Used Car Bargain: The Peugeot 407 Coupe is Better Than You Think

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  • @James_08_07
    @James_08_07 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    You may not love the comparison, but it is honestly a compliment. These videos take me back to the early days of watching Top Gear repeats on Dave, a simpler and a happier time. Thank you.

    • @ikhoonyejelem2967
      @ikhoonyejelem2967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome

    • @martinmcdonald4207
      @martinmcdonald4207 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed, lazy afternoons on the couch! Splendid.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว

      the guys on topgear did make a point when peugout ,thought that they would be affected by their statement about the show and we could seee the cars not being able to turn like in a slow-motion movie , it was fun

    • @alexjaybrady
      @alexjaybrady ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It only suffers next to the timeless proportions of the 406coupe

  • @petyrkowalski9887
    @petyrkowalski9887 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    I love the fact that you take really interesting “forgotten” cars like this Peugeot and review them. More of the same please. Ps. I have owned several French cars down the years and to keep costs down, always booked service and repairs in France when I went on holiday there.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I am always looking for unusual stuff!

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In my country is the most sold brand either than Renault ,or high-end cars from mercedes ,BMW or Toyota. Jaguar didn´t make it because ,when buying a new car one would think ,"Oh, this car must be bad the toyota high-end van is more expensive ", "Agreed my Mazda which is longer cost me more 10.000€", Here the ones who make some money and buy a car because it´s more expensive than it´s neighboor next door new car, and some years ago Jaguar was selling their cars cheap ,in a regular country it would be a reason to sell more cars but here in Portugal people buy the cars if they are more expensive to show to others that they have more money. Some years ago the "S´s" from Mercedes were rare to see ,i had two but when driving a 73 one, people would look and ask if it was the newer model from Mercedes it looked a litle better than the 300D or W123, this in early 80´s . If i dare say that it got a V8 engine, i would be in trouble because "V8´s only in America" . At the time in average Portuguese would have cars under 70 H.p. . Being a second hand car seller as a second source of income i remenber buying cheap a Fiat UNO but it said on the side Panel "70" wich means that the car would have 70 H.P. and it were the first UNO´s that came out ,people were amazed by how much power the car got, in late 80´s i had a Mazda RX-7 bought in the netherlands to a friend of mine was not a 2+2 but a two seat car the finishings seemed years ahead of the 2+2 which was kind of ridiculous ,i had a friend who was always saying to me that he would like to have a Mazda like mine but when i opened my mouth and said it had a 1.3L wankel engine, he would look and say "it´s not possible" and in 87 there was no unleaded fuel in Portugal ,only regular and super but when i opened the door of the gasoline deposit it would say in big letter "only unleaded fuel" because no one knew what unleaded fuel was i used to put super which had more octanes, but "Katalizador, what is that"and by that time there was no inspection on cars only in the 90´s and in 94 i was driving a 74 w114 but bought in germany and it had portuguese plates but from 1983 ,once a roadpatrol asked for my papers and before leting me go the soldier said ,"in two years you have to take it to inspection, this was a very undeveloped country, i had a lot of friends from abroad that in the summer they would come to south Portuguese beaches but to show their kids how their country was 50 years ago . There were giant beaches in the south but Atlantic coast, that one could drive through out the coast and it was rare to see a Portuguese family ,only the ones that were fisherman´s and lived in litle villages by the sea . If a porshe 911 (which was rare)apeared people would say "it as a VW engine" ,a kid that his father had lot´s of money when studying and 18 he took his driver permit and his father bought him a porshe 900 and something that had a big sticker in the back in orange saying 80 in black that meant that one in his first year of driver´s permit couldn´t drive above 80 km´s hour and everyday in school people would make fun of him ,first a porshe that could drive faster than 80 km/h thahn the engine sound "it´s a VW engine" .The main car of an agriculture worker and owner of the lands was a 504 from Peugeot, mainly diesel engines but some had the 2.0L engine but some also had the 404 or the 504 sport coupé or convertible wich is rare today, a Pininfarina car

    • @weeevilswine
      @weeevilswine ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s the reason for getting it serviced in France? Better service?

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weeevilswine cheaper

  • @PKDionysus
    @PKDionysus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I've owned a 3.0 v6 Coupe for the past 5 years, and put around 70k+ km on the clock, and have loved every single kilometer. It is supremely comfortable, surprisingly engaging to drive, and once I familiarised myself with all its quirks and isms, it became an absolute blast to drive somewhat aggressively. Aerodynamically, this thing is amazing. On even the slightest of hills/declines, it picks up speed surprisingly quickly, and you can almost feel it slicing its way through the air. I've driven in excess of 1000km in a trip more than once, with a break or two, and owing to how insulated the cabin in, I arrived home without any aches, pains or major fatigue - it was incredible.
    The frameless doors however do result in wind noise being something of an issue, and the petrol engine could do with 20nm more of torque, but other than that, I love it. It has been my daily for 5 years, and whilst it does love a drink in the city (I live in a small town, in which intersections are so frequent, you may as well give up on driving economically) but I have managed to get 780km on a single tank, with city and highway driving. Considering how the car has a 67l tank, with quoted figures of 10l/100km combined, I actually did pretty well. Running costs have been pretty decent, and I have gotten away with doing 3 major services, and a single minor service in the 70k km. Fuel costs have been a different story, but with the enjoyment I derive from driving the car, I really don't care. The satnav doesn't work, but that's only because the South African government did not purchase the map rights, so the stock head unit never had nav - a discovery that tore me in half because other than a million buttons, in dash navigation was what I adored about the 407.
    The 407 Coupe has been my favourite since I saw one in 2006, as my brother drove me home from school, and we saw a silver one driving up the road. I fell in love the moment I saw that long nose, and 12 years later when I was walking through town, I saw the one I currently own on the dealer lot, staring at her. It felt like her headlights followed me - like a pair of eyes - and I fell in love. I kept looking back to see if she still there as I walked along the road, and just knew that I had to have her. Fast forward a few weeks, and as I sat in the driver's seat for the first time as her owner, I wrapped my hands around the steering wheel and wept. It was a moment I will never forget, not least because two minutes later, I crashed into the gate of my building's underground lot as I drove out.
    Anyway, this wasn't supposed to be nearly as long as it turned out to be. What I actually wanted to say was, Peugeot's get a bad rap from everybody and their dog, but honestly, there really are some diamonds in the Peugeot lineup, and the 407 Coupe is certainly one of them.
    Cheers.

  • @MrR2185
    @MrR2185 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    As an American visiting Germany a few years ago, we rented a black 407, in 4 door sedan flavor. Two things stuck out, the ride quality and the general feeling of heaviness. Closing the doors felt like closing a bank vault door. You could feel how heavy and planted it was on the road. It just felt really solid for a "non-luxury" car like a Mercedes or the like. The ride quality was this awesome balance of firm and poised but also soft and compliant. Having driven many regular brand cars from the US and Japan, from Ford Fusions, Mazda 6 and Toyota Camry...the 6 being my favorite.... I can say this French car really left a positive impression on me and makes me wish we could get them in the states.

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      PSA has tried for decades to offer their vehicles to selected dealers in the USA... but the low power numbers, while more than enough for legal speeds, are frowned upon in North America

    • @Obi-Wan___99
      @Obi-Wan___99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Nice cars french guys do. I have a Citroen C4 coupe that is so special. May the Force be with you

    • @jonnywalker3208
      @jonnywalker3208 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any sentence that starts with "as an American" ... you know there's nothing worth reading afterwards.
      🇺🇸 = 💩

    • @MrR2185
      @MrR2185 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jonnywalker3208 Well, 54 people liked what I said....and you came at me with hostility which makes your comment completely useless. Like a child eating glue stumbling into a room of adults having a conversation and saying "I like turtles".....but it's ok, son, be proud of your contributions, for it is all you're capable of.

    • @MrR2185
      @MrR2185 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DiegoRuiz1991 That is too bad. The car was not "fast" but it had respectable torque when we went into the mountains in southern Germany.

  • @johnball4826
    @johnball4826 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I had the 406 Pininfarina 3.0 V6 coupe. It was a far better looking car. Fast and surprisingly economical. I kept it for 12 years and the only fault was a coil pack, easily replaced. Everything was standard, no extras to pay for - heated leather seats, sat nav, auto box.
    Beautiful metallic pale blue with tan leather seats.

    • @petyrkowalski9887
      @petyrkowalski9887 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They are lovely cars…beautifully styled

    • @AxLWake
      @AxLWake ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yes, the 406 Coupé was the better looking car, for sure. Very elegant yet sporty.
      I love Pininfarina's design from the 90's and early 00's.

    • @speak_your_truth.
      @speak_your_truth. ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, they are lovely. Bit of ferrari about their graceful lines. That's pinnfarina for you 🙂

    • @bensmithkent22
      @bensmithkent22 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jesus that segment had some lookers at the time e46 c70 406 coupe. Even the original clk. Shame alfa hadnt made a 156 coupe just imagine 😮

    • @AxLWake
      @AxLWake ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bensmithkent22 Well, they did. Kind of. The Alfa GT was build on the 156 plateforme. Even if they did not look that similar.

  • @billwild673
    @billwild673 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I used to own a 407 coupe (the 2.7 V6 diesel) and it was a great car. I had it for about 5 years and loved it. It's not a sports car, but think of it as a grand tourer and you won't be disappointed.

  • @Bumper3D
    @Bumper3D ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My friend has had a 407 saloon with the 2-litre petrol engine for over 15 years now and he has no intention of replacing it anytime soon. I've been servicing it for the last 10 years and the thing has been nearly faultless. It's never had any major electrical problems or anything go wrong with the powertrain. The front suspension "swivel joints", a tie rod end and droplink every now and then, rear brake calipers, the power steering pump and the center display screen have been the only things I recall replacing other than regular service items. It is a quiet and reliable workhorse even at 350k kilometers, a way better car than people give it credit for.

  • @juusosimola8600
    @juusosimola8600 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I don't comment much on videos, but now I just have to. Having owned one of these for about a year and a half now, I can say that you put my thoughts into words so well! Your observations from the slightly diesel sounding idle and the somewhat strange looks to the ride quality are spot on. When I tell people that the ride is comparable to some much higher end cars they look at me like I'm insane. Peugeot really nailed the chassis on these, it's firmer than the saloons but not umcomfortable and gets better the faster you go, up to a point of course. For the money I can't think of a better car. It's nice to see someone else also "gets" this car. Keep up the great work with the channel!

    • @Anrirua
      @Anrirua ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The idle noise is the hydraulic lifters. As it warms up, it purrs. That noise worried me initially but I miss my Coupe a lot.

  • @maxmannonen8170
    @maxmannonen8170 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    James deserves more subs, try to get this beast of a man to 300k this year!!

  • @Gorbyrev
    @Gorbyrev ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is why I love this channel. Owner of an F12 is literate about the wonders of a old Pug barge. Brilliant.

  • @mimaz7155
    @mimaz7155 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Peugeot, when I was young, my dad had a 504 and he loved it so much

  • @theodor12
    @theodor12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I saw a dark blue metallic 407 coupe with white leather seats last year. I must admit it's a good looking thing.

  • @snoopy10411
    @snoopy10411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for making me feel old. I'm. Only 42 and I can vividly remember the 406 coming out like it was yesterday, let alone the 407. My dad had a 405 for most of my childhood

  • @BkSMedia
    @BkSMedia ปีที่แล้ว +5

    a friend of mines had a black 407 Coupe with the 3.0l V6 and man what a car that was. Rode beautiful, had a wonderful induction noise and the seats really do hug you!!

  • @arekb5951
    @arekb5951 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    My biggest surprise with this car was the fact that the suspension on these is pretty much bulletproof even though it's quite complex. The roads were pretty bad where I live until very recently and this Pug took them like a champ for years, whereas the competitive multilink solution in VW/Audi cars from the era would report its dissatisfaction with the roads quality (by knocking audibly) every year or two .

    • @FuelPoverty
      @FuelPoverty ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've owned a 2.2 Hdi diesel SW GT from new, 15 years old next week, 120k, It still rides like new, although the lower ball joints do fail fairly quickly, mine is on it's second set, I also own a 2016 508, which does not have the double wishbones of the 407, the difference is like night and day, fidgety and crashy on anything but a good road. If I had to choose just one, it would be the 407. The 407 is "white gold". Apparently a colour that only I, in the entire world, likes.

    • @vinkobilandzic22
      @vinkobilandzic22 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own a Peugeot 407 2.0 hdi and it's the worst piece of shit i have ever driven. Front suspension is like paper, i can change something every 3 months.
      Only the engine on these cars is good, everything else is a french piece of shit

    • @gtheskater
      @gtheskater ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FuelPoverty my dad has a light gold old mercedes c190. It grew on me and i quite enjoy it now

  • @Nile9063
    @Nile9063 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I once dreamed of a 406 coupe as my first car, but I didn't end up getting one. Sadly. The 406 coupe was incredibly beautiful.

    • @gintas830
      @gintas830 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is the reason I have this 406 coupe with a v6 engine now :)

    • @defallko3905
      @defallko3905 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      on my way to inspect mine :)@@gintas830

  • @frenchbred2081
    @frenchbred2081 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have 3 of the extremely rare (only 51 sold in the uk) run out 3.0 hdi 407 coupes. Such an awesome car and with 310 bhp they fly. Electronic dampers, double glazed windows, these coupes are so refined and smooth. I achieve 40-50mpg on a run even with the weight and high power output. I bought my first one to replace my Range Rover sport and it’s miles better. I also have several of the much prettier v6 406 coupes but the 407 is actually a much improved car over the 406. Don’t get me wrong the 406 is brilliant, it goes well, looks and rides superb but the 407 is in a league above for refinement and comfort. Don’t compare the 407 to the 407 coupe it’s a totally different car, just enjoy it for what it is. Very underrated and also very reliable when looked after properly. The 407 coupe was also built on a slower moving production line to aid build quality and fit and finish. It shows as mine have not a single rattle or creak in 13 years.

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rubbish, these are riddled in faults, especially electronics.
      Your dash is a Christmas tree!!

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 ปีที่แล้ว

      'Underrated'
      Web speak, yuck.

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 407 and 407 coupe is not 'a totally different car' that's empirically false.
      These cars are rubbish.

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 ปีที่แล้ว

      He needs 3 to keep one of them going....

    • @BlueHopi144
      @BlueHopi144 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tastypymp1287 try again when u get sobered up from the W-E

  • @coldvaper
    @coldvaper ปีที่แล้ว +5

    being in America I always like watching videos like yours about vehicles that I didn't even know existed. It also makes me jealous sometimes...lol

  • @retrooutput
    @retrooutput 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I know many people hate French cars through their own experiences or Top Gear telling them such, but there are some absolute shining lights in Peugeot's history, this being one along with the 406 Coupe, 306, 106 of course the 205 and even really the 206 - each of them had a decent top end model which I've been lucky enough to own most.
    I'm putting a rare gold 2.2 HDI 406 Coupe back on the road at the moment, but if that doesn't work out, I'll be seeking out a 407 Coupe I think!

    • @mickd94
      @mickd94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It'll not disappoint you!

  • @deaks25
    @deaks25 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I've got a big soft spot for the Peugeot coupes. The 406 is still a looker, the 407 is not quite as good looking but still distinctive and has grown on me over the years and the RCZ after it's facelift is a lovely looking car. Engines are mostly 'meh' but honestly, if I needed a cheap but stylish car, a Peugeot coupe would be on the shortlist somewhere.

    • @Rinanathar
      @Rinanathar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a blue 406 coupe for 17 years. Loved it.

    • @cologne2792
      @cologne2792 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rinanathar I've had a blue 406 coupe for 5 years. It's been great fun but it's now not sure if it's Italian or French. Rust in the rear three quarters, electrical issues, random limp mode and bits of trim falling off. Still gorgeous though.

    • @Rinanathar
      @Rinanathar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cologne2792 I had 5 th gear die on me window and windscreen motors fail but that was it. 230000 miles. A beautiful but tired girl. You’re right about French Italian identities. :) 👍👍

    • @ianfrost3529
      @ianfrost3529 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My uncle as a 2.7hdi automatic.
      He had it about 10 years and it’s done nearly 200000miles and it’s been no less reliable than any other brand.
      My uncle has said about selling it but like he said there is no point as it isn’t worth anything but it’s reliable and he likes it.

    • @MrChimpeh
      @MrChimpeh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RCZ really needed the 3.0 & RWD

  • @Oii_dave
    @Oii_dave ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant content again , Really enjoy these on my lunch hour at work !

  • @seanmichaelp724
    @seanmichaelp724 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    JayEmm is literally the easiest car youtuber to watch. Great content that highlights some absolutely terrific hidden gems.

  • @fairybuddy-angel2035
    @fairybuddy-angel2035 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    French cars always did, and still do, look so much better than all the other metal boxes bouncing around out there. Better built and performing than many would claim too. Loving current Peugeot and Citroen and DS. Renault on a roll too. Allez.

    • @ertebelj
      @ertebelj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Renault doesn’t get to recieve praise. But PSA is What makes a french car Good

  • @fasthracing
    @fasthracing ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Had a new 1997 406 Coupe. It was a decent thing.

  • @Lukesummers94
    @Lukesummers94 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From a pure looks perspective i'll always liked how these look as an estate

  • @TheJustaviewman
    @TheJustaviewman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the 407 coupe, it's tres bon.

  • @jakublulek3261
    @jakublulek3261 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For some reason, I really like 407 Coupé, how it looks and drives, especially with 3.0V6 petrol. It is smooth, quiet, comfortable and classy. Something almost Jaguar-ish about it. But they are very rare, especially with my preferred petrol V6.

  • @jamescoe764
    @jamescoe764 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really good review James. It's a car I would never have considered test driving but maybe I would now

  • @4UPedran
    @4UPedran ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video almost made me cry. I have a 1.6 hdi 407 sw and i absolutely love my wagon. But everyone makes fun and jokes about how bad the 407 is. This is video made me very happy. The 407 coupe is beautiful and it has some great features! Amazing video and thank you.

  • @james-ok4nl
    @james-ok4nl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 307 cc 2.0 hdi and I love it, I think it looks really smart, no problems at all in over 4 years

  • @dougmoodie8713
    @dougmoodie8713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fell in love with the 407sw soon as I saw it, just looked so different and sleek. I have a 2010 sw sport and won’t part with it till it dies, just love it ❤

  • @Taylor40667
    @Taylor40667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is why I love this channel 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
    Its a old top gear in the present day

  • @jjharson7344
    @jjharson7344 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That seems like a really decent car to be fair.... loved your review of it, great stuff and top notch reporting on it too...

  • @HairpinMagazine
    @HairpinMagazine ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I drove 407 SW 2.0 diesel for 9 years, and was quite pleased with it. Top mileage, lots of trunk space, fairly reliable. It had the notorious air vent claps failure and the screen was faulty. The replacement screen was dirt cheap, air vents not so much. Today I drive C5 3.0 HDI biturbo (you mentioned that engine in this video), and this engine is a joy to drive. Not the fastest from the start, but it has some power when it starts to move. I believe that a 407 coupe with that engine would be a serious intercontinental transporter :-)

  • @im2noob4bronze
    @im2noob4bronze ปีที่แล้ว

    my dad owns a 307 sw as you showed i the beginning, and what i great family-mover it is. trunk space is just insane, it can easily fit my whole 4 person family's stuff when we go for month-long summer vacation in my village, and it's 1.6 Lt engine can easily maintain 130kmph in highways. the room even for the rear seats is excellent too, super confortable. only it's fuel consumption is not very good, but we fitted it with liquid gas a few years ago and now this changed completely

  • @tristanfletcher
    @tristanfletcher ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Any time I see one of these I think "wonder what those are like"? Wonder no more!
    Edit: Thank you, Michaels brother.

  • @punkgoestheweasel
    @punkgoestheweasel ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad had one of these in dark teal with seashell seats and it was really nice, loved going on long trips in it

  • @BorisG13
    @BorisG13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is reason I love your channel. Your review actually interesting and unusual cars

  • @jacklee7104
    @jacklee7104 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as ever, that "my first car was a 407" got me though doesn't seem that long since they came out.

  • @BAC_Mono
    @BAC_Mono ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one of these! A 10 mile manual V6 coupe bought from a Peugeot dealer where it had been sitting in the showroom for a year. I paid 1/2 MRSP! I also had a BMW 650i, a previous unsung hero you featured. You're literally working your way through my old car history James. May I suggest one of the following next? Renault GTA Turbo, Peugeot 406 V6 coupe. Thanks for featuring some interesting cars on your channel.

  • @thesingingshade7984
    @thesingingshade7984 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting Car Jay not the run of the mill stuff and this is why I keep watching your videos! Keep it up.

  • @lucabeckr
    @lucabeckr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I genuinely think this and the 406 coupe built by Pininfarina are one of the most beautiful mid-class coupes ever built.
    Another rare coupe of this sort is the Renault Laguna Coupe which could also make an interesting video.

  • @EasyAchiever65
    @EasyAchiever65 ปีที่แล้ว

    My story follows almost the same as you! My first car was a 2004 407 3.0 V6 sedan, had that for a about a year and then moved to a E46 325ci. Still have it today as a little back up car.

  • @Emppu_T.
    @Emppu_T. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have me contemplating on becoming a Peugeot driver.

  • @robsmall6466
    @robsmall6466 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Think these have aged quite well. Used to be relatively common ( in silver ) but a rare sight now

  • @benfica2677
    @benfica2677 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've owned the 2.7 hdi for 6 year's. Amazing engine,comfort and luxury for the price. Since i couldn't afford the A5

  • @katzicael
    @katzicael ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always love the look of the 407 Coupe, that and the 308 RCZ which was gorgeous.

  • @mheijne2
    @mheijne2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Own a 407 coupe V6 automatic. Comfortabele, fast and very reliable. Also black with red leather. Love it to bits

  • @HirooKoslov
    @HirooKoslov ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That burgundy leather is wonderful, if only my 308 GTi had upholstry that nice..

  • @wearetomorrowspast.5617
    @wearetomorrowspast.5617 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the buttresses at the rear window, kind of a throwback to oldy time fins over the rear wheel arches.
    As to the USB ports, I think that they are a great option, I can download and listen to anything I want. Much better than listening to some insipid radio station.
    Great channel, I don't like most of these cars but I love the history and presentation. Very cool.

  • @jaybruce593
    @jaybruce593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran one of these, with the 2.7v6 diesel for a few years, they are a great car, massively under rated.

  • @DavidDatura
    @DavidDatura ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What about the Peugeot 406 Coupé from the late 90s early 2000s? One of the most beautiful designs ever put into production and still is, affordable too! Nobody ever talks about that underrated gem. Have they all rusted away or something? 🤷‍♂️

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Er no.
      A nice example of Pininfarina design but 'one of the most beautiful designs ever put into production' is a deeply absurd and false statement.

    • @davidevans4089
      @davidevans4089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree.

    • @rattymcclelland
      @rattymcclelland ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tastypymp1287 each to their own opinion of course. The 406 coupe is stunning, easily one of the best. Although my opinion is skewed with nostalgia as my Dad was on the the first to get a Tucanae green 406 coupe back in early 97.

    • @PinkGuy120
      @PinkGuy120 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a video on a 407 Coupe in case you missed it

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Pink Guy Yeah but their inner narc needs to make it about them.

  • @ajwest3081
    @ajwest3081 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice summary James.
    Being c.10 years older than you - reminded me of my own Big French Bargain in the early 00s. £5,000 for a 3 year old ex company car /fleet Renault Laguna 2.0 RTI 16v. A 1998 version I loved it’s engine coming from a diesel Renault 19.
    Girlfriend of the time called it a barge - but it had a huge boot and the all important aerofoil !

  • @indiefferential2856
    @indiefferential2856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Early 2000s vibes. Great work!

  • @TheHuskyGT
    @TheHuskyGT 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The car is absolutely gorgeous inside out, like the old 406. But I will never understand why they come with such small underpowered engines. You would think these would come with a 3.5 or bigger 6 cylinder that could move the car a lot easier, plus make it sound better as well.

  • @eze8970
    @eze8970 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks J, this seems to be one from Peugeots 'forgotten era'! 🙏🙏

  • @MrManniG
    @MrManniG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a driver of a now ten year old 207SW:
    Buying that car must have been one of the best ideas I had. I now have that car for 6 of those years in that that time i had to replace (exept for regular service): the electronic cluch of the AC. and thats it.
    I get charged for a hatchback whilst driving a station wagon that did put on two occasions my dad's passat to shame.

  • @onelyone6976
    @onelyone6976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once it became clearer that I needed a car eventually, but didn’t really know how much I’d be able to spend I found one these 407 coupé’s for sale, it had pretty much indetical specs, other than it had the 2.9 petrol V6. They wanted 6k€ for it and I had nowhere near enough money for it so I was just dreaming but nevertheless. I ended up purchasing just a mundane mk2 Megane for 1300€ over a year later.
    Speaking of french coupé’s, I would absolutely love to see a laguna mk3 coupé on the channel, they look so good. One of the best looking cars at the time IMO.

  • @specialboye4910
    @specialboye4910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:45 Location : satisfactory
    Made me giggle that did, if you go through a bad area does it change??

  • @Abrvpt
    @Abrvpt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Leaving a bad BMW 118i with engine problems, I went on the hunt for a sensible car with less kilometers, a low price but still having at least a 2.0 petrol. Found myself buying a 407, I did considered the coupé but being heavier and slightly more expensive, I kept to my goal of being sensible and got the sedan. This video makes me regret my choice a bit !
    I still miss the BMW for its rear wheel drive balance, but to be fair i'm having good fun on twisty country roads with the 407. Give the rear tires a bit too much pressure and you can even loose the rear on the wet !

  • @Kryptic1046
    @Kryptic1046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the way it looks. Maybe it's just because I'm from the States but I think it's cool and it's different than anything we have over here. The interior looks good too. I would drive one of those, especially at those used prices.

  • @Bercilakdehautdesert-yt1gd
    @Bercilakdehautdesert-yt1gd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Until my two lads turned into six footers (five years ago) we ran a pair of these as family cars, with an MG Midget for fun. They were both black, 2.2 petrols, one cloth, one leather interior. I preferred the cloth as it gripped far better. The suspension was sublime with double wishbone front and indie rear, a very pretty aluminium structure if that's what floats your boat.
    I liked the double glazing, I liked the solid feel, the fuel economy and the power delivery, and the cheap parts. I wasn't fond of the looks, but you don't have to look at it from the inside. We took ours to the South of France and set off numerous speed cameras (never received any fines :-) ) and perhaps the best bit was both cost less than £2k.
    The only downside is the lack of rear headroom. Shame, they were brill and I will get another at some point.

  • @posniknelb6114
    @posniknelb6114 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3.0 v6 Twin turbo diesel coupe is an Very rare car in this country. Couldn't find one at the time I was looking.

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have got 3 , cornered the market!

    • @posniknelb6114
      @posniknelb6114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂 now I know why. That was the deal breaker for me. Didn't fancy the 2.7

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@posniknelb6114 indeed. They do come up for sale rarely and with only 51 sold in the uk 13 years ago there are even less about now. What did you buy in the end?

    • @posniknelb6114
      @posniknelb6114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Audi a5 3.0tdi coupe

  • @f4tpie
    @f4tpie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very enjoyable review of an excellent all rounder for the regular man.
    I work all over the country but due to work hours commonly have to sleep in the car. Therefore I needed and frugal, reliable and lengthy estate. I landed on a Merc C220 (2012) as they came from a time when Mercedes were trying to re establish their reputation for reliability and it achieves 70+mpg and has 170bhp. I could well have saved £3.5k and bought one of these!
    I would love to see a comparison video between normal ‘every man’ cars such as a 10-15yr old 320d, Volvo V70 and Peugeot for example as cars for normal people under £5k. Chris Harris’ ‘do you need more than a 320d’ video style.
    Great video!

  • @mickd94
    @mickd94 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great meeting you James, glad you enjoyed the car!

    • @James_08_07
      @James_08_07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice job with the tyre dressing!

    • @mickd94
      @mickd94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@James_08_07 its not bad for a car park detail! Haha

    • @brianiswrong
      @brianiswrong ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for letting james show and drive it for us.
      Loving the leather colour, and my works 2019 berlongo van (which iam sat in) has the same lindicator/ light stalk👍

    • @mickd94
      @mickd94 ปีที่แล้ว

      @bryan yes, it reminds me of my Peugeot 206 I had as a first car! Leagues above that though in terms of build quality and reliability

  • @SteaveBg
    @SteaveBg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own 2.2 coupes and it's a nice car with a bit of a luxury feeling. The main problems are front suspension and sensors falts. For the price is a fantastic value

  • @dunnockdan
    @dunnockdan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aged very well this car, look at the "gawwwping" front ends we have nowadays.

  • @thecreedy
    @thecreedy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Speaking of French cars. A Citroën C6 overtook my coach on the M4 today. C6GCT was the reg. Haven't seen one in years and thats more French than the French themselves lol.

  • @user-sf7kl9uh7k
    @user-sf7kl9uh7k 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This explains Jays nice production work. A smart man

  • @robloxfan4271
    @robloxfan4271 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 2008 407 sedan in GT spec, was a lovely car and very well equipped

  • @AxLWake
    @AxLWake ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a cool car I guess but I've always thought the design was a let down in comparison to the previous model. The 406 coupé was much more elegant (designed by Pinifarina, with lines similar to Ferrari's of the time).

  • @PenryMMJ
    @PenryMMJ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The looks do let it down a bit compared to previous Peugeot coupes, but at current prices they are tempting.

  • @Rouxenator
    @Rouxenator ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES!!!! I love it. Had one exactly like that myself. They are awesome and I would buy another any day. Rear seat access is very easy since the front seats move forward electrically. Just don't fit a knock-off Chinese A/C pump - it totalled mine after 3 years.

    • @khalidacosta7133
      @khalidacosta7133 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did the AC pump total your car? Belt went into the cambelt?

  • @aggelostrifw2280
    @aggelostrifw2280 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up having a Sedan 1.8 407(my father's car) and we may be the only family in my area who has this car. It's simply unique and great on driving for it's age . I'm looking to really buy the 2.7 Coupe and this review really makes me feel better as not many people really do know this model in my county (Greece)

  • @jamesonslow
    @jamesonslow ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice, fair review on an underrated noughties car. I daily drive a flame red 307 1.6 HDi Sport. It gets probably way more love and attention than most 307s, e.g. decent Michelin tyres. On a good day (i.e. between minor, usually cheap to fix niggles), it is a very good thing for a motorway cruise, easy trip into town or B-road raz. A light remap has given it sufficient punch and still average 60mpg. A second hand bargain 5 years and 70k miles ago... no regrets.

  • @Spheredalai
    @Spheredalai ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video explains why i am convinced James has the BEST shots and camera setups in all of his videos, because he is a film school graduate! good to know!

  • @ThunderChunky101
    @ThunderChunky101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 406 really was a very good looking car.
    Very, very good looking.
    Time to revisit?
    I had one for about a week once, the Pininfarina coupe with a 3l engine. It was surprisingly slow though, sold it for more than I'd bought it a week later.

  • @MM-00777
    @MM-00777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good you do an honest review of a Peugeot. If it was a certain programme, they would have slagged it off from the start-only because they can afford better. I have owned a 407 SW and 7 other Peugeots which have been very reliable, despite what they say. I changed from a BMW X5 which i lost 12k in 2 yrs! The 407 SW i bought, lost 3 k in 4 yrs approx....and did a great job for my family. Granted some of the smaller engine ones are not great, but if you get a bigger engine and service it-it will serve you well with only minor problems which all cars get.

  • @GabrielSTEFAN943
    @GabrielSTEFAN943 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just saw that the sedan pulled 1.0g at Brands Hatch on the occassion of Autocar's 2004 for Britain's Best Driver's Car. However, you've got to drive a 3.0 petrol version. They all come with an adaptive suspension (with around 17 stages of stiffness that can change every 22 ms and a sport mode to have it stiffer all the time), a variable steering (hydraulic, not electrohydraulic like the one you drove) and a valved exhaust (it even does pops). The engine's not the quickest, but it makes an incredible noise inside, much more special than an Alfa V6 of that time and if it's not a coupe it only comes with a 6 speed auto that was also fitted to the Mini Cooper S or the BMW i8. If it's a bit wet, it throws the back around very easily. My dad has a 3.0 petrol SW from new and it's just surprising to see what a special car it is. BTW, the mk1 508 was also a 407 underneath, but with double wishbone fitted only to the top GT spec. Anyway, thanks a lot for the review, it makes me giggle to have someone like you say good things about the car.

  • @german_lifestyle_tajbakhsh7282
    @german_lifestyle_tajbakhsh7282 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoyed every single word you expressed. I have a coupe and I really adore it! Take a look at it❤

  • @TheKrakovv
    @TheKrakovv ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love those more affordable car reviews

  • @echatz
    @echatz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember seeing one in a self serve wreckers here in AU. My heart sunk. It was black, 2.9 V6. I see many 407s, yet this was better built, closer to my 607 (same cluster as well). They are definitely underated.
    I may have to pick a bone with you! I think I may have to buy one!
    Thank you for the great review, stay awesome!

  • @ilkkalanger9416
    @ilkkalanger9416 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please Please find a decent 607 with the 2.2 Petrol and you will find out that it is a car even less appreciated and known even among Peugeot Connaisseurs. Just an oddball with a huge boot, plenty of room, excellent handling in town (the turning circle is smaller than you would expect) and fun on twisty country roads. I own a 607 and also a 2.2 petrol 406 Coupé. I will probably keep them for ever 🤩

  • @spanishpeaches2930
    @spanishpeaches2930 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this car from the first time i saw one. Used to have a standard petrol 407...lovely to drive over distance...always niggles with it though

  • @orion2901
    @orion2901 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These are pretty much the same thoughts I have about the laguna coupe. Loved that thing 👍

    • @benjaminvolant3083
      @benjaminvolant3083 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I never understood why the Laguna coupe never sold more. It was a very nice looking car when it came out. It has aged a bit now, but whenever I see one on the roads, I always kind of fancy driving one.

    • @orion2901
      @orion2901 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benjaminvolant3083 drove one up until recently, it was a lovely car!

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benjaminvolant3083 i never heard of a laguna coupé ,it´s the first time i´m reading that exists one, only knew the megane coupé wich was a nice car , a cousin of mine has one and the plastic parts on the dash are just breaking just by toutching them

  • @alfamonk
    @alfamonk ปีที่แล้ว

    Had the V6 2.7 for a couple of years; great bargain-barge wafting. Averaged 39mpg on the M40. had it remapped which I don't recommend as it started messing up the autobox and eventually the DPF, but it was a comfortable mile-muncher

  • @Anrirua
    @Anrirua ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it. Well done.
    Did a lot of research on a superb used beast before I bought one of these, 7 years old, for 4k euros. Got a 2.2 petrol sv. No other car came close at that price. Totally misunderstood car and the 2.2 petrol is actually the best of the range. Easy to live with. Less hassle than the diesels, dirt cheap as people fear petrol (40mpg on long spins at 60) and when converted to lpg as I did (Prins), turned a 140 mile 5 day a week commute into fun. Very wide, very assured, very hard on front suspension, very very gamey in 3rd gear and not too bad on tyres at all.
    Brought mine from 70k to 150k miles before head gasket issues (lpg runs HOT and dry).
    One of the finest cars Ive ever owned, for bargain money. Very reliable and not a mere 407. Extremely well scrwed together. Separate factory and production line.
    235/45/18s Hankooks, about €600 all round. Can work on 225 also, if you're tight.

  • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
    @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The pre-facelift Peugeot 406 Coupe has always been a favourite of mine. It's a shame one cannot find a single example in proper condition.

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It’s probably because I have them all! 8 of them all in mint condition stored away.,!

    • @BenjiB-
      @BenjiB- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frenchbred2081 really? I can’t tell if you are joking

    • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
      @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frenchbred2081
      Lucky you ;) !

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BenjiB- it’s not a joke. I have 50 cars in the collection, 8 of which are 406 v6 coupes.

    • @DavidDatura
      @DavidDatura ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why are they so rare and hard to find in good condition? One of my personal favorite (affordable) car designs ever.

  • @ImReqularr
    @ImReqularr ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I own the 2.7 diesel model. Absolute grand tourer! Very smooth on the highway but stable during curves due to the active suspension.

    • @martingustafsson2552
      @martingustafsson2552 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ha! same here. I also have the 2.7 HDI with active suspension but the SW, I love every mile I drive in that car!

    • @raula.c4771
      @raula.c4771 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also have a 2.7 HDI coupe and it is very comfortable to drive and to make long trips, the thermostat box failed me once but everything is fine, it already has 167,000 kilometers.

    • @kevinalisi
      @kevinalisi ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Raul have u with car any problems?

    • @kevinalisi
      @kevinalisi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raula.c4771 Are you satisfied with the car, would you recommend it?

    • @kevinalisi
      @kevinalisi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raula.c4771 hmm ok. thanks

  • @kisielthe1st
    @kisielthe1st ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first car was a 407SW as well. Unfortunately a drunk driver crashed into me head on. Me and my passanger walked away only with bruises from the seatbelts. The other guy died on the spot. Props for safety.
    The most comfortable leather seats I ever sat in a car. None of that side-holding sh*t. Just a comfortable, squeaky, cushioned thick-leather couch.

  • @waters1801
    @waters1801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the styling of this

  • @mrb6094
    @mrb6094 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had 2 407 saloons. An Xline and a GT. Both 2.0 diesel. Previous was a 406 and subsequently was a 508 GT.

  • @tomaszmagierowski2166
    @tomaszmagierowski2166 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got to drive my uncle's 407 2.0 coupe and I really liked the drive.

  • @playerzoma
    @playerzoma ปีที่แล้ว

    i loved this car!!! had the 2.0 hdi coupe in gold !!! just love!

  • @XxXnonameAsDXxX
    @XxXnonameAsDXxX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This coupe, if specced all out makes an extremely compelling grand tourer with the 2.0 hdi engine for two people.

  • @melb6528
    @melb6528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 406 range and the coupe were really good cars at the time the diesel estate was very popular still some around now

  • @williamdrijver4141
    @williamdrijver4141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite a rare and interesting car. In terms of image much more attractive than a BMW / Mercedes / Audi etc.

  • @blagssss
    @blagssss ปีที่แล้ว

    bought a 330ci clubsport after seeing your car history video, no regrets :)

  • @Laugenstnge
    @Laugenstnge 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im driving the 407 SW 2.2l DIesel, double glasing, full colour display with navigation, sim card slot etc was all normal in that car too

  • @johnshaw359
    @johnshaw359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Twas a time when Peugeot were known for outstanding handling and quick gearboxes, they lost the plot post the Pininfarina era somewhere.