2:50 The CRP pedals can also separate the loadcell from the hall sensor. There is a "pressure point" setting on Pit House you can use for that. 0% is loacell only 100% is hall sensor only The default is 50%, which is a mix of both.
Thank you. This is the exact video Ive been looking for. Excellent comparison. Looks like Im going to be getting the P1000's with haptic motor on the brake pedal 😁
Thank you for making such a fantastic comparison review - it's exactly what I needed to help make the decision, and I'm going for the P1000s. The add-ons won't comlicating things for me in terms of pricing - they'll make great father's day/birthday presents!
I started with a moza r9, and I have to say moza's software is probably the best for beginners. The software is very intuitive and very easy to understand they even have little information tabs telling u what every adjustment does. It made everything really easy when I first started and I can't give them enough credit for that. Even with that I just bought the p1000s👍
@@EZ10_Live I have nothing but good things to say about it. I have my wheel base set to max settings and I paired it with an ASR1 rig from Advanced Sim Racing. I usually turn it down to 8nm of toque tho. Cause when it’s on max, it kinda feels like it’s way over 10nm. It feels like 15 honestly lol. But I absolutely love it!
thanks for the interesting comparison. But what do you still think about the P1000 hydraulics? Is it worth buying as an add-on? does it give additional sensation? pleasure?
I almost bought the crp because of the price but I was thinking that pedals for me is the most important investment in sim racing so I'm getting the p1000 with 2 motors
Tbh, those professional simracing TH-camrs dunking on the CRP, are very nitpicky because they get to have so many choices....The CRP is objectively an excellent set of pedals. And there's no need for height adjustment since the pedals are not as tall as the ones on the Simagic's. The CRP's height is perfect for most people as it is I would say. Yes it could do with a few quality of life improvements, and that's where the CRP v2 comes in (with the ability to add a hydropic FFB motor to it)
Thanks for the review. On a side note, I have recently bought the Moza CRP pedals and I can confidently say that I have zero side to side play or any other play in the pedals. Im not sure if your video helped the manufacturing process or if they gave you a subpar unit or if I just got lucky.
I have the CRP since last year. With time the brake pedal may gain lateral play due to the design of the pivot point. Especially if you put a lot of force and you have the habit to push the pedal not straight. Mine has very little play to be honest, around 3mm per side
DONT BUY MOZA, I purchased a R9 V2 and as soon as i got it out of the box it was defective, turns out there was rust and corrosion in the Base, they sent me a new board which did not fix the problem, which is when i found rust and corrosion inside of the base, so they had me send it back and they put a third main board in the base which guess what did not fix the problem and now their support is ignoring me, so i have purchased a brand new R9 V2 in August and i have never got to use it and now im stuck with a non functioning R9
18:00 What are you talking about? P1000s do not have this adjustment for all pedals, only for the throttle pedal and only two options. You are confused with the P2000 which has this adjustment for all pedals and more than two options.
Brake pedal mentioned instead of Throttle pedal, good catch. All pedals are adjustable using different methods. The editing of the video got a little mixed up there.
Had the Moza CRP pedals and now the Simagic P2K with long gas pedal. It's not the the Moza's are terrible, it's just that they should be about 150.00 less than what they are imo.
There is a small orings on CRP's clutch bearings. They tend to slip and make a scratch, squeaking noise. May be the customer support can help you with that.
@@eRacingAcademy my issue is with hoe it responds in game. in pithouse and in game it shows the clutch is working but unless im pressing down 100% it doesn’t work as a clutch does. i cant ease off the clutch when starting in 1st either because of it.
@@Slawtism I have to agree with you that they have done somthing strange with the clutch and not sure why. I think its the "3 stage" thing that they brag about, but it just feels weird. It does remind me of a few rented cars I have had in the past that were not German though. I have made my pedal stop before the start of the curve/3 stage and reset that point to max/100% in the pit software
simagic alpha mini almayı düşünüyorum ancak ilk başta bütçemi pedalları çok aşıyor onun yerine faklı pedal kullanabilirmiyim srp gibi ilk dd serüvenim olucak oyunlarda farklı ürünler beni zorlarmı
Farklı pedal kullanmak mümkün tabiki. Sonuçta aldığın pedalı Usb ile ayrı bir kontrolcü ile Pc'ye takacaksınız. Pedalın ve Base'in yazılımı farklı olacak sadece. Kullandığın pedala alıştıktan sonra sürüş anlamında zorlayacağını sanmam. Şimdiden keyifli sürüşler.
merhaba şu bilgi acaba doğru mu? "G923: This wheel is made of plastic, so it’s not as durable as G29. However, it still lasts longer than other wheels. If you don’t mind spending extra money, you can opt for a wheel that’s made of metal instead." "f you’ve ever played video games, you know how uncomfortable it can be. Playing for long hours can make your hands cramp up. To prevent this, you need to rest your wrists on something soft. G29: Its soft cushioning material, G29 provides comfort for your wrists. Its padding is thick enough to keep your wrist steady without feeling too heavy. G923 does not have this feature. Instead, it uses a rubberized surface to provide grip. This may work well for people who prefer playing on flat surfaces, but it might not be ideal for those who enjoy driving games." hızlıca cevap veerirseniz çok sevinnirim
iki üründe aynı deri kaplamaya sahip.Tuş yerleşimleri, motor yapısı vb herşeyi ile aynı. Farkı trueforce nedeni ile ana kartta yapılan değişiklikler. Yazan arkadaş nasıl bir kafa ile yazmış anlayamadım. th-cam.com/video/Joqb9RjeZvA/w-d-xo.html Bu videoda zaten 2 ürünü de incelemiştik. Bir göz atmak isteyebilirsin.
teşekkürler ben daha çok otobüs veya tır simülasyonları oynamayı düşünüyorum true force teknolojisi o anlamda çok işime yaramaz değil mi, bir de siz g29 daki o frenle oluşan ağırlık hissinin gittiğini söylemiştiniz g923 de, otobüsler tırlarda ağır araçlar haliyle çok fark eder mi? @@eRacingAcademy
İlgiyle sizi izliyorum verdiğiniz bilgiler için teşekkür ederim...Sormak istediğim Logitech G923 ile Thrustmaster TH8S Shifter bilgisayarda uyumlu olarak kullanabilir miyim ve bağlantı nasıl olmalı ???
Merhaba abi sana sormak istediğim bir soru var umarım cevaplarsın. Thrustmaster T150 PRO, TMX Pro, T248X. Direksiyon setleri arasında hangisi daha kalitelidir, sıralama yapabilir misin?
Selamlar, öncelikle T150 Pro ve Tmx Pro ikiside aynı üründür. iki set te 3 pedallı T3Pa pedallar ile kit halindedir. İkisi arasındaki farklar desteklediği platformlardır. T150 - Pc ve Ps4-ps5, TMX ise Xbox ve Pc uyumludur. T150 de TMX'e oranla tuş yerleşimi farklıdır. T150 270-1080 derece, TMX ise 270-900 derece aralığında çalışır. T248 inceleme videomuzda T150 ile olan farklarına değinmiştik. 🟠Video Link; th-cam.com/video/nnRSuYO0Eok/w-d-xo.html T248 daha gelişmiş komponent ve yazılıma sahip, pedallarında daha yenilikçi ve dayanıklı hall effect sensörler kullanması ve fren yayının modlamaya açık olması nedeni le T248 daha önde bize göre.
Thanks for the video mate, really helpfull! I ordered the P1000 set although my wheel base is Moza R12, i believe they are better One thing i didnt understand 2:40 - 2:50 , what exactly are we able to change?
On the brake pedal, you can chosse between loadcell or hall effect sensor. Hall effect sensor calculates pedal throttle, loadcell calculates the amount of the pressure from the foot to brake. ı Recomend to keep it on loadcell and get used with it. Enjoy your drive.🙏🙏
Jason selam.Yeni bir direksiyon seti almayı düşünüyorum, çok kararsız kaldım yardımcı olursan sevinirim.Hard simülasyon oyuncusu değilim genellikle f1, nfs gibi oyunlar oynuyorum.Bütçe konusunda sıkıntım yok ama fazladan da para yatırnak istemiyorum.Moza r5 seti f/p olarak en iyi gibi duruyor.Direct drive olması çok daha dayanıklı olacaktır.Daha ucuza tatminkar bir set var mıdır yoksa r5 setini tercih mi etmeliyim?
Selamlar, Pc giriş seviyesi DD ürün olarak Moza R5 ten daha uygunu şu an için yok. Ekosistem ve yazılım olarak ta üzmeyecek nitelikte. Moza R5 bundle incelemesinde Moza R5 ile SRP lite pedalları kullanmıştık. pedallar konusunda biraz eleştirimiz olmuştu. th-cam.com/video/RPZYTmfgdeM/w-d-xo.html Base olarak günlük casual kullanıcı için R5 tatminkar bir base. Günümüzde halen satılmakta olan Logitech G29'un giriş seviyesi DD versiyonu diyebiliriz. Şahsen daha hissiyatlı bir pedal ile tercih edilebilir.
There are throttle springs and clutch springs that comes with it. It comes with incredibly stuff polyurethane disks in the brake. p1000 is a massive upgrade from Fanatec. Get the Haptic motors for brake and throttle and be blown away.
It looks very strange to me that those p1000 are so tall like you have to press with your finger tips, doesn't look comfortable or erganomic for long races at all
I already got the CRP, and honestly it's amazing.....Yes it takes a bit more tinkering to adjust the strength and stuff, but it's not a big con point in my book, you get used to it pretty quickly. The CRP v2 already improved a lot on that.....And the height adjustment thing, maybe it's necessary when your pedals are as tall as the Simagic's, but the CRP's height is honestly perfect for most people as it is!.....If you can get the CRP secondhand at a cheaper price, I think it's a much better deal than the Simagic's
@@TooToo246 no , you might be new to racing. They look nice ,but it’s not about the looks I’m talking about the performance and feel. Does not matter how much the price. They are upper low tier
Show me the pedals in 8 years still working and I might be more inclined, but the way things are going in China I haven't got much faith that these companies will be around for long. I hope I'm wrong, the European companies need to wake their ideas up
Just an FYI, the "Pressure Point Setting" on the Moza brake pedal is how you adjust how much of the hell sensor vs the load cell signal is being used.
2:50 The CRP pedals can also separate the loadcell from the hall sensor. There is a "pressure point" setting on Pit House you can use for that.
0% is loacell only
100% is hall sensor only
The default is 50%, which is a mix of both.
Thank you. This is the exact video Ive been looking for. Excellent comparison.
Looks like Im going to be getting the P1000's with haptic motor on the brake pedal 😁
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for making such a fantastic comparison review - it's exactly what I needed to help make the decision, and I'm going for the P1000s. The add-ons won't comlicating things for me in terms of pricing - they'll make great father's day/birthday presents!
Glad it was helpful! Have fun..
I started with a moza r9, and I have to say moza's software is probably the best for beginners. The software is very intuitive and very easy to understand they even have little information tabs telling u what every adjustment does. It made everything really easy when I first started and I can't give them enough credit for that. Even with that I just bought the p1000s👍
Thanks for sharing! Have a great drive. 🙏
Tam da merak ettiğim karşılaştırma eline sağlık!;)
🙏🙏
I’m so happy with my p1000’s, alpha mini, and GT neo wheel. Well worth the money without a doubt.
Great combo!! Enjoy it loads, GT Neo is surprisingly good 😉
just bought the same exact thing, and a playseat trophy. How is it feeling for you so far?
@@EZ10_Live I have nothing but good things to say about it. I have my wheel base set to max settings and I paired it with an ASR1 rig from Advanced Sim Racing. I usually turn it down to 8nm of toque tho. Cause when it’s on max, it kinda feels like it’s way over 10nm. It feels like 15 honestly lol. But I absolutely love it!
Very nice review! Thanks for the info ❤
thanks for the interesting comparison. But what do you still think about the P1000 hydraulics? Is it worth buying as an add-on? does it give additional sensation? pleasure?
You may want to check this video. th-cam.com/video/ScQN-niZRzE/w-d-xo.html
Hope it helps.👍👍
Any comparison for the p1000 and v2 or v3? Great video!
I almost bought the crp because of the price but I was thinking that pedals for me is the most important investment in sim racing so I'm getting the p1000 with 2 motors
Tbh, those professional simracing TH-camrs dunking on the CRP, are very nitpicky because they get to have so many choices....The CRP is objectively an excellent set of pedals. And there's no need for height adjustment since the pedals are not as tall as the ones on the Simagic's. The CRP's height is perfect for most people as it is I would say. Yes it could do with a few quality of life improvements, and that's where the CRP v2 comes in (with the ability to add a hydropic FFB motor to it)
Thanks for the review. On a side note, I have recently bought the Moza CRP pedals and I can confidently say that I have zero side to side play or any other play in the pedals. Im not sure if your video helped the manufacturing process or if they gave you a subpar unit or if I just got lucky.
Great to hear! Have a great drive .. 👍
I have the CRP as well....I really don't get why those TH-camrs are dunking on it
I have the CRP since last year. With time the brake pedal may gain lateral play due to the design of the pivot point.
Especially if you put a lot of force and you have the habit to push the pedal not straight.
Mine has very little play to be honest, around 3mm per side
DONT BUY MOZA, I purchased a R9 V2 and as soon as i got it out of the box it was defective, turns out there was rust and corrosion in the Base, they sent me a new board which did not fix the problem, which is when i found rust and corrosion inside of the base, so they had me send it back and they put a third main board in the base which guess what did not fix the problem and now their support is ignoring me, so i have purchased a brand new R9 V2 in August and i have never got to use it and now im stuck with a non functioning R9
18:00 What are you talking about? P1000s do not have this adjustment for all pedals, only for the throttle pedal and only two options. You are confused with the P2000 which has this adjustment for all pedals and more than two options.
Brake pedal mentioned instead of Throttle pedal, good catch. All pedals are adjustable using different methods. The editing of the video got a little mixed up there.
Had the Moza CRP pedals and now the Simagic P2K with long gas pedal. It's not the the Moza's are terrible, it's just that they should be about 150.00 less than what they are imo.
i wish i looked into these before getting crp's. i cant seem to get the clutch to work or feel right
There is a small orings on CRP's clutch bearings.
They tend to slip and make a scratch, squeaking noise. May be the customer support can help you with that.
@@eRacingAcademy my issue is with hoe it responds in game. in pithouse and in game it shows the clutch is working but unless im pressing down 100% it doesn’t work as a clutch does. i cant ease off the clutch when starting in 1st either because of it.
@@Slawtism I have to agree with you that they have done somthing strange with the clutch and not sure why. I think its the "3 stage" thing that they brag about, but it just feels weird. It does remind me of a few rented cars I have had in the past that were not German though. I have made my pedal stop before the start of the curve/3 stage and reset that point to max/100% in the pit software
How would you compare the p1000 to the VNM pedal set?
We do not have a chance to try VNM yet. Sorry about that.
@eRacing Academy EA SPORT WRC videosu gelicek mi pedalları orda görmek isteriz
Yakın planlar dahilinde yok diyebilirim.
Automobilista'nın Rallycross DLC'sinin tamamlanmasını bekliyoruz.
simagic alpha mini almayı düşünüyorum ancak ilk başta bütçemi pedalları çok aşıyor onun yerine faklı pedal kullanabilirmiyim srp gibi ilk dd serüvenim olucak oyunlarda farklı ürünler beni zorlarmı
Farklı pedal kullanmak mümkün tabiki. Sonuçta aldığın pedalı Usb ile ayrı bir kontrolcü ile Pc'ye takacaksınız. Pedalın ve Base'in yazılımı farklı olacak sadece.
Kullandığın pedala alıştıktan sonra sürüş anlamında zorlayacağını sanmam.
Şimdiden keyifli sürüşler.
merhaba şu bilgi acaba doğru mu? "G923: This wheel is made of plastic, so it’s not as durable as G29. However, it still lasts longer than other wheels. If you don’t mind spending extra money, you can opt for a wheel that’s made of metal instead." "f you’ve ever played video games, you know how uncomfortable it can be. Playing for long hours can make your hands cramp up. To prevent this, you need to rest your wrists on something soft.
G29: Its soft cushioning material, G29 provides comfort for your wrists. Its padding is thick enough to keep your wrist steady without feeling too heavy.
G923 does not have this feature. Instead, it uses a rubberized surface to provide grip.
This may work well for people who prefer playing on flat surfaces, but it might not be ideal for those who enjoy driving games." hızlıca cevap veerirseniz çok sevinnirim
iki üründe aynı deri kaplamaya sahip.Tuş yerleşimleri, motor yapısı vb herşeyi ile aynı. Farkı trueforce nedeni ile ana kartta yapılan değişiklikler. Yazan arkadaş nasıl bir kafa ile yazmış anlayamadım.
th-cam.com/video/Joqb9RjeZvA/w-d-xo.html Bu videoda zaten 2 ürünü de incelemiştik. Bir göz atmak isteyebilirsin.
teşekkürler ben daha çok otobüs veya tır simülasyonları oynamayı düşünüyorum true force teknolojisi o anlamda çok işime yaramaz değil mi, bir de siz g29 daki o frenle oluşan ağırlık hissinin gittiğini söylemiştiniz g923 de, otobüsler tırlarda ağır araçlar haliyle çok fark eder mi? @@eRacingAcademy
İlgiyle sizi izliyorum verdiğiniz bilgiler için teşekkür ederim...Sormak istediğim Logitech G923 ile Thrustmaster TH8S Shifter bilgisayarda uyumlu olarak kullanabilir miyim ve bağlantı nasıl olmalı ???
selamlar, iki ürünü de usb üzerinden pc'ye bağlayarak ve kullanacağın simülasyona ayrı bir kontrolcü olarak tanıtarak kullanmanız mümkün.
teşekkür ediyorum...
@@eRacingAcademy
Merhaba abi sana sormak istediğim bir soru var umarım cevaplarsın. Thrustmaster T150 PRO, TMX Pro, T248X. Direksiyon setleri arasında hangisi daha kalitelidir, sıralama yapabilir misin?
Selamlar, öncelikle T150 Pro ve Tmx Pro ikiside aynı üründür. iki set te 3 pedallı T3Pa pedallar ile kit halindedir.
İkisi arasındaki farklar desteklediği platformlardır. T150 - Pc ve Ps4-ps5, TMX ise Xbox ve Pc uyumludur.
T150 de TMX'e oranla tuş yerleşimi farklıdır.
T150 270-1080 derece, TMX ise 270-900 derece aralığında çalışır.
T248 inceleme videomuzda T150 ile olan farklarına değinmiştik.
🟠Video Link; th-cam.com/video/nnRSuYO0Eok/w-d-xo.html
T248 daha gelişmiş komponent ve yazılıma sahip, pedallarında daha yenilikçi ve dayanıklı hall effect sensörler kullanması ve fren yayının modlamaya açık olması nedeni le T248 daha önde bize göre.
Benim thrustmaster marka direksiyon seti içinden takırtı yapıyor tamir için servisiniz var mı?
Atölye desteğimiz yok. üzgünüm.
Facebook ürün veya oyun gruplarında bu konuda destek bulabilirsin.
@@eRacingAcademy teşekkürler
I've used both, the moza has more adjustability and the brake feels better then the simmagic to me.
first time i've heard this opinion.
VNM for the win
Thanks for the video mate, really helpfull!
I ordered the P1000 set although my wheel base is Moza R12, i believe they are better
One thing i didnt understand 2:40 - 2:50 , what exactly are we able to change?
On the brake pedal, you can chosse between loadcell or hall effect sensor.
Hall effect sensor calculates pedal throttle, loadcell calculates the amount of the pressure from the foot to brake.
ı Recomend to keep it on loadcell and get used with it.
Enjoy your drive.🙏🙏
@eRacingAcademy Big thanks for the info!
@@FataL-Gr 🙏🙏
I'm on the same page. Need to upgrade my t lcm pedals after buying the r12 with ks wheel. Tough nut to crack. Moza, Simagic, Heusinkveld......
Is simagic p1000 compatibile with Moza r12?
Compatible on Pc yes.
P1000 connects via Usb to Pc.
Jason selam.Yeni bir direksiyon seti almayı düşünüyorum, çok kararsız kaldım yardımcı olursan sevinirim.Hard simülasyon oyuncusu değilim genellikle f1, nfs gibi oyunlar oynuyorum.Bütçe konusunda sıkıntım yok ama fazladan da para yatırnak istemiyorum.Moza r5 seti f/p olarak en iyi gibi duruyor.Direct drive olması çok daha dayanıklı olacaktır.Daha ucuza tatminkar bir set var mıdır yoksa r5 setini tercih mi etmeliyim?
Selamlar,
Pc giriş seviyesi DD ürün olarak Moza R5 ten daha uygunu şu an için yok. Ekosistem ve yazılım olarak ta üzmeyecek nitelikte.
Moza R5 bundle incelemesinde Moza R5 ile SRP lite pedalları kullanmıştık. pedallar konusunda biraz eleştirimiz olmuştu. th-cam.com/video/RPZYTmfgdeM/w-d-xo.html
Base olarak günlük casual kullanıcı için R5 tatminkar bir base. Günümüzde halen satılmakta olan Logitech G29'un giriş seviyesi DD versiyonu diyebiliriz.
Şahsen daha hissiyatlı bir pedal ile tercih edilebilir.
There are throttle springs and clutch springs that comes with it. It comes with incredibly stuff polyurethane disks in the brake.
p1000 is a massive upgrade from Fanatec. Get the Haptic motors for brake and throttle and be blown away.
For the throttle pedal (blue spring) intalled clutch spring work fine for now.
For a long therm happy with P1000.
Enjoy your drive mate.. 👍
It looks very strange to me that those p1000 are so tall like you have to press with your finger tips, doesn't look comfortable or erganomic for long races at all
Pedal heights adjustable.(one hole up and down)
in this video they all set to max position.
So the huge price difference is not a con for simagic..
the 30 bucks? XD
I already got the CRP, and honestly it's amazing.....Yes it takes a bit more tinkering to adjust the strength and stuff, but it's not a big con point in my book, you get used to it pretty quickly. The CRP v2 already improved a lot on that.....And the height adjustment thing, maybe it's necessary when your pedals are as tall as the Simagic's, but the CRP's height is honestly perfect for most people as it is!.....If you can get the CRP secondhand at a cheaper price, I think it's a much better deal than the Simagic's
Appeal no competition, Simagic great quality
I don't even need to watch the video to know which is better :D
Simagic > Moza. Those Moza pedal are low tier
Yeah, no, they're not low tier at all.....they're actually upper middle tier
@@TooToo246 no , you might be new to racing. They look nice ,but it’s not about the looks I’m talking about the performance and feel. Does not matter how much the price. They are upper low tier
Show me the pedals in 8 years still working and I might be more inclined, but the way things are going in China I haven't got much faith that these companies will be around for long. I hope I'm wrong, the European companies need to wake their ideas up
sadece reklam.
Selamlar, siz hangisini tercih ederdiniz? Sebepte verirseniz seviniriz 🙏
Simagic P1000 FRS (Dual) Hydraulic + 2 adet Haptic Reactor mükemmel kombin🤌
👏👍
I've yet to get load cell pedals, what does the pedal feel like when the brakes lock up without the haptic motor?
If there's no motor you don't feel anything as there's nothing which produce haptic feedback.