Suella Braverman and Yvette Cooper face-off in INTENSE debate over Illegal Migration Bill
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The whole small boats thing feels like it came out of nowhere. It feels like a distraction from the fact that for people like me, our electricity bill is now more than our mortgages and the cost of basic goods like milk and eggs are increasing at a disturbing rate.
You my friend are spot on. Bringing this topic front and centre is an easy way to distract the general public about the complete economic shit show that's taking place in the UK that's hurting the everyday person.
It's been going in for 3 years. Where have you been.
@@inghell but the Left are keeping it in the headlines.
Spot on. Nailed it 👏
It hasn't come out of nowhere. It's been happening for years and the mainstream media didn't report it.
Classic signs of fascism right here
What will you say when I inform you immigration figures have been far higher under the tories than under labour
@@VPhantom-rf3qo You are correct - most of it being illegal! Get your facts right!
@@keithparker2206 what an idiotic word is “illegal immigration” please lecture yourself on when this stupidity of wording was born 👍 you may learn something
@@keithparker2206 wrong, 1 million legal last year. Conservatives love mass immigration as its cheap labour and future consumers for capitalism. Immigration is international finance capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration.
Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
“I do not fight fascists because I will win. I fight fascists because they are fascists.”
― Chris Hedges, Wages of Rebellion: The Moral Imperative of Revolt
"Stopping the boats is my top priority" so, not dealing with actual crime on the streets or that which has been exposed amongst the police force. Says it all.
Sunak the Nazi condemning asylum seekers under 40 to death in his death camps in the UK!
Or getting peoples bills down, or getting them a decent working wage etc
"It was not desirable that the proles should have strong political feelings. All that was required of them was a primitive patriotism which could be appealed to whenever it was necessary to make them accept longer working hours or shorter rations". - George Orwell.
Bit like the SNP then !
Why are you quoting a fake writer of science fiction? Eric Arthur Blair - was the novelist who's pen name was Orwell, that should tell you everything you need to know, it would be like George Lucas claiming that the death star is a real star base.
@@neilp3773 wait what's the problem with quoting Blair's pseudonym? I mean he wrote the book under the pseudonym, so how does that impact the quote?
@@Nameless.Hermit A work of fiction, this debate is based on facts of a nation, not the ramblings of a science fiction novelist.
@Neil P the words hold meaning regardless.
13 years ago, this government started with what the UN called "a human rights catastrophe" against disabled people, a catastrophe which continues via the administration of the welfare system. What will the UN call this governments treatment of asylum seekers?
The tories outsourced the agencies and used 40 million to prevent people getting disability. They are paid more to refuse a claim. Coffey sat on 5 reports of the hundreds of people who have dies or killed themselves going through the dwp process. To me that's genocide via stealth
@@bereal6590 yup. Sooner or later they're going to have to answer for it. They have blood on their hands, and lots of it.
I second that
@@michaelfourie345 I checked today - the death count is 330,000 and rising.
When all the tories do is talk about Labour rather than how their policy will work
She's been saying how it will work. You're ignoring what you want to ignore.
@@AK-ru3sg firstly no she didn't the fact you had to be so vague is evidence enough
Secondly go on how will it reduce numbers, Australia already proved deterrent does not work, because it's people escaping d eath, they are unlikely to know the rules because you know war etc. That's why the tories barely mention it. This policy makes the problem worse as Trafficking victims cannot go after the trafficker as the victim will be criminalised. Meaning Gangs will have an easier time getting away with this.
Oh look there's Lineker!
@@duncancurtis5971 oh look a gammon
It's Labour that always having a go at the tories,and Labour have no answers on anything
I would like to know where the evidence that the British public back this bill 2 - 1 is,
You can lie with impunity under parliamentary protection
I thought it would be greater than 2-1
@@pboo2607 Go away. And never come back. Pmfsl.
It's all made up the poll. Just to pacify the public. Total rubbish.
@@pboo2607 Because the UK is full of racists bigots
Suella makes Priti look compassionate
My God and that saying something!
The great line by Conservative is “it’s what the British people want” 😂😂😂😂😂
she's right it is what we want....
@@manchesterutdfan66 you have asked every single person in the UK have you?
@@michaelfourie345 We dont vote law makers did that and the vote was nomore migrants, Im just hearing breaking news right now Suella starts the ban today.. at last we have a home secretary with balls...
Says this with an unelected government. They should really be barred from the term they're literally unelected their manifesto is unelected. They could've literally made a manifesto to made Britain a dictatorship and even the lord's don't have a leg to stand against it. Backwards ass country.
@@manchesterutdfan66 and you must be albanian! 🤣
Will she explain why her parents chose to fly over ‘safe countries’ to get to the uk, when they left Kenya and Mauritius as economic migrants
That's a brilliant one 👏👏✌
That's a brilliant one 👏👏✌
Her mother was a nurse who worked for the NHS for many years. Many of these migrants are just violent scumbags that have no right to live here.
Because her parents flew and the UK invited them. Don't be intentionally obtuse.
She isn't a Albanian on a illegal boat coming from the safety of France.
Braverman is a vile human being.
@@peterstone2332 Also if your not
@@peterstone2332 couldn’t agree more as long as genuine asylum seekers are not restricted in any way
I agree tho chinless wonder is a horror of a human being
Stop the boats, stop all illegal ways of entering the country, while at the same time, closing all the legal routes, even to our allies.
Now, I wonder why small boat crossings are up, and why they are housed in red wall constituencies?
Logic isn't a Tory strong point
@@alexanderstefanov6474 Remind me…. What is?
@@Dreadwyn Labour
Allies more like pisstakers 🤷🏻♂️
We do not want more people entering the country because our culture is eroding. The fact that London is widely described as a foreign city says it all
They could have stopped them any time they wanted. They didn't want to. There's a reason they're focusing on it now.
How could they have stopped them? Was just wondering...
I thought her 'top priority' was to watch people being flown to Rwanda while crying with joy??!
No, that was her dream.
Braverman is just the tip of an evil tory iceberg.
@Dog boy 👏....do you need help to dress yourself?
What the British People NOW know...is that the Tories ARE REPULSIVE in every way, every day!!🥺
"The public is neither bigotted or stupid." Pure projection on the part of Cruella Blabbermouth.
Unfortunately to a certain extent, they are both.
I'm half-Romanian half-British, and have both citizenships. I am looked at as a Brit by the Romanians and a Romanian by the Brits. I have to say, "the public is neither bigoted or stupid" sounds very funny to me when I think about how I'm treated in the UK compared to Romania. I'm very glad I got out of the UK, and have absolutely no intention of going back.
@@barbariandude The whole British empire was built on bigotry and exploitation. Most of the wealth they have in the country was basically stolen from other countries. In the history of the world their is no nation that has caused more death and hardship than the British empire. Scholars estimated that India suffered 165 million excess deaths due to British colonialism between 1880 and 1920. “This figure is larger than the combined number of deaths from both World Wars, including the Nazi holocaust,” they noted
To be honest I think we should stop the boats.
We've got to treat them with compassion and empathy, and respect their humanity, sure. Make sure they end up somewhere safe.
But it costs so much to house them. And if they're here illegally then they can't pay tax.
We've been in a housing crisis for a VERY long time, and it's only gotten worse with the Tories in power because they won't build new affordable housing.
BUT, think about it in terms of supply and demand. More people coming in, more demand for housing.
We don't really have enough housing for the people who are already here, which is why it's so expensive. And it's not fair that they're such a priority when it comes to getting a council house in comparison to all the people already here who've already been waiting for so long.
And listen right, a lot of these people are the kindest most friendly people you will ever meet, but among illegal migrants there is also a higher proportion of crime relative to the general population.
I don't like the Tories or Suella, but if I was a Labour politician I would definitely push that we do something about illegal migration rather than nothing.
Just letting them all in is an INCREDIBLY stupid idea. "nono, see look at us, we're not racist, all of you come in. Land is land isn't it?" as if it just doesn't cause any problems. There is also that culture shock right? If there's less of them coming in, it will reduce that culture shock for the people already here, and it'll be a much easier load to deal with when it comes to helping the ones that do come in to settle in, and when they're settled in then you get much less crime and gang activity. And they'll be in legal employment, much less likely to get sucked into modern slavery, prostitution, and other forms of work where they'll be exploited.
I'm not advocating for the approach the Tories are using, but it's really not an issue we should ignore. A lot of people care about it, there are a lot of genuine problems both for locals and those coming in, and that doesn't mean those British people that care about it are racist.
Is it really so bad to say that we should stop letting so many illegals in, the ones we do let in we make sure they're on the system and paying tax, given some help to settle in but regardless are on equal footing to everyone else, and build up our infrastructure so the country can actually be equipped to handle this unprecedented rising population?
Like at the same time as we need more nurses, we also have a VERY important duty to make sure that our already direly struggling NHS and our other public infrastructure can handle the volume of people it's dealing with
@@L8Pl There's a very simple fact that you're missing: the UK is in this mess because they completely defunded the asylum application system. Properly vetting and assessing each applicant would result in far fewer people being stuck in limbo, costing the government lots of money. That would also result in helping real asylum seekers, and deporting economic migrants trying to abuse the system, because that's what an asylum application system is for.
Also, I really really don't like to fall victim to godwin's law here, but I hope the fact that "land is land" and "living space" arguments are dangerously close to "lebensraum" is an accident.
I'm willing to put good money on the fact that a ton of right-wing Trolls will jump on this comments section, but none of them will be able to explain why the tories Bill is unworkable and illegal, nor will they be able to explain why small boats weren't a problem before the tories took power 13 years ago...
Because you could actually claim asylum then
Most of them couldn't explain 2+2 let alone anything political
Most are trolls or haters only a few are tories
Suella Bravermans weird rhetoric is that "Brown people can be fascists too".
@@letsgobrandon614 common sense is not Common but fascism is as common stupidity.
@lets go brandon "common" indeed. Dullards have never been in short supply in this country. It's all too common to find you phucks embedded in every industry and institution. Why don't you dorks just hop on a boat and find somewhere else?
@@letsgobrandon614 me when I throat fascist propaganda😎
By my measure she's not British.
Yes the gammonaty is so hateful probably because she has to look at her own face every day on the mirror
cruella thinks she has a plan 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Or a brain.
She has a plan to cause yet more division She is a very dangerous woman.
Yes she's planning to go to hell when one day she dies
I bet her plan is: Drink more red wine, I can still see the boats.
Wait a minute I RECOGNISE THIS RETORIC FROM SOMEWHERE, all the unwanted are to be sent to Madagascar right?
@Dog boy Nope this is all Suella and her pals.
Notice how she never actually said which poll?
Probably an online poll on the daily mail website
It's all about having the British people arguing with each other. Taking the heat of the Tories who caused it. What a complete mess they have made of everything,
You want more illegal immigrants
started with labour
@@tf2368 You are nothing.
I'd rather be a leftie than a fascist
I don't know its a tough one. Probably leaning on the fascist side given the state of the country
Feels good.
Me too
Any decent human being would
Probably the most juvenile comment made on TH-cam. People like you destroyed the Left.
Braverman is just continuing to prove Lineker right. "Illegal migration makes us all less safe" (and what does she mean by 'illegal migration' when the boats are seemingly the only way to claim asylum in the UK for a lot of nationalities?).
We've taken in hundreds of thousands of Ukranians, Hong Kong, Afghans. They have had safe and legal routes
@@VPhantom-rf3qo And, those routes no longer exist. When they were closed the number of small boats rocketed. Tory policies created the small boat problem. Their lack of coherent processing have meant that very few 'fake' asylum seekers have been returned.
Their whole process in tatters.
@@kevinu.k.7042 Those routes are closed because we have taken in enough. Perhaps there should be a policy implemented that allows people like you to adopt "refugees"
refugees different from economic migration which takes a refugee's legal place
@@VPhantom-rf3qo only a few thousand afghans, but about a 100,000 ukrainians. Call me crazy, but it's like the government turned a blind eye to all the other crises in the world and only accepted asylum seekers and refugees from places they thought were politically favourable enough
Her rhetoric against the "boat people" mirrors the language used against the "Windrush migrants" by Tory politicians until they realised that people weren't buying into their lies.
It's also the same rhetoric they used with Jews during a certain 1933 event 😉 remember Churchill initially didn't hate Hitler for his views on Jews he hated him because of the threat he posed to Europe.
@@dogboy5398 In the case of the Windrush families, all of them. They were given promises when we desperately needed them to come here and settle.
Imagine being called out for your language by not only Jewish groups, but an actual living breathing holocaust survivor, and deciding to double down 🙃 suella's argument seems to be basically "those crafty refugees with their internationally protected rights, why should we have to kowtow to silly little things like international obligations?"
Thank you, thank you & thrice thank you. I wish Joan Salter (holocaust survivor) had been able to state her opinions on last week’s Question Time. She is more than capable to take on anyone who says Gary Lineker doesn’t know what he’s on about. He was paraphrasing her for God’s sake. Keep spreading the word about that remarkable and articulate lady. Bravo!
Yes that would appear to be the Tory mindset, they don’t want anything or anyone to stand in their way. They want total control but don’t seem suitably equipped to take it as yet. I saw the video of Joan Salter questioning SB’s choice of language. The response she received was then given a round of applause, disgusting! So SB is convincing the same sort of people as those who wouldn’t have wanted her parents to immigrate here in the sixties.
The Jewish people constructed this mass migration lol hence the kalergi awardto Angela Merkal, read a Torah and find the truth, also did you know the Jews killed over 10million Christian’s in holodomir leading to hitler rising up ? No…didn’t think so !
@Dog boy I'll take them over you 🙄
@Dog boy projection much
74% single males... I wonder if the danger of crossing in small boats dissuades some of those with children. Perhaps the UK should provide a safer mechanism to claim asylum. On a related note, I suspect these men would be only too happy to be given paying work on our farms who are desperate for workers. I bet they would regard a bit of hard graft as a very reasonable part of building a new life in a safe country.
As for the rest of Braverman's speech, pure vitriol.
@@peterstone2332 Why don't people get it? Migrants are not the problem! Actually, it pretty clear that the UK needs migrants to do the jobs that UK people either don't want to do or we don't have enough skilled people to do. The real issue is a government steeped in nepotism that has normalized lying and is busy ruining out reputation and burning bridges with other countries.
"only too happy to be given paying work on our farms"
You're joking, these are mostly young Albanian males whose aim is to get into the drug industry where they can make good money not on some farm working hard for a pittance.
Statistics to prove your point please
@@lewisjardine3624 Oh don't you know. He is using the infallible source of trust me bro.
@@pboo2607 Source, evidence, data? Oh you don't have any?
How does the polls show 2 to 1 in favour of this bill, did they just target Brexit boroughs?
The wording n the poll was very disingenuous.
Daily Mail readers, probably.
Two thirds of people must consider all the facts then. France is a safe country. Illegal is illegal. We're failing genuine asylum seekers because of all the extra people.
Sounds right to me. We're full to all except genuine refugees. We're more than fed up with being gaslit.
They bang on about terrible circumstances but skirt around the fact that three quarters are single men. They should be ashamed for abandoning their women and children.
Then there's the grooming gangs.
Enough is enough.
@@AK-ru3sg "Illegal is illegal" - Absolutely meaningless. Imagine if a prosecutor stood up in court and said this 😂
Thank you Yvette
One question I would love to ask Braverman, how does she know the British public back this bill?
Because the mobs outside the hotels, where the migrants are, wrap themselves in the Union Jack.
@@ethelmini ok whatever.
@@clairefrier2353 They are the "British People" she's speaking to. It wouldn't serve them, or her, to question their validity.
If you're not one of them you can be discounted as woke.
I want them to deal with this but our struggles cost of liveing aswell
The Tories always act like they can read our mind and that us the British people always agree with what they are doing.
If they could actually read our minds, then they would stop acting like some chaotic opposition party.
Asking a Government what their plans are, is the job of Labour, not the current sitting government.
Why do they say 'boats' because saying 'people' would stir empathy. That's not good.
Stop the bloody boats would sound much better in my opinion!!
Wish we could go back in time and stop her parents from ever being allowed to give birth to Sullea on British soil !
You want to put restrictions on legal immigrants now do you?
you are a fool
Doesn't Cruella know it's rude to point
Pure evil
You are a big fan of uncontrolled illegal immigration
She would have been such a great addition to germanys government in 1933. Only obstacle, she's a women of color. But obviously, fascism isn't racist, is it ?
She says there's safe and legal routes but when asked she couldn't answer what that safe and legal route was if not available to them.
I freakin love Yvette. Get her in front of Kier Starmer
So the French have to sort out our problem?
We have been less safe since her family arrived here in the UK
The Rwanda Plan 2023 / Madagascar Plan 1938
2nd boar war 1899 😉
I can’t pay my rent, afford heating, and I’m skipping meals because of food inflation FOR GODS SAKE !
And you think more people coming to the UK will make that problem better, or worse?!
@@Madonnalitta1 If you understand economics, better. We have a labor shortage, which is reducing revenue in many industry sectors and putting them under mass strain.
If we have more workers, we have more tax revenue which in turn can be used to alleviate the cost of living crisis. and contrary to what the right like to spout about benefit scroungers, a lot of these migrants are wanting to work.
@@Madonnalitta1 I don't think thats what they're saying. So many vulnerable poor sick in the uk who can't get help or treatment and sick of a government who aren't sorting actual problems. Instead they're scapegoating boat ppl which is just a con to cover tory failures but it still means many many many are suffering and in fact dying on nhs wait lists
@@whitesuave Get the bums back to work then, loads and loads of them claiming.
@@SilverbackMatt by bums do you mean homeless people? cos 271,000 people are recorded as homeless in the UK, under half of which are children, and there are currently 1,134,000 job vacancies as of Jan of this year.
If we're talking about people of working age currently not employed then the number is around 2.5 million, but that number includes people with disabilities or prolonged illnesses and and diagnosis like cancer.
However you split it, we still need an increase in able-bodied workers.
Every time she opens her mouth more hate and lies fly out HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE
I know, Yvette is full of crap!
Yvette Cooper rag-dolling Braverman as per usual. It's too easy...
Tory Fascism is alive and well.
@@dogboy5398 no thanks, I dont take homework assignments from strangers on the Internet.
Least of all those who need the signs of fascism explained to them after watching it play house in number 10 for at least six years.
Have a lovely day.
@@dogboy5398 ah just as I suspected. You're a tory fascism supporter.
And they are not securing our boarders, they're breaking international law and attempting to engage in human trafficking whilst taking away our human rights as a nation.
Just go read the 10 signs of rising fascism and the tories have ticked all but two of the ten points.
Have a lovely day.
Wouldn't she not even be in the UK under the policies that she advocates?
Yes, she came here as a legal immigrant
I love Yvette Cooper - in a time where many politicians on both sides are an embarrassment, she truly seems to care.
Yep. Move over Keir.
Her and Chris Bryant 👍
Yes I noticed that when a child in Wakefield was threatened with death and she said F.A. even though it is a labour constituancy
Brexit pushed the uk out of a return agreement
Braverman, Jenrick and co / most of the Tory party are sickening bunch!!
as are all those who support and vote for their sickening governance.
the tories talking about the economic costs as if they haven’t spent a decade in power pissing our money up the wall
This isn’t just about their rights it’s ours too.
Just remember the way they treat asylum seekers is how they'd treat everyone if we didn't exist in a democracy 😉
@@lonelyone69 They like to shit on and bully vulnerable people, look at disabled people and welfare claimants. This government is a disgrace.
Is Cueella family still allowed to stay in this country?
This country is finished!
After this bill, I'd say this country is just getting started. It would be finished if we continue letting illegals into the country. Look at London now compared to the 1940s. That is the result of mass immigration. Now picture that sort of change to the entire UK...
Only if Labour get voted in!
@@SilverbackMatt Sorry to break the bad news to you, but you're part of the problem
This isn't a debate. Debates require honesty from each side.
JUST LOOK AT THE HATRED ON BRAVERMANS FACE,
Why do they keep calling them asylum seekers. They have asylum in Europe, as most come from somewhere else.
Why doesn’t Labour MP’s ask their constituents which way to vote. 🤔
Vote for what?
@@rossmase I remember when MP’s held surgeries bursting at the door for big decisions in the past Ross. Nowadays, even over Brexit, they didn’t. This Immigration Bill should have never been whipped on party lines and all MP’s should vote on what their local constituents want. 😀👍
I don't live in the UK but this country looks like a real joke. If the British public believe that small boats are the biggest problem facing the country then the the people of Briton deserve what is coming to them. Does Briton have no responsibility to refugees displaced due to British foreign policy? What is going to happen in the next few decades when we have massive amounts of climate refugees that need help. Is West going to shrug and say sorry not our problem? The west continues to drag their feet on climate change and yet is the growth of their economies that is causing the most damage.
Actually its emerging economies in the east that are currently producing the most emissions - you know, the emissions claimed to be the cause of the climate crisis everyone is so sure exists.
And please do tell, what British foreign policies have caused the current influx of Albanian economic migrants to this country? But I get your point, our nation's historic statecraft has been appalling. We do need to step aside and let some other countries have their turn at pursuing their own self interest on the world stage. Hopefully they will be less human than the humans we have in the UK.
The British people know... its time for a new government.
Yvette should be presenting MOTD
I'm the public , and I hate this bill, where's the empathy.
The standard of tory home secretaries is a very bad joke
"On the issue of small boats specifically, recent Ipsos polling in January on Rishi Sunak’s five pledges reinforces this point. We found that just 17 per cent of the public said passing new laws to stop small boat crossings from France was the most important to them, rising to 26 per cent for the pledge to make sure people who come to Britain illegally are detained and swiftly removed."
So she's spouting bollocks........there's a suprise 🙄🏴
Did anyone else notice how she had to pause before the word "fact" in claiming that people who have travelled to the UK by boat - who are almost immediately met by government representatives - are carrying drugs (despite being searched/questioned upon arrival)?
They don't need to carry them, they'll be dealing them not long after arrival.
@@pboo2607 how?
@@Nameless.Hermit
When they go missing and disappear into the black economy.
@@pboo2607 "the black economy"? Why do you keep deleting your comments? Is it possible that you don't want the world to know that you harbour I'll will towards the darker skinned people of our community?
@@Nameless.Hermit
I don't keep deleting my comments they're being deleted by the mods on here and I don't harbour any ill will towards the darker skinned community.
I love that their thinktank just gets them to copy the Americans. Border issues, lol.
How do Suella Braverman and Priti Patel get their nail varnish off?
POLISH remover.
What have we learnt ?. Don't try and beat Yvette Cooper . A proper MP with facts, elocution and compassion.
This woman is a serious piece of work. At best she's insidiously cynical, manipulative and delusionally ambitious (remember, she was _first_ to declare candidacy in both recent Tory leadership races).At worst she is certifiably, criminally wicked.
@Dog boy Have you read the Tories' _Illegal Migration Bill_ ? (Talk of a Freudian slip!) Try that for starters.
It’s good to see a grown up like Yvette remaining calm while putting the tories in their place
🤣😂
You're cleary deranged.
I MIGHT be more convinced by Suella if this wasn't the sudden "issue of the week".
as someone recently remarked - "starts with words, ends in gas chambers" - let's be careful
Hard luck Suella you know the rules
if the british public is in favour of a bill that goes against the European court of human rights (and therefore the universal declaration of human rights) then maybe that's an issue with the british public and not the vulnerable people who have seemingly no viable way of seeking asylum in the UK?!!
She is lying, there is no poll! Plus plenty of vulnerable people in the uk and the tories don't give a feck about em ✌
When Braverman says everyone opposing her is in favour of "unlimited immigration" or "doesn't have a plan" - total lies - you would expect even the Tories behind her to be shocked. But she seems to have licence to lie as much as she likes, while being free to simulate outrage if anyone else makes a mildly exaggerated comment.
Everyone knows that Labour would let the whole world in if they got the chance.
@@pboo2607 Silly comments don't help a serious debate like this.
@@pboo2607 go play with your conkers
@@chrisbirmingham5132
Figure of speech, not to be taken literally but you get the gist.
@@pboo2607 But there's no truth to it whatever and the whole of UK immigration history tells a completely different story. Yvette Cooper's current plan for getting agreements with safe countries like Albania, so as to be able to immediately repatriate its migrants, would almost certainly reduce immigration levels a lot more than Braverman's illegal posturing.
Borders? Are those the same borders, Cruella, that are wide open to smugglers due to a lack of checks as a result of Brexit? You know, the ones where maybe 1 in a hundred lorries are inspected? Yep, that seems pretty important to you.
You know they actually ran a study and found that 90% of lory produce was dangerous for human consumption. The home office looked at that study then promptly burned it 😂
Suella is really a piece of work. Not only lacks any empathy or compassion, but easily lies about Labour to distract from her failures.
Suella does not have to lie,Cooper has’nt got the brains, Suella has.
@@heathermoore9892 Yvette Cooper runs rings around Braverman (it’s not difficult)
@@clairefrier2353 dream on.
@@heathermoore9892 oh it’s no dream.
@@clairefrier2353
Perhaps you should wake. Cooper poor tax payer she has been glad of the tax payer,that’s one reason I can’t stand her.
Braverman and her inhumanitarian henchmen do not speak for me.
Don't be such a Drama Queen 👑
"The UK will always seek to uphold international laws..."
Clearly unless of course it gets in the way of Brexit, immigration laws, and the Conservatives onward march to fascism.
4th Reich inbound.
Simple truth is by simply calling them "illegal immigrants" Braverman is proving Lineker right. The method of entry may be illegal but as soon as they declare themselves, as they are entitled to do under international law they are not illegal. How can she use words like "honesty" and "dressing up a political argument" without being a complete hypocrite.
@Dog boy Tell me, which law has been broken? United Kingdom is a party to the 1951 Convention. Article 31 of the convention states that Countries shall not impose penalties on refugees who entered illegally in search of asylum if they present themselves without delay. Therefore they are not illegal. They would become an "illegal immigrant" only if they do not present themselves to authorities. Look at the Australian government website "...Although those who come to Australia by boat seeking Australia’s protection are classified by Australian law to be ‘unlawful non-citizens’, they have a right to seek asylum under international law and not be penalised for their mode of entry..." Notice the specific avoidance of "illegal immigrant" as it is false under international law.
If you went abroad without a passport etc, you could hand yourself over to authorities and claim "asylum". You would be processed, found wanting and deported. You are also covered by the same protections.
@Dog boy Kill someone in self defense and it now no longer "murder" is more of an accurate comparison. I actually provide you what the actual law states and you ignore it. No law says nothing about "first safe country". If you think it does, please come up with the specific law rather than state simply what you believe through indoctrination. And there lies the problem, indoctrination rather than looking at the facts, just like the "you want" comment". Show me where I have stated I want anything of what you stated. Respect of laws, yes, workable and effective immigration legislation yes.
@Dog boy Of course if your concern is costs, what does this piece of legislation do? Not process people who enter the country which means more money spent on hotels or detention, not less. Push for effective legislation, not one that simply tells you what you believe you want to hear because you are not actually listening properly.
@Dog boy Ah social pressures.. we are talking 10's of thousands yet immigration is over a million. Let's only target the minority as a scapegoat shall we. Kind of destroys the argument it's about social pressure. Have you come up with that 1st safe country law yet?
@Dog boy Funny how when you cannot provide fact based points you start personal attacks instead. Instead you attempt to make it them vs us. Here's a reality check. I know of nobody who wants uncontrolled immigration. I want effective immigration policies which work rather than the UK taxpayer paying for policies which are simply lip service. Now tell us.. how many people have been deported to Rwanda since the last piece of legislation which promised the same result using similar methods? Are you going to fall for the one next year as well or are you going to step back, look at the details and what the result will be? Are you actually going to simply believe what known, proven liars are telling you simply because you want it to be true?
For those who don’t know, I urge you to look into the ‘Madagascar plan’ and how scarily similar it is to the ‘Rwanda scheme’.
Except it isn't.
Resettling people deemed illegal and blamed for all the countries problems to a 3rd ‘safe’ country?
@@jackperry2821 Deporting Jews who lived in European countries because of their race and deporting people who paid criminal gangs is entirely different. Stop comparing the geonicode of European Jews with the deportation of criminal supporters.
@@alexanderfoster3628 you mean refugees?
Don't mention the entire colonial history of Australia 😉
Not many braks on d labor front bench ,!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
We love our country 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧thank you❤️👀👌
"they don't have a plan"... complete noncense
So what is their plan on immigration or any other issue?
@@DavidThomas-fm1uv They're not in government
I've never seen such a duplicitous character. Somehow I think she's worse than Johnson. She knows she's lying, she's even using the arguments against her own position on her opposition in some perverse reverse psychology attempt. It's utter incredulous. She defunds the asylum process while simultaneously bleating on about stopping the boats. Does nothing to stop the boat a while blaming the opposition for not having a plan while hers has seen an increase to the amount of boats. It's totally nuts.
"Out-of-touch lefties" had me spit my drink out it's so ridiculous.
Yeah. .. ridiculously true..
@@d3v1lbud in comparison to the Tories anything left of them is grounded at this point.
Those touchy lefties not letting us common sense folk violate international rights and a fucking Geneva convention. Because as we all know those are small things 😉
@S Y oh and FYI, if your dad will take his kcoc
Who dug up that old fossil to try and help dig Suella out of the hole she dug herself.
Old fossil? Sorry I meant John Redwood 😂
#NaziTories
How long would it take - to the nearest decade, perhaps - for the Govt to understand Politics 101 in that the Labour Party, right now and until the next GE, are His Majesty’s OPPOSITION! They don’t have to have a plan or a policy on ANYTHING as yet.
They're actually planning more than the Tories that's why they hired gray to educate the front bench on government.
I shall cast a spell to remove Braverman from the country:.......Uncle Thomas be far from us..
I think someone should tell Ms Braverman that she does not speak on behalf of the British Public,she speaks on behalf on some of them, and when she loses her seat and is voted out of office she won't be talking on behalf of any of them
Any viewers who fell uneasy because that SB may have made some sensible points, just keep repeating "ALL IMMIGRANTS GOOD ALL TORIES BAD" until that feeling goes away.
Anyone who thinks grown ass men running into our country every day obviously couldn’t care less about who’s running around the streets that our families walk on. It might not affect you yet but 20/30 years time when you’re a minority you’ll feel the pressure.
Yvette Cooper is a beast!
I could think of a much better word....BALLS!!!
Yes an ugly one at that.
Keep the streets safe for everyone
She could always do the back stroke up and down the English channel and make it look like its shark infested...no rubber dinghies would want to go through that...
Can Cruella Braverman go and live in Rwanda if it’s so good
How on earth this lady is HO secretary ill not make her even a Councillor
She's a compromise with the ERG just like Patel. They're absolutely fucking batshit. Jacob Rees Mogg is their strongest member.