An Honest Review of Quaver

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
  • Quaver is a fast-growing 4k/7k game at the moment. With over 50k members, they've shown themselves that they can compete rather well in the mania market, but did the game live up to the hype that players have been giving it before its official release on Steam?
    Also, I didn't mention Multiplayer at all because there were virtually no rooms I could play in whenever I checked rip.
    Edit: They nerfed LN's the day I released this video to patrons so fuck me, I guess lmao.
    Shoutouts to April for helping me out w/ this vid too.
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  • @EtienneYT
    @EtienneYT  4 ปีที่แล้ว +716

    They nerfed LN's the same day I released this video to patrons are you serious lmao. Main point still stands tho.

    • @winterispretty6464
      @winterispretty6464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      The okay hit is 2x worse than a miss btw
      A miss is -50% of a note and an okay hit is -100% of a note

    • @zero-gi6gp
      @zero-gi6gp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@winterispretty6464 wow that sounds like an interesting anti-spam mechanic :o. not sure what top players have to say but I do like hearing notes unplayed in section parts people can't play rather than offbeat keymash. not sure what it entails for dumpcharts though.

    • @hinepare_
      @hinepare_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hi winter you beat my ass in an o!m multiplayer lobby

    • @winterispretty6464
      @winterispretty6464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hinepare_ bbbbbbb

    • @skyedafloof
      @skyedafloof 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you heard of Malody?

  • @violation07
    @violation07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    I like the 'detect maps from other games' option

    • @verlatenn
      @verlatenn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yo what thats the most likes i got on an other account lmao
      thx

    • @bobbhobbit
      @bobbhobbit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@verlatenn Why does your other account have different grammar than you?

    • @verlatenn
      @verlatenn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bobbhobbit it doesnt

    • @IDGs_space
      @IDGs_space 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@verlatenn just comment on the other account confirming it

    • @koshkamatew
      @koshkamatew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@IDGs_space debate over a dump 100 like comment, the movie

  • @fredtrentini6791
    @fredtrentini6791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +739

    Me actually believing it was a video about the osu! map quaver :thinking:

    • @xefrac
      @xefrac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If only

    • @damplamp
      @damplamp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      would be very easy 10/10 (only if sotarks mapset)

    • @rida9639
      @rida9639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol same

    • @gustavowr9367
      @gustavowr9367 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @user-je4rh6bb6z
      @user-je4rh6bb6z 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

  • @brug_bridge
    @brug_bridge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    Tbh for me, it takes the easiness of use of osu mania and combines it with all the good features etterna has which makes it my current choice of the 3, and I'm able to import everything from etterna and osu mania to play on one engine with ease

    • @fentanyl625
      @fentanyl625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      not all of the good features that etterna has but ye

    • @SilverBullet27188
      @SilverBullet27188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      This, all of this. The user friendliness of Etterna needs a lot of help. It really isn't a boon for your game if I have to dig through release notes to find how to use the new features added to the game this release. I literally never did understand how practice mode worked until I asked a dev. While yes the map selection is garbage and the difficulty system even more so, it is at least promising to see the devs actively working on it rather than sitting back and watching the garbage fire burn hotter like o!m.

    • @bananya6020
      @bananya6020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SilverBullet27188 literally the o!m, o!ctb and o!t is all basically community maintained and that's a bit difficult when the game is closed source

    • @senya6095
      @senya6095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@SilverBullet27188 How is the difficulty system for Etterna garbage? To me at least, it seems far better than anything else in any other game I've seen.

    • @ChronicalV
      @ChronicalV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@senya6095 theyre talking about quaver

  • @Slug_ssbm
    @Slug_ssbm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    12:54 it’s by far the most beginner friendly rhythm game (with the possible exception of fnf just for it’s aesthetic). Adding songs is a simple as clicking on a chart that you like, and adding skins is as simple as subscribing to one you like on the steam workshop. Having everything there for you to download from the game rather than downloading them from an external website allows for people who have never played a rhythm game before to just jump right in and start playing (I mean all 4K rhythm games technically can, but Quaver’s ease of use for downloading songs allows for more immediate song choices). Honestly I feel like as Quaver’s community grows, the quality of the both the charts and the skins will grow along with it.

    • @Slug_ssbm
      @Slug_ssbm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I personally started getting into rhythm games around 6 months ago, and I started with Quaver, and as soon as I got it downloaded I was playing my first song within a couple minutes. After deciding to get a skin I looked through the steam workshop, found one I liked, subscribed to it and was instantly able to play with it. I decided to find other easy charts to play so I looked at the maps section, so a couple that I liked, clicked on them to download, and was instantly able to play them all within a couple of minutes. I decided to try Osu! and it took me nearly 30 minutes trying to figure everything out, getting a skin installed, and finding which charts could even be played in mania, than which charts are played in 4K, than find one that wasn’t brutally difficult for my skill level at the time. I ended up only really being able to play 2 songs that met those conditions (I wasn’t very good at the time) and while I was trying to find more songs online to download, I got really confused at how the search system worked as I couldn’t find an option to have it only show 4K games. And I didn’t even bother trying Eterna as it just looked way too confusing and I heard that it really wasn’t beginner friendly.

    • @Slug_ssbm
      @Slug_ssbm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And honestly I haven’t tried Stepmania yet, but I don’t really see a need to right now. I have almost 100 hours in Quaver, and I have a few FNF mods that I really enjoy playing as well, so I don’t really see myself needing to play anything else right now, but maybe as I get better I’ll give different ones a try.

    • @JTS-Games
      @JTS-Games 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is also the reason for me, I also downloaded etterna, but kinda hated it because overall its not user-friendly, ruining the fun for me. Quaver on the other hand is easy to understand and you can get going in minutes.

  • @grrr-ou9oc
    @grrr-ou9oc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Quaver makes it much easier to use on GNU Linux. Publishing the game on steam gives it almost perfect compatibility on launch. I found myself stuck between Windows with Osu, or Linux without it. A steam release of a mania game is JUST what i needed, and lets me use the OS i love.

    • @hecko-yes
      @hecko-yes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      super late but osu!lazer is available on linux as an appimage, although it doesn't submit to leaderboards yet since it's in beta

    • @choke-
      @choke- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can play osu on linux, thepoon wrote a very nice guide on fixing audio latency as well awhile ago

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      etterna is 1. in the AUR and 2. able to be compiled from source. I'm an Arch user so installing Etterna was fine for me.

    • @harmonicposting
      @harmonicposting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@choke- DON'T use poons guide its outdated and new winetricks is way better now
      just install from lutris and then switch the runner to the current "lutris-6.x" and done

  • @chimp9465
    @chimp9465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    gonna be honest, quaver players can't chart good jumpstream lol, the JS meta in quaver is literally "inward rolly semi-manip JS"

    • @RawrBag
      @RawrBag 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly this.

    • @zero-gi6gp
      @zero-gi6gp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chimp9465 taking a glance at the charts, i wouldn't be surprised if this really were the case. (stepmania is almost 20 wow :oo)

    • @dylanwebster2656
      @dylanwebster2656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      As an Osu Standard player, I had an aneurism reading this

    • @duccline
      @duccline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dylanwebster2656 same

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i literally installed quaver, played like 7 charts at my skill level and went "nope" shits mapped weird. I'm sticking to Etterna. That and there's no hallway in Quaver.

  • @mikelandey
    @mikelandey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    I’ve been really enjoying this game for the last few months however I find searching for a specific song is literally impossible.

    • @OddOneRogue
      @OddOneRogue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      EXACTLY

    • @lilywertee
      @lilywertee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      you can import osu! maps into quaver

    • @ghythmramer2515
      @ghythmramer2515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do i download the game

    • @mikelandey
      @mikelandey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ghythmramer2515 on steam

    • @ghythmramer2515
      @ghythmramer2515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mikelandey ty, the game is very good

  • @Akshuls
    @Akshuls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    There is workshop support now, so skins are EVERYWHERE.

  • @baguette5521
    @baguette5521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    quaver is the first rhythm game i ever tried and it actually made me alot better at rhythm games

  • @Faulheit
    @Faulheit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    2:40 wait youre telling me i can play giraffes giraffes songs? im sold

    • @ethana2359
      @ethana2359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      skipped me straight into an ad

  • @KatouMegumiosu
    @KatouMegumiosu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Usually o!m players migrate to quaver, take this in mind.

    • @triiodide7762
      @triiodide7762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no they go to etterna don't they?

    • @Tempyseemo
      @Tempyseemo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @Oliver Ridderstolpe Hello, I'm a osu!mania player who migrated to Quaver and have 583 hours on the game, (Tempy #56) I just thought that transferring to Quaver as a o!m player would be easier to transferring to Etterna due to it's simpler look and how much setup there is compared to the two games.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't have any qualms since the game is open source and works on Linux. osu!lazer is open source but you still can't earn pp.

    • @touhoulinuxfan8399
      @touhoulinuxfan8399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@triiodide7762etterna got it's base from stepmania, and I've played etterna and quaver, and I easily prefer quaver over etterna, etterna ui's it's just bad, and it was pretty like stepmania, which I don't like alot.

    • @zukio6088
      @zukio6088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@triiodide7762 i tried, but etterna is so hard to set up, i still havent been able to do it, and I end up coming back to o!mania after a while. just downloaded quaver tho

  • @m2kopter840
    @m2kopter840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I think the feature to import maps from other games (osu mania, etterna) save this game. The ranked maps are just really bad

  • @Semor-bn1lh
    @Semor-bn1lh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dang I didn't realize how much the game has changed until I came and watched this. A bunch of the quality of life stuff has been increased, for example it now has map packs.

  • @theaverageplayer1656
    @theaverageplayer1656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I just play quaver for the speed rates for 7k, taking out SVs and playing 7k up scroll which so far, I can only do in o!m. I can import all of the maps from o!m & etterna into quaver anyways so I have a lot of maps to play with. Also what I dislike about o!m is that a lot of the maps have diverse HP & OD drains, taking away the feelings of accomplishment from them, or fooling me into believing my skill is better than the usual, because I could mash my way through them, or easily acc them because they have absurdly low OD.

    • @user-mv1yq2ko3p
      @user-mv1yq2ko3p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree hp and/or od are a problem with converted maps from other games to osu!mania. They often have default values of 5 or ridiculously low/high values because noone took care of them. If you play maps from decent mappers that mapped specifically for osu!mania I don't think you will run into this problem. Personally I don't look at these values because you can play a map and play it again after a while to get a better picture if you're getting good or not
      Not even gonna say a word against the speed rate mod. That's what any rhythm game needs and I'd definitely try quaver out just because of that

    • @jacintfodor1296
      @jacintfodor1296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      marvellous [rainbow perfect] had the same judgement window If you went for rainbows OD did not affect you.

    • @Male_Parent
      @Male_Parent 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacintfodor1296 True, OD only matters for PA.

  • @livium1297
    @livium1297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I’m assuming that the mapset in quaver is so limited because it’s a new game, which hasn’t had time to develop its own style.

    • @ampersand64
      @ampersand64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      let's hope so

    • @winterispretty6464
      @winterispretty6464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is a large mixture of things because they rank a lot more because of osu being so limiting and only accepts a very very few ways of mapping

    • @DJK1RA
      @DJK1RA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bruh there are things like negative sv and such but that hasn't really been utilized and pretty much all the first maps I downloaded on there are from osu converted like... idk man

    • @ragnarokvii
      @ragnarokvii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s been around for 2-3 years, but it was in closed alpha

  • @jam860
    @jam860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I'm no expert on going, but Let's.

  • @riunosk
    @riunosk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    might as well call this game luigiquaver from all his ranked stuff there

  • @Golden-jv2uo
    @Golden-jv2uo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    12:50 - I don't know about the execution (because i haven't played quaver yet), but i believe the intention was good. I get etterna is better balanced than osu in terms of gameplay or whatever, but etterna is sooo unwelcomming to new players or players that want to transition from osu, i tried to move to etterna multiple times but i just couldn't get myself to. Also, in osu you can much more easily interact with other people than in etterna. So making a game that combines these two games into one, in paper, is a really good idea, and could potentially unite the mania community into that game alone, so imo that's why it exist in the first place

    • @slayarch2217
      @slayarch2217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, but its undershooting by a longshot, like he said in the video

  • @positive.feedback.loop1
    @positive.feedback.loop1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    i feel like i need a degree to navigate through etterna menus but wanted to go away from osumania so quaver it is

    • @vens1337
      @vens1337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here, I'll probably be playing this over o!m and definitely over etterna.

    • @EtienneYT
      @EtienneYT  4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Everything is quite literally in front of you in Etterna. The only reason it seems more complicated is because it gives you more things to customize to specifically make the game more comfortable for you. Everything in both the menu and song options is also defined on everything you highlight.

    • @nikkkola99
      @nikkkola99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If you prefer playing inferior vsrgs just because you don't want to put the slightest amount of effort into understanding a new game, go right ahead.

    • @azael2078
      @azael2078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@nikkkola99 why do you have to be such a dick to people.

    • @icemocha6703
      @icemocha6703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@nikkkola99 comments like these are the ones that make people avoid the etterna community lmao

  • @troyarmyfake
    @troyarmyfake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As of December 30th, 2021, the Quaver difficulty system is still sometimes inconsistent. It will give jumptrills, rolls, half-rolls, other burst patterns and vibro patterns a low difficulty if extended for around at least 3 seconds. Beatmaps from osu such as isogu (jumptrill map) and dien may xanh (vibro map) are given very incorrect difficulties and according to quaver, I can't even describe the dien may xanh error. For some reason, the difficulty algorithm thinks the 135 bpm vibro is harder than a 210 bpm vibro, which is very wrong. Additionally, a inhuman vibro section of a map would be given a low difficulty, lowering the difficulty of the chart.
    On the other hand, I found that streams with a lot of trills integrated into them are given a much higher difficulty than what they should be.
    I don't know about any other patterns.
    However, Quaver gives the ability to port over osu!mania and etterna/stepmania beatmaps, which I find to be a great addition.

    • @troyarmyfake
      @troyarmyfake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      sorry for being a nerd

  • @pressandplayv8282
    @pressandplayv8282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i just like the fact that its less crowded than mania, and that i can have completely custom judjment windows and that the user info is completely understandable. it runs great on mac. i guess its just that this game was my first ever rythm game, and i feel very at heart, sorry if this is a rant. I love your content and i respect your statement, and i beleive it is valid. Thank you.

  • @notsyniak
    @notsyniak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When creating a skin on Quaver there aren't many options to adjust the skins parameters based on the users settings. They have different settings and positions for 4k and 7k and thats about it. When it comes to changing the location of the note receptor or things like the score, there aren't any options to automatically change based on down/up scroll or resolution and stuff like that. This leads to skins being broken when the one using them is playing on different settings than the one who made them. This can sort of be fixed if the user manually changes all the settings for the skin but doing so is far from easy. So the guy at 6:06 isn't at fault.

  • @KingOfAceZ1
    @KingOfAceZ1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I think the point of quaver is to be a dedicated mania game with a polished UI like osu's. As is stands, osu!mania to me feels like absolute trash to play, but I did come to mania from osu!standard, so i'm used to having a good UI from osu. I've ultimately settled on etterna because etternas gameplay is superior, but I'll admit that I feel like etternas UI is ugly and kind of a PITA to use. I guess once you've gotten over the learning curve it's fine, but I feel like I could not convince any of my friends to play etterna because of how weird/overly functional the UX is. They might try osu, but osu's 4k is kind of garbage imo. I think quaver is for all of those people who i described, which might be a larger group than you might think.
    I'm going to stick with etterna for now but I'm certainly curious about this games future. I think it has potential to improve and to become the best of both worlds.

    • @Ellie_2810
      @Ellie_2810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      GenoClysm another thing, etterna just doesn’t seem to download on some macs

    • @denny141196
      @denny141196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about mania feels like trash? I’ve only tried mania so I don’t know any better, but it feels fine to me

    • @xylf.1972
      @xylf.1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@denny141196 imo osu!mania beatmaps are garbage. They feel boring and uninspired. Finding a great beatmap is just hard. While etterna's beatmaps are just better. Not perfect but better. (I also hate the o!m release feature)

    • @ayyansea2138
      @ayyansea2138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xylf.1972 mad cuz bad

    • @LukeTCC
      @LukeTCC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yup, you hit the nail on the head for me. thats the exact reason i play quaver

  • @Adrig3
    @Adrig3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Nice vid as always, dude. Also, can't wait for the RoBeats one! :D

    • @melodywawichi802
      @melodywawichi802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Adrig3 have fun dealing with a recent gear update that divides the players even more

    • @timet0rekt
      @timet0rekt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Melody Wawichi context? havent played robeats in years

    • @Adrig3
      @Adrig3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@melodywawichi802 i haven't played robeats, do you mean that they even broke more the game?

    • @melodywawichi802
      @melodywawichi802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Adrig3 how does 20 million points on a diff 34 sound?

    • @Adrig3
      @Adrig3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@melodywawichi802 sounds broken.

  • @sebassebas8022
    @sebassebas8022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tbh yeah I agree with everything you stated, though I have to admit Quaver has a lot of potential to be on par with Osu and Etterna, they just have to fix all the problems they have currently (mainly the map set, some maps also have really off difficulty rates) which makes it even more frustrating finding maps at your level. I wish the best of luck to Quaver though

  • @nosteaI
    @nosteaI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    on the mapping side, i think its cause 99% of the ranked osu!mania mappers also put their maps onto quaver, which just transfers the problem of overly generic and uninspired maps/songs from osu to quaver as well
    tl;dr blame osu lol

  • @GamingSednaStyle
    @GamingSednaStyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm surprised that, for a channel that's shown to showcase so many different rhythm games, you were so blind in this review. You rated this game's worth from strictly a 4k perspective, practically rating the only half of the game that you care about, and then to end this video with "Why does this game exist?" is just idiotic. I understand that since 4k can use Etterna, you can critique it harshly in comparison. All 7k players have is osu!mania, you could always play lunatic rave or o2jam if you can make these games made in the 2000s work on your computer and if you learn the entirety of the korean language to be able to navigate the menu. Another pointer is if you want to be mainly a 7k player in osu!mania, you will have a significantly harder time ranking up through the leaderboard. 7k will only help you at the top of the rankings. Having separate leaderboards gives 7k players a much better perspective on how much their improving. Another thing you didn't address is the fact that you can access maps downloader through Etterna and osu!mania. The ranked section may be faulty but being able to port over maps is a giant positive that you completely ignored. The biggest thing 7k players get from Quaver is rate mods. Add being able to randomize, make the map inverse, and make the map full long notes. All of these modifiers are incredible tools to help 7k players get better at the game, and no other easy-to-obtain-and-also-in-english game can compare. Quaver also has modifiers such as no sv and no long notes that just give freedom to the player.
    What I'm trying to say is Quaver allows a 7k player to do an incredible amount more than alternatives. Personally, I'm hurt and disappointed that 7k, for some reason, you refuse to acknowledge.

    • @DJK1RA
      @DJK1RA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      dude it's his opinion as a 4k player, why would he adress 7k if he isn't even playing it...
      and wow quaver is literaly o!m + etterna (since the devs come from these games... I think) what else is there to say? I don't have anything against quaver players it's just a good alternative and nothing more.

    • @DJK1RA
      @DJK1RA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have been playing 4 to 9k for quite a while now, I have tested quaver myself but I just don't see the appeal since it's just another chart "emulator"

    • @EtienneYT
      @EtienneYT  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The things you're pointing out are some of the most basic functions that should be in a rhythm game to begin with. Why would I even bother mentioning those? Mentioning 7k would have barely made a difference, as my principles pretty much still apply to 7k maps after looking at them. I also spent a good majority of the video talking about the game itself and only touched on the maps for the last few minutes so... idk where you're getting this "4k perspective" from when I talked about the game itself for about 80% of the video.

    • @Kazyek
      @Kazyek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@EtienneYT You say that you don't see why this game have to exist when we have Etterna Online and Osu!mania. Etterna don't even have 7K, and o!m ranking system combining both 4k and 7k is so broken that it's irrelevant for both game mode. Quaver become by default the only 7k game with online features that's worth playing at this point.
      Sadly, the point you made with LNs is even worse for 7k, and the stricter LN release timing makes 7k noodles quite awkward to play. On top of that, the leniency on "ghost input" allow you to just mash the 7 keys for doing hard 4-5-6 notes chords, making them trivial, thus weighted incorrectly. O!m have the same problem, but it's even worse in Quaver sadly :(
      Still, quaver, being new and still tweaked / updated with ranked play in mind, have the option of improving on that in a near future. From what we've seen over the year, such critical and needed improvements won't ever make it in o!m.

    • @lonelyplanet120
      @lonelyplanet120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kazyek let's hope the real answer of why quaver needs to exist is that developers would actually listen to criticism and improvement rather than osu!mania devs UwU since this video can help out tweak the Quaver seen to become better on what is lacking

  • @cirava
    @cirava 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As somebody who casually started playing 4K in o!m, this game looks very attractive to me. I’ll probably switch over since finding songs I can play will be way easier.

    • @nivdy
      @nivdy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. Definitely the more aesthetically appreciated game. Etterna has superior gameplay, but I def see people going to the others because of their aesthetic.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nivdy osu!mania SUCKS for finding beatmaps I just realized holy shit. it takes a custom website to narrow down what difficulty or even amount of KEYS you want in a map

    • @nivdy
      @nivdy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Cobalt985 it is better if you're a supporter, because supporters get built in map downloading, but imo it's not as map packs

    • @0bread286
      @0bread286 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nivdy Or you can use laser and not need supporter, that's what I do. Plus the menus look even nicer

    • @nivdy
      @nivdy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@0bread286 Lazer is harder on low end PCs, it lags mine :(

  • @account-pd4fi
    @account-pd4fi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    honest review of quaver: good farm, my 4th 300pp

    • @Asr.-
      @Asr.- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      osu beatmap moment

  • @werdwerdus
    @werdwerdus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    i couldn't really see a reason not just to play etterna 🤷‍♂️

    • @fusy83
      @fusy83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Etterna's ui can be unnecessarily complicated and just annoying/shit to use

    • @ChronicalV
      @ChronicalV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Not beginner friendly. Everything about it screams technicality. It feels more like a command line or text based game than a visual based game because of how hard the UI to use if you're not used to it. That is a massive turn off to me. Probably the only reason I can see it being worse than every other vsrg. I personally can't use it because I just cannot get used to it. My noteskin is fine and I'm not getting performance issues, but something just feels wrong. My acc and MA is actually better on etterna than o!m but something just feels off. That and I don't like the songs as much on etterna

    • @-perge
      @-perge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The big thing for me is 7k. Before you were stuck with o!m or BMS, but here you get tons of features that seems essential to a good VSRG. 7k players moving from o!m to Quaver are blessed with rate mods, LN and SV conversion mods, custom judgements, snap colors, chart previews, and many other creature comforts.
      Quaver initially had a big plan for the competitive market. It seemed like they wanted to build a bustling platform to draw in awareness from outside the rhythm game community. And yeah... as absurd as it sounds, Quaver/Etterna becoming a colloquial "e-sport" would be a lot of fun. But I have no idea where that plan went, and it seems like there's more important things on the to-do list anyway.
      So for 4k... yeah just play Etterna. For 7k it's worth it. The community feels lifeless, but I'm optimistic for the future.

    • @Frozengrapecream
      @Frozengrapecream 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cause trying to use Etterna for 7k or LN is not really an option 😐

    • @cyanplaza5153
      @cyanplaza5153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@-perge I wouldn't consider the community "lifeless", but I'm a BMS player so lmao I'm used to the community being 30 english speakers total.

  • @greg4587
    @greg4587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the background music and the voiceover makes this feel like a nintendo direct

  • @winterispretty6464
    @winterispretty6464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the best thing they added was negative infinity and positive infinity SV

    • @koboss
      @koboss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Worst part of quaver is the sv

    • @BlackVelvett
      @BlackVelvett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@koboss best

  • @defaultdance4727
    @defaultdance4727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What i like about quaver is on how it's really easy to download maps and mods, instead of having to go to an external website to download and drag and drop it. Plus, there are unranked maps made by people who have it submitted on the website.
    It's the simplicity I love about it: where I don't have to search up something to see how to do it.

  • @some0ne_osu
    @some0ne_osu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quaver is the only game of this style that I like

  • @Rodrigolaw
    @Rodrigolaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    except for the fact that u can play in any rate, load instantly maps from osumania, colored notes mode, modify judgement, modify ingame skin, "there's no need to switch from osumania."
    Really dude? this game gets the best of osu!mania and etterna together, this review is really disappointing.

  • @troyzoya9140
    @troyzoya9140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm pretty new at rythm games, and Quaver beeing my first serious one was imo a good start, I'm still a wet piece of shit but I'm getting there

  • @degurashav.t1704
    @degurashav.t1704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video I was looking for a game like this other than osu mania to get started in this genre of games

  • @Loxu69
    @Loxu69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    th-cam.com/video/3s3Hp62wy2k/w-d-xo.html You have figured out how beat saber players feel
    (seriously they soft banned infant annihilator maps because of "oversaturation" despite the fact that almost 50% of the top 20 farm maps are just camellia)

  • @sonic176yt7
    @sonic176yt7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is probably the most accessible rhythm game out there tbh

  • @vvv331
    @vvv331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the offsync in Quaver is common thing if you convert a StepMania to Quaver, the average offset is 100ms, i dunno why does this happen

  • @Cadper-ty6ul
    @Cadper-ty6ul 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At least it's not filled with anime

  • @heeyitsfozzy
    @heeyitsfozzy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel quaver is a good starting point for somebody wanting to get into it to then move onto something like etterna

    • @jacintfodor2372
      @jacintfodor2372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't know It's so hard to find good charts in Ettern, while in quaver I just search for the elite mappers.

  • @droyal1994
    @droyal1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m interested in seeing you review Clone Hero.

    • @EtienneYT
      @EtienneYT  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Not a bad idea tbh lol

    • @droyal1994
      @droyal1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Etienne it would fit well with your content for sure and you would definitely have the most unbiased opinion on it I feel

  • @Michael-ws6ng
    @Michael-ws6ng 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like it because I'm a beginner, plus I want to have the in game time on my steam profile lol

  • @eontehblob5373
    @eontehblob5373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "even thought i would like other skins"
    *Me staring at the skins button when i downloaded it*

  • @Coppertine_
    @Coppertine_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you want to know something, Quaver was developed by ex-osu!std and osu!mania players who had expeience with private servers (Ripple for example). Most of the mappers of these mapsets were just osu!mania charters, same with the BN on the game. I think it would improve somewhat in the future.

    • @user-mv1yq2ko3p
      @user-mv1yq2ko3p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True. Swan and AiAe were community managers on ripple. Swan was playing mania (mostly vibro iirc because it's ranked there) and AiAe was a std guy. When I discovered they're making a game I joined their discord and their names were at the very top of userlist when they didn't really have a bigger team yet

    • @Coppertine_
      @Coppertine_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-mv1yq2ko3p I only noticed Swan as he was the sethost for the ripple mapping contest. I also noticed people like Yalterz (that auto+ guy) in the team as well..

  • @noneofyourbusiness9428
    @noneofyourbusiness9428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "most of the higher level ranked charts consist of chordjacks and chordsreams"
    Cry's in normal speed streams

  • @cutedesu9241
    @cutedesu9241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the game because it got rates and LN/Rice/SV mods. Stuff that i really miss in 7k and im tired of playing on some old ass emulators that crash 24/7 for games that had it before. Dont care about the rating/ranked stuff so im pretty biased

  • @fire5258
    @fire5258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was on a trip for 3 days and didn't play at all but still went up 20 spots for my country rank because all my high scores have less than 5% long notes because of the nerfs lmao

  • @aarondillon5986
    @aarondillon5986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ayyy love the Protest the Hero shirt!

  • @keppy1618
    @keppy1618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the main "purpose" of this game def feels like the general accessibility of having it on steam, while ppl can get a general feel for the 4k genre too

  • @lsswapsupra
    @lsswapsupra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    etternas base is confusing and hard to understand aswell as prioritizing jacks, osu mania feels off for people who come from other rythm games, and because quaver can load osz map files, get skins from workshop, easy to understand ui, amazing hit reg and fps, its a saving grace for people like me who hate osu mania with a burning passion but want that wide selection of songs.
    tldr; quaver is better at doing some very core things than other rythm games, and is easy to switch to

    • @taggerung_
      @taggerung_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      etterna does not prioritize jacks. jacks are infact underrated in the current implementation of the game.
      also quaver has fps based hit reg

  • @scarletosu4152
    @scarletosu4152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Personally, Quaver's ranked section is much more diverse than mania's. I've enjoyed more Quaver ranked content than mania ranked. Now there are a lot of gems' in mania's unranked section, and we don't really have that in Quaver I agree. I also really hate how 90% of the songs are the same shit in terms of music choice (camellia being insanely popular among charters). Me personally I just spend time mapping lesser known songs.
    In terms of diversity it's just as diverse as stepmania. Most of the content that I played on SM were stamina JS or chordjack. And when I'm watching SM streams, they don't play much different stuff.

    • @jacintfodor1296
      @jacintfodor1296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Camellia is popular for players as well.

    • @jacintfodor1296
      @jacintfodor1296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel likes the issue is generational gaps. Etterna is the oldest in the 3 with old chart styles and music diversity. Quaver has newer styles in both music choice and chart styles. For me Etterna maps are boring stuff really good for training, but boring, and quaver has the punch especialy PianoLuigi and LovelyN (mostly LNs). I love LNs btw and Lns in Etterna just bad because it doesnt matter where you lift uip the keys.
      Its the same effect O2Jam is really old totally different song choices and chart styles, and people who played O2Jam they like O2jam style the most.

  • @temma1612
    @temma1612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:20 hey its me

    • @taggerung_
      @taggerung_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats dude, youre famous!

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm a little confused as a casual osumania player, what's the point of something like quaver when osumania and stepmania/eternia have much larger communities and better support, while all share the same gameplay style/mechanics?

    • @sploob865
      @sploob865 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well its easier to download songs and downloading skins

    • @milkmelon5568
      @milkmelon5568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sploob865 and the ui's better

    • @gasternecross
      @gasternecross 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you cant download osumania and eternia on macs

    • @sploob865
      @sploob865 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To put it simply quaver is for convenience its easy to download

    • @Rose-ez7yn
      @Rose-ez7yn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gasternecross osu!lazer works

  • @jegfriedrice
    @jegfriedrice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't know if the timing is tighter or it's just so different to o!m but I gave up on quaver 3 days after release because it just feels so different. Might come back to it someday until osu! lazer releases

    • @iwaneco_139
      @iwaneco_139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      quaver standarad judge is more loose by a bit (OD 7 with more lenient marv window) and osu stable inherently has delay so it takes time to adjust to.

  • @GNUBernieSandersEliteGNUEmacsU
    @GNUBernieSandersEliteGNUEmacsU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this entire game couldve been an etterna theme

  • @chickenmcbiscuit318
    @chickenmcbiscuit318 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds you to take breaks.
    Me: can play full stamina maps for ours on end with no break.
    I don't know how my fingers still work

  • @Eryyy
    @Eryyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why Quaver isn't a rhythm game

    • @-perge
      @-perge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      > Rhythm games have music synced with player input
      > 0% of Quaver maps have acceptable offset
      > Quaver is not a rhythm game

    • @Asr.-
      @Asr.- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@-perge The biggest reason why Quaver is not a rhythm game is because its an osu beatmap👁️👄👁️

  • @Moni-qd6pj
    @Moni-qd6pj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we gotta remember its still in beta

  • @ChronicalV
    @ChronicalV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you ever post your opinions on osu mania in full somewhere?

  • @averageparasenjoyer
    @averageparasenjoyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quaver is osu mania for people who don't want to be seen playing osu

    • @Antanaxis
      @Antanaxis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no lmaooo

  • @zionxxv
    @zionxxv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone actually know how to login to quaver

  • @petey5009
    @petey5009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me personally, coming from an osu! mania player I mostly play Quaver due to the ability to easily import osu and etterna maps with ease, and it has much better features than mania.

    • @slayarch2217
      @slayarch2217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you convertimg etterna maps?

  • @tbhcreature618
    @tbhcreature618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are so many skins now, and people make their own.

  • @Ledbottom86
    @Ledbottom86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    honestly I looked this game up and watched your video and you just put me onto a whole community I knew nothing about.

  • @emmettlee5037
    @emmettlee5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bad judgements not counting as combo breakers isnt really too much of an issue considering how the game gives out points based more on accuracy than combos

  • @fijisqueejie7954
    @fijisqueejie7954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what mic do you have? It sounds really good!

  • @crookycumbles
    @crookycumbles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think its main selling point is some of the qol stuff, but I don't think there is enough to justify the other issues.

  • @elyntapalgo7019
    @elyntapalgo7019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do I even make a Quaver account? I just downloaded the game.

    • @Rose-ez7yn
      @Rose-ez7yn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Go to the top right

  • @floorshame
    @floorshame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    whenever i try to play it it just starts bugging out.

  • @Tupidix
    @Tupidix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:01 MOM GET THE CAMERA UwU

    • @theaverageplayer1656
      @theaverageplayer1656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tupidix why do ur videos have so many dislikes lol. Good gameplay imo.

    • @Tupidix
      @Tupidix 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theaverageplayer1656 because my nephew is called Tupidix_youtube on PS4 and plays Fortnite xD. But thanks really appreciated

  • @TheSaxRunner05
    @TheSaxRunner05 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You said you don’t really care for the maps, how would compare this game’s stepping/mapping with those accepted into FFR?

    • @Ellie_2810
      @Ellie_2810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheSaxRunner05 ffr is heavily reliant on jacky files ngl

  • @themanwiththepan
    @themanwiththepan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Quaver is just a better om
    Change my mind

    • @nx4704
      @nx4704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Etterna is just a better om and Quaver
      Change my mind

    • @vanillakeksik
      @vanillakeksik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They are just games
      Change my mind

  • @nahnvm8493
    @nahnvm8493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You look like coraline’s dad

  • @PakieVSRG
    @PakieVSRG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wish there was a option to display which keys on the kb relate to the gameplay 24/7 instead of just being a few seconds because i really dont wanna bust out my kb prompts pack to make a skin that's literally just well, kb prompts

  • @cold4022
    @cold4022 ปีที่แล้ว

    my main problem with 4k rhythm games is that i cant sightread anything like half of the time i everytime press the wrong note and dont know whats going on

  • @DraganMej
    @DraganMej 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why does it exist? Because finally new players like me can enjoy a vsrg without looking for a youtube video on "how to set-up". I can press play, and guess what, I play the game.
    I really do have a great time playing this rhythm game, getting into this community is a cool thing for me, and I'm still learning. (Wouldn't have done it, if Quaver didn't exist)
    Much love to you all!

    • @user-mv1yq2ko3p
      @user-mv1yq2ko3p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You have a really good point. I remember setting up stepmania/etterna and I felt so dumb and frustrated. How settings can be so unintuitive...

    • @koboss
      @koboss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t understand what seems so complex to everyone about etterna, customizing your skin/playfield is incredibly simple in comparison to using a skin.ini folder

    • @DraganMej
      @DraganMej 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well, we are not all elite members of the genre, I, for exemple, started playing 3 weeks ago Quaver, I didn't need any video to understand ultra basic stuff, but when I tried to play Etterna I got overwhelmed by the amount of information presented, I would rather play the game to see if I like it, before installing 17 song packs, 33 skin packs, and watch a total of 3 hours of tutorials.
      My point is, Quaver is amazing in being a new-player friendly, the points in the video stand, but the fact that the experience feels better for me is enough to get me playing.
      Of course, maybe I will switch to Etterna one day, who knows and who actually cares, I know that Quaver got me into the genre, not Etterna or Osu!Mania.

    • @user-mv1yq2ko3p
      @user-mv1yq2ko3p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@koboss ​well to me skin.ini config file doesn't seem to be any complicated and I've helped people I talk to with it. The most popular request is moving the field to the center of the screen which is not hard to do at all. skin.ini has a dedicated wiki page that explains everything including skin files themselves what they are for etc. Some years ago when I tried to play an alternative for osu!mania I couldn't find any proper guide on all the settings in order to make the game look and work how I want. To me it seems like etterna is a better stepmania yet settings are still not beginner friendly. But hey maybe we're all just dumb.. The point still stands the same that it's not intuitive at all

    • @zukio6088
      @zukio6088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah as an osu mania player I still haven't figured out Etterna (I'm }{ close to joining the Discord and enslaving some poor little Etterna player into helping me set it up, just haven't found the time yet) And as easy and simple as osu mania looks, everytime I try to introduce my friends into it I realize just how complicated everything actually is and how much information people are bombarded with at once which is definitely overwhelming.

  • @hydrogencitrus
    @hydrogencitrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dont understand a word of what this man is saying but i think i agree

  • @sovulken
    @sovulken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please, note it is the only VSRG (except original stepmania) availible on Linux.

    • @user-lz3gm2fq8e
      @user-lz3gm2fq8e 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This isn't true. I can play both Etterna and Osu Lazer on Linux natively.

  • @JHVOGamers
    @JHVOGamers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to try this game out, because it looks cool. But it keeps freezing in Manjaro, both in Gnome and XFCE, so I think that's a no. I was only able to complete one map (and got instantly to Brazil's top 600 lol).

  • @kxtbit
    @kxtbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:02 IMO i think Good and Okay judgements should give a combo, because even if they are not great, they still are called "good" and "okay", it doesn't make sense to me that if you're hitting the notes "good" you'll still get a combo break - same thing with "okay", okay is okay, is it not? why should i be punished for doing just okay? it would make sense to me if they were changed to be like "mediocre" or "bad" or something like that, but if they're called good and okay i think it makes perfect sense to not be a combo break - just my opinion though.

    • @pricklypeen7639
      @pricklypeen7639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you still hit the note, which means you keep combo. you shouldn't lose combo unless you miss imo.

    • @kxtbit
      @kxtbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pricklypeen7639 same here

  • @egas00
    @egas00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is LN mod for 7K, and it can use custom judgement
    it's like better v2 score from osu!mania + o2jam

  • @omgdisfunny4852
    @omgdisfunny4852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its ok, its also too easy to abuse the X speed for easy rankings, got top 100 within a few hours using it

  • @Kevroa1
    @Kevroa1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Looks great but it runs like dogshit on my macbook air whereas etterna runs perfectly fine so it isn't even an option I can consider lol

    • @feiks420
      @feiks420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      you can run etterna on everything, literally.

    • @azael2078
      @azael2078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@feiks420 this is false. on my laptop i got consistent lag spikes and accuracy was impossible. it was like a spike every few seconds.
      my laptop is i5 7200u with intergrated graphics.

    • @azael2078
      @azael2078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      (8gb ram)

    • @championabovechampions5550
      @championabovechampions5550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's not like this game runs like dogshit, it's like your macbook is dogshit. buy yourself good pc, and everything will run perfectly. it's not a problem of devs, that you are playing on a dogshit LOL.

    • @azael2078
      @azael2078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@championabovechampions5550 "runs on everything"
      my laptop can handle osu which people literally say is harder to run.
      i get no lag spikes on osu but all the time on etterna

  • @Ellie_2810
    @Ellie_2810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quaver has some nice features

  • @kkslicez
    @kkslicez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love how his quaver account name is CarlyRaeJepsen

  • @storkr
    @storkr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i personally really like quaver

    • @nokomiisweirdasf
      @nokomiisweirdasf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      me to i love the costumation in speed osu mania doesnt offer that i also love how its way easier to recolor skins i had the nimbus skin and recolored it white within a few nights i got to rank 6k in my contry

  • @Albert-vs4we
    @Albert-vs4we 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clearium skin is very good bar skin

  • @jermm2183
    @jermm2183 ปีที่แล้ว

    my opinion is that it has the best UI and "looks" (smoothness, customizability, offset adjustment accuracy charts, etc.) but is held back by lack of good maps and and lack of players compared to osu!mania, etterna, stepmania, etc.
    I use this game 99% of the time for 4k/7k because of the fact it's friendly on linux. You can get other games through things like lutris and (if you have a very good computer) wine. Running with proton is smooth performance and I don't need to worry as I don't play for pp so I can simply import any maps from other rhythm games to play. Overall I would it's a large upgrade from osu!mania, a slight one from etterna, but lacks players and good maps so if you play for pp then I don't recommend this game as you're going to need to import all the maps from other games yourself in order to find good maps

  • @mikael1891
    @mikael1891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tfw can't move the receptors up or down :(

    • @koboss
      @koboss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Go into the skin.ini folder

  • @burnipturnip
    @burnipturnip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was wondering if you could upload your skin to the steam workshop it would be much appreciated

  • @Male_Parent
    @Male_Parent 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah the only reason I tried quaver was because it has custom timing windows, has rate changes, and supports 7k. I stopped playing it because I didn't feel like converting my mania skin to quaver. It'd probably be a really good accuracy trainer for 7k but I just continue to play mania. It doesn't stand out in 4k IMO because there's other games like etterna pretty much do the same thing as quaver. I guess quaver's UI is a lot more beginner friendly compared to etterna IMO.

  • @samjeremy7028
    @samjeremy7028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i use osu maps to play quaver LOL. However i found mania really good for practice because you need to hit perfectly to get hight accuracy not like in osu.

  • @fatewish6334
    @fatewish6334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thx you for this Video there are so much more infomation that I could not know its very helpfull video and good perspective of the game..Iam glad Iam not the only one who things this charts are just copied..Not map wise but Song wise..

  • @Aboxofpie
    @Aboxofpie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    u hit the button but the button dont work u get the perfect then u miss the two hit in north dakota how he do it?
    7.5/10
    need more clicky

  • @404waffles
    @404waffles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    quaver doesnt have enough 7k maps :(

    • @user-mv1yq2ko3p
      @user-mv1yq2ko3p 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The game is still new and I hope it will have more of them in the future because it's a big problem in osu as well. People just don't want to map 7k and map 4k instead because it's mainstream and more fame I guess

    • @404waffles
      @404waffles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-mv1yq2ko3p yeah 4k is more popular than 7k in general, and mapping 7k is harder than mapping 4k

    • @nakanoyuko
      @nakanoyuko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can load in all your maps from osu? you can also mass convert your o2jam maps from dm or other servers and convet bms files to osu then to quaver automatically

    • @404waffles
      @404waffles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nakanoyuko ooh i didnt know

  • @0bsesss
    @0bsesss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An Honest Review of DJMAX Respect V?

  • @herels
    @herels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They nerfed LNs