The Controversial Rise of Ice Spice
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Bruh
I second this
Aaaaaaa
Hi
I was the first
"this ain't getting us out the hood, it's moving us across the street" is probably the wildest line I've seen this week,😭😭😂😂😂😂
Is my music fire 🔥🔥
@@tvmi_1107 No 🔥🔥
“Twerking the pain away” is crazyyyyyy 😂😂
I rock Bach, cannibal corpse, mostly EDM music, but I listen to Mob Deep when I like to feel gangsta sometimes. My point is music subjective, and I don't get why you go out of your way to trash talk an music artist.
@@Skoopyghost I honestly believe it's easier and better to just ignore what you don't like but not everyone thinks that way.
She went from a meme to someone people genuinely listen to unironically very fast
I've never really seen it play out like that before. usually when people "meme you" it's curtains
@@PatrickCc soulja boy tho
Been loving her since the mixtape, all the hate on new gals and new rap is played out
@@4rl0ng soulja boy stayed relevant culturally but musically he peaked in 2008. Never had much billboard success or sales success after his souljaboytellem dot com album
boys a liar pt2 hits man what can i say
"So we're just twerking to sad music now" LMAO
honestly I only know about this chick coz she was next to TS in the superbowl... not impressed with her music... also she honestly just looks meh, people saying she looking fine just because of the baby mana hips are wayyy too thirsty for their own good...
Seems like the music industry is 90% promotion and 10% skills of the performer.
true
Exactly
That’s everything in life, my friend. It’s all about the story you can sell.
Typically it's also a certain percentage of attractiveness for female artists, although not in this case. Unless you like albinos with extra chromosomes.
Case in point: JLo in the public eye right now due to her disastrous vanity project and all of her skeletons and stolen vocals being dragged out into the sunlight.
I like how ice spice acknowledges that she is where she is today because of social media. she doesnt pretend like shes a lyrical genius or anything. she chill like that. she shake her ass and makes catchy beats. and she knows thats why she famous. cant help but love people like that. she know she fine 😂 nothing wrong with that.
Yeah like she aint fake and shi like some others 😭
Shiii summed it up perfectly for me!! Got to love her
She makes beats?
@@yaboiavery5986the clap of her ass
@@yaboiavery5986 nah im pretty sure she dont
1:50 "twerking the pain away" 😂pat's way of casually describing things is hilarious sometimes
Nah frr😂
Made my day 😂😂😂😭
I cracked up 😂😂
He wasn’t lying 😂
I know right I don’t know if he’s sarcastic or not sometimes and it’s hilarious
I like how you didn't ignore the colorism conversation and the opinions black women and creators had. Colorism is more implicit than racism in a lot of ways, so lots of people try to deny it, especially when they don't want to admit that they're guilty of it too.
Aaaaaa I live in this shit while here in Russia but this year it started to become more and more and moreeeee
And humans views on how latinas skin color is and how middle eastern looks is as if they have a specific looks in my mind for them even google is becoming like human mind because it's a human owning and google changed after the 2000's .....2022 and 2023 is having a lot of colorism on woman who are pale olive skin and olive skin and black and light black skins ....even African Americans or Canadians have becoming more racist even in the video she said ice spice is a latina 😂😂😂 like B** what the who
She doesn't have to be a latina just because she's not black and not fairly overly white
Thank god my race isn't constantly competing for who is the whitest and which shade of whiteness is best. We have more productive things to do, like building peaceful, prosperous societies and then letting everyone else in the world destroy them.
@@meralEdwtDawlatlystop doing drugs
So do you get mad if people in Africa do it to other ethnic groups since you know they are the minority.
*WTF is an ice spice*
Sounds like something you would get from Starbucks
pat's dedication and consistent quality to these mini docs are UNMATCHED... real goat shit
🐐
Timing is everything with this dude..he waits then strikes...Love it tho' I'm strictly R&B
He’s also so objective with it as best he can, lack of biases, looking at both sides
Isn’t this how blue face was? He was a meme but than blew up? Pretty sure theirs more hip hop artist like these two
Pat's dedication to reminding me to stay hydrated is literally keeping me alive
"TWERKING THE PAIN AWAY" had me wheezing! 🤣🤣🤣
In the beginning of her music and in her videos that is exactly what you were witnessing. It’s funny but anyone from yo near who actually knows the reality of living in some areas of New York knows lol
I hate this world
Yeah im with you. I dont know why with men these days either your a onnly fans supersimp o r a red pill lunatic no in-between at all.
Here's a cookie 🍪
No matter how you feel about her, you gotta give props to her and her team for getting her to where she’s at right now.
you know I always respect a musicians come-up, its basically impossible these days lol
is this the new "she's pretty good at marketing" ?
@@PatrickCc I think my boy kenzo balla and tg flocka deserve more fame rn they drop like every 2 weeks with 300k views consistently for 3 years 😭
I would if her team didn’t tell her to be like every other mainstream female rapper
Lol why r we giving credit to people for appealing to the stupidest people among us..? 😂😂😂 God. So pathetic. This is what people get “props” for nowadays. I guess this is all the African American community can do nowadays. Can’t stand this black culture. Just stuck in idiocy now.
Man said “while twerking the pain away” lmao
I thought I was the only one that caught that lmfao
shut up foolss and listen to kyle richhh and dudeyloo and yes im the guy from the comments everywheree
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥
Lmfao omg
I honestly think the world would be a better place if 90 percent of mainstream rap music just didnt exist. The reason Ice Spice gets negative comments sometimes is a lot of people are TIRED of seeing women rap about boys and their bodies while twerking. Its so depressing to know that theres such talent out there but this is what is dominating the mainstream and effecting young peopls consciousness. What is really sad is to think about these rappers and think maybe they could be one of those artists who are capable of doing more but they keep pushing out garbage.
its ignorant on purpose. its not "effecting young peopls consciousness" in the way you think. sometimes its good to just feel yourself and have fun
Drill is normally gangs threatening other gangs but in a vague way. At the end of the day, mainstream either consists of violence, sexual themes or materialism. Very rarely is it about anything else. There is the genre of scam rap that was unique for a while where they talk about fraudulent activity. I guess to summarize it even better: illegal activity, sexual themes and materialism is what most music talks about.
Amen. That's why I stick with Queen Latifah, Monee Love, Lauryn Hill, etc -- when rap was intelligent & honest. 🙌
Seriously tho.
@@SI0AX It’s sad.
It's clear that some modern female rappers use sexual imagery, even bordering on soft pornography, to gain attention. This is a complex issue, with some arguing it's empowering, reclaiming sexuality in a public way. Others question its impact on younger audiences and whether it perpetuates objectification of women. Ultimately, the goal should be an industry that values talent above all, while artists, male or female, should feel free to express themselves without resorting to such tactics for notoriety.
YOU THOUGHT I WAS FEELING YOU? Yes Patrick. I was feeling you.
Purrrr 💅
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@@Barrys you not an eater
@@mordecaismopstick he didn't eat it for lunch
@Sophie Mary Factsss
she’s a rare example of a celebrity who genuinely feels like an authentic human. people are tired of the fake
You know that’s what they said about Cardi right? Ice is labeled an industry plant.
I ran into her at the iheart awards and some cute 13 year old girl asked for a photo and while getting the phone out, ice spice yelled at her manager, CAN SHE FUCKIN HURRY N GET IT DONE? FUCK. she’s incredibly rude and not authentic. She gets a whole security team of 7-10 security guards to shut down studios when she shows up. Have no respect for her
@@jesterchester8428 exactly. these people are using personas and likeability to appeal to the general public to hide the fact that their music is mediocre at best.
@@jesterchester8428 maybe but who cares? The only people who give a damn about whether an artist is an “industry plant” or not are obnoxious asses
@@sumdayzzz so what? Things has been this way in music since the 60’s where your image matters, it’s another dimension fans can relate to the artist with. The listeners like these performers, so they seem to be fulfilling a role in entertainment, so what’s the problem?
I get it that it sucks to see the landscape of music today, but if people are happy with it why fight it, just listen to your own music. Personally I’m not a fan at all of mainstream music from the tiktok era, it’s gross, but I recognize that times change and they always have and always will and I can choose to not participate
Pat, you are on the ball! I’ve been binging your content and I love that you talked about the coloristic aspect of her success and that you mentioned Eloho’s commentary 🥰
She is a product. The music industry is invested in her. They arrange the collabs with their artists. They arrange the appearances with famous celebs like Taylor Swift at the Superbowl. Non of it is organic it is arranged by the music label so that she can produce money for them. Once people deem that she is bigger and better than they are then they will "Worship" her with cash.
People just follow the trends. If 2 or 3 major players said something bad about her everyone would be. It’s scary to see how people online act. Glad she’s able to stay on the good side
right? half of peoples opinions of her are only bc it’s what everyone else is saying. scary how fast that can spread on the internet
Facts. I've been noticing this on livestreams of music and it is crazy. If people in the chat start forming an opinion of the song before the streamer, once the streamer hints that they like or don't like the song everyone's opinion will instantly flip to whatever the streamer is saying.
the glazing is insane
That's happening ryt here. I see only positive comments about her
Group thinkers
I personally think that one of the main reasons people like Ice Spice is because she s a refreshing personality. she can take a joke, she doesn't start drama or sneak diss which a lot of female rappers do, and she keeps to herself. She seems super nice to a lot of different kinds of people and she doesn't try too hard to be something shes not, ppl poke fun at her all the time and she always turns it into a joke/profits off it while a lot of other rappers would make it into something else. Her aesthetic is cute and different and she embraces it and doesn't try and hide who she is. Shes really real and doesn't do too much which is so refreshing when so many others quickly turn into preachers or weirdos so quick.
Ur dumb
Not ready allat but I prolly agree💯💯
Pretty roundabout way of saying she got a cosmic portion of ass
bro glazing
@@BigSmoke-xh5hi lol 💀
Till this day I’ve never fully heard a full song of hers and I’m genuinely kind of proud about it
I wish this was me tbh
She was chosen to be famous. It seems to me that she didn't work hard to be where she is now. she gets such blatant collaborations just like that, not because she's so talented or because she's something special, but because she's trendy right now
Seriously because why would people wanna collaborate with her already? It's really just to stay in the limelight.
I agree. She is in so many songs with other ppl that made me go who is this girl and why is she here? Also cuz her style didn't seem to fit the song I heard her in. Her voice is smooth but it doesn't seem like she has put in the work to get where she is, just is cute, pretty, light skinned and dances in a way that is popular so people watch her.
well if you were to list all the well detailed and hard to create videos on the internet which receive less views than...idk a video of cats just looking at a camera, you'll start to understand that we cant be picky abt what is famous and what is not lol
But to be “chosen” is special… everyone isn’t “chosen” no one can dictate what special and what isn’t… that’s a matter of opinion.
Yeah I get that. Her rap is trash. She has no passion in her voice at all. It sounds so lazy and like she’s so bored. Why has she blown up? The dumbing down of society. Society is getting weaker, with no demands for quality and excellence. She just looks different, and has monopolized the internet. No story here folks.
You're voice is so relaxing it's like Xanax
😂
To me her beauty and age definitely played a part and munch was just a total market boost for her it just fits her personality
Yeah Pat wasn't wrong about the lightskin thing either. Alot easier to blow up in any field if your lightskin. That's why when a darkskin artist actually gets big they are put in the legend status because it's so hard.
@@tuelzaltshe’s also Latina and is Dominican, the Bronx is 80% Latin
From Puerto Ricans, Caribbean’s, Dominicans and even Mexicans
Her Ambiguity and Lighskin for sure played a part as well as her Latina roots
@@tuelzalt not even close, is just the fact the she is cute. Her skin has nothing to do with it. If you have looks that’s it.
Yup, but LOOKS FADE A WAY… THERE WILL BE ALWAYS A YOUNGER NEXT. When it comes to women .So it’s comin - just not yet
@@akumaghilardi2992 you dnt understand marketing... you cna have a cute darksin and lightskin the light will appeal to more ppl. She will get love from Dark and Light... the Dark will get love from Dark. Its a reason on Mexican TV stations and stuff the host is always the lightest shade. More views and ratings. Its sad but its how the world has been for 1000s of years. Ppl just think less of ppl with darker skin tones
I can see the differences in culture man. Unless you’re high school age or young college, nobody is listening to ice spice 💀💀💀
the glazing is insaneee! shes a plant and wouldnt be famous if she wasnt twerking/not everything u see on interviews is true shes obv acting
or youre a whor, you'll listen to her, or like her thot behavior and body
Pretty much. I had no idea who she is and have no intentions of listening to her music. TH-cam recommended this video and the title seemed interesting, so here I am. Comment section is entertaining, too.
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
It’s hard not to like her. I saw so many people hating of her on Twitter, finally decided to listen to some of her music. It’s actually nice, not very lyrical but it’s honestly smooth to the ear. Her flow is unique and she honestly sounds great.
I've listened to some of her tracks and, to be honest, I have absolutely no idea where anyone could see any unique qualities in her music.
To me she's just an offbrand Nicki Minaj.
Smooth to who's ear? Deaf people?? She has the worst rap tone I have ever heard in my life and her lyrics make me want to kill myself. It's like the equivalent of watching paint dry.
@@mojoo611there is no similarity between ice’s flow or style n nicki’s lol
@@mojoo611 taste where??? no where
I never heard from ice-spicy before....is she important or so?🤔I´m from Europe, maybe because of that🙄
Her producer’s dad was Biggie’s touring DJ. If that’s not a plant I don’t know what is. That’s why her beats are so dope. Take away Riot and how would any of this have been?
The beats are absolute trash lol they sound like loop packs just dropped over each other.
Her body is a big reason whether you like it or not
She’s attractive and likeable.. literally what’s carrying most of these artist’s careers.. they either gotta be attractive or have some quirky personality to attract the type of people to make those “X artist being iconic for 10 minutes” videos
Yeah true
and her skin colour....she would not be this successful if she had dark skin sadly
and you wonder why we hate you guys so much
@@sumdayzzz true AF . Her skin tone is whiter than Taylor swift .
I don't care for Ice Spices music (I don't like drill) but I love the fact that she minds her business and doesn't bother anyone. She makes her music and lives her life
shut up foolss and listen to kyle richhh and dudeyloo and yes im the guy from the comments everywheree
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥
@@tvmi_1107 no
@@michaelg4981every rapper who stays popular gets overrated, get used to it.
@@tvmi_1107 where can people even listen to your music?
1:54 twerking the pain away is definetly a way to put it lol
This video was very interesting as I tripped on it my accident - and you have the most amazing voice, very impactful and engaging. Well done! Psyche aka Psyche Thompson UK 🌹
She has a very likeable personality. She’s one of those female rappers that doesn’t really do too much, she’s mad chill and I think that’s why people like her so much.
Doesn’t really do too much? Dude her image is based on shaking her butt and showing off her body
What the fuck does your personality have to do with your music? NOT A GOD DAMNED THING! She sucks at rapping, she has no talent. I don't care if she was the sweetest most down to earth human being on the planet, that isn't a fucking replacement for actual skill. She should be famous on OF, she shouldn't have a bunch of idiots listening to her music. Her personality has NOTHING to do with her music.
@@notalotawata blew up cause the song was catchy. She avoided being a one hit wonder because her music is good n she has a likeable personality
the glazing is insaneee! shes a plant
@@notalotawata people like dancing around the reason and that they just enjoy her sex appeal
Even if your music is mid you can still be popular I guess. Especially if your body and looks can carry you 😂
This is the only honest comment I have read.
Even mid is a bit of an overstatement
exactly if she was ugly nb would listen to her
the glazing is insaneee! shes a plant and wouldnt be famous if she wasnt twerking
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love your take man!🩷🩷🩷 you speak kindly of women and i really appreciate that🥺
RT
Image, likeness and ability to be marketable will always be outskilled is so true i felll like this is why i believe true musical success comes from independent artist or bands not saying they are not marketed but a lot of time people don't even know the name of the members whose music they listen
Even when you tell her story in a flattering light, she still sounds like an industry plant nobody really cares about.
her music is generic, people don’t like her because she’s an inspiring musician or writes good music. it’s just horny dudes and zoomers
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Exactly. I still haven't heard 1 song all the way through because she's mediocre. She doesn't stand out, stage presence sucks, over this hair color fighting against her complexion. Just mid. I can't believe this is what the industry has come too.
industry plant for real, everything about her screams plant
???
Without taking anything away from Ice Spice.. I genuinely believe that any and everything *_PINK PANTHERESS_* touches literally turns to gold so it really could’ve been anyone. Spice should be grateful for being carried by so many cosines without doing much to get them.
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's been long and known for artist and those online in general to clash eventually. she saw mid spice buzzing so had to tap her for a join collab knowing and seeking to merge their audience to form the most mid joint #girlboss anthem.
Most sane stan be like :
That verse was good though
"He say that I'm good enough, grabbin' my duh-duh-duh
Thinkin' 'bout shit that I shouldn't have (huh)
So I tell him there's one of me, he makin' fun of me (ha-ha)
His girl is a bum to me (grrah)
Like that boy is a cap, sayin' he home but I know where he at, like
Bet he blowin' her back
Thinkin' 'bout me 'cause he know that ass fat (damn)
And it been what it been (uh, huh)
Callin' his phone like, "Yo, send me your PIN"
Duckin' my shit, 'cause he know what I'm on (grrah)
But when he hit me I'm not gon' respond (grrah)
But I don't sleep enough without you
And I can't eat enough without you (huh)
If you don't speak, does that mean we're through? (Huh)
Don't like sneaky shit that you do (grrah)"
@@PauloElijahBAtian Woooow, reading this without the distraction of the beats is poetic AF. I literally felt the spiral, from being made to feel special to -> knowing that something's wrong and feeling gaslit to -> going through rage, insulting the other person in order to feel secure about herself -> being angry and cold, hoping it would hurt him the way she's been hurt -> finally realizing it's too late for her, she's already hooked on that special juice at the start and would do anything to get that high again
this is a good vid. never seen your channel before. just found it while thirst searching for Ice. But you do good work my dude
She was promoted in the streaming algorithm. So for apple music for example, didn't matter what artist you would look for in the search, in 2022 her name would show up. Gives her exposure and more likely chance people will select her to see who it is. That's what they're doing for artists in the industry these days. She is def an industry plant. My issue is she became wayy too basic too fast. the artistry growth didn't seem genuine. She has a lot of potential though
She can definitely get into acting or pop music. Hip hop is not the best genre for her. Hip hop music will not bring out the best in ice spice if she sincerely wants to do music. There’s to much ignorance in hip hop these days for any woman to truly thrive without being sexually exploited in an unattractive way. If she goes pop she will be okay and make better music.
The narrative that darker skinned women (and even men to an extent) have to work harder in the rap industry is 100% accurate
Well I’m a not good looking man so I have to work harder to get good looking girls…it is what it is just how the world works
@@chrizzeyc8906talk about missing the point...
@@chrizzeyc8906 That's not how the world works.
Cap plenty of dark skinned male rappers are poppin….
@@LoLo-ki1qe It is how the world works and yea I prefer me light-skinned women…light morenita is always better
Being named Isis in America is crazy
That one female critic just denied that Cardi B was black at all just to prove her point.
"She's a Latina from the Bronx."
Well, Cardi B is NOT black
You probably just broke things down a lot better than most. She’s definitely benefiting from a few privileges while also dealing with all the downsides of being a female artist in rap.
I think people are noticing now more than ever how an image/brand can carry you further than your actual talent.
She really does seem like a cool person so it’s no attack on her but she definitely qualifies as “mid” 💀 at least to people trying to be as objective as possible and aren’t just straight up fans.
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥
Madonna in my opinion was the originator of showing the world that actual musical talent, or in her case the lack thereof, can take a backseat to one's image or brand, Madonna gave the musical world a masterclass in the art of the selling of an image rather then the selling of bona fide lyrical, musical or song writer's talent all of which she clearly lacks, and this is coming from a lifelong fan as well as a one time member of her stylist brigade.. Don't get me wrong Madonna has a true and lasting talent which is her unique abilities to morph into the moment reinventing herself through dramatic physical recreations that kept the world uber intrigued with her every breath, but for a person who was once in the Alvin Ailey dance troupe family, albeit a much lower leveled group of dancers, all one need do is rewatch all of her earliest music videos to see for a profession ally trained "dancer". Madge never dances in her videos, that is other then that embarrassing box step move she does in the Lucky Star video.. She has always relied on backup dancers and her ever changing looks to win audiences and myself over.. She forged a new path for ALL female artists to now follow and they overwhelmingly have exemplified by her protege Brittany Spears and the countless others who've used Madonna's formula to parlay incredible success despite not having much vocal or musical talents..
@@MrTylerleonard13everything you said about Madonna’s “lack of talent” is ridiculous she is an excellent songwriter and is credited by many artists for helping them write successful songs and Madonna is literally famously known for her dancing skills her tours are an example of that she has actual musical talent but is downplayed by many because of jealousy and edginess
@@missthangd4311 First off love your screen name but if you reread my original post from this vantage point you'll better understand my meaning. I am from the NYC Club Kid era and so not only was I well acquainted with Madge personally but I also knew tons of people within the club scene, not just the voguing community she would later also exploit without thanks or credit, but I also knew her stylists other back up dancers and club personalities that she literally would come into contact with and turn around a steal their ideas and "reinvent" herself which is the ONLY thing she's ever really been famous for.. Whether or not she's a competent songwriter is NOT something I can judge but if it was, as you stated, her unique talent I would offer why is she not in the songwriters hall of fame or otherwise awarded for this special gift of hers.? When I say she lacks talent I mean for someone who rants she was an Alvin Aily trained dancer show me one video in which she EVER actually dances there are none and as for her singing or vocal talents well she's no singer she is however a master saleswoman period. It's not an insult in my mind because Madonna achieved her every desired aspiration but even she admits that the lack of respect by the music industry has been a source of pain for and this is NOT something I just made up she has talked openly about this for decades after being snubbed time and again at the Grammy Awards etc.. In the final analysis I admire her, respect her determination and believe she did achieve many firsts including becoming the first real solo female superstar in history creating a path for so many others who followed her she just isn't a good singer though..
@@missthangd4311 nah, Madonna was never a musical genius. Never a good songwriter and honestly not even a good singer. She doesn’t even have a nice singing tone tbh I think her tone only worked for the 80s 90s. What she is though, is smart and hardworking. She’s very creative when it comes to business and concepts. And very smart at how she executed her career, especially in the beginning. But there’s a reason nobody talks about her in conversations about amazing musicians… because she isn’t one.
she seems super down to earth and nice unlike most female artists it’s like she just seems like she’s not trying to prove she’s rly a bad bitch she’s just chill
She literally is trying to prove she “bad” 😂😂😂
@@Pack_Watch ur trippin i mean like outside of her music in various interviews which to me is what matters more music is just art
Her voice is also wayyyyyy less annoying than these other mfs.
@@Pack_Watch she’s quite quiet and chill in interviews so idk what ur talking abt
@@xPluhs That's why there's the phrase of seperating the art from the artist. She may be chill and may even be kinda a good person but her music itself and everything it promotes is trash, which ultimately reaches and negatively influences more ppl.
Good video covering all angles and aspects.
Who’s here after her feature with Taylor Swift
I get so excited when Pat uploads
Same !
SAME!!!
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I’ve always thought that disliking people for using their looks to make money is the epitome of “don’t hate the player, hate the game”
shut up foolss and listen to kyle richhh and dudeyloo and yes im the guy from the comments everywheree
Onfg I mean just look at the Kardashians.
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
She’s as mid as mid gets.
I love watching Patrick while suffering when shiny hunting in Pokémon
I love the references to colorism and giving credit to Eloho! Thank you for always keeping it real, Patrick!!
shut up foolss and listen to kyle richhh and dudeyloo and yes im the guy from the comments everywheree
Is my music fire 🔥🔥🔥
@@tvmi_1107No ❤
As a White male he dealt with this issue well and I have to say that both Drake and Ice Spice are way more marketed because of their Racial ambiguity. It's like a film we have seen many times before, Cardi B and J Lo to name a few.
@4:52 LMAO What episode is that on the JBP 😂😂😂
This is why I listen to rock and metal for good music, no autotune, and real instruments.
I know rock and metal has its critics too but that's why I love it. Hearing them actually perform their roles in the band draws me in more.
Yes. Actually being able to play music doesn’t seem to matter commercially anymore. Except to prleoe like us.
A couple things.
1. I hate that people didn’t like the music cause it was generally pretty mid but because they got to see her personality, all of a sudden it’s good now.
2. On the flip side, I hate the people that was hating and making memes about her but was in their rooms by themselves saying “that N a Munch💅💅” it’s sassy asf.
3. 7:10 is right and I don’t care what anyone has to say about it. There are MANY darker skin female rappers way better than Ice spice and my biggest example is Flo Milli. Arguably one of the best female rappers out there. Many of her songs have blown up on tiktok but no one ever gave her the chance to be mainstream. You don’t see drake giving her props, or was on xxl. People like ice spice because she’s an “underdog” breaking through mainstream, but that’s every female artist in a male dominated field. Darker skin women don’t get to drop mediocre music and break into mainstream media or are given the benefit to “get better” nicki Minaj, meg the stallion, flo milli, hell even the city girls had to come in with talent and put in the work before anyone would give them a CHANCE. If you were to look at a list of all the female rappers and listen to their music, you would see that almost all the light skin rappers make some pretty mid music and the darker skin women may not have multiple bangers but definitely better talent.
Everything you said is real truth! It's so annoying seeing music that came out of the Black community and specifically the struggles within it be watered down and lightened for the mainstream. There are a lot of dark skinned female rappers who have bars but no mainstream success. However, the community needs to do better. I see too many Black people hyping up mediocre rap while also complaining that the industry is watered down. We need to start setting our own standard for the quality of music that comes from our culture.
shut up foolss and listen to kyle richhh and dudeyloo and yes im the guy from the comments everywheree
As the old saying goes, “sex sells “
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@@IAmKentoriI agree that sex sells and people act like she doesn’t sell it but she does like the rest of the girls.
2:38 honestly I didn’t think of it like that that’s a very good point
3:20 that’s not very empowering
Interesting observation! 💪🏾❤️🔥
I feel it's your tone and delivery that makes these videos dope. Thank you
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6:50 "Mid" he said it so seriously 😂😂 Idk why that killed me
'hip-hops light-skin power couple.' lol I am dead. keep up the good work on the channel. you did not miss
1:56 nahhh yall flamin😭
I don’t think it’s the fact that people like ice spice. People just saw that she was thicc and just starting liking her
Shallow
@@turboshazed7370 It's called the truth.
@@lilsavdabest if you are shallow then sure. I agree she is thick and I do think she is good looking but the talent is there.
@@lilsavdabest I pray 21 Savage doesn't come for your neck lol
@@turboshazed7370 I'd murder him on track. 🤡🤡🤡 I been Savage before he even started rapping, I'm an OG in this shit.
I gotta say I love your videos. I've always hated hip hop and rap (for the most part) but your videos at least help keep me informed about this type of stuff
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Basically the female version of Lil Pump. The same pattern repeats. It's sad how the music industry rewards controversy more than actual talent
3:31 *BARS*
I love coming home from a tiring monday and being able to always rely on Patrick for an amazing upload.
shut up foolss and listen to kyle richhh and dudeyloo and yes im the guy from the comments everywheree
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The whole rap game is full of 🤡’s.
facts bruh the whole music game is trash now
Unrelated but your voice puts me to sleep lol love it ! So soothing
love ur channel cool to see hwo far ur channel has come
This is why I really enjoy your content. You’re subjective but also you don’t down female rappers like a lot of these male vloggers covering hip hop music. Great video.
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You pretty much touched on every reason as to why she's big Patrick. Fresh take on drill in a sense is definitely one of the bigger ones.
It isn’t drill.
@@legogandalf5453 🤨
@@TOKKO_dv using a UK drill style beat doesn’t make it drill, drill literally means murder and she clearly is not talking about that so it isn’t drill. It’s the same shit as central cee
the glazing is insaneee! shes a plant and wouldnt be famous if she wasnt twerking
@@legogandalf5453 central cee is actually a gang affilate tho he just cant mention deads cause in the uk the laws are stricter
"Explode into the mainstream" he says while showing pictures of people i have never seen before.
This is such a good analysis
I'm not a big Ice Spice fan. But based on what I have seen, people like her solely for her personality and authenticity. She may also be the first female drill to not be about violence. So in a way, she may have a chance of becoming a serious artist in years to come, unlike the rest of the young drill rappers being arrested and serving long sentences. Only time will tell.
She’s not a drill artist. She’s a pop artist using drill instrumentals.
@@legogandalf5453 Yh And I kinda like that. Pop Smoke was both a drill rapper and also a singer which is why many people love him and consider him one of the greatest NY rappers of this Generation if not of all time. I think Ice Spice is taking that same approach. She might even be better than 90% of NY drill rappers in the streets.
@@jdhoilettify idk if it’s just my perspective as someone who mainly listens to drill, but to me it feels like she’s just using the sound because it’s popping rn. Kind of reminds me of someone like a Central Cee.
the glazing is insaneee! shes a plant and wouldnt be famous if she wasnt twerking/not everything u see on interviews is true shes obv acting
nope its her body
I learn about more artists from your videos, I swear! And I am an old, old lady by online standards. I grew up in the 90's with artists like Wu-Tang Clan and Nas, but I spent a good chunk of my childhood firmly planted in front of old school Mtv, so I was also exposed to a lot of earlier 80's rap through Yo! Mtv Raps. But I like to hear what the next generations have to say, and your channel gives such a great variety of artists a chance to shine, and I just love your quietly enthusiastic passion for music. I just saw your stuff on my TH-cam homepage one day, and I decided to check out one of your videos, and I am so glad I did! Since that day, only a few weeks ago, I have watched dozens of your videos, and each time I come away with new knowledge and appreciation. It's so easy to get stuck in a rut and declare "oh, music just sucks nowadays, things were so much better back in my day," but you've proven time and again that this just isn't the case in so many instances. Thank you for all the hard work and effort you put into your content. I genuinely love your channel and I am so glad you do what you do. Keep up the amazing work!
"While twerking the pain away"....cracked up still cracking
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''while twearking the pain away'' 😆😆😆💀💀
Ice Spice is MID and so is her core audience. People want to " respect" her b/c she's a whole "vibe", but won't give that same respect to artists who are actually talented. The bar is beyond low in today's standards, so I'm not shocked she's at the level of success she's at now. The people running the music industry are experts in manipulating the impressionable 🫠
True, its about "vibes" not quality of product
Was waiting for a comment like this. I'm glad streaming exists because I can easily listen to artists with talent and discover new talent without much effort
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@@druec2863Care to put me on a few?
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Industry plant
Mann that e40 album cover is straight gold lmao.
Personally, I just really like her voice. Its a sultry alto, which is always fresh in a popular landscape dominated by soprano singers.
shut up foolss and listen to kyle richhh and dudeyloo and yes im the guy from the comments everywheree
True she does have a nice voice
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That part. I was commuting from a stressful day at work one day and put on her music. Tell me why her voice was so chill and calming for me 😂 even if she becomes a fad, her music is still fun. People take shit too seriously, especially as mainstream rap music has become so mundane along with just all music in general nowadays…
i can respect that, but feel the opposite. lighter voices like hers are like nails on a chalkboard for me. different strokes for different folks!
"She created an anthem to empower women who get their needs satisfied by a man and kick him out." That sentence made me spit my drink.😂😂😂😂
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Embarrassing lmao.
very inspirational and empowering
It’s a crazy take.
How exactly that song is "empowering"? Lmao
I feel like ice spice and other female rappers are a bad influence to the youth like encouraging woman to be hoes
I've never heard any of her music i looked at her and was like "she looks underage or she carries fake id's in her purse"
Ice Spice just seems like a regular girl. She gives me the girl that everyone liked in school, but wasn’t a bully. She doesn’t seem gimmicky. She makes fun music and doesn’t bother anyone.
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Just wait what the industry will do to her.
@@nickvnicholas7857exactly
@@nickvnicholas7857nf made a song about it
This ain't moving us out the hood this getting us across the street 😂😂😂💀😭
Excellent video and well said!
“The big smile on his face saying he wasn’t ashamed… to be a Munch.” 😂😂😂
her voice is really unique and recognisable which is pretty important in music. she seems really genuine in interviews and i hope she keeps growing :)
shut up foolss and listen to kyle richhh and dudeyloo and yes im the guy from the comments everywheree
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Her weird ass sound sticks out like a sore thumb
brother she is MONOTONE 💀 where were yall calling Lil Xan and Lil Pump unique and recognisable?
@@slick3996 how does her being monotone refute what i said? lol
2:29 one hell of a point you got there
I just found this video and im glad I did because I wouldn't have found out about kenzo b and Shani Boni; their songs are actually so good🙏
ITS THE "WHILE TWERKING THE PAIN AWAY" FOR ME.. LMAO
“Why everyone likes ice spice “ now pat you know that’s a damn lie 😂
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Forreal
People do like her tho
@@turboshazed7370 okay but is that everyone 😂
awesome commentary and im glad you talked about some stuff that most people would be scared to approach.
When you have both talents and seth confidence and also when your down to earth that's what going to help with becoming famous and popular
I love how unbiased Patrick CC is.
Edit: just saw the IAmEloho quote my god 🔥
Mondays are bad until you realize it's Pat upload day. Hope you all have a good week!