This video really tied it all together for me after watching/reading dozens of sources trying to explain multicast routing and still struggling to understand how it all works together. Superb presentation! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
Once we are receiving multicast traffic through the RP, it’s possible to switch to the SPT (Source Path Tree). From the diagram , dont see any other alternative paths toward 4 switches.
If I understood correctly, PIN-SM (sparse mode) with multiple trees by source would be lighter, generally speaking, as with PIN-DM (dense mode) the traffic is greater in the PIN area as it assumes all the Hosts want the data from the Rendez-vous points. In what scenarios this wouldn't be the case?
Think about a cable company forwarding each channel as a separate multicast group. There's some big sports event happening that everyone is watching. You don't want to be forwarding all the other channels to everyone in the network, as no one is watching. There would be lots of cases where only a few channels are being watched and you don't want to forward the traffic from all the channels. With dense mode, the routers have to keep pruning themselves out of the tree.
The multicast destination mac address displayed on the lower left side of the video is incorrect. The multicast MAC address is a special value that begins with 01-00-5E in hexadecimal. The remaining portion of the multicast MAC address is created by converting the lower 23 bits (in binary) of the IP multicast group address into 6 hexadecimal characters.
Thank you for pointing this out. I meant to discuss the different addressing and forgot to, in the end. I wanted to discuss the numbering in the conversion and how addresses need to be considered carefully when converting IP multicast addresses to Ethernet multicast addresses. As you say, the last 3 numbers in the IP multicast address are converted to HEX but the high order bit in the 2nd IP address number is dropped. Then that HEX number is prepended with 0x010053. Therefore, if you have a multicast IP address of 224.1.0.2 and another with the multicast IP address of 224.129.0.2, they would both covert to Ethernet multicast address HEX 01:00:53:01:00:02. You don’t want 2 Multicast addresses where the last 3 digits are identical except the 2nd number is off by 128 because that will give you the same Ethernet multicast address. Thank you for raising a very good point.
Great video Barbara. Just one question, do large scale content delivery companies like Netflix, Stan etc. actually use multicast to deliver packets? These types of companies are always used as multicast examples but do they actually do it that way? I have heard of Netflixes OCA infrastructure but is that just a combination of unicast/anycast?
Thanks Carcadia - with IP TV, everyone is watching the same show at the same time - the exact same packets are being streamed everywhere - that's why you need multicast. For video on demand, through the cable companies or for services like Netflix, those really are more unicast streams. You may be the only person in the world who started that show at exactly that time - there really isn't the need for multicast. For Netflix, it's more important to have video servers closer to the end customers to service the unicast traffic.
Thanks. Ethernet addresses with a 1 in the least significant bit of the first octet are treated as multicast traffic. So the 01: makes it a multicast address. Thanks for the feedback.
I gotta say this is the best explanation I have ever come across on this.
Thank you! I appreciate that!
Agreed. Thank you for posting this. I found your explanation very helpful.
One of the best explanations of Multicast, PIM-SM, and IGMP Snooping
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This video really tied it all together for me after watching/reading dozens of sources trying to explain multicast routing and still struggling to understand how it all works together. Superb presentation! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
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Excellent insight, real world examples help a lot.
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Amazing high level explanation! It really puts into perspective why and how everything works together the way it does.
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Exactly the explaination im looking for. Simple and easy to understand. Thank you !
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Great explanation of IP multicast. Thanks!
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This was amazing. Thank you
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Excellent explanation of Multicast, Thank you.
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I finally understood multicast topic. Thank you!!
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Excellent explanation of something I’ve always misunderstood.
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Concise and helpful :)
Thank you very much :)
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Perfect explanation, loved it!
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Once we are receiving multicast traffic through the RP, it’s possible to switch to the SPT (Source Path Tree). From the diagram , dont see any other alternative paths toward 4 switches.
Well Explained .. Thank you. So much
So nice of you
Awesome! thanks so much! keep the videos coming
Thanks Micah!
does the rendezvous point keep changing when more igmp joins come in at some later point in time from different switches ?
nice and well explained !
Thanks!
If I understood correctly, PIN-SM (sparse mode) with multiple trees by source would be lighter, generally speaking, as with PIN-DM (dense mode) the traffic is greater in the PIN area as it assumes all the Hosts want the data from the Rendez-vous points. In what scenarios this wouldn't be the case?
Think about a cable company forwarding each channel as a separate multicast group. There's some big sports event happening that everyone is watching. You don't want to be forwarding all the other channels to everyone in the network, as no one is watching. There would be lots of cases where only a few channels are being watched and you don't want to forward the traffic from all the channels. With dense mode, the routers have to keep pruning themselves out of the tree.
The multicast destination mac address displayed on the lower left side of the video is incorrect. The multicast MAC address is a special value that begins with 01-00-5E in hexadecimal. The remaining portion of the multicast MAC address is created by converting the lower 23 bits (in binary) of the IP multicast group address into 6 hexadecimal characters.
Thank you for pointing this out. I meant to discuss the different addressing and forgot to, in the end. I wanted to discuss the numbering in the conversion and how addresses need to be considered carefully when converting IP multicast addresses to Ethernet multicast addresses.
As you say, the last 3 numbers in the IP multicast address are converted to HEX but the high order bit in the 2nd IP address number is dropped. Then that HEX number is prepended with 0x010053. Therefore, if you have a multicast IP address of 224.1.0.2 and another with the multicast IP address of 224.129.0.2, they would both covert to Ethernet multicast address HEX 01:00:53:01:00:02. You don’t want 2 Multicast addresses where the last 3 digits are identical except the 2nd number is off by 128 because that will give you the same Ethernet multicast address.
Thank you for raising a very good point.
That was helpful, thank you indeed
Glad it was helpful!
Great video Barbara. Just one question, do large scale content delivery companies like Netflix, Stan etc. actually use multicast to deliver packets?
These types of companies are always used as multicast examples but do they actually do it that way?
I have heard of Netflixes OCA infrastructure but is that just a combination of unicast/anycast?
Thanks Carcadia - with IP TV, everyone is watching the same show at the same time - the exact same packets are being streamed everywhere - that's why you need multicast. For video on demand, through the cable companies or for services like Netflix, those really are more unicast streams. You may be the only person in the world who started that show at exactly that time - there really isn't the need for multicast. For Netflix, it's more important to have video servers closer to the end customers to service the unicast traffic.
Good video, Mutlicast mac seems wrong
Thanks. Ethernet addresses with a 1 in the least significant bit of the first octet are treated as multicast traffic. So the 01: makes it a multicast address. Thanks for the feedback.
@@BarbaraAnne shouldn't it be 01:00:5E:xx:xx:xx ?
thanks I finally understand xd
Great! Thanks