So I'm an IT Professional and I must say I was very impressed with how this was delivered.. Ire basically lectured a crash course in networking and telecommunications right here.. love it ☺️
Believe me a lot of so-called professional or IT technicians are learning how to explain this whole thing from this video. They do the work but can't explain how it's done. Thank God for your level of education and patience in doing your research. You are the best in my opinion....respect all the way from the USA
Cable and wireless is an old throwback to the way that cables were sent under the British systems. In fact AT&T model their system from the cables and wireless systems in Jamaica 🇯🇲
I work in IT as a web developer. Very impressed by this video. This channel consistently shines for quality of research and its ability to transmit and explain it to where everyone can understand. I really think this skill is underrated and underappreciated so I wanted to show my appreciation. Great work, as always. I am in the US but lucky to have you in JA.
I'm in the technology field myself and am up on Starlink. Even ordered it last week for my father living in the hills of Clarendon, Jamaica. I was impressed with Irena's knowledge of the topic and her deft way of explaining it in simple terms. Well done Irina.
This is the only program about Jamaica that I really watch steadfastly. And every time when I watch, I'm increasingly impressed with your presentations. It is so extremely well put-together and superbly professional, that it often left me speechless. While I send your links all around to my friends and relatives - who live both in Jamaica and abroad. People with interests in Jamaica, who are not watching your videos, are losing out big time!
We pre-ordered ours almost 2 years ago when it was still in beta. They told us end of 2022 for our location. they finally shipped it,it's in customs right now..we are very excited. We are located in Portland JA. We are running a business that rely on internet . Flow seems to drop service every time it rains...so this is why we looked into star link . Let's see how it goes once we get it.
This is really great news because that is what is needed in Jamaica competition flow treats us like nothing because they know they are the hot shot in town so I hope their service will improved you don't have to stand up in line for 4 hours just to get some service
🇯🇲 Thanks again Irene for untangling the unknown & the complex bits of analog/digital $pace. Crossing my fingers & legs for the day third & fourth parties brave enough to venture into the energy secter to make JPS a footnote of our history.
Yes, I agree with this. I want to see green renewable energy in Jamaica, something that does not rely on fossil fuel to make electricity. Utility scale wind, solar, combined with battery storage. Only then energy prices will come down in Jamaica and that in itself will be helpful to the local economy. Energy independence.
@@islanddweller4263 🇯🇲 If you had stayed in school long enough you would've known the definition of run-on sentences. Just so we're on the same subject, they are sentences and not sentence!!
@@ianwint2292 I have a video on my channel mentioning this. It's in the 60 years of independence Part 2, Did Life Improve (I talk about solar and wind farms in Jamaica, but very short info on them)
Competition is good for the citizens. Thank you Irena, this was beautifully delivered. Now some of the monopoly will end, and some of these companies will begin to value their customers. Flow customer service, and the services they provide overall is the worst I've seen. Can't believe they stay in business with such poor service. Some people in the rural areas said to me "its better than nothing ". I can never understand this saying when you are paying monthly fees for a service that you can't use. My sister didn't have usable service for almost a year, she puts service from the same company flow, on to her cell phone, and still couldn't make a call through what's app. She had to spend more money to make direct calls. She was promised compensation, and she's still waiting for that months later. I do hope that they reduce their high monthly price and in addition, deliver good, consistent and reliable service....otherwise they will definitely lose customers
Boy am I glad to hear this, Flow has had the monopoly on the Internet for far to long, all you are saying is so true, I've lived here for 15y and in all that time not a lot has improved, At one stage we had no system for 6mths owing to the fact the cables had been stolen for the copper, I spent so much time complaining at the office, i had a season ticket (joke) so thank you so much 😊,
Irene you are a gem. Every time I watch your videos I learn at lot. Your videos should be on TVJ and the Jamaican Government Information Website. Stay safe and bless.
Wow I felt like I was in a class. Was vary attentive as to what you were saying. I now have a better understanding about internet and the way it really operates. Thank you again always informative.....Miami in house.
This is the second best news I've heard today. Absolutely wonderful news, and about time too...Thank you Irina for this great piece of news. Absolutely welcome news.
From I switched to Digicel I never look back at Flow. I live in Spanish Town and Digicel is in St. Catherine as well as Kingston. Starlink is something I have been following for awhile. Great video.
Well researched and well delivered. This has been a game changer for rural areas where it’s available, just be realistic and know that weather and congestion will be a factor in speeds to end users. Some service beats no service every day of the week so the net benefit for Jamaica will be great.
For me Digicel and Flow is out because no cables pass my house not even JPS. I have to use Solar and Satellite Internet. The internet I have now is so bad, mobile data is worst. I am interested in Starlink. The price is not bad for what it says it is offering. Thank you for the information.
I’d been considering Starlink and so this video is very helpful. So well presented. You’re videos are always so great. Thank you for doing what you do.
Thanks Irena, for bringing StarLink to my attention! Excellent video. As an IT Pro, I am anxiously awaiting your TH-cam review on its performance when your kit arrives.
Irina, stellar presentation as usual....I learnt a lot. Also, kudos to my fellow subscribers for providing additional info on this topic. I was particularly interested in donating a starlink to a communuty and will check it out.
Irina,I learn't so much about the internet and how it works in this video. I'm always telling people how well researched you are in your videos. I think that it's really great that Jamaica has been able to connect to Starlink an reap the benefits of the latest in communications technology.
Thanks a lot for a very informative and timely well researched production. I agree with the majority sentiment here. You're doing a great job and I look forward to the follow up.
Your video was great. It was filled with valuable information and it was presented in an excellent manner. I live in Spanish Town and I've been using Digicel since 2016. I have found them to be second to none in terms of their internet products. I used to be a C&W customer (before they bought FLOW) and I fled to FLOW because of shoddy service. Unfortunately, they followed me, and my business suffered as a result of this. I doubt if I will ever use Starlink but I am excited to have a new player in the market, especially for the benefits stiffer competition will provide. I'm also intrigued by their technology and what they may become in another 5 to 10 years. Thanks again for the info and all the best.
In my area, there was installation of fiber by the original Flow company along with expansions to the surrounding areas. This however changed when Cable and Wireless purchase Flow to use there name. The Fiber expansion by the competition stopped and we were only offered Cable and Wireless service and no exceptions.
The problem is that local companies had only the ownership of the cables, but were still getting the internet from C&W. When Lime (owned by C&W) joined with Flow and C&W retired the brand Lime and started using the brand Flow, the internet supply didn't change - there had never been any competition, since all internet was coming from C&W submarine cables anyway. The only real competitor on telecommunication market is Digicel. Everything else is either owned by C&W or small local companies buying from C&W or Digicel. By the way, C&W was bought by Liberty Global and now belongs to Liberty Latin America, so now it's owned by an even bigger company.
Irina, very informative video following on from the last one. I am happy to see Jamaica getting Starlink as an option. I think tho' that fibre is the way to go but, still, the gov't should incentivize this roll-out as much or more so than highways. Just my 2 cents. It could only benefit more people more people have access to reliable internet and the prices come down more. PS. One of the best "normal pe'ple" explanation of internet speed and latency I've heard.
I would love for you to do a video on the OUR (Utility regulations) and how they do nothing to help citizens that complain about poor utility services. I have had no internet with Flow for a year now as you've said, their customer service sit around a desk telling you that the internet is showing active on their system and if I've rebooted the modem... I am so fed up of them...
I'm a big fan of spacex and tesla, I always knew about star link but I didn't really look if it was available in Jamaica. This was awesome to watch thank you
Irina, thanks for the information. I now have second thought has it relates to the internet in Jamaica! Again thanks and keep sending us great content as you always do.
Hey! I've had flow at my house in Montego Bay for $5,800 Jamaican for about a year now. I am very interested in the starlink, but since I'm not there full-time I'm not sure how I can get it build correctly if you have to be there to pay for it. We can only get back three times a year for now. However that upfront fee for starlink is a little rich for my blood. Also I had one problem with the cable box that I believe got hit by lightning and their customer service was fantastic and it was replaced in one day. This video was fantastic I appreciate all you do
Payments for starlink are all done online, you can be anywhere and still have it running in Jamaica. I'm not sure if Starlink can be "paused", but this should be the option, so you'd only pay for it when using it.
hey Steve would you like to add IPTV channels to your internet here in Jamaica?fact that you're not here all the time ,you can take or use the service overseas with you,it comes on a device so you can basically take it with you anywhere you have internet access
Thanks Irie. Well informed video and the possibility of getting more affordable options in Jamaica. Would like to see a video about possible, safe online jobs you can do in Jamaica. All the best
Thanks so much for this information, I will be looking into this for our St.Elizabeth house in the mountains. That house never seems to get any service until you're at a certain spot 😀, 😀 and you can not move or else you will lose connection. 😀
Thank you greatly for the info. But with the set up and running costs of Starling it's going to be a long long time before it becomes mainstream. Those prices will need to come downhill. Fast.
Amazing presentation as I have come to expect Irene. Just got Flow but I am concerned about its reliability and have been looking for a viable alternative. This is perfect timing for me. Thanks again.! You are a National treasure😁 My next stop is Patreon. You earned it
I love ur videos. They come with so much facts and not assumptions. You make it clear to us, what to do if we are interested in something you say. You’re a little investigator😂😂😂
I am very impressed with this explanation, Love watching your videos. I use to be in IT in Jamaica ,very impress .lots of Hours went into this . Please appreciate it !!!!!
A very informative video! I just had a couple points and clarifications I wanted to make in order of how I heard them regarding Starlink. I want to just preface this by saying, you're right when you say it is currently better than whatever you can get outside of Kingston and the only options for remote areas IF you can afford it. Everything mentioned is based on my own research spanning from about a year ago until recently as like you I'm very much interested in the technology. I do not have a PHD in internet and networking etc so I am very open to corrections. 1. While there aren't any problems with consistency issues because of other users or out of date cables persay, eventually starlink will become saturated as this is a service offered globally and speeds will continue to slow. You can google "starlink speed" and you will see the reports of it already taking place. They currently as of Nov 2022 have 2300 satellites in orbit which provide roughly 46tb/s of data, so 20gb/s each satellite. For this example let's assume everyone is home using the internet and an average of 50mbps for each customer (the global average speed as of July 2022), that would mean 400 customers per satellite or under 1 million total serviceable customers as of right now. In order to service more they would have to launch more sats or continue to reduce speeds. Sidenote: SpaceX/Starlink's goal is to launch 10,000 total by (I believe it wasthe year) 2029. The other issue is that most of these satellites will spend the majority of their time over oceans when they're circling the earth, as 70% of our planet is water. Using USA as an example. America takes up almost 2% of surface area which means currently at any given time there will be 46 satellites over America able to service only 18400 customers assuming they're maintaining 50mbps. Jamaica has an even smaller footprint. I have watched a few reviews by now which showcases that while full outages are not common, what happens is the connection will drop for a few seconds (I've seen up to 15 seconds if I recall, the number fluctuates) regularly throughout the day sometimes every hour which can and will impact certain internet activities like calls, videochats, livestreaming, gaming etc. 2. The price. I strongly believe pricing is a barrier to entry for most Jamaicans, especially in rural areas. 60k plus tax is a steep setup cost upfront for the average Jamaican. Then to pay $8500 per month on internet bill alone is again I believe extremely high for a lot of the population. I understand your situation where you were paying I think 12k for your internet but vast majority are not paying that much or even need 100mbps connections. Starlink draws 50-75 watts. Thats more than the average tv at 58w. Imagine your new light bill at the end of the month. If you can afford it then I do believe if you're in a rural/remote area then this is your best option. Many will still continue to suffer with Flow simply because of the price.
RizlaRifle, great additional information. Regarding the Pricing, keep in mind that while "most" Jamaicans might not be able to afford the Monthly Cost, "many" can; including many MOVING BACK HOME and living in Rural Areas (which seems to be where most who move back to Jamaica decide to live). For example, this option would be "much better" for me when I travel (or move) back to Jamaica. I am from Saint Ann, and when I go back home, I have a difficult time with Internet Service in my Home Town (fortunately, I can use my work phone now; so having access to home internet is not a big deal when I go back home). Similarly for the one time (I hope) Setup Cost. Many of us who live outside of Jamaica, would be willing to help a Relative get setup (in the Country area), so that we have a more reliable internet service when we go back home.
About the quality of internet with Starlink - when I have it up and running, I'd be able to share more, however, so far the speeds of Starlink are increasing. There is a "drop" in speeds in certain areas when the new areas are introduced, but then it goes back to normal. These "drops" in speed will end once all planet is connected. People over the oceans also need Starlink, maybe even more than us. Starlink satellites move very fast and people get connected to different ones, so there are no dedicated satellites for certain number of users. For more info - simply check the full film of "How does Starlink Satellite Internet Work?" - by Branch Education. As for the costs - the point I was making was that the prices of Flow service will reduce, which means people who can't afford starlink will STILL benefit from reduced prices, that's why everyone will benefit from Starlink. If you want to know the real negative effects of Starlink - the night sky gets jammed with these satellites which is not good and causes issues for astronomers. Also there is a potential problem with eventual monopoly that Starlink might hold in the end if everybody switches to Starlink and other ISPs will go out of business. Very good point about electricity consumption for the dish. It uses up 50-75 watts on average. I was planning to get it connected to some solar electricity source for backup in case of outages, BUT maybe it's worth connecting to solar for the regular use as well.🤔
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIE Funny enough I went to check the video you mentioned and realized it was one of the videos I watched months ago when researching. It goes into a lot of detail. I'm not sure I understand your statement "These "drops" in speed will end once all planet is connected" and thus you some of mine. Each satellite is limited to sending 20gb/s of data and no more, so as the world gets connected more people will cut into that amount. To counter that, they would need to add more satellites but there is a limit to the amount of satellites they can add ( be it because of money or technology). So as more people get connected the speeds will always slow. Imagine it like a highway, when the road is clear/empty you can go very fast but as you know add a lot more cars and the average speed on that motorway will slow the more cars are using it. "Starlink satellites move very fast and people get connected to different ones, so there are no dedicated satellites for certain number of users". Again, I don't believe you were understanding my previous USA example. Starlink sats move in sync around the globe in a continuous grid pattern and spread out equally. So if they are always spread equally across the surface of the earth and USA takes up 2% of that surface, then only 2% of starlink satellites will be over USA at any given point in time and able to service customers, a sat over Africa for eg cannot send service to Florida. So technically yes there are no dedicated satellites for a certain number of users BUT the satellites cannot service an infinite number of users concurrently. My example was saying that if all users accessed the service in USA at once then based on the number of sats over USA, the data transfer limit of each satellite (20gb/s) and each user receiving 50mbps then Starlink can only service just under 20,000 customers in USA as of right now. That number can increase as more satellites go up, but it is not infinite. To possibly get a better understanding or visualization of what I am trying to explain look up "Starlink: BUSTED!! + ALL other Failed Musk promises!" by Thunderf00t on youtube and skip to 19 minute mark. And while he's not very keen on Musk overall, his explanation on the limiting factors of Starlink are based in math/science and easy to understand. Lastly, I understand your points about costs of flow, I just don't believe Starlink will receive enough customers to warrant a response from flow. Even in the rural areas it would cost Flow so much more to build infrastructure to service the few. Of course I could be wrong. Anyway, love your content Irena! Always look forward to your thorough history and details surrounding Jamaica! Waiting for the next one.
Irene continue the wonderful work you are doing with Jamaica. You are definitely an icon and have many respects from Jamaicans...many thanks Irene....big up ☝
@@kevtravels2481 , sounds like you weren't really using the "Internet"....you were using the Telecommunications Connection on your phone. Note that Irina emphasized that she was NOT talking about MOBILE Connections...but HOME Internet connections. When I travel back home, I use my Verizon Work Phone (which I'm allowed to use Globally....even for personal use). I had no issues with connecting using my Phone. But when I was in some locations in the "Country" (Rural Areas), I had a difficult time connecting via Internet Services there (especially in my Home Town up in the Hills in Saint Ann). In fact, during my last trip in March, I was "working" while on vacation. And in my Hotel (RIU in Ocho Rios / Maumee Bay), I had to resort to using the Hot Spot on my phone for Internet connection while I worked.
Hi Irina. I really love your channel. You have done so much to expose so much good enjoyable things to do in jamaica to the world. Do you plan to do any calob with any other utuberd in jamaica. I love the utuber they called thop in negrill
I never lived in Kingston and also all the other 13 parishes is not rural because I'm not in a rural area and I have good internet service. I will also be doing some research on this new system which I did heard about. Thanks again for the update.
So I'm an IT Professional and I must say I was very impressed with how this was delivered.. Ire basically lectured a crash course in networking and telecommunications right here.. love it ☺️
Hey I'm in NYC doing an IT degree any connections.
Luv her u si
I'm impressed myself
Totally agree.
Totally agree
Believe me a lot of so-called professional or IT technicians are learning how to explain this whole thing from this video. They do the work but can't explain how it's done. Thank God for your level of education and patience in doing your research. You are the best in my opinion....respect all the way from the USA
Yeah true it's hard plus so just don't talk
Cable and wireless is an old throwback to the way that cables were sent under the British systems. In fact AT&T model their system from the cables and wireless systems in Jamaica 🇯🇲
I work in IT as a web developer. Very impressed by this video. This channel consistently shines for quality of research and its ability to transmit and explain it to where everyone can understand. I really think this skill is underrated and underappreciated so I wanted to show my appreciation. Great work, as always. I am in the US but lucky to have you in JA.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate this feedback! 🙏😊
Hi Irena, as an electronics engineer i am very impressed with your knowledge on internet. Also, I actually learnt a few things from you. Thanks.
I'm in the technology field myself and am up on Starlink. Even ordered it last week for my father living in the hills of Clarendon, Jamaica. I was impressed with Irena's knowledge of the topic and her deft way of explaining it in simple terms. Well done Irina.
I'm an It student,I would like to connect.
@@blissfull7648 what's your linkedin profile?
Hey Lawrence would like to connect. I'm studying IT also.
@@blissfull7648 I'm not into I.T. I'm in a very specialized electronics field. Xrays.
This is the only program about Jamaica that I really watch steadfastly. And every time when I watch, I'm increasingly impressed with your presentations. It is so extremely well put-together and superbly professional, that it often left me speechless. While I send your links all around to my friends and relatives - who live both in Jamaica and abroad.
People with interests in Jamaica, who are not watching your videos, are losing out big time!
As a mechanical engineering student I am in a WOW. Great job. 👍
Yes my dear sister Irie,J.P.S. is next!!!!! Oh my gosh,we need this badddddd.
We pre-ordered ours almost 2 years ago when it was still in beta. They told us end of 2022 for our location. they finally shipped it,it's in customs right now..we are very excited. We are located in Portland JA. We are running a business that rely on internet . Flow seems to drop service every time it rains...so this is why we looked into star link . Let's see how it goes once we get it.
Let us know how it performs
@@krawsbreed1779 I will.
You should be good now
Hi, will there be customs duty on the equipment when it gets to Jamaica?
@@nayahr740 hi. No we didnt pay duties . DHL delivered it to us in Portland. Just to let you know.
One word to describe this presentation-impressive.
Thanks Irene for this good information. Not every thing is bad in Jamaica as some would want us living overseas to believe.
This is really great news because that is what is needed in Jamaica competition flow treats us like nothing because they know they are the hot shot in town so I hope their service will improved you don't have to stand up in line for 4 hours just to get some service
🇯🇲 Thanks again Irene for untangling the unknown & the complex bits of analog/digital $pace.
Crossing my fingers & legs for the day third & fourth parties brave enough to venture into the energy secter to make JPS a footnote of our history.
Yes, I agree with this. I want to see green renewable energy in Jamaica, something that does not rely on fossil fuel to make electricity. Utility scale wind, solar, combined with battery storage. Only then energy prices will come down in Jamaica and that in itself will be helpful to the local economy. Energy independence.
@@ianwint2292 exactly. Jamaica is blessed with year round sunshine and wind in many places. It’s a shame to not be investing in those things.
Now this is a run-on sentence on steroids.....kok
@@islanddweller4263 🇯🇲 If you had stayed in school long enough you would've known the definition of run-on sentences.
Just so we're on the same subject, they are sentences and not sentence!!
@@ianwint2292 I have a video on my channel mentioning this. It's in the 60 years of independence Part 2, Did Life Improve (I talk about solar and wind farms in Jamaica, but very short info on them)
Competition is good for the citizens. Thank you Irena, this was beautifully delivered. Now some of the monopoly will end, and some of these companies will begin to value their customers. Flow customer service, and the services they provide overall is the worst I've seen. Can't believe they stay in business with such poor service. Some people in the rural areas said to me "its better than nothing ". I can never understand this saying when you are paying monthly fees for a service that you can't use. My sister didn't have usable service for almost a year, she puts service from the same company flow, on to her cell phone, and still couldn't make a call through what's app. She had to spend more money to make direct calls. She was promised compensation, and she's still waiting for that months later. I do hope that they reduce their high monthly price and in addition, deliver good, consistent and reliable service....otherwise they will definitely lose customers
Gosh! Hearing this has brought Christmas to me in November. Can't wait to get hooked up to Starlink.
I've said this before...the only better than your on point information is your ability to create & edit videos, including graphics 👌🏻👍🏻🤜🏻💯
Boy am I glad to hear this, Flow has had the monopoly on the Internet for far to long, all you are saying is so true, I've lived here for 15y and in all that time not a lot has improved,
At one stage we had no system for 6mths owing to the fact the cables had been stolen for the copper, I spent so much time complaining at the office, i had a season ticket (joke) so thank you so much 😊,
Irene you are a gem. Every time I watch your videos I learn at lot. Your videos should be on TVJ and the Jamaican Government Information Website. Stay safe and bless.
Incredible information, and not just for Jamaica! Thank you, again, for your research and adept delivery!
Thank you so much for covering this, very exciting news. Once again you hit it out of the ballpark!
Big up Irie, as a telecommunications engineer I can't find a inconsistencies to your delivery 👏🏿👏🏿🇬🇧🇯🇲
Wow I felt like I was in a class. Was vary attentive as to what you were saying. I now have a better understanding about internet and the way it really operates. Thank you again always informative.....Miami in house.
We leave for Jamaica on Tuesday November 22nd! Super Excited!
This is the second best news I've heard today. Absolutely wonderful news, and about time too...Thank you Irina for this great piece of news. Absolutely welcome news.
What was the first?
It's not food,and it's got to be paid for
Can't wait for your starlink review,keep up the great work
Very good presentation 👏 I learned a lot, and I am very grateful for the information, very informative and helpful 👍
Looking forward to seeing your practical video..I did not know that Starlink was already here
From I switched to Digicel I never look back at Flow. I live in Spanish Town and Digicel is in St. Catherine as well as Kingston. Starlink is something I have been following for awhile. Great video.
i offer IPTV service with great channels,if you need the service we can hook you up once you have a compatitble device
very informative as usual, thank you 🙏🏾
Another epic presentation! You certainly left
A footprint in journalism in Jamaica.I hope Victory comes for the Ukraine soon.
very very well done! great simple explanations for anyone to understand. Thanks Irina!
Well researched and well delivered. This has been a game changer for rural areas where it’s available, just be realistic and know that weather and congestion will be a factor in speeds to end users. Some service beats no service every day of the week so the net benefit for Jamaica will be great.
For me Digicel and Flow is out because no cables pass my house not even JPS. I have to use Solar and Satellite Internet. The internet I have now is so bad, mobile data is worst. I am interested in Starlink. The price is not bad for what it says it is offering. Thank you for the information.
I’d been considering Starlink and so this video is very helpful. So well presented. You’re videos are always so great. Thank you for doing what you do.
Thanks Irena, for bringing StarLink to my attention! Excellent video. As an IT Pro, I am anxiously awaiting your TH-cam review on its performance when your kit arrives.
I recently covered a topic on this in my IT forum and u did this justice, well done 👍🏼
Irina, stellar presentation as usual....I learnt a lot. Also, kudos to my fellow subscribers for providing additional info on this topic. I was particularly interested in donating a starlink to a communuty and will check it out.
Wonderful presentation indeed. Very professional.
Well explained Irena, I work in the telecommunication industry and your information is correct.
I love your videos ..they are so informative and educational..i have learnt so much.. keep up the good job Irena!!
Irina,I learn't so much about the internet and how it works in this video. I'm always telling people how well researched
you are in your videos. I think that it's really great that Jamaica has been able to connect to Starlink an reap the benefits
of the latest in communications technology.
You are a Great Teacher Irena.. The Best ever ! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
Much Appreciated 🙏🏾.. 💐🪴
Thank you Irina. This is truly informative. Top class TH-cam channel
Thanks a lot for a very informative and timely well researched production. I agree with the majority sentiment here. You're doing a great job and I look forward to the follow up.
Your video was great. It was filled with valuable information and it was presented in an excellent manner. I live in Spanish Town and I've been using Digicel since 2016. I have found them to be second to none in terms of their internet products. I used to be a C&W customer (before they bought FLOW) and I fled to FLOW because of shoddy service. Unfortunately, they followed me, and my business suffered as a result of this. I doubt if I will ever use Starlink but I am excited to have a new player in the market, especially for the benefits stiffer competition will provide. I'm also intrigued by their technology and what they may become in another 5 to 10 years. Thanks again for the info and all the best.
Great message,,,respect 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
In my area, there was installation of fiber by the original Flow company along with expansions to the surrounding areas. This however changed when Cable and Wireless purchase Flow to use there name. The Fiber expansion by the competition stopped and we were only offered Cable and Wireless service and no exceptions.
The problem is that local companies had only the ownership of the cables, but were still getting the internet from C&W. When Lime (owned by C&W) joined with Flow and C&W retired the brand Lime and started using the brand Flow, the internet supply didn't change - there had never been any competition, since all internet was coming from C&W submarine cables anyway. The only real competitor on telecommunication market is Digicel. Everything else is either owned by C&W or small local companies buying from C&W or Digicel. By the way, C&W was bought by Liberty Global and now belongs to Liberty Latin America, so now it's owned by an even bigger company.
Right on time again Irina! Can’t wait to make that move and this will benefit all Jamaicans!
Irina, very informative video following on from the last one. I am happy to see Jamaica getting Starlink as an option. I think tho' that fibre is the way to go but, still, the gov't should incentivize this roll-out as much or more so than highways. Just my 2 cents. It could only benefit more people more people have access to reliable internet and the prices come down more.
PS. One of the best "normal pe'ple" explanation of internet speed and latency I've heard.
I would love for you to do a video on the OUR (Utility regulations) and how they do nothing to help citizens that complain about poor utility services. I have had no internet with Flow for a year now as you've said, their customer service sit around a desk telling you that the internet is showing active on their system and if I've rebooted the modem... I am so fed up of them...
Instant connection to this wonderful lady and lovely presentation
This is great I thought I was the only one having issues with Flow Internet
Big up Irina doings a good job love that I hope the prices is good. Good job
Wow! Education is really valuable. I have learnt so much from watching this. Thanks for sharing 👍
I'm a big fan of spacex and tesla, I always knew about star link but I didn't really look if it was available in Jamaica. This was awesome to watch thank you
Did you do a follow up video on starlink?
Nuff BIG ups to you, your programs are always very informative 👍 Thanks!
Irina, thanks for the information. I now have second thought has it relates to the internet in Jamaica! Again thanks and keep sending us great content as you always do.
Sorry for the misspelled word
Always positive news from you ! Thank you so much for keeping us informed ❤❤❤
Hey! I've had flow at my house in Montego Bay for $5,800 Jamaican for about a year now. I am very interested in the starlink, but since I'm not there full-time I'm not sure how I can get it build correctly if you have to be there to pay for it. We can only get back three times a year for now. However that upfront fee for starlink is a little rich for my blood. Also I had one problem with the cable box that I believe got hit by lightning and their customer service was fantastic and it was replaced in one day. This video was fantastic I appreciate all you do
Payments for starlink are all done online, you can be anywhere and still have it running in Jamaica. I'm not sure if Starlink can be "paused", but this should be the option, so you'd only pay for it when using it.
hey Steve would you like to add IPTV channels to your internet here in Jamaica?fact that you're not here all the time ,you can take or use the service overseas with you,it comes on a device so you can basically take it with you anywhere you have internet access
Proper researched quality information delivered in an easy to understand manner... 👌🏼
Thanks for this info.
Wow nice this is one of the thing I am waiting to move back to Jamaica wow amazing news
Excellent. I learnt so much
Thanks Irie. Well informed video and the possibility of getting more affordable options in Jamaica. Would like to see a video about possible, safe online jobs you can do in Jamaica. All the best
Thank u Irene, for always keeping us up to date on things!!
Thanks so much for this information, I will be looking into this for our St.Elizabeth house in the mountains. That house never seems to get any service until you're at a certain spot 😀, 😀 and you can not move or else you will lose connection. 😀
Great Content 👍 💯
Thank you for this content, objective as always. Looking forward to see the results of the test.
As an IT Consultant, having worked with telecoms and in encryption, I echo what others have said. Great video.
i love this lady she logically inclined
Thank you greatly for the info. But with the set up and running costs of Starling it's going to be a long long time before it becomes mainstream. Those prices will need to come downhill. Fast.
Maybe it doesn’t have to become mainstream, but just be available in the stream where none of the existing options are available or performs well.
I was looking for your follow up on Starlink but could not find it.
Amazing presentation as I have come to expect Irene. Just got Flow but I am concerned about its reliability and have been looking for a viable alternative. This is perfect timing for me. Thanks again.! You are a National treasure😁 My next stop is Patreon. You earned it
Thank you so much and thank you for the support! 😃
hey Steve would you like to add IPTV channels to your Flow service?
I like the fact that she explained all the technical terms correctly.
Really informative.. thank you.. I'm a jamaica and I didnt know this
I love ur videos. They come with so much facts and not assumptions. You make it clear to us, what to do if we are interested in something you say.
You’re a little investigator😂😂😂
Great video
Thank you so much Irina, I will definitely share this video, love you always. 💕
Protect this woman at all costs 🙌
I am very impressed with this explanation, Love watching your videos. I use to be in IT in Jamaica ,very impress .lots of Hours went into this . Please appreciate it !!!!!
The best news I heard since day !!! ❤
Another great video. Thanks for the information. By the way, my mother’s maiden name was Bruce. There were a lot of Bruce in St. Elizabeth.
but of course, St.Elizabeth was one of the most Scottish parishes in Jamaica :)
A very informative video! I just had a couple points and clarifications I wanted to make in order of how I heard them regarding Starlink. I want to just preface this by saying, you're right when you say it is currently better than whatever you can get outside of Kingston and the only options for remote areas IF you can afford it. Everything mentioned is based on my own research spanning from about a year ago until recently as like you I'm very much interested in the technology. I do not have a PHD in internet and networking etc so I am very open to corrections.
1. While there aren't any problems with consistency issues because of other users or out of date cables persay, eventually starlink will become saturated as this is a service offered globally and speeds will continue to slow. You can google "starlink speed" and you will see the reports of it already taking place. They currently as of Nov 2022 have 2300 satellites in orbit which provide roughly 46tb/s of data, so 20gb/s each satellite. For this example let's assume everyone is home using the internet and an average of 50mbps for each customer (the global average speed as of July 2022), that would mean 400 customers per satellite or under 1 million total serviceable customers as of right now. In order to service more they would have to launch more sats or continue to reduce speeds. Sidenote: SpaceX/Starlink's goal is to launch 10,000 total by (I believe it wasthe year) 2029.
The other issue is that most of these satellites will spend the majority of their time over oceans when they're circling the earth, as 70% of our planet is water. Using USA as an example. America takes up almost 2% of surface area which means currently at any given time there will be 46 satellites over America able to service only 18400 customers assuming they're maintaining 50mbps. Jamaica has an even smaller footprint.
I have watched a few reviews by now which showcases that while full outages are not common, what happens is the connection will drop for a few seconds (I've seen up to 15 seconds if I recall, the number fluctuates) regularly throughout the day sometimes every hour which can and will impact certain internet activities like calls, videochats, livestreaming, gaming etc.
2. The price. I strongly believe pricing is a barrier to entry for most Jamaicans, especially in rural areas. 60k plus tax is a steep setup cost upfront for the average Jamaican. Then to pay $8500 per month on internet bill alone is again I believe extremely high for a lot of the population. I understand your situation where you were paying I think 12k for your internet but vast majority are not paying that much or even need 100mbps connections.
Starlink draws 50-75 watts. Thats more than the average tv at 58w. Imagine your new light bill at the end of the month.
If you can afford it then I do believe if you're in a rural/remote area then this is your best option. Many will still continue to suffer with Flow simply because of the price.
...thank you. Earlier i was trying to say that majority citizens will find this unaffordable. Everyone jumped on.me . I deleted the whole convo.
A very masterful insight on the subject to compliment Irena's research. Thanks.
RizlaRifle, great additional information. Regarding the Pricing, keep in mind that while "most" Jamaicans might not be able to afford the Monthly Cost, "many" can; including many MOVING BACK HOME and living in Rural Areas (which seems to be where most who move back to Jamaica decide to live).
For example, this option would be "much better" for me when I travel (or move) back to Jamaica. I am from Saint Ann, and when I go back home, I have a difficult time with Internet Service in my Home Town (fortunately, I can use my work phone now; so having access to home internet is not a big deal when I go back home).
Similarly for the one time (I hope) Setup Cost. Many of us who live outside of Jamaica, would be willing to help a Relative get setup (in the Country area), so that we have a more reliable internet service when we go back home.
About the quality of internet with Starlink - when I have it up and running, I'd be able to share more, however, so far the speeds of Starlink are increasing. There is a "drop" in speeds in certain areas when the new areas are introduced, but then it goes back to normal. These "drops" in speed will end once all planet is connected. People over the oceans also need Starlink, maybe even more than us. Starlink satellites move very fast and people get connected to different ones, so there are no dedicated satellites for certain number of users. For more info - simply check the full film of "How does Starlink Satellite Internet Work?" - by Branch Education.
As for the costs - the point I was making was that the prices of Flow service will reduce, which means people who can't afford starlink will STILL benefit from reduced prices, that's why everyone will benefit from Starlink.
If you want to know the real negative effects of Starlink - the night sky gets jammed with these satellites which is not good and causes issues for astronomers. Also there is a potential problem with eventual monopoly that Starlink might hold in the end if everybody switches to Starlink and other ISPs will go out of business.
Very good point about electricity consumption for the dish. It uses up 50-75 watts on average. I was planning to get it connected to some solar electricity source for backup in case of outages, BUT maybe it's worth connecting to solar for the regular use as well.🤔
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIE Funny enough I went to check the video you mentioned and realized it was one of the videos I watched months ago when researching. It goes into a lot of detail.
I'm not sure I understand your statement "These "drops" in speed will end once all planet is connected" and thus you some of mine. Each satellite is limited to sending 20gb/s of data and no more, so as the world gets connected more people will cut into that amount. To counter that, they would need to add more satellites but there is a limit to the amount of satellites they can add ( be it because of money or technology). So as more people get connected the speeds will always slow. Imagine it like a highway, when the road is clear/empty you can go very fast but as you know add a lot more cars and the average speed on that motorway will slow the more cars are using it.
"Starlink satellites move very fast and people get connected to different ones, so there are no dedicated satellites for certain number of users". Again, I don't believe you were understanding my previous USA example. Starlink sats move in sync around the globe in a continuous grid pattern and spread out equally. So if they are always spread equally across the surface of the earth and USA takes up 2% of that surface, then only 2% of starlink satellites will be over USA at any given point in time and able to service customers, a sat over Africa for eg cannot send service to Florida. So technically yes there are no dedicated satellites for a certain number of users BUT the satellites cannot service an infinite number of users concurrently. My example was saying that if all users accessed the service in USA at once then based on the number of sats over USA, the data transfer limit of each satellite (20gb/s) and each user receiving 50mbps then Starlink can only service just under 20,000 customers in USA as of right now. That number can increase as more satellites go up, but it is not infinite.
To possibly get a better understanding or visualization of what I am trying to explain look up "Starlink: BUSTED!! + ALL other Failed Musk promises!" by Thunderf00t on youtube and skip to 19 minute mark. And while he's not very keen on Musk overall, his explanation on the limiting factors of Starlink are based in math/science and easy to understand.
Lastly, I understand your points about costs of flow, I just don't believe Starlink will receive enough customers to warrant a response from flow. Even in the rural areas it would cost Flow so much more to build infrastructure to service the few. Of course I could be wrong.
Anyway, love your content Irena! Always look forward to your thorough history and details surrounding Jamaica! Waiting for the next one.
Thanks for this detailed information!
Irene continue the wonderful work you are doing with Jamaica. You are definitely an icon and have many respects from Jamaicans...many thanks Irene....big up ☝
Thanks for this explanation!
I was in and around the island last week and the data signal was strong thru out the island ❤ I love it
Which network were you using?
@@mistro888-h2b I’m using Tmobile in the US and it was free in Jamaica
@@kevtravels2481 oh really nice 👍 thank you
@@kevtravels2481 me too when I travel I use my T-Mobile phone
@@kevtravels2481 , sounds like you weren't really using the "Internet"....you were using the Telecommunications Connection on your phone. Note that Irina emphasized that she was NOT talking about MOBILE Connections...but HOME Internet connections.
When I travel back home, I use my Verizon Work Phone (which I'm allowed to use Globally....even for personal use). I had no issues with connecting using my Phone. But when I was in some locations in the "Country" (Rural Areas), I had a difficult time connecting via Internet Services there (especially in my Home Town up in the Hills in Saint Ann).
In fact, during my last trip in March, I was "working" while on vacation. And in my Hotel (RIU in Ocho Rios / Maumee Bay), I had to resort to using the Hot Spot on my phone for Internet connection while I worked.
Yes spoke to my dad who lives out there and he told me about it !
Thanks again for providing a wealth of information re Jamaica.
Great presentation Iris.
More like this please. Nice video.🎉
Amazing work Irena 👍👍
📡 🛰📡 for the jamaican school children period .
Grandma Forever 🇯🇲
Hi Irina. I really love your channel. You have done so much to expose so much good enjoyable things to do in jamaica to the world. Do you plan to do any calob with any other utuberd in jamaica. I love the utuber they called thop in negrill
Thank you and glad you find the videos useful. I am hoping to interview Throp, yes. :)
Honestly I don't know how to thank you enough. This was really good the presentation had me pinned for whole time. I felt like I was in a class
Thanks for this information. Highly informative.
I never lived in Kingston and also all the other 13 parishes is not rural because I'm not in a rural area and I have good internet service. I will also be doing some research on this new system which I did heard about. Thanks again for the update.
Entire parishes may not be rural, but some parishes have more rural areas than others. She cited Portland … not the same as st James or st Andrew.
Good work irie
Another outstanding presentation, I’m very impressed with this news. Your knowledge and professional experience is the best Irena. ❤❤❤❤❤