Hi folks, let me know how you found this. If it was helpful or if it was to basic? Its not an easy to cover in just one video. If you would like more of an in-depth look then let me know. Cheers
Love ya! Started the game a few days ago. What do u recommend manufacturing in the beginning? Btw cool vid but ofc a little too far in the future for me :D
Very useful video. Well explained. You come unstuck when you claim the market value of the HML II is 1M when those are speculative sell orders. The true value is what someone is willing to pay, which is your 902K figure, when your buy order was entered. Don't make the mistake of looking at a sell order price and assuming you can get that, as you are only guaranteed to be able to sell at an Immediate buy price, which is oftentimes (much) less.
Hey John, 46-49% is really high! This can be increased with decrytors but at a cost. I will cover this in a future video. In the past invention was much more hassle. Over the years CCP has slowly given invention a leg up to stop people complaining about T2 BPO's.
You cover the basics quite extensively. For a new player trying to get into manufacturing it's helpful. As you demonstrated though doesn't look profitable. So why do all these people bother? This is what some of us want to know. Part of it i guess has to do with buying orders and also doing the process from start to finish. You nailed it though when you said that it's a nightmare. Please follow up on this with the ways on how it can be profitable. Thank you for the time you take to create this content. Keep up the good work!
I approach ALL manufacturing from the lens of self-sufficiency rather than mass profit. I also have my own mini-game based on the Activity Tracker. I have been researching for a few years now, and am steadily growing my activity tree from creating the occasional Tech2 ammunition batch to making Sleipnirs and Mastodons (Yes I am Minmatar). I am currently researching a Tempest BPC with the hope of making my own Vargur......... Research is fun for me- I am pretty sure I am still running net negative over the years, but all I am looking for is sustainable fun......I just want to make enough to fund my next industry milestone. After the Vargur (hopefully) I will be looking to get an Athanor (Upwell structure) and find a good place to do a little Moon Mining.
I have like 0% to do with Industry in EVE, only pve and pvp. Yet, your videos are real interesting. Love it :) Might wanna check your spelling of "Manufacturing" in the thumbnail though.
cool. Been playing just over a month and have just got my first PI set up, made some construction blocks, and also now have a character in a position to start looking at T2 stuff so this was incredibly handy and just about the right amount of basic for an idiot like me ;~)
T2 stuff can be a serious pain in the butt, especially if you get involved into the "entire" manufacturing process. It is much easier if you have the support of a corporation, otherwise, you might find yourself overwhelmed unless you approach it from the "eat the elephant" concept. Cheers.
What’s the best way to determine what is needed and how to buy the lowest level material, react them and then use that to build the parts and the build the end item?
Learned something new today! Hovering over the the success probability percentage shows you the necessary skills and the level you are at. Is there anyway to see the affect on the probability as you increase your skills?
decryptors weren't mentioned? I can't get out of using these which blow the budget for many items. Now to try and figure out how you are at 10 science jobs while I'm stuck at 1 lol
I believe the skills you want to look into are Labratory Operation and Advanced Labratory Operation. If your science skills are too low to get success without decryptors then you will be incurring massive additional costs that gobble all of your profit. You would be better off waiting a bit with invention until your science skills catch up.
Only the BPC go away after the amount of runs you did for them, for an example you did 500 runs on a middle BPC than after the 500 runs it’ll go away, now for the BPO if you did 4995 runs and finished it, it won’t go away, you’ll still have it
Think of it as leasing a car to financing a car. Leasing a car, you have it for a couple of years and you give it back and get a better one. You finance a car, you have it and pay it off and it’s still yours. BPC is leasing and BPO is Financing
It can be ok income, just make sure and research (don't trust the est numbers) what it's cost and your profit will be. I also suggest not doing so many, I like a 1 / 10 and run those. I only play 1 toon, so keeping spots open for orders makes a difference, with all science trained to 4 (min) depending on the item you will get ave of 4 out of 10 to 6 out of 10. each of those 1 is 10 runs (unless ships) so can keep 1 toon busy. If ammo mining crystals always sell good, the mega miners go thru them, set sales near .5 systems as believe it or not there lazy. Stay out of market hubs unless a quick sale, to much competition you don't get isk back when you drop the price. Always use player owned stations with lowest tax rate. CCP is killing us with the taxes.
Hi folks, let me know how you found this. If it was helpful or if it was to basic? Its not an easy to cover in just one video. If you would like more of an in-depth look then let me know. Cheers
Love ya! Started the game a few days ago. What do u recommend manufacturing in the beginning? Btw cool vid but ofc a little too far in the future for me :D
How did you find the 103.5% I'm sorry I'm confused. Can you explain
Big hairy subject. I think many people sell at a loss or don't consider their own time getting the resources.
OMG thank you so much i was waiting for this video. Amazing video as usual cheers.
Very useful video. Well explained. You come unstuck when you claim the market value of the HML II is 1M when those are speculative sell orders. The true value is what someone is willing to pay, which is your 902K figure, when your buy order was entered. Don't make the mistake of looking at a sell order price and assuming you can get that, as you are only guaranteed to be able to sell at an Immediate buy price, which is oftentimes (much) less.
This was helpful to understand all of the ins and outs. I’m surprised that the chance of creating a tech 2 copy is so low.
Hey John, 46-49% is really high! This can be increased with decrytors but at a cost. I will cover this in a future video. In the past invention was much more hassle. Over the years CCP has slowly given invention a leg up to stop people complaining about T2 BPO's.
So THATS why tech 2 stuff cost an arm and a leg. Jokes aside, great explanation and video mate. You earned a sub from me. Cheers
Awesome, thank you!
You cover the basics quite extensively. For a new player trying to get into manufacturing it's helpful. As you demonstrated though doesn't look profitable. So why do all these people bother? This is what some of us want to know. Part of it i guess has to do with buying orders and also doing the process from start to finish. You nailed it though when you said that it's a nightmare. Please follow up on this with the ways on how it can be profitable. Thank you for the time you take to create this content. Keep up the good work!
I approach ALL manufacturing from the lens of self-sufficiency rather than mass profit. I also have my own mini-game based on the Activity Tracker. I have been researching for a few years now, and am steadily growing my activity tree from creating the occasional Tech2 ammunition batch to making Sleipnirs and Mastodons (Yes I am Minmatar). I am currently researching a Tempest BPC with the hope of making my own Vargur......... Research is fun for me- I am pretty sure I am still running net negative over the years, but all I am looking for is sustainable fun......I just want to make enough to fund my next industry milestone. After the Vargur (hopefully) I will be looking to get an Athanor (Upwell structure) and find a good place to do a little Moon Mining.
I have like 0% to do with Industry in EVE, only pve and pvp.
Yet, your videos are real interesting. Love it :)
Might wanna check your spelling of "Manufacturing" in the thumbnail though.
cool. Been playing just over a month and have just got my first PI set up, made some construction blocks, and also now have a character in a position to start looking at T2 stuff so this was incredibly handy and just about the right amount of basic for an idiot like me ;~)
Great video
My problem is I'm getting a warning of "Activity Not Supported at this Facility". What do I do?
T2 stuff can be a serious pain in the butt, especially if you get involved into the "entire" manufacturing process.
It is much easier if you have the support of a corporation, otherwise, you might find yourself overwhelmed unless you approach it from the "eat the elephant" concept.
Cheers.
Great video thanks for sharing! Do you also have a skill plan to share for training?
Rejected child.. Thank you for this very informative Vid. I was looking at T2 large ammo for personal use..
What’s the best way to determine what is needed and how to buy the lowest level material, react them and then use that to build the parts and the build the end item?
Heh, and at the end you describe it as a “right nightmare” lol
I do this with small ships. Only thing is I have no way to get the mats for the ships cheaply.
Hi there, are there any restrictions on what structures and what security system you can use to invent?
How do you figure out prices for selling your t2 BPC via contract?
do you mine your ore or use buy orders which seem to take a while, if i were to mine then do you consider reprocessing to be that better way to go?
Learned something new today! Hovering over the the success probability percentage shows you the necessary skills and the level you are at. Is there anyway to see the affect on the probability as you increase your skills?
Hey Steve, not that im aware I use external sites to check like eve-industry.org/calc/
i realize this is an old video with low chances of a reply - but when working the % chance of success as a cost modifier, why did you add 103.5%?
If you craft it, with max skills, in 0.0 with pos... Still at ~0 of Jita Market.
Is there something i don't get?
decryptors weren't mentioned? I can't get out of using these which blow the budget for many items. Now to try and figure out how you are at 10 science jobs while I'm stuck at 1 lol
I believe the skills you want to look into are Labratory Operation and Advanced Labratory Operation.
If your science skills are too low to get success without decryptors then you will be incurring massive additional costs that gobble all of your profit. You would be better off waiting a bit with invention until your science skills catch up.
Do you lose BPO if you make a copy?
No, when you have the BPO and it’s fully researched to 20/10 it’ll stay when you make the copy’s, so you can make 1000 copy’s and it won’t go away
Only the BPC go away after the amount of runs you did for them, for an example you did 500 runs on a middle BPC than after the 500 runs it’ll go away, now for the BPO if you did 4995 runs and finished it, it won’t go away, you’ll still have it
Think of it as leasing a car to financing a car. Leasing a car, you have it for a couple of years and you give it back and get a better one. You finance a car, you have it and pay it off and it’s still yours. BPC is leasing and BPO is Financing
Nine jumps to Amarr from Jita. How quaint.
It can be ok income, just make sure and research (don't trust the est numbers) what it's cost and your profit will be.
I also suggest not doing so many, I like a 1 / 10 and run those. I only play 1 toon, so keeping spots open for orders makes a difference, with all science trained to 4 (min) depending on the item you will get ave of 4 out of 10 to 6 out of 10. each of those 1 is 10 runs (unless ships) so can keep 1 toon busy. If ammo mining crystals always sell good, the mega miners go thru them, set sales near .5 systems as believe it or not there lazy. Stay out of market hubs unless a quick sale, to much competition you don't get isk back when you drop the price. Always use player owned stations with lowest tax rate. CCP is killing us with the taxes.
Hey Kal, yea I must say the tax right now is a killer makes manufacturing and selling much more painful than it once was.
Unless you can acquire the majority of the T2 components yourself instead of buying them on market, T2 manufacturing is dead in the water.
You're doing it wrong then. Im making a decent amount most days from it and I pretty much just buy everything I need straight from the market.
@@strange_Net Alright then, Im all ears, name ingame: Goe Rilla