My little brother ran into Becky Hammon at our local YMCA in Rapid City where she is from, and was just starting out her WNBA career. She agreed to play a 3 on 3 game against him and some other guys. My brother at the time was a 5’7” sophomore who couldn’t even start on the varsity ball team. He went on to defend her pretty well and even blocked her shot which he still brings up to this day. Lol.
Yeah played her and a giant lesbian who power fouled be so hard black dudes from the gym upstairs at CSU came down to laugh at me but she's like a small unathletic guy who can shoot people don't get the difference if they don't play
It says everything about what the WNBA (and all nonsense like it) is for. It's not for the love of the game or to host elite talent, it's equity space. Malcontents can't stand how certain demographics succeed and they demand redistribution. The NBA bleeds money to provide this space for a political statement.
@@BEARFish-yr1ob I could certainly respect that, I also understand that Gray doesn't speak for the entire WNBA but she is one of the more high profile players in the league. If they wanted to stay out of competing against the high school boys team, it probably wasn't the greatest idea to respond to Travis's tweet in the first place. Especially with the one word response "dumbass". That's just going to stoke the fire!
It would get more viewers then the league has ever played in front of! Period! Just take a look at this seasons opening night attendance figures! That may have had 43 maybe 44 million paying customers since 1997. Pay per-view could generate maybe a quarter of a billion people watching this! Just to prove once and for all men have ZERO BUSINESS DIRECTLY COMPETING AGAINST FEMALES! You’re not going to get a Female basketball players standing 6-9 and weighing 250 lbs moving as, gracefully as these high school kids do! It will make money for whoever it’s intended to go to but it will destroy the woke agenda when it comes to equality of the sexes! The high school team by 50 in a cake walk! The only way it’s a closer game is they are told to keep it close!
I could dunk as a sophomore in high school and was blocking shots off the boards and I wasn't even the most athletic dude on my team. When I was in college at a D-1 Big Ten school, me and my stoner freshman friends who all played basketball in HS ran into some of the girls on the basketball team at the rec center and we ran them off the court. We were just too fast, strong, and athletic for them. Yes they were skilled but the overwhelming athletic advantage we had over them made up for it in spades. It's hard to score when you can't get a shot off cause your opponent is taller, quickier, and can easily out jump you. It ain't sexism it is just biology. Any one that thinks the WNBA team has a chance against a good high school boys team...is either lying for feminist brownie points or never seriously played basketball.
100%. I'm curious if the girls were hostile to you guys like an experience we had. My HS teammates played the Stanford women's team who had the #3 pick Nicole Powell when we were going into senior year. They were actually kind of being dicks, acting like they were too good for us (even as we were smoking them) - almost hostile. I'm curious if the girls you played acted the same. Maybe it was cuz we were HS boys and they were college girls but that didn't feel like the vibe - it felt "hoops ego" based.
@@clapdrix72 My experience was at Ohio State. It was after a Friday night of drinking too. People talk about how much skill the women have, but skill had nothing to do with it. Their skill couldn't stop us on offense because of biology. It was too easy to shoot over, drive through, post up, and offensive rebound that we started goofying off. I remember one girl took a charge on me and I just ran through her and didn't feel it. Then on defense with ladies having a lower release point for a shot, we blocked so many of their layups. But similar to you they were all cocky at 1st, but after that we never saw them back at that rec center.
Yeah, there are sports that are great for women's physiques, like gymnastics, but at basketball it's kind of shocking how much of an advantage you have over them. Once you see where they release their shot (very very low, low height plus no jump etc) and the rate at which they move (NOT fast), you basically go easy on them unless you're crazy for some reason.
@@EGarrett01 Actually ironic you mention gymnastics... check out videos of male gymnasts doing the female skill events. A couple of former female Olympic gymnasts were watching clips and reacting and their reaction says it all. Basically, if the competition is physically based on strength, speed, size, and flexibility the males have the advantage. Now make it purely skill and eye-hand coordination and the scales even up almost immediately. Take something like darts, pool, bowling, etc. and it becomes a much more even matchup.
@@guiwhiz Gymnastics isn't based on size or speed, and the strength required scales in proportion to weight. Flexibility is also much closer between women and men. And since the sport is about individual routines, grace etc and not direct physical confrontation, it fits more with women's natural inclinations. There's other activities where women are actually better than men. Like long-range shooting. But basketball, football etc are definitely not those activities.
I would take all of my life savings, my family's life savings, my friends life savings, and bet it on the HS boys team, and I will forever be getting the utmost gratitude of these people.
@@TrueSkullLeader wait. You mean the feminist wont bet on their equality idea? I was hoping for those radical feminist to bet too to shut us up thinking they will this. 🤷♂️lol
Note that Bobby Riggs was 55 when he played and narrowly lost to Billy Jean King who was 29 at the time. She won 6-4, 6-3, 6-3. If she had played against Stan Smith, Arthur Ashe, or Tom Gorman she would have gotten SMOKED. She was playing a retired dude who was 26 years older than her.
But Bobby Riggs beat some other girl, number one player right before that Virginia Wade(?) Edit: To the ~30 people on this thread who don’t read I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court
A buddy of mine was dating a WNBA player for a while. She came to our Tuesday night men's run and played with us a few times. She was average in that group. In other words, a WNBA player (top few hundred in the world) is no better than the guys at your local random gym. No knock on her either, she was one of the best women ballers I've ever seen in person and the fact that she hung with the guys was impressive.
I've played with some top level D-1 women's basketball players. Frankly, they are good enough to play pickup basketball with the dudes I play with. Happy to have them show up, and play. They are good. But the top 5 dudes in our 30s can compete at the women's D1 level. It's wildly lopsided.
The UK side that smashed the US women’s soccer team wasn’t a professional side, it was a mixture of older retired players & some current players who were in lower leagues etc. Lee Trundle (who scored 4 of the goals for the men’s side) was 46 years old & would freely admit was well past his best - by about two decades! He was a great goal scorer in his professional playing days though, & even though heavier, slower & less mobile he still showed the ladies how it should be done! Well played Lee👍.
It wouldn't surprise me if the boys won for basketball. Of all the sports Basketball is probably the most pointlessly biased to a male body type. It's like if someone made a game where you need to be small and crawl through holes on the ground. Soccer or running is a better comparison. But even so, most of the people on the internet living vicariously through the gender of professional athletes are fucking losers either way.
The game was a joke. Men were leisurely standing a walking while ONE player was dribbling and scoring. That’s NOT how real game is played. Soccer is TEAM sport and in a real adult game ENTIRE female team would be INJURED just from body to body contact and goalkeeper would be injured just from men’s bullet shots to the face
@@paulscottrobsonI'd say he was a great goalscorer for the level. Put in 20+ league goals, 25-30 all comps a season at Swansea for half a decade or so.
In highschool, our girls team were state champions with 3 girls eventually playing D1 and going on to the wnba. I was a freshman and on the boys freshman basketball team. Our coach was the girls assistant coach, so they would use us to practice plays and scrimmage against. Our freshman team didn't win a game all season, but we were undefeated in practice, lol.
As a longtime basketball ref and head coach of both boys and girls high school teams I can wholeheartedly attest that the disparity of talent between the boys and girls is deep - abyss deep. So much so that if the undefeated Class A 20-0 girls champion played the 0-20 Class D bottom feeder boys team, the boys would win a a rout. In other words, the worst boys team would still easily beat the best girls team each and every time. Just the way it is, and the WNBA needs to come to grips with this reality. Doesn't mean the girls can't compete against each other and enjoy what sports afford those who play, again, just the way it is.
I was a 6th man on a D3 college team a few decades ago. Nothing special. The girl's team had a player who was All NY State and an alternate on the Olympic team. She was a very good player and averaged nearly 20 points a game. One evening after our practice she challenged me to a friendly one-on-one game. I confess that I played hard against her and won 11 baskets to one or two. She couldn't get off a shot and couldn't believe the difference from playing against the girls.
Love that you played hard tbh. Wish my daughters wanted to play basketball.. I used to tell my wife the only people they would play against are boys. Nothing like a little exposure therapy. Also kinda reminds me of how the youngest boy in a family is usually the most athletic because he's been bullied growing up by the older siblings 😂 we see that all the time.
If you played D3 and got time, you are actually probably pretty awesome. I gave my life to basketball as a young player, and got some interest in community colleges and one D3 school. I tried to walk on at a D1 school.
i was a benchrider on my jv team, got cut from varsity. but i beat our #1 girls varsity player easily and lazily. she went to pepperdine on a scholarship and it was an easy win for me
same here. my JV team in highschool scrimmaged the varsity girls. they were cocky and one of the best teams in the state. well, they couldn't even score against us. never heard a peep from them after. there is no doubt a highschool all star team would destroy WNBA champion teams.@@bg710
@brooklynborn83I cannot speak to whether your comment about Brittney is correct with respect to the guy who played D3. I can say that I never played organized basketball and I would crush Griner - one on one, or whatever. I watch all of this talk about it being sexist to recognize physical differences and then the men who compete as girls to win state championships and I tell people that if the WNBA had open tryouts, I would go in and win myself a scoring title. Bearded up and all - like “you can’t discriminate against me for my identity. Crossover! Fadeaway to half court: bucket! It’s not my fault that they don’t practice as hard as I do.
In 1988, Olympian Florence Griffith-Joyner set a record in the Women’s 100m at 10.49, a record that has stood for 35 years. Every year since, 20 to 30+ U.S. High School boys run it faster.
That record was also set during a time when doping was EXTREMELY common and overlooked. The 80s female records have stood for a reason, and NO FEMALE have come even close to it since because of the dope testing done today.
And that time by Joyner occured with a broken wind measuring instrument on a day everyone knew had wind exceeding what was allowed. The record is actually 10.54
When you know he's right have no intelligent response... dumbass is easy to say. What she should have said was that she acknowledges this to be true. Any game would be for fun and to raise money for the boys schools. I'll pay to watch this game.
Any remotely decent HS boys team is destroying any wnba team or wnba all star team. Faster, stronger, mostly taller, quicker, and most important can jump far far higher. Hell I’d put my money on some middle school teams I’ve seen play. Only thing I’d be worried about is the mob getting the guys to throw the game for a bigger payday.
He would punish those woman fa real, Britnee Griner is the only woman that can contest some of his shots but Cooper still would posterize her, I’d pay to see it fa real
If I recall, the tennis match between King and Riggs was not on a level playing field. I believe that Riggs only had one serve while King got two. I also think that he could only use the singles court while she used the doubles court. Not to mention that he was 55 years old. I don’t hear anyone mention these facts.
And it was 100% rigged. And here is where my many powerscaling battles come in handy: Serena and Venus Williams >>>>>> King all day everyday as they were #1 and #2 in their primes. The ranked #250 male player crawled out of bed, slammed some brewskies, and DESTROYED BOTH OF THEM BACK TO BACK WITH NO BREAK IN BETWEEN Then homie was clearly UI Shaggy's ancestor cause he said he was barely going half-speed. There is zero change of King v Riggs not being hella rigged lol
Back in the 90’s me and a few guys who played ball in high school put together a college rec league team. The D1 women’s team was playing pickup and asked us to scrimmage with them. They were really good and skilled but we still beat them 12-10, 12-9 and 12-10. They were taller too but even at 6’4” our tallest players at 6’ would out rebound them. Basketball is not a fair sport for women to compete against men. Men have too many physical advantages that skill and even height can’t overcome. I say this though, they were more skilled than us and used set plays for easy buckets. We won on fast break points just because we were faster.
Jalen Suggs is on the Magic. Chet Holmgren is on the Thunder. They were both on the same High School Team up in Minnesota. They won their school level state Tourny 3 years in a row.(AAA) They were beat by teams a Level up back then also.(AAAA) They weren't even the BEST TEAM in Minnesota!! Good Luck WNBA. You will get destroyed.
It would definitely increase the respect for the WNBA if they kept it close and played well. They would low key have to drop it to middle school for it to be competitive.
Nah middle-school wouldn't be competitive at all. The boys wouldn't have hit puberty yet for the most part. That is when the biological differences really kick in.
I usually roll my eyes whenever someone says a game is rigged. But if there were ever a game that had the potential to be rigged, it would be this one. The amount of money the books could win by having the boys throw the game would be astronomical.
@@contumelious-8440 actually the reason the Olympics didn't allow professional players is because they can and are rigged and the WWF admitted that their matches are rigged because they got tired of dealing with the athletic commission's
In 1996, the national, Under 14 Boys Champions, Jamaica College (High School) team played the national womens' team. It became a wrestling match. They grabbed, pulled, pushed and slapped us, because they couldn't stop us from scoring and couldn't score against us. We were a bit OP for a team full of 14 year olds. Our starting 5 went like this: C was a monsterous 6'5", PG was a towering 5'7", SG 5'9", me at SF measuring 5'11" and the PF as a massive 6'2". We were up 40 by the half.
There's no doubt. In HS 4 of my teammates and I played the Stanford women's bball team in pick up and absolutely smoked them. They had Nicole Powell who was the #3 pick in the 2004 WNBA draft. I mean no disrespect but it was like playing 8th-9th grade boys. We were even using a women's ball so we shot everything long. The difference in strength and athleticism makes it unfair. We actually left early cuz it wasn't really fun, especially with the girls ball. Tbh, they were kind of being dicks too, like they were too good for us cuz they were D1 players - really unfriendly, almost hostile... so we didn't hold back at all. Two of my teammates played D2 but were well under 6' and I was 3rd best as an above avg 6'2" HS player. By no means were any of us blue chips - our team was ranked somewhere in the 30s or 40s in CA I think.
@@njdrive5165Nope, it's absolutely, definitely true. My coach from Stanford bball summer camp I kept in touch with was a development coach for the girls, or something like that, and he invited me and I brought my PG, Ryan Cooper, and PG from my old HS, Alan Iida, who both played D2 at Notre Dame de Namur in 2006-2008 or so. We got there a little late, played like 2 games and bounced to a pickup game at Piedmont, our HS.
@@RobertCarnevale-qr5ey😂😂 they definitely did him dirty here! All the dudes were paintin they hair back on in the 2010s-2015s before the implant locks lol
Nope. Wouldn't be a height or weight advantage and with quite a few of the boys just barely into puberty their muscle-mass strength per pound wouldn't be developed yet. Could a truly elite 13u AAU team give a WNBA team a competitive game? Yeah probably. Win say 3 out of 5... probably not. You forget a typical WNBA Center is 6'4+ and over 200lbs. Not a lot of 8th graders who are remotely athletic can match up with that. Two years later... yeah my son's 16u AAU Elite team would almost certainly beat a WNBA team 4 out of 5.
Possibly. My 8th grade 6'1 guard/forward son has been playing competitive men's pick up games against the best in my city for the past year. Add a team of players with his skill/abilities then yeah they can win.
I think it needs to happen. It will either validate them and increase viewership. Or it will humble some of them enough to make changes to the league to increase excitement.
@@nbagoats4819 No. You make the court smaller to increase the pace at which the ladies can get up and down the court, you lower the hoop to make the dunk a viable scoring option for a majority of WNBA players, and you make the free throw and three-point lines closer to maintain proportions on the smaller court. These changes will lead to an increase in the pace of play, an increase in exciting plays, and an increase in overall scoring.
My son was invited to practice with the local WNBA team because his high school teammate's dad was the head coach. My son said he and his friend were told not to steal the ball, block shots, or play too aggressively. (I understand the prohibition to not play aggressively, because the women could get hurt.) He said he was surprised at how smart the women played. They played better team basketball than most high school boy's teams. He was also surprised at how physical they were (e.g., setting screens, fighting through screens, holding their ground, etc.) and how well they could shoot. That being said, he did say he could pretty much drive at will, and none of the women could get around him. He also said he could have blocked plenty of shots if he tried, as the women don't really shoot jump shots. My son was just an All-district player--not All-state. His team won District, not Area, Region, or State. If my son could compete with the WNBA team (WITH RESTRICTIONS), there is no doubt in my mind that a state championship boy's team would entirely obliterate a WNBA team--I don't care if that boy's team were from Idaho or South Dakota, much less California, New York, or Texas.
Not to diminish what you wrote but the whole topic is a waste of time. It's obvious that women can't compete against men in sports that require strength and speed. Chelsea Gray called Clay Travis a dumbass as an attempt at damage control.
@@tanjajohnson4659 I have, the WNBA champions, Storm. It's definitely slower than my HS varsity team and maybe about like our JV team speed. It's been a while so might be off on that but in 9th grade we were all about blocking shots, rebounding hard, dunking girls' balls and could alley oop dunk men's, which is another thing not being mentioned here. Would the men vs women use men's ball or women's? If men's, that's another disadvantage for the women.
@@ocd000 I took my daughter to a WMBA game, and it looked like a bunch of little kids out there. There were 26 TWENTY SIX missed layups BREAKAWAY LAYUPS ! ! ! On the way home, she told me that she never wanted to go to a WNBA game again, she still loves NBA games and we go to them regularly. But it was embarrassing to watch them. I believe my firm's over 40 team could beat any WNBA team.
The explosiveness of a good high school basketball player would be the only real important factor. I'm 6'2" and 215, not exactly prime DRose getting to the basket, but even I could blow by anybody in the WNBA. The WNBA girls look like they're running through quicksand. An actual good athlete would make them look like statues.
In 1992, Jimmy Connors soundly beat Martina Navratilova in straight sets in a "Battle of Champions" - despite giving up the two doubles lanes and his second serve. This is a match you don't hear about. You only hear about the close match between Billy Jean King and 55-year-old Bobby Riggs. Funny about a piece of history disappearing down the rabbit hole.
There was also the guy who played against Williams sisters, he played one set against each, and he was like rank 700 on ATP list, literally smoking cigarettes before the match. He smashed them both.
Riggs was, by that time, reduced to hustling to make money at tennis. I think he was expecting a re-match, and maybe, a series of matches, so, he threw the game. Too bad for him, nothing else came of it...
It wasn’t abt that it was getting rid of that guys ego after his statement. He said he could win, BJK wasn’t trying to prove she was as good as the best men in the world, just that she could beat that guy’s arrogant ass
@@carolinec4289 A few months before that match, Riggs demolished then number 1 womens player Margaret Court in The Mother's Day Massacre. Many historians now believe Riggs threw the match against King to pay of gambling debts.
@@carolinec4289 Again you fail to realize that Riggs was just acting for the cameras in order to hype this inane "Battle of the Sexes" nonsense. Riggs could be equated to those WWE wrestlers talking smack before a big match to garner interest in a fake matchup.
What about the Brazilian women's national football team? At the time (2021), they had the best player in the world, Marta, and they played against Grêmio's U16 men's team-and lost 6-0.
I’m was a 5’5” starting point guard for the “B” team my freshman year. During a pick up game with my freshman team at the high school gym at night, the starting varsity girls wanted to challenge us. We decided to give ourselves a handicap by making the guards the center and forwards, and the center and forwards play nothing but the perimeter. I out rebounded, out shot, and out muscled the entire team by myself in the paint. You can see their heads spinning because they couldn’t understand how I kept blocking their shots.
I never played orginanized basketball. Played some pick up games. The girls college team was in the gym & I had to guard their best player. She never scored or even got the ball. I also like you even being a skinny guy (5'10" 145 lbs) was able to out muscle & rebound their top rebounder who was 6'3" tall. I was quick & could really jump. I also could run all day long. I have to say I enjoyed bodying a few of those female players & this was back in the 1980's. They had 3 that were smoking hot.
In the mid 80’s for two years I dated the #1 girls basketball high school prospect in the US, a 6’1” center with great abilities. Got a full scholarship to Stanford, played professionally in Europe before the WNBA. I couldn’t make my high school team, but at 6’3” I never lost to her one on one. People enjoy women’s basketball to see the game played on the ground, with positioning, passing and shooting as a priority, not world-class speed and aerial athleticism. They are playing the same game but the men can play it entirely above the rim. This is like a football team playing another where one is not allowed to pass. They would be destroyed. Clay is right.
In 1996 at Ohio State, I was a freshman playing pickup at Larkins Hall when Katie Smith showed up to play. She’s 8th all-time scorer for WNBA. She had two Columbus Quest teammates with her who was the professional team at that time (long defunct). I guarded her and she was running around double screens set by her teammates to get looks. She scored twice, I scored twice, blocked her shot once, and we won the game. The best part though is when someone threw a half-court pass, we both went for it and I knocked her down! I was nervous since I thought I injured her! I offered my hand to help her up and she got up on her own power and shoulder blasted me! I immediately looked at my friends with wide eyes and we all just busted out laughing! We couldn’t believe we were just some high school varsity washups and beat Ohio’s all-time woman leading scorer and her professional teammates. She won 3 Olympic golds and entered the HOF. Women play with a smaller ball and she wouldn’t even sniff the bench if she played for the OSU men’s team. It’s the same game but a completely different sport.
@@PreferredCustomer not sure if you’re agreeing or not; I argue anyone will get better by training with people who are better in any discipline like music or sports. But women will never catch up to men athletically and that’s the point I’m making.
Who are you arguing that point to? I think most people would agree that most men naturally grow differently than most women as the females of our species must grow a body which is able to grow and nurture and bear a human fetus/baby life. So until men are capable of growing a human being and successfully expelling 8-10 pounds of baby out of their downstairs hole… I remain unimpressed that men may be able to put a ball into a bigger round hole with greater ease than most women. Very stupid point to make, man. At least be original and argue something interesting and less overdone.
For some reason, women can't jump like men can. No cut on women.... It's just the way it is. Its why there's almost zero dunking in the WNBA. They play a ground game. Men, doesn't depend on the level...high school and above, play an air game...above the rim. Women are below the rim.
@@KOrnhOliO1 same reason men run faster and lift higher weights; muscles therefore strength. The men can generate more concentric velocity with their bodies that enables lift.
That Bobby Riggs match was about as real as a pro wrestling match. He absolutely threw that match. Even at 55, he would have beat her if he really tried.
Just so you know, that wasn’t Wrexham’s professional team. It was a mix of retired and current players and it was first to 12. If it had gone 90 minutes it would have been far worse.
I don't truly believe most WNBA players think they could play with elite male players. When it comes to demanding more money (which their sport doesn't produce) some profess to be the same talent level as NBA players. When I see any competition between a WNBA player and a man, it's usually a man who is much younger or older or shorter or way less talented (like me) or employeed by the WNBA team to assure a victory. Then they say that uneven contest proves their point. I've NEVER seen them play a current or past NBA player.
If memory serves me correctly, in that tennis match between King and Riggs, they allowed King to hit the ball in the alleys while Riggs couldn't. In other words, the rules were changed so King, in her prime, could beat a 55 year old Riggs.
Incorrect. The match between King and Riggs (officially known as Battle of the Sexes II) did _not_ have a handicap for Riggs (AKA "hybrid rules"). The Battle of the Sexes III match in 1992 between Martina Navratilova and Bobby Connors _did_ have hybrid rules, where Connors was allowed only one serve per point, and Navratilova was allowed to hit into half of the doubles alleys. And earlier than either of those, in a 1975 series of matchups in various sports (known as the _Challenge_ of the Sexes [emphasis mine]), the tennis event featuring Virginia Wade vs. Björn Borg, and Ilie Nastase vs. Evonne Goolagong had similar hybrid rules. But hey, I'm sure that next you'll come up with some other excuse for Riggs losing. Anything to avoid admitting even the possibility that women could ever compete with men, right?
@@DekkerDekker I wasn't making an excuse. I simply remembered there being some "hybrid" rules for those types of matches. That being said, if women can compete with men in tennis, why did they need to implement hybrid rules.
@@DekkerDekkerThey'd kill us at washing socks every time...that is...unless we decided to get good at it. That what's happened when we decided to start cooking, anyway. Then maybe single stocks would quit disappearing.
7:01 😂 why is Carlos Boozer’s two night hair transformation currently the most replayed moment of this video? 😂😂😅 why did I realize this as I kept rewinding the clip to get a good look at how bald he became (or how much Bigen he sported two nights prior)? 😂😂😂
Something similar to this happened in the early 2000s when the USA Women’s Hockey Team played a boys high school team from a small town in northern Minnesota called Warroad and lost.
The fact is that the boys team wouldn't even have to be an elite squad. If you put the WNBA champions in just about any urban or suburban high school conference for a season, there's a pretty good chance that they would finish last.
When I was in high school, I played in co-ed pick-up games with WNBA plays, and I can say from experience that, a talented AAU team of middle school boys will give a WNBA team problems. A good high school team of boys would definitely dominate against the best WNBA teams.
@@mellamodiego8458 you are wrong. Kobe and LeBron played right out of high school. High school boys state championship teams ALL have 1 or 2 boys on their team just like that. They would score 88 point a night against any pro girls' team and the girls couldn't do anything about it.
Same, when I was 12 years old, the kids on my block played the girls high school team, they were ranked 3rd in the state of NJ that year. We absolutely demolished them.
The Bobby Riggs match: he was up until 4am the morning before the match-up at a party, and had also soundly beaten Margret Court, a much better player than King, 6 or 12 months earlier; but they never remember any of that.
When we were 8th graders, we took on the high school girls in a scrimmage. They were 3rd place in the state that year and we were a middling team. It was something like 47 to 4 before they stopped it. They could barely get past half court against the press.
@@CactusboxesNo he's not lying, our girls Varsity team had 3 future pro players including a girl who won a chip with the Detroit Shock. Our 9th grade team scrimmaged them and they couldn't get the ball past half court. Their coach got mad and broke the clipboard and stopped the Massacre.
@@CactusboxesYou cannot be a real baller. The speed and athletic difference is too much. We used to dunk on pro womens players for fun. Run n Shoot. Teresa Edwards and Townnda Mcdonald used to hoop and get mad when we dunked on them and I was only a 5'10 Freshman
I went to a very small high school (roughly 400 students in grades 9 - 12) that has won a total of two state championships in about 60 years of existence; one in football and one in softball. ONE basketball team has made it to the semi-state round of the playoffs: the boys' team sometime in the 1960s. One girl (a year ahead of me) on the basketball team earned a scholarship to play for a D1 school (where she won a national title), was a top 5 pick in the WNBA draft and played 13 seasons (winning two championships), and won a gold medal at the 2004 Olympics as part of Team USA. She was a two time All American, Big East Player of the Year once, Big East Defensive Player of the Year three times, _Sports Illustrated_ Player of the Year once, and WNBA Finals MVP once. Her senior year of high school, I personally witnessed her losing 1-on-1 to a sophomore on the boy's team who was nearly 7 inches shorter than her and who ended up being a backup on a D3 college basketball team for a school with roughly 2200 students...and it wasn't even close. So, yeah...there's no chance a WNBA championship team could beat a top-tier high school boys' state championship team. I'd be surprised if the WNBA championship team could beat pretty much _ANY_ high school boys state championship team.
I agree. My school were basketball 2022-23 season state champs, winning by about a 20 point margin in the finals game, so I feel pretty confident they could beat a WNBA team.
She probably thinks she's something special, too. In a year or two, we'll see her, crushed ego, getting arrested for DUI after a box of wine, and an attempted drive home to her cats. Do you know ANY happily married WNBA alums? I mean "marriage" in the traditional, American, sense.
One-on-one isn't the same as five-on-five . In one-on-one competition, physical sex differences are much more significant. It's not a given that a male HS team would beat a WNBA team. Skill and IQ differences would heavily favor the WNBA team.
@@AfricanThinker86 The high school team of boys would be much stronger, bigger, much faster, have quicker reaction times, jump higher, and top teams have just as much IQ and skill.....if not more. Top high school boys teams are no joke.....and would smoke any WNBA team, easily.
I have coached both boys and girls HS varsity. I also played professionally, and had the luxury of playing against the women's team at my university (a Power 5 school). My take is this: women need to stop taking this as a personal insult. They are incredible players, but there is a reality to things. As a 5-9 point guard, I was an incredible player. But every level I stepped up, IN COMPARISON to the average player at that level, the results of my play diminished exponentially. It wasn't because I was not great. It was because my physical limitations caused enough issue that players of even lesser skill but greater physical attribute, were able to surpass my production. It is what it is. I have had 6 state championship level teams (played for 6) and could tell you that all of those teams would beat a WNBA team. No doubt. But I have had good teams that lost in playoffs that could not beat them. In AZ, last year's champ, Perry, featured Koa Peat and Cody Williams. There is not a single WBNA player that could guard either of those players, nor would they be able to score on them. Not a chance. ZERO.
Women aren’t taking it personally. It’s weird that women just want to play basketball against other women and men constantly take that as an opportunity to compare the women to men. Like most women are just minding their business doing what they love and aren’t even trying to play against men. Men are the ones fantasizing about putting women in “their place”.
When I was in 8th grade we scrimmaged against University of Illinois women's basketball team. We werent even the best in our division, and we beat them by 25 points.
Similar story, when I was in high school I played my freshman year. We scrimmaged against eventual national champions Tennessee, with Candace Parker, Alexis Hornbuckle and the rest. This was the freshman team, not varsity, not junior varsity. It was the easiest game I've ever been a part of. We smoked them handily.
We've all got stories like this. I went to UCONN and we played against their champs often. Breanna Stewart is the closest to 'playing like a man' of anyone. She was still not that good. We all could play above or near the rim. None of them can. @@vicyclopsrho8450
Confession time: My 8th grade boys basketball team lost a scrimmage game to the... varsity girls team. We were far too enamored with their boobs to really compete. We just wanted them to post us up and try backing us down into the paint. Our biggest concerns was who we would get to guard. For some reason we thought that we had a chance for a date afterwards. We went like 5-15 on the season and they were in the state final four.
My sophomore year, our b team basketball varsity (which I was on at the time) scrimmaged the starting varsity basketball girls team. We beat them by 30 and held them to under 10 points in the first half. That same basketball girls team went on to win state and go undefeated in the process. Our starting varsity basketball team didn’t even make the playoffs.
The men shown from 2:30 to 2:50 are quite the specimens, aren't they? So alpha and dominant.... at spilling cheap beer on themselves. So much facepalm.
I'm 6'3 and only played basketball my freshman year of high school (mostly played volleyball and I rode the bench for basketball lol) so I'm not much of a hooper but I am athletic. Freshman year of college during a pick-up game I ended up playing against a girl that was a former mcdonalds all-american and current D1 player at the time (her teammate who was also D1 was on her pick-up team as well), and although she was very good, my natural athleticism was more than enough to physically dominate her on the court. Now when I look at a team full of actual D1/NBA prospects , there's no way I see them losing to any womens team ever
As a varsity bench warmer on a no name school, I was on the practice squad for the women’s team at Miami University, in Oxford, Ohio, (which happens to be a D1 school). The coaches were telling me not to go too hard cuz I was getting too many steals, deflections, blocks, etc. I was like 6’3” 190 at the time so not even physically super big or dominant by any means.
I can tell you at 3 24-hr fitness courts in my area, I've encountered at least 20-30 juco/D2/D3/and even high school ballers that are very good (numbers are actually higher). cherry pick any 7-12 of those ballers to fill all positions with a solid bench and they can WHOOP any WNBA team.
@@AnHebrewChild fuck man... have the women load their team with WNBA all stars or 2024 WNBA champs play a loaded team of juco/D2/D3/ high school ballers. same results.. men (or boys lol) win.
A good friend of mine (we both played basketball many years) once told me a story of a WNBA team wanted to play a pickup game against men. The men were of HS and JC experience and couldn’t be taller than 6’. The coach of the team asked the men to “stop blocking shots” when the score got to 45-0.
@@billprezioso3677 it might have been both but it was definitely Martina. It’s in an interview from 1985. She said her tennis coach routinely beat her. She said she had a chance against a guy she named who was a solder hitter but a better player than a lesser male player who could serve hard. She said returning that serve would be very difficult for a woman
When I was in the 8th grade, our high school varsity girls' team wanted to play against us and talked trash about how they would beat us. They were a solid team, having gone 14-6 in the regular season. We tripled their score, winning 86 to 28. It would likely be much worse than this.
The Bobby Riggs tennis match was not a real match. He was 55 years old and was in dept to his bookies. He threw the match to get from under his gambling bets. Jimmy Conners who was also old played Martina Navratilova and smoked her even with only being given 1 serve while Martina had 2 and Jimmy had to play with doubles court while Martina played single.
The college my dad worked at used to have a “staff vs women’s team” match. The faculty wiped the floor with them so bad every single time they stopped doing it. Like. 50 year old dads literally and figuratively dunking on those women. Their games were fun to watch, great fundamentals and coaching, but like others said, I would bet everything I have on those HS boys if that game ever happened.
I think that's a little exaggeration....50 year old dads??? Maybe 30ish year old dads. I ca. Think of four 50 year Olds who I've seen dunk. Wilt. Jordan. Dominique...Shaq
@@Shawn-ho6deI still play ball (almost 60), and, yes, we have had dudes come in at 50+ and dunk. Maybe not like they did in high school or as young adults, but they could still dunk. I could grab the rim until a few years ago (knees caught up with me). And I'm nobody compared to some of the folks who have shown up.
@georgeklimes7604 I am very impressed. I think that is amazing to see someone dunking at 50. That is cool to hear you have friends that can still do that.
When I was in Jr High, the girls basketball team practiced during 5th period. My PE was at 5th period. We played two exhibition games against the girls basketball team. They play very mechanical. That being said, I think a decent males high-school varsity basketball team could beat an WNBA team. I'll go to extremes that a men's pickup basketball team could beat most mid-major D1 girls college basketball programs.
In my sophomore year of high school, our Colorado state championship team's starting lineup was taller than the Denver Nuggets starting team that year.
Everyone knows Riggs threw that game cause he had gambling problems. The only thing you have to do is make sure the boys don't throw it and aren't too embarrassed to destroy the women that they coast and take it easy.
She was also like still in her prime playing days and he was well out of his, by like 20 yrs. An inverse of that was the williams sisters-Karsten Brasch debacle; they claimed they could beat any male player outside the top 200, so Brasch took the challenge as the 203rd ranked player, and smoked Venus 6-2 and Serena 6-1, at 31 yrs old. Female professional athletes perform at slightly below high school boys level, and it's not a crazy thing for people that watch sports to understand.
@@jacksondolly3248 That's another fact I often forget that isn't spoken of. From the old footage she looks as old or older than him but he was way past expiration. The thing that makes the Williams crap more infuriating is I think they played him around the same time she admitted on TV she couldn't compete with the top several hundred men. So, she either already had figured out first hand, or did soon after she couldn't. Then just a few years ago she jumps with everyone else on Macnroe for saying the same freaking thing. I also didn't discover they actually played that dude until these last few months. So I'm guessing many don't know.
@@jacksondolly3248She then revised her statement to outside of the top 350(?), and he had fallen in the rankings to there in the next couple months so he said he'd play them again.
Sure men can beat women in sports but young girls who participate in sports see a lot of health benefits. These comparisons between men and women's athletic abilities are one way that girls are discouraged from trying or putting in any effort ("you'll never be good, even if you practice and get as good as you can be"). It's not embarrassing for a woman to be beaten by a man, but it's embarrassing for the man if he has to make sure that everyone knows she lost.
Since the WNBA players have so much confidence in their game, why not put them in a match against the NBA players? like in the all stars game (NBA all star vs WNBA all star) or including the WNBA all stars into the mix during team selection by the captains Just an idea
Nah that would be boring. That would be the equivalent of putting a state HS Championship boys team up against a 5th grader team. No one would be interested.
Yea, that wouldn't work, they let slappys like Justin Bieber look good against them, it needs to be a real game were they actually try if they want to go there.
I’d even go on to say that you could get the best team of freshman and sophomore high school team and they’d beat the Aces by double digits. No doubt in my mind. I’d watch the hell outa that game.
The WNBA shold really capitalize on this opportunity. As rational people have been saying for years to generate revenue you need to have a quality product and/or be able to draw people into watching. Here is the opportunity to draw people in and have them watch. I haven't ordered anything on pay per view for years. I would 100% pay to watch.
I've never ever ever ever in my life bought a pay-per-view for an event and I absolutely would for this...However, it'd be more fun attending a bar or venue that's showing the match. I'd get to drink and eat while being out enjoying myself and the slaughter that would take place.
This is the most stupid proposition ever. How would you react competing against babies? You would lose all your credibility. Of course the WNBA champions are going to wreck any high school team, it's not even up to debate. What is up to debate is WNBA's image following that event, which is nowhere near good.
MY experience wasn't WNBA, but involved a starting center for a top ten NCAA D1 player. I was in my mid 30,s playing pick up games twice a week with a bunch of older businessmen, lawyers and doctors etc. I was definitely one of the youngest. The college girl that played in our scrimmage was 6'1" and all of our "big men" were in their early to mid 1950s. She was unable to do much against these guys who were the same height or slightly taller. I was very surprised as I was very familiar with this woman who was the best player on her HS state championship team. It was surprised that she wasn't much more effective against us. BTW, I am 5'6" and was not good enough to make my HS varsity team.
To make this game even more interesting, why not play a WNBA "All-Star" team against a state high school champion team? That way, the WNBA could include the "best of the best" from their league. Now that would be a game I would gladly pay to see! 👀
State championship team?... LOL. ANY highschool from a decent sized city would destroy a WNBA all-star team. We used to play with a future WNBA player when she still played ball at Michigan State (she was drafted like a year later). This was our church team. And she was around our level of play. But again, our church team... our best player BARELY made our Highschool team and rode the bench most of the season.
That would be worse for the women. It would be better for a squad that has played together and have their team game on lock because having a bunch of individual all stars won’t mesh right away and def aren’t going to over power the boys.
You don't need to be a high school state champ team to be a serious contender against a WBNA squad. For a high school team, even if you capped the height of the center at 6'3 and all other players capped at 5'10", the high schoolers would still have a decent chance to consistently win
Well that would have to be a REALLY small HS to have a 6'3" Center and nobody else over 5'10". My son's HS Varsity team has ONE player under 6' and he is the starting SG (as well as the starting Varsity QB). At 6'4" my son plays SF.
People act like WNBA players are small lol They're forwards are 6''3"-6'7" In most sports, men would dominate, but basketball can be played and eon by the lesser athletic team constantly. The smarter team wins 99% of the time, and I think WNBA players would be a lot smarter than a high school team lol. There's plenty of videos online of WNBA players smoking guys, and they do it because they're smarter.
in 2017, the US international women’s soccer world cup winning team did lose a scrimmage match against Dallas FC U-15 boys soccer team by 2-5, Wrexham a 4th league men’s soccer team from the U.K. won against a U.S. women’s soccer team 12-0 this year.
I'm not even sure you have to limit it to 'state champions'. I've been to several WNBA games from different franchises. I really don't think any of them could beat my son's HS Varsity team he plays on 3 games out of 5. Six of them can dunk with 3 of them 'dunk contest' level dunkers. They can shoot with several of them having NBA 3pt range. They are pretty good passers as a group and a couple of them give you a 'wow did you see that' pass at least once a game. They can all go 'coast to coast' in 4 dribbles or less. The shortest of them is 5'9" tall, but the next shortest is 6' and at least four of them (including my son) are an honest 6'4"+ in bare feet. My son and a few of his teammates played against a few men's league teams in a mini-tournament a few weekends ago and they smoked those men (and we're not talking out of shape, 50+ guys like me... we're talking 20 and early 30 something athletic guys who play regularly). They scrimmaged their own girl's Varsity team (and those young ladies made it into the state playoffs) and just crushed them playing about 80% speed. I just don't see it. No knock on the women who play WNBA. They worked and continue to work extremely hard in their sport. They are some of the best female ballers on the planet, but biology doesn't play according to 'politically correct' rules. It just is.
Travis is covering his bases. There could be some H.S. boys team from some H.S. with like a ~100 student enrollment where they barely can fill out an 11 man roster because so few kids come out for BB, and the WNBA could beat them. True, it is overkill for an actual state championship competitive boys HS team to face the WNBA.
@azul93gt38 I disagree. Trust me when I say this. The current boys basketball team from my high-school, which is an exceptional high-school team winning three out of the last 5 state championships probably would handily beat any WNBA team right now. The athleticism, the strength and how quick those boys can move would be too much in my opinion. Hard to beat biology....
It's more than likely that Bobby Riggs threw the match against Billie Jean King: he was the overwhelming favourite to win, having beaten Margaret Court without even raising a hint of a sweat, and the guy was riddled with debt. So he would have got pretty great odds on losing. (Indeed, if you watch the game, or any one of several analyses of the encounter, you'll see that he changed his style of play from the earlier game against Margaret Court to something much less effective. More than a little fishy...)
King HAD to throw that match for a simple reason: it was WHO he owed money to. He got involved with some rather "sketchy" financiers. That being said, the promoters also had a vested interest in King winning; they wanted the women's game to gain more respect, and if their 'best' couldn't even beat a 55 year old has-been, it would set back women's tennis to the point where it'd become a sideshow. Riggs not only had a strong incentive (i.e., to not be fitted with "cement overshoes") to lose, he was a gentleman who actually liked women and was happy to "take one" to help their cause in sports.
It's weird that this is even a question. My wife says things are heavy that I can pick up without even noticing. Honestly, it's pretty trashy to talk shit about the WNBA since it's obvious. I guess they brought it on themselves, though.
Well that isn't true. I've played against NCAA female players when I was a college player. They have very high level skills. That isn't in question. The athleticism just wipes away that skill level at the extremes. It doesn't matter if you are a great ball handler if the guy guarding you is a decent on ball defender but is WAY faster than you. He's just going to take it from you. It doesn't matter if you have good footwork and can block out well. If the guy opposing you is 8 inches taller, has 20 inches of vertical jump on you, and is both stronger and quicker off the ground. He is going to out rebound your ass.
When I was 14, I played the national champion U18 women’s soccer team (which was filled with D1 commits) as we were part of the same club. We played a 45 minute game in which we beat them 7-0.
When I was in grade nine, our boys team coach was ALSO the coach of the #1 university team in Canada - University of Waterloo. He brought his girls in for an exhibition match. Keep in mind not only were we a bunch of gangly 14 year olds, we had NEVER played together before. During the match, our group of grade 9 boys were faster, stronger, more athletic than the girls but not as refined in the shooting department as these 19-24 year old girls. We DESTROYED them. It was not close.
Just to be clear it is well known by anybody that is knowledgeable about tennis that Bobby Riggs threw that match against BJK. He had just beat world #1 Margaret Court in a match 6-2, 6-1 and completely destroyed her and she was better than BJK. I don't even know much about tennis and I've watched the match where they played and Riggs clearly is throwing shots left and right. He must have made a huge bet against himself and cashed in on it.
I played a 5 on 5 pickup game during college and guarded a 6’6” German woman. I’m 6,1”. I out boarded a her and held her to one bucket. She got very upset. My bball experience was as a bench warmer on a second tier 8th grade team. I found out later she played D1 and was on the German national team.
There are wnba players that say they are better than nba players,.. they need a reality check.. This delusion causes social problems because they all think they deserve more than their skills
A good group of 14 year old boys would destroy a group of the best WNBA stars. If we could get the young men to forget that they're women and play with full physicality, I doubt the women would even score. I doubt any of the women would even survive game without serious injuries.
I think the biggest problem for the women in a game like this would be, even if the boys ended destroying the WNBA team, while that particular game would generate tons of money, in the long run it would completely destroy the WNBA as a whole. The viewership for them would probably decrease by half if not more and that's something they simply cannot afford in order to sustain itself.
I doubt it as there is a female soccer team that went against a team of high school boys and lost and I believe that team was the US soccer team which is still somewhat popular to this day
The WNBA is already subsidized to the hilt, and that's not going to stop. The bad loss would however hurt the media's attempt to sell their "equal outcomes" agenda.
Dude, The WNBA has lost, on average, at least $10 mil a year...in each of the 25 years it's been in existence. Poker reruns from The 2003 WSOP Main Event...routinely gets higher ratings than any live WNBA game. I seriously doubt that getting trounced by a high school boys state championship team..would sink their ratings even lower. If anything...perhaps it would spur The WNBA to make two changes that needs to occur to get men (because women dont watch sports, in general) to start watching in any kind of numbers: 1. lower the rim to 9 feet. Dunking has to be a part of the game. Dunking makes the game more exciting. It creates emotion. Fans love it. 2. Play bikini basketball. Bikini volleyball is a sport. Seeing females playing basketball while wearing bikinis...would definitely increase the ratings. Or....keep losing $10 mil a year on a sport that hardly any sane sports fan watches.
I was a 6' high school basketball player who sat way at the end of the bench. At the time I went to the gym and found a group of women who could play and got involved in a 3 on 3. It turned out that they were the womans basketball team from the University of Idaho. Now the truth was that I was way to fast for them to cover me out top and too strong for their 6'3 center to guard underneath. I could literally do anything that I wanted. Now they weren't the WNBA but I was a bench player from a mediocre high school boys team. If I had played for them I would have been a superstar and would have lead them in every single statistical category. I would also remind you that I was younger than they were at the time as well.
Where I went to school in suburban New York, I would say the best basketball players in my junior high school would have beaten these WNBA players pretty easily. Forget about the bigger, better high school guys. These junior high guys were simply excellent players, and I don't even mean the guys on the school basketball team, but just a lot of other good athletes who loved to play basketball but didn't go out for the basketball team, and might have been just a hair less in talent. At this time, when they were 14 years old, maybe 15 for some, the tallest guys I'm talking about might have been 5'8," but most were shorter than that. I'm quite sure they would have killed these girls in the WNBA. For one thing, most of them had extraordinary vertical leaps, possibly were not such great outside shooters as the women pros, but far better on the inside with great moves, and toughness. Also faster feet. Really, just far greater skills. None of these guys that I'm talking about could dunk the ball at that age, but that wouldn't have made a difference. They'd still win with ease.
My grade 9 boys coach also coached the championship women’s university team down the road. We had played together for less than a week… and we DECIMATED the championship women’s team. It wasn’t close.
As a longtime basketball ref and head coach of both boys and girls high school teams I can wholeheartedly attest that the disparity of talent between the boys and girls is deep - abyss deep. So much so that if the undefeated Class A 20-0 girls champion played the 0-20 Class D bottom feeder boys team, the boys would win a a rout. In other words, the worst boys team would still easily beat the best girls team each and every time. Just the way it is, and the WNBA needs to come to grips with this reality. Doesn't mean the girls can't compete against each other and enjoy what sports afford those who play, again, just the way it is.
My niece is one of the best basketball players in our section. My son is a good player (he made varsity as an 8th grader) but is younger and isn't nearly as accomplished as my niece. They are very close and are always playing pickup at the Y, typically on the same team. In the rare occasion they play 1 on 1 it isn't even a contest. He NEVER goes full out against her and still has no issue in any heads up game. I'm sorry but boys and girls, and men and women, are different. Women have their strengths, and are better than men at certain things, and men have their strengths, and are better than women at other things.
My little brother ran into Becky Hammon at our local YMCA in Rapid City where she is from, and was just starting out her WNBA career. She agreed to play a 3 on 3 game against him and some other guys. My brother at the time was a 5’7” sophomore who couldn’t even start on the varsity ball team. He went on to defend her pretty well and even blocked her shot which he still brings up to this day. Lol.
This is a lie.
@@DavidRuffin90 I wish it was. After he blocked her, he let out a holler, and she said “that’s cute” lol
@SuperStewie83 I think thats Becky that's saying it's a lie 😂
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Yeah played her and a giant lesbian who power fouled be so hard black dudes from the gym upstairs at CSU came down to laugh at me but she's like a small unathletic guy who can shoot people don't get the difference if they don't play
The fact that the WNBA and Chelsea Gray both went dead silent after the offer should tell you everything you need to know.
It says everything about what the WNBA (and all nonsense like it) is for. It's not for the love of the game or to host elite talent, it's equity space. Malcontents can't stand how certain demographics succeed and they demand redistribution. The NBA bleeds money to provide this space for a political statement.
Yep. They go on and on about pay and heres a big payday and they look the other way.
What if they wanted to stay traditional? Or since they are the WNBA they wanted to not do something silly like play High-school boys for a bet.
@@BEARFish-yr1obit was to showcase reality and to make a point.
@@BEARFish-yr1ob I could certainly respect that, I also understand that Gray doesn't speak for the entire WNBA but she is one of the more high profile players in the league. If they wanted to stay out of competing against the high school boys team, it probably wasn't the greatest idea to respond to Travis's tweet in the first place. Especially with the one word response "dumbass". That's just going to stoke the fire!
LMAO " if LeBron played in the WNBA, he'd score 840 pts a game"
-Dave Chappelle 🤣
Not really.
I bet the athletic bra would throw his shot off.
So would the fake nails, eyelashes, and thong underwear.
yes the refs could arrange it
@@steelcastle5616 true kekw, so half that.
@@steelcastle5616 bron would just dunk lmao
That's not a joke.. because it's true
That one game would get more viewers than an entire season of WNBA games combined
It would get more viewers then the league has ever played in front of! Period!
Just take a look at this seasons opening night attendance figures! That may have had 43 maybe 44 million paying customers since 1997. Pay per-view could generate maybe a quarter of a billion people watching this! Just to prove once and for all men have ZERO BUSINESS DIRECTLY COMPETING AGAINST FEMALES! You’re not going to get a Female basketball players standing 6-9 and weighing 250 lbs moving as, gracefully as these high school kids do!
It will make money for whoever it’s intended to go to but it will destroy the woke agenda when it comes to equality of the sexes!
The high school team by 50 in a cake walk! The only way it’s a closer game is they are told to keep it close!
Not now since Caitlin Clark is selling out every game she plays in
Entire existence
@@ScootsMcPootwhat's the capacity 😂😂
I wouldn't even watch a male high school BB game for free... this is why the WNBA has problems with viewership.
I could dunk as a sophomore in high school and was blocking shots off the boards and I wasn't even the most athletic dude on my team. When I was in college at a D-1 Big Ten school, me and my stoner freshman friends who all played basketball in HS ran into some of the girls on the basketball team at the rec center and we ran them off the court. We were just too fast, strong, and athletic for them. Yes they were skilled but the overwhelming athletic advantage we had over them made up for it in spades. It's hard to score when you can't get a shot off cause your opponent is taller, quickier, and can easily out jump you. It ain't sexism it is just biology. Any one that thinks the WNBA team has a chance against a good high school boys team...is either lying for feminist brownie points or never seriously played basketball.
100%. I'm curious if the girls were hostile to you guys like an experience we had. My HS teammates played the Stanford women's team who had the #3 pick Nicole Powell when we were going into senior year. They were actually kind of being dicks, acting like they were too good for us (even as we were smoking them) - almost hostile. I'm curious if the girls you played acted the same.
Maybe it was cuz we were HS boys and they were college girls but that didn't feel like the vibe - it felt "hoops ego" based.
@@clapdrix72 My experience was at Ohio State. It was after a Friday night of drinking too. People talk about how much skill the women have, but skill had nothing to do with it. Their skill couldn't stop us on offense because of biology. It was too easy to shoot over, drive through, post up, and offensive rebound that we started goofying off. I remember one girl took a charge on me and I just ran through her and didn't feel it. Then on defense with ladies having a lower release point for a shot, we blocked so many of their layups. But similar to you they were all cocky at 1st, but after that we never saw them back at that rec center.
Yeah, there are sports that are great for women's physiques, like gymnastics, but at basketball it's kind of shocking how much of an advantage you have over them. Once you see where they release their shot (very very low, low height plus no jump etc) and the rate at which they move (NOT fast), you basically go easy on them unless you're crazy for some reason.
@@EGarrett01 Actually ironic you mention gymnastics... check out videos of male gymnasts doing the female skill events. A couple of former female Olympic gymnasts were watching clips and reacting and their reaction says it all. Basically, if the competition is physically based on strength, speed, size, and flexibility the males have the advantage. Now make it purely skill and eye-hand coordination and the scales even up almost immediately. Take something like darts, pool, bowling, etc. and it becomes a much more even matchup.
@@guiwhiz Gymnastics isn't based on size or speed, and the strength required scales in proportion to weight. Flexibility is also much closer between women and men. And since the sport is about individual routines, grace etc and not direct physical confrontation, it fits more with women's natural inclinations.
There's other activities where women are actually better than men. Like long-range shooting. But basketball, football etc are definitely not those activities.
I would take all of my life savings, my family's life savings, my friends life savings, and bet it on the HS boys team, and I will forever be getting the utmost gratitude of these people.
Of course they would. That would be such a wise financial move
You could rob a bank on a Saturday and have the money back before they open on Monday, 100% guaranteed.
Bro since NO ONE should be stupid enough to bet on the wnba team you wouldn't make that much
@@TrueSkullLeader wait. You mean the feminist wont bet on their equality idea? I was hoping for those radical feminist to bet too to shut us up thinking they will this. 🤷♂️lol
Why should they play HS? Fck that. Have a WNBA vs NBA game... If they really need a leg up put the best womens team against the worst mens team.
Note that Bobby Riggs was 55 when he played and narrowly lost to Billy Jean King who was 29 at the time. She won 6-4, 6-3, 6-3. If she had played against Stan Smith, Arthur Ashe, or Tom Gorman she would have gotten SMOKED. She was playing a retired dude who was 26 years older than her.
hm.. sounds like Jake Paul.. :D
WTA owes Bobby Riggs HUGE!!! Bobby did more for WTA in one night than women have in decades.
@@danieljett6560 LOL!
But Bobby Riggs beat some other girl, number one player right before that Virginia Wade(?) Edit: To the ~30 people on this thread who don’t read
I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court
I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court
I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court
I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court
I think Riggs was payed more money to lose that match.
I want to see WNBA all-stars v middle school boys all-stars.
truly…HS would be a blowout…middle school might be interesting…
The all stars would win but high school would be an equal match up
WNBA probably would take it, the age gap is just too much
@@ThatGuyWithNoLifeagreed at that point the age gap would give the wnba to many physical advantages at that point
@@ThatGuyWithNoLifeI don't know about that. There's middle schoolers who can dunk.
A buddy of mine was dating a WNBA player for a while. She came to our Tuesday night men's run and played with us a few times. She was average in that group. In other words, a WNBA player (top few hundred in the world) is no better than the guys at your local random gym. No knock on her either, she was one of the best women ballers I've ever seen in person and the fact that she hung with the guys was impressive.
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You thought she was going to play for real in a pick up game? 🤣
I've played with some top level D-1 women's basketball players. Frankly, they are good enough to play pickup basketball with the dudes I play with. Happy to have them show up, and play. They are good. But the top 5 dudes in our 30s can compete at the women's D1 level. It's wildly lopsided.
@@Red-zc2zy Oh, she was playing hard. No doubt about it.
THIS IS A FUCKING LIE
The UK side that smashed the US women’s soccer team wasn’t a professional side, it was a mixture of older retired players & some current players who were in lower leagues etc.
Lee Trundle (who scored 4 of the goals for the men’s side) was 46 years old & would freely admit was well past his best - by about two decades!
He was a great goal scorer in his professional playing days though, & even though heavier, slower & less mobile he still showed the ladies how it should be done! Well played Lee👍.
It wouldn't surprise me if the boys won for basketball. Of all the sports Basketball is probably the most pointlessly biased to a male body type. It's like if someone made a game where you need to be small and crawl through holes on the ground. Soccer or running is a better comparison. But even so, most of the people on the internet living vicariously through the gender of professional athletes are fucking losers either way.
Not sure I'd say Lee Trundle was a great goal scorer - more of a sort of reliable lower league team striker. And he wasn't even trying
Wasn’t the US Women’s team also retired players?
The game was a joke. Men were leisurely standing a walking while ONE player was dribbling and scoring. That’s NOT how real game is played. Soccer is TEAM sport and in a real adult game ENTIRE female team would be INJURED just from body to body contact and goalkeeper would be injured just from men’s bullet shots to the face
@@paulscottrobsonI'd say he was a great goalscorer for the level. Put in 20+ league goals, 25-30 all comps a season at Swansea for half a decade or so.
In highschool, our girls team were state champions with 3 girls eventually playing D1 and going on to the wnba. I was a freshman and on the boys freshman basketball team. Our coach was the girls assistant coach, so they would use us to practice plays and scrimmage against. Our freshman team didn't win a game all season, but we were undefeated in practice, lol.
LOL
As a longtime basketball ref and head coach of both boys and girls high school teams I can wholeheartedly attest that the disparity of talent between the boys and girls is deep - abyss deep. So much so that if the undefeated Class A 20-0 girls champion played the 0-20 Class D bottom feeder boys team, the boys would win a a rout.
In other words, the worst boys team would still easily beat the best girls team each and every time.
Just the way it is, and the WNBA needs to come to grips with this reality. Doesn't mean the girls can't compete against each other and enjoy what sports afford those who play, again, just the way it is.
Exactly
Ouch lol
I went to high school with a girl who has 2 gold medals and she couldn't even get a shot off against us.
I'm sorry, that Ben Simmons picture is my favorite part of the video. I had a good laugh. Thank you.
I was a 6th man on a D3 college team a few decades ago. Nothing special.
The girl's team had a player who was All NY State and an alternate on the Olympic team. She was a very good player and averaged nearly 20 points a game.
One evening after our practice she challenged me to a friendly one-on-one game. I confess that I played hard against her and won 11 baskets to one or two. She couldn't get off a shot and couldn't believe the difference from playing against the girls.
Love that you played hard tbh. Wish my daughters wanted to play basketball.. I used to tell my wife the only people they would play against are boys. Nothing like a little exposure therapy. Also kinda reminds me of how the youngest boy in a family is usually the most athletic because he's been bullied growing up by the older siblings 😂 we see that all the time.
If you played D3 and got time, you are actually probably pretty awesome. I gave my life to basketball as a young player, and got some interest in community colleges and one D3 school. I tried to walk on at a D1 school.
i was a benchrider on my jv team, got cut from varsity. but i beat our #1 girls varsity player easily and lazily. she went to pepperdine on a scholarship and it was an easy win for me
same here. my JV team in highschool scrimmaged the varsity girls. they were cocky and one of the best teams in the state. well, they couldn't even score against us. never heard a peep from them after. there is no doubt a highschool all star team would destroy WNBA champion teams.@@bg710
@brooklynborn83I cannot speak to whether your comment about Brittney is correct with respect to the guy who played D3. I can say that I never played organized basketball and I would crush Griner - one on one, or whatever.
I watch all of this talk about it being sexist to recognize physical differences and then the men who compete as girls to win state championships and I tell people that if the WNBA had open tryouts, I would go in and win myself a scoring title.
Bearded up and all - like “you can’t discriminate against me for my identity.
Crossover! Fadeaway to half court: bucket!
It’s not my fault that they don’t practice as hard as I do.
In 1988, Olympian Florence Griffith-Joyner set a record in the Women’s 100m at 10.49, a record that has stood for 35 years. Every year since, 20 to 30+ U.S. High School boys run it faster.
Agreed, at 12 years old I was easily acing and winning against college girls in tennis, which wasn't even my best sport.
It's almost like women aren't even trying....
No wait... we're just sexist.
That record was also set during a time when doping was EXTREMELY common and overlooked. The 80s female records have stood for a reason, and NO FEMALE have come even close to it since because of the dope testing done today.
And that 10.49 was substance assisted.
And that time by Joyner occured with a broken wind measuring instrument on a day everyone knew had wind exceeding what was allowed. The record is actually 10.54
I just love that her best response was to tweet "Dumbass" like she really thought she did something with that🤣
woman moment
When you know he's right have no intelligent response... dumbass is easy to say. What she should have said was that she acknowledges this to be true. Any game would be for fun and to raise money for the boys schools. I'll pay to watch this game.
Any remotely decent HS boys team is destroying any wnba team or wnba all star team. Faster, stronger, mostly taller, quicker, and most important can jump far far higher. Hell I’d put my money on some middle school teams I’ve seen play. Only thing I’d be worried about is the mob getting the guys to throw the game for a bigger payday.
Cooper Flagg would straight up drop 70 😂
100😂
The kid from Maine..
@@Locksmith92what about it
He would punish those woman fa real, Britnee Griner is the only woman that can contest some of his shots but Cooper still would posterize her, I’d pay to see it fa real
Montverde wouldn't count tho. They're a prep school, they don't play for State Titles. Clay said a state championship team.
If I recall, the tennis match between King and Riggs was not on a level playing field. I believe that Riggs only had one serve while King got two. I also think that he could only use the singles court while she used the doubles court. Not to mention that he was 55 years old. I don’t hear anyone mention these facts.
There were also rumors Riggs threw the match for money. That obviously can't be verified now that he's dead, but it's certainly plausible.
Even Serena Williams said she couldn't beat the 150th ranked male tennis player. And she is the GOAT.
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He probably threw the match anywy
And it was 100% rigged. And here is where my many powerscaling battles come in handy:
Serena and Venus Williams >>>>>> King all day everyday as they were #1 and #2 in their primes. The ranked #250 male player crawled out of bed, slammed some brewskies, and DESTROYED BOTH OF THEM BACK TO BACK WITH NO BREAK IN BETWEEN
Then homie was clearly UI Shaggy's ancestor cause he said he was barely going half-speed. There is zero change of King v Riggs not being hella rigged lol
Back in the 90’s me and a few guys who played ball in high school put together a college rec league team. The D1 women’s team was playing pickup and asked us to scrimmage with them. They were really good and skilled but we still beat them 12-10, 12-9 and 12-10. They were taller too but even at 6’4” our tallest players at 6’ would out rebound them. Basketball is not a fair sport for women to compete against men. Men have too many physical advantages that skill and even height can’t overcome. I say this though, they were more skilled than us and used set plays for easy buckets. We won on fast break points just because we were faster.
Jalen Suggs is on the Magic. Chet Holmgren is on the Thunder.
They were both on the same High School Team up in Minnesota.
They won their school level state Tourny 3 years in a row.(AAA)
They were beat by teams a Level up back then also.(AAAA)
They weren't even the BEST TEAM in Minnesota!!
Good Luck WNBA. You will get destroyed.
Damn
but, people want men to play on the womens team now
it's crazy how people act like sports are segregated because of personality or something
Yea this makes more sense. I just feel like people make it seem like they would just get blown out. Which that’s not true
What size ball would they use? I don't see changing balls each possession as practical, unless they play a half court game.
It would definitely increase the respect for the WNBA if they kept it close and played well. They would low key have to drop it to middle school for it to be competitive.
Nah middle-school wouldn't be competitive at all. The boys wouldn't have hit puberty yet for the most part. That is when the biological differences really kick in.
That is what I was thinking: the boys need to be 15 years old or younger. I'm talking the nation's top 12 boys in that age group.
They would get destroyed by 15 yr old lebrons
Boozer twins was once 15 years olds.....15 year olds at different level now. WNBA will definitely still destoryed.
idk even the top middle schoolers would destroy them. they got 7 footers in middle school 😭 it would have to be a mid middle school team
I usually roll my eyes whenever someone says a game is rigged. But if there were ever a game that had the potential to be rigged, it would be this one. The amount of money the books could win by having the boys throw the game would be astronomical.
ALL professional sports are rigged.
@@atomicwedgie8176said: " ALL professional sports are rigged."
Could you show us your evidence, please?
@@contumelious-8440 actually the reason the Olympics didn't allow professional players is because they can and are rigged and the WWF admitted that their matches are rigged because they got tired of dealing with the athletic commission's
@@contumelious-8440 Sounds like atomicwedgie8176 has a gambling problem! LOL
@@michaelmadson2817 Oh, did you take on the role of showing the evidence? Otherwise...we don't need to talk do we?
In 1996, the national, Under 14 Boys Champions, Jamaica College (High School) team played the national womens' team.
It became a wrestling match. They grabbed, pulled, pushed and slapped us, because they couldn't stop us from scoring and couldn't score against us.
We were a bit OP for a team full of 14 year olds. Our starting 5 went like this:
C was a monsterous 6'5",
PG was a towering 5'7",
SG 5'9",
me at SF measuring 5'11"
and the PF as a massive 6'2".
We were up 40 by the half.
Damn.. You guys were basically the Golden State Warriors.. 😂😂
A "towering" 5'7... never felt better being 5'7 than reading that 🤣
Some total weirdos think it’s not a 50+ point blowout against 6’8” high schoolers
What is " OP "?
@@leonardothefabulous3490 overpowered?
4:50 The Ben Simmons pic had me absolutely rolling
There's no doubt. In HS 4 of my teammates and I played the Stanford women's bball team in pick up and absolutely smoked them. They had Nicole Powell who was the #3 pick in the 2004 WNBA draft. I mean no disrespect but it was like playing 8th-9th grade boys. We were even using a women's ball so we shot everything long. The difference in strength and athleticism makes it unfair.
We actually left early cuz it wasn't really fun, especially with the girls ball. Tbh, they were kind of being dicks too, like they were too good for us cuz they were D1 players - really unfriendly, almost hostile... so we didn't hold back at all.
Two of my teammates played D2 but were well under 6' and I was 3rd best as an above avg 6'2" HS player. By no means were any of us blue chips - our team was ranked somewhere in the 30s or 40s in CA I think.
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It's not fun playing with girls at all.
@@njdrive5165Nope, it's absolutely, definitely true. My coach from Stanford bball summer camp I kept in touch with was a development coach for the girls, or something like that, and he invited me and I brought my PG, Ryan Cooper, and PG from my old HS, Alan Iida, who both played D2 at Notre Dame de Namur in 2006-2008 or so. We got there a little late, played like 2 games and bounced to a pickup game at Piedmont, our HS.
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This needs to happen so that the point can be made that men and women are NOT the same.
Who is making the argument that they are?
@@calvinmiguel4405the women themselves? Lol
but, people want men to play on the womens team now
it's crazy how people act like sports are segregated because of personality or something
So the f what... The arguments in this video are lame.
If it ever happens, the WNBA team should start with a 50 point lead to make things interesting.
I would still bet the farm on the boys.
Nah that would be lame cause of if the girls win then it means nothing
NO…They want EQUALITY RIGHT? Start the game fair and square…0-0!!!
@@taharqa332And then it's unfair because the boys are too athletic.
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4:50 Ben Simmons "shooting" the ball to high heavens West of the rim is absolutely HILARIOUS.
😂 Also 7:00 I was like "wait, *what?"* Side-by-side of Boozer's HAIRLINE, brutal!
With apologies to A.I.:
_Context? You talkin' about, CONTEXT?_
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@@RobertCarnevale-qr5ey😂😂 they definitely did him dirty here! All the dudes were paintin they hair back on in the 2010s-2015s before the implant locks lol
I'd honestly go as far to say a wnba team would lose to an elite 8th grade AAU boys team
When I was in 8th grade we had a kid who was already 6'4" on the squad so might be right.
No doubt they could
Nope. Wouldn't be a height or weight advantage and with quite a few of the boys just barely into puberty their muscle-mass strength per pound wouldn't be developed yet. Could a truly elite 13u AAU team give a WNBA team a competitive game? Yeah probably. Win say 3 out of 5... probably not. You forget a typical WNBA Center is 6'4+ and over 200lbs. Not a lot of 8th graders who are remotely athletic can match up with that. Two years later... yeah my son's 16u AAU Elite team would almost certainly beat a WNBA team 4 out of 5.
Possibly. My 8th grade 6'1 guard/forward son has been playing competitive men's pick up games against the best in my city for the past year. Add a team of players with his skill/abilities then yeah they can win.
I wouldn't go that far.
I think it needs to happen. It will either validate them and increase viewership. Or it will humble some of them enough to make changes to the league to increase excitement.
its a no win situation for womens basketball
They will lose as expected and nothing will change
After someething like that happen what can you do at that point to increase excitement? Put trampolines on the court?
@@nbagoats4819 No. You make the court smaller to increase the pace at which the ladies can get up and down the court, you lower the hoop to make the dunk a viable scoring option for a majority of WNBA players, and you make the free throw and three-point lines closer to maintain proportions on the smaller court. These changes will lead to an increase in the pace of play, an increase in exciting plays, and an increase in overall scoring.
I think lowering the rim to 9' or 9'6" would add excitement. The women already use a tiny basketball to account for hand size/strength
My son was invited to practice with the local WNBA team because his high school teammate's dad was the head coach. My son said he and his friend were told not to steal the ball, block shots, or play too aggressively. (I understand the prohibition to not play aggressively, because the women could get hurt.) He said he was surprised at how smart the women played. They played better team basketball than most high school boy's teams. He was also surprised at how physical they were (e.g., setting screens, fighting through screens, holding their ground, etc.) and how well they could shoot. That being said, he did say he could pretty much drive at will, and none of the women could get around him. He also said he could have blocked plenty of shots if he tried, as the women don't really shoot jump shots.
My son was just an All-district player--not All-state. His team won District, not Area, Region, or State. If my son could compete with the WNBA team (WITH RESTRICTIONS), there is no doubt in my mind that a state championship boy's team would entirely obliterate a WNBA team--I don't care if that boy's team were from Idaho or South Dakota, much less California, New York, or Texas.
Not to diminish what you wrote but the whole topic is a waste of time. It's obvious that women can't compete against men in sports that require strength and speed.
Chelsea Gray called Clay Travis a dumbass as an attempt at damage control.
Have you ever watched a WNBA game ? ? ?
@@tanjajohnson4659 I have, the WNBA champions, Storm. It's definitely slower than my HS varsity team and maybe about like our JV team speed. It's been a while so might be off on that but in 9th grade we were all about blocking shots, rebounding hard, dunking girls' balls and could alley oop dunk men's, which is another thing not being mentioned here. Would the men vs women use men's ball or women's? If men's, that's another disadvantage for the women.
@@ocd000 I took my daughter to a WMBA game, and it looked like a bunch of little kids out there. There were 26 TWENTY SIX missed layups BREAKAWAY LAYUPS ! ! ! On the way home, she told me that she never wanted to go to a WNBA game again, she still loves NBA games and we go to them regularly. But it was embarrassing to watch them. I believe my firm's over 40 team could beat any WNBA team.
The explosiveness of a good high school basketball player would be the only real important factor. I'm 6'2" and 215, not exactly prime DRose getting to the basket, but even I could blow by anybody in the WNBA. The WNBA girls look like they're running through quicksand. An actual good athlete would make them look like statues.
It wouldn't require a state championship quality team to beat the top WNBA team.
In 1992, Jimmy Connors soundly beat Martina Navratilova in straight sets in a "Battle of Champions" - despite giving up the two doubles lanes and his second serve. This is a match you don't hear about. You only hear about the close match between Billy Jean King and 55-year-old Bobby Riggs. Funny about a piece of history disappearing down the rabbit hole.
There was also the guy who played against Williams sisters, he played one set against each, and he was like rank 700 on ATP list, literally smoking cigarettes before the match. He smashed them both.
Riggs was, by that time, reduced to hustling to make money at tennis. I think he was expecting a re-match, and maybe, a series of matches, so, he threw the game. Too bad for him, nothing else came of it...
@@ta192utube because he would have smoked her the 2nd time around
Correct, but it was not the entire doubles lanes.
There was an unsubstantiated rumor that Riggs threw the match to pay off a gambling debt.
What people fail to mention in the King vs Riggs match is that Bobby was 55 years old. King was 29.
And that the whole match was little more than a publicity stunt.
she should have played John McEnroe
oh wait, she would have gotten destroyed
It wasn’t abt that it was getting rid of that guys ego after his statement. He said he could win, BJK wasn’t trying to prove she was as good as the best men in the world, just that she could beat that guy’s arrogant ass
@@carolinec4289 A few months before that match, Riggs demolished then number 1 womens player Margaret Court in The Mother's Day Massacre. Many historians now believe Riggs threw the match against King to pay of gambling debts.
@@carolinec4289 Again you fail to realize that Riggs was just acting for the cameras in order to hype this inane "Battle of the Sexes" nonsense.
Riggs could be equated to those WWE wrestlers talking smack before a big match to garner interest in a fake matchup.
What about the Brazilian women's national football team? At the time (2021), they had the best player in the world, Marta, and they played against Grêmio's U16 men's team-and lost 6-0.
No shit?? 😆
I’m was a 5’5” starting point guard for the “B” team my freshman year. During a pick up game with my freshman team at the high school gym at night, the starting varsity girls wanted to challenge us. We decided to give ourselves a handicap by making the guards the center and forwards, and the center and forwards play nothing but the perimeter. I out rebounded, out shot, and out muscled the entire team by myself in the paint. You can see their heads spinning because they couldn’t understand how I kept blocking their shots.
I never played orginanized basketball. Played some pick up games. The girls college team was in the gym & I had to guard their best player. She never scored or even got the ball. I also like you even being a skinny guy (5'10" 145 lbs) was able to out muscle & rebound their top rebounder who was 6'3" tall. I was quick & could really jump. I also could run all day long. I have to say I enjoyed bodying a few of those female players & this was back in the 1980's. They had 3 that were smoking hot.
I actually think the women pros would win.
@@kevinvonschaumburg1201 you don’t watch enough basketball then. The best high school boys team would smoke them by 30 plus easily
@kevinvonschaumburg1201 You willing to put a big bet on that? Because I am sure many many people would take you up on that bet.
@@BBBYpsi I’d bet everything on the boys lmao
In the mid 80’s for two years I dated the #1 girls basketball high school prospect in the US, a 6’1” center with great abilities. Got a full scholarship to Stanford, played professionally in Europe before the WNBA. I couldn’t make my high school team, but at 6’3” I never lost to her one on one. People enjoy women’s basketball to see the game played on the ground, with positioning, passing and shooting as a priority, not world-class speed and aerial athleticism. They are playing the same game but the men can play it entirely above the rim. This is like a football team playing another where one is not allowed to pass. They would be destroyed. Clay is right.
Missed layups and constant turnovers is not enjoyable.
Who are these people you are referring to that like to watch women’s basketball
I think we all know the only real reason anybody would watch women's over men's basketball
One form or another of simping
@@Set_Your_Handlle Why would anyone simp over ugly lesbians playing terrible basketball?
@@Orxbane lol
In 1996 at Ohio State, I was a freshman playing pickup at Larkins Hall when Katie Smith showed up to play. She’s 8th all-time scorer for WNBA. She had two Columbus Quest teammates with her who was the professional team at that time (long defunct). I guarded her and she was running around double screens set by her teammates to get looks. She scored twice, I scored twice, blocked her shot once, and we won the game. The best part though is when someone threw a half-court pass, we both went for it and I knocked her down! I was nervous since I thought I injured her! I offered my hand to help her up and she got up on her own power and shoulder blasted me! I immediately looked at my friends with wide eyes and we all just busted out laughing! We couldn’t believe we were just some high school varsity washups and beat Ohio’s all-time woman leading scorer and her professional teammates. She won 3 Olympic golds and entered the HOF. Women play with a smaller ball and she wouldn’t even sniff the bench if she played for the OSU men’s team. It’s the same game but a completely different sport.
Women's teams train against men all the time to get better. The players that don't are the ones who lag far behind.
@@PreferredCustomer not sure if you’re agreeing or not; I argue anyone will get better by training with people who are better in any discipline like music or sports. But women will never catch up to men athletically and that’s the point I’m making.
Who are you arguing that point to? I think most people would agree that most men naturally grow differently than most women as the females of our species must grow a body which is able to grow and nurture and bear a human fetus/baby life. So until men are capable of growing a human being and successfully expelling 8-10 pounds of baby out of their downstairs hole… I remain unimpressed that men may be able to put a ball into a bigger round hole with greater ease than most women. Very stupid point to make, man. At least be original and argue something interesting and less overdone.
For some reason, women can't jump like men can. No cut on women.... It's just the way it is. Its why there's almost zero dunking in the WNBA. They play a ground game. Men, doesn't depend on the level...high school and above, play an air game...above the rim. Women are below the rim.
@@KOrnhOliO1 same reason men run faster and lift higher weights; muscles therefore strength. The men can generate more concentric velocity with their bodies that enables lift.
1:22 correction, retired professional mens league 2 team
That Bobby Riggs match was about as real as a pro wrestling match. He absolutely threw that match. Even at 55, he would have beat her if he really tried.
Truth, everyone knows the match was fixed. He was broke af and wanted the cash
He was drunk, smoked a lot of cigs, and was 55 years old at the time. And yeah, he bet against himself.
Riggs even played the 'heel' by saying as many outrageous and annoying things as possible. Pure WWE.
Imagine what McEnroe would have done at 55 to Serena. He would mopped the court with her
@@brian9670I knew it!!!
This is what probably happened.. They came to Bobby with millions in a suitcase and he was like *"Okay"*
Bobby Riggs owed money and threw that match, not realizing he'd contribute to generational overconfidence.
And he was 55!! Lmfao!😂
Exactly.
Yep, that man needed money and they came knocking with millions..
Totally rigged. He knew his assignment
Just so you know, that wasn’t Wrexham’s professional team. It was a mix of retired and current players and it was first to 12. If it had gone 90 minutes it would have been far worse.
lol "first to" 12
And Wrexham are a lower league team, and always have been.
Go Wrexham!
I don't think it was the actual USWNT either.
I don't truly believe most WNBA players think they could play with elite male players. When it comes to demanding more money (which their sport doesn't produce) some profess to be the same talent level as NBA players. When I see any competition between a WNBA player and a man, it's usually a man who is much younger or older or shorter or way less talented (like me) or employeed by the WNBA team to assure a victory. Then they say that uneven contest proves their point. I've NEVER seen them play a current or past NBA player.
If memory serves me correctly, in that tennis match between King and Riggs, they allowed King to hit the ball in the alleys while Riggs couldn't. In other words, the rules were changed so King, in her prime, could beat a 55 year old Riggs.
Interesting.
Incorrect. The match between King and Riggs (officially known as Battle of the Sexes II) did _not_ have a handicap for Riggs (AKA "hybrid rules"). The Battle of the Sexes III match in 1992 between Martina Navratilova and Bobby Connors _did_ have hybrid rules, where Connors was allowed only one serve per point, and Navratilova was allowed to hit into half of the doubles alleys. And earlier than either of those, in a 1975 series of matchups in various sports (known as the _Challenge_ of the Sexes [emphasis mine]), the tennis event featuring Virginia Wade vs. Björn Borg, and Ilie Nastase vs. Evonne Goolagong had similar hybrid rules. But hey, I'm sure that next you'll come up with some other excuse for Riggs losing. Anything to avoid admitting even the possibility that women could ever compete with men, right?
@@DekkerDekker I'm sorry you fell for Bobby Riggs' prank.
@@DekkerDekker I wasn't making an excuse. I simply remembered there being some "hybrid" rules for those types of matches. That being said, if women can compete with men in tennis, why did they need to implement hybrid rules.
@@DekkerDekkerThey'd kill us at washing socks every time...that is...unless we decided to get good at it. That what's happened when we decided to start cooking, anyway. Then maybe single stocks would quit disappearing.
I would pay to see a kid dunk on that Brittney Griner guy.
Ye a h wipe the grin off his face
Why don't you dunk on Brittney Grainer
I would definitely pay for that😂😂😂😂
Facts because he is as Austin Powers would say "He's a man baby, yeah " 😂😂😂😂😂
Damn bro that’s fucked up lmao
They would absolutely get smoked😂…this is the ONLY WNBA game I will ever watch! This video made me subscribe.
me to
Why though? That’s just weird. You hate women that much? I don’t see maybe it’s yll new dudes. I have interest in watching a coed basketball game.
Facts!!!
Doesn't watch a wnba game to virtue signal about it therefore it means you hate muh women.
7:01 😂 why is Carlos Boozer’s two night hair transformation currently the most replayed moment of this video? 😂😂😅 why did I realize this as I kept rewinding the clip to get a good look at how bald he became (or how much Bigen he sported two nights prior)? 😂😂😂
Something similar to this happened in the early 2000s when the USA Women’s Hockey Team played a boys high school team from a small town in northern Minnesota called Warroad and lost.
Sheesh Warroad is a popular hockey school isn't it?😂
All the best boys hockey teams from Minnesota suffered defeat by Warroad for decades. lol They are legendary.
The fact is that the boys team wouldn't even have to be an elite squad. If you put the WNBA champions in just about any urban or suburban high school conference for a season, there's a pretty good chance that they would finish last.
And the WNBA champs would no doubt try to seek out the weakest high school basketball team they could find just to give themselves a chance! 🙄
@@SirManfly LOL true. But imagine how hard those boys would play in order to overcome the humiliation of being chosen.
When I was in high school, I played in co-ed pick-up games with WNBA plays, and I can say from experience that, a talented AAU team of middle school boys will give a WNBA team problems. A good high school team of boys would definitely dominate against the best WNBA teams.
i disagree
@@mellamodiego8458also this is a foolish conversation
@@mellamodiego8458 you are wrong. Kobe and LeBron played right out of high school. High school boys state championship teams ALL have 1 or 2 boys on their team just like that. They would score 88 point a night against any pro girls' team and the girls couldn't do anything about it.
Same, when I was 12 years old, the kids on my block played the girls high school team, they were ranked 3rd in the state of NJ that year. We absolutely demolished them.
@@uddin1659 yeah right.
The Bobby Riggs match: he was up until 4am the morning before the match-up at a party, and had also soundly beaten Margret Court, a much better player than King, 6 or 12 months earlier; but they never remember any of that.
When we were 8th graders, we took on the high school girls in a scrimmage. They were 3rd place in the state that year and we were a middling team. It was something like 47 to 4 before they stopped it. They could barely get past half court against the press.
Cap
cap, you don’t get 3rd in the state and still not be able to handle a press like bro
@@Cactusboxes fr kids be capping 🤣
@@CactusboxesNo he's not lying, our girls Varsity team had 3 future pro players including a girl who won a chip with the Detroit Shock. Our 9th grade team scrimmaged them and they couldn't get the ball past half court. Their coach got mad and broke the clipboard and stopped the Massacre.
@@CactusboxesYou cannot be a real baller. The speed and athletic difference is too much. We used to dunk on pro womens players for fun. Run n Shoot. Teresa Edwards and Townnda Mcdonald used to hoop and get mad when we dunked on them and I was only a 5'10 Freshman
I went to a very small high school (roughly 400 students in grades 9 - 12) that has won a total of two state championships in about 60 years of existence; one in football and one in softball. ONE basketball team has made it to the semi-state round of the playoffs: the boys' team sometime in the 1960s. One girl (a year ahead of me) on the basketball team earned a scholarship to play for a D1 school (where she won a national title), was a top 5 pick in the WNBA draft and played 13 seasons (winning two championships), and won a gold medal at the 2004 Olympics as part of Team USA. She was a two time All American, Big East Player of the Year once, Big East Defensive Player of the Year three times, _Sports Illustrated_ Player of the Year once, and WNBA Finals MVP once. Her senior year of high school, I personally witnessed her losing 1-on-1 to a sophomore on the boy's team who was nearly 7 inches shorter than her and who ended up being a backup on a D3 college basketball team for a school with roughly 2200 students...and it wasn't even close.
So, yeah...there's no chance a WNBA championship team could beat a top-tier high school boys' state championship team. I'd be surprised if the WNBA championship team could beat pretty much _ANY_ high school boys state championship team.
I think they are talking about ruth riley
I agree. My school were basketball 2022-23 season state champs, winning by about a 20 point margin in the finals game, so I feel pretty confident they could beat a WNBA team.
She probably thinks she's something special, too.
In a year or two, we'll see her, crushed ego, getting arrested for DUI after a box of wine, and an attempted drive home to her cats.
Do you know ANY happily married WNBA alums? I mean "marriage" in the traditional, American, sense.
One-on-one isn't the same as five-on-five . In one-on-one competition, physical sex differences are much more significant. It's not a given that a male HS team would beat a WNBA team. Skill and IQ differences would heavily favor the WNBA team.
@@AfricanThinker86 The high school team of boys would be much stronger, bigger, much faster, have quicker reaction times, jump higher, and top teams have just as much IQ and skill.....if not more.
Top high school boys teams are no joke.....and would smoke any WNBA team, easily.
I have coached both boys and girls HS varsity. I also played professionally, and had the luxury of playing against the women's team at my university (a Power 5 school). My take is this: women need to stop taking this as a personal insult. They are incredible players, but there is a reality to things. As a 5-9 point guard, I was an incredible player. But every level I stepped up, IN COMPARISON to the average player at that level, the results of my play diminished exponentially. It wasn't because I was not great. It was because my physical limitations caused enough issue that players of even lesser skill but greater physical attribute, were able to surpass my production. It is what it is. I have had 6 state championship level teams (played for 6) and could tell you that all of those teams would beat a WNBA team. No doubt. But I have had good teams that lost in playoffs that could not beat them. In AZ, last year's champ, Perry, featured Koa Peat and Cody Williams. There is not a single WBNA player that could guard either of those players, nor would they be able to score on them. Not a chance. ZERO.
Women aren’t taking it personally. It’s weird that women just want to play basketball against other women and men constantly take that as an opportunity to compare the women to men. Like most women are just minding their business doing what they love and aren’t even trying to play against men. Men are the ones fantasizing about putting women in “their place”.
I don’t think their Olympic team could beat either of those boys teams…
When I was in 8th grade we scrimmaged against University of Illinois women's basketball team. We werent even the best in our division, and we beat them by 25 points.
Similar story, when I was in high school I played my freshman year. We scrimmaged against eventual national champions Tennessee, with Candace Parker, Alexis Hornbuckle and the rest. This was the freshman team, not varsity, not junior varsity. It was the easiest game I've ever been a part of. We smoked them handily.
We've all got stories like this. I went to UCONN and we played against their champs often. Breanna Stewart is the closest to 'playing like a man' of anyone. She was still not that good. We all could play above or near the rim. None of them can. @@vicyclopsrho8450
Yea and my team scrimmaged LSU & angel reese in 6th grade and won by 11 it was no sweat tbh🥱
Hahahahaha!!! Good shit!! Lol
Man 😂😂😂😂😂y’all killing me with these stories 😂😂😂😂😂
Confession time: My 8th grade boys basketball team lost a scrimmage game to the... varsity girls team. We were far too enamored with their boobs to really compete. We just wanted them to post us up and try backing us down into the paint. Our biggest concerns was who we would get to guard. For some reason we thought that we had a chance for a date afterwards. We went like 5-15 on the season and they were in the state final four.
Was waiting for someone to write something like this.
Through this confession you set more of us free to be sincere about our priorities during a male/female game😂
Lmaoo
"we thought that we had a chance for a date afterwards" - what?! No date?! Those girls were so mean-spirited it's astounding!
Getting low to rub it in the right spot.
My sophomore year, our b team basketball varsity (which I was on at the time) scrimmaged the starting varsity basketball girls team. We beat them by 30 and held them to under 10 points in the first half. That same basketball girls team went on to win state and go undefeated in the process. Our starting varsity basketball team didn’t even make the playoffs.
The men shown from 2:30 to 2:50 are quite the specimens, aren't they? So alpha and dominant.... at spilling cheap beer on themselves. So much facepalm.
I'm 6'3 and only played basketball my freshman year of high school (mostly played volleyball and I rode the bench for basketball lol) so I'm not much of a hooper but I am athletic. Freshman year of college during a pick-up game I ended up playing against a girl that was a former mcdonalds all-american and current D1 player at the time (her teammate who was also D1 was on her pick-up team as well), and although she was very good, my natural athleticism was more than enough to physically dominate her on the court. Now when I look at a team full of actual D1/NBA prospects , there's no way I see them losing to any womens team ever
Showing Vince McMahan smelling that money was genius editing!
As a varsity bench warmer on a no name school, I was on the practice squad for the women’s team at Miami University, in Oxford, Ohio, (which happens to be a D1 school). The coaches were telling me not to go too hard cuz I was getting too many steals, deflections, blocks, etc. I was like 6’3” 190 at the time so not even physically super big or dominant by any means.
You were Steph Curry & Russel Westbrook 😂
You were no bench warmer that game, you were Michael Jordan that game.
@@AlalpogPretty much..😂😂😂
For you to even be apart of a basketball 🏀 you have enough skills to be out there.. You wouldn't have got chosen in the first place..
I can tell you at 3 24-hr fitness courts in my area, I've encountered at least 20-30 juco/D2/D3/and even high school ballers that are very good (numbers are actually higher). cherry pick any 7-12 of those ballers to fill all positions with a solid bench and they can WHOOP any WNBA team.
Of course. It's funny that we're even having to inform some people of this.
@@AnHebrewChild fuck man... have the women load their team with WNBA all stars or 2024 WNBA champs play a loaded team of juco/D2/D3/ high school ballers. same results.. men (or boys lol) win.
A good friend of mine (we both played basketball many years) once told me a story of a WNBA team wanted to play a pickup game against men. The men were of HS and JC experience and couldn’t be taller than 6’. The coach of the team asked the men to “stop blocking shots” when the score got to 45-0.
Destroyed.
Literally never happened I guarantee that is made up 😂
@@TrevJ91 Yeah the 'HS and JC' experience but couldn't be taller than 6' gave it away. What you found all the smallest PG you could find?
Martina Navratilova was dominating women’s tennis and someone said she wouldn’t be in the top 200 if men were included in the rankings. She agreed
Forget Martina. Serena already lost to a 200ish man
That was Serina not Martina I think
@@billprezioso3677 that’s what I said
@@senorfrog5605 I’m talking about the guy who posted this not you lol
@@billprezioso3677 it might have been both but it was definitely Martina. It’s in an interview from 1985. She said her tennis coach routinely beat her. She said she had a chance against a guy she named who was a solder hitter but a better player than a lesser male player who could serve hard. She said returning that serve would be very difficult for a woman
When I was in the 8th grade, our high school varsity girls' team wanted to play against us and talked trash about how they would beat us. They were a solid team, having gone 14-6 in the regular season. We tripled their score, winning 86 to 28. It would likely be much worse than this.
The Bobby Riggs tennis match was not a real match. He was 55 years old and was in dept to his bookies. He threw the match to get from under his gambling bets. Jimmy Conners who was also old played Martina Navratilova and smoked her even with only being given 1 serve while Martina had 2 and Jimmy had to play with doubles court while Martina played single.
The college my dad worked at used to have a “staff vs women’s team” match. The faculty wiped the floor with them so bad every single time they stopped doing it. Like. 50 year old dads literally and figuratively dunking on those women. Their games were fun to watch, great fundamentals and coaching, but like others said, I would bet everything I have on those HS boys if that game ever happened.
I think that's a little exaggeration....50 year old dads??? Maybe 30ish year old dads. I ca. Think of four 50 year Olds who I've seen dunk. Wilt. Jordan. Dominique...Shaq
@@Shawn-ho6deI still play ball (almost 60), and, yes, we have had dudes come in at 50+ and dunk. Maybe not like they did in high school or as young adults, but they could still dunk. I could grab the rim until a few years ago (knees caught up with me). And I'm nobody compared to some of the folks who have shown up.
@georgeklimes7604 I am very impressed. I think that is amazing to see someone dunking at 50. That is cool to hear you have friends that can still do that.
@@Shawn-ho6de Thanks. There are some of us out there who can still do it - but not a lot! LOL
When I was in Jr High, the girls basketball team practiced during 5th period. My PE was at 5th period. We played two exhibition games against the girls basketball team. They play very mechanical. That being said, I think a decent males high-school varsity basketball team could beat an WNBA team. I'll go to extremes that a men's pickup basketball team could beat most mid-major D1 girls college basketball programs.
Men's pickup team can beat 90's bull never who in there 😂
@@KALICOE Try English next time?
@@KALICOEwhat were you trying to say?
I'm actually intrigued. It sounds interesting.
In my sophomore year of high school, our Colorado state championship team's starting lineup was taller than the Denver Nuggets starting team that year.
What year?
@@Starias5 1976. Manual HS Thunderbolts.
Everyone knows Riggs threw that game cause he had gambling problems. The only thing you have to do is make sure the boys don't throw it and aren't too embarrassed to destroy the women that they coast and take it easy.
Yep, even the documentary on it said he throw it 😂
She was also like still in her prime playing days and he was well out of his, by like 20 yrs. An inverse of that was the williams sisters-Karsten Brasch debacle; they claimed they could beat any male player outside the top 200, so Brasch took the challenge as the 203rd ranked player, and smoked Venus 6-2 and Serena 6-1, at 31 yrs old. Female professional athletes perform at slightly below high school boys level, and it's not a crazy thing for people that watch sports to understand.
Play the middle school prospects
@@jacksondolly3248 That's another fact I often forget that isn't spoken of. From the old footage she looks as old or older than him but he was way past expiration. The thing that makes the Williams crap more infuriating is I think they played him around the same time she admitted on TV she couldn't compete with the top several hundred men. So, she either already had figured out first hand, or did soon after she couldn't. Then just a few years ago she jumps with everyone else on Macnroe for saying the same freaking thing. I also didn't discover they actually played that dude until these last few months. So I'm guessing many don't know.
@@jacksondolly3248She then revised her statement to outside of the top 350(?), and he had fallen in the rankings to there in the next couple months so he said he'd play them again.
Sure men can beat women in sports but young girls who participate in sports see a lot of health benefits. These comparisons between men and women's athletic abilities are one way that girls are discouraged from trying or putting in any effort ("you'll never be good, even if you practice and get as good as you can be").
It's not embarrassing for a woman to be beaten by a man, but it's embarrassing for the man if he has to make sure that everyone knows she lost.
Since the WNBA players have so much confidence in their game, why not put them in a match against the NBA players? like in the all stars game (NBA all star vs WNBA all star) or including the WNBA all stars into the mix during team selection by the captains
Just an idea
You already have this in the celebrity all-star game....
Nah that would be boring. That would be the equivalent of putting a state HS Championship boys team up against a 5th grader team. No one would be interested.
Awful ideal
Yea, that wouldn't work, they let slappys like Justin Bieber look good against them, it needs to be a real game were they actually try if they want to go there.
I’d even go on to say that you could get the best team of freshman and sophomore high school team and they’d beat the Aces by double digits. No doubt in my mind. I’d watch the hell outa that game.
The WNBA shold really capitalize on this opportunity. As rational people have been saying for years to generate revenue you need to have a quality product and/or be able to draw people into watching. Here is the opportunity to draw people in and have them watch. I haven't ordered anything on pay per view for years. I would 100% pay to watch.
the WNBA has too much pride. they would rather run at a negative then actually generate revenue but getting destroyed in the process
It would ruin them lmao they might make a lot of money at first but the league would lose the little respect it has
I've never ever ever ever in my life bought a pay-per-view for an event and I absolutely would for this...However, it'd be more fun attending a bar or venue that's showing the match. I'd get to drink and eat while being out enjoying myself and the slaughter that would take place.
This is the most stupid proposition ever. How would you react competing against babies? You would lose all your credibility. Of course the WNBA champions are going to wreck any high school team, it's not even up to debate. What is up to debate is WNBA's image following that event, which is nowhere near good.
Im not even basketball fan and I would watch it XD
2016 chino hills vs all wnba team who u got
MY experience wasn't WNBA, but involved a starting center for a top ten NCAA D1 player. I was in my mid 30,s playing pick up games twice a week with a bunch of older businessmen, lawyers and doctors etc. I was definitely one of the youngest. The college girl that played in our scrimmage was 6'1" and all of our "big men" were in their early to mid 1950s. She was unable to do much against these guys who were the same height or slightly taller. I was very surprised as I was very familiar with this woman who was the best player on her HS state championship team. It was surprised that she wasn't much more effective against us. BTW, I am 5'6" and was not good enough to make my HS varsity team.
To make this game even more interesting, why not play a WNBA "All-Star" team against a state high school champion team? That way, the WNBA could include the "best of the best" from their league. Now that would be a game I would gladly pay to see! 👀
My wife just said this lol. I’d still bet on the boys team…
@@MrG__2 I would too - especially since Clay Travis would get to pick the high school state champion the WNBA would have to play against.
State championship team?... LOL. ANY highschool from a decent sized city would destroy a WNBA all-star team. We used to play with a future WNBA player when she still played ball at Michigan State (she was drafted like a year later). This was our church team. And she was around our level of play. But again, our church team... our best player BARELY made our Highschool team and rode the bench most of the season.
That would be worse for the women. It would be better for a squad that has played together and have their team game on lock because having a bunch of individual all stars won’t mesh right away and def aren’t going to over power the boys.
@@SaltyChip uhhhh no. A team of Lebron, Durant, Curry, Jokic, etc etc will stomp on any starting 5 NBA team. what you smoking?
Yowww
You did Ben Simmons dirty with that picture of his 😂😂😂😂
Bro I’m dying
You don't need to be a high school state champ team to be a serious contender against a WBNA squad. For a high school team, even if you capped the height of the center at 6'3 and all other players capped at 5'10", the high schoolers would still have a decent chance to consistently win
Well that would have to be a REALLY small HS to have a 6'3" Center and nobody else over 5'10". My son's HS Varsity team has ONE player under 6' and he is the starting SG (as well as the starting Varsity QB). At 6'4" my son plays SF.
People act like WNBA players are small lol
They're forwards are 6''3"-6'7"
In most sports, men would dominate, but basketball can be played and eon by the lesser athletic team constantly. The smarter team wins 99% of the time, and I think WNBA players would be a lot smarter than a high school team lol. There's plenty of videos online of WNBA players smoking guys, and they do it because they're smarter.
in 2017, the US international women’s soccer world cup winning team did lose a scrimmage match against Dallas FC U-15 boys soccer team by 2-5,
Wrexham a 4th league men’s soccer team from the U.K. won against a U.S. women’s soccer team 12-0 this year.
he mentioned that in the video
@@SelectaMedia yea and being isn't even that important in soccer.
I'm not even sure you have to limit it to 'state champions'. I've been to several WNBA games from different franchises. I really don't think any of them could beat my son's HS Varsity team he plays on 3 games out of 5. Six of them can dunk with 3 of them 'dunk contest' level dunkers. They can shoot with several of them having NBA 3pt range. They are pretty good passers as a group and a couple of them give you a 'wow did you see that' pass at least once a game. They can all go 'coast to coast' in 4 dribbles or less. The shortest of them is 5'9" tall, but the next shortest is 6' and at least four of them (including my son) are an honest 6'4"+ in bare feet. My son and a few of his teammates played against a few men's league teams in a mini-tournament a few weekends ago and they smoked those men (and we're not talking out of shape, 50+ guys like me... we're talking 20 and early 30 something athletic guys who play regularly). They scrimmaged their own girl's Varsity team (and those young ladies made it into the state playoffs) and just crushed them playing about 80% speed. I just don't see it. No knock on the women who play WNBA. They worked and continue to work extremely hard in their sport. They are some of the best female ballers on the planet, but biology doesn't play according to 'politically correct' rules. It just is.
truth
Yup, God created two genders check the DNA and all biological evidence 😂😂You can not defy God ony deny God.
Travis is covering his bases. There could be some H.S. boys team from some H.S. with like a ~100 student enrollment where they barely can fill out an 11 man roster because so few kids come out for BB, and the WNBA could beat them. True, it is overkill for an actual state championship competitive boys HS team to face the WNBA.
@azul93gt38 I disagree. Trust me when I say this. The current boys basketball team from my high-school, which is an exceptional high-school team winning three out of the last 5 state championships probably would handily beat any WNBA team right now. The athleticism, the strength and how quick those boys can move would be too much in my opinion. Hard to beat biology....
That’s the problem they don’t work hard
It's more than likely that Bobby Riggs threw the match against Billie Jean King: he was the overwhelming favourite to win, having beaten Margaret Court without even raising a hint of a sweat, and the guy was riddled with debt. So he would have got pretty great odds on losing. (Indeed, if you watch the game, or any one of several analyses of the encounter, you'll see that he changed his style of play from the earlier game against Margaret Court to something much less effective. More than a little fishy...)
King HAD to throw that match for a simple reason: it was WHO he owed money to. He got involved with some rather "sketchy" financiers. That being said, the promoters also had a vested interest in King winning; they wanted the women's game to gain more respect, and if their 'best' couldn't even beat a 55 year old has-been, it would set back women's tennis to the point where it'd become a sideshow. Riggs not only had a strong incentive (i.e., to not be fitted with "cement overshoes") to lose, he was a gentleman who actually liked women and was happy to "take one" to help their cause in sports.
Exactly 😊
It's weird that this is even a question. My wife says things are heavy that I can pick up without even noticing. Honestly, it's pretty trashy to talk shit about the WNBA since it's obvious. I guess they brought it on themselves, though.
Its not even just athleticism, boys are far more skilled too😂
Well that isn't true. I've played against NCAA female players when I was a college player. They have very high level skills. That isn't in question. The athleticism just wipes away that skill level at the extremes. It doesn't matter if you are a great ball handler if the guy guarding you is a decent on ball defender but is WAY faster than you. He's just going to take it from you. It doesn't matter if you have good footwork and can block out well. If the guy opposing you is 8 inches taller, has 20 inches of vertical jump on you, and is both stronger and quicker off the ground. He is going to out rebound your ass.
@@guiwhiz It is true, boys are far more skilled than girls at basketball....
When I was 14, I played the national champion U18 women’s soccer team (which was filled with D1 commits) as we were part of the same club. We played a 45 minute game in which we beat them 7-0.
That's how wnba should be every year. Winning team of the season vs High schooler state champ in ppv. Since no one watches wnba. That would help.
😂😂😂 I would definitely watch that
When I was in grade nine, our boys team coach was ALSO the coach of the #1 university team in Canada - University of Waterloo. He brought his girls in for an exhibition match. Keep in mind not only were we a bunch of gangly 14 year olds, we had NEVER played together before. During the match, our group of grade 9 boys were faster, stronger, more athletic than the girls but not as refined in the shooting department as these 19-24 year old girls.
We DESTROYED them. It was not close.
Just to be clear it is well known by anybody that is knowledgeable about tennis that Bobby Riggs threw that match against BJK. He had just beat world #1 Margaret Court in a match 6-2, 6-1 and completely destroyed her and she was better than BJK. I don't even know much about tennis and I've watched the match where they played and Riggs clearly is throwing shots left and right. He must have made a huge bet against himself and cashed in on it.
And he was 55yrs old at the time.
@@handsomeX Yes which makes it much, much worse.
@@joeldriver-sp2rg Margaret was not better then BJK
@@kalipooh3388 Why was she ranked #1 in the world then?
@@joeldriver-sp2rgbecause she was better. Lol
I played a 5 on 5 pickup game during college and guarded a 6’6” German woman. I’m 6,1”. I out boarded a her and held her to one bucket. She got very upset. My bball experience was as a bench warmer on a second tier 8th grade team. I found out later she played D1 and was on the German national team.
😂😂 yea it's a big difference in what we can do compared to wat they can do.
A 16 year old Mike Tyson would KO Manny Pacquiao in his prime.
Weight classes exists for a reason.
If we can respect that, we can respect the WNBA.
The most underrated comment of all times, well said sir. Bravo.
That’s….nowhere near a logical comparison. It doesn’t even make sense in this discussion. Basketball doesn’t have weight classes….
It's the whining women who have no respect
@@RealSavvy813 He's not saying that.... he saying there are physical levels to these things...
There are wnba players that say they are better than nba players,.. they need a reality check..
This delusion causes social problems because they all think they deserve more than their skills
A good group of 14 year old boys would destroy a group of the best WNBA stars. If we could get the young men to forget that they're women and play with full physicality, I doubt the women would even score. I doubt any of the women would even survive game without serious injuries.
I think the biggest problem for the women in a game like this would be, even if the boys ended destroying the WNBA team, while that particular game would generate tons of money, in the long run it would completely destroy the WNBA as a whole. The viewership for them would probably decrease by half if not more and that's something they simply cannot afford in order to sustain itself.
I doubt it as there is a female soccer team that went against a team of high school boys and lost and I believe that team was the US soccer team which is still somewhat popular to this day
The WNBA is already subsidized to the hilt, and that's not going to stop. The bad loss would however hurt the media's attempt to sell their "equal outcomes" agenda.
Dude, The WNBA has lost, on average, at least $10 mil a year...in each of the 25 years it's been in existence. Poker reruns from The 2003 WSOP Main Event...routinely gets higher ratings than any live WNBA game. I seriously doubt that getting trounced by a high school boys state championship team..would sink their ratings even lower.
If anything...perhaps it would spur The WNBA to make two changes that needs to occur to get men (because women dont watch sports, in general) to start watching in any kind of numbers:
1. lower the rim to 9 feet. Dunking has to be a part of the game. Dunking makes the game more exciting. It creates emotion. Fans love it.
2. Play bikini basketball. Bikini volleyball is a sport. Seeing females playing basketball while wearing bikinis...would definitely increase the ratings.
Or....keep losing $10 mil a year on a sport that hardly any sane sports fan watches.
They can't sustain itself as it is, they have been SUBSIDIZED BY THE NBA THEIR ENTIRE EXISTENCE!
Well they already don't sustain themselves, they are propped up by NBA money.
I was a 6' high school basketball player who sat way at the end of the bench. At the time I went to the gym and found a group of women who could play and got involved in a 3 on 3. It turned out that they were the womans basketball team from the University of Idaho. Now the truth was that I was way to fast for them to cover me out top and too strong for their 6'3 center to guard underneath. I could literally do anything that I wanted. Now they weren't the WNBA but I was a bench player from a mediocre high school boys team. If I had played for them I would have been a superstar and would have lead them in every single statistical category. I would also remind you that I was younger than they were at the time as well.
I would definitely watch that game. By the way, your video edits are getting better and better. Keep it up!
Thank you 🙏
@@TooLazyToHoopYou did Booz kinda dirty tho.
Where I went to school in suburban New York, I would say the best basketball players in my junior high school would have beaten these WNBA players pretty easily. Forget about the bigger, better high school guys. These junior high guys were simply excellent players, and I don't even mean the guys on the school basketball team, but just a lot of other good athletes who loved to play basketball but didn't go out for the basketball team, and might have been just a hair less in talent. At this time, when they were 14 years old, maybe 15 for some, the tallest guys I'm talking about might have been 5'8," but most were shorter than that.
I'm quite sure they would have killed these girls in the WNBA. For one thing, most of them had extraordinary vertical leaps, possibly were not such great outside shooters as the women pros, but far better on the inside with great moves, and toughness. Also faster feet. Really, just far greater skills. None of these guys that I'm talking about could dunk the ball at that age, but that wouldn't have made a difference. They'd still win with ease.
My grade 9 boys coach also coached the championship women’s university team down the road. We had played together for less than a week… and we DECIMATED the championship women’s team. It wasn’t close.
As a longtime basketball ref and head coach of both boys and girls high school teams I can wholeheartedly attest that the disparity of talent between the boys and girls is deep - abyss deep. So much so that if the undefeated Class A 20-0 girls champion played the 0-20 Class D bottom feeder boys team, the boys would win a a rout.
In other words, the worst boys team would still easily beat the best girls team each and every time.
Just the way it is, and the WNBA needs to come to grips with this reality. Doesn't mean the girls can't compete against each other and enjoy what sports afford those who play, again, just the way it is.
In high school our girls basketball team were state champions. Our boys hockey team played them in a basketball game and beat them.
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Please, please, PLEEEAAASE Somebody make this happen!!! This needs to happen!!! This video is a tease. I need to see this game!
You want to embarrass women that bac? Remember, your mom is a woman!
please make this happen NOW NOW.....
WNBA won’t agree to it. News would get out and they know it’d be a bad look if they get wiped by 50 points by some 16-17 year olds lol
Why? We all know what would happen. Why is it that it seems everyone has this fetish of seeing woman embarrassed?
@@theboss1031I just want them to shut up.
My niece is one of the best basketball players in our section. My son is a good player (he made varsity as an 8th grader) but is younger and isn't nearly as accomplished as my niece. They are very close and are always playing pickup at the Y, typically on the same team. In the rare occasion they play 1 on 1 it isn't even a contest. He NEVER goes full out against her and still has no issue in any heads up game. I'm sorry but boys and girls, and men and women, are different. Women have their strengths, and are better than men at certain things, and men have their strengths, and are better than women at other things.