did you read my comment from yesterday? cuz when i saw the live stream just now i was like "omg she read my comment" anyways i hope you have a good day😸
In that scene where blitz goes on stolas lap like a cat he looks so sad right? im sure its the situation but also the fact he might feel guilty for all of this, knowing blitz mental healt issues and his thoguht process hes likely blaming himself for stolas suffering over octavia, i feel like this situation will only further his believe that he makes everyones lives worse, i rlly feel bad for stolas's situation but blitz turmoil breaks my heart on a deeper level.
I think Millie is worried about how a baby will change her. She lives a high risk lifestyle, and being pregnant or having a kid changes that. She often gets beat up and knocked around, which I suspect is her reason for wanting to try ranged weapons "this time". That way she wouldn't have to be in close where it's more dangerous. This might also make her worried that she'll be letting Moxxie down.
I imaging Via as not only being conflicted over the fact that Stolas lied to her and (in her eyes), left her alone, but also with the feeling that he's maybe better off with Blitz. She saw the happy pills and think's that he stayed miserable because of her. She gives herself fault for what happend and why they couldn't be happy.
@alexiaNBC And...she's not really wrong. At least, in regards to having a child. He wasn't given a choice in having an heir but he didn't have to love her and he does. So much.
@@alexiaNBC Exactly. And I feel as though as Octavia moves forward being a Goetia and being under her mother and uncle, the Goetia at some point are going to expect her to get married and produce an heir, too. Maybe once these pressures start coming down on Octavia, she might begin to sympathize with her dad and see how he was trying to make the best out of a situation he had no control over.
regardless of wether this is acutate or not shes robbing stolas of his own choise to be with her, its messed up of her to force a father to lose his kid, and very clearly says with a tone of cold sadisim, that all he'll know of her is her name, shes forcing him to be a stranger, thats an act of rebellion, of defiance, its something one would do to a parent that abused them... i know, i did the same to my abusive mother, in the end, she never knew me, the clear difference here octavia is being writting to be dumb and not seeing what everyone is showing her, she is activly refusing stolas's love, and embracing her mothers irational sadisting cruel attitude, and ignoring when she sees stella munipulate her and stolas aggainst eachother, sorry, cant let you justify that, octavia is out of line, VERY out of line.
Yeah! Just a small 1 bedroom apartment like at most 45 square meters! Its a tight space! Blitz may be succesful enough to run his own business but he's still amongst the lowest classes of society in a ring where his kind usually arent as welcome in this way! Like Millie said 2 episodes prior in the flashback, anything worth making a buck is welcome in lust or greed, but not cut out for the Pride ring. Plus having to fight for space along with all the sinners probably makes for a pretty bad housing crisis.
You can tell Blitz has changed. That their relationship isn’t sexual anymore. Like how he hugged Stolas instead of kissing him, like he respects his boundaries now
I’m seriously so happy that they finally gave Octavia a song because her voice actor is another musical theater icon. Barrett Wilber Weed is such a big broadway name, playing Veronica in “Heathers” and Janis in “Mean Girls.” Her voice is so powerful and amazing and I have been WAITING for her to sing! So glad we got it. Well worth the wait!
It's a wonder how they had the restraint to not give Octavia a song for so long just for the pay-off of having her first one be a reply to Stolas' first.
That explosion from Via was inevitable. She's young, going through a very hard time, stuck with Stella and her brother as her only family left, and had the one thing she was terrified come true confirming all her worst fears. She's so mad at Stolas because they were so close and she loves him so much and she doesn't know how to process her feelings of hurt and betrayal so she lashed out and went to an extreme. It's not like she can vent her feelings at any of her other family members safely.
entirely plus all the things she says arent wrong reason she is born is for the throne, stolas didn't love stella because gay also shes an abusive dunce, he did go to blitz because in her pov from his "confession" he made a deal with the imp causing his life to be pretty happy with him which is what shes fears the most. octivia will come around i feel like loona will be the way to help her understand since she almost lost blitz and is now showing she cares for him more plus stolas didnt entirely explain the complications back in s1 due to the samething he grew up the same but worse enviorment where he wasnt happy
I totally agree. She's a teenager and from her perspective, she kind of has a right to be mad. But more than anything, she's hurt. Octavia obviously still loves her dad very much, but the trust needs some mending. And that is something I think Stolas is gonna have to prove in the future. Or she somehow sees things from his perspective. I don't actually know; and that's why it's exciting to see where it goes from here.
@@kokopuff5836 Yeah exactly! Thoigh I also have a feeling that theres gonna be an even bigger risk too. As Stolas lost his powers and status, they went to André, but as Octavia grows into age that power may end up going to her instead! And since theres definitely a timeline moving in the show (episode 8-12 essentially happened over 2 months by looking at the dates and time of year), and the fact Octavia has been 17 ever since the show started, then her 18th birthday is approaching VERY Fast! And I have a very strong feeling that Andre would see Octavia as a hinderance to his own ability to gain power, and might try to get rid of her before she can turn 18. Possibly even just the day before. And I have a feeling that if theres any time for Stolas to try and make up for the past and win Octavias trust again, it'd be something like this!
I mean with the way things are, I understand Millie being scared of having a baby... with money problems and her and Moxie's line of work and basically dangerous people after them....
@lilbeano7234 which dumb, where in the show has that every been intended to be a hint at all? Does she get upset at him at times? Yeah but that is literally par for the course of ANY relationship, including a happy marriage. So I don't get why people go to that conclusion when there are like 5 other reasons to think of that make sense. Line of work in general, Passion for that line of work and lifestyle, finances, home life, and risks of dying.
@@lilbeano7234BULLSH*T! Those people don’t understand Millie at all. Her most defining trait is her LOYALTY! To Blitzo, her family and especially Moxxie. Don’t forget she slaughtered an entire mafia single-handedly to save her husband! Anyone willing to go that far would never ever cheat on their spouse!
Stolas punching out Andrealphus was so satisfying. Also, I love the parallels between Octavia's song and "You Will Be Okay" and how those lyrics get twisted. Heartbreaking.
Okay, but I can't STAND how many reactors totally fail in acknowledging HOW valid Octavia's feelings at the end of this episode are. Stolas didn't *just* promise he wouldn't leave her, in Looloo Land he *specifically* promised that he wouldn't leave her for Blitz. He did the morally upright thing by saving Blitz, yes, that doesn't change the fact that the SECOND his promise made to Octavia was tested he IMMEDIATELY broke it. Octavia GETS to be upset, damn it!
Via said you lied to me bc in episode 2 loo loo land stolas promised via that he would never leave her for blitz. And I think that Millie was crying bc she is probably scared that maybe moxxie would leave her bc she is pregnant and that’s why she said “you know I love you”
But I think also it severely screws things up financially. Because she will have to be taken off the field while she’s pregnant and that means only one of them is making the money
She's also probably scared because the pregnancy was unplanned and she's unsure if she actually wants to go through being a Mother. Unlike in most fiction, unexpected pregnancies are rarely something people are generally gonna be over the moon for.
Fun fact:It is revealed that hellborn demons celebrate a holiday called Sinsmas that happen on the same day as Christmas, where hellborn demons spend the day reveling in whatever sin they want, normally being their birth one. ue to being native from the Wrath Ring, imps normally spend that day fighting against their loved ones.Hellhounds normally indulge themselves eating snacks throughout the day and gather to have fun and get drunk.Judging by Stolas' confusion, goetic demons may not celebrate Sinsmas. An explanation for this might be due to the lower-class races revering their respective rulers as deities, as "Mastermind" showcased with Satan.Since Hellborn demons all celebrate Sinsmas, this holiday may not apply to Sinners because they were killed on Earth, possibly making them exempt from participating in the holiday.The Sinsmas tree is decorated with items reflecting each of the Seven Deadly Sins. Mammon's hat is used as the top (referencing the in-joke of him resembling a Christmas tree), Lucifer Morningstar is represented by the pentagrams, Beelzebub by the honeycombs, Belphegor by the purple candles, Satan by the horned eye bobbles, and Asmodeus by the phallic candy canes. Interestingly, Leviathan appears to be lacking any representation. Edit: MUM IM FAMOUS °○°
Mosco was right, you figured out Millie was pregnant really fast. She was trying so hard not to scream because you hadn't seen it yet.😂 I'm really interested to see how it will affect Millie and her and Moxxie's relationship going forward.
it makes the fight scene even scarier in hindsight. i can also see why she's feeling conflicted, with their work, and the crazy stuff that's happening. she has rough choices ahead.
Im convinced at this point that Octavia does not understand her own situation at all, let alone her Dad's. I don't think she knows her parents marriage was arranged, or that they were forced to have her by the Goetia, or that she will now very likely to be forced into an arranged marriage when she turns 18 and inherites Stolas' position. Thats why she reacts the way she does, she literally does not understand that her family and her existence is completely and utterly controlled by the Ars Goetia
She’s probably not even aware of how abusive Stella is to Stolas. Stolas has been trying to keep her away from the abuse so it would make sense that she doesn’t lash out on her mother since she probably hasn’t seen her true self.
@@Comet346 I mean, she has seen Stella be abusive to him, but only after the Blitz situation happened, so that would underline in her mind that the only reason family life was miserable enough to get medicated was because he chose Blitz over Stella.
It seemed Stolas really tried to keep all that hidden so she can feel happy and free throught her childhood, like he wanted his childhood to be. But the downside is that it completely made Octavia unprepared for the life As a royal. She understands the powers and some things, but not the part where she had to do certain roles or else.
Some people are saying that Millie is so upset by it because it's not Moxxie's baby and that was why she was really wanting to kill the cheating guy. I personally just think it's cause she believes that she's not ready to be a mother.
Anyone who thinks Millie would cheat on Moxxie doesn’t understand her at all. Millie’s biggest character trait is that she loyal to the people she loves: her bets fiend, Blitzo; her family and especially her husband. She killed an entire mafia to save him from their douchebag ex! The fact she’d go that far for Moxxie is proof enough that she’d never cheat on him.
I have NO idea where anyone would get that from, like did you not watch any of the episodes? do you have zero media literacy? she's not sad bc she cheated jfc it's most likely because she doesn't feel ready or doesn't want it, and knows that moxxie would. There's a lot of conflict coming for millie and moxx that's for sure
Mille’s pregnancy, Octavia’s abandonment, Loona’s upgrade, The dance …. This episode is a roller coaster of emotions. I was not ready and now I’m sobbing
As a daughter with daddy issues, I felt Octavia’s moment so much and plus the VA had an absolutely stunning voice that made me cry even more just from the voice alone
It’s intriguing how Octavia perceives Blitze as “stealing” her father, while in Blitze’s imagination, Octavia is with him and Loona, even sharing a hug. I genuinely would enjoy witnessing more interactions between the two characters. Blitze clearly respects and accepts Octavia, even being polite to her during Loo Loo Land. However, Octavia likely views him as a disruptive force in her life.
It seems both sides acknowledge what one thinks of the other. While they are total opposites of how they perceive each other, there’s more to the context than they believe.
I firmly believe there’s still a chance for Stolas and Octavia to reconcile one day. She still came to help her dad, so she still cares about him. Actions speak louder then words, after all.
The dance at the end was perfection. The way Blitzø genuinely listens to Stolas and his needs at the start really shows the character growth in him. And you can tell how emotionally drained Stolas is at the end. I can't wait to see where they take them both next season.
I do understand why Via felt like Stolas left her. He saved blitz assuming he would be killed after "confesssing" thus leaving her behind. sure he didn't actually leave her, but he loved blitz enough to do so. this combined with her being 17 makes for a very emotional reaction.
12:42 I can’t help but notice how Octavia’s hair here looks like a star, it reminds me of the nickname Stolas gave her, “my precious little star fire” AND IT HURTS SO MUCH MORE WTF
Are we gonna mention that Stolas got hands? That wasn't no sissy punch either, he jumped Andre like he owed him money and fought like he was on them streets.
Stolas: WHERE'S MY MONEY ANDRE WHERE'S MY DAMN MONEY *shoots Andre in the knees Andre: w-wait stolas we can talk about...OH MY GOETIA *cam pans back revealing stolas holding a flamethrower and burning Andre alive* Andre: ok let's go to the bank
As someone who’s situation is literally the situation Octavia’s in rn, I can say I’m literally sobbing and relating to her song so f*cking much. I can totally see her perspective. In one of the episode, her father promised he’d never leave her. In mastermind, Stolas *didn’t hesitate* to sacrifice himself *knowing* the consequences and *knowing* he won’t see his daughter. Stolas *knew* he’d have to leave her if he sacrificed himself and he still decided to sacrifice himself breaking Octavia’s promise for a second time. He already broke his promise on taking Via to see the stars and he just broke another promise. Via not forgiving her father is valid if you see it in her perspective.
I find it quite moving that Blitz integrates Octavia into a mental image of the happy family they can be, while Octavia believes that Stolas left her for Blitz when in reality the fact that she couldn't choose between the love of her life and his daughter can be in the same decision. Greetings, I am a big fan of yours❤️
Remember the Episode in Loo Loo land? Via was scared Stolas would leave and live with Blitzø where she couldn't find him. Well he promised to never ever do that, and even if this was out of his hands in her eyes he broke a big big promise.
The reason Stolas eating eggs isn’t cannibalism but just off putting is because the unfertilized eggs that are traditionally the ones eaten are basically bird periods
I think millie is worried about the baby risking her job and the babies life, but most importantly, moxxies job because she cares so much about moxxie. And the whole "yk ily, right?" And not telling him, i think she's worried about his reaction. Yk how gfs are scared to tell their bfs bcuz their worried they'll leave or have their hands fuller and worry about money, etc. It's shown before imps dont make as much money even blitz says "no this is what i do when i dont have money" so raising a baby imp could be difficult. ALSO, a lot of people are theorizing that moxxie will be afraid of becoming his father once the kid (or even KIDS) is born.
Okay so when Millie shows the pregnancy test in the hallway the door number she is at is the number 661 which is an angel number and means “661, it may be a sign that you are being called to lead with love and compassion. This number is a reminder to put your family and loved ones first, while also pursuing your career goals and passions. Seeing this number repeatedly may also be a sign that you are on the right path and should trust in the universe to guide you towards your goals.” So i think this confirms that she is gonna keep the baby BUT NO ONE NOTICED THIS 😭
Blitz’s place is a one bedroom apartment, Loona has the Bedroom to herself while Blitz usually sleeps on the couch. Though I think Blitz switched to that bean bag we saw in the last episode.
I think you're forgetting a bunch of times Stolas has sworn. He said the F word (without being bleeped out) in The Circus and in Oops and in Full Moon and in Apology Tour and in Mastermind.
It's important to realize that when Stella was talking about how Stolas had been trying to call for a month, Via had her headphones in. So she didn't hear that, and Stella's been keeping the phone away from her the whole time. So from Via's perspective, she saw her dad risk his life for Blitzø, try to call once the next day, and then never reached out to her again. That, mixed with Stella's gaslighting and Via's own fears of abandonment that we saw in Loo Loo Land, make it "obvious" to her that he cares more about Blitzø than her. Not to mention she's still young enough that she thinks of the family unit as an atomic, indivisible thing. It's hard for her to understand the difference between "Mom wasn't enough for you, and you don't love her" and "Mom and I aren't enough for you and you don't love us". Obviously, she's wrong, and it's heartbreaking -- her song makes me cry every time I hear it -- but it's understandable from her perspective. I just hope she gains a bit of clarity before the end of season 3 😅
Loona was such a f*cking badass in this episode and I had no idea that she could change her hellhound form like that. Her new demonic/hellhound form is just f*cking awesome. And I love it!. I and others have a theory in regards to Loona's new form. I and others believe that Loona may be related to Marchosia, the cruel she wolf goetia demon. I and others really hope that this is true. Finally, I love that she's continuing to show off her more loving and caring side more consistently since full moon onwards. And seeing her come out of her shell at the end of the episode with her hellhound friends was so heartwarming to watch.
Stolas can't censor himself because he lost his powers. (also, the Dragon growing more heads is called a Hydra, it's in Greek Mythology - hence why you thought of Hercules)
he chose blitz, even if it was instinctual, he thought he was going to die, she thought he was going to die. even if he didnt mean it he did choose blitz.
It's pretty well-established that Hellborns reproduce the same way that humans do. Sinners are the ones who can't, because they're just dead souls. All Hellborn are still technically living beings, their natural environment is just different from ours. Same reason they can die in Hell, and Sinners can't. They're already dead.
Blitzo doesn't have a bedroom. It's a one bedroom apartment and he gave the room to Loona. Every time we've seen him go to sleep he's been on the couch.
I realized that Millie was pregnant from the first hint: 1) Millie threw up, they hid this one well because she looked at the angel and then threw up, but in fiction when a woman throws up it is almost always pregnancy. 2) When Millie is irritated and Moxxie asks why she is so restless and she doesn't know how to answer, obvious mood swings. 3) During the fight against Andrealphus when Millie is thrown she touches her belly, so she must have already suspected. 4) Millie chooses to fight from a distance, again showing that she was strongly suspicious. 5) The Box in the trash.
I didn't know how badly I needed an Octavia song. The soft yet powerful delivery with such a perfect blend of clean and raspy transitions hit my soul harder than I would have imagined. More Octavia please!!!!
Just saying, the Andrealphus' Hydra Scene (where it loses a head and grows 2 more) is a reference to a scene in Greek Mythology, whose the Hercules Movie is heavily based on-
when stolas put his head on the chopping board, when he thought he was dying for blitz, he essentially chose blitz over his daughter, and she saw that.
Yes but via doesnt realize that love isnt a limited resource. Stolas can love them both and if he could he would choose both. She doesn't realize that its her mother who made him choose and who forced them appart. I am with Blitz she will come arround and realize but she needs. Time
I mean, if saving someone who was innocent (regarding the crime he was being accused of) from being executed upsets someone...so be it? it was not like "oooh you give him the best toy, you like him better ))):" the guy was literally gonna get his head chopped off.
@@bastik.3011 But this is not about loving 2 people is about the Stolas risking his life to save blitz and not thinking that maybe if he is dead he would break his promised to never leave Via alone. Since the moment he crashed the trial and sang his little "Im the mastermind" song he was prepared to be beheaded in place of blitz, he even put his head down for the executioner once IMP was out of the trial room and the only thing that saved him was his status THEN when he was punished and lost everything on top of being banished he finally asked what would happend to his daugther. Via dosent have the full picture of his father situation but she saw in live television how his father announced to all of hell and his direct superiors the sins he was the "mastermind" and blitz was only a peon so they should leave him go. To her that knows his father and the imp have a deeper relationship she probably has the assumption he risked his life for an imp and she came in second when he finally asked what would happend to her. Alas, Via is now alone with Stella who Stolas hastes so much and his sissy jack frost copy of an uncle.
@@luhanxavier It wasn't just saving someone, it is willing to get yourself killed if it means for someone else to survive. So yes, Stolas did choose Blitz over Octavia, and it's understandable she doesn't like him for wanting to kill himself for Blitz
@@luhanxavier yes but to her this is just the dude who is taking her dad away and he would have died for that dude permanently leaving via. You cant fault her for getting mad at this she was raised on conditional love thinking its a limited resource you cant share
My personal theory is Millie is so emotional is because she KNOWS Moxxie would want a kid, but she might not, and if he finds out, she'll probably have to break his heart by confessing she didn't want one.
I kinda like that Stolas and Via didn’t get together at the end, relationships take a long time to fix way better than how Chaggie handled it in Hazbin, the girls are disappointed at each other, both go to different leaders, then boom their together again and make up later in THE SAME EPISODE
That's hardly a fair comparison. The situations are very different from each other, and Charlie actually got to talk to someone about her mixed feelings over what she learnt about Vaggie and received some very helpful insight that helped her see Vaggie's side and forgive her for not telling her sooner. Her main problem wasn't so much that Vaggie had been an Exorcist but that she didn't tell her, which to her implied she didn't trust her. But Rosie helped point out why Vaggie may of had a hard time telling the person she loved most about her past. Octavia has not had such a chance to talk to someone about her feelings and she's shown to be quite a lonely young girl, so obviously she'll be stuck in a negative head space on how to process what she's been learning. And unlike with Charlie and Vaggie, a lot of what Octavia's been figuring out/learning is without the proper context.
Yeah but their issue was a lot different and more simple. Charlie was upset that Vaggie didn't tell her about being an Angel (which valid... did you think Princess Sunshine and Rainbows wouldn't be accepting) but Rosie helped her see Vaggie's perspective and still clearly loved her she just needed perspective
Say. Elijah. It’s real tragic Octavia renounced her own father Stolas, but she unfortunately didn’t get the full picture of it. She only assumed things with all the daily drama between her parents, the affair with Blitz, and upon finding her dad’s hidden stash of antidepressants. Hope Octi sees through all the BS her mother’s been spouting. We’ve already seen families being torn apart before this one in Helluva, like for Blitz and his sister Barb. She wants nothing to do with him, but that I feel is a long shot (compared to Octi) if he ever runs into her again.
I can totally understand Octavias point. Stolas chose to give Blitzø his grimoire, knowing thos is a very illegal act. So he definitely chose to risk potential punishment. Stolas chose to put Blitzø over Octavias safety in this instance. Of course Stolas didn't know what kind of punishment might await him, but he must have known that other Goetia would jump at the chance to get Octavia under their control.
Well Octavia also has a point since Stolas did not hesitate at the moment he sacrificed himself in exchange for saving Blitz, she is still a child who apart from growing up in a dysfunctional family had to endure his parents' fights, and seeing his dad basically chase Blitz 🤷🏻♀️
I’m pretty sure that the reason stolas wasn’t bleeped was because whenever he talked to blitz in season one, he was bleeped whenever he was talking sexual which is what he wasn’t doing at all this episode (or this season)
To be fair to Octavia, we’ve seen twice now where Stolas has put his needs above hers. We have “Loo Loo Land” where he took her out bc it was better than staying in the house and “Seeing Stars” where Stolas was busy dealing with the fallout of the divorce and forgetting about the very important event he promised they’d see together. I have no doubt that Stolas truly loves her and they have reconciled at the end of both of those times, but she has every right to not trust him. And children of divorce do tend to blame themselves for the misery of their parents, so she’s dealing with these feelings as well. I do believe these two things can be true at once: Stolas did choose to save Blitz, which was the right thing to do, but he also believed he was going to his death which would mean leaving Octavia behind no matter what. I do believe she will come around eventually. She’s dealing with these two things pain of the breaking of trust between her and her father, the one who seems to be the only one she could ever turn to when she needed someone.
So I’m not going to say Octavia is being reasonable in her interpretation of Stolas’ behaviour, she’s definitely doing some projection. That being said I think her viewing stolas’ willingness to sacrifice his life for blitz as breaking his promise is a pretty valid. He specifically promised he wouldn’t leave her for blitz, but then he chose to lay down his life for him.
Millie isn’t really upset that she’s pregnant, it’s more like she’s worried about how Moxie will react…especially since it’s so sudden. They aren’t prepared, have no supplies, and nine months can pass by fast.
"Millie isn't really upset she's pregnant" I'm pretty sure a lot of women would be upset if they unexpectedly got knocked up and they had zero plans on what to do if that ever happened to them. Especially if they never planned or wanted to have kids.
Also Idk if you noticed cause I didn't the first time I watched but Mel used a gun today, cause she probably didn't wanna risk the baby or because she is just too tired
when i heard her say her favorite movie is hercules, i felt that. im a SUCKER for the muses and the songs "gospel truth" and "zero to hero" and.. basically yeah, i love hercules. (fun fact, the muses was one of my childhood crushes i think)
My take on the situation is that Blitz doesn't have a bedroom. It's a one-bedroom apartment, and he gave his bedroom to Loona so she'd have one. He sleeps on the couch. And now, he's given that to Stolas, so he sleeps on the beanbag in the corner, and he seems perfectly content to do that because he's got this through-line to his character of "I will give anything to/for the people I care about and my comfort is secondary." At least... that's the read I've pulled. Which... it's a subtle thing, easily overlooked, but it adds depth to Blitz and it's in line with his protective nature--how he shields Millie, Moxie, and Loona when they're in danger, how he tries to comfort Loona during her doctor visit, and how he protected Fizz when they were young (after the Mammon concert) and again after they reconciled. Blitz is very much a protector, but he just hides it under a thick layer of callous disregard and irreverence. Stolas being in so vulnerable a state has peeled a crapload of that back and it's outstanding to finally see who Blitz is underneath.
The reason Millie was sad was probably because she wasn’t ready for a child yet and/or she’s worried for the baby because she’s and assassin and she does all of these cool tricks and stuff and she’s afraid she will miscarry.
Can’t really Blame Via. She’s a Teenager, “Teenager be Teenager’ing” Feelings of Hurt and Betrayal be extra high 💕✨ This was so many emotional swings but I don’t mind, it was a good combo of hit in the Feels and I really dig this whole new Route the show is taking. 😭🎄 💔❤️🩹 Merry SinSMas and happy HOLY’days everyone ✨🎄🔥 😈 😇
Hilarious and satisfying how you immediately concluded Millie was pregnant just on that one scene. Pretty obvious in hindsight but I didn't piece it together before the reveal. Good on ya
This must have been the easiest voice episode for Brandon Rogers. Rather than constant energetic yelling, he's mostly soft-spoken and normal sounding. Blitz is just so SOFT and SWEET with Stolas here! 🥰
Noone else I watch has mentioned this yet, but I am sure Blitz's apartment has only one bedroom, which he would definitely have given up for Loona. He only ever slept on the couch, the only other door we have ever seen is to the hallway outside, and the door next to the kitchen is shown to be the bathroom. Then comes the balcony doors and that's it. Ergo, Blitz has not had his own room since adopting Loona.
This episode really hits home for me. I understand Via's point of view. My parents have been divorced for 22 years (I'm 25, they divorced when I was 3.), and my mom has done everything in her power to ensure that I had a happy life and even tried to have some sort of common ground with my dad, but my dad is a deadbeat, he only wanted to avoid child support and get his part of the money that they invested in the house when they got married. A judge established that my dad had to see me twice a week and spend some vacations with me, but sometimes he stood me up even when I was a child, and when he DID pick me up he would spend every single day talking shit about my mom and when I didn't agree with him he would spit venom against me. Thank god I eventually grew a backbone and I cut him from my life. So I know what it feels like to have one parent DESPERATELY trying to make things right while the other uses you as a means to hurt the other because they are unable to let go and keep living their life and being the child in the middle of this shit show and the awful parent using your insecurities to manipulate you. English isn't my first language, I apologize if I made any mistakes and also, thank you for coming to my ted talk.
This episode was just amazing ❤ my theory on Millie's apprehensive response to her pregnancy is that she might not feel ready for motherhood considering her line of work as an assassin and her love for IMP and she wouldnt be ready to settle down or maybe she might not feel like she would be a good mother , a normal and understandable feeling for moms to be
26:11 girl i think she's more mad about him giving his life for some dude that he knows only for two years at max. stolas wasn't even thinking about Octavia in the court, if satan doesn't speared his life Via would have been left with Stella and andrealphus for eternity, stolas never even thought of that too.her being mad at him is very understandable at least for me.
@thecursedqueen9185 but Octavia doesn't knows that, that's the thing otherwise she would beat the living s**t out of her mother, considering how much powers she has.
@@thecursedqueen9185 okay??? Octavia doesn't know Stella was the one who hired striker. Hell, Stolas was so absent in Octavias life I don't think she even knew he was in the hospital.
This! The dude literally choose to die for his dwarf instead of living for his daughter, but of course Vivzi will find tons of excuses for him through other character's mouth. Especially my favorite type of excuse for Stolas "You don't understand, I'm a sad uwu avian with trauma and daddy issues, which means that i can't make mistakes and can't have flaws. I'm perfect and should be loved by everyone."
Also, if y'all didn't know, owls have a good sense to know when someone is pregnant, and when Moxxie and Millie were play fighting, you could see the worried look on Stolas face, bc he knew that Millie was pregnant! (But I'm not sure if she's knows yet... Until she took a pregnancy test later on)
My guess why Millie is conflicted about being pregnant: I think she and Moxxie agreed to have a childfree marriage. Considering Moxxies upbringing, I'm can imagine him not wanting to have children. He either thinks he will be a terrible dad because the only dad he knew was terrible. Or he thinks the world is simply too cruel to children, so the best thing to do is not bring children into the world so they won't experience what he has experienced. Millie, on the other hand, comes from a big happy family, and she sure wants the child now that it's on its way. Now she's afraid of Moxxies' reaction. (Another theory I heard is that the child might not be Moxxies. That's why Millie wanted to kill the target. She was projecting her own selfhate because she cheated. I see the argument, but I don't think they would do this to M&M)
I honestly think Blitzø is right, that Octavia just needs some time. Living full time with her mother she might realize just how abusive Stella was to Stolas, or either that might regret shutting him out and want to hear his side of the story. Only time will tell if she comes around.
I think the thing between Octavia and Stolas during this episode isn't about the divorcee, or even about how Stolas and Stella are treating her. I feel like she just feels ultimately betrayed by her father choosing Blitz over her. That probably seems very irrational, and it is. But Octavia is still a child, late teens if I remember right. But she hasn't, as far as I know experienced love and loss outside of her family at this point. the only "friend" we've ever seen her make was technically Loona. So the only two anchors in her life have been her parents, no matter how good or bad they are to her. After feeling betrayed by her father, the mother was the only one who "chose" her. We know thats bullshit, but again she's a child and now she'll be clinging on to the last anchor she has in her life. Sadly I think theres going to be a point were Octavia realizes that her mother only "chose" her to steal from and punish her father and doesn't give a shit about her will shatter whats left of Octavia's spirit. I will give her character props though, the imagery during her song shows that she sees Blitz as the one that "took" her father away, but she still seems reasonable enough to not directly blame blitz. On a side note, I've been listening to many of Vivzi and crew's pod casts and interviews for background noise while I work. While I doubt it's the only reason for Blitz's horse obsession, apparently Brandon Rodgers (Blitz's voice actor) doesn't like horses. The word that was used in the interview was "hates" horses, so it's kinda a running joke to make Brandon to constantly say/show as blitz how much he LOVES horses! Unfortunately I listened to so many of them back to back I don't think I could accurately tell you what interviews/podcasts I was listening to for that particular tid bit, otherwise I would post a link to it here. Thought it was just a funny bit between the cast.
Ngl, I’ve been waiting for Octavia to sing because she is voiced by Barrett Wilbert Weed. She’s played some great roles in theatre, like Veronica in Heathers and Janis in Mean Girls
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did you read my comment from yesterday? cuz when i saw the live stream just now i was like "omg she read my comment" anyways i hope you have a good day😸
I felt awful for stolas he lost his daughter only family he had because blitz and his crew always there for stolas god first 🙏 😢 😔 💔 😞 😪 😊💝💕🌹🌙⭐️
Ya know, I suddenly feel in the mood for some Kentucky fried chicken and pretending it's peacock! And wearing an authentic peacock hat!!
In that scene where blitz goes on stolas lap like a cat he looks so sad right? im sure its the situation but also the fact he might feel guilty for all of this, knowing blitz mental healt issues and his thoguht process hes likely blaming himself for stolas suffering over octavia, i feel like this situation will only further his believe that he makes everyones lives worse, i rlly feel bad for stolas's situation but blitz turmoil breaks my heart on a deeper level.
Notice that Loona was eating the whole time, and her and her friends were dressed as food cause hellhounds are Gluttony-born.
And the reason Moxxie and Millie were play fighting at the beginning of the episode is because they are from Wrath ring.
Makes me wonder how the other types of demons celebrate sinsmas
@@nathannunez3127 Ones from sloth probablz just sleep
@PK_HH And the ones from Lust probably fuck lol
@@nathannunez3127 The Lust ring is VERY sticky right now
I think Millie is worried about how a baby will change her. She lives a high risk lifestyle, and being pregnant or having a kid changes that. She often gets beat up and knocked around, which I suspect is her reason for wanting to try ranged weapons "this time". That way she wouldn't have to be in close where it's more dangerous. This might also make her worried that she'll be letting Moxxie down.
at that time she didn't know she was pregnant yet. bruh
@dark_koray_08 she obviously suspected it. why else would she have gotten a pregnancy test to begin with????
@dark_koray_08 She called Sally to literally tell her that she's pregnant. She knew, what do you mean?
@@krazytreRTM she called her after the test, dark was talking before doing the test
I don’t think she’s planning on keeping the baby. She asked Moxxie if he knew she loved him like she was about to do something that challenged that.
I imaging Via as not only being conflicted over the fact that Stolas lied to her and (in her eyes), left her alone, but also with the feeling that he's maybe better off with Blitz. She saw the happy pills and think's that he stayed miserable because of her. She gives herself fault for what happend and why they couldn't be happy.
@alexiaNBC And...she's not really wrong. At least, in regards to having a child. He wasn't given a choice in having an heir but he didn't have to love her and he does. So much.
Nope. That's not how she sees it. She is totally in the "he did this to me, it's all his fault " stage
@@alexiaNBC Exactly. And I feel as though as Octavia moves forward being a Goetia and being under her mother and uncle, the Goetia at some point are going to expect her to get married and produce an heir, too. Maybe once these pressures start coming down on Octavia, she might begin to sympathize with her dad and see how he was trying to make the best out of a situation he had no control over.
plus, from her Pov it looked like Stolas was sacrificing himself for Blitz. which in turn was like Stolas leaving her
regardless of wether this is acutate or not shes robbing stolas of his own choise to be with her, its messed up of her to force a father to lose his kid, and very clearly says with a tone of cold sadisim, that all he'll know of her is her name, shes forcing him to be a stranger, thats an act of rebellion, of defiance, its something one would do to a parent that abused them... i know, i did the same to my abusive mother, in the end, she never knew me, the clear difference here octavia is being writting to be dumb and not seeing what everyone is showing her, she is activly refusing stolas's love, and embracing her mothers irational sadisting cruel attitude, and ignoring when she sees stella munipulate her and stolas aggainst eachother, sorry, cant let you justify that, octavia is out of line, VERY out of line.
Blitzo is for once 1000% ready to be loved and to give it.
It's refreshing.
REALLY REFRESHING IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SO LONG
Meanwhile Stolas is struggling to feel loved ):
"Oh lords...I'M POOR NOW!!"
Awwwwwwwwwww. I feel so bad for Stolas. I just want to give him a big hug and tell him everything will be okay.
Same here!❤😢
Gotta admit, that line had me bursting out laughing 😂
2:09 Blitzø doesn't have a bedroom, he gave the only one in the apartment to Loona 🥺
Awwww 😭😭😭
Yeah! Just a small 1 bedroom apartment like at most 45 square meters! Its a tight space! Blitz may be succesful enough to run his own business but he's still amongst the lowest classes of society in a ring where his kind usually arent as welcome in this way! Like Millie said 2 episodes prior in the flashback, anything worth making a buck is welcome in lust or greed, but not cut out for the Pride ring. Plus having to fight for space along with all the sinners probably makes for a pretty bad housing crisis.
They need a couch bed
You can tell Blitz has changed. That their relationship isn’t sexual anymore. Like how he hugged Stolas instead of kissing him, like he respects his boundaries now
I’m seriously so happy that they finally gave Octavia a song because her voice actor is another musical theater icon. Barrett Wilber Weed is such a big broadway name, playing Veronica in “Heathers” and Janis in “Mean Girls.” Her voice is so powerful and amazing and I have been WAITING for her to sing! So glad we got it. Well worth the wait!
I knew it was Veronica! I love Heather's so much my brain immediately picked up on it
AND when she was in Mean Girls she was acting alongside Charlie's voice actress!
It's a wonder how they had the restraint to not give Octavia a song for so long just for the pay-off of having her first one be a reply to Stolas' first.
There's no way she was Veronica and I never noticed. Heathers is the only musical I ever watched LMAO.
VIA IS PLAYED BY VERONICA?!
That explosion from Via was inevitable. She's young, going through a very hard time, stuck with Stella and her brother as her only family left, and had the one thing she was terrified come true confirming all her worst fears. She's so mad at Stolas because they were so close and she loves him so much and she doesn't know how to process her feelings of hurt and betrayal so she lashed out and went to an extreme. It's not like she can vent her feelings at any of her other family members safely.
entirely plus all the things she says arent wrong reason she is born is for the throne, stolas didn't love stella because gay also shes an abusive dunce, he did go to blitz because in her pov from his "confession" he made a deal with the imp causing his life to be pretty happy with him which is what shes fears the most. octivia will come around i feel like loona will be the way to help her understand since she almost lost blitz and is now showing she cares for him more plus stolas didnt entirely explain the complications back in s1 due to the samething he grew up the same but worse enviorment where he wasnt happy
I totally agree. She's a teenager and from her perspective, she kind of has a right to be mad. But more than anything, she's hurt. Octavia obviously still loves her dad very much, but the trust needs some mending. And that is something I think Stolas is gonna have to prove in the future. Or she somehow sees things from his perspective. I don't actually know; and that's why it's exciting to see where it goes from here.
@@kokopuff5836 Yeah exactly! Thoigh I also have a feeling that theres gonna be an even bigger risk too. As Stolas lost his powers and status, they went to André, but as Octavia grows into age that power may end up going to her instead! And since theres definitely a timeline moving in the show (episode 8-12 essentially happened over 2 months by looking at the dates and time of year), and the fact Octavia has been 17 ever since the show started, then her 18th birthday is approaching VERY Fast!
And I have a very strong feeling that Andre would see Octavia as a hinderance to his own ability to gain power, and might try to get rid of her before she can turn 18. Possibly even just the day before. And I have a feeling that if theres any time for Stolas to try and make up for the past and win Octavias trust again, it'd be something like this!
THANK YOU! Why do people always forget what it’s like to be a teenager!?
I mean with the way things are, I understand Millie being scared of having a baby... with money problems and her and Moxie's line of work and basically dangerous people after them....
Exactly.
Some people think Millie cheated on Moxie..
@lilbeano7234 which dumb, where in the show has that every been intended to be a hint at all?
Does she get upset at him at times? Yeah but that is literally par for the course of ANY relationship, including a happy marriage. So I don't get why people go to that conclusion when there are like 5 other reasons to think of that make sense. Line of work in general, Passion for that line of work and lifestyle, finances, home life, and risks of dying.
@@lilbeano7234BULLSH*T! Those people don’t understand Millie at all. Her most defining trait is her LOYALTY! To Blitzo, her family and especially Moxxie. Don’t forget she slaughtered an entire mafia single-handedly to save her husband! Anyone willing to go that far would never ever cheat on their spouse!
Stolas punching out Andrealphus was so satisfying. Also, I love the parallels between Octavia's song and "You Will Be Okay" and how those lyrics get twisted. Heartbreaking.
your e v e r y w h e r e
It truly was satisfying and the song was beautiful
Okay, but I can't STAND how many reactors totally fail in acknowledging HOW valid Octavia's feelings at the end of this episode are. Stolas didn't *just* promise he wouldn't leave her, in Looloo Land he *specifically* promised that he wouldn't leave her for Blitz. He did the morally upright thing by saving Blitz, yes, that doesn't change the fact that the SECOND his promise made to Octavia was tested he IMMEDIATELY broke it. Octavia GETS to be upset, damn it!
PERIOD THANK U
I KNOW RIGHT, IT PISSES ME OFF SO BAD WHEN PEOPLE CEASE TO UNDERSTAND OCTAVIA'S SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT
(Sorry for yelling)
Via said you lied to me bc in episode 2 loo loo land stolas promised via that he would never leave her for blitz. And I think that Millie was crying bc she is probably scared that maybe moxxie would leave her bc she is pregnant and that’s why she said “you know I love you”
But I think also it severely screws things up financially. Because she will have to be taken off the field while she’s pregnant and that means only one of them is making the money
She's also probably scared because the pregnancy was unplanned and she's unsure if she actually wants to go through being a Mother. Unlike in most fiction, unexpected pregnancies are rarely something people are generally gonna be over the moon for.
@@zzskyninjazz1821 Plus, now they have another mouth to feed.
I get the feeling she said that because she doesn’t want to keep it and knows he would.
@@dodiswatchbobobo It's a possibility.
9:36 they're probably referencing how everyone says mammon is a christmas tree
That, and he's the ruler of greed. What better sin to represent buying all those gifts?
Fun fact:It is revealed that hellborn demons celebrate a holiday called Sinsmas that happen on the same day as Christmas, where hellborn demons spend the day reveling in whatever sin they want, normally being their birth one.
ue to being native from the Wrath Ring, imps normally spend that day fighting against their loved ones.Hellhounds normally indulge themselves eating snacks throughout the day and gather to have fun and get drunk.Judging by Stolas' confusion, goetic demons may not celebrate Sinsmas. An explanation for this might be due to the lower-class races revering their respective rulers as deities, as "Mastermind" showcased with Satan.Since Hellborn demons all celebrate Sinsmas, this holiday may not apply to Sinners because they were killed on Earth, possibly making them exempt from participating in the holiday.The Sinsmas tree is decorated with items reflecting each of the Seven Deadly Sins. Mammon's hat is used as the top (referencing the in-joke of him resembling a Christmas tree), Lucifer Morningstar is represented by the pentagrams, Beelzebub by the honeycombs, Belphegor by the purple candles, Satan by the horned eye bobbles, and Asmodeus by the phallic candy canes. Interestingly, Leviathan appears to be lacking any representation.
Edit: MUM IM FAMOUS °○°
HOLY YAP
I clicked and got jumpscared
Oh come on.
The embodiment of envy not getting anything is hilarious
I didn't notice that with the tree, thank you! ... btw it's very annoying when people reply only to say "wow you yap a lot" either read it or move on
Mosco was right, you figured out Millie was pregnant really fast. She was trying so hard not to scream because you hadn't seen it yet.😂 I'm really interested to see how it will affect Millie and her and Moxxie's relationship going forward.
The reveal that Millie was pregnant took me by surprise this whole episode was an emotional rollercoaster
it makes the fight scene even scarier in hindsight. i can also see why she's feeling conflicted, with their work, and the crazy stuff that's happening. she has rough choices ahead.
Im convinced at this point that Octavia does not understand her own situation at all, let alone her Dad's. I don't think she knows her parents marriage was arranged, or that they were forced to have her by the Goetia, or that she will now very likely to be forced into an arranged marriage when she turns 18 and inherites Stolas' position. Thats why she reacts the way she does, she literally does not understand that her family and her existence is completely and utterly controlled by the Ars Goetia
She’s probably not even aware of how abusive Stella is to Stolas. Stolas has been trying to keep her away from the abuse so it would make sense that she doesn’t lash out on her mother since she probably hasn’t seen her true self.
@@Comet346 I mean, she has seen Stella be abusive to him, but only after the Blitz situation happened, so that would underline in her mind that the only reason family life was miserable enough to get medicated was because he chose Blitz over Stella.
It seemed Stolas really tried to keep all that hidden so she can feel happy and free throught her childhood, like he wanted his childhood to be. But the downside is that it completely made Octavia unprepared for the life As a royal. She understands the powers and some things, but not the part where she had to do certain roles or else.
Some people are saying that Millie is so upset by it because it's not Moxxie's baby and that was why she was really wanting to kill the cheating guy. I personally just think it's cause she believes that she's not ready to be a mother.
Anyone who thinks Millie would cheat on Moxxie doesn’t understand her at all. Millie’s biggest character trait is that she loyal to the people she loves: her bets fiend, Blitzo; her family and especially her husband. She killed an entire mafia to save him from their douchebag ex! The fact she’d go that far for Moxxie is proof enough that she’d never cheat on him.
I have NO idea where anyone would get that from, like did you not watch any of the episodes? do you have zero media literacy? she's not sad bc she cheated jfc it's most likely because she doesn't feel ready or doesn't want it, and knows that moxxie would. There's a lot of conflict coming for millie and moxx that's for sure
Mille’s pregnancy, Octavia’s abandonment, Loona’s upgrade, The dance …. This episode is a roller coaster of emotions. I was not ready and now I’m sobbing
I feel like I seen this coment
@@JoJo17246 on the original video
Blitz doesn’t have a bedroom; his apartment is one bedroom and he gave it to Loona
As a daughter with daddy issues, I felt Octavia’s moment so much and plus the VA had an absolutely stunning voice that made me cry even more just from the voice alone
"I don't know what's gotten into me." Moxxie apparently. 😁
………….
You ain’t wrong 💀
OMG
I mean, you're not wrong. She IS pregnant after all LMAO 😂💀
It’s intriguing how Octavia perceives Blitze as “stealing” her father, while in Blitze’s imagination, Octavia is with him and Loona, even sharing a hug. I genuinely would enjoy witnessing more interactions between the two characters. Blitze clearly respects and accepts Octavia, even being polite to her during Loo Loo Land. However, Octavia likely views him as a disruptive force in her life.
It seems both sides acknowledge what one thinks of the other. While they are total opposites of how they perceive each other, there’s more to the context than they believe.
I firmly believe there’s still a chance for Stolas and Octavia to reconcile one day. She still came to help her dad, so she still cares about him.
Actions speak louder then words, after all.
OMG Elijah practically figured out the reveal with Millie after just the first hint lol
The fact that Stolas cussed more in this episode than the previous episodes combined just makes this too heart-wrenching to watch!!!! 😢😢
23:25 you know.. Hydras were always able to grow more heads even before Disney's Hercules 😂
But yeah, one of my favourite Disney renaissance movies! ❤
lol I was thinking the same thing
The dance at the end was perfection. The way Blitzø genuinely listens to Stolas and his needs at the start really shows the character growth in him. And you can tell how emotionally drained Stolas is at the end. I can't wait to see where they take them both next season.
I do understand why Via felt like Stolas left her. He saved blitz assuming he would be killed after "confesssing" thus leaving her behind. sure he didn't actually leave her, but he loved blitz enough to do so. this combined with her being 17 makes for a very emotional reaction.
12:42 I can’t help but notice how Octavia’s hair here looks like a star, it reminds me of the nickname Stolas gave her, “my precious little star fire” AND IT HURTS SO MUCH MORE WTF
Are we gonna mention that Stolas got hands? That wasn't no sissy punch either, he jumped Andre like he owed him money and fought like he was on them streets.
Seriously?! Did he always know that, was it just his breaking point, or is that some of Blitzø's influence?😂😂
Stolas: WHERE'S MY MONEY ANDRE WHERE'S MY DAMN MONEY *shoots Andre in the knees
Andre: w-wait stolas we can talk about...OH MY GOETIA *cam pans back revealing stolas holding a flamethrower and burning Andre alive*
Andre: ok let's go to the bank
@@Angrycat-pg5iv LMAOOOOO I CANT *WHEEEZE*
He got beaten just after this though 😊
@@Angrycat-pg5iv LMFAO 😭
As someone who’s situation is literally the situation Octavia’s in rn, I can say I’m literally sobbing and relating to her song so f*cking much. I can totally see her perspective.
In one of the episode, her father promised he’d never leave her.
In mastermind, Stolas *didn’t hesitate* to sacrifice himself *knowing* the consequences and *knowing* he won’t see his daughter. Stolas *knew* he’d have to leave her if he sacrificed himself and he still decided to sacrifice himself breaking Octavia’s promise for a second time. He already broke his promise on taking Via to see the stars and he just broke another promise. Via not forgiving her father is valid if you see it in her perspective.
I find it quite moving that Blitz integrates Octavia into a mental image of the happy family they can be, while Octavia believes that Stolas left her for Blitz when in reality the fact that she couldn't choose between the love of her life and his daughter can be in the same decision.
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Elijah: “WE’RE GETTING A LITTLE BABY IMP!!”
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Fun Fact: Blitzø doesn't have a bedroom. He lives in a one-bedroom apartment, and he gave that one bedroom to Loona.
Remember the Episode in Loo Loo land? Via was scared Stolas would leave and live with Blitzø where she couldn't find him. Well he promised to never ever do that, and even if this was out of his hands in her eyes he broke a big big promise.
The reason Stolas eating eggs isn’t cannibalism but just off putting is because the unfertilized eggs that are traditionally the ones eaten are basically bird periods
I think millie is worried about the baby risking her job and the babies life, but most importantly, moxxies job because she cares so much about moxxie. And the whole "yk ily, right?" And not telling him, i think she's worried about his reaction. Yk how gfs are scared to tell their bfs bcuz their worried they'll leave or have their hands fuller and worry about money, etc. It's shown before imps dont make as much money even blitz says "no this is what i do when i dont have money" so raising a baby imp could be difficult. ALSO, a lot of people are theorizing that moxxie will be afraid of becoming his father once the kid (or even KIDS) is born.
Okay so when Millie shows the pregnancy test in the hallway the door number she is at is the number 661 which is an angel number and means “661, it may be a sign that you are being called to lead with love and compassion. This number is a reminder to put your family and loved ones first, while also pursuing your career goals and passions. Seeing this number repeatedly may also be a sign that you are on the right path and should trust in the universe to guide you towards your goals.” So i think this confirms that she is gonna keep the baby BUT NO ONE NOTICED THIS 😭
I never would have known that! You’re a god damn genius!
22:55 remember in episode three spring break and he is drunk and hi fives Millie instead of grabbing his hand because Moxie was drunk
10:06 her voice actress was in Heathers and Mean Girls
Wait Barrett Wilbert Weed?!
@RosieTheWickedFangirl2007
You bet!!!
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Fuck Yeah I love MEAN GIRLS!
@@veronicasawyer
Fuck Yeah!
I love MEAN GIRLS AND IM THINKING ABOUT WATCHING HEATHERS EVEN THOUGH I’M 17
@RosieTheWickedFangirl2007 Yup
Blitz’s place is a one bedroom apartment, Loona has the Bedroom to herself while Blitz usually sleeps on the couch. Though I think Blitz switched to that bean bag we saw in the last episode.
I think you're forgetting a bunch of times Stolas has sworn. He said the F word (without being bleeped out) in The Circus and in Oops and in Full Moon and in Apology Tour and in Mastermind.
It's important to realize that when Stella was talking about how Stolas had been trying to call for a month, Via had her headphones in. So she didn't hear that, and Stella's been keeping the phone away from her the whole time. So from Via's perspective, she saw her dad risk his life for Blitzø, try to call once the next day, and then never reached out to her again. That, mixed with Stella's gaslighting and Via's own fears of abandonment that we saw in Loo Loo Land, make it "obvious" to her that he cares more about Blitzø than her.
Not to mention she's still young enough that she thinks of the family unit as an atomic, indivisible thing. It's hard for her to understand the difference between "Mom wasn't enough for you, and you don't love her" and "Mom and I aren't enough for you and you don't love us".
Obviously, she's wrong, and it's heartbreaking -- her song makes me cry every time I hear it -- but it's understandable from her perspective. I just hope she gains a bit of clarity before the end of season 3 😅
Loona was such a f*cking badass in this episode and I had no idea that she could change her hellhound form like that.
Her new demonic/hellhound form is just f*cking awesome. And I love it!.
I and others have a theory in regards to Loona's new form.
I and others believe that Loona may be related to Marchosia, the cruel she wolf goetia demon. I and others really hope that this is true.
Finally, I love that she's continuing to show off her more loving and caring side more consistently since full moon onwards.
And seeing her come out of her shell at the end of the episode with her hellhound friends was so heartwarming to watch.
I imagine it's bc it was a full moon or maybe it's just a rare hellhound form she's unlocked.
Wonder if we'll be seeing that form more. With it, Loona is definitely their hardest hitter next to Millie.
There's actually a fanfic called Loona Goetia on a03
14:17
Bro I actually can't with that delivery, I'm wheezing
Stolas can't censor himself because he lost his powers.
(also, the Dragon growing more heads is called a Hydra, it's in Greek Mythology - hence why you thought of Hercules)
Is that how it works? 🤔
Yeah, it reminded me of how kids say "look, it's the guy from fortnite" 😂
he chose blitz, even if it was instinctual, he thought he was going to die, she thought he was going to die. even if he didnt mean it he did choose blitz.
Yeah, it's kind of annoying how everyone tries to fool themselves and not admit that Stolas made his decisions and that these are the consequences.
@@pollointerestelar7439 Uhm- but he did suffer the consequences, fym by that 💀
Blitzo calling Andrealphus "Elsa" made me laugh so hard!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's pretty well-established that Hellborns reproduce the same way that humans do. Sinners are the ones who can't, because they're just dead souls. All Hellborn are still technically living beings, their natural environment is just different from ours. Same reason they can die in Hell, and Sinners can't. They're already dead.
ALSO since there's a REALLY LONG wait til season 3 viv said to expect more shorts so there everyone can look at new helluva content while we wait
Stolas making owl sounds while crying is so sad and funny at the same time!!!
Blitzo throwing Karen out the window was so funny!!! LOL!!!!
Best smash cut ever! 🤣
This episode was one of the biggest emotional rollercoaster
30:35 I know I’m commenting again but this is the first time we see him smile without the pills
Blitzo doesn't have a bedroom. It's a one bedroom apartment and he gave the room to Loona. Every time we've seen him go to sleep he's been on the couch.
I realized that Millie was pregnant from the first hint:
1) Millie threw up, they hid this one well because she looked at the angel and then threw up, but in fiction when a woman throws up it is almost always pregnancy.
2) When Millie is irritated and Moxxie asks why she is so restless and she doesn't know how to answer, obvious mood swings.
3) During the fight against Andrealphus when Millie is thrown she touches her belly, so she must have already suspected.
4) Millie chooses to fight from a distance, again showing that she was strongly suspicious.
5) The Box in the trash.
I didn't know how badly I needed an Octavia song. The soft yet powerful delivery with such a perfect blend of clean and raspy transitions hit my soul harder than I would have imagined. More Octavia please!!!!
Just saying, the Andrealphus' Hydra Scene (where it loses a head and grows 2 more) is a reference to a scene in Greek Mythology, whose the Hercules Movie is heavily based on-
when stolas put his head on the chopping board, when he thought he was dying for blitz, he essentially chose blitz over his daughter, and she saw that.
Yes but via doesnt realize that love isnt a limited resource. Stolas can love them both and if he could he would choose both. She doesn't realize that its her mother who made him choose and who forced them appart. I am with Blitz she will come arround and realize but she needs. Time
I mean, if saving someone who was innocent (regarding the crime he was being accused of) from being executed upsets someone...so be it? it was not like "oooh you give him the best toy, you like him better ))):" the guy was literally gonna get his head chopped off.
@@bastik.3011 But this is not about loving 2 people is about the Stolas risking his life to save blitz and not thinking that maybe if he is dead he would break his promised to never leave Via alone.
Since the moment he crashed the trial and sang his little "Im the mastermind" song he was prepared to be beheaded in place of blitz, he even put his head down for the executioner once IMP was out of the trial room and the only thing that saved him was his status THEN when he was punished and lost everything on top of being banished he finally asked what would happend to his daugther.
Via dosent have the full picture of his father situation but she saw in live television how his father announced to all of hell and his direct superiors the sins he was the "mastermind" and blitz was only a peon so they should leave him go. To her that knows his father and the imp have a deeper relationship she probably has the assumption he risked his life for an imp and she came in second when he finally asked what would happend to her. Alas, Via is now alone with Stella who Stolas hastes so much and his sissy jack frost copy of an uncle.
@@luhanxavier It wasn't just saving someone, it is willing to get yourself killed if it means for someone else to survive. So yes, Stolas did choose Blitz over Octavia, and it's understandable she doesn't like him for wanting to kill himself for Blitz
@@luhanxavier yes but to her this is just the dude who is taking her dad away and he would have died for that dude permanently leaving via. You cant fault her for getting mad at this she was raised on conditional love thinking its a limited resource you cant share
This answers some questions about Loona's background and her ties to Bee. She comes from the Gluttony ring, she was feasting as her "sin" here.
My personal theory is Millie is so emotional is because she KNOWS Moxxie would want a kid, but she might not, and if he finds out, she'll probably have to break his heart by confessing she didn't want one.
I kinda like that Stolas and Via didn’t get together at the end, relationships take a long time to fix way better than how Chaggie handled it in Hazbin, the girls are disappointed at each other, both go to different leaders, then boom their together again and make up later in THE SAME EPISODE
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It's because their relationship was more healthy and stable than Via And Stolas', so they were able to communicate better with each other
That's hardly a fair comparison.
The situations are very different from each other, and Charlie actually got to talk to someone about her mixed feelings over what she learnt about Vaggie and received some very helpful insight that helped her see Vaggie's side and forgive her for not telling her sooner. Her main problem wasn't so much that Vaggie had been an Exorcist but that she didn't tell her, which to her implied she didn't trust her. But Rosie helped point out why Vaggie may of had a hard time telling the person she loved most about her past.
Octavia has not had such a chance to talk to someone about her feelings and she's shown to be quite a lonely young girl, so obviously she'll be stuck in a negative head space on how to process what she's been learning. And unlike with Charlie and Vaggie, a lot of what Octavia's been figuring out/learning is without the proper context.
@@amedotuniverse652 Exactly, You get it!
Plus, Octavia is only 17. This stuff is very confusing and upsetting when you're still that young.
Yeah but their issue was a lot different and more simple. Charlie was upset that Vaggie didn't tell her about being an Angel (which valid... did you think Princess Sunshine and Rainbows wouldn't be accepting) but Rosie helped her see Vaggie's perspective and still clearly loved her she just needed perspective
Say. Elijah. It’s real tragic Octavia renounced her own father Stolas, but she unfortunately didn’t get the full picture of it. She only assumed things with all the daily drama between her parents, the affair with Blitz, and upon finding her dad’s hidden stash of antidepressants. Hope Octi sees through all the BS her mother’s been spouting.
We’ve already seen families being torn apart before this one in Helluva, like for Blitz and his sister Barb. She wants nothing to do with him, but that I feel is a long shot (compared to Octi) if he ever runs into her again.
I can totally understand Octavias point. Stolas chose to give Blitzø his grimoire, knowing thos is a very illegal act. So he definitely chose to risk potential punishment. Stolas chose to put Blitzø over Octavias safety in this instance. Of course Stolas didn't know what kind of punishment might await him, but he must have known that other Goetia would jump at the chance to get Octavia under their control.
Well Octavia also has a point since Stolas did not hesitate at the moment he sacrificed himself in exchange for saving Blitz, she is still a child who apart from growing up in a dysfunctional family had to endure his parents' fights, and seeing his dad basically chase Blitz 🤷🏻♀️
I wanted to comment about how sad I am, but then I saw LEGO CHARLIE AND ALASTOR IN THE BACKGROUND AND THEY’RE SO CUTE and now I’m happy :)
I’m pretty sure that the reason stolas wasn’t bleeped was because whenever he talked to blitz in season one, he was bleeped whenever he was talking sexual which is what he wasn’t doing at all this episode (or this season)
To be fair to Octavia, we’ve seen twice now where Stolas has put his needs above hers. We have “Loo Loo Land” where he took her out bc it was better than staying in the house and “Seeing Stars” where Stolas was busy dealing with the fallout of the divorce and forgetting about the very important event he promised they’d see together.
I have no doubt that Stolas truly loves her and they have reconciled at the end of both of those times, but she has every right to not trust him. And children of divorce do tend to blame themselves for the misery of their parents, so she’s dealing with these feelings as well.
I do believe these two things can be true at once: Stolas did choose to save Blitz, which was the right thing to do, but he also believed he was going to his death which would mean leaving Octavia behind no matter what.
I do believe she will come around eventually. She’s dealing with these two things pain of the breaking of trust between her and her father, the one who seems to be the only one she could ever turn to when she needed someone.
So I’m not going to say Octavia is being reasonable in her interpretation of Stolas’ behaviour, she’s definitely doing some projection. That being said I think her viewing stolas’ willingness to sacrifice his life for blitz as breaking his promise is a pretty valid. He specifically promised he wouldn’t leave her for blitz, but then he chose to lay down his life for him.
Millie isn’t really upset that she’s pregnant, it’s more like she’s worried about how Moxie will react…especially since it’s so sudden. They aren’t prepared, have no supplies, and nine months can pass by fast.
"Millie isn't really upset she's pregnant"
I'm pretty sure a lot of women would be upset if they unexpectedly got knocked up and they had zero plans on what to do if that ever happened to them. Especially if they never planned or wanted to have kids.
Also Idk if you noticed cause I didn't the first time I watched but Mel used a gun today, cause she probably didn't wanna risk the baby or because she is just too tired
when i heard her say her favorite movie is hercules, i felt that. im a SUCKER for the muses and the songs "gospel truth" and "zero to hero" and.. basically yeah, i love hercules. (fun fact, the muses was one of my childhood crushes i think)
My take on the situation is that Blitz doesn't have a bedroom. It's a one-bedroom apartment, and he gave his bedroom to Loona so she'd have one. He sleeps on the couch. And now, he's given that to Stolas, so he sleeps on the beanbag in the corner, and he seems perfectly content to do that because he's got this through-line to his character of "I will give anything to/for the people I care about and my comfort is secondary." At least... that's the read I've pulled. Which... it's a subtle thing, easily overlooked, but it adds depth to Blitz and it's in line with his protective nature--how he shields Millie, Moxie, and Loona when they're in danger, how he tries to comfort Loona during her doctor visit, and how he protected Fizz when they were young (after the Mammon concert) and again after they reconciled. Blitz is very much a protector, but he just hides it under a thick layer of callous disregard and irreverence. Stolas being in so vulnerable a state has peeled a crapload of that back and it's outstanding to finally see who Blitz is underneath.
The reason Millie was sad was probably because she wasn’t ready for a child yet and/or she’s worried for the baby because she’s and assassin and she does all of these cool tricks and stuff and she’s afraid she will miscarry.
Andrealphus: "Everything you are now..."
Stolas: (punches Andrealphus multiple times)
LOL!!! That was so satisfying to watch!!! I'm not gonna lie!!!!
Can’t really Blame Via.
She’s a Teenager, “Teenager be Teenager’ing” Feelings of Hurt and Betrayal be extra high 💕✨
This was so many emotional swings but I don’t mind, it was a good combo of hit in the Feels and I really dig this whole new Route the show is taking. 😭🎄 💔❤️🩹
Merry SinSMas and happy HOLY’days everyone ✨🎄🔥 😈 😇
Maybe Millie needs some time to figure if she wants to keep the baby or not. Being pregnant can be scary sometimes. I can relate.
I'm so happy that Blitzo decided not to kill the two boyfriends and their kids after picturing himself with Stolas and Octavia and Loona.
Hilarious and satisfying how you immediately concluded Millie was pregnant just on that one scene. Pretty obvious in hindsight but I didn't piece it together before the reveal. Good on ya
Yeah I clocked it the instant she threw up. It's such an overused tv trope, I'm surprised how many people didn't realise until the end.
One detail I like- the theme of when stolas approaches the ice palace was from his lament before confronting stella!
The reasoning behind Blitz's obsession with horses is because the actor who voices Blitz is afraid of horses
The Mammon crown on the tree could be jabbing at how commercialized Christmas is now.
Stolitz is canon! Finally! Now can they please stop this miscommunication angst stuff!
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@@Cosmicsans2517 They need to end the charade of broken hearts!
This must have been the easiest voice episode for Brandon Rogers. Rather than constant energetic yelling, he's mostly soft-spoken and normal sounding.
Blitz is just so SOFT and SWEET with Stolas here! 🥰
The voice actor of Blitz hates horses so Vic made Blitz love them lol
Brandon is actually a fan of mlp-
Noone else I watch has mentioned this yet, but I am sure Blitz's apartment has only one bedroom, which he would definitely have given up for Loona. He only ever slept on the couch, the only other door we have ever seen is to the hallway outside, and the door next to the kitchen is shown to be the bathroom. Then comes the balcony doors and that's it.
Ergo, Blitz has not had his own room since adopting Loona.
This episode really hits home for me. I understand Via's point of view. My parents have been divorced for 22 years (I'm 25, they divorced when I was 3.), and my mom has done everything in her power to ensure that I had a happy life and even tried to have some sort of common ground with my dad, but my dad is a deadbeat, he only wanted to avoid child support and get his part of the money that they invested in the house when they got married. A judge established that my dad had to see me twice a week and spend some vacations with me, but sometimes he stood me up even when I was a child, and when he DID pick me up he would spend every single day talking shit about my mom and when I didn't agree with him he would spit venom against me. Thank god I eventually grew a backbone and I cut him from my life. So I know what it feels like to have one parent DESPERATELY trying to make things right while the other uses you as a means to hurt the other because they are unable to let go and keep living their life and being the child in the middle of this shit show and the awful parent using your insecurities to manipulate you. English isn't my first language, I apologize if I made any mistakes and also, thank you for coming to my ted talk.
This episode was just amazing ❤ my theory on Millie's apprehensive response to her pregnancy is that she might not feel ready for motherhood considering her line of work as an assassin and her love for IMP and she wouldnt be ready to settle down or maybe she might not feel like she would be a good mother , a normal and understandable feeling for moms to be
26:11 girl i think she's more mad about him giving his life for some dude that he knows only for two years at max. stolas wasn't even thinking about Octavia in the court, if satan doesn't speared his life Via would have been left with Stella and andrealphus for eternity, stolas never even thought of that too.her being mad at him is very understandable at least for me.
okay but Stella did the exact same thing. she hire ppl to get stolas murdered and then Octavia will have no father
@thecursedqueen9185 but Octavia doesn't knows that, that's the thing otherwise she would beat the living s**t out of her mother, considering how much powers she has.
@@thecursedqueen9185 okay??? Octavia doesn't know Stella was the one who hired striker. Hell, Stolas was so absent in Octavias life I don't think she even knew he was in the hospital.
YES THIS. I feel for Octavia. I'm at least glad Stolas now understands he's not a great dad.
This! The dude literally choose to die for his dwarf instead of living for his daughter, but of course Vivzi will find tons of excuses for him through other character's mouth. Especially my favorite type of excuse for Stolas "You don't understand, I'm a sad uwu avian with trauma and daddy issues, which means that i can't make mistakes and can't have flaws. I'm perfect and should be loved by everyone."
Also, if y'all didn't know, owls have a good sense to know when someone is pregnant, and when Moxxie and Millie were play fighting, you could see the worried look on Stolas face, bc he knew that Millie was pregnant! (But I'm not sure if she's knows yet... Until she took a pregnancy test later on)
It’s just celebrating their birth sin or any sin loona is gluttony, blitz, moxie, and Millie represent wrath, verosica would represent lust.
My guess why Millie is conflicted about being pregnant: I think she and Moxxie agreed to have a childfree marriage. Considering Moxxies upbringing, I'm can imagine him not wanting to have children. He either thinks he will be a terrible dad because the only dad he knew was terrible. Or he thinks the world is simply too cruel to children, so the best thing to do is not bring children into the world so they won't experience what he has experienced.
Millie, on the other hand, comes from a big happy family, and she sure wants the child now that it's on its way. Now she's afraid of Moxxies' reaction.
(Another theory I heard is that the child might not be Moxxies. That's why Millie wanted to kill the target. She was projecting her own selfhate because she cheated. I see the argument, but I don't think they would do this to M&M)
I honestly think Blitzø is right, that Octavia just needs some time. Living full time with her mother she might realize just how abusive Stella was to Stolas, or either that might regret shutting him out and want to hear his side of the story. Only time will tell if she comes around.
I think the thing between Octavia and Stolas during this episode isn't about the divorcee, or even about how Stolas and Stella are treating her. I feel like she just feels ultimately betrayed by her father choosing Blitz over her. That probably seems very irrational, and it is. But Octavia is still a child, late teens if I remember right. But she hasn't, as far as I know experienced love and loss outside of her family at this point. the only "friend" we've ever seen her make was technically Loona. So the only two anchors in her life have been her parents, no matter how good or bad they are to her. After feeling betrayed by her father, the mother was the only one who "chose" her. We know thats bullshit, but again she's a child and now she'll be clinging on to the last anchor she has in her life. Sadly I think theres going to be a point were Octavia realizes that her mother only "chose" her to steal from and punish her father and doesn't give a shit about her will shatter whats left of Octavia's spirit. I will give her character props though, the imagery during her song shows that she sees Blitz as the one that "took" her father away, but she still seems reasonable enough to not directly blame blitz.
On a side note, I've been listening to many of Vivzi and crew's pod casts and interviews for background noise while I work. While I doubt it's the only reason for Blitz's horse obsession, apparently Brandon Rodgers (Blitz's voice actor) doesn't like horses. The word that was used in the interview was "hates" horses, so it's kinda a running joke to make Brandon to constantly say/show as blitz how much he LOVES horses! Unfortunately I listened to so many of them back to back I don't think I could accurately tell you what interviews/podcasts I was listening to for that particular tid bit, otherwise I would post a link to it here. Thought it was just a funny bit between the cast.
Ngl, I’ve been waiting for Octavia to sing because she is voiced by Barrett Wilbert Weed. She’s played some great roles in theatre, like Veronica in Heathers and Janis in Mean Girls
I can’t believe Octavia abandoned Stoles, Stolas went FULL HOOD, Millie is pregnant and Loona leveled up again🙏❤️
I wasn’t prepared at all!
This episode truly broke my heart and yet made me so happy to finally see Stolas and Blitz actually together!
Hope you have an amazing Christmas!