with the elementor team so there is that to consider. I believe he did say he was interested in giving the other builders a try when he finds the time. These are his reasons not to transition. I dont think growing means switching over to whats new, it means becoming better than you were yesterday at whatever you are doing. Just one guy's opinion.
I am assuming you guys are talking about my video since this is exactly what I talked about and I haven't seen any other video talking about this. So I do want to say a few more things, especially responding to Tiago. Thank you @alvaroespejo7115 for explaining what I meant. I do want to expand on a few things said here. 1. I do have ties with the Elementor team, but I can assure you that I am always putting my audience first. 2. Tiago is saying that I am sharing a message that it is oke to not grow and improve. Which couldn't be further from the truth. How can you say this when I am sharing videos for many years for free, for people to grow and improve. And now there is one moment where I don't jump on the next best thing, and now I am getting this label? A bit weird. 3. I am actually protecting my audience from constantly being disconnected from actually running their business. Many channels focus on many different tools, which in my eyes sometimes does more harm than help. Because many beginners already feel lost enough. So I do take my responsibility very serious, but I just have a different teaching message. Which is totally fine. I actually enjoy watching all the research that Paul does, but that doesn't mean I always agree with the message.
@@rinodeboer I think some clarity is needed on point 3 - audience demographic. As you say, beginners can certainly become overwhelmed when options are presented. However, the majority of my audience are not beginners and appreciate the diversity. There is nothing wrong with either approach - but if you target beginners, there are different things to consider over those more experienced in the field.
Bricks appears to outperform Elementor in speed and efficiency, despite the similarities between the two. What contributes to Bricks' faster performance?
For example, if you place a simple heading on the page, Elementor needs to use four containers for nesting. These dependencies are not easy to discover and it's difficult to safely disable them.
Just open a similar page in dev tools and you'll see. 1. I think that even if I tried my hardest, there's no way I could reach Elementor's code bloating! 2. Elementor is very opinionated, so much so that if you want to change the appearance of an element with custom css, you'll probably need to give it another class (in addition to the 15 it already has), and quite likely have to use !important (or creatively figure a way to overcome the specificity of their selectors). 3. For some reason, they seem to have an obsession with js, and they add js to EVERYTHING! All the links have js on them. All links... Since Bricks allows you to make your on decision instead of determining everything for you, and since you have full control on the classes, it doesn't cause that bloating. But of course it comes with a price of being a little more complex on the ux.
Using bricks with yellow pencil or hero css will be very helpful for people who are not familiar with css. If bricks is a plug-in, using it with a mature theme may make it more acceptable. People will be able to switch from Elementor to Bricks easily, just by switching from one builder to another, and without having to choose from some particularly great theme or a naked theme that needs to be built from scratch.
Now catching this one, Paul. Great vid. How does Bricks integrate with Crocoblock? For me that is the big question. If I can build complex listing sites with Bricks, I'm definitely switching.
Crocoblock supports Bricks, well, the five main tools like JetEngine, filters, search, forms, etc. I still need to see if there are any shortcomings myself, but Crocoblock have a dedicated page outlining their support for Bricks.
Elementor may be the easiest builder to get started with, but many times, Elementor is abandoned because its code is too bloated and its poor performance on mobile. Choosing bricks is probably for the opposite reason. But even bricks are not as fast as blocks-based pages. For non-professional, an excellent theme is so important. In most cases, we just use builders to build code-free content based on the theme to achieve the desired results. This is the norm. Obviously, bricks exist in the form of themes, which severely limits its development. It would be nice if it was a plugin, or an absolutely brilliant theme like blocksy or astra.
I'm actually interested if there are people switching from bricks to elementor at all - if you already started getting used to it, I don't see a point of siwtching - and the pricing doensn't speak for elementor either
The "css selector" is under "planned" on their roadmap. They demonstrated an alpha version last year, but they needed more time to polish it before first release. So, it's coming, probably before summer.
Let's hope they do introduce the ability to have a class first design ethos - but, before summer in a fully tested and non experimental state is, IMHO, unrelasitic when it took almost 18 months to get the Container element out of alpha and beta.
@@vegardbell after watching yesterdays roadmap for Elementor in 2024 there was no mention of this (or pretty much anything of interest). So, I'm not holding out much hope that we'll see this anytime soon.
I'm contemplating switching from Breakdance to Bricks because it's been well over 4 months now and Breakdance has not release any updates or fixes since. They have terrible support and their response times are terrible. Paying a one time fee of $600 per year for a product that gets regular updates and fixes, I'm all for it. Elementor is bloated af and their fancy AI feature is not worth it enough to keep using it. Also I'm not a big fan of subscription models.
Exact same decision for me as well. Breakdance has posted a bunch of videos this week on YT so I think they are preparing for 2.0 but I just don't really trust them that much.
Hey Paul. I have carefully watched your video several times and can come to 3 important conclusions as follows: 1. You are definitely the biggest Antifan of Elementor, and I'm quite curious to ask you about the real reason you hate Elementor so much, have you had some trouble with their leader, right? 2. In many of your previous videos and especially this one. You're trying to prove to your audience that Bricks is smarter and more efficient than Elementor. But in fact, through this video, you have proven to the world that Elementor is really great and much smarter than Bricks. Many users will have the same perspective as me. So let's compare the books specifically: - Bricks is very basic and the interface is only focused on developers with programming knowledge. Even though you tried to introduce it in a friendly way, it's clear that Bricks' leaders completely ignored the features. Its friendly - While Elementor is much friendlier and smarter, it meets both normal users and developers. Both of these objects can be satisfied with Elementor. Don't say that developers mostly hate Elementor, because I've heard a lot of them say Elmenetor is where they save the most time. 3. If I look to the future, which tools should I bet on as a customer? While Bricks is really focused on developers, Elmenetor meets most of the needs of both novices and experts. And one thing is for sure, Elementor is not stupid and cannot do the existing Bricks features, they simply designed it in the most user-friendly way and completely eliminated situations and features. The waste is not too necessary for most users. 4. The last thing I want to remind you of. Elementor is capturing a huge market share and providing services to a huge number of customers. So being criticized by many Antifans like you is a common thing for big companies, but that cannot cover up one thing, they are still the tool that best meets the needs of current users. I can assure you that, if Bricks currently had a large market share and customers like elementor, they would face twice as many complaints and criticism as compared to Elementor currently. And with Bricks' strategy and tool design showing that it only focuses on developers, it is impossible for them to gain a majority market share in the market, because the largest market is ordinary people, with knowledge of the market. Average level of design knowledge. This is Bricks' fatal weakness 5. As a customer, where should I put my trust? A tool that is meeting most of the market needs and has the potential to become more complete and intelligent in the future. Or a conservative tool that only focuses on a specialized audience and is unlikely to have many major breakthroughs in the future like Bricks? 6. And there is one important thing I need to remind you. Maybe you're thinking that most customers are stupid when using elementor???? Don't make such a big mistake! We are the customers and will use whatever tool best serves our business goals. Instead of having to find a tool and have to spend hours learning how to use it. Elementor may not reveal all the capabilities like bricks, but it navigates extremely well so customers can create top-notch and wonderful websites, even speed as many people often complain is not a problem. too big when it can be easily fixed. While Bricks requires customers to learn and learn about tools for a long time, the important thing is that the products that can be created from tools like Bricks mostly look extremely stupid and ugly? 7. You're trying to say that Bricks' workflow is smart and can create great products and is more intelligent and flexible than Elementor. I think you are seriously wrong on this point and in fact the exact opposite is true. And of course you are an Antifan so that only makes sense for you, not the majority of customers like us Bricks can't even compare to webflow with the features and professionalism you are advertising for Bricks. But certainly the future of Bricks will be no different from Webflow, although very professional but not welcomed by the entire market.
WOW! That is one hell of a lot of assumptions! Fisrtly and most importantly, I am NOT an 'Antifan' of Elementor. How you got that from this video is completely beyond me. Nowhere did I bash Elementor or say it was a bad product. In fact, I don't believe I mentioned anything about speed, etc. The whole point of this video was to demonstrate to anyone who hears the comments about needing to be a developer to use Bricks is that it is not true. Sure, understanding CSS, HTML and Javascript can absolutely benefit you. But, that is also true of Elementor - the more you know the more you can get out of these tools. Secondly, nowhere have I said that people who use Elementor (or other tools) are stupid. Please don't misquote me or put words in my mouth that I have never said. That is completely disingenuous and totally undermines any argument you may try to present. Now, let's clear up some of the other comments or points you tried to raise in your reply. 1. I am no 'antifan' of Elementor - if I was, why would I still create content on Elementor? And no, I have no trouble with their leader. In fact, I know very little about the management team behind the product. 2. If you think that working with Elementor is more efficient than a class first tool, then you are 100% missing the point of how much time and effort that can save during design and development. I'd also love to hear what areas you feel Elementor is smarter or more efficient in - genuinely interested. 3. Bricks does NOT concentrate on developers - you have totally missed the point there. This is exactly why I showed the many similarities in workflow between the tools. My point being, if you can use Elementor, you can use Bricks. 4. Great for Elementor - there is nothing at all wrong with them going after major market share and they are doing a great job right now. That doesn't mean it is the best product out there, just the best at marketing and promotion. 5. You can place your trust in whatever brand you feel is right for you. I have no concern for your purchasing decisions or validating what you spend your money on. I've paid for Elementor since Pro was released and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. However, I listen to the community, speak to developers and have a pretty good feel for the overall landscape and you can't ignore the fact that Elementor have made some serious fubars with their pricing plans, feature stripping, removing license levels, etc. Agree or disagree, those are facts. 6. Nowhere have I said or insinuated Elementor customers are stupid or anything else derogatory. However, your analogy of having to learn other tools makes no sense when you literally had to do just that with Elementor when you first started using it. If you don't want to swap tools or spend time learning new skills - no problem at all. Again, I am not suggesting you or anyone else has to. But, if you want to keep on top of web design and the skills surrounding it, you should be learning every day, regardless of whether that entails new software, design skills, etc. Now, you say that Bricks websites look ugly - how out of touch with reality are you? It uses the exact same tool set that pretty much all other web design tools do. CSS Grid, Flexbox, etc. This is the same as Elementor. That really is a stupid point you're trying to make there. 7. Like it or not, a class first design process is far more productive than a non-class first process. That is just a fact and whether you agree or disagree, doesn't change reality. I'll wrap up this reply by saying that while you seem to categorise me as an Elementor 'Antifan' your comments just go to prove that you are an Elementor fanboy/girl and simply don't want anyone to detract from your view of it being the 'best' tool out there for web design. Like Bricks, Breakdance or any of the other myriad of WordPress builders, they are all just tools. This whole stupid tribalism is a complete waste of time and does nothing to further the WordPress community at large.
If anything, I think you’re (very much so) trying to “defend” Elementor. I switched from Elementor to Bricks a long time ago and still love it. Not only the pricing, but also the possibilities (that are just now finding their way to Elementor). Of course, Bricks is not for everyone, but the same pretty much applies to Elementor. If only they had spent more of their budget to developments instead of advertising…
Hey mailnetwork1150, But no idea who you really are? Employee of Elementor? Otherwise I sincerely don't understand your reaction. But if you calmly watch the video again without prejudice, you will come to the conclusion that Paul is not an Antifan of Elementor. He is trying to compare issues as fairly as possible. A large market share does not mean you have the best product. But probably the most resources to promote your product. And don't forget a good DOM structure, which is far from the case with Elementor. Yet structure is essential to the effectiveness and performance of a website. I worked with Elementor from the beginning and built quite a lot of websites. Unfortunately, sites were also regularly down after updates! But after the first introduction to Bricksbuilder, my mind was made up. I go for Bricksbuilder. Until now no regrets. And to be clear, I too don't know much about coding. But luckily everyone can still decide for themselves what choice they make.
Well, I don't agree that there is no need for Bricks. But, no one (including myself) is saying you should change from Elementor if you're happy with it. :)
@@WPTutsthat is in the process of change. By all means if you wish to loose your work into a one day dying Elementor that offers no support, may or may not work when needed, affects load time, enforce a cost to vulnerable SME enterprise etc. I simply miss this objectively portrayed. Failing to do so is guidance into a deadend. No experience with Bricks.
@@Hebhansen sure! 8 years into Gutenberg and this is all there is to show for it. I’d say I’m safe with Bricks for a good few years yet. That’s if WordPress in its current form survives what Mullenweg is doing to it right now!
Really? That's all you got from the video? The simple fact is, there are far more similarities than differences between the 2 and yes, to get a lot of things done, you need additional plugins with Elementor. For example - ACF Repeaters (Elementor - no), dynamic conditions (Elementor - no), class first design (Elementor - no). These are just facts that you can't deny are true.
@@WPTuts Not really. I'm not sure if you understand my comment but I was trying to say that your video was kinda showing how Bricks is far superior than Elementor. I did get a lot from the video and I've used both before, but nowadays I don't see myself touching Elementor again unless a client demands for it. Great video tho!!!
@@Arisch24 ah okay. It came across that the only focus of the video was that Elementor needs 3rd party plugins to do anything - while there is some truth in that, it is more to fill gaps in the existing features. Thanks for clearing up any misunderstanding. :)
I got started with Elementor partly through watching your videos. I also got to learn about plugins like Dynamic content for elementor through you. I have invested in these tools both time and money. To watch you video after video condemning Elementor through these comparison videos is hard to watch. Better for you to create videos for Bricks or for elementor without the comparison. If you continue with the elementor condemnation or knocking, I am going to unsubscribe from your channel.
Dude! I am not knocking Elementor - if you've watched the video you'll see that the comparison is to demonstrate just how similar the workflows are in many aspects and to help dispell the myth that if you CHOOSE to transition to Bricks or to use it alongside Elementor, that you don't NEED to be a developer. If you got anything else from this video, I'm afraid that is on you and your bias that I am 'bashing' Elementor. If you choose to unsubscribe from the channel, that is entirely up to you and I wish you well in your career moving forward.
@@WPTuts I have already unsubscribed from the Bricks Facebook group where all they do is celebrate how much faster Bricks is to Elementor. Unsubscribing from your channel is next. So immature. Trying to force Bricks to become popular by associating it with Elementor and saying you want to "demonstrate just how similar the workflows." Do whatever you like. Other Elementor tutorial video makers will rise up. Enjoy your bricks. If I am an elementor user and you have stopped making any constructive elementor tutorials, why am I here?
@@francisokech because comparisons help people to see similarities and differences and help them make more informed decisions about alternative tools and methods. Other content creators are totally within their power to 'rise up' and all power to them. There are enough content creators and enough different tools and approaches to cater for all tastes, workflows and approaches. Again, if my reducing coverage of Elementor means the channel doesn't have the content you want to watch, by all means unsubscribe - I have no hard feelings towards you or your decision. I do exactly the same when a group or channel doesn't cover what I'm interested in. It is the natural growth and development as us as human beings. As I said in my previous reply - I wish you all the best in whatever journey and tools you choose to help you move forward. If that's Elementor, that's great. :)
@@WPTuts Where are the videos where you compared Elementor to the builders before it? If it wasn't necessary then, it's not necessary now. But you can do whatever you like. Bricks builder is switching to a subscription model and their lifetime price goes all the way to $600. We will see whether Elementor will sit on their hands and fail. We will see whether or not you made the right decision.
@@francisokech seriously - what is your problem here? You don't agree with my choices or the content I've used for comparison, don't watch the videos. There is no enforced viewing of any of my videos and to be honest, you're just coming across as a defensive Elementor fan boy who takes offence if anyone doesn't reinforce your buying decisions. Don't want to use Bricks or any of the other myriad of tools out there right now? No problem. Happy with your Elementor workflow - again, no problem. Don't want to entertain the notion that there are alternative tools that others enjoy using - final no problem. Don't like my opinion or my content and want to unsubscribe - like I have said very politely to each of your increasingly aggressive comments - go for it. I'm sure neither of us will be losing any sleep over this. Enjoy the rest of your day.
You did the Elementor part inside of an unencumbered lobster dev environment? What do you have against ENCUMBERED LOBSTERS, hater! They are CLEARLY better than any unencumbered lobster! 🦞
I started using Bricks just 2 days ago, coming from 3 years with Elementor. I agree that Bricks doesn't need someone to be a developer to use it.
Anyone who's building websites, if he knows basic terminology of code makes his life easier. When someone understands the inspect tool the same time will understand how messed up Elementor footprint is on the code.
I opened the today the html page of Bricks and I got shocked how clean is the code.
Overall Bricks is much better because is like you are using Elementor but coding with Visual Studio 😂, Elementor has a little better UI for amateurs.
I understand the people feeling scared and overwhelmed if they do the switch but if you have a little more time to explore bricks you will get rewarded!
Bricks is German quality 😉
But the 3rd party plug ins of Elementor are still superior.
In 3,4 years Bricks will surely fill this gap.
I personally,as an amateur,like both builders.
@@georgivasilev3867 I agree that Elementor has a great ecosystem, but when you pass the amateur level you will push yourself to stop using extra Plug-ins and try to compete a design just with Elementor and some custom CSS and JS.
When you find yourself in this path then Bricks will be there waiting for you. For now I think bricks doesn't even need extra Plug-ins to complete a nice modern Website.
@@georgivasilev3867 Oh really, it's German? I'm currently using Elementor and thinking about learning Bricks. My work flow for clients is built on Elementor but thinking about the new accessibility guidelines for 2025 makes me think about switching as Elementor seems to lack the possibility to make a 100% accessible website (even though Google tells me otherwise with 100% accessibilty score).
For me the hesitation is not about learning Bricks but to change my workflow, get another license, change my offers a little, premade template websites I offer with Elementor...
I think it's easy to get into Bricks if you know the fundamentals of webdesign. Elementor and Bricks are just tools which basically work the same.
This was a very fair comparison.
I have been using Elementor since 2017, and love it, but I also love Bricks, it has grown on me.
Cheers John - it's a shame not everyone agrees with you. lol
I got so used to building with Elementor that when I switched to Bricks, I was styling at the ID level and completely ignored the ability to apply classes.
The class system alone is worth the switch in my honest opinion. And if you’re not used to writing pure CSS, go and learn it - it will save you so much time and elevate your game tenfold.
Awesome video Paul! I'm a huge Elementor user and also an Elementor Community Leader. However, because of some limitations I've experienced in Elmentor I have moved over to Bricks. I won't be switching any of my client websites from Elementor to Bricks though. But, I have made the decision to start using Bricks for any new client projects I acquire. I'm a huge dynamic data developer using Pods for my custom field development so being able to increase my capabilities of presenting that data is a huge improvement.
Thank you for the feedback and unbiased opinion. :)
I just bought the lifetime, unlimited licenses for Bricks. As the price is going up soon.
Using Elementor but going to switch over, and won't have any more ongoing builder costs anymore :P
I was debating between Bricks and block editor, and this video was really helpful. Since I'm using the Elementor container, I think I can start Bricks without difficulty.
Wise choice my friend.
Elementor has started new era of building my dream website in the long run! It did helped me out fishing the elements a new hope! I am much satisfied cooling the fan on learning elementor and now happy using bricks after that!
I think that a lot of problems people have moving from one to the other is simply because they didn't evolve with Elementor: they just use it like with the first few versions of Elementor and don't use the newer features like global styles, flexbox, grids, etc... My designer is one of them: she has as much difficulty with the "new" Container in Elementor than with the one in Bricks: the problem is not Bricks, but new way of working... For those who evolved with it, the gap is way smaller...
Very good point. But, if we call ourselves designers or developers, we have a responsibility to learn and improve or become irrelevant in the future. :)
We have always used Elementor and have been extremely reluctant to switch. Even the last couple of days I have been up and down about switching. A client complaining about speed on their Elementor site, albeit a rather big one, led me to start looking around a bit more seriously.
Bricks' lifetime licence drew me in (double the price of last year put me off slightly! Haha) but then many saying you needed to be a developer put me off, as I, personally, class myself as a designer instead of a developer. Felt I was better where I was, with Elementor.
However, having watched this explanation, and having used Elementor flex box from experimental stages, I am now firmly pointed towards Bricks. The real kicker was Elementor's look forward to 2024 and nothing of note about serious performance gains.
The 2024 roadmap was more of a look back at 2023 than a look forward.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised if you start working with Bricks. If you're not sure about investing or just want to 'try before you buy' you can use their sandbox to get a fully working version of Bricks to test out.
@@WPTuts Ah I see, I was really scanning for what I wanted to hear! I will certainly give it a go and let you know in due course. Thanks for these videos you produce, the quality is exceptional and the information clear. I found JetEngine through yourself and it opened up the possibilities of what we could produce. Game changer.
Bricks reminds me of that strict father who demands not really much but wants the fundamental things done. Elementor is the mom who says son, I don't care how you do it, but please just get it done.
Thanks Paul, this is really good. I've been using Elementor for years, but quite some time ago I purchased the LTD of Bricks. I did start trying it out but in all honestly I felt it was overcomplicated for such "straight forward tasks" and left it, continuing with Elementor. But now I am making the switch. I do like Elementor but spending the time to delve into Bricks, I'm really liking it and excited about really getting to grips with it for future prijects.
I use both and they are both great and has some annoyances also. Currently I would stick with Elementor if client plans to edit/create pages/posts later by himself or some visually heavy templates. For speed/myself I would choose Bricks, just wish there would be more "freely" available full site or visually interesting templates.
These comparisons helped me extremely! Thanks Paul!
Nice video Paul. You have opened my eyes a bit. This video helps me seeing that the learning curve is actually not that big. But it can definitely feel overwhelming, even for me.
I also agree with you that you have more options in Bricks, but what I don’t really agree with is that you said that it’s “just as easy” as Elementor. In my eyes that’s not really true. You kind of gloss over all the little UX differences that constantly create tiny roadblocks for non-coders and therefor make it less intuitive. That’s why I meant in my video.
Here are just 2 of those differences that I spotted by looking at your video:
- Adding a hover to a button: You have to click on the arrow in the left upper corner (not clear why?) and then know that you have to click inside of the empty field that is called Pseudo classes (a developer term) and then you can select the hover. Many stumbling blocks for something that is just a simple active looking button in Elementor.
- Creating a Loop: Here you have to know that you can turn any block into a Loop, but they call it Query
Those small differences in UX are easy to spot as a UX designer (what I actually graduated in). I could go on about other small differences, but I think you get the point.
My goal is not to start a discussion with this comment, but 1: to share my perspective as a UX designer who loves tools that make things easy for us (even when that means we have sacrifice some things) and 2: to put some more light on the fact that many difference user groups interact with products in different ways. People with a more technical brain (who I call developer minded people) will have an easier time figuring out Bricks without watching many tutorials than the average Elementor user.
So that’s why I personally think Bricks will have a harder time getting to a mass adoption point. Unless they also start to think about a better UX, instead of just focussing on being the best builder they can be. Because what most people forget is that the marketing from Elementor is a massive part of the experience of the average user. And marketing cost a lot of money, and you need a lot of users for that.
And again: I am interested to put Bricks and other pagebuilders to the test if I have more time, but I just wanted to reply here since I know my latest video connects very well with the subject of this video and I know we have many shared subscribers.
Firstly, thanks for your perspective on the topic and for taking the time to reply and get involved. :)
Secondly, just for clarity, I want to say that this video is in no way a response to your video from last week. This video was actually recorded and scheduled before I even saw your video and is in response to the regular comments I see from both Elementor AND Bricks users about the need to be a developer.
I think it is always worth bearing in mind that no matter what tool you choose to learn and use that will always be a learning curve that requires a time investment. For example, when Elementor brought in the container (effectively flexbox), there was a learning curve.
When they brought in CSSGrid - there was a learning curve. So, no matter what you choose to invest your time into you will have to invest time learning the tool initial, as well as the terminology that tool chooses to employ. Now, some tools like to use their own language (take Gutenberg for example calling their content or block templates patterns instead of templates).
In the case of Bricks, they have, in many cases chosen to use industry standard terminology (as you mention about hover, active, etc.) I would argue that it is better to learn and use industry standard terminology over unique, product specific terminology that makes transitioning to other tools more time consuming as you are starting from scratch.
Finally, I want to reinterate that I am not and never have said any Elementor users SHOULD move to Bricks. The aim of this video was to simply highlight the fact that if anyone does want to explore Bricks coming from an Elementor background, that the common misconception that you need to be a developer to do so was misguided.
There are many similarities in workflow that make the learning curve (and yes, there is a learning curve) is less steep than many may believe. :)
You made a nice point, but I don't agree with some Elementor terminologies. The first time I came across loop, I had to search for what is loop in Elementor and how to use it. I discovered it serves the same purpose as query builder, which is a more industry standard name.
I'm more of a company using an industry standard name than a custom name. It will be easier for us to switch tools when they use an industry standard name. I see custom name as a wall garden to keep users locked-in.
As a UI/UX designer, understanding HTML and CSS is a key to understand the name of elements used in web design/development. I'm finding it easy to use Bricks, Breakdance, Framer and Webflow than Elementor.
@@obvinpro Yea I see you. So it comes down to the point of audience focus. Elementor makes up a new name to make things easier for beginners. But for people that already know what a query is it's confusing. I think this will stay a challenge with creating no-code tools because you are dealing with different kind of people with different kind of knowledge levels.
@@WPTuts Absolutely, I am more open to that now.
I also want to clarify that I didn't say that I was sure your video was a response to my video. It just connected well. Its just an interesting conversation that is already in the community.
Your point of about every tool has a learning curve is solid. Perhaps I am more biased because I already went through all the pain of learning Elementor, so I don't see the curve that much anymore.
I also agree that it's better to learn the industry standard terminology, but I see it more like this: development is already hard enough. Why not make it a bit easier. Not everybody wants to go that deep. Especially not many Elementor user.
I think it just comes down to product audience. There should be a product on every level of knowledge. Personally I think Elementor is still a bit struggling on what side they want to be on as a company. That makes this discussion so interesting and hard at the same time.
Let's talk later!
Thinking the main advantage of Bricks except for the Class building option is the quality of the code that it generates. I’m currently using Elementor but as a beginner find it quite difficult to spot my errors using code development tools. Very tempted to switch over.
Love both builders.
And there's nothing wrong with that. ;)
As always, very informative. Going to have 4o give Bricks a try. Also like the lifetime purchase option.
how to create slidable video galary dynamicaly adding and lighthouse effect playable in bricks builder, and pls make video grid layout
Great comparison mate. It's abundantly clear that Elementor is desperately trying to catch up with Bricks with the UI, functionality and performance.
It is kind of strange that the parent container in Elementor is set to "fullwidth" even though the setting says it's "boxed". That threw me off trying to learn it.
What is the problem?
Use both.
I like them both and use them both in my own projects.
There is nothing better than having a choice and a competition.
Yup! If they both work for you, use the best one for the given project. If only others could see that as a viable approach. :)
Great video, Paul. Every word the truth.
nice, but i've lost you at the container thing :D can i access and control and use and style the inner container inside the elementor section?
Not the way I demonstrated in the video as their actually isn't an inner container to select. It just acts like one is there. You can of course insert a second container and style that one in the same way you can with Bricks.
I've been using Elementor Pro since 2018, and while it's been a go-to tool for my projects, the constant updates and accompanying issues have become a significant concern. Watching this video, I'm now less anxious about the whole 'developer' thing and more excited to learn how Bricks might offer a more stable and efficient workflow. Appreciate the insights!
ChatGPT and AI tools are breaking down the knowledge barriers required to understand and learn CSS as well making it easier to adapt. These tools are going to be game changers in the future
mmmm no
Definitely,yes.
Just wait and see.
But there is nothing to worry about.
The world is developing.
That's only partly true. AI can't properly help you if you're not smart enough to write a good prompt or ask the right question.
I really appreciate what you are doing with this video. The other day I saw a video from another youtuber explaining why he was sticking with elementor, basically saying that he was confortable with it, and giving the message that it was ok to not wanting to grow, to improve. This person has a responsability not only with his audience, but also the industry, he is influencing people. I don't care what tool people use, but the fact that the reasons he was giving were those, it just blew my mind, and I think is even unethical from him to say certain things.
I know which video, i believe everyone who watches wordpress videos would know. What he said was that his agency is so familiar with elementor that making the change would affect his entire workflow. Which is understandable. He also mentioned that he has ties with the elementor team so there is that to consider. I believe he did say he was interested in giving the other builders a try when he finds the time. These are his reasons not to transition. I dont think growing means switching over to whats new, it means becoming better than you were yesterday at whatever you are doing. Just one guy's opinion.
I am assuming you guys are talking about my video since this is exactly what I talked about and I haven't seen any other video talking about this. So I do want to say a few more things, especially responding to Tiago.
Thank you @alvaroespejo7115 for explaining what I meant. I do want to expand on a few things said here.
1. I do have ties with the Elementor team, but I can assure you that I am always putting my audience first.
2. Tiago is saying that I am sharing a message that it is oke to not grow and improve. Which couldn't be further from the truth. How can you say this when I am sharing videos for many years for free, for people to grow and improve. And now there is one moment where I don't jump on the next best thing, and now I am getting this label? A bit weird.
3. I am actually protecting my audience from constantly being disconnected from actually running their business. Many channels focus on many different tools, which in my eyes sometimes does more harm than help. Because many beginners already feel lost enough. So I do take my responsibility very serious, but I just have a different teaching message. Which is totally fine. I actually enjoy watching all the research that Paul does, but that doesn't mean I always agree with the message.
@@rinodeboer 👍🏻
@@rinodeboer I think some clarity is needed on point 3 - audience demographic. As you say, beginners can certainly become overwhelmed when options are presented. However, the majority of my audience are not beginners and appreciate the diversity.
There is nothing wrong with either approach - but if you target beginners, there are different things to consider over those more experienced in the field.
This is some honest and fantastic review. Thanks
Bricks appears to outperform Elementor in speed and efficiency, despite the similarities between the two.
What contributes to Bricks' faster performance?
Cleaner code is the primary reason.
@@WPTutsI think cleaner DOM is one factor but I think the scripts they use are more lightweight.
@@KOBE42__ you could well be right. I don't think it's a single thing, it's a combination of factors that makes Bricks more performant. :)
For example, if you place a simple heading on the page, Elementor needs to use four containers for nesting. These dependencies are not easy to discover and it's difficult to safely disable them.
Just open a similar page in dev tools and you'll see.
1. I think that even if I tried my hardest, there's no way I could reach Elementor's code bloating!
2. Elementor is very opinionated, so much so that if you want to change the appearance of an element with custom css, you'll probably need to give it another class (in addition to the 15 it already has), and quite likely have to use !important (or creatively figure a way to overcome the specificity of their selectors).
3. For some reason, they seem to have an obsession with js, and they add js to EVERYTHING! All the links have js on them. All links...
Since Bricks allows you to make your on decision instead of determining everything for you, and since you have full control on the classes, it doesn't cause that bloating.
But of course it comes with a price of being a little more complex on the ux.
Using bricks with yellow pencil or hero css will be very helpful for people who are not familiar with css. If bricks is a plug-in, using it with a mature theme may make it more acceptable. People will be able to switch from Elementor to Bricks easily, just by switching from one builder to another, and without having to choose from some particularly great theme or a naked theme that needs to be built from scratch.
Bricks is actually a theme - so, no other theme is required.
I prefer it to be a plugin rather than a theme, as this would allow me to use it seamlessly with Blocksy.
they are not frameworks...
Now catching this one, Paul. Great vid. How does Bricks integrate with Crocoblock? For me that is the big question. If I can build complex listing sites with Bricks, I'm definitely switching.
Crocoblock supports Bricks, well, the five main tools like JetEngine, filters, search, forms, etc.
I still need to see if there are any shortcomings myself, but Crocoblock have a dedicated page outlining their support for Bricks.
@@WPTuts brilliant. Thanks, pal!
Elementor may be the easiest builder to get started with, but many times, Elementor is abandoned because its code is too bloated and its poor performance on mobile.
Choosing bricks is probably for the opposite reason.
But even bricks are not as fast as blocks-based pages. For non-professional, an excellent theme is so important. In most cases, we just use builders to build code-free content based on the theme to achieve the desired results. This is the norm. Obviously, bricks exist in the form of themes, which severely limits its development. It would be nice if it was a plugin, or an absolutely brilliant theme like blocksy or astra.
9:50 This could even be sampled in a rap song
I'm actually interested if there are people switching from bricks to elementor at all - if you already started getting used to it, I don't see a point of siwtching - and the pricing doensn't speak for elementor either
I'm sure there are some people switching in that direction - I've not read anything specific, but I can imagine that Bricks isn't for everyone.
The "css selector" is under "planned" on their roadmap. They demonstrated an alpha version last year, but they needed more time to polish it before first release. So, it's coming, probably before summer.
Let's hope they do introduce the ability to have a class first design ethos - but, before summer in a fully tested and non experimental state is, IMHO, unrelasitic when it took almost 18 months to get the Container element out of alpha and beta.
@@WPTuts yes, that is true. It's probably in beta all year 😉 but again, I'm an optimistic person.
@@vegardbell after watching yesterdays roadmap for Elementor in 2024 there was no mention of this (or pretty much anything of interest). So, I'm not holding out much hope that we'll see this anytime soon.
@@WPTuts hopefully in autumn 2024 or something 😉
@@vegardbell I'd be surprised. lol Maybe Summer 2026. ;)
I'm contemplating switching from Breakdance to Bricks because it's been well over 4 months now and Breakdance has not release any updates or fixes since. They have terrible support and their response times are terrible. Paying a one time fee of $600 per year for a product that gets regular updates and fixes, I'm all for it. Elementor is bloated af and their fancy AI feature is not worth it enough to keep using it. Also I'm not a big fan of subscription models.
Exact same decision for me as well. Breakdance has posted a bunch of videos this week on YT so I think they are preparing for 2.0 but I just don't really trust them that much.
@WPTuts, from the comments, I now see why they kept regarding you as an anti-fan on Imran's Live Chat today 😅
Yeah, it's kinda silly eh? lol
I'd like to try Bricks, but I refuse to pay for it, because I can do everything that Bricks does, using CSS. Although it would save me time.
Do you build your own Wordpress themes?
so you have elementor? or you use headless?
How much is your time worth?
@@KOBE42__ I'm very much a beginner with WordPress, but I'm using the 2024 block theme and customizing it.
@@hahahap9844 The plugins I use are Create Block Theme, Site Origin CSS, Gutenverse blocks, and WP Front to Top.
Hey Paul. I have carefully watched your video several times and can come to 3 important conclusions as follows:
1. You are definitely the biggest Antifan of Elementor, and I'm quite curious to ask you about the real reason you hate Elementor so much, have you had some trouble with their leader, right?
2. In many of your previous videos and especially this one. You're trying to prove to your audience that Bricks is smarter and more efficient than Elementor. But in fact, through this video, you have proven to the world that Elementor is really great and much smarter than Bricks. Many users will have the same perspective as me. So let's compare the books specifically:
- Bricks is very basic and the interface is only focused on developers with programming knowledge. Even though you tried to introduce it in a friendly way, it's clear that Bricks' leaders completely ignored the features. Its friendly
- While Elementor is much friendlier and smarter, it meets both normal users and developers. Both of these objects can be satisfied with Elementor. Don't say that developers mostly hate Elementor, because I've heard a lot of them say Elmenetor is where they save the most time.
3. If I look to the future, which tools should I bet on as a customer? While Bricks is really focused on developers, Elmenetor meets most of the needs of both novices and experts. And one thing is for sure, Elementor is not stupid and cannot do the existing Bricks features, they simply designed it in the most user-friendly way and completely eliminated situations and features. The waste is not too necessary for most users.
4. The last thing I want to remind you of. Elementor is capturing a huge market share and providing services to a huge number of customers. So being criticized by many Antifans like you is a common thing for big companies, but that cannot cover up one thing, they are still the tool that best meets the needs of current users.
I can assure you that, if Bricks currently had a large market share and customers like elementor, they would face twice as many complaints and criticism as compared to Elementor currently. And with Bricks' strategy and tool design showing that it only focuses on developers, it is impossible for them to gain a majority market share in the market, because the largest market is ordinary people, with knowledge of the market. Average level of design knowledge. This is Bricks' fatal weakness
5. As a customer, where should I put my trust? A tool that is meeting most of the market needs and has the potential to become more complete and intelligent in the future. Or a conservative tool that only focuses on a specialized audience and is unlikely to have many major breakthroughs in the future like Bricks?
6. And there is one important thing I need to remind you. Maybe you're thinking that most customers are stupid when using elementor???? Don't make such a big mistake! We are the customers and will use whatever tool best serves our business goals. Instead of having to find a tool and have to spend hours learning how to use it. Elementor may not reveal all the capabilities like bricks, but it navigates extremely well so customers can create top-notch and wonderful websites, even speed as many people often complain is not a problem. too big when it can be easily fixed. While Bricks requires customers to learn and learn about tools for a long time, the important thing is that the products that can be created from tools like Bricks mostly look extremely stupid and ugly?
7. You're trying to say that Bricks' workflow is smart and can create great products and is more intelligent and flexible than Elementor. I think you are seriously wrong on this point and in fact the exact opposite is true. And of course you are an Antifan so that only makes sense for you, not the majority of customers like us
Bricks can't even compare to webflow with the features and professionalism you are advertising for Bricks. But certainly the future of Bricks will be no different from Webflow, although very professional but not welcomed by the entire market.
WOW! That is one hell of a lot of assumptions!
Fisrtly and most importantly, I am NOT an 'Antifan' of Elementor. How you got that from this video is completely beyond me. Nowhere did I bash Elementor or say it was a bad product. In fact, I don't believe I mentioned anything about speed, etc.
The whole point of this video was to demonstrate to anyone who hears the comments about needing to be a developer to use Bricks is that it is not true. Sure, understanding CSS, HTML and Javascript can absolutely benefit you. But, that is also true of Elementor - the more you know the more you can get out of these tools.
Secondly, nowhere have I said that people who use Elementor (or other tools) are stupid. Please don't misquote me or put words in my mouth that I have never said. That is completely disingenuous and totally undermines any argument you may try to present.
Now, let's clear up some of the other comments or points you tried to raise in your reply.
1. I am no 'antifan' of Elementor - if I was, why would I still create content on Elementor? And no, I have no trouble with their leader. In fact, I know very little about the management team behind the product.
2. If you think that working with Elementor is more efficient than a class first tool, then you are 100% missing the point of how much time and effort that can save during design and development. I'd also love to hear what areas you feel Elementor is smarter or more efficient in - genuinely interested.
3. Bricks does NOT concentrate on developers - you have totally missed the point there. This is exactly why I showed the many similarities in workflow between the tools. My point being, if you can use Elementor, you can use Bricks.
4. Great for Elementor - there is nothing at all wrong with them going after major market share and they are doing a great job right now. That doesn't mean it is the best product out there, just the best at marketing and promotion.
5. You can place your trust in whatever brand you feel is right for you. I have no concern for your purchasing decisions or validating what you spend your money on. I've paid for Elementor since Pro was released and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. However, I listen to the community, speak to developers and have a pretty good feel for the overall landscape and you can't ignore the fact that Elementor have made some serious fubars with their pricing plans, feature stripping, removing license levels, etc. Agree or disagree, those are facts.
6. Nowhere have I said or insinuated Elementor customers are stupid or anything else derogatory. However, your analogy of having to learn other tools makes no sense when you literally had to do just that with Elementor when you first started using it. If you don't want to swap tools or spend time learning new skills - no problem at all. Again, I am not suggesting you or anyone else has to.
But, if you want to keep on top of web design and the skills surrounding it, you should be learning every day, regardless of whether that entails new software, design skills, etc.
Now, you say that Bricks websites look ugly - how out of touch with reality are you? It uses the exact same tool set that pretty much all other web design tools do. CSS Grid, Flexbox, etc. This is the same as Elementor. That really is a stupid point you're trying to make there.
7. Like it or not, a class first design process is far more productive than a non-class first process. That is just a fact and whether you agree or disagree, doesn't change reality.
I'll wrap up this reply by saying that while you seem to categorise me as an Elementor 'Antifan' your comments just go to prove that you are an Elementor fanboy/girl and simply don't want anyone to detract from your view of it being the 'best' tool out there for web design. Like Bricks, Breakdance or any of the other myriad of WordPress builders, they are all just tools.
This whole stupid tribalism is a complete waste of time and does nothing to further the WordPress community at large.
If anything, I think you’re (very much so) trying to “defend” Elementor. I switched from Elementor to Bricks a long time ago and still love it. Not only the pricing, but also the possibilities (that are just now finding their way to Elementor). Of course, Bricks is not for everyone, but the same pretty much applies to Elementor. If only they had spent more of their budget to developments instead of advertising…
did elementor pay you for this?
Hey mailnetwork1150, But no idea who you really are? Employee of Elementor? Otherwise I sincerely don't understand your reaction. But if you calmly watch the video again without prejudice, you will come to the conclusion that Paul is not an Antifan of Elementor. He is trying to compare issues as fairly as possible.
A large market share does not mean you have the best product. But probably the most resources to promote your product.
And don't forget a good DOM structure, which is far from the case with Elementor. Yet structure is essential to the effectiveness and performance of a website.
I worked with Elementor from the beginning and built quite a lot of websites. Unfortunately, sites were also regularly down after updates! But after the first introduction to Bricksbuilder, my mind was made up. I go for Bricksbuilder. Until now no regrets. And to be clear, I too don't know much about coding.
But luckily everyone can still decide for themselves what choice they make.
Just curious, did you watch the video at all?
"Loops within Loops" link
Better Post Loops in Bricks - Nested Post Loops
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There is no need for Bricks. Why should I change to that? All what I want to do I can easly do with Elementor.
Well, I don't agree that there is no need for Bricks. But, no one (including myself) is saying you should change from Elementor if you're happy with it. :)
@@WPTuts Yes, Iam happy with Elementor. And that is the reason I work every day with it :-)
@@WBMaier awesome. And that’s why you should continue using it. 👍
FSE
Sure! If you want a basic, sub par experience with so many important missing features. 🤷🏼♂️
@@WPTutsthat is in the process of change. By all means if you wish to loose your work into a one day dying Elementor that offers no support, may or may not work when needed, affects load time, enforce a cost to vulnerable SME enterprise etc. I simply miss this objectively portrayed. Failing to do so is guidance into a deadend.
No experience with Bricks.
@@Hebhansen sure! 8 years into Gutenberg and this is all there is to show for it. I’d say I’m safe with Bricks for a good few years yet.
That’s if WordPress in its current form survives what Mullenweg is doing to it right now!
This video is to show that Elementor is nothing without 3rd party tools when compared to a builder like Bricks🤣
Really? That's all you got from the video?
The simple fact is, there are far more similarities than differences between the 2 and yes, to get a lot of things done, you need additional plugins with Elementor.
For example - ACF Repeaters (Elementor - no), dynamic conditions (Elementor - no), class first design (Elementor - no).
These are just facts that you can't deny are true.
@@WPTuts Not really. I'm not sure if you understand my comment but I was trying to say that your video was kinda showing how Bricks is far superior than Elementor. I did get a lot from the video and I've used both before, but nowadays I don't see myself touching Elementor again unless a client demands for it. Great video tho!!!
@@Arisch24 ah okay. It came across that the only focus of the video was that Elementor needs 3rd party plugins to do anything - while there is some truth in that, it is more to fill gaps in the existing features.
Thanks for clearing up any misunderstanding. :)
I got started with Elementor partly through watching your videos. I also got to learn about plugins like Dynamic content for elementor through you. I have invested in these tools both time and money. To watch you video after video condemning Elementor through these comparison videos is hard to watch. Better for you to create videos for Bricks or for elementor without the comparison. If you continue with the elementor condemnation or knocking, I am going to unsubscribe from your channel.
Dude! I am not knocking Elementor - if you've watched the video you'll see that the comparison is to demonstrate just how similar the workflows are in many aspects and to help dispell the myth that if you CHOOSE to transition to Bricks or to use it alongside Elementor, that you don't NEED to be a developer.
If you got anything else from this video, I'm afraid that is on you and your bias that I am 'bashing' Elementor.
If you choose to unsubscribe from the channel, that is entirely up to you and I wish you well in your career moving forward.
@@WPTuts I have already unsubscribed from the Bricks Facebook group where all they do is celebrate how much faster Bricks is to Elementor. Unsubscribing from your channel is next. So immature. Trying to force Bricks to become popular by associating it with Elementor and saying you want to "demonstrate just how similar the workflows." Do whatever you like. Other Elementor tutorial video makers will rise up. Enjoy your bricks. If I am an elementor user and you have stopped making any constructive elementor tutorials, why am I here?
@@francisokech because comparisons help people to see similarities and differences and help them make more informed decisions about alternative tools and methods.
Other content creators are totally within their power to 'rise up' and all power to them. There are enough content creators and enough different tools and approaches to cater for all tastes, workflows and approaches.
Again, if my reducing coverage of Elementor means the channel doesn't have the content you want to watch, by all means unsubscribe - I have no hard feelings towards you or your decision. I do exactly the same when a group or channel doesn't cover what I'm interested in. It is the natural growth and development as us as human beings.
As I said in my previous reply - I wish you all the best in whatever journey and tools you choose to help you move forward. If that's Elementor, that's great. :)
@@WPTuts Where are the videos where you compared Elementor to the builders before it? If it wasn't necessary then, it's not necessary now. But you can do whatever you like. Bricks builder is switching to a subscription model and their lifetime price goes all the way to $600. We will see whether Elementor will sit on their hands and fail. We will see whether or not you made the right decision.
@@francisokech seriously - what is your problem here?
You don't agree with my choices or the content I've used for comparison, don't watch the videos. There is no enforced viewing of any of my videos and to be honest, you're just coming across as a defensive Elementor fan boy who takes offence if anyone doesn't reinforce your buying decisions.
Don't want to use Bricks or any of the other myriad of tools out there right now? No problem.
Happy with your Elementor workflow - again, no problem.
Don't want to entertain the notion that there are alternative tools that others enjoy using - final no problem.
Don't like my opinion or my content and want to unsubscribe - like I have said very politely to each of your increasingly aggressive comments - go for it. I'm sure neither of us will be losing any sleep over this.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
You did the Elementor part inside of an unencumbered lobster dev environment? What do you have against ENCUMBERED LOBSTERS, hater! They are CLEARLY better than any unencumbered lobster! 🦞
All lobsters are sacred - their state of encumbrance need not be taken into account! 🤣