Hey good to see you playing BA. I was in the CBT and here's my tips. 1) Don't fill 1 jet with all your missiles, it's better to have 2 planes with less missiles each than 1 with a lot of missiles 2) It's better to have low alt fighters from the start, they don't show up as early and usually gets first strike 3) Radar Baiting, you can place cheaper AA with radar (PIVADS, SHORAD for US, 6 Missile TOR, Derivestaya for RU) to pull SEAD missiles away from heavy hitters (Patriot, Buk and S300) 4) Hold fire on the snipers, they have good camo + good vision, holding fire on them makes them near invisible unless bumped to directly. 5) You can air lift in vehicles, yes you can carry a himars into the front or a LAV-AD, check your heli's cargo cap and your vehicles weight. 6) Helos with AA missiles are extremely powerful against enemy helos and planes and they will fire at both. 7) know the difference between HE and Cluster, HE is anti AA, Mortar Infantry, Building, Cluster is anti armor. 8) When deploying planes mid game, mark the smoke trails, they directly locate the AA 9) big explosions means you hit a supply depot 10) helo resupply and insertion is a great asset. 11) Infantry is great in ambushing, taking hold of an area and scouting 12) Check unit's FOV using left alt (default) 13) Check your units armaments, this is notable as this is how you learn about the VDV Metys having Kords and CAAT Dragons having M2 Brownings that allow them to kill helos quick. 14) You can clear an enemy building by pushing your infantry on it, this is the main role of the Marine Raiders and Strumovezky, they can clean up a 1v2 in a building easily. 15) You can deploy transports as standalone units. You can get upto 4 more LAV-AD like AA for for the Russians and a bunch of Bradleys for the US. I can post more but this is it for now.
RE: 1) Too add even *more* tips and some nuance. It's actually mega critical to have *enough* missiles in your jets to kill enemy helicopters. I tend to take 4x sidewinders, but 2x FOX-2 is mandatory minimum for all jets -- you don't actually need all FOX-3 missiles because you'll merge as you fire your FOX-3's at which point a FOX-2 and FOX-3 perform the exact same. I prefer to have one heavy one light loadout for ASF because heavy fighters get more ordinance per point, and you really, really want that ordinance if you manage to win the air fight -- airdrops and helodrops are incredibly tanky and you will run out of missiles very quickly trying to capitalize on the advantage that your air superiority gives you if you do not take time to bring enough missiles. Use your afterburners when you fight -- turn and burn! 2) Fighters always low. Ideally all your fighters are low unless you're bombing. For SEAD attacks you want to stay low until you believe you're within weapons release distance and then pop up before RTB. 3) I hear that you can intercept SEAD missiles. I have yet to pull this off, despite repeated attempts with various combinations of TOR, Tunguska, Sosna, S-300, and Buk. It seems best right now to leave radar disabled until you are ready to shoot. 4) Holding fire seems to automatically disable when getting fired at. I manually disable all the weapons just so this doesn't happen on accident. I would rather my sniper team die running away than attempting to shoot back. 13) I actually have issues using Metys and CAAT teams -- 3 volleys of missiles is, frankly, barely anything, and they're incredibly expensive to field. I am finding that ammunition amounts are actually at an incredible premium and you are constantly finding yourself in need of ammunition for anything more complex than an APFSDS shell.
It's definitely overwhelming as it's the first time seeing this game. But the team based nature of the game is a lot more appealing than if I had to solo. I like that you show a support angle. It would be interesting to see and compare it with frontline gameplay.
Hey Beagle! This is the first video of yours I've ever seen and my super honest opinion - great video. As off the cuff as your narration may have been, it was still very focused on only a few key gameplay loops, so it's very easy to follow. Discussing the shortcut commands and how to use them was done in such a way that it's easy to remember and execute. Keep up the great work
Keep up the content Beags! Got introduced to this genre of modern milsim-RTS style genre of games through your vids, really excited for the next open beta/game release. I like having your content as the not how-to-play dummy 101 guide like other TH-camrs and is instead the cool stategic tactical planning decision gameplay content you show. Cheers! 🥂
Hell yeah, I wasn't expecting to see you covering this game, this was great. I've actually been having the opposite experiences with a lot of stuff in game, I'm surprised to see none of your teammates brought in Patriots because usually I see like 10 of them. And I'm surprised to see you put so much emphasis on the F-35, I don't bring them in most of my decks and rarely see them used, you were definitely getting a lot of use out of them here though, I'll have to play with them some more. The unit I usually bring in to kill tanks and micro heavily is the Viper, but with planes I've been having a lot of success with the Hornet D doing low level bombing runs with a mix of Snakeyes and Rockeyes. If the opponent stacks all their units in a zone, that many bombs can wipe the whole area. If you bring out a Prowler first and then have the Hornet come in low on afterburner and aim your bombing run parallel to the front, you can usually avoid most enemy radar AA and get out alive. One of your opponents did something similar with the Su-34 in this match, I think.
I really value the F-35 because it's so survivable due to its stealth and it requires very little micro or attention to get almost instant results after calling it in. I like playing frontline too so I hope I get some pub matches where there's too many support units, then I can do some more Marine attacks!
Dude I love the content you always make. Thank you for showing me ROSIGMA last year, and I'm so happy you're covering the new World in Conflict successor!
Finally got around to finishing this video (for personal reasons). I think it's a fun overview of the principles of map control and unit matchup, and I enjoyed it a lot!
Appreciate this video this game is a lot of fun but it's been overwhelming trying to learn everything. Didn't know you could shift+b to queue unload and rtb this was driving me crazy having to try and do that manually all the time!
Actually a good educational video. I've enough experience in Wargame to know the stuff you talk about. But this will be VERY helpful to new players. If they actually learn from it. Good job. Best video for new players i've seen yet, many people in BA still don't use the basic tricks you talk about. Didn't show much of a micro with tanks & infantry such as using building with vehicles as cover, shooting & driving back or smoking out, and microing infantry out from building to loose LoS, not keeping your units on top of supply (because it explodes) and so on. Then again, this is a different type of game from your role stand-point.
Yeah I'd like to show a frontline focused style where it's all about that kind of thing, though tanks is where I've played least so far. Thanks for the praise!
unironically jsut spamming forposts at the front constantly is surprisingly effective for a 50 point scout that comes back super fast and eats all the enemy radar missiles
Had to check I didn't have winamp going when I heard a track from Ground Control. Wish Massive Entertainment weren't relegated to the Ubisoft mines, and that we could have some quality small-scale RTT games that aren't from the 2000s. This looks like the best of both worlds between WiC and Wargame - definitely not for me cause like you said, this kinda game can be overwhelming, but certainly fun to watch
Great stuff beagle, I've been curious about air for a while usually I send out one or two jets as the US and just HARM strike whenever mid game comes around. I am glad more people are covering this game. The best part of this game is unit variety and play style whenever both teams aren't missile spamming. I have done a heavy recon game where I sniff out the Patriot systems while I just park my holding line troops maybe a bit in front of the natural point. Can we get a proper air assault USA game that would be badass to make the air drops work into the late game.
Hard to do on a small map but it is very key to fly helos at low altitude. I almost always helo flank inf into their back lines and when they spend armor and stuff to kill it out come then armed helos to sweep up. Without careful micro it won't work though.
My biggest problem with the game is getting my camera to move around right. I can’t get it to rotate but it does rotate at random times enough to put me at an off angle.
Capping VPs currently doesn't mean anything unless you can hold them when the game is finished. So I'd say the goal there is race some cost-effective infantry into important terrain instead to gain an early advantage, which is totally something you can try and do.
So... if I was really good at World in Conflict (and only okay at wargame) would i just be really comfy? cause this looks like WiC but modern with some wargame twists
I'd say it's more like Wargame with WIC inspiration but I'm also an old WiC player who mained infantry and I love this game the more I get good at it. Once you get over the skill floor of being overwhelmed there's tons of good micro stuff to do in this game and get real tactical, and the abilities like sprint will make you feel at home from WiC.
4km should be the range. You might be having Line of Sight issues? It should show a red line next to the white one if you have an obstruction, and if you're trying to lase units behind buildings or in forests you'll have a lot of trouble 'til directly on top.
Has anyone figured out how to use drones yet? If've only used them flying high yet and at least so far I haven't been able to use them for anything but wasting points yet.
They're free kills to AA anywhere near the frontline but I think they can be useful for doing recon of your backline. It's useful to have something cheap and airborne to patrol your trees/buildings in your backfield and sniff out sneaky recon and infantry who are skulking around. I use Venoms on the US side for the same purpose.
I haven't played with them much because I don't play RU, however a good way to guesstimate distance is hold ALT to bring up the LoS tool, from center to one edge of the circular indicator that comes up is about 1600m. Also you can select a unit and hit G and mouse over ground or just mouse over a target at all and you'll get a distance between your unit and the target spot in the UI.
Would smoke mortars be good value for a "backline" focus or do you think that would be better served for a frontline focus to decide where they need the smoke? Seems like it would really help getting troops into position or blinding certain angles of an enemy forcing them into either closer range or a better killzone. Probably would be something the player would have to build a habit/muscle memory for. =P
I think both with front and back its worth bringing in LAV-M mortar carriers but as you say, I kind of agree that a frontline player will likely be able to smoke where they want it quicker without having to co-ordinate it with somebody else. It's a bit easier to just do normal artillery as a backline player because you see things and you kill them at its most basic, so co-ordination isn't quite as necessary as if you're preparing to assault under cover of a line of smoke
@@Beaglerush Yeah, I just have the luxury of sitting back and watching people play or opponents play who could benefit from using X, or in this example smoke. So, I try to harness that and think, what situations would smoke work? In your game it was more like, why smoke to blind a target when I can F-35 it? xD
Yeah my infantry assault faced little resistance so it wasn't necessary - if they'd had more troops and ATGMs waiting to stop me I might've needed smoke to get in there without dying
@@Beaglerush Yeah, I've seen some pushed get completely WIPED before since there was an absence of recon driving into a killzone. In fact, we see that happen a few times in your video, one I recall had the tanks push first and get taken out then the infantry moved in after. They didn't time their push well enough.
Is there some kind of LOS visualization in place like in Steel Division? I love wargame red dragon but precise unit positioning is such a pain in that game because you're never sure if a unit can see where you want it to see unless you zoom in real close
you gotta use control groups to help with your macro. if you select a unit (or more) hold control then 1,2,3, etc... if you then press the number you chose without holding control it selects the units you selected initially. usefull for you patriots for example where you got SEADed. just press your number then z to turn of radar then boom your good.
One thing that i like from this demo, you'll get unlimited reinforcement and supplies (World in conflict vibes) but reinforcement point is either too slow or each of the unit point is just to expensive
struggle since beta is here with a friend of mine to get bombs out of planes :D how to see what kind of drop they need ? can u drop all with P ? or only laserguided....all this stuff - very nice to look ur video - helped alot...hope we get more like this :)
Precision munitions like laserguided bombs are dropped with P, but dumb bombs are dropped by doing a bombing run command, you select bombing run and drag it out from start to end
@Beaglerush Ah that's a shame, it's always nice to see both sides, not to mention Russia here seems more in line how I like to play RTS games like this (saturate and overwhelm). Anyway, looking forward to more content, god knows we need it :D
imagine being trained for months as a PIVADS operator and you and your crew just get ordered to go sit somewhere way too far from the front for your vehicle's range and aren't told why.
young adult novel but its about "why do all us pivads crews get put at the rear" and "where do the other pivads crews keep disappearing to after air raids??"
Thanks for sharing the game vid and your knowledge/thoughts. It sure looks like fun, but have never played anything like this before - not sure I could keep up Old & slow... :) I'll look forward to more! One question, you mentioned ranges applicable to several systems - how are ranges/distances shown on the map?
1) Bring up the targeting UI by having a unit with weapons selected and then pressing G and hovering over the ground or mousing your cursor over an enemy target, and it'll show you the distance between the target point and the selected unit 2) Hold ALT to use the LoS tool - from the center of the LoS pie circle to one of its sides is roughly ~1600m, which I use to estimate distances sometimes The game pace can be hard to keep up with but the best way to make it easier is to just focus on one type of gameplay at a time like support, artillery, air strikes or recon, and then just do that one part really well!
Check the unit info panel in hangar or action panel in battle for the laser beam + laser burst icon, or just press N with a unit and see if a targeting crosshair comes up. You can see examples of it at 12:03 in the video - the Scout Snipers have the icon in their middle-left part of their action panel in the bottom right of the screen, and then when the F-35 comes in and I select it 20 seconds later, you can see the designator icon in the top left of their action panel.
Are JSOW bombs / MBDA Storm Shadow bugged or just sensibly nerfed to oblivion? They have a range of 115km and 560km respectively in real life but the F35Bs fire them from around 3.5km in Broken Arrow, if they had their real range you would be able to fire them from off the map xD... I'm loving the game, though. I hope the battlegroup specializations they add will allow for players in a team to have truly different roles in a match.
I liked this style and pace, any slower and I think it'd be harder to maintain interest. Maybe if you explain the things you do quickly like queueing and hotkeys/strategy at the start so you don't have to mention it in the match. If there's something important that deserves a pause though go for it. I second the others who'd like to see frontline gameplay and I'd love to see a really hard fought match
@Beaglerush awesome! Thanks for the response, I really enjoyed this format, very soothing and you made it feel less overwhelming. I'm VERY new to these types of war games, this one has just drawn me in and I'd like to learn more.
@@Magswap I hope I can help with more stuff like this! I was also overwhelmed by Broken Arrow at first but after discovering more efficient ways to play it I don't find it stressful at all anymore.
I'm surprised how tactical this game can be sometimes. I'm doing a lot of Shoot and scoot with ATACMS (With Sniper Teams and a lot of infantry to maintain the frontline) and a lot of bombing runs with Harriers despite how bad the fighter/bomber unit tier is. It's fun.
It's strategically demoralizing when you're in a match where you just get shelled and bombed to hell by your enemy controlling the tempo, but if you can keep enemy air and artillery at bay or dominate those spaces yourself, the room for tactical maneuvers with infantry and vehicles really opens up, sometimes in really minute micro ways like placing tanks and ATGM carriers in specific alleyways of LoS for ambushes. It gets very satisfying.
Do you think the F35 is good economically? It costs over 300 points to bring in and you only get about 70 points back when it RTBs, so it's costing you about 250 points for a 1 off hit. I'm not convinced it's worth it in a lot of cases.compared to buying a "permanent" unit. E.g. you used it to damage an Armata which can be repaired for for ~10-20 points of supply.
its the opposite, you pay like 70 or 80 max for the ordnance and get refunded the full cost of the airframe if it's undamaged. I think it's very worth it
Hmm, I checked again. At 19:06 you get a 70 pt refund, but for the strike at 12:50 you get a 200pt refund, and the one at 22 mins you get a full 280pt refund. So I guess if it's damaged you get a (much) smaller refund, but I'm not sure about the 200 vs 280 point refund, both looked like they were undamaged? And a full refund suggests you didn't get "charged" for the ordnance for that one? The plot thickens...
Yes, I did - you're right, at 19:06 the damaged F-35 brings in a waaay smaller refund, which is interesting! I had considered a damaged F-35 strike still about as successful as an unharmed one, but this shows that I need to be more careful and do the math more in risk vs. reward. You and others in the comments have raised the point of F-35 cost though I still think even with the risk of lower refund it's well worth it in a lot of cases, just being able to strike something so instantly and destructively is immensely powerful because no other permanent unit except maybe artillery could do the same so quickly and reliably. That said, knowing about the much lower refund for damaged F-35s will make me consider the risk reward a lot more on less powerful targets, and will probably make me try and suppress enemy AA much harder. It's also really good to know for fighting enemy units; a player who is spamming jets against me that I keep damaging is getting bled of some essential credits.
Hey look, buddy. I'm an F-35, that means I solve problems. I had no idea those jets were so versitile. I figured they were only good against lighter armor and helos, I had no idea you could inflict so many crits on heavy tanks
i went with more of a russian approach. very little air power of my own and a whole lot of air defense and artillery power lol. early game air taxi's seem like a must and helicoptors have far less stuff shooting at them which can make them more viable for me but everyone is obsessed with jet power already so i just stack my defenses and win the old fashioned way and think i still usually claim more enemy aircraft then stuff i lose to them. we'll see if i can keep this viable tho lol
Hey good to see you playing BA. I was in the CBT and here's my tips.
1) Don't fill 1 jet with all your missiles, it's better to have 2 planes with less missiles each than 1 with a lot of missiles
2) It's better to have low alt fighters from the start, they don't show up as early and usually gets first strike
3) Radar Baiting, you can place cheaper AA with radar (PIVADS, SHORAD for US, 6 Missile TOR, Derivestaya for RU) to pull SEAD missiles away from heavy hitters (Patriot, Buk and S300)
4) Hold fire on the snipers, they have good camo + good vision, holding fire on them makes them near invisible unless bumped to directly.
5) You can air lift in vehicles, yes you can carry a himars into the front or a LAV-AD, check your heli's cargo cap and your vehicles weight.
6) Helos with AA missiles are extremely powerful against enemy helos and planes and they will fire at both.
7) know the difference between HE and Cluster, HE is anti AA, Mortar Infantry, Building, Cluster is anti armor.
8) When deploying planes mid game, mark the smoke trails, they directly locate the AA
9) big explosions means you hit a supply depot
10) helo resupply and insertion is a great asset.
11) Infantry is great in ambushing, taking hold of an area and scouting
12) Check unit's FOV using left alt (default)
13) Check your units armaments, this is notable as this is how you learn about the VDV Metys having Kords and CAAT Dragons having M2 Brownings that allow them to kill helos quick.
14) You can clear an enemy building by pushing your infantry on it, this is the main role of the Marine Raiders and Strumovezky, they can clean up a 1v2 in a building easily.
15) You can deploy transports as standalone units. You can get upto 4 more LAV-AD like AA for for the Russians and a bunch of Bradleys for the US.
I can post more but this is it for now.
thank you so much, this helped especially air lifting stuff
Thanks, I still kinda suck so everything helps!
RE: 1) Too add even *more* tips and some nuance. It's actually mega critical to have *enough* missiles in your jets to kill enemy helicopters. I tend to take 4x sidewinders, but 2x FOX-2 is mandatory minimum for all jets -- you don't actually need all FOX-3 missiles because you'll merge as you fire your FOX-3's at which point a FOX-2 and FOX-3 perform the exact same. I prefer to have one heavy one light loadout for ASF because heavy fighters get more ordinance per point, and you really, really want that ordinance if you manage to win the air fight -- airdrops and helodrops are incredibly tanky and you will run out of missiles very quickly trying to capitalize on the advantage that your air superiority gives you if you do not take time to bring enough missiles. Use your afterburners when you fight -- turn and burn!
2) Fighters always low. Ideally all your fighters are low unless you're bombing. For SEAD attacks you want to stay low until you believe you're within weapons release distance and then pop up before RTB.
3) I hear that you can intercept SEAD missiles. I have yet to pull this off, despite repeated attempts with various combinations of TOR, Tunguska, Sosna, S-300, and Buk. It seems best right now to leave radar disabled until you are ready to shoot.
4) Holding fire seems to automatically disable when getting fired at. I manually disable all the weapons just so this doesn't happen on accident. I would rather my sniper team die running away than attempting to shoot back.
13) I actually have issues using Metys and CAAT teams -- 3 volleys of missiles is, frankly, barely anything, and they're incredibly expensive to field. I am finding that ammunition amounts are actually at an incredible premium and you are constantly finding yourself in need of ammunition for anything more complex than an APFSDS shell.
these ospreys with a sniper in them are the biggest waste of points you can have ^^ the Venom is all you need.
It's cool to be watching you again from your Arma days
It's definitely overwhelming as it's the first time seeing this game. But the team based nature of the game is a lot more appealing than if I had to solo. I like that you show a support angle. It would be interesting to see and compare it with frontline gameplay.
I'll try and do a frontline version of this too
Oh heck yeah Baegle on YT!
Hey Beagle! This is the first video of yours I've ever seen and my super honest opinion - great video. As off the cuff as your narration may have been, it was still very focused on only a few key gameplay loops, so it's very easy to follow. Discussing the shortcut commands and how to use them was done in such a way that it's easy to remember and execute. Keep up the great work
Definitely need more of this, this is fantastic.
Helpful and educational. Thank you
Thank you! This helped me so much. Also glad you are back on YT, been following you since your xcom days.
Keep up the content Beags! Got introduced to this genre of modern milsim-RTS style genre of games through your vids, really excited for the next open beta/game release. I like having your content as the not how-to-play dummy 101 guide like other TH-camrs and is instead the cool stategic tactical planning decision gameplay content you show. Cheers! 🥂
Hell yeah, I wasn't expecting to see you covering this game, this was great. I've actually been having the opposite experiences with a lot of stuff in game, I'm surprised to see none of your teammates brought in Patriots because usually I see like 10 of them. And I'm surprised to see you put so much emphasis on the F-35, I don't bring them in most of my decks and rarely see them used, you were definitely getting a lot of use out of them here though, I'll have to play with them some more.
The unit I usually bring in to kill tanks and micro heavily is the Viper, but with planes I've been having a lot of success with the Hornet D doing low level bombing runs with a mix of Snakeyes and Rockeyes. If the opponent stacks all their units in a zone, that many bombs can wipe the whole area. If you bring out a Prowler first and then have the Hornet come in low on afterburner and aim your bombing run parallel to the front, you can usually avoid most enemy radar AA and get out alive. One of your opponents did something similar with the Su-34 in this match, I think.
I really value the F-35 because it's so survivable due to its stealth and it requires very little micro or attention to get almost instant results after calling it in. I like playing frontline too so I hope I get some pub matches where there's too many support units, then I can do some more Marine attacks!
Dude I love the content you always make. Thank you for showing me ROSIGMA last year, and I'm so happy you're covering the new World in Conflict successor!
Obligatory "he's alive!"
Finally got around to finishing this video (for personal reasons). I think it's a fun overview of the principles of map control and unit matchup, and I enjoyed it a lot!
Amazing video brother! I think you did a great job and all the advice with the F35 is going to be a game changer!
Beags'! Good to see you’re back with some real military games! I remember the Whaleroy days. All the best mate!
Strong World In Conflict vibes
Yes! It's like a blend of inspiration from WiC + the gameplay of Wargame
Thanks bro! This is exactly what I needed. I played all day yesterday and had no idea how to use planes properly. Now I do!
Cool to see how good you are at this game, i tried it yesterday for the first time, really overwelming but really fun.
Some of the most solid gameplay i've seen of Broken Arrow that was awesome
Great vid for instilling confidence in new-friends!
Definitely a game with entertaining replays.
Really look forward to seeing more of this. Great video.
Useful and clear explanation, very good video!
Really liked it! Would love to see more!
Great video keep up the great work
Modern Wargame- Very cool and glad to see some new stuff from you!
23:08 That’s really cool because if this was WARNO or Wargame the ordnance would just clip right through that chopper 😂
Well done commentary, super helpful.
Appreciate this video this game is a lot of fun but it's been overwhelming trying to learn everything. Didn't know you could shift+b to queue unload and rtb this was driving me crazy having to try and do that manually all the time!
Actually a good educational video. I've enough experience in Wargame to know the stuff you talk about. But this will be VERY helpful to new players. If they actually learn from it. Good job. Best video for new players i've seen yet, many people in BA still don't use the basic tricks you talk about. Didn't show much of a micro with tanks & infantry such as using building with vehicles as cover, shooting & driving back or smoking out, and microing infantry out from building to loose LoS, not keeping your units on top of supply (because it explodes) and so on. Then again, this is a different type of game from your role stand-point.
Yeah I'd like to show a frontline focused style where it's all about that kind of thing, though tanks is where I've played least so far. Thanks for the praise!
Thanks for the info and its been very informative i didnt know that you can que up tasks for units
An hour of Beaglerush can sustain a family of four for a month.
I for one am here for this era of Beagle, where he gets really into a strategy game that makes his "brane du beeg thonk" and shares it on his channel.
wohoo, loved your mechabellum tutorial series.
I don't even play but it's super entertaining and I would love a 2 or even 3 hour video explaining everything
Bro tried to block the bad drawings but someone still got a cheeky swastika in there lol
ffs i didn't notice that one lol
This is excellent stuff mate. Subbed for more!
19:10 the fighting game term is "mental stack". Complicate and disrupt your enemy's thought processes while streamlining your own.
unironically jsut spamming forposts at the front constantly is surprisingly effective for a 50 point scout that comes back super fast and eats all the enemy radar missiles
Had to check I didn't have winamp going when I heard a track from Ground Control. Wish Massive Entertainment weren't relegated to the Ubisoft mines, and that we could have some quality small-scale RTT games that aren't from the 2000s. This looks like the best of both worlds between WiC and Wargame - definitely not for me cause like you said, this kinda game can be overwhelming, but certainly fun to watch
I was hoping at least one person would hear the Ground Control/Battlezone 2 playlist and recognise it
Great stuff beagle, I've been curious about air for a while usually I send out one or two jets as the US and just HARM strike whenever mid game comes around. I am glad more people are covering this game.
The best part of this game is unit variety and play style whenever both teams aren't missile spamming. I have done a heavy recon game where I sniff out the Patriot systems while I just park my holding line troops maybe a bit in front of the natural point. Can we get a proper air assault USA game that would be badass to make the air drops work into the late game.
Very informative, I really enjoyed that. I hope you do it again.
Hey how do you use griffin missiles in the airborne transport
I would like help on the top 10 ways to use the KC-130 Harvest Hawk to humiliate and dominate my opponents
don't - Bennay
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Scammy no. Think of the poor youtube people.
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What am I saying go Scammy go!
Hearing your explanations on the roles of Jets, Tanks and Artillery on the field shines a new light on the news we get from ukraine.
How come you used the osprey yo bring in the snipers at the start? Why not something with fewer sests, or why not full up the osprey more?
The osprey's way faster and I just wanted/could only afford the one unit of recon there at the start
Hard to do on a small map but it is very key to fly helos at low altitude. I almost always helo flank inf into their back lines and when they spend armor and stuff to kill it out come then armed helos to sweep up. Without careful micro it won't work though.
Harassing the enemy's backline is a great way to stress them out and break down their decisionmaking too.
My biggest problem with the game is getting my camera to move around right. I can’t get it to rotate but it does rotate at random times enough to put me at an off angle.
You should be able to rotate it with holding middle mouse button - might be why its happening at random times to you?
if jets opener is in high supply, would that make a demand for fast and super cheap land units to cap points as an opener?
Capping VPs currently doesn't mean anything unless you can hold them when the game is finished. So I'd say the goal there is race some cost-effective infantry into important terrain instead to gain an early advantage, which is totally something you can try and do.
I installed the demo a couple of days ago. Still trying to figure out the solo mission, lol.
Fantastic stuff! More videos would definetly be welcome!
Finally! There are no videos on this lol thanks brother!
Return of the king!!!!
This feels like it could be a good successor to the Close Combat games
People say this is a World in conflict spiritual successor, yet I feel this is more like Wargame lite.
Close Combat is a totally different beast.
if you have your snipers laser a target what button of the 2 bomb icons of the f35 do i use?
I think every single bomb on the F-35 right now in this beta was laser-guidable and precision, so always use P
now i know how to use this air strikes with guided missels finaly xD ty more details pls for air strikes and sup stuff !
How do you make the F35 drop all bombs at same time on single target?
Gotta just press P multiple times then left click multiple times but on the same spot
Great video and gameplay +sub
So... if I was really good at World in Conflict (and only okay at wargame) would i just be really comfy? cause this looks like WiC but modern with some wargame twists
I'd say it's more like Wargame with WIC inspiration but I'm also an old WiC player who mained infantry and I love this game the more I get good at it. Once you get over the skill floor of being overwhelmed there's tons of good micro stuff to do in this game and get real tactical, and the abilities like sprint will make you feel at home from WiC.
Wow, you are so good at getting those bombs off!
Any idea when the game actually comes out and isn’t just the beta test?
Im not sure how you can laze them from so far away. My F-35s don't laze until they come almost on top of sth. not sure what Im doing wrong
4km should be the range. You might be having Line of Sight issues? It should show a red line next to the white one if you have an obstruction, and if you're trying to lase units behind buildings or in forests you'll have a lot of trouble 'til directly on top.
whats your battlegroup deck?
Has anyone figured out how to use drones yet?
If've only used them flying high yet and at least so far I haven't been able to use them for anything but wasting points yet.
They're free kills to AA anywhere near the frontline but I think they can be useful for doing recon of your backline. It's useful to have something cheap and airborne to patrol your trees/buildings in your backfield and sniff out sneaky recon and infantry who are skulking around. I use Venoms on the US side for the same purpose.
@@Beaglerush and it works?
Do you have them flying high or low?
How do you guestimate the distance from the front?
I haven't played with them much because I don't play RU, however a good way to guesstimate distance is hold ALT to bring up the LoS tool, from center to one edge of the circular indicator that comes up is about 1600m. Also you can select a unit and hit G and mouse over ground or just mouse over a target at all and you'll get a distance between your unit and the target spot in the UI.
Would smoke mortars be good value for a "backline" focus or do you think that would be better served for a frontline focus to decide where they need the smoke? Seems like it would really help getting troops into position or blinding certain angles of an enemy forcing them into either closer range or a better killzone. Probably would be something the player would have to build a habit/muscle memory for. =P
I think both with front and back its worth bringing in LAV-M mortar carriers but as you say, I kind of agree that a frontline player will likely be able to smoke where they want it quicker without having to co-ordinate it with somebody else. It's a bit easier to just do normal artillery as a backline player because you see things and you kill them at its most basic, so co-ordination isn't quite as necessary as if you're preparing to assault under cover of a line of smoke
@@Beaglerush Yeah, I just have the luxury of sitting back and watching people play or opponents play who could benefit from using X, or in this example smoke.
So, I try to harness that and think, what situations would smoke work?
In your game it was more like, why smoke to blind a target when I can F-35 it? xD
Yeah my infantry assault faced little resistance so it wasn't necessary - if they'd had more troops and ATGMs waiting to stop me I might've needed smoke to get in there without dying
@@Beaglerush Yeah, I've seen some pushed get completely WIPED before since there was an absence of recon driving into a killzone. In fact, we see that happen a few times in your video, one I recall had the tanks push first and get taken out then the infantry moved in after.
They didn't time their push well enough.
Is there some kind of LOS visualization in place like in Steel Division? I love wargame red dragon but precise unit positioning is such a pain in that game because you're never sure if a unit can see where you want it to see unless you zoom in real close
You can hold ALT but it's not a great UI tool at the moment, they're working on the UI apparently
you gotta use control groups to help with your macro. if you select a unit (or more) hold control then 1,2,3, etc... if you then press the number you chose without holding control it selects the units you selected initially. usefull for you patriots for example where you got SEADed. just press your number then z to turn of radar then boom your good.
One thing that i like from this demo, you'll get unlimited reinforcement and supplies (World in conflict vibes) but reinforcement point is either too slow or each of the unit point is just to expensive
Beagle Tactical ASMR is so back.
struggle since beta is here with a friend of mine to get bombs out of planes :D
how to see what kind of drop they need ? can u drop all with P ? or only laserguided....all this stuff - very nice to look ur video - helped alot...hope we get more like this :)
Precision munitions like laserguided bombs are dropped with P, but dumb bombs are dropped by doing a bombing run command, you select bombing run and drag it out from start to end
Is this game overwhelming?
Hey, Beagle is back! I hope we'll actually see part two or something hahaha
Maybe next one could be frontline play with the other faction?
You probably won't see me play Russia because I prefer US a lot, but I definitely want to get a Frontline round up
@Beaglerush Ah that's a shame, it's always nice to see both sides, not to mention Russia here seems more in line how I like to play RTS games like this (saturate and overwhelm). Anyway, looking forward to more content, god knows we need it :D
imagine being trained for months as a PIVADS operator and you and your crew just get ordered to go sit somewhere way too far from the front for your vehicle's range and aren't told why.
young adult novel but its about "why do all us pivads crews get put at the rear" and "where do the other pivads crews keep disappearing to after air raids??"
Thanks for sharing the game vid and your knowledge/thoughts. It sure looks like fun, but have never played anything like this before - not sure I could keep up Old & slow... :) I'll look forward to more! One question, you mentioned ranges applicable to several systems - how are ranges/distances shown on the map?
1) Bring up the targeting UI by having a unit with weapons selected and then pressing G and hovering over the ground or mousing your cursor over an enemy target, and it'll show you the distance between the target point and the selected unit
2) Hold ALT to use the LoS tool - from the center of the LoS pie circle to one of its sides is roughly ~1600m, which I use to estimate distances sometimes
The game pace can be hard to keep up with but the best way to make it easier is to just focus on one type of gameplay at a time like support, artillery, air strikes or recon, and then just do that one part really well!
how can i tell which units are able to laser designate?
Check the unit info panel in hangar or action panel in battle for the laser beam + laser burst icon, or just press N with a unit and see if a targeting crosshair comes up. You can see examples of it at 12:03 in the video - the Scout Snipers have the icon in their middle-left part of their action panel in the bottom right of the screen, and then when the F-35 comes in and I select it 20 seconds later, you can see the designator icon in the top left of their action panel.
Are JSOW bombs / MBDA Storm Shadow bugged or just sensibly nerfed to oblivion? They have a range of 115km and 560km respectively in real life but the F35Bs fire them from around 3.5km in Broken Arrow, if they had their real range you would be able to fire them from off the map xD... I'm loving the game, though. I hope the battlegroup specializations they add will allow for players in a team to have truly different roles in a match.
It's intentional balancing, a lot of ranges are decreased a lot in this game for gameplay
@@Beaglerush Yeah it makes a lot of sense from a game design standpoint.
Shift + B is gonna save so many of my transports
I liked this style and pace, any slower and I think it'd be harder to maintain interest. Maybe if you explain the things you do quickly like queueing and hotkeys/strategy at the start so you don't have to mention it in the match. If there's something important that deserves a pause though go for it. I second the others who'd like to see frontline gameplay and I'd love to see a really hard fought match
Do you plan on coming back when this game releases?
Yes, I can't wait to play more. I've been counting the days.
@Beaglerush awesome! Thanks for the response, I really enjoyed this format, very soothing and you made it feel less overwhelming.
I'm VERY new to these types of war games, this one has just drawn me in and I'd like to learn more.
@@Magswap I hope I can help with more stuff like this! I was also overwhelmed by Broken Arrow at first but after discovering more efficient ways to play it I don't find it stressful at all anymore.
@Beaglerush looking forward to what you come up with and best of luck with the channel, subbed of course😊
U seem oike ond of ghe most freindly rts youtube i saw in a long time do u play with others?(is there a Chance u play with viewers?)
Beagle, has your accent changed? Great to see you upload :)
BA BEAGLE LETS GO
Damn so this game is like "moba-level" of team comp/match ups and and team fighting + communication
wow a beagle YT video!
This is good gameplay.
Love ya Beags
I love this game.
its surprising that 4 massive bombs don't obliterate a tank when dropped on it's roof, especially when irl drone dropped grenades can
Hilarious that the SU-57 is more multirole than the F-35 in this game
A RARE BEAGLERUSH VIDEO!!!
I'm surprised how tactical this game can be sometimes.
I'm doing a lot of Shoot and scoot with ATACMS (With Sniper Teams and a lot of infantry to maintain the frontline) and a lot of bombing runs with Harriers despite how bad the fighter/bomber unit tier is.
It's fun.
It's strategically demoralizing when you're in a match where you just get shelled and bombed to hell by your enemy controlling the tempo, but if you can keep enemy air and artillery at bay or dominate those spaces yourself, the room for tactical maneuvers with infantry and vehicles really opens up, sometimes in really minute micro ways like placing tanks and ATGM carriers in specific alleyways of LoS for ambushes. It gets very satisfying.
Do you think the F35 is good economically? It costs over 300 points to bring in and you only get about 70 points back when it RTBs, so it's costing you about 250 points for a 1 off hit. I'm not convinced it's worth it in a lot of cases.compared to buying a "permanent" unit. E.g. you used it to damage an Armata which can be repaired for for ~10-20 points of supply.
its the opposite, you pay like 70 or 80 max for the ordnance and get refunded the full cost of the airframe if it's undamaged. I think it's very worth it
@@Beaglerush that isn't what the game shows, watch your money when the jet returns.
Hmm, I checked again. At 19:06 you get a 70 pt refund, but for the strike at 12:50 you get a 200pt refund, and the one at 22 mins you get a full 280pt refund. So I guess if it's damaged you get a (much) smaller refund, but I'm not sure about the 200 vs 280 point refund, both looked like they were undamaged? And a full refund suggests you didn't get "charged" for the ordnance for that one? The plot thickens...
Hmm, the strike at 22:00, did you call it off without dropping weapons? That would explain it I think?
Yes, I did - you're right, at 19:06 the damaged F-35 brings in a waaay smaller refund, which is interesting! I had considered a damaged F-35 strike still about as successful as an unharmed one, but this shows that I need to be more careful and do the math more in risk vs. reward.
You and others in the comments have raised the point of F-35 cost though I still think even with the risk of lower refund it's well worth it in a lot of cases, just being able to strike something so instantly and destructively is immensely powerful because no other permanent unit except maybe artillery could do the same so quickly and reliably. That said, knowing about the much lower refund for damaged F-35s will make me consider the risk reward a lot more on less powerful targets, and will probably make me try and suppress enemy AA much harder.
It's also really good to know for fighting enemy units; a player who is spamming jets against me that I keep damaging is getting bled of some essential credits.
Love the Ace Combat soundtrack
Title should be "Broken Back" for more comedy
its been a while since ive watched a beag vid, nice fursona vtuber
I actually played against you with that build and it was pretty easy to counter. All about plasment of troops
I look forward to playing against you again! Not long now 'til the next beta ^^
@@Beaglerush , good luck!!
Hey look, buddy. I'm an F-35, that means I solve problems.
I had no idea those jets were so versitile. I figured they were only good against lighter armor and helos, I had no idea you could inflict so many crits on heavy tanks
more of this videos plz.
i went with more of a russian approach. very little air power of my own and a whole lot of air defense and artillery power lol. early game air taxi's seem like a must and helicoptors have far less stuff shooting at them which can make them more viable for me but everyone is obsessed with jet power already so i just stack my defenses and win the old fashioned way and think i still usually claim more enemy aircraft then stuff i lose to them. we'll see if i can keep this viable tho lol
Beaglerush... thats a name i havnt seen in a long long time.
great! I'm putting an f-35 in my army now.