I'm a 70 year old american and I love watching you guys!!!! You are so smart it baffles the mind. I used to race cars so I know what it takes to make projects like these-thanks for sharing and inspiring!
I've avoided getting an electric bike for years because nobody made one with the power and range I wanted. You just built the one I've been looking for.
What you want isnt going to happen. Even if you have the third world make a video lying about 10kw of power. Jesus, people. Don't be so fucking stupid.
@@falsedragon33 Well that's a bit rude. It must be stressful having your encyclopedic brain. But it most certainly is going to happen. There are already electric motorcycles with excellent power and range. And Tesla is working on an electric semi truck. That's a heck of a lot harder than doubling the range of a bicycle. Be patient. It's coming.
I am looking at building a three wheeled version of this electric powered bike for around the neighborhood cruising. I found the video quite inspiring and appreciate you posting it. Keep up the good work. It is inventors and innovators that keep out world turning!
Your instability is due to the battery placement being mostly rearward. It should be redistributed to be closer to the center of gravity for greater stability
Yes. I have a pushbike with a cantilevered basket mounted on the rear rack. When this is full of groceries or whatever the front wheel becomes unstable. Dangerous - too much weight in the wrong place.
His stability issue is solved by NOT GOING THAT FAST. The stability is directly related to survive-ability. There is no question about stopping. It's gunna happen in a planned or unplanned way... but at 70km/h. 🤯 The motor is always gear engaged to wheel, unless it falls off. I seriously question the design integrity of that motor mount, the welds, and it's ability to resist torque forces, especially doing the death wobbles. But, what a sight to behold... dragging the motor along by the cables... at even 40km/h let alone 70 😆 Yeah, mass distribution... having a lower CG would always help more so than forward aft location. Moving the battery box so it isn't rubbing on the driven wheel... would be a good idea.
Not gonna lie i thought this was a fake video, but when i did my research i found out that alternators, in fact, can be used as motors, Great work, i'm gonna do this when i get one on my hands
motors can be used as alternators and vice versa, but there is some problems related to it. That's whe some guys decided to make a dedicated motor for wheels
DIY King, Good day, This is the 2nd video on Alternator conversion of you Demo's & your sincere efforts, your try to find out is 100 % correct, trial & errors always in the game, keep it up, good luck.👍🏿
@Philly Unrau we need r cornered, better we have to rethink Our lifestyle, Atlease for next 10 years. Other wise our next Generation will suffering a lot. Please, take care
I managed to get a much more usable result with my e-bike conversion. It will comfortably ride at 80 kmh+ without any wobbles. The only downside is the motor will overheat within a few minutes at that kind of power level. I mostly use it up to 60 kmh and it will beat cars at the lights easily.
Making it gear driven is absolutely wild. If I were you I'd space the alternator back and put on a toothed belt to drive it. This was an awesome build!
You guys rock!!! No truly as a fabricator mechanic I like your work very clean strong and precise with limited tools!! Super smart!!! Love to see more!!!
They do do a remarkable job with limited tools, but precise??? Let’s say reasonably accurate considering…They might have less tools soon (fingers/hands/eyes/head!) if they don’t learn to clamp what they drill, 😂 or at least shove a screwdriver in the base slot to stop the job spinning 🌪🩸😜🤟🚑🦯 🤣
I think the project represents thinking out of the box, maybe out of the entire workshop, and it looks like you guys have a lot of fun doing them. That is the best part of your videos. Thanks a bunch.
Love it, i also can see that the bike test was loved as well, great project and great potential for grander projects. But the key lesson here is the amount of upscaling reclaiming and repurposing that has gone into the project so far.
It is the weight of the alternator on one side of the axle that makes you ride. It would be necessary to put an object of volume and equivalent weight on the other side so that it could roll normally. It will even be much more stable than before!
Nice to see something on the road and working...most of my ideas don't make it off the notebook page. Good to see your generation with a full understanding of what it takes to bring a project to fruition. Excellent.
This is absolutley amazing, converting a bicyle to an electric bike witha a car alternator this is just mind blowing you are such a talented person, hope to see more improved version of this project, keep it up
@@hustlaz2k Well, at the beginning of the video itself, they stated that they converted that alternator into a brushless motor. They even provided a link to their video of that process.
Well done for your brilliant effort. May I suggest a couple of things. I would look at mounting the alternator by the pedal area and using a belt drive or similar to the rear wheel therefore giving you a more centralised mass. Following on from that, the battery pack would be much better slung under the main frame spar and would help with stability for your bike and reduce the speed wobbles experienced. Your efforts are nothing short of inspiring and you guys should be very proud of yourselves, just centralize and lower your overall mass for a much better handling bike. Front forks would also be worth changing to damped forks instead of rigid. Subbed, and sending you best wishes.
That greenery and clean roads, where in Karachi were you guys testing? Near airport? Can't think of any other place in Karachi with so many trees and clean and paved roads..
You guys really know your stuff that bike is amazing with that set up and the range it has if great. Will definitely watch how you converted the Alternator as I came across this by chance.👍
Awesome 😎 i think the wobbling you mentioned is due to improper weight distribution. The alternator and the battery is on the rear wheel. Also, the rider sits closer to the rear than front. You should aim for a weight distribution of 50% for each wheel.
The problem is with the structural integrity of this bike. The power to body ratio does not match. This bike has a threshold speed limit above which it started to experience the wobble of death. Happens with the conventional motorbikes too.
@@TheEngrAsad Could be the centrifugal force on the spoked wheel at high speed pulling it out of shape. That's what causes speed wobbles in motorcycles
I bet the looped small wire you used to connect the cells in the battery get pretty hot under 30+ amps of continuous load, unless you have multiple sets of cells in parallel. Nice build!
Modify the sterring stem ,add caster. Adjust rake and trail angle. For stability Or build a new frame. Keep the position of battery more towards front wheel for more cog
Correct on the battery placement. That's why when I bought my conversion kit for my bike with the hub motor, I bought a battery that I could mount in the middle of the bike to offset the 25lbs of the motor in the rear. Putting the heavy battery in the back would stress the frame to much when making sharper turns. When I make turns now it feels normal other than the extra weight on the bike but it's balanced well. I read that others noticed problems with to much weight in the rear.
You're hired! I hope you turn these bike conversions into a factory for them. You can obviously make the frame structure that you need to hold the weight. I just recently entered the ebike world. I have a very cheap, but apparently reliable step over ebike and am waiting on a more expensive step thru ebike. I've yet to ride either of them. I am 76 and will need the step thru to start riding. I Iive in a hilly city and I'm looking forward to driving the back roads of this town. 💚 go green!
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Great job guys you guys are very talented I am an electrician and also an inventor and engineer I love your concept and what you have done I believe you have a very marketable item and I believe you should apply for a patent to what you have done to protect your work if you have not already done so!
Can they do a patent application with car parts and parts from other brands? Not sure about patent laws, I thought you can build stuff similar but it has to be different from original product but use your own custom parts? But I'm not sure
Great video well presented . It's nice to see the teachers who not only teach , but actually do. You guys make the world a better place in every way . Peace : )
I’m a white guy from the United States , I’ve always been impressed with you East indie guys as your creativity is very impressive. BTW- The relationship you have with your little buddy is really cool, keep up the good work guys. God bless.
I've been itching to tackle a "e-bike" project using a old Razor pedal powered "Big Wheel" style trike to make what other videos call a Drift Trike. I've watched dozens of other videos but only this one of yours and Still you've given me more USEFUL ideas than the others. Awesome, Thank You! I've subscribed and I plan to check out your other videos while I finish gathering everything I need. I promise I'll document the progress as best I can but with a basically non-existent budget, it'll be a while before I have anything to show. 👍🏻
The build is interesting, but I don't see how this is a 10,000 W alternator (per the video title). For one, you have a 200A board controlling it (which is roughly 12V x 200A = 2,400W). And from what I see, that is a 150 or even 100A alternator, which is 1800 to 1200W. Even with modifications which will bring the power lower still, it is a nice build, but I think you are off by a factor of about 10x.
You’re right- it’s not 10kw. Probably an 80 to 120 amp alternator, which typically outputs 14 volts more or less. So optimistically, a 1500 watt. Maybe he just put an extra zero on and meant 1000 watt? Or clickbait algorithm demanded exaggeration!
it is a 200a WATERCOOLED controller, that he didn't watercool. this bike runs at an estimated 40-60 amps from what i can see, he is either trolling or just doesn't care if his numbers are correct. the bike is great, but the stupid numbers are infuriating because now if someone makes a 3000w ebike with a 4000w capable battery on it, they will look like a chump to people who don't know what they are looking at. THIS IS CANCER.
You're a scientist for Tesla. I think you're smarter than my dad who has finite in calculus elementary. Even some people with Masters degree cannot even assemble this kind of stuff. You guys are awesome
Hi, 7 years ago I was working for a small company that was selling electric bicycles. We converted normal 26´´ mountain bicycle into a e-bike. 1000 W motor was able to ride it at constant 45km/h. Please get a bicycle with much bigger rims and than try it again.I think you will be able to go 100 km/h without any problem.
100 km on a bicycle? That would scare the hell out of me! However I once drove my Mother's old 1964 Pontiac at 193 km/hr (120 miles per hour), so maybe I would be crazy enough to drive a bike at 100 km/hr.
Great project! And bonus points for that cockatiel screaming in the background! I've had many 'tiels throughout my life and that sound is not only unmistakable, but also makes me smile :D
when possibilities become probabilities, you are watching the right channels. this is a different type of moto-bicycle than I'm used to - most people build them like a motorcycle (Like the ones I ride)
Great idea and execution! If I had to critique one thing it would be to make sure when welding to get one consistent bead whenever possible for the most strength. What I and any other professional welder does is tack the ends of the work in place, remove slag, then run one consistent bead along the joint. I understand it's not always possible to get one consistent bead but it really does make a huge difference. Other than that small note I think you killed it. I truly am inspired. What a cool way to repurpose an alternator. I love that you make as much as you can yourself. Like using all those power cells in parallel. Really cool stuff!
the numbers are all wrong. it does what you can see it doing, but the numbers are all wrong. the video claims 10000 watts, he is using two batteries that are capable of 1500 watts each. this makes people who do projects and give real numbers look bad. this is not good.
@@kght222 I honestly hadnt even thought about it/realized their numbers were inflated . I know enough about batteries from building amps and guitar pedals and being an e cigarette user to have realized it but for some reason I didnt. Good eye! Edit: I'm not going to rewatch it but I thought in the video they were using many cells to make their packs then a bank. It's likely why I just assumed they were being honest. But with the seriously inflated battery/cell ratings perpetuated by the companys that sell Sony, Panasonic etc. cells for all we know they are going by what the seller claimed the batteries wattage/mah's were rather than testing the cells themselves which for most things cant simply be done with a MM accurately anyways. But the accurate tolerances for all the major cells are readily available online and if they are smart enough to make this video then we have to assume they likely did know the real tolerances.
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You should put a small water reservoir heatsink for a cpu on the speed controller and let the thermal differential cycle the small amount of fluid, and it would get rid of the air gap inside the controller and allow more heat transfer to the heatsink you added
As a safety measure, your car speedometer probably shows your speed higher than it actually is (in some places the speedometer is allowed to show a speed up to 10% higher than the actual speed, but is not allowed to show a slower speed). Your phone GPS speed is probably more accurate.
The speedometer are quite accurate if calibrated properly, they are mechanical. Porshe instruments are so accurate you can determine your speed from the rpm guage.
I work with sspeedometers professionally. The car Speedo is fast, the GPS speedo of your phone is accurate, provided you have been travelling at a steady speed in a straight line for 30 seconds or more. Car Speedos are required by law to never read slow, so the manufacturers of cars typically make them read 7 to 10 percent fast, which gives a safety margin that allows for changes in brands of tyres and tyre wear. For future tests, trust your GPS speedometer on the phone. Just give it 30 seconds at a steady speed to settle out any GPS averaging requirements. 🙂
@@michaelbrownlee9497 RPM gauges are more accurate than speedometers. Historically, manufacturers have designed speedometers to show about 5% higher than people actually are driving. This is so they think they are going faster than they actually are, since everyone drives above the posted speed limits. This has changed with modern vehicles, since they are now tied in to GPS locators with navigation systems. Now they need to show true speeds.
You must always use lubricant when drilling through metal, steel, aluminum, iron and stainless, as well as drilling within the proper speed and feed ranges
@@jodyguilbeaux8225 Speed and feed and tool type are going to be more important than coolant. A nice drill can do hundreds of holes without coolant, but if the speeds and feeds are wrong it might not even get 1.
I am soooo happy I happened upon you and your videos!! You both are awesome to watch and to learn from, and I love the bits of humor tossed in for fun. Please keep posting your genius for us all to learn from. Now I want to make my own E-bike!
@old cars trashed bms has overdischarge protection feature, so not a surprise if bms limits the full potential of the battery. In this video, they used Li-Po instead of Li-Ion which can go puffy then explode if it's overdischarged.
Watching the look on the test riders face when he came back, hair all flying every which way was the best lol! Great job fellas, thank you for sharing this!
Hi I came across your work by chance and I am subscribing to watch your work. I will be watching you from Turkey. I would like to ask you questions from time to time. Good work for now.
Pure genius! You probably already have the wheel shimmy problem worked out, but I think it has to do with the amount of trail in the steering. You may need to add a small amount of wheel trail, in order to deal with the added speed involved. All the best!
Getting weight away from top tube and headset as this is whats resonating. I learned this no-handing as a kid. My dads bike had a dad basket. Load it up, u better hang on lol
@@SparkyRF Alternators regularly run 120-160 amps in everyday bullshitty cars so if its 160 amps at 12 volts its almost two thousand watts. Even at 120 you're still almost producing 1500 watts of power. This could be a high amperage unit tho, if you spend like a few hundred dollars you can get a 300 amp alternator. These guys have 12 million views on one video im sure they can afford high amp alternators.
Hey Guys ! Nice work so far... I´m a Bike Mechanic and so i got some ideas for you to think about.... Try to mount the Alternator in front of your "Pedals" that would give you more stability and maybe adds a little more stiffness to the Bike Frame. Maybe u also can mount the Batteries to the top tube of the frame. In the End maybe you get a suspension fork fittet. Then try that Highspeed run again =)
Yeah , I am thinking about converting a gas pedal moped to electric pedal moped. I'm def sure it'll carry the weight of batteries ,front ,back or rear. Also , have no problem with the speed (wobbles). If so , minor. Hope this idea helps anyone. To all us diy's , good luck and many happy builds. Keep smiling. it will make your day that much easier. But wait. Why put it off til..... When u can do it today? Remember, Tomorrows not a promise. It's a gamble. Roll the dice boys yeeeeeeehaaaaawwww:)
This is the innovative drive that made America great a 75 ago, Now I see it in India as USA has lost it.. Your people are very smart and creative. I see a bright future for India. Thank You.
What made America great was literacy...Pakistan not India. Clearly stated on the view-counter bar. Yes! I am a pedant. You may have to look that up....but where?
This is certainly proof of concept. Have you given any thought to why the front end wobble increased with speed? Thank you for this video. You guys make science fun!
I had to subscribe after seeing the spinning gear on the drill press 😂 Keep in mind that there will always be trolls that have nothing nice to say. Questions and debates are awesome but some of these pizzants, are a bit much! Don't ever get discouraged in sharing your wonderful projects and ideas. There are many that truly appreciate your efforts..
Great job guys! Nice conversion. you guys made it all look cleanly done to with everything tied down and in it’s right place. I think I’m going to try this conversion myself soon.
I think if you could get the weight of the battery in the frame area, you will get more weight on the front and stop the wobble. NICE DEATH MACHINE! Super Cool!
What got my attention was the huge machine vice you are using to hold down the motor with a propeller. What is the brand name and manufacture of the vice DIY King ???? Thanks VF
I'm really surprised that at 5:19 when you held your bare finger 1 cm from a welding arc, you were actually burned! How is that possible!? LoL Love you guys!
Frankenbike! Love it. Super creative and looks dangerously fun. I think the weak point now would be the wheel/tire dexterity at those speeds. Not to mention the breaks!
Ten kilowatts? How did you measure that? The motors that put out that kind of power are usually liquid cooled to prevent the magnets exceeding the curie point.
Great work 👏 I love what you did here! This is the second time I see you do this same conversion. Someday I'm going to buy one of these bikes from you. 😊
That's super clever. Well done for putting an old alternator to very interesting use. To keep the controller cooler, consider adding an aerodynamic ducting to the heatsink to channel air over it as you ride, perhaps adding a quiet Noctua or Arctic Cooling fan to help with the air flow 👍😉
Here's a suggestion to improve the handle and reduce wobbliness. You can use dampers made for e-scooters. It's supposed to reduce the shakiness of the handle at high speeds.
Innovate, not decimate! Congratulations to you all on a fantastic build. Innovation and engineering skills aplenty here, and what a great video too. Just fantastic!!
I agree a tricycle would be better and centralize the alternator between the rear wheels and put a gear housing around the axle and alternator to protect them. The way it is now, one small rock or pebble like debris in the gear and the shows over Also consider a gyroscope steering aid for the front to stabilize the steering.
all you need now is to not let the back wheel flex , spoked wheels have a flex tolerance and your motor is close ,but this a wonderful idea and looks fun 😍
I'm a 70 year old american and I love watching you guys!!!! You are so smart it baffles the mind. I used to race cars so I know what it takes to make projects like these-thanks for sharing and inspiring!
Me too sir ❤️
You got that right friend. They are smart!
@@raicheltillen8013 tf did you just say. You talk about my momma
দাম কতো, কি ভাবে পাওয়া যাবে।
are you serious??? that simple things baffles your mind?? 🤣🤣🤣
I've avoided getting an electric bike for years because nobody made one with the power and range I wanted. You just built the one I've been looking for.
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his numbers are trash, if you put 10,000 watts through the cable he uses to connect the motor it would light up like a candle.
What you want isnt going to happen. Even if you have the third world make a video lying about 10kw of power. Jesus, people. Don't be so fucking stupid.
@@kght222 no light needed in the evening then
@@falsedragon33 Well that's a bit rude. It must be stressful having your encyclopedic brain.
But it most certainly is going to happen. There are already electric motorcycles with excellent power and range. And Tesla is working on an electric semi truck. That's a heck of a lot harder than doubling the range of a bicycle. Be patient. It's coming.
Dude! That's a 60mph pedal bike home built. Great job. I'm impressed I love projects like this.
60-70 kmph * roughly 40-45 mph not bad still
@@carterwidmor7057 He said it had more left. 88 kph or something. 1.21 gigawatts
@@elvismorales7741where you are doing such a excellent job I want my bike to convert I am living in garden city Behria rawalpindi pak istan
@@zazarays you want to power a whole city with your 1.21 gigawatt?
@@carterwidmor7057 Not bad until you realize they claim it's 10,000W and a 1,500W can do similar speeds.
I am looking at building a three wheeled version of this electric powered bike for around the neighborhood cruising. I found the video quite inspiring and appreciate you posting it. Keep up the good work. It is inventors and innovators that keep out world turning!
You guys have some skills. Machining, welding, and even building your own batteries. My hat is off to you.
Your instability is due to the battery placement being mostly rearward. It should be redistributed to be closer to the center of gravity for greater stability
Yes. I have a pushbike with a cantilevered basket mounted on the rear rack. When this is full of groceries or whatever the front wheel becomes unstable. Dangerous - too much weight in the wrong place.
His stability issue is solved by NOT GOING THAT FAST.
The stability is directly related to survive-ability. There is no question about stopping.
It's gunna happen in a planned or unplanned way... but at 70km/h. 🤯
The motor is always gear engaged to wheel, unless it falls off. I seriously question the design integrity of that motor mount, the welds, and it's ability to resist torque forces, especially doing the death wobbles.
But, what a sight to behold... dragging the motor along by the cables... at even 40km/h let alone 70 😆
Yeah, mass distribution... having a lower CG would always help more so than forward aft location.
Moving the battery box so it isn't rubbing on the driven wheel... would be a good idea.
Not gonna lie i thought this was a fake video, but when i did my research i found out that alternators, in fact, can be used as motors, Great work, i'm gonna do this when i get one on my hands
whats your progress now
motors can be used as alternators and vice versa, but there is some problems related to it.
That's whe some guys decided to make a dedicated motor for wheels
I can only say what everybody else who's saying you guy's took it to the next level. Bless you Brothers from the Hawaiian Island.
great design/execution to pull it all together. Love your re-purposing of materials.
Would like to see this conversion put into a small car to have control over torquing of frame to allow higher speeds safely.
DIY King, Good day, This is the 2nd video on Alternator conversion of you Demo's & your sincere efforts, your try to find out is 100 % correct, trial & errors always in the game, keep it up, good luck.👍🏿
I love the fact that you went through the trouble of making your own battery pack. It’s a detail many would have not done.👍
Imagine a manufactured battery half the weight
You guys are real creative,the world need people like you.thinkers and innovators.much love from Tanzania
HAHA THE MOTOR ALMOST FRIED LMAO
Life should be as easy and simple like this guys, reusing everything that normally will end in our landfill is a great accomplish. Thank you.
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Regenerating without zero percent wast is better
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@Philly Unrau we need r cornered, better we have to rethink Our lifestyle, Atlease for next 10 years. Other wise our next Generation will suffering a lot. Please, take care
SPeed is what
I managed to get a much more usable result with my e-bike conversion. It will comfortably ride at 80 kmh+ without any wobbles. The only downside is the motor will overheat within a few minutes at that kind of power level. I mostly use it up to 60 kmh and it will beat cars at the lights easily.
Making it gear driven is absolutely wild. If I were you I'd space the alternator back and put on a toothed belt to drive it. This was an awesome build!
You guys rock!!! No truly as a fabricator mechanic I like your work very clean strong and precise with limited tools!! Super smart!!! Love to see more!!!
They do do a remarkable job with limited tools, but precise??? Let’s say reasonably accurate considering…They might have less tools soon (fingers/hands/eyes/head!) if they don’t learn to clamp what they drill, 😂 or at least shove a screwdriver in the base slot to stop the job spinning 🌪🩸😜🤟🚑🦯 🤣
I think the project represents thinking out of the box, maybe out of the entire workshop, and it looks like you guys have a lot of fun doing them. That is the best part of your videos. Thanks a bunch.
Love it, i also can see that the bike test was loved as well, great project and great potential for grander projects. But the key lesson here is the amount of upscaling reclaiming and repurposing that has gone into the project so far.
In theory I dunno I've always wondered this, couldn't you add a 2nd alternator to it that recharges the the battery that powers the first one.
It is the weight of the alternator on one side of the axle that makes you ride. It would be necessary to put an object of volume and equivalent weight on the other side so that it could roll normally. It will even be much more stable than before!
don't go that fast.
It looks like soo much fun working with you guys. I wish I could spend a day inventing/building with you. Thank you for sharing 😊
Nice to see something on the road and working...most of my ideas don't make it off the notebook page. Good to see your generation with a full understanding of what it takes to bring a project to fruition. Excellent.
Bravo! You guys will go far, just keep thinking and keep things open source!
Shout out from California. You guys are amazing. How you say everything correctly is making my eye twitch lol. Keep up the awesome work guys!
This is absolutley amazing, converting a bicyle to an electric bike witha a car alternator this is just mind blowing you are such a talented person, hope to see more improved version of this project, keep it up
The bike now owns dike
great job guys specially making a brush-less motor. you should start a business to convert bicycle into electric cycles. Well done boys keep up.
@@hustlaz2k brother no... is brushless motour
@@hustlaz2k its a permanent magnet alt
@@hustlaz2k 0:12, it's brushless
@@hustlaz2k Its converted to a brushless motor
@@hustlaz2k Well, at the beginning of the video itself, they stated that they converted that alternator into a brushless motor. They even provided a link to their video of that process.
Well done for your brilliant effort. May I suggest a couple of things.
I would look at mounting the alternator by the pedal area and using a belt drive or similar to the rear wheel therefore giving you a more centralised mass.
Following on from that, the battery pack would be much better slung under the main frame spar and would help with stability for your bike and reduce the speed wobbles experienced.
Your efforts are nothing short of inspiring and you guys should be very proud of yourselves, just centralize and lower your overall mass for a much better handling bike. Front forks would also be worth changing to damped forks instead of rigid.
Subbed, and sending you best wishes.
Bro, just do your own video.
Yea was thinking ok but use a belt?
Same thing went through my mind...and also mabe bigger size bicycle
@@tonybino01 Comments like this help people who might want to try it out themselves
Great Idea on transmitting power! Belt much easier!
That greenery and clean roads, where in Karachi were you guys testing? Near airport? Can't think of any other place in Karachi with so many trees and clean and paved roads..
You guys really know your stuff that bike is amazing with that set up and the range it has if great. Will definitely watch how you converted the Alternator as I came across this by chance.👍
Using an alternator for an eBike??? Wish I'd thought of that one. Excellent!
wow
Awesome 😎 i think the wobbling you mentioned is due to improper weight distribution. The alternator and the battery is on the rear wheel. Also, the rider sits closer to the rear than front. You should aim for a weight distribution of 50% for each wheel.
The problem is with the structural integrity of this bike. The power to body ratio does not match. This bike has a threshold speed limit above which it started to experience the wobble of death. Happens with the conventional motorbikes too.
@@TheEngrAsad Could be the centrifugal force on the spoked wheel at high speed pulling it out of shape. That's what causes speed wobbles in motorcycles
Hahahaha!!!! No the wobble from shaking the handle bar with his arms..😂😂😂😂😂😂
I bet the looped small wire you used to connect the cells in the battery get pretty hot under 30+ amps of continuous load, unless you have multiple sets of cells in parallel. Nice build!
It is in parallel he says it 7:58
i loved how you used alternator instead of buying expensive hub drives
At around 11 minutes. Says it all. The smile is an indication this thing kicks some arse.
Well done.
Indeed,thanks for appreciation.
Modify the sterring stem ,add caster. Adjust rake and trail angle. For stability
Or build a new frame.
Keep the position of battery more towards front wheel for more cog
Correct on the battery placement. That's why when I bought my conversion kit for my bike with the hub motor, I bought a battery that I could mount in the middle of the bike to offset the 25lbs of the motor in the rear.
Putting the heavy battery in the back would stress the frame to much when making sharper turns. When I make turns now it feels normal other than the extra weight on the bike but it's balanced well. I read that others noticed problems with to much weight in the rear.
That is excellent innovation, craftsmanship and great team work father and son...just wonderful to see..thanks guys...
But thats way too much power for a little bike 10000 watts is 15hp. Thats got to run around 90mph
You're hired! I hope you turn these bike conversions into a factory for them. You can obviously make the frame structure that you need to hold the weight. I just recently entered the ebike world. I have a very cheap, but apparently reliable step over ebike and am waiting on a more expensive step thru ebike. I've yet to ride either of them. I am 76 and will need the step thru to start riding. I Iive in a hilly city and I'm looking forward to driving the back roads of this town. 💚 go green!
I love watching the things you guys build. Very smart and great engineering. Keep up the great work.
Thank u anything u need am at your dispo
Ebike enthusiast and MechE here. I clicked this just to see a freaking terrible idea come to fruition.
Just...wow. Great stuff.
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Great job guys you guys are very talented I am an electrician and also an inventor and engineer I love your concept and what you have done I believe you have a very marketable item and I believe you should apply for a patent to what you have done to protect your work if you have not already done so!
Can they do a patent application with car parts and parts from other brands?
Not sure about patent laws, I thought you can build stuff similar but it has to be different from original product but use your own custom parts? But I'm not sure
Great video well presented .
It's nice to see the teachers who not only teach , but actually do. You guys make the world a better place in every way . Peace : )
thank you for not having some bassy music for the intro! i really thank you
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Man! I loved this show! You guys are nailing it! Keep at it. You guys are living the dream life.
I’m a white guy from the United States , I’ve always been impressed with you East indie guys as your creativity is very impressive. BTW- The relationship you have with your little buddy is really cool, keep up the good work guys. God bless.
You ended up with deep connection 😉
I've been itching to tackle a "e-bike" project using a old Razor pedal powered "Big Wheel" style trike to make what other videos call a Drift Trike. I've watched dozens of other videos but only this one of yours and Still you've given me more USEFUL ideas than the others. Awesome, Thank You! I've subscribed and I plan to check out your other videos while I finish gathering everything I need. I promise I'll document the progress as best I can but with a basically non-existent budget, it'll be a while before I have anything to show. 👍🏻
The build is interesting, but I don't see how this is a 10,000 W alternator (per the video title). For one, you have a 200A board controlling it (which is roughly 12V x 200A = 2,400W). And from what I see, that is a 150 or even 100A alternator, which is 1800 to 1200W. Even with modifications which will bring the power lower still, it is a nice build, but I think you are off by a factor of about 10x.
You’re right- it’s not 10kw. Probably an 80 to 120 amp alternator, which typically outputs 14 volts more or less. So optimistically, a 1500 watt.
Maybe he just put an extra zero on and meant 1000 watt? Or clickbait algorithm demanded exaggeration!
These guys can't count. Have you ever seen a 10k electric motor? It is huge.
it is a 200a WATERCOOLED controller, that he didn't watercool. this bike runs at an estimated 40-60 amps from what i can see, he is either trolling or just doesn't care if his numbers are correct. the bike is great, but the stupid numbers are infuriating because now if someone makes a 3000w ebike with a 4000w capable battery on it, they will look like a chump to people who don't know what they are looking at. THIS IS CANCER.
I think they used 120 Volts AC InStead of 12 Volt DC When Converting the Math , I Noticed this Right Away and Though Common , No Way!
@@905Jerrod I think they just used a big number for clicks. It's all about the clicks
You're a scientist for Tesla. I think you're smarter than my dad who has finite in calculus elementary. Even some people with Masters degree cannot even assemble this kind of stuff. You guys are awesome
Wow lads. That is absolutely fantastic. I would definitely like one on my bike.
Great video. Keep up the great work. Take care brother 👍👍👍👍👍🥇
Hi, 7 years ago I was working for a small company that was selling electric bicycles. We converted normal 26´´ mountain bicycle into a e-bike. 1000 W motor was able to ride it at constant 45km/h. Please get a bicycle with much bigger rims and than try it again.I think you will be able to go 100 km/h without any problem.
I think above 40km/h you're looking at "might as well get a motorbike" speeds.
100 km on a bicycle? That would scare the hell out of me! However I once drove my Mother's old 1964 Pontiac at 193 km/hr (120 miles per hour), so maybe I would be crazy enough to drive a bike at 100 km/hr.
100km/h... big problems.
Brilliant. This is what innovation looks like!! You guys are great!
Great project! And bonus points for that cockatiel screaming in the background! I've had many 'tiels throughout my life and that sound is not only unmistakable, but also makes me smile :D
Glad you noticed
I love what you guys have done here. Opening doors to new possibilities. Thanks so much.
when possibilities become probabilities, you are watching the right channels. this is a different type of moto-bicycle than I'm used to - most people build them like a motorcycle (Like the ones I ride)
Great idea and execution! If I had to critique one thing it would be to make sure when welding to get one consistent bead whenever possible for the most strength. What I and any other professional welder does is tack the ends of the work in place, remove slag, then run one consistent bead along the joint. I understand it's not always possible to get one consistent bead but it really does make a huge difference. Other than that small note I think you killed it. I truly am inspired. What a cool way to repurpose an alternator. I love that you make as much as you can yourself. Like using all those power cells in parallel. Really cool stuff!
the numbers are all wrong. it does what you can see it doing, but the numbers are all wrong.
the video claims 10000 watts, he is using two batteries that are capable of 1500 watts each. this makes people who do projects and give real numbers look bad. this is not good.
@@kght222 I honestly hadnt even thought about it/realized their numbers were inflated . I know enough about batteries from building amps and guitar pedals and being an e cigarette user to have realized it but for some reason I didnt. Good eye!
Edit: I'm not going to rewatch it but I thought in the video they were using many cells to make their packs then a bank. It's likely why I just assumed they were being honest. But with the seriously inflated battery/cell ratings perpetuated by the companys that sell Sony, Panasonic etc. cells for all we know they are going by what the seller claimed the batteries wattage/mah's were rather than testing the cells themselves which for most things cant simply be done with a MM accurately anyways. But the accurate tolerances for all the major cells are readily available online and if they are smart enough to make this video then we have to assume they likely did know the real tolerances.
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You should put a small water reservoir heatsink for a cpu on the speed controller and let the thermal differential cycle the small amount of fluid, and it would get rid of the air gap inside the controller and allow more heat transfer to the heatsink you added
Amazing, simply amazing. Your ingenuity gives me hope for humanity. Keep going!
As a safety measure, your car speedometer probably shows your speed higher than it actually is (in some places the speedometer is allowed to show a speed up to 10% higher than the actual speed, but is not allowed to show a slower speed).
Your phone GPS speed is probably more accurate.
Great piece of information i will look into that for further details. Thanks man.
The speedometer are quite accurate if calibrated properly, they are mechanical.
Porshe instruments are so accurate you can determine your speed from the rpm guage.
@@DIYKingSaM What make of alternator is this, and what mods have you changed inside?
I work with sspeedometers professionally.
The car Speedo is fast, the GPS speedo of your phone is accurate, provided you have been travelling at a steady speed in a straight line for 30 seconds or more.
Car Speedos are required by law to never read slow, so the manufacturers of cars typically make them read 7 to 10 percent fast, which gives a safety margin that allows for changes in brands of tyres and tyre wear.
For future tests, trust your GPS speedometer on the phone. Just give it 30 seconds at a steady speed to settle out any GPS averaging requirements. 🙂
@@michaelbrownlee9497 RPM gauges are more accurate than speedometers. Historically, manufacturers have designed speedometers to show about 5% higher than people actually are driving. This is so they think they are going faster than they actually are, since everyone drives above the posted speed limits.
This has changed with modern vehicles, since they are now tied in to GPS locators with navigation systems. Now they need to show true speeds.
Get some vice grip clamps for your drill press! I use them all day at work
Or some peg holes in the table, so they could put a hard stop behind the sprocket they are drilling.
You must always use lubricant when drilling through metal, steel, aluminum, iron and stainless, as well as drilling within the proper speed and feed ranges
right, that is basic knowledge that most machinist know.
@@jodyguilbeaux8225 Speed and feed and tool type are going to be more important than coolant. A nice drill can do hundreds of holes without coolant, but if the speeds and feeds are wrong it might not even get 1.
Dude what a cool concept. This is the most badass ideas I have ever seen. CRAZY COOL.
I am soooo happy I happened upon you and your videos!! You both are awesome to watch and to learn from, and I love the bits of humor tossed in for fun. Please keep posting your genius for us all to learn from. Now I want to make my own E-bike!
its switch on off to motor. charged coil.
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You guys are amazing thank you so much,,, people think this stuff is easy they are crazy you guys are modern path makers!!
Real insane product man, enjoyed watching it and imagined the possibilities, thanks a lot
this is the future of old cars and old people commute in remote areas for sure
A totally awesome build! Thank you for sharing.
engaging Li-Po battery pack without BMS to run a motor is dangerous dude. Li-Po is very flammable when its leaking
IMPORTANT WARNING ⚠️
@old cars trashed bms has overdischarge protection feature, so not a surprise if bms limits the full potential of the battery.
In this video, they used Li-Po instead of Li-Ion which can go puffy then explode if it's overdischarged.
Watching the look on the test riders face when he came back, hair all flying every which way was the best lol! Great job fellas, thank you for sharing this!
Good job of me one how much would it cost me to have one like your alternator go to amazing job I show everybody your video's
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I came across your work by chance and I am subscribing to watch your work.
I will be watching you from Turkey.
I would like to ask you questions from time to time.
Good work for now.
An excellent project. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Would love to see more technical specs in the future. Thank you.
I'm a 72 year old American, and I think it's a cool build.
41 and same
67 and same.
it was fuuqen dumb and dangerous
Pure genius! You probably already have the wheel shimmy problem worked out, but I think it has to do with the amount of trail in the steering. You may need to add a small amount of wheel trail, in order to deal with the added speed involved. All the best!
Getting weight away from top tube and headset as this is whats resonating. I learned this no-handing as a kid. My dads bike had a dad basket. Load it up, u better hang on lol
Great job guys i love your dedication to the subject!
You never give up! 🎉
Didn't know there was such a thing as an 800 amp alternator out there for a 12vdc system. Learn something new everyday.
LOL. Yeah, that's *maybe* an 80 amp alternator!
@@SparkyRF Alternators regularly run 120-160 amps in everyday bullshitty cars so if its 160 amps at 12 volts its almost two thousand watts. Even at 120 you're still almost producing 1500 watts of power. This could be a high amperage unit tho, if you spend like a few hundred dollars you can get a 300 amp alternator. These guys have 12 million views on one video im sure they can afford high amp alternators.
it is Hindi alternator, it tricks other mopeds and steal their energy right on the fly!
@@tejay9416 1500Watt is still only 2 hp...like a very small 25 cc moped.
@@tejay9416 now it's 13 million views, I agree a lot of BS said on this video
Hey Guys ! Nice work so far... I´m a Bike Mechanic and so i got some ideas for you to think about.... Try to mount the Alternator in front of your "Pedals" that would give you more stability and maybe adds a little more stiffness to the Bike Frame. Maybe u also can mount the Batteries to the top tube of the frame. In the End maybe you get a suspension fork fittet. Then try that Highspeed run again =)
Yeah , I am thinking about converting a gas pedal moped to electric pedal moped. I'm def sure it'll carry the weight of batteries ,front ,back or rear. Also , have no problem with the speed (wobbles). If so , minor. Hope this idea helps anyone. To all us diy's , good luck and many happy builds. Keep smiling. it will make your day that much easier. But wait. Why put it off til..... When u can do it today? Remember, Tomorrows not a promise. It's a gamble. Roll the dice boys yeeeeeeehaaaaawwww:)
@@franciscorodriguez7085 Good luck, brother
Would love to see a video comparing the conversions and also one involving more details of the tesla power wall
Both videos will be coming soon
@@DIYKingSaM I look forward to see the action fella DIY King.
This is the innovative drive that made America great a 75 ago, Now I see it in India as USA has lost it.. Your people are very smart and creative. I see a bright future for India. Thank You.
What made America great was literacy...Pakistan not India. Clearly stated on the view-counter bar. Yes! I am a pedant. You may have to look that up....but where?
Great build. Would be awesome to see what top speed could be achieved in case you used a racing bike frame.
I love this, not only fabricators but very technical as well. Great job guys!
This is certainly proof of concept. Have you given any thought to why the front end wobble increased with speed? Thank you for this video. You guys make science fun!
I had to subscribe after seeing the spinning gear on the drill press 😂
Keep in mind that there will always be trolls that have nothing nice to say. Questions and debates are awesome but some of these pizzants, are a bit much!
Don't ever get discouraged in sharing your wonderful projects and ideas. There are many that truly appreciate your efforts..
The push we needed, thanks a bunch man.
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Great job guys! Nice conversion. you guys made it all look cleanly done to with everything tied down and in it’s right place. I think I’m going to try this conversion myself soon.
Did you try it yet..?
@@rubendiaz4180 I’m still working on getting all my parts together when I have the time, but I will make it happen lol 😉 Thanks for asking.
Would like to see you guys try it on an uphill so we'll have some idea of the power it delivers. Nice project! Keep it up guys.
Nice work! But you'll also want to devise an enclosure and lubrication system for the gears, otherwise grit and road debris will quickly ruin them.
I think if you could get the weight of the battery in the frame area, you will get more weight on the front and stop the wobble. NICE DEATH MACHINE! Super Cool!
What got my attention was the huge machine vice you are using to hold down the motor with a propeller. What is the brand name and manufacture of the vice DIY King ???? Thanks VF
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I'm really surprised that at 5:19 when you held your bare finger 1 cm from a welding arc, you were actually burned! How is that possible!? LoL Love you guys!
These guys work right this
How hot do you think it takes to melt steel?
This is so awesome on so many levels!
Frankenbike! Love it. Super creative and looks dangerously fun. I think the weak point now would be the wheel/tire dexterity at those speeds. Not to mention the breaks!
Really cool stuff. But the test drive was hard to watch. Please wear some safety equipment next time so it won't be your last :)
Ten kilowatts? How did you measure that? The motors that put out that kind of power are usually liquid cooled to prevent the magnets exceeding the curie point.
Great work 👏 I love what you did here! This is the second time I see you do this same conversion. Someday I'm going to buy one of these bikes from you. 😊
Dude this is way better than a surron
That's super clever. Well done for putting an old alternator to very interesting use. To keep the controller cooler, consider adding an aerodynamic ducting to the heatsink to channel air over it as you ride, perhaps adding a quiet Noctua or Arctic Cooling fan to help with the air flow 👍😉
Also it wouldn't be hard to have build a mini radiator for the esc since it already has cooling ports.
So about 80 miles a charge?! That's crazy good! Awesome video
Here's a suggestion to improve the handle and reduce wobbliness.
You can use dampers made for e-scooters. It's supposed to reduce the shakiness of the handle at high speeds.
No BMS for the battery pack I think it's temporary ;) & I'm so curious on your Tesla powerwall, did you made a video on it ? BTW I'm from 🇮🇳
Since its temporary we didn't attached the BMS, and yes the powerwall project video is coming this weekend so stay tuned.
WHAT IS BMS
@@Punjabi_CNC_TRANING battery management system
@@Punjabi_CNC_TRANING BMS stands for Building management system, here it's for Battery.
Innovate, not decimate! Congratulations to you all on a fantastic build. Innovation and engineering skills aplenty here, and what a great video too. Just fantastic!!
For the next segment, Install an alternator on either side of the rear wheel, making it 20kw, and the weight on the rear will be more balanced.
I think the tires would melt and they would go back in time
I love it. I like to know how much it will cost me for the name of all the parts you used to build it
Very well explained. I like the enthusiasm put into this project. My question is, how long do you need to fully recharge the batteries?
This would have be a more stable ride on a tricycle. Amazing work guys I really admire your skills and capabilities
I agree a tricycle would be better and centralize the alternator between the rear wheels and put a gear housing around the axle and alternator to protect them.
The way it is now, one small rock or pebble like debris in the gear and the shows over
Also consider a gyroscope steering aid for the front to stabilize the steering.
Love you bro from india 🇮🇳
Thanks dear
all you need now is to not let the back wheel flex , spoked wheels have a flex tolerance and your motor is close ,but this a wonderful idea and looks fun 😍