Quinn walks you through a totally different way to pick up your big heavy motorcycle for police motors #alpinestars #bmwmotorrad #motorcyclesafety #motorcycleskills #seer #totalcontrol
Thanks for the info. I have way too many heavy bikes and I have always used the back against the bike method. This looks great and at 69 it will be extremely helpful , ride safe.
Hi, Quinn. Thanks for the well explained video. I've never liked the “back to the bike method”. I ride a BMW R 1250 GSA and ride it about 30% of the time off-road. For this reason, I complete a 2-day off-road safety training course every year at the BMW Enduro Park in Hechlingen, Germany. The method you have described here is also taught there. However, there is one difference: the handlebar end facing the person picking up the bike points forwards and not, as in your case, towards the motorcycle. This increases the leverage and makes it even easier to lift the motorcycle. Especially off-road on slippery surfaces. I also ride voluntarily in the motorcycle safety team of the ADAC (the German version of the AAA American Automobile Association). There we ride the R 1250 RT, the same model as you and your police colleagues. The RT is another 30 kilos heavier than the GS. Every year I hold a safety training course for my ADAC colleagues at the start of the season. I always demonstrate both lifting methods there. And everyone always prefers the “handlebar method”. The “back to the bike method” is always considered too heavy by everyone. Greetings from Vallendar, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany, northern hemisphere, third planet in the solar system.
@@bachwatz8112 hey buddy, thanks for the information and the comments, I really appreciate it. Not sure if you plan to make it out to the BMW Motorrad days in Germany this year, but I will be doing some demonstrations and would love to meet you in person if you make it out.
Quinn, I like this technique so much better than the back to the bike approach. I’ve used the other approach picking up a 600lb bike at an intersection after a tip over. Couldn’t see what was going on around me and wound up injuring my shoulder in the lift. Still have some pain from that. Your technique makes much more sense. Thanks for sharing it. Keith
Great video Quinn. I have demonstrated that for several students that have knee or back problems. It keeps them in a better and more stable position. The explanation on pushing into the front tire plane was excellent.
This was a technique I first saw on MCN's channel where BMW Rider Training's chief instructor did a demonstration. It was slightly different as he used both hands on just the one handlebar - the one on the downed side. The video was called "New Rider | How to: Pick up your bike" if anyone's interested. Of course, there is a third way as someone pointed out on that video - pretend you're hurt and let others do the lifting 😉🤣
@@Old_Geezer I would caution against all your energy, focused on one bar due to the potential for damaging it. I am creating force primarily on the inside bar however I’m also leaning in and pushing my weight into the tank and using my opposite arm on the bars as well.
@@PoliceMotorTraining I don't disagree, it was just an interesting comparison and your video reminded me of that one is all - they were also using a different bike for the demo - A GS iirc.
I was shown that same technique maybe 25 years ago, and have (not too frequently) used it myself. It's easy and natural to me. The pushing-backwards technique that seems to be taught universally nowadays feels weird and awkward to me.
Very interesting and almost stunning video! Thanks so much for the different technique than most of us were taught. How much did I like it? Enough that I subscribed! Thank you, again!
Seriously helpful, the thankfully few times I dropped my RT's has been on gravel, sometimes even on a slight incline you had to lift it up against, making it totally impossible to lift it with your back and needing help. Glad to find a great alternative. You deserve a medal, Sir :o)
Very good, thx. Have put myself in situations with loose gravel and sand and despite all the skills and strength required, couldn't get the traction to make the lift.
@@nedbagno5286 one could generate arguments for pros and cons related to anything and everything in life. This is simply another option in your bag of tricks, and depending on a myriad of situational considerations, it might be the best choice and it might be the worst choice. But that doesn’t stop people from remaining closed minded and vigorously defending whatever their process is. It’s the human way ha ha
Thanks for the video. At the 5:57 mark you point out that the front brake is now with your left hand. Are you braking with it like you did with your right hand?
@@realtorsonaharley yes, it’s actually even easier in my experience because HD tends not to fall over quite as far, + the HD has an overall lower center of gravity so the range of motion required to balance it upright is a little less, also contributing to ease of use. I’m a huge fan of multiple options for any given situation, so play around with it and see how you might like it, I will most likely always go with this format.
@@PoliceMotorTraining Being your bike was lying on it's right side, why didn't you put the kickstand down before you started lifting?. If you were on uneven ground, you might just throw it over on the other side. Another thing why Harleys are easier to stand up is, their kickstands lock into position, and wont fold up once they have pressure on them. You can actually push them around when they are resting on the kickstand.,,
@ I did have the kickstand out- that was the 1st thing I did. Then make sure I’m in 1st gear, the. Bike off, then bars locked to the right, finger in front brake, lift perpendicular to the front tire.👍
@@JamesChasingSunrises I think you’ll be fine- much of the force is your body pushing on the tank, and while most pressure is on the bars, it’s somewhat distributed between both. But I definitely hear you. I do like the fact that large motor schools use this without issue and some bikes do run risers. Again, your concern is not wrong👍
I find the big boxers much easier to lift than my F750GS. Bike lays flatter on the ground and is much more top heavy than the Boxers. I wish BMW would make smaller boxers, lol.
@@SLG1911 yep totally agree with you on the additional difficulties as the bikes fall over further. And I think this technique might be a great alternative because of that very reason. What an interesting idea, like a boxer 690 or something. Hmmm
@@PoliceMotorTraining I will try this technique with my bike once the ground here firms up a bit. Its a little sloppy right now. A 690 sounds great, but my dream bike would be basically my 750, with a boxer and full CC's, instead of restricting it to 750. The 1250RT looks amazing to me, but might have too much weather protection for my taste, lol. I'm a LEO but not a motor officer. If I wanted a 1250RT, would you recommend the RT, or the RT-P? The P appeals to me for sure, and I have no plans to carry a pillion. I know there are some subtle differences in the gearing and what not.
@@m.f.m.67 I hear you- but I would say the larger the bike and the bigger the motor, the less it tends to fall to an aggressive angle. It’s typically the smaller Motors and chassis that allow the bike to hit the ground all the way down, which means it’s generally lighter to pick up also.
I own a BMW 1250 GS, clearly not as big as this beast, but I use a different lift, mainly because boxers never fall all the way to the ground (starts about 2 minutes into this clip) th-cam.com/video/nM4y8J-5ZCA/w-d-xo.html cheers
Note to self - Don't skip leg and back day. Great vid as always Quinn.
Great information and fantastic motorcycle boots! Indie Ridge baby!!
@@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle hey buddy, I appreciate it. And let me throw a little mutual admiration your way, love what you do!
Thanks for the info. I have way too many heavy bikes and I have always used the back against the bike method. This looks great and at 69 it will be extremely helpful , ride safe.
Hi, Quinn.
Thanks for the well explained video.
I've never liked the “back to the bike method”. I ride a BMW R 1250 GSA and ride it about 30% of the time off-road. For this reason, I complete a 2-day off-road safety training course every year at the BMW Enduro Park in Hechlingen, Germany.
The method you have described here is also taught there.
However, there is one difference: the handlebar end facing the person picking up the bike points forwards and not, as in your case, towards the motorcycle. This increases the leverage and makes it even easier to lift the motorcycle. Especially off-road on slippery surfaces.
I also ride voluntarily in the motorcycle safety team of the ADAC (the German version of the AAA American Automobile Association). There we ride the R 1250 RT, the same model as you and your police colleagues. The RT is another 30 kilos heavier than the GS. Every year I hold a safety training course for my ADAC colleagues at the start of the season. I always demonstrate both lifting methods there. And everyone always prefers the “handlebar method”. The “back to the bike method” is always considered too heavy by everyone.
Greetings from Vallendar, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany, northern hemisphere, third planet in the solar system.
@@bachwatz8112 hey buddy, thanks for the information and the comments, I really appreciate it. Not sure if you plan to make it out to the BMW Motorrad days in Germany this year, but I will be doing some demonstrations and would love to meet you in person if you make it out.
Quinn, I like this technique so much better than the back to the bike approach. I’ve used the other approach picking up a 600lb bike at an intersection after a tip over. Couldn’t see what was going on around me and wound up injuring my shoulder in the lift. Still have some pain from that. Your technique makes much more sense. Thanks for sharing it. Keith
@@keithkeller6509 thanks Keith! Appreciate that👍
Great straight to the point, no nonsense vid.
Thanx much for posting and sharing this.
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@@byront243 much appreciated- trying to focus on the meat and not the sizzle👍
Great video Quinn. I have demonstrated that for several students that have knee or back problems. It keeps them in a better and more stable position. The explanation on pushing into the front tire plane was excellent.
@@ridelikeaproarkansas7511 that’s awesome to hear. I appreciate the feedback as well, thanks man.👍
This was a technique I first saw on MCN's channel where BMW Rider Training's chief instructor did a demonstration. It was slightly different as he used both hands on just the one handlebar - the one on the downed side. The video was called "New Rider | How to: Pick up your bike" if anyone's interested.
Of course, there is a third way as someone pointed out on that video - pretend you're hurt and let others do the lifting 😉🤣
@@Old_Geezer I would caution against all your energy, focused on one bar due to the potential for damaging it. I am creating force primarily on the inside bar however I’m also leaning in and pushing my weight into the tank and using my opposite arm on the bars as well.
@@PoliceMotorTraining I don't disagree, it was just an interesting comparison and your video reminded me of that one is all - they were also using a different bike for the demo - A GS iirc.
I was shown that same technique maybe 25 years ago, and have (not too frequently) used it myself. It's easy and natural to me. The pushing-backwards technique that seems to be taught universally nowadays feels weird and awkward to me.
Very interesting and almost stunning video! Thanks so much for the different technique than most of us were taught. How much did I like it? Enough that I subscribed! Thank you, again!
@@docimastic appreciate the support!
Seriously helpful, the thankfully few times I dropped my RT's has been on gravel, sometimes even on a slight incline you had to lift it up against, making it totally impossible to lift it with your back and needing help. Glad to find a great alternative. You deserve a medal, Sir :o)
Again, a great video. Thank you Quinn.
Excellent technique to know about! Thanks for sharing this!
Smart, great video. I have a Honda African Twin that is heavy and these techniques may come in handy some day.
Brilliant! Thanks!
Excellent explanation. Nice trick..I'm sure I'll use this one. Thanks heaps. Simon, Australia
Seriously helpful. Wish i knew this back when i was dropping during oractice more frequently haha
@@Tfol077 I hear you! Me too
Thank you Quinn!!
I enjoyed the phrase found.
Personally, I have on occasions dropped mine, gravity bucks.
Great info
Very good, thx. Have put myself in situations with loose gravel and sand and despite all the skills and strength required, couldn't get the traction to make the lift.
@@Sladep123 give this a try and let me k ow how it goes👍
@PoliceMotorTraining I will, thanks. I can tell it looks real good and aligns the lifting force with the best leverage angle.
Beautiful
You should tag DoodleOnaMotorcycle and see if she can do it! She trained like a beast to be able to pick up her bike using the old way.
This is how I usually pick up my GS.
I got “flamed” on a forum for suggesting this technique. 😂
@@nedbagno5286 one could generate arguments for pros and cons related to anything and everything in life. This is simply another option in your bag of tricks, and depending on a myriad of situational considerations, it might be the best choice and it might be the worst choice. But that doesn’t stop people from remaining closed minded and vigorously defending whatever their process is. It’s the human way ha ha
Thanks for the video. At the 5:57 mark you point out that the front brake is now with your left hand. Are you braking with it like you did with your right hand?
@@n228sk yes I’m still squeezing it like I did the other side👍
@ Thanks again, I will try this method.
Interesting 👍🏻 Have you tried that technique on a Harley?
@@realtorsonaharley yes, it’s actually even easier in my experience because HD tends not to fall over quite as far, + the HD has an overall lower center of gravity so the range of motion required to balance it upright is a little less, also contributing to ease of use. I’m a huge fan of multiple options for any given situation, so play around with it and see how you might like it, I will most likely always go with this format.
@@PoliceMotorTraining Being your bike was lying on it's right side, why didn't you put the kickstand down before you started lifting?. If you were on uneven ground, you might just throw it over on the other side. Another thing why Harleys are easier to stand up is, their kickstands lock into position, and wont
fold up once they have pressure on them. You can actually push them around when they are resting on the kickstand.,,
@ I did have the kickstand out- that was the 1st thing I did. Then make sure I’m in 1st gear, the. Bike off, then bars locked to the right, finger in front brake, lift perpendicular to the front tire.👍
I’m on an Ultra Limited and plan on experimenting with this technique. Thanks for the video.
I love this technique in theory. My only concern is if some of these aftermarket risers and bars can handle the weight.
@@JamesChasingSunrises I think you’ll be fine- much of the force is your body pushing on the tank, and while most pressure is on the bars, it’s somewhat distributed between both. But I definitely hear you. I do like the fact that large motor schools use this without issue and some bikes do run risers. Again, your concern is not wrong👍
@PoliceMotorTraining That's very encouraging and I appreciate your reply.
I find the big boxers much easier to lift than my F750GS. Bike lays flatter on the ground and is much more top heavy than the Boxers. I wish BMW would make smaller boxers, lol.
@@SLG1911 yep totally agree with you on the additional difficulties as the bikes fall over further. And I think this technique might be a great alternative because of that very reason. What an interesting idea, like a boxer 690 or something. Hmmm
@@PoliceMotorTraining I will try this technique with my bike once the ground here firms up a bit. Its a little sloppy right now. A 690 sounds great, but my dream bike would be basically my 750, with a boxer and full CC's, instead of restricting it to 750. The 1250RT looks amazing to me, but might have too much weather protection for my taste, lol. I'm a LEO but not a motor officer. If I wanted a 1250RT, would you recommend the RT, or the RT-P? The P appeals to me for sure, and I have no plans to carry a pillion. I know there are some subtle differences in the gearing and what not.
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Just once, I'd like to see them use a bike that actually falls over all the way instead of a BMW!
@@m.f.m.67 I hear you- but I would say the larger the bike and the bigger the motor, the less it tends to fall to an aggressive angle. It’s typically the smaller Motors and chassis that allow the bike to hit the ground all the way down, which means it’s generally lighter to pick up also.
I own a BMW 1250 GS, clearly not as big as this beast, but I use a different lift, mainly because boxers never fall all the way to the ground (starts about 2 minutes into this clip) th-cam.com/video/nM4y8J-5ZCA/w-d-xo.html cheers
@@goldenchild4835 yes this is definitely a great technique for lighter bikes, as you don’t risk bending the bars with only one point of contact. Nice👍
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The 8 word title of your clip says EVERYTHING we need to know and yet you're over 2 minutes of listening to yourself talk! JUST DO IT AND WE'LL WATCH!