I think the red line is pretty much in the suburbs of Moscow these days. The blue line is now yellow and blue and kicking the shit out of the red line!
This video make one bad assessment. Polish military has 120 thousand man personel (actually trained one, not shitty conscripts) and they main job is to delay Russia, before reinforcements arrive. Most of US personel in Poland operate on advanced weapons like Patriots and Abrams. Despite what Trump babbling, Europe doesn't need defense. Those are systematic defense operations. Though tripwire argument is also true, they aren't expected to die.
@@fearlessfruge6445 NATO is not just Germany and France (or even US). Putin facepalmed forgetting that smaller nations actually hold collectively proportionally sizable power on West.
It appears shocking now, over 200 days into this war at how far west those lines are being drawn. If anyone think Russia could take and hold even the smallest amount of NATO territory then they haven’t been paying attention at all.
@@cultugarvealgarve7380 Air superiority is king as of right now, but you must maintain it. We have seen in recent conflicts that Russia isn't able to keep air superiority to the crushing capability it is supposed to have but NATO seems to. A single man with a MANPAD has become the fear of the russian plan. From war reports, it seems artillery is still the main player in battle and strategic deployment.
It is incredible to me how badly this video has aged. As recently as two months ago the author thought Russia had the capability to invade most of Eastern Europe. Not meaning to pick on him, most so called “expert” opinion seemed to think Russia really was that powerful.
Bruh was just about to say the same thing especially when he said those soldiers “don’t stand a chance”. Russian propaganda was that good. Had us believing they could take over Poland and Romania at the same time lol.
It seems everyone forgets that Poland and Romania also have troops. About 200k together. Not to mention that the other EU countries could react quickly as well and some have nuclear weapons.
No, you are wrong. It is important that you realize this. All Western countries have spent 30 years demilitarizing themselves. NATO has no ability at all to resist a Russian invasion. We are only lucky that Putin has no such intentions at all.
@@bjorntorlarsson Of course, considering how strong Russia is, such an economic powerhouse that would certainly resist without exports not starving. It happened in the past.
@@bjorntorlarsson You are so far from correct, it’s hilarious. Russia is a shadow of its former military might. The EU nations alone would tear Putin a new one, even before American forces arrive (late as always) to mop up.
@@Bob10009 1,000 French officers the other year wrote an open letter to Emanuelle macron (you know, he who is married with his 25 years older school teacher and who has a stepson who is older than himself), calling him a traitor for having abolished the last of the French army. Haven't you heard that the French army got totally beaten up by a gang of unarmed nomads in Mali last week, and fled in panic? Mali government has hired "The Wagner Group", Russian privateers, to fight for them instead. You shall see, and the jihadists are soon no more in Mali. Germany has no military at all. One of the two US soldiers there called their boy scouts "parasiting back packers". If you meet him, one of the two US soldiers that serve in Germany, ask him yourself what he thinks about the ability of the pretend-to-be German army. They have no navy and no air force either. How many armored divisions can the US air lift to Europe within the week they have until the Russians hit the Atlantic coast? And would they even try after they have detonated a nuke in the middle of the Atlantic? "Come on now", like the demented president says (while Putin plays ice hockey with his defense minister). Get real and accept the facts. The 1990s is over. Russia is the only great power in Europe. ALL European want to have it that way, else they wouldn't have deliberately created this situation during the last 30 years.
I wouldnt bark so loud. Russia is rich and has allies. They know their military equipment is subpar. There will be an upgrade. And the idea of forming an eastern NATO on the table. However, its not a westlike. NATO has no conquering state, US is more meddling than conquering. But Russia as China want to expand. Even when allied, at a certain point, they will fight.
And forgetting that the 3000 are additional, the US has 100 000 in europe, and all the other nato countries have soldiers to match Russia several times over.
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@@legolus3334 China and Russia are frienemies at best. Russia is desperately looking for support, and China is looking to challenge the US, but the two aren't looking to be allies.
Crazy how in 96 I was playing youth football with Russians from Moscow area in a thing called friendship through football. They came here. Usa. And we went there also. Was a different time for sure but I imagine alot of them guys are in Russian military as we're many of my friends. Crazy how diplomatic shit can kill a friendship and then have each other eventually on a battlefield 25 yrs later. Just has me thinking what's really right and morality.
@@DerDop yeah I believe that to a point. No doubt. Just like the US. We all have people that we feed the negative waves. Let's just all come together and live life to the fullest. War surly isn't the answer for anyone anywhere. Hope all th.kids I played football w are doing well at least.
Well united states can put 100 thousand troop fast if needed and Russia will have most of its equipment in the west china can move on russia land next on the east coast
There are more than 40000 Nato Soldiers in East Europe, with over 130 fighter jets, 200 ships, Attack helecopters, In Norway there is a big nato navy " training" they are only a day away. then you have the polish army 100 000 soldiers, the hongarian army, the romania army, ... America has another 10 000 soldiers in Germany only a 1000 / 2000 KM away. In Europe all counties are training and preparing extra divisions that can react quickle. I don't think the 3000 amarican soldiers have to fight the whole rusian army allone. At this moment they are a small part of the Nato Troops in East Europe.
@my my Putin really :) this is all planned by the west to increase arms sales :) the military industrial complex is making hundreds of billions on this and they hope to make even more and their puppet politicians will be will rewarded for it :) and who will pay the cost for it all, fools like you :)
Most of Russian troops are conscripts and are not told what is going on. The higher ups seem to be corrupt and the inability of lower ground troops to make decisions without notifying a higher up is restrictive to Russian military operations. Those 3,000 could be akin to Sparta's 300.
This video treats Europe like a population-less, powerless, economic-less field and puts the US vs Russia in some sort of abstract chess game. I understand it's "game theory" or whatever but even as a starting point this makes very little sense, it's not what Russia wants and it's not what the US wants and it definitely isn't what the EU wants
It is entirely about the US versus Russia. This is why Putin keeps trying to talk to the US. The US replies by saying don't talk to us, talk to NATO, knowing that NATO is only an expression of its members policies and so cannot make any policy without the USA. It is just a way of fobbing them off. What Russia wants is to keep the US military off Russia's border. If the US ever decided to deploy its full conventional military strength inside Ukraine, Russia would be completely unable to defend itself in a confrontation with the US, except by going nuclear. This is suicidal, so the US would have a decisive stranglehold on Russia. Putin knows that once Ukraine joins NATO he will be unable to forestall any US military deployments inside Ukraine, so it will be 'game over' for Russia. The neo-cons in Washington, notably Nuland who is obsessed with cutting Russia down to size, deeply resent Russia being able to constrain their actions around the world and seek to neutralise Russia. This has been sharply illustrated in Syria where the US would have overthrown Assad by now if it wasn't for Russian intervention. Neo-cons regard this as intolerable and push the idea that US global dominance is in some way essential for the maintenance of the 'liberal democratic' order in the world (if you can find it). To this end the idea of either compromise with Russia, or peaceful co-existence with Russia is an intolerable violation of their values, and the only acceptable policy is to get a decisive strategic advantage which can be used to eliminate Russia as a force in the world. If this can be achieved by economic warfare, or political destabilisation, fine, but a decisive military advantage is a parallel strategy. They have been working actively on all of these almost since the USSR collapsed.
@@bhangrafan4480 well said, if only all my fellow Europeans were open to what you just point out. We need balance in the World, with a World power in every Continent so things like Lybia and Siria could be avoided, Lybia was destroyed and Syria was fortunately saved by Russia otherwise we would had Terrorists running that country now
@@bhangrafan4480 Even as NATO has expanded to Russia borders we have not seen significant deployments of NATO or US Military personnel to those nations. In truth this appears more canard than actual motivation. IMO the real problem is thus, back before the latest color revolution more and more Ukrainians began looking west and started asking questions like why does Poland with the same population have 3 times the GDP with the same population? Why do nations like Hungary Czechia and Romania with much smaller populations have significantly larger economies? In large part because Russia, and by extension its satellite states, is ruled by an almost feudal kleptocratic elite which inherently stifles economic development. What keeps Putin and his political allies up at night, that enough Russians will start asking the same question. The answer of Putin's government is to try and sow distrust hostility and internal division into Russia's neighbors. So instead of acquiring one's own cow, kill the neighbors instead.
@@rekke41 Yes of course the US has not made force deployments into those eastern regions, for a number of reasons. Some are short-term, other are more long-term. Some are simply saving money. In military affairs you have to be aware of the difference between developing military capability and developing military capacity. Capability includes things like new technology, infrastructure (roads, railways, airfields, harbours etc.), training of allied troops and interoperability. These things take many years to achieve and much investment. Capacity can be built-up quickly. Troops can be moved in days, weeks and months. Aircraft can be moved in hours and days. The US is quietly building capability by the expansion of NATO, the upgrading of allies' militaries and infrastructure, and developing interoperability. Current NATO exercises in Ukraine, such as "Cossack Mace 2021" aim at developing interoperability. It is clear from US actions in Ukraine, that Ukraine will be joining NATO when the political situation allows it. In 2008 the US/UK wanted Ukraine to join but it was blocked by France/Germany. The US is waiting for a political situation where it will be begged to send its forces, also Ukraine will be allowed to join. Much of the ramping up of tensions between the west and Russia aims to get this. I've seen it all before. I knew by 1983 that the US intended to invade the Middle East. They spent billions around the region, the North Africa and the Indian Ocean developing harbour facilities, air bases and prepositioned stocks of ammo and spares. They had 330,000 troops allocated to CENTCOM and training for war in the Middle East. The public who pay for all this knew nothing. The US had to wait till 1990 when Saddam invaded Kuwait to activate plans which had been developed years earlier. They not only scrupulously avoided deterring Saddam from invading, but US ambassador Glaspie had actually given him a green light. Something similar is happening now. As usual the public are the only ones who know nothing. Since the end of the Cold War the US has been following a number of policies to gain a decisive strategic advantage over Russia. ABM systems combined with PGS technology are intended one day to give the US the nuclear monopoly it dreams of. The US has interfered in the internal politics of countries like Ukraine and Georgia to support Russophobic elements to isolate Russia from its neighbours and reduce its influence. I remember when Shakashvilli overthrew the elected government of Georgia by mobs, then held an unmonitored election to 'democratise' himself, the BBC correspondent saying "That he won 98% of the vote shows how much the people love him". Yeah, right, spreading democracy or western power and influence?
@@lukaslt9094 LoL yeah they'll be fighting with nuclear weapons. If that's the case then why even mention the number of soldiers. And BTW these days all European countries are capable of developing nukes, the reason they don't is because of NATO.
It’s easy to look weak when you have 65% of the world against you. It’s not that Russia is weak, really.. it’s more that they just don’t have the spirit to fight this war. If the USA or Ukraine where the ones who invaded Russia I bet you they would be looking a lot stronger. No one wants to fight a old politicians fight. These Russians are too westernized now. I doubt Russia will survive this conflict. As this will be the first domino falling. Once it reaches the end and they are all knocked down, Russia will be surrounded by nato and will have no choice. Which is actually sad as I do not support nato at all.
Russia is kinda untouchable considering their nuclear weapons that legally they are allowed to use in the case of defending russian lands. (These are tactical nukes btw, not cataclysmic.)
Never did I think that in my 20s, I'd be watching someone casually draw battle lines on youtube; explaining to the general public, and myself, that war is just a give and take. With missiles, tanks, guns, and IED, sure, but a give and take none the less.
Tbh you never thought that because you're in your 20s but in reality about 20 years ago similar discussions were being had over Iraq. About 10 years ago the same discussions were being had over Georgia. Or Syria. You've gotten numb to war but it's been here literally the entire time.
Well when you think about it, people our age have been living in fear of war our entire lives. I’m 21 and ever since I was 12 I’ve always wondered when wwiii would start
Some how Bucegi mountain portal is involved. USA wants it. under no circumstances will it be allowed russia take over as they did the tunnels under Ukraine..
Russia's wildest best case win is gaining influence over all of east bank and southern ukraine; Nato's wildest best case win is resolving all the frozen conflicts to their favor. While an interesting use of game theory, the actual red and blue lines are 1000 miles to the east of where you've drawn them. From this you'd actually conclude the american troops are actually pointless
Yes, barring the actual existence of actual magic Russia lacks the logistical capacity to wage war that far West. It's actually iffy if Russia could even reach say Kiev with sufficient troops what with their lack of transport. I suspect that Russia's intent would be to secure the Donbas and Luhansk regions and perhaps try to sieze Odessa.
ronpaul_2008 - fact is Russia does not have any best case wins - if it takes east bank of the Dniper it cannot afford a long and protracted war of attrition and cost that will be needed to maintain occupancy and 120,000 troops is not enough for that - game theory, my ass
@@JaM-R2TR4 - Putin has troops in Belarus mainly to quell the dissent against Russia and its puppet Lukashenko that has surfaced there before as well his latest antics are to show the Russians he is still a strong leader and gain some popularity points although all his attempts to divide and conquer Europe are kind of back firing - he's going to lose this game badly is my opinion
The token presence of US troops is expected, plus a too large presence has time and again proven to be detrimental in Europe. The negotiation lines are a novelty to me and I'm glad I got to learn of this. Thanks 😁
In 1961 when I was stationed in France and in Germany, it was said that the Soviet Union could at any moment roll across the borders in Europe through Germany, and those stationed there would have a rough time holding up against such an all out conventional attack. However, it was expected that the United States and other allies would quickly react to this scenario. There are plans in place for such an event. The presence of NATO troops is an overt warning to Russia that many more can arrive very quickly and at the best places to counter any such Russian aggression.
It reminds me of Churchill asking the French how many British troops France would need in the event of a German invasion. "Just one." replied the French "And we will see to it he is killed.""
@@maydate86 yes. I don't believe that number too. It's classified. Good reason why Russia mobilize their army and encircled the border, she feels threatened. If it's for exercise you don't need to bring every arsenals but Russia did bring all of it.
we in Poland think the same - once again weak and disarmed west Europe pushes us to fight land hungry tyrans ... change will be that we would this time fight as second and not on two fronts ;) so there is hope
Poland frigging hates Russia. Too much history of war between the two and hate for being under a Russian regime during the cold war. I believe Poland would fight like hell.
@@Byrzzaa Poland is the weakest militarily in its history. It is so weak that in this video no one even considered our army. Polska to pierdolony zdechlak pod respiratorem, teraz wojna toczy się na wschodzie naszego prawdziwego kraju. Ukraina to jedna z prowincji upadłej Rzeczypospolitej.
Man I am a Pole and I tell you that Poles are first to fight. If Russians decide to attack us, then they will have a big problem. People underestimate Polish strength.
@@Adam-gf3jg You know it costs money to fight a war. Russia is broke man. Appreciate the help from the US of course, but the rest of NATO alone would put up a hell of a fight IMO. Peace.
I am a brit and would stand shoulder to shoulder with the Poles and Lithuanians, they have a historic and deep hatred of Russian aggression, this hatred will give them the phycological advantage. Lets hope peace will prevail but if Putin kicks off I think he will be shocked at the hatred levelled towards his troops.
@@jrsleao Laughing emojis is disrespectful, WWll was a long time ago. If I had the choice I would choose to fight alongside a Polish soldier rather than a Portuguese one!
Thank you for sharing your insights. I had the exact problem at a recently family reunion in sharing my lasagna at the gathering. Had I seen your video I could’ve better come to terms with the predicament.
There are tens of thousands of U.S. troops in Europe already. They are not using them as a trip wire, but as a deterent. Your interpretation is outmoded.
And this (expert) forgot one huge thing. Poland Ukraine and others DO NOT want to live under Russian rule again. And Russia's population and Russia itself is not what it is used to be. They could not win a conventional War stay NATO. Only using Nukes. And then everyone loses. Vladimir is not that stupid. Stand up to him.He likes a fight.
@@earljohnson2113 But you forgat to mention almost 40 percent Ukraine population will support Russia.And that is by west statistic,if we look at Russian,number is higher. Now is different story why in CNN you never gonna hear about people in Ukraine who support Russia. You know when Russia come to Crimea there was 20 000 Ukraine soldier,they give them two options,first to leave Crimea or to stay ger citizenship and serve in Russia army,just google it how much choose first options.Only 6 000,rest of them stay.People on West side of country hate Russia but people on East are support them.
@@horacecunningham7832 it was more like the zombie hordes from world war z. I played my fair share of call of duty, gimme rpg's and I'm takin out T72s for breakfast lunch and dinner, gonna go kiss my cats goodbye.
To all those salty that this is such an American-centric view. I didnt watch the whole video, but I am familiar with this topic because it often comes up and offends people. It makes America seem like it's regarding itself as the only hope for Europe, but really this isnt what it's getting at. It isn't dismissing the Nato Member states and their contribution to mutual security, the video focus is on the USA vs Russia because the implication is nuclear war. There is no such thing as a conventional conflict between NATO coalition and Russia. Remember that. It's the assumption that leads us back to America and Russia as the two countries with fully developed nuclear capabilities, including a retaliatory "second strike" capability guaranteed by a nuclear triad with global reach. Only the US and Russia have this sort of Armageddon nuclear capability in their own right. France and the UK could devastate Russia as well, but the nuclear playing field, so to speak, would not be level in this instance. Russia would have a clear strategic advantage here in that they could theorize winning a nuclear war if America was completely out of the picture whatsoever. Because of this, it's logical that America is the main balancing force in Europe. Again, it's purely nuclear war calculus and not an affront to any nation's conventional military forces. I know NATO states bordering Russia are well-prepared now. Their militaries are modern and likely to be extremely combat effective because of the resolve of the nations to not endure another occupation. It is admirable and we ought to commend the professionals that keep smaller countries postured for defense at a moment's notice. But it just isn't part of this discussion. That's why these NATO countries are strategically irrelevant for the purposes of this kind of exercise. If bullets fly, so will missiles. No disrespect to Hungary, Romania, Poland, the Baltic countries, or any other country, but this is a theoretical nuclear exchange. These tripwire troops are there not because they're better than then host country's forces but because their presence is a pact signed in blood. If American soldiers are attacked by Russian forces, America will be forced to respond. In this way, Russia will not meddle or aggressively posture towards these border countries who happen to be NATO member states.
The United States airforce alone has more planes then all the other nato countries combined and the United States Navy has the second largest airforce in the world. America is 70% or natos strength.
@@patrickbateman2869 Another good point. There exists overwhelming numbers of technologically and operationally superior NATO units. Russia is measured in their attack. They know the hands of NATO are mostly tied, but we can expect tens of thousands of Ukrainian freedom fighters to conduct guerrilla operations against occupation force. Attrite the Russian occupying force, destroy materiel. These brave Ukrainians who will fight and die in their homeland will be equipped with a lot of excellent infantry anti-tank weapons. They can fly small drones to attack grounded Russian military aircraft or other airforce assets such as vehicles, fuel dumps, ammo dumps, etc. So much is possible with the resources NATO countries have at their disposal. Putin thinks he will be written about in history books. Who will be left to write those books? We must draw on our strength as free countries and open our doors to Ukrainians who will need the full support of the West. If we are going to be the force for morality, we must do this for them in their hour of need. Keep families together, shelter them and provide employment. It's the Free World vs. The Authoritarians
@@Chironex_Fleckeri I think the UK and France together have enough nuclear weapons to end the world on their own - toss in a few hundred more from Russia and there pretty much wouldn't be a livable planet left anyway
What makes you imagine that Poland and Romania are incapable of resisting Belorus and Russia? Transnistria would be the first to go, followed by everything that Stalin stole in 1939... Putin would not last for long.
@@ct0903 Afghanistan??? Also Russia got obliterated in WW2. Ten times the losses of any nation. That had nothing to do with military power and everything to do with using civilians as cannon fodder. It was a victory of circumstance.
@@BirdsR so you think 🤣 lmfao what is America going to do with 3000 troops ? Nothing that's right nothing !!!! America are a spent force fighting here there everywhere your military are done. Russia smash you.
There is some truth in this video, in regards to the purpose of US troops in Europe. However, you are not taking into consideration Article 5. If Russia invaded Poland or Romania, then the US would be obligated to declare war on Russia, regardless if there were any US troops in those countries or not. The US could withdrawal ALL US forces from these countries, and would still declare war on Russia per Article 5 if they were to be invaded. So the purpose of these US forces is not to be bait or a tripwire, but the purpose is to show Russia the unity of the NATO Alliance. Russia can not divide and conquer if there is no division. The overall strength of NATO is a much greater deterrent then a few thousand troops from any country. The US forces currently in Europe, along with the tens of thousands of other NATO troops there as well, is enough to counter the current Russian build-up, until each side reenforces of course.
@UTubeFekUrself Bloody lies are being propagated and gas lighting. The treaty is Ukraine will never join NATO and NaTO forces near Ukraine are barred and that is current day demand of Putin simple ..
@UTubeFekUrself If American troops die in Ukraine they die in vain. So they don't go there. Also if war breaks out I find it amusing American hipocracy and arrogance, the evil, they funded and created like Taliban or Al Qaeida made us run away and you want to face Russian hypersonic missiles and nuclear Missiles ..I know Dems election is near but stop kidding both leaders and Military are NOT fools till today they actually protected each other ..
@@granand , what are you talking about, there's no treaty in existence about limiting NATO expansion or Ukraine joining NATO. The Budapest Memorandum signed on 1994 on Security Assurances refers to three identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994 to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of nuclear weapons. The memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers: Russian, the United Kingdom, and the United States. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents... According to the memorandum, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of nuclear weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would: 1. Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders. 2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine. 3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to influence their politics. 4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used". 5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine. 6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments. Russia signed this on 1994 and it has broken the agreement. Russia should follow these rules as they signed and agreed...
@@granand no they are sent to die. It is theirs purpose. Thats why they sent 3000 solders only. Enough, if they die, US will have to escalate, too few to intimate the enemy.
Why did Leonidas bring only 300? It's not to win, but to hold the line to give other time to rally. But the events of the last 9 months have shown this to have been over kill, as the Russian Bear has embarrassed itself on the battlefield.
The reason they only have 3000 troops is because it’s not our country do you have the entire NATO backing our troops and if we had a buildup of a larger force it would allow Russia to take a more defensive stance feeling more threatened by an abundance of troops from the US that are not on their home territory and potentially themselves building up for an invasion the low Troop amount is to avoid tension increase as well as reduce mistakes made by those troops as the more true star the more mistakes can be made
difference between "looking dangerous" and "being dangerous".Russia describes military doctrine as defensive military doctrine. With regard to nuclear weapons specifically, Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons: in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it or its allies,in case of aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened. oops google russia deadhand The 'Perimeter' system, dubbed in the United States and Europe the 'Dead Hand', is an automatic control system for a retaliation nuclear strike. To put it simply, if Russia's territory is devastated after a nuclear attack, the Perimeter system automatically strikes the enemy's territory with its own nuclear missiles.
I think your opinion and William spaniel's opinion is in one direction. Sending small troops to avoid tension increase whilst baiting the opposition to strike first.
The reason they send 3000 troops is to fool the idiots who votes for demented politicians like Biden and Johnson domestically. There exists no kind of geostrategic sense to it at all. I KNOW that NATO would not react in the slightest whatever Russia does. They have 5000 bureaucrats in their HQ in Brussels. That proves that NATO has no ability to ever make any kind of decision. And that is good, because NATO has always been humiliatingly defeated in every conflict they ever have involved themselves in! No matter how weak their opponent has been.
Great thinking. And Putin is getting a bit unbalanced, provoked as he is by England and the U.S. War is unthinkable, and Putin never said that he would invade. The narrative was fabricated by the Anglos. The U.S. and U.S. corporate news are desperate to trigger war. The danger is: once a narrative for the invasion is created - making it as if the invasion is already a Reality - it will almost certainly become Reality! U.S. dreams of exhausting Russia to then strike at it. Stay out of it, U.S. criminal empire. No one wants war; Russia wants some security, nothing else. As you see below, Ukraine has a different narrative. "French President Emmanuel Macron is meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow today in hopes of de-escalating tensions over Ukraine. Macron will meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv on Tuesday. This comes as the Biden administration continues to warn of a possible attack on Ukraine by Russian forces and as U.S. officials reportedly said over the weekend Russia now has 70% of the necessary combat forces in place to invade. Following the comments from Washington, Ukraine’s foreign minister told Ukrainian citizens, “Do not believe the apocalyptic predictions.” The U.S. has also ramped up its arms transfer to Ukraine and sent troops to NATO allies in Eastern Europe and Germany in recent days."
The USA knows the former USSR territory, and it will be a very hard case to enter in Ukraine …when in history in 1991 Ukraine had its independence from Russia , but is considered as a former USSR colony , that’s why they place troops around the 1945 treaty…at behind the lines…which was the legitimate Cold War agreement. NATO can’t amend this treaty …otherwise it’s a full on war between East and West , which has significant impact on Germany and Eastern European nation , like Poland … Avoiding and establishing old rules treaty is the best security and stability to these regions.. If NATO amend this act , it will destroy all the deals made in nuclear proliferation. Emmanuel macron is very intelligent and knows the risk we are dealing with… even the Mossad knows and decides to stay away…
"If NATO amend this act , it will destroy all the deals made in nuclear proliferation." Well that would be terrible... cos Russia would just drop their non-proliferation agreements too... ohh wait!
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Sorry but the second part is complete nonsense. You really think Russia would be able to push an inch into NATO territorry? NATO spends more than 30X more on defense. Such a war would be end for Russia (conventional war), or the end of the world (nuclear war).
This video made me LOL. The area between those 2 lines are called sovereign states and there is no way in hell will their borders change short of a nuclear war. The will never be negotiated away. To say that the goal of IR is to negotiate away other countries in order to prevent war is just silly. States can only be counted on doing one thing....and that is what's ever in their best interest. Poland will fight and the US will help. This war will not end until Russia is pushed back to their original boarders. Those 3,000 additional troops are a JTF capable HQ. A Joint Task Force HQ is capable of running an entire theater of war. That is no joke. You're entire theory here is simply wrong....no offense. As someone who helped write the national defense strategy for Russia and the "stans" in my previous life I can attest while your theory is vaguely interesting its way off.
Facts : A story of 900 Filipino Soldiers who defeated 40,000 Chinese and North Korean forces on the hills of Yultong. General Douglas MacArthur once praised the gallantry and supreme tactical skills of Filipino soldiers during World War II: “Give me 10,000 Filipino soldiers and I will conquer the world.”
That nice drawing of borders is so cute, it's almost like then they drew the lines in Africa or the US but you forget that borders in the EU are most if the time drawn by geography and population Also countries in the EU have their standing armies and equipment, yes not as much as the US or Russia or China, but there is spending, also strategy also revolves around terrain not just numbers, remember WW2 sluggish war where they had to move river by river The truth of the matter is everything is complicated
With the amount and quality of technology in today’s military equipment, terrain is no longer an issue. Look at OEF in Afghanistan, we would have a small platoon get surrounded by hundreds of enemy fighters holding the advantageous high ground, and that platoon would win. With AC-130 gunships, predator drones, and A-10 Warthogs all providing close air support, any advantage they could possibly have was utterly meaningless. In fact, the US military is already working toward completely removing humans from combat roles in the next 50 years. Realistically, terrain has been a nonissue in the outcome of any battle since Desert Storm.
@@byewhobayou8868 Ok, there are a bunch of issues here. For one, this deals only with Game Theory. Game Theory is not the best predictor of outcomes because it assumes outcome maximizing behavior to the exclusion of all else. However, its unfair to hold the OP's Game Theory analysis to factors not considered by Game Theory itself such as tactics, terrain, and culture. Second, the OP wasn't saying that these lines were actually the expected gains by the two sides. (It's hard to see NATO giving up 4/5ths of a member state's territories.) This was an example for the purposes of explaining Game Theory, not as an actual prediction of behavior. The other issue is that Terrain is still supremely important in warfare. Afghanistan is a false example because the technological differences were far more massive than they would be in a European War. Regardless, the impenetrable mountainous terrain meant that the strongest military in the world was unable to find and eradicate the Taliban in 20 years of conflict. Compare with Iraq where the insurgency was defeated far more quickly. Terrain does still matter.
@@braxon I’m not sure what you’re referring to. I didn’t take this theory as a true indication of a potential outcome to a potential scenario. However, on the subject of terrain, it really isn’t that important anymore. Afghanistan is a great indicator of overcoming terrain, regardless of military disparities, because it proves that the challenges of terrain in past wars like crossing muddy rivers in WW2 are no longer a fight stopper. The only difference, is that this potential enemy has been able to overcome those challenges as well. Terrain, troop numbers, and even strategies are meaningless. Yes, I included strategy. It’s been proven in every battle throughout history, that no plan survives contact with the enemy. Sure,
All of the things that I mentioned could be helpful in certain scenarios, but overall, it’s not as important as what you bring to the fight and your resolve to win it.
@@byewhobayou8868 I was referring to both you and the OP bayou. If the statement clearly wasn't referring to his post an not yours, you don't need to feign confusion. Second the Taliban didn't overcome the mountainous terrain, they used it to avoid American attacks as the Americans had substantial difficulty seeking out Taliban forces in the mountainous caves throughout the country. Accordingly, the terrain afforded the defending side an advantage over the attackers. Terrain mattered. Regardless, with much even technology, terrain would still matter far more as air superiority and mobility differences won't be a given.
US has over a dozen major military installations and over 60k force in Europe (considering probably 85% are non-combatants). Europe has their own too. Ukraine is covered under the EU Defense Clause and is unofficially supported by NATO already indirectly. This guys logic is off.
That could be one way to look at it. Or take it from this perspective, Ukraine has a military, Poland has a military, Romania has a military, Estonia, Lativa etc. etc. Also, the US has what 35K in Germany, about the same in Italy (maybe less). The whole 82nd and 101st can be in country ready to go within 48 hours. the US can also be sending a message that this is a European issue and not totally a US/Russia issue.
Exactly. Also these 3,000 troops aren't just some dudes that are going to sit in trenches with rifles they are F-35 pilots, M1 Abrams tank crews, Javelin anti tank units, special forces, mortar squads, artillery crews, drone operators, engineers. But being honest US has conventional forces there simply so the non nuclear countries don't feel scared of Russia and leave NATO because everyone knows a couple days or weeks of fighting and someone will use nuclear weapons.
i was wondering about how those lines crossed ukraine but then i saw when it was uploaded... with the performance the russians show in ukraine i think you should update this video with all three lines deeply in russia.
So ... You're predicting a partition of Ukraine and, interestingly, Moldova falling into Russia's sphere of influence. I think Moldova would rather unify with Romania than to let that happen.
He draws just a bit of Moldova in the Russian sphere. Thats: Transnistria, officially the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (PMR),[b] is an unrecognised breakaway state located in the narrow strip of land between the river Dniester and the Moldovan-Ukrainian border that is internationally recognised as part of Moldova. Its capital and largest city is Tiraspol. ... The present history of the region dates to 1990, amidst the disintegration of the Soviet Union, when the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic was established in hopes that it would remain within the Soviet Union should Moldova seek unification with Romania or independence, the latter occurring in August 1991. Shortly afterwards, a military conflict between the two parties started in March 1992 and was concluded by a ceasefire in July of the same year.
WW3 is upon us. Last time appeasement worked was never. We tried it with Germany and they took more and more and more and we kept giving hoping to avoid war. That is what might happen here.
I was with the 24TH Infantry, and this strategy was in play in both Korea (a little before me) and Iran. Our job was to stay alive long enough to get supplies (roughly 45 days) with about two weeks worth of ammo. The US factor also includes air superiority which means each of those US units has everything from Navy carriers to B-52 bombers behind them. The 45 day figure also included hos long we would last under the barrage of friendly fire.
The real question is why did the us and nato involve and antagonize this attack, better yet, why did the us send any military their if they aren’t even apart of the NATO bloc?
What are you even saying alexandru?¿? Do your research and due diligence, buddy. Ukraine is not apart of NATO in fact they aren’t even apart of the European Union, they were deemed independent from back in 2014 when the bs with Crimea went down. They are currently attempting to get a membership with the EU because the failed attempts with NATO…
And the failed attempts with joining nato is one of the security risks that Russia is fighting for… I do believe Putin is making it worst by using force, but that is why China agrees with Putin granted Russia isn’t in a war with Ukraine Putin is… until everyone agrees this world would be a better place with all nuclear weapons being holsterd it will be world war 3 with Putin not russia once the threat is eliminated then the threat is still a threat… so who is the threat? Russia? Ukraine? Putin? China? Well everyone is a threat to someone and that’s what will drag this out… I will say this isn’t ww3 this is just one bit of a distraction… ww3 will be when China and russia attack and everyone submits or dies.
While this is a decent example of how game theory works, it is no where near the reality. It’s silly to consider those countries militaries as being controlled entirely by nato, especially when their sovereignty is concerned.
and that will be it - the whole "imminent Russian invasion" scam is coming ONLY from Western shills - Russia does not even need to invade - it just had to wait and watch
Lookin back now it looks like the US knew how shite the Russian military was and knew 3000 soldiers could hold out at least 2 weeks against some drunk, logistic problem having, non NCO having conscripts.
Dude, Romania has an Army, Ukraine has an Army, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, the Czech Republic and most importantly Germany (who’s economical interests lie in the Eastern Eu) has an army, those troops (3000 US) are not alone…. This is just Putin „flexin‘ for the ‚gram“ LOL
As long Russia has its nukes nobody can touch them. Russia is not planning to invade Ukraine. That " imminent invasion" is American hoax with an endgame to stop NS2 by sanctions. Every European leader should se that now.
If 3000 US troops were overrun by the Russians in Eastern Europe, US voters would ask themselves: _"- What f**king loser-fool made that decision!!! We don't want go to war with nuclear power Russia for what's its name."_
1:23 I’ve been stationed in 3 places for about 4 years total just to serve this purpose. Especially in Korea we understood that we were a speed bump with a US flag
According to the Pentagon, from the beginning, NATO has 80,000 troops ready in Europe? From a military strategic point of view, a lot of troops are needed to keep occupied ground. Ukraine is a large country and military generals in the West estimate that about 500,000 troops are needed for the whole Ukraine.
Russia still have 900000 aktive personer in background. And 2 million who have to come. China is ally now. Also come to help russia if you gays go stupid
EUCOM (United States European Command) has about 70,000 personnel prior to current Ukraine's security issue. 8500 has been allocated for Europe from the mainland US.
Approximately 74,000 personnel are permanently assigned to EUCOM. These include 34,000 Army personnel, 27,000 Air Force personnel, 3,000 Marine personnel, and 10,000 Navy personnel. Most of the US military strength is allocated towards the Pacific side. The US has 1,346,400 active-duty personnel. 165,000 deployed personnel. Polish Armed Forces consist of 114,050 active-duty personnel. From US's POV, the European front is on lower prority compared to "Pivot to Asia".
U.S. has 1k station at 3 corners for a reason . This strategy here is if Russia invades , they will not confront U.S. presence . Or move any more west. This is a deterrent and invisible boundary. 1k troops stationed north, 1k stationed west, 1k stationed south this the line.
In 1991 I was talking to a group of US Army soldiers and I assured them that the US was going to mop up the Iraqi army. I predicted 100,000 Iraqi dead and 4000 US dead. They thought I was high. They said "but the Iraqi's have the best Soviet weapons" I said that I read Tom Clancy and I know what Im talking about. LOL.(really, read red storm rising) Turns out my bravado was a little understated. Looks like the Russian equipment hasnt improved much.
@@indrakurniawan6359 They would do nothing. But a big, strong, modern Polish army with a show of support from British and American allies is enough to deter further escalation.
@@indrakurniawan6359 I predict nothing will happen. Lots of saber rattling. But rest assured that if something did happen they wouldn't be even given a crumb of Polish Soil.
Agreed. This video is one-dimensional and lacks nearly all context. The author chops up and gives away Poland as if it was a block of cheese. This is laughable.
I don't understand how people don't realize that its an example and not actually how he predicts it to play out, obviously there are other factors. The lines were drawn randomly to show an example of this concept.
Prior to the invasion, the US must heavily fence Ukraine with its military force to avoid Russia's attack just for a humanitarian reason as a world's peacekeeper because we all know Ukraine's military can't parallel to Russia. I cried a lot for this conflict and pray God will intervene and stop this war.
There bringing There military to Rusias border. USA didn't like that when Rusia try to set some weapons in Cuba. Why are they being so hypocritical, imagine military bases from Rusia down in México, that would start a fucking war, and everyone would say of course that's to be expected. Then don't fucking do to other's ............. to you. USA should stop looking to make war on every fucking country. Rusia is not Irak or Afghanistan, where you can bomb the hell out of there country with no consequences. One day the dog is going to bite back and it's going to hurt alot.
Any1 with a brain can easily see that Russia simply don't want NATO surrounding them. How would you feel if you wake up tomorrow and see that your neighbors are not buddies of your enemies and having to live know that your enemies are always right next door to you? That will never sit well with any1.
There's also the point of anytime Russia (or China) wants more land, they can threaten the nuclear option, and keep expanding. Knowing Russia will do this, US can place their 3000 troops and say, go ahead and cross the line, knowing if they do.... well you know the rest. Logically it's better to take down a starving weak bear, then one that has grown strong.
Why would they threaten nuclear? If they want the land why would they use nuclear weapons. You realize that would be stupid because of the nuclear fallout and the land would be useless. So it makes no sense to do that
@@chrisoreilly3481 I don't know why Putin threatened to use the nuclear option. My best guess is he's a closet psychopath. To even suggest such a thing in his position is so beyond irresponsible it's hard to assume otherwise.
@@loyaltytothearkadianate lol. Yes politics that makes sense. I'm wondering how strong China Russian relations are along their boarder? I never hear of any drama there?
Without having seen this set of lines, I have previously commented on other threads that Russia would stop at the Dniper, in the event of an invasion. The game scenario described here seems to almost make that advance a certainty.
The Bug and the Dniepr are the geographical border between Eastern and Central Europe. The Don is the border between Russia and the Ukraine. Putin is striving to stay popular.
I am writing this comment when it has been 4 or 5 days since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began. Russia called the bluff and the Russian army is now at the gates of Ukraine! Though Ukrainians are putting up a staunch fight for their homeland and their independence. Kudos to them.
Независимость какая говори мне в чем мы просто бьем фашистов и всу и только их, а не мирных граждан . Независимость украины не было им управляет НАТО с америкой откуда подумай наемников много и ракетниц
Not to make light of anything, I just want want to say that this presentation seemed to get a bit darker (at least to me). It seems that one nation might leave the tip of the spear to die so that the rest can follow. I'm just glad that we have men and women willing to lay down their lives for the greater good. Great lecture as always.
no its different time those days the 101st and 82nd airborne division were bunch of tough guys with lack of equipment and supply could held the nazi. but nowadays those division its filled with LGBT people who more concern about pride month rather than training with hard condition like E company with CPT Sobel. it will be very unbalance if LGBT Paratroops have to fight with Russian more over if the Russian its From Siberia
@@notxarbsenoj9231 Not Really care actually just funny to see how come the most legendary division in US Army Become Division with political issues such as LGBT. and umm i love to follow Such a Military social media not just those i Mention but also several Division and Regiment just for fun and bit a Research. I dont really hope those Division have to fight with Russian since if that happend would be end of the world.
Your land tradeoff analogy however also misses the key point. Russia isnt interested in slices. It wants the whole cake. It may justify defeat by just annexing the slices it stole already , but slices dont help it. Russia has a set of bigger possible aims. Seizing the whole Ukraine changes the strategic geography of Europe . His tanks are better placed to threaten 7 NATO states and target more with his missiles if they move forward. NATO is weakened and either has to rearm and return US forces, or it will be far more vulnerable. Its a bad move - because it may just see NAT0 and America restore deterrence with tanks, men, Americans and the missiles Putin fantasises about. Secondly , the threat to the regime is the political and economic success of the former Soviet states compared with failing Russia, Its not the threat of being attacked by them - which is ridiculous. You gain nothing by removing a slice of one example, your strategy needs the old wall of failing states between the Kremlin and western Europe. The problem is you cant control one resisting Ukraine let alone the whole of the Warsaw pact states. Putin is relic of the Soviet Union and cold war. Its posssible he just thinks he can restore the good old days. Its domestcally driven. Theres internal pressure on Putin to act and a need to divert attention from economic and covid failure. So he's reinvented the non existant external threat - because its what the dictators manual says to do.Once stsrted , he looks weak if he walks away from doing something even more counterproductive and stupid.
You are making assumptions or just echoing what US propagandist say even though it's all lies. Russia has the right to ensure the safety of their country.
@@jaismohamad1497 okay Mr. Russian supporter. I am sure Putin doesn't even want a nuclear war. He said it himself in a conference with the French president. We should just hope that there is no war breaking out at all.
Your key point is baseless because it is based on conjecture and personal bias. If the Russians instigated a coup and changed the Kiev government then you have a basis. Obviously you ignore this key event in 2014, where its the US that's the aggressor. No wonder the neo cons still survive in the State dept . Despite a clear track record of regime change and false flags there are still gullible people without concern for the unintended consequences of wars. Ask the Germans who thought they were so strong after beating France and England they thought they could invade Russia(USSR). You guys don't know shit about Russia amd still rely on faulty and false information. Putin has done nothing to restore old Soviet glory. He has criticized the Soviet era. Neglecting to understand or acknowledgr that the Soviets succeeded where the Czars failed. You think the Russian economy is failing ...thats silly.the Russian GDP is the 6th largest in the world by PPP which which is significant for a country that has never been helped by the West and for a country with only 150 million people. Has no track record of overthrowing countries and stealing their oil and gold. Their 6th place means it accounts for inflated exchange rate of the US dollar and the political devaluation of an economy that is not in debt , has a budget surplus, substantial gold reserves and tremendous natural resources. The Germans favored by tbe west has freelancers to markets and naturally sells products doesn't make any of the heavy equipment that tbe Russians have produced. The Russians have produced 38 heaby and sophisticated Ice Breakers and the US has 1? So your perceptions of Russian economy is flawed. Without Russian technology and financing the economies of India and China wouldn't be where they are now. China recently flew a hypersonic glide plane. The dishonest article that highlighted the event failed to mention that the Russians already have the hypersonic missile. Like everything else dont you think Russians may have shared that technology? The Russian have strong links with a country that has 4 times the population of the US? I.e. 4 times the market. China is also the world's largest economy since 2017. You are wrongly informed and base your conclusions on false assumptions ...typical
@@DOI_ARTS not only russians were kickout of afghanista even the US & NATO forces too. Stop bragging about it. Do you know how many western & nato forces died in afghanistan? They are well-trained soldiers. Salute to them !
An issue with applying the bargaining model is that the expected outcome of fighting and costs to both sides have to be common knowledge. I think it's self-evident that decision-makers are often delusional about the expected outcome of fighting (which only compounds the genuine uncertainty).
Russia is not a Iraq or Afghanistan? In case of US direct involvement in war with Russia.. .. there will blood and smoke in US also..... US civilians will also taste the war they loved and longed
Russia has more than enough tech and air defense to stop any real U.S airpower. They have the U.S beat in Missile defense, theirs is second to none right now. It's really the only tech they have poured all of their development in since the collapse, that and radar jamming technology. The entire U.S stealth fleet is a spec of dust when compared to the size of the Russian continent. U.S helicopter doctrine is also worthless when every russian squad is equipped with those nasty MANPAD systems. It would be a very dirty and bloody war fought mostly on the ground and with drones, The U.S does not like watching it's pilots shot down on tictok. Nukes would absolutely be used. We know it, and they know it.
Turkey shot two of their fivhter jets few years ago in Syria and they were unabke to do anything. Their s400 anti air defense missiles is a joke as Israel has been taking out targets in Syria despite their so mighty anti air defense systems.
If they did invade, they will engulf those tiny nations in few days. Russia have many weapons that world do not know. As a person who lives in Africa, I suggest both sides to negotiate, other wise you will suffer like you haven't seen ever.
You must think The United States Of America is a walk in the park…… we have technology that we don’t discuss… unlike these other countries who love to Flex, we keep shit on the down low. America will absolutely CRUSH the rest. Bet
Both countries have higher weapon jets and so on the reason why is because both Russia and America are the highest seller of weapon in all thing except America also sales navy fleets and Russia sales better rifle
Eyca School. - you can try to negotiate but there is an impasse so the next step to avoid invasion is to bring up ALL your military - basic 101 warfare - stop being a weenie
This is a contemporary joke from 1918, when Americans still were farmers and cowboys and not think tankers and pod casters: American general: "- This is what we have to do and this is how we must do it!" French general: "- Yes, that all sounds very practical. But how would it work in theory?"
@@Fartrellcluggins69 The world sees how NATO fled in panic from Afghanistan, after 20 years of occupation, and left all of their weapons behind. Because the corruption and crimes spiked more than ever in Afghanistan's history during the occupation. NATO has neither any ability, nor any credibility anymore. Please try to take a look at reality once in a while, and try to accept it ahead of your ideological fantasies from the 1990s.
@@bjorntorlarsson you are so confused its not even funny. Youre talking about nato as if its the us. It is not. We are part of it but thats all. And we did pull out of afghanistan...after 20 years. But youve failed to mention how russia took off in just under ten. You are clueless. The american war machine is #1 and you know it.
@@Fartrellcluggins69 It is only the US that has any military force. NATO in Europe has tiny low budget military. And most of their leaders don't care the least squat about Ukraine. Or about Taiwan for that matter. NATO will soon cease to exist. The US has sent all of its industry to China(because idiots like you thought that if we make the Chinese communist party rich, then they will become Americans!), has spent the last 30 years in humiliatingly failed small wars and is thus now behind China and Russia in things like advanced missiles. Because you didn't need modern missiles to meaninglessly kill analphabets in Central Asia. The US is financially bankrupt and in an escalating domestic social disaster. How come it is who hard for you to accept a total failure and realize that the only thing to do now is to accept ones own weakness and retreat? You would be the worst kind of troop leader who would order an obvious slaughter with your mental malfunction as only justification. I wish it had been different, but it isn't. So we need to accept reality and go from here.
🤨 💭 I disagree with his analysis📝🧐 I’m a vet & I’ve never witnessed any conflict besides “CIVIL WAR” where🇺🇸fighting without any allies. NATO are a combination of many countries contributing ARMIES, EQUIPMENTS, ETC…
It is all about strategic flow of goods. Russia already achieved everything; cut the silk road through Ukraine and Bialorusia to Poland and control the road through Kazakhstan to Hungary. It'll not be any invasion of Ukraine, why to risk cutting NS2?
Only way to Russia step in Ukraine is to Ukraine first atack rebels on the East(Ukraine are send almost 50 percent their forces who are only 30km far from rebels). If they not atack rebels,then Russia will not send army for sure because NS2 is to important for them.
That’s why people think that the Russians will do a operation to make it look like the Ukrainian forces did it when in reality it was Russian troops. Stealing a game plan from Hitler when he invaded Poland and said polish troops were the ones that crossed the border and initiated the war. In reality it was German troops dressed as polish soldiers to make it seem reasonable for Hitler to invade Poland. Tricky situation. Do we want to have a all out conflict over Ukraine? Then China(ccp) will hit Taiwan. Almost same senario as the Japanese attack when we were focused on the war in Europe
@@judd0112 People think this because all the western media and US officials are telling them to think like that. In reality, rather, the US force their puppets in Kiev to make a real provocation and then say that it was done by the Russians. And you are already being trained to believe it. Because the United States is the only one who is interested in a war in the center of Europe and has been trying to ignite it since 2014.
@@ComradeHugo in fact Biden is calling for Americans to evacuate Ukraine, all I've heard about invasions is the same thing about both sides and that is that Russia will invade Ukraine and that Ukraine will invade Russia.
Sometimes I wonder. Why do some people don't think before putting crap on TH-cam. The US sent 3000 soldiers to Poland and Romania. It's a sign of support to those countries. If Putin plays a fool and attacks US soldiers. The Apache helicopters and the F 35 would take the sky immediately. The military fought war, using a technique called combine approach, the birds in the air, the whales on the ocean, and on the ocean floor. So if you think, 3000 US soldiers near the battlefield without support think again A couple of years ago there were 27 US soldiers in Syria where they base, and 300 Russian mercenaries approaching the base firing shots and the soldiers. They called back, the F16s and the Apaches didn't show mercy. In less than an hour over close to 200 dead.
If I recall right a President can call up a force of 100,000 troops to deploy without actually going to Congress to declare war. That's from any branch of the services.
Well, after two months of war in Ukraine, I feel like 3000 US troops was actually overkill.
lol i wrote the exact same comment before reading yours
I think the red line is pretty much in the suburbs of Moscow these days. The blue line is now yellow and blue and kicking the shit out of the red line!
This video make one bad assessment. Polish military has 120 thousand man personel (actually trained one, not shitty conscripts) and they main job is to delay Russia, before reinforcements arrive. Most of US personel in Poland operate on advanced weapons like Patriots and Abrams. Despite what Trump babbling, Europe doesn't need defense. Those are systematic defense operations. Though tripwire argument is also true, they aren't expected to die.
I come away from this
that NATO is willing to sell out Ukraine and a sizeable portion of eastern Europe for peace and cheap energy, am I wrong ?
@@fearlessfruge6445 NATO is not just Germany and France (or even US). Putin facepalmed forgetting that smaller nations actually hold collectively proportionally sizable power on West.
It appears shocking now, over 200 days into this war at how far west those lines are being drawn. If anyone think Russia could take and hold even the smallest amount of NATO territory then they haven’t been paying attention at all.
I always come back to these videos to chuckle at the prediction vs reality.
Machines and air superiority, seems nowadays more important, as we can see.
@@cultugarvealgarve7380 Air superiority is king as of right now, but you must maintain it. We have seen in recent conflicts that Russia isn't able to keep air superiority to the crushing capability it is supposed to have but NATO seems to. A single man with a MANPAD has become the fear of the russian plan.
From war reports, it seems artillery is still the main player in battle and strategic deployment.
@@ClemDiamond yes indeed, mafia was never known for organizing armies, sciene or univerrsities etc.
Never forget, people (including Russia) thought their military was actually properly armed. They weren't.
NATO is made of 30 countries and most of the troops are already in Europe.
I’ll never understand why ppl think “the West” or “NATO” only means USA.
Technically you are right. But those other NATO countries are only in their because the US is, and it calls the shot.
because USA defend budget is bigger then all other countries together, thats why
@@olkredesign2410 that isn't to mention that it is an American led alliance.
@@jsharps1000 BULLIED NOT LED
@@paullakowski2509 no I think i described it correctly. sorry we aren't Russian here bud.
It is incredible to me how badly this video has aged. As recently as two months ago the author thought Russia had the capability to invade most of Eastern Europe. Not meaning to pick on him, most so called “expert” opinion seemed to think Russia really was that powerful.
I’m laughing at it now. 3000 could hold off all the Russians
@@rogerbrownreacts8528 3000 Multi-Ethnic soldiers of Biden.
@@koboldparty4708 Biden Who ?
@@koboldparty4708 Degenerate
Bruh was just about to say the same thing especially when he said those soldiers “don’t stand a chance”. Russian propaganda was that good. Had us believing they could take over Poland and Romania at the same time lol.
Imagine being one of those 3000 troops hearing this guy on TH-cam saying you’re just there to die 😂
That's reality fact.
That's funny
They already know that that’s what they are. They aren’t ignorant to that reality.
I think they know what's up
a friend of mine is there right now in romania
It seems everyone forgets that Poland and Romania also have troops. About 200k together. Not to mention that the other EU countries could react quickly as well and some have nuclear weapons.
No, you are wrong. It is important that you realize this. All Western countries have spent 30 years demilitarizing themselves. NATO has no ability at all to resist a Russian invasion. We are only lucky that Putin has no such intentions at all.
@@bjorntorlarsson Of course, considering how strong Russia is, such an economic powerhouse that would certainly resist without exports not starving. It happened in the past.
@@bjorntorlarsson NATO has US, UK, CAN, FRA. USA alone could resist Russian invasion against NATO members.
@@bjorntorlarsson You are so far from correct, it’s hilarious. Russia is a shadow of its former military might. The EU nations alone would tear Putin a new one, even before American forces arrive (late as always) to mop up.
@@Bob10009 1,000 French officers the other year wrote an open letter to Emanuelle macron (you know, he who is married with his 25 years older school teacher and who has a stepson who is older than himself), calling him a traitor for having abolished the last of the French army. Haven't you heard that the French army got totally beaten up by a gang of unarmed nomads in Mali last week, and fled in panic? Mali government has hired "The Wagner Group", Russian privateers, to fight for them instead. You shall see, and the jihadists are soon no more in Mali.
Germany has no military at all. One of the two US soldiers there called their boy scouts "parasiting back packers". If you meet him, one of the two US soldiers that serve in Germany, ask him yourself what he thinks about the ability of the pretend-to-be German army. They have no navy and no air force either.
How many armored divisions can the US air lift to Europe within the week they have until the Russians hit the Atlantic coast? And would they even try after they have detonated a nuke in the middle of the Atlantic?
"Come on now", like the demented president says (while Putin plays ice hockey with his defense minister). Get real and accept the facts. The 1990s is over. Russia is the only great power in Europe. ALL European want to have it that way, else they wouldn't have deliberately created this situation during the last 30 years.
It's extremely interesting to look at past video's, even before the war started, and seeing people's analysis. And how it turned out (for) now...
"this sheer man power would vastly overwhelm the 3000 troops".
1 month later when Russia can't even overwhelm Ukraine.
Welp, this didn't age well.
I wouldnt bark so loud. Russia is rich and has allies. They know their military equipment is subpar. There will be an upgrade.
And the idea of forming an eastern NATO on the table. However, its not a westlike. NATO has no conquering state, US is more meddling than conquering.
But Russia as China want to expand. Even when allied, at a certain point, they will fight.
And forgetting that the 3000 are additional, the US has 100 000 in europe, and all the other nato countries have soldiers to match Russia several times over.
Россия не делает как Американцы...Американцы просто закидывали бомбами, Афганистан ,Ливию, Ирак, Иран,Сирию и тд....Америка сбросила Атомную Бомбу на Японию, или все забыли сразу....А-? Теперь, мы вам точно устроим КУЗЬКИНУ МАТЬ...ЕСЛИ ДАЖЕ ПУТИН ОСТАНОВИТЬСЯ, МЫ НЕ ОСТАНОВИМСЯ-DAS IST FAKT!✊
@@hallarious506 i want what he's smoking cause china has other plans then to work with russia anymore lmao
@@legolus3334 China and Russia are frienemies at best. Russia is desperately looking for support, and China is looking to challenge the US, but the two aren't looking to be allies.
Crazy how in 96 I was playing youth football with Russians from Moscow area in a thing called friendship through football. They came here. Usa. And we went there also. Was a different time for sure but I imagine alot of them guys are in Russian military as we're many of my friends. Crazy how diplomatic shit can kill a friendship and then have each other eventually on a battlefield 25 yrs later. Just has me thinking what's really right and morality.
Common Russians have nothing to do with escalation. You'll find more Putin fans in Hungary or Africa than in Russia.
@@DerDop yeah I believe that to a point. No doubt. Just like the US. We all have people that we feed the negative waves. Let's just all come together and live life to the fullest. War surly isn't the answer for anyone anywhere. Hope all th.kids I played football w are doing well at least.
Well united states can put 100 thousand troop fast if needed and Russia will have most of its equipment in the west china can move on russia land next on the east coast
"Why don't princes fight the wars? Why do they always send the poor?" - System of a Down.
War is just a distraction from things like inflation, money laundering, depopulation, slavery, resource exploitation etc...
There are more than 40000 Nato Soldiers in East Europe, with over 130 fighter jets, 200 ships, Attack helecopters, In Norway there is a big nato navy " training" they are only a day away. then you have the polish army 100 000 soldiers, the hongarian army, the romania army, ... America has another 10 000 soldiers in Germany only a 1000 / 2000 KM away. In Europe all counties are training and preparing extra divisions that can react quickle. I don't think the 3000 amarican soldiers have to fight the whole rusian army allone. At this moment they are a small part of the Nato Troops in East Europe.
America has almost 100K military in Europe
@AG TaNGrA *winning :)
@AG TaNGrA also their active army is 300k strong + territorial defense
@AG TaNGrA your comment aged quite badly didn't it
@@randomcat9314 hehe.... 👍🏻🙂
Psychopaths are monsters. Instead of being allowed to be the leaders of nations and corporations, they should be confined to cages.
@my my Putin really :) this is all planned by the west to increase arms sales :) the military industrial complex is making hundreds of billions on this and they hope to make even more and their puppet politicians will be will rewarded for it :) and who will pay the cost for it all, fools like you :)
Very true.
You got that right.
Most of Russian troops are conscripts and are not told what is going on. The higher ups seem to be corrupt and the inability of lower ground troops to make decisions without notifying a higher up is restrictive to Russian military operations. Those 3,000 could be akin to Sparta's 300.
They don’t advertise our comparison to “Sparta’s 300” being anywhere.
Meanwhile, clueless Russian conscripts breaking down the Ukrainian military and essentially reordering the world order.
Americans are not compareable to spartans haha
3000 could have held them all back if the has the weapons
@@kierano8390 Meet me I’ll make you a believer. I’m the reason a population should have guns.
This video treats Europe like a population-less, powerless, economic-less field and puts the US vs Russia in some sort of abstract chess game. I understand it's "game theory" or whatever but even as a starting point this makes very little sense, it's not what Russia wants and it's not what the US wants and it definitely isn't what the EU wants
It is entirely about the US versus Russia. This is why Putin keeps trying to talk to the US. The US replies by saying don't talk to us, talk to NATO, knowing that NATO is only an expression of its members policies and so cannot make any policy without the USA. It is just a way of fobbing them off. What Russia wants is to keep the US military off Russia's border. If the US ever decided to deploy its full conventional military strength inside Ukraine, Russia would be completely unable to defend itself in a confrontation with the US, except by going nuclear. This is suicidal, so the US would have a decisive stranglehold on Russia. Putin knows that once Ukraine joins NATO he will be unable to forestall any US military deployments inside Ukraine, so it will be 'game over' for Russia. The neo-cons in Washington, notably Nuland who is obsessed with cutting Russia down to size, deeply resent Russia being able to constrain their actions around the world and seek to neutralise Russia. This has been sharply illustrated in Syria where the US would have overthrown Assad by now if it wasn't for Russian intervention. Neo-cons regard this as intolerable and push the idea that US global dominance is in some way essential for the maintenance of the 'liberal democratic' order in the world (if you can find it). To this end the idea of either compromise with Russia, or peaceful co-existence with Russia is an intolerable violation of their values, and the only acceptable policy is to get a decisive strategic advantage which can be used to eliminate Russia as a force in the world. If this can be achieved by economic warfare, or political destabilisation, fine, but a decisive military advantage is a parallel strategy. They have been working actively on all of these almost since the USSR collapsed.
@@bhangrafan4480 well said, if only all my fellow Europeans were open to what you just point out. We need balance in the World, with a World power in every Continent so things like Lybia and Siria could be avoided, Lybia was destroyed and Syria was fortunately saved by Russia otherwise we would had Terrorists running that country now
@@bhangrafan4480 Even as NATO has expanded to Russia borders we have not seen significant deployments of NATO or US Military personnel to those nations.
In truth this appears more canard than actual motivation. IMO the real problem is thus, back before the latest color revolution more and more Ukrainians began looking west and started asking questions like why does Poland with the same population have 3 times the GDP with the same population? Why do nations like Hungary Czechia and Romania with much smaller populations have significantly larger economies? In large part because Russia, and by extension its satellite states, is ruled by an almost feudal kleptocratic elite which inherently stifles economic development.
What keeps Putin and his political allies up at night, that enough Russians will start asking the same question. The answer of Putin's government is to try and sow distrust hostility and internal division into Russia's neighbors. So instead of acquiring one's own cow, kill the neighbors instead.
@@rekke41 Yes of course the US has not made force deployments into those eastern regions, for a number of reasons. Some are short-term, other are more long-term. Some are simply saving money. In military affairs you have to be aware of the difference between developing military capability and developing military capacity. Capability includes things like new technology, infrastructure (roads, railways, airfields, harbours etc.), training of allied troops and interoperability. These things take many years to achieve and much investment. Capacity can be built-up quickly. Troops can be moved in days, weeks and months. Aircraft can be moved in hours and days. The US is quietly building capability by the expansion of NATO, the upgrading of allies' militaries and infrastructure, and developing interoperability. Current NATO exercises in Ukraine, such as "Cossack Mace 2021" aim at developing interoperability. It is clear from US actions in Ukraine, that Ukraine will be joining NATO when the political situation allows it. In 2008 the US/UK wanted Ukraine to join but it was blocked by France/Germany. The US is waiting for a political situation where it will be begged to send its forces, also Ukraine will be allowed to join. Much of the ramping up of tensions between the west and Russia aims to get this. I've seen it all before. I knew by 1983 that the US intended to invade the Middle East. They spent billions around the region, the North Africa and the Indian Ocean developing harbour facilities, air bases and prepositioned stocks of ammo and spares. They had 330,000 troops allocated to CENTCOM and training for war in the Middle East. The public who pay for all this knew nothing. The US had to wait till 1990 when Saddam invaded Kuwait to activate plans which had been developed years earlier. They not only scrupulously avoided deterring Saddam from invading, but US ambassador Glaspie had actually given him a green light. Something similar is happening now. As usual the public are the only ones who know nothing. Since the end of the Cold War the US has been following a number of policies to gain a decisive strategic advantage over Russia. ABM systems combined with PGS technology are intended one day to give the US the nuclear monopoly it dreams of. The US has interfered in the internal politics of countries like Ukraine and Georgia to support Russophobic elements to isolate Russia from its neighbours and reduce its influence. I remember when Shakashvilli overthrew the elected government of Georgia by mobs, then held an unmonitored election to 'democratise' himself, the BBC correspondent saying "That he won 98% of the vote shows how much the people love him". Yeah, right, spreading democracy or western power and influence?
This is what happens when you don’t spend enough on your military and need the US to cover your ass.
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You do realize that Poland, Romania, the Baltic states, Hungary have their own well equipped armies too?
He does but he talks about war zones between NATO and Russia. And these lands would be on the middle of it.
I came to comment section for this.
All those countries are walk-through's or shall I say run-through's. No problem for Russia. History backs it up
@@lukaslt9094 LoL yeah they'll be fighting with nuclear weapons. If that's the case then why even mention the number of soldiers. And BTW these days all European countries are capable of developing nukes, the reason they don't is because of NATO.
@@lukaslt9094 You are out of your mind if you that nukes will be used in this potential conflict.
It's amusing how strong we used to think Russia was. At this point, Russia would be fortunate to maintain it's statehood
It’s easy to look weak when you have 65% of the world against you. It’s not that Russia is weak, really.. it’s more that they just don’t have the spirit to fight this war. If the USA or Ukraine where the ones who invaded Russia I bet you they would be looking a lot stronger. No one wants to fight a old politicians fight. These Russians are too westernized now. I doubt Russia will survive this conflict. As this will be the first domino falling. Once it reaches the end and they are all knocked down, Russia will be surrounded by nato and will have no choice. Which is actually sad as I do not support nato at all.
Its not because Russia is weak, its because Ukraine is strong
The way things are going Ukraine might chase them all the way back to Moscow!
Russia is kinda untouchable considering their nuclear weapons that legally they are allowed to use in the case of defending russian lands. (These are tactical nukes btw, not cataclysmic.)
@@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Ukraine isn't even winning in a defense of their own country my guy.
Never did I think that in my 20s, I'd be watching someone casually draw battle lines on youtube; explaining to the general public, and myself, that war is just a give and take. With missiles, tanks, guns, and IED, sure, but a give and take none the less.
Now it's all started.
Tbh you never thought that because you're in your 20s but in reality about 20 years ago similar discussions were being had over Iraq. About 10 years ago the same discussions were being had over Georgia. Or Syria. You've gotten numb to war but it's been here literally the entire time.
Watching this after the invasion. Jesus Christ
Well when you think about it, people our age have been living in fear of war our entire lives. I’m 21 and ever since I was 12 I’ve always wondered when wwiii would start
Some how Bucegi mountain portal is involved. USA wants it. under no circumstances will it be allowed russia take over as they did the tunnels under Ukraine..
Russia's wildest best case win is gaining influence over all of east bank and southern ukraine; Nato's wildest best case win is resolving all the frozen conflicts to their favor. While an interesting use of game theory, the actual red and blue lines are 1000 miles to the east of where you've drawn them. From this you'd actually conclude the american troops are actually pointless
Yes, barring the actual existence of actual magic Russia lacks the logistical capacity to wage war that far West. It's actually iffy if Russia could even reach say Kiev with sufficient troops what with their lack of transport. I suspect that Russia's intent would be to secure the Donbas and Luhansk regions and perhaps try to sieze Odessa.
@@rekke41 thats why they have troops in Belarus.. from border, its 2hour drive to Kiev...
ronpaul_2008 - fact is Russia does not have any best case wins - if it takes east bank of the Dniper it cannot afford a long and protracted war of attrition and cost that will be needed to maintain occupancy and 120,000 troops is not enough for that - game theory, my ass
@@JaM-R2TR4 - Putin has troops in Belarus mainly to quell the dissent against Russia and its puppet Lukashenko that has surfaced there before as well his latest antics are to show the Russians he is still a strong leader and gain some popularity points although all his attempts to divide and conquer Europe are kind of back firing - he's going to lose this game badly is my opinion
@@JaM-R2TR4 2 hours by road, the north of Ukraine is forest and Pripyat seamps, so frankly south and east would cost less than north.
The token presence of US troops is expected, plus a too large presence has time and again proven to be detrimental in Europe. The negotiation lines are a novelty to me and I'm glad I got to learn of this. Thanks 😁
If enough of those guys die it will force our hand. However it also might incentive other countries to supply troops as well.
In 1961 when I was stationed in France and in Germany, it was said that the Soviet Union could at any moment roll across the borders in Europe through Germany, and those stationed there would have a rough time holding up against such an all out conventional attack. However, it was expected that the United States and other allies would quickly react to this scenario. There are plans in place for such an event. The presence of NATO troops is an overt warning to Russia that many more can arrive very quickly and at the best places to counter any such Russian aggression.
It reminds me of Churchill asking the French how many British troops France would need in the event of a German invasion. "Just one." replied the French "And we will see to it he is killed.""
That’s amazing. Do you know a source for it?
@@Gametheory101 oh yes, I was there. When a frenchmen said it.
You really believe its 3000. The US Cannot disclose the actual number or real location of deployment. Its a secret.
@@Gametheory101 Just trust him
@@maydate86 yes. I don't believe that number too. It's classified.
Good reason why Russia mobilize their army and encircled the border, she feels threatened. If it's for exercise you don't need to bring every arsenals but Russia did bring all of it.
Poland: ah shit here we go again😔
we in Poland think the same - once again weak and disarmed west Europe pushes us to fight land hungry tyrans ... change will be that we would this time fight as second and not on two fronts ;) so there is hope
Jokes aside, Poland is way stronger these days from what it used to be before ww2.
Poland frigging hates Russia. Too much history of war between the two and hate for being under a Russian regime during the cold war. I believe Poland would fight like hell.
@@BiancaTallarico 100% true
@@Byrzzaa Poland is the weakest militarily in its history. It is so weak that in this video no one even considered our army.
Polska to pierdolony zdechlak pod respiratorem, teraz wojna toczy się na wschodzie naszego prawdziwego kraju. Ukraina to jedna z prowincji upadłej Rzeczypospolitej.
Man I am a Pole and I tell you that Poles are first to fight. If Russians decide to attack us, then they will have a big problem. People underestimate Polish strength.
😂
Nobody will survive when bombs start dropping... innocent lives will be lost
@@Adam-gf3jg You know it costs money to fight a war. Russia is broke man. Appreciate the help from the US of course, but the rest of NATO alone would put up a hell of a fight IMO. Peace.
I am a brit and would stand shoulder to shoulder with the Poles and Lithuanians, they have a historic and deep hatred of Russian aggression, this hatred will give them the phycological advantage. Lets hope peace will prevail but if Putin kicks off I think he will be shocked at the hatred levelled towards his troops.
@@jrsleao Laughing emojis is disrespectful, WWll was a long time ago. If I had the choice I would choose to fight alongside a Polish soldier rather than a Portuguese one!
Thank you for sharing your insights. I had the exact problem at a recently family reunion in sharing my lasagna at the gathering. Had I seen your video I could’ve better come to terms with the predicament.
Lol
I hope you didn't lose too many family in the ensuing, obviously implied, war.
There are tens of thousands of U.S. troops in Europe already. They are not using them as a trip wire, but as a deterent. Your interpretation is outmoded.
And this (expert) forgot one huge thing. Poland Ukraine and others DO NOT want to live under Russian rule again. And Russia's population and Russia itself is not what it is used to be. They could not win a conventional War stay NATO. Only using Nukes. And then everyone loses. Vladimir is not that stupid. Stand up to him.He likes a fight.
Definitely
NATO vs Russia ... this guy has no idea what he is talking about
@@sangbeom6245 ,He totally forgot about the "will" of the people. They don't want a Soviet lifestyle anymore. NEITHER DO WE !!!!
@@earljohnson2113 But you forgat to mention almost 40 percent Ukraine population will support Russia.And that is by west statistic,if we look at Russian,number is higher.
Now is different story why in CNN you never gonna hear about people in Ukraine who support Russia.
You know when Russia come to Crimea there was 20 000 Ukraine soldier,they give them two options,first to leave Crimea or to stay ger citizenship and serve in Russia army,just google it how much choose first options.Only 6 000,rest of them stay.People on West side of country hate Russia but people on East are support them.
Remember when 50 Finnish soilders destroyed over 50k Russian men during the winter war, don't underestimate soilders even if it is in small numbers
remember when one Finnish sniper in the snow killed 500 soviets with out a scope
That was before the Soviet juggernaut that crushed Nazi Germany. But yea the Finns were badass
@walter matter
remember the motto
keep throwing more people at them until they run out of bullet
@@horacecunningham7832 it was more like the zombie hordes from world war z. I played my fair share of call of duty, gimme rpg's and I'm takin out T72s for breakfast lunch and dinner, gonna go kiss my cats goodbye.
@@tokumo2190 that’s a lie
To all those salty that this is such an American-centric view. I didnt watch the whole video, but I am familiar with this topic because it often comes up and offends people. It makes America seem like it's regarding itself as the only hope for Europe, but really this isnt what it's getting at. It isn't dismissing the Nato Member states and their contribution to mutual security, the video focus is on the USA vs Russia because the implication is nuclear war. There is no such thing as a conventional conflict between NATO coalition and Russia. Remember that. It's the assumption that leads us back to America and Russia as the two countries with fully developed nuclear capabilities, including a retaliatory "second strike" capability guaranteed by a nuclear triad with global reach. Only the US and Russia have this sort of Armageddon nuclear capability in their own right. France and the UK could devastate Russia as well, but the nuclear playing field, so to speak, would not be level in this instance. Russia would have a clear strategic advantage here in that they could theorize winning a nuclear war if America was completely out of the picture whatsoever. Because of this, it's logical that America is the main balancing force in Europe. Again, it's purely nuclear war calculus and not an affront to any nation's conventional military forces. I know NATO states bordering Russia are well-prepared now. Their militaries are modern and likely to be extremely combat effective because of the resolve of the nations to not endure another occupation. It is admirable and we ought to commend the professionals that keep smaller countries postured for defense at a moment's notice. But it just isn't part of this discussion.
That's why these NATO countries are strategically irrelevant for the purposes of this kind of exercise. If bullets fly, so will missiles. No disrespect to Hungary, Romania, Poland, the Baltic countries, or any other country, but this is a theoretical nuclear exchange. These tripwire troops are there not because they're better than then host country's forces but because their presence is a pact signed in blood. If American soldiers are attacked by Russian forces, America will be forced to respond. In this way, Russia will not meddle or aggressively posture towards these border countries who happen to be NATO member states.
The United States airforce alone has more planes then all the other nato countries combined and the United States Navy has the second largest airforce in the world. America is 70% or natos strength.
@@patrickbateman2869 Another good point. There exists overwhelming numbers of technologically and operationally superior NATO units. Russia is measured in their attack. They know the hands of NATO are mostly tied, but we can expect tens of thousands of Ukrainian freedom fighters to conduct guerrilla operations against occupation force. Attrite the Russian occupying force, destroy materiel. These brave Ukrainians who will fight and die in their homeland will be equipped with a lot of excellent infantry anti-tank weapons. They can fly small drones to attack grounded Russian military aircraft or other airforce assets such as vehicles, fuel dumps, ammo dumps, etc. So much is possible with the resources NATO countries have at their disposal.
Putin thinks he will be written about in history books. Who will be left to write those books? We must draw on our strength as free countries and open our doors to Ukrainians who will need the full support of the West. If we are going to be the force for morality, we must do this for them in their hour of need. Keep families together, shelter them and provide employment. It's the Free World vs. The Authoritarians
@@Chironex_Fleckeri I think the UK and France together have enough nuclear weapons to end the world on their own - toss in a few hundred more from Russia and there pretty much wouldn't be a livable planet left anyway
@@fiverareblanks no not really all the first world would be destroyed but humanity would by no means be extinct.
@@patrickbateman2869 Is USA going to bring all of them across the ocean? No? Then stfu.
They have something you’re right they are retreating back to the same line they came from😂
What makes you imagine that Poland and Romania are incapable of resisting Belorus and Russia? Transnistria would be the first to go, followed by everything that Stalin stole in 1939... Putin would not last for long.
History
🤣if your say so, Russia only know how to smash and anyone in there way get smashed
@@ct0903 Afghanistan??? Also Russia got obliterated in WW2. Ten times the losses of any nation. That had nothing to do with military power and everything to do with using civilians as cannon fodder. It was a victory of circumstance.
@@sychoboy12345 (with Russian accent) No brother Russia smash o.k
@@BirdsR so you think 🤣 lmfao what is America going to do with 3000 troops ? Nothing that's right nothing !!!! America are a spent force fighting here there everywhere your military are done. Russia smash you.
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There is some truth in this video, in regards to the purpose of US troops in Europe. However, you are not taking into consideration Article 5. If Russia invaded Poland or Romania, then the US would be obligated to declare war on Russia, regardless if there were any US troops in those countries or not. The US could withdrawal ALL US forces from these countries, and would still declare war on Russia per Article 5 if they were to be invaded. So the purpose of these US forces is not to be bait or a tripwire, but the purpose is to show Russia the unity of the NATO Alliance. Russia can not divide and conquer if there is no division. The overall strength of NATO is a much greater deterrent then a few thousand troops from any country. The US forces currently in Europe, along with the tens of thousands of other NATO troops there as well, is enough to counter the current Russian build-up, until each side reenforces of course.
Atricle 5 could be tested, not many NATO countries would engage, therefore it would failed the test, and NATO would collapse.
@UTubeFekUrself Bloody lies are being propagated and gas lighting. The treaty is Ukraine will never join NATO and NaTO forces near Ukraine are barred and that is current day demand of Putin simple ..
@UTubeFekUrself If American troops die in Ukraine they die in vain. So they don't go there. Also if war breaks out I find it amusing American hipocracy and arrogance, the evil, they funded and created like Taliban or Al Qaeida made us run away and you want to face Russian hypersonic missiles and nuclear Missiles ..I know Dems election is near but stop kidding both leaders and Military are NOT fools till today they actually protected each other ..
@@granand , what are you talking about, there's no treaty in existence about limiting NATO expansion or Ukraine joining NATO.
The Budapest Memorandum signed on 1994 on Security Assurances refers to three identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994 to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of nuclear weapons. The memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers: Russian, the United Kingdom, and the United States. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents...
According to the memorandum, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of nuclear weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would:
1. Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to influence their politics.
4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments.
Russia signed this on 1994 and it has broken the agreement.
Russia should follow these rules as they signed and agreed...
@@granand no they are sent to die. It is theirs purpose.
Thats why they sent 3000 solders only. Enough, if they die, US will have to escalate, too few to intimate the enemy.
Why did Leonidas bring only 300? It's not to win, but to hold the line to give other time to rally.
But the events of the last 9 months have shown this to have been over kill, as the Russian Bear has embarrassed itself on the battlefield.
The reason they only have 3000 troops is because it’s not our country do you have the entire NATO backing our troops and if we had a buildup of a larger force it would allow Russia to take a more defensive stance feeling more threatened by an abundance of troops from the US that are not on their home territory and potentially themselves building up for an invasion the low Troop amount is to avoid tension increase as well as reduce mistakes made by those troops as the more true star the more mistakes can be made
Exactly. This game theory guy is pulling facts out of his opinion hole
difference between "looking dangerous" and "being dangerous".Russia describes military doctrine as defensive military doctrine. With regard to nuclear weapons specifically, Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons: in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it or its allies,in case of aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened.
oops
google russia deadhand
The 'Perimeter' system, dubbed in the United States and Europe the 'Dead Hand', is an automatic control system for a retaliation nuclear strike. To put it simply, if Russia's territory is devastated after a nuclear attack, the Perimeter system automatically strikes the enemy's territory with its own nuclear missiles.
I think your opinion and William spaniel's opinion is in one direction. Sending small troops to avoid tension increase whilst baiting the opposition to strike first.
The reason they send 3000 troops is to fool the idiots who votes for demented politicians like Biden and Johnson domestically. There exists no kind of geostrategic sense to it at all. I KNOW that NATO would not react in the slightest whatever Russia does. They have 5000 bureaucrats in their HQ in Brussels. That proves that NATO has no ability to ever make any kind of decision. And that is good, because NATO has always been humiliatingly defeated in every conflict they ever have involved themselves in! No matter how weak their opponent has been.
Great thinking. And Putin is getting a bit unbalanced, provoked as he is by England and the U.S. War is unthinkable, and Putin never said that he would invade. The narrative was fabricated by the Anglos. The U.S. and U.S. corporate news are desperate to trigger war. The danger is: once a narrative for the invasion is created - making it as if the invasion is already a Reality - it will almost certainly become Reality! U.S. dreams of exhausting Russia to then strike at it. Stay out of it, U.S. criminal empire. No one wants war; Russia wants some security, nothing else. As you see below, Ukraine has a different narrative.
"French President Emmanuel Macron is meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow today in hopes of de-escalating tensions over Ukraine. Macron will meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv on Tuesday. This comes as the Biden administration continues to warn of a possible attack on Ukraine by Russian forces and as U.S. officials reportedly said over the weekend Russia now has 70% of the necessary combat forces in place to invade. Following the comments from Washington, Ukraine’s foreign minister told Ukrainian citizens, “Do not believe the apocalyptic predictions.” The U.S. has also ramped up its arms transfer to Ukraine and sent troops to NATO allies in Eastern Europe and Germany in recent days."
Some people seem to forget the countries we are protecting have there own soldiers as well.
You forget we have an idiot running the USA and his democrati government, we're screwed!
@@spi9177 Trump maybe better
Exactly.
Because everyone knows in video game logic
One squad of 4 soldiers can easily take down 100,000 Russian troops
Oof, this video didn't age well. Move that NATO line up to the Russian border.....
The USA knows the former USSR territory, and it will be a very hard case to enter in Ukraine …when in history in 1991 Ukraine had its independence from Russia , but is considered as a former USSR colony , that’s why they place troops around the 1945 treaty…at behind the lines…which was the legitimate Cold War agreement.
NATO can’t amend this treaty …otherwise it’s a full on war between East and West , which has significant impact on Germany and Eastern European nation , like Poland …
Avoiding and establishing old rules treaty is the best security and stability to these regions..
If NATO amend this act , it will destroy all the deals made in nuclear proliferation.
Emmanuel macron is very intelligent and knows the risk we are dealing with… even the Mossad knows and decides to stay away…
"If NATO amend this act , it will destroy all the deals made in nuclear proliferation."
Well that would be terrible... cos Russia would just drop their non-proliferation agreements too... ohh wait!
When Ukraine, and neighbors are asked No no not to start war, then one US soldier each, stationed in Poland and Romania would do the task.
Your English is *****.
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Sorry but the second part is complete nonsense. You really think Russia would be able to push an inch into NATO territorry? NATO spends more than 30X more on defense. Such a war would be end for Russia (conventional war), or the end of the world (nuclear war).
This video made me LOL. The area between those 2 lines are called sovereign states and there is no way in hell will their borders change short of a nuclear war. The will never be negotiated away. To say that the goal of IR is to negotiate away other countries in order to prevent war is just silly. States can only be counted on doing one thing....and that is what's ever in their best interest. Poland will fight and the US will help. This war will not end until Russia is pushed back to their original boarders. Those 3,000 additional troops are a JTF capable HQ. A Joint Task Force HQ is capable of running an entire theater of war. That is no joke. You're entire theory here is simply wrong....no offense. As someone who helped write the national defense strategy for Russia and the "stans" in my previous life I can attest while your theory is vaguely interesting its way off.
Agreed. This video is tripe.
I agree he treats it like a video game.
We already have around 70k troops in nearby europe.
Facts :
A story of 900 Filipino Soldiers who defeated 40,000 Chinese and North Korean forces on the hills of Yultong.
General Douglas MacArthur once praised the gallantry and supreme tactical skills of Filipino soldiers during World War II: “Give me 10,000 Filipino soldiers and I will conquer the world.”
not to brag or anything but we are talking about Europe not Asia
Is this true? Wow i didnt know
@@Medussa357 yes its true lmao
@@Kraut_7 whats so funny
@@Medussa357 nothing just to make my comment not sounding like a angry guy or smthin
Imagine if Poland had its own army though, USA brain to the max
That nice drawing of borders is so cute, it's almost like then they drew the lines in Africa or the US but you forget that borders in the EU are most if the time drawn by geography and population
Also countries in the EU have their standing armies and equipment, yes not as much as the US or Russia or China, but there is spending, also strategy also revolves around terrain not just numbers, remember WW2 sluggish war where they had to move river by river
The truth of the matter is everything is complicated
With the amount and quality of technology in today’s military equipment, terrain is no longer an issue. Look at OEF in Afghanistan, we would have a small platoon get surrounded by hundreds of enemy fighters holding the advantageous high ground, and that platoon would win. With AC-130 gunships, predator drones, and A-10 Warthogs all providing close air support, any advantage they could possibly have was utterly meaningless. In fact, the US military is already working toward completely removing humans from combat roles in the next 50 years. Realistically, terrain has been a nonissue in the outcome of any battle since Desert Storm.
@@byewhobayou8868 Ok, there are a bunch of issues here. For one, this deals only with Game Theory. Game Theory is not the best predictor of outcomes because it assumes outcome maximizing behavior to the exclusion of all else. However, its unfair to hold the OP's Game Theory analysis to factors not considered by Game Theory itself such as tactics, terrain, and culture.
Second, the OP wasn't saying that these lines were actually the expected gains by the two sides. (It's hard to see NATO giving up 4/5ths of a member state's territories.) This was an example for the purposes of explaining Game Theory, not as an actual prediction of behavior.
The other issue is that Terrain is still supremely important in warfare. Afghanistan is a false example because the technological differences were far more massive than they would be in a European War. Regardless, the impenetrable mountainous terrain meant that the strongest military in the world was unable to find and eradicate the Taliban in 20 years of conflict. Compare with Iraq where the insurgency was defeated far more quickly. Terrain does still matter.
@@braxon I’m not sure what you’re referring to. I didn’t take this theory as a true indication of a potential outcome to a potential scenario. However, on the subject of terrain, it really isn’t that important anymore. Afghanistan is a great indicator of overcoming terrain, regardless of military disparities, because it proves that the challenges of terrain in past wars like crossing muddy rivers in WW2 are no longer a fight stopper. The only difference, is that this potential enemy has been able to overcome those challenges as well. Terrain, troop numbers, and even strategies are meaningless. Yes, I included strategy. It’s been proven in every battle throughout history, that no plan survives contact with the enemy. Sure,
All of the things that I mentioned could be helpful in certain scenarios, but overall, it’s not as important as what you bring to the fight and your resolve to win it.
@@byewhobayou8868 I was referring to both you and the OP bayou. If the statement clearly wasn't referring to his post an not yours, you don't need to feign confusion.
Second the Taliban didn't overcome the mountainous terrain, they used it to avoid American attacks as the Americans had substantial difficulty seeking out Taliban forces in the mountainous caves throughout the country. Accordingly, the terrain afforded the defending side an advantage over the attackers. Terrain mattered.
Regardless, with much even technology, terrain would still matter far more as air superiority and mobility differences won't be a given.
Lol you can tell this guy never been in the service. We have thousands of troops in Europe.
US has over a dozen major military installations and over 60k force in Europe (considering probably 85% are non-combatants). Europe has their own too. Ukraine is covered under the EU Defense Clause and is unofficially supported by NATO already indirectly. This guys logic is off.
That could be one way to look at it. Or take it from this perspective, Ukraine has a military, Poland has a military, Romania has a military, Estonia, Lativa etc. etc. Also, the US has what 35K in Germany, about the same in Italy (maybe less). The whole 82nd and 101st can be in country ready to go within 48 hours. the US can also be sending a message that this is a European issue and not totally a US/Russia issue.
Exactly. Also these 3,000 troops aren't just some dudes that are going to sit in trenches with rifles they are F-35 pilots, M1 Abrams tank crews, Javelin anti tank units, special forces, mortar squads, artillery crews, drone operators, engineers. But being honest US has conventional forces there simply so the non nuclear countries don't feel scared of Russia and leave NATO because everyone knows a couple days or weeks of fighting and someone will use nuclear weapons.
i was wondering about how those lines crossed ukraine but then i saw when it was uploaded...
with the performance the russians show in ukraine i think you should update this video with all three lines deeply in russia.
US mobilised 3000 armies to Ukraine but the weapons were still left in Kabul.
Donno whether JB is still sleeping or not when he sent these soldiers.
3000 armies.
😀😅😀😅
Biden will send them weapons when he feels like it, hmmmm
😁😁😁 funny.
Biden is busy getting his but wiped before he gets his ass kicked.
So ... You're predicting a partition of Ukraine and, interestingly, Moldova falling into Russia's sphere of influence.
I think Moldova would rather unify with Romania than to let that happen.
He draws just a bit of Moldova in the Russian sphere. Thats:
Transnistria, officially the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (PMR),[b] is an unrecognised breakaway state located in the narrow strip of land between the river Dniester and the Moldovan-Ukrainian border that is internationally recognised as part of Moldova. Its capital and largest city is Tiraspol.
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The present history of the region dates to 1990, amidst the disintegration of the Soviet Union, when the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic was established in hopes that it would remain within the Soviet Union should Moldova seek unification with Romania or independence, the latter occurring in August 1991. Shortly afterwards, a military conflict between the two parties started in March 1992 and was concluded by a ceasefire in July of the same year.
Moldova can't unify with Romania as Russia has troops in Transnistria, that would bring Russian troops on NATO territory.
WW3 is upon us. Last time appeasement worked was never. We tried it with Germany and they took more and more and more and we kept giving hoping to avoid war. That is what might happen here.
@@MrDICKHEAD28 NATO is not political and does not occupy.
@@MrDICKHEAD28 and Russia didnt gave Poland and Romania away. How idiotic is that thought? Did you give your ex away?
3000 troops is enough. Russia ain't nothing. USA is more powerful armies around the world so thats enough.
USA can’t even beat a Mexican boxer toe to toe and not you want to play with big daddy you got to be kidding me
Did I watch the evac from Kabul half a year ago?
I was with the 24TH Infantry, and this strategy was in play in both Korea (a little before me) and Iran. Our job was to stay alive long enough to get supplies (roughly 45 days) with about two weeks worth of ammo. The US factor also includes air superiority which means each of those US units has everything from Navy carriers to B-52 bombers behind them. The 45 day figure also included hos long we would last under the barrage of friendly fire.
To be honest, this is probably the start of world war 3, im not even kidding.
The real question is why did the us and nato involve and antagonize this attack, better yet, why did the us send any military their if they aren’t even apart of the NATO bloc?
Ukraine is in NATO ,USA is in NATO, but NATO is a joke ! - is every country for themselves :)
@@alexxenaosas2416 what???
NATO doesn't have Ukraine. NATO was started by the US. 😮💨😮💨😮💨
What are you even saying alexandru?¿? Do your research and due diligence, buddy. Ukraine is not apart of NATO in fact they aren’t even apart of the European Union, they were deemed independent from back in 2014 when the bs with Crimea went down. They are currently attempting to get a membership with the EU because the failed attempts with NATO…
And the failed attempts with joining nato is one of the security risks that Russia is fighting for… I do believe Putin is making it worst by using force, but that is why China agrees with Putin granted Russia isn’t in a war with Ukraine Putin is… until everyone agrees this world would be a better place with all nuclear weapons being holsterd it will be world war 3 with Putin not russia once the threat is eliminated then the threat is still a threat… so who is the threat? Russia? Ukraine? Putin? China? Well everyone is a threat to someone and that’s what will drag this out… I will say this isn’t ww3 this is just one bit of a distraction… ww3 will be when China and russia attack and everyone submits or dies.
While this is a decent example of how game theory works, it is no where near the reality. It’s silly to consider those countries militaries as being controlled entirely by nato, especially when their sovereignty is concerned.
Here’s another scenario: Russia finish their training and pull back.
yeah probably huh
and that will be it - the whole "imminent Russian invasion" scam is coming ONLY from Western shills - Russia does not even need to invade - it just had to wait and watch
The evac of the US embassy will look especially pathetic then
I think the Russians are building up for one massive prank on April 1st.
3000 Spartans enough to beat 100000 Persians? No, However 3000 Spartans death is enough to fire up Sparta and send all army to front line.
Actually that’s 300 Spartans and it was considered to have 1 million Persians just to correct you
@@marcusring6408 Eyehh..What's a decimal slide amongst friends? At least it comes out with the same ratio.
You need to watch it again 3x
There's a reason why America stations only 3000 soldiers in Europe. This is not a coincidence.
The white line is delusional, Russia would never be able to take Polish territory
Lookin back now it looks like the US knew how shite the Russian military was and knew 3000 soldiers could hold out at least 2 weeks against some drunk, logistic problem having, non NCO having conscripts.
The 3k marines are there to "encourage" the Ukrainians to face the firing squad from a very safe distance. 😁😁😁
The 3k marines are there to shoeshine Russian boots; imagine how stoned US soldiers be able to fight, let alone protect others.
They keep distance to have time to run
Lolz.
Marines are the strongest fighting force but let's see how this plays out
3k Rambos (Rangers). Crayon Eaters not needed... 😵💫
God...i live in Bulgaria, this video was traumatic for me :D
Don’t worry, you’re in NATO now, Russia is no real threat. 😉
Probably because the video is dumb lol
NATO would be destroyed soon...
@@Bob10009 I live in Kharkiv, 80 km from ruskies
Пропаганда. Споко. Американците са крале на манипулация4а
Poland 120000.profesiuonal 1000 tank.Plus 38000 .Nasional army.Ramania 70000 plus 25000.600 tank.Poland Romania jet plan to.wery Strong Army morale.
I think you significantly overestimated what Russia was capable of taking in a full scale war lol...
Everyone did. Including Russia.
With all the international support, Ukraine's real greatest allies are corruption and incompetence in Russian army.
So if Russia and China act at the same time then which side that US would deal first? Taiwan or Ukraine?
None US will just keep quite like a Persian cat on a sofa
both at the same time like ww2
@@changappalarny4701 yeah propaganda much😂
China isn't ready to invade Taiwan even if the US won't join.
Dude, Romania has an Army, Ukraine has an Army, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, the Czech Republic and most importantly Germany (who’s economical interests lie in the Eastern Eu) has an army, those troops (3000 US) are not alone…. This is just Putin „flexin‘ for the ‚gram“ LOL
As long Russia has its nukes nobody can touch them. Russia is not planning to invade Ukraine. That " imminent invasion" is American hoax with an endgame to stop NS2 by sanctions. Every European leader should se that now.
Just keep the Germany out of this bullshit please.
You heard wrong. Its 3,000 US helmets for Ukrainian troops !
Overtaken by events. This video hasn't aged well IMO
Why do all lines appear to the west of Russia's border? Even in failure they should gain ground?
Exactly, the whole premise is ridiculous. Russia cannot win anything other than maybe some of Ukraine’s territory.
Because 3000 is enough to win against the russian “army”
Don't worry about 3,000 US troop sent to Eastern Europe, it's enough to defeat Russian 150,000 soldiers anyway. They use forces, we use magic guns.
no one is worried about the rooskies or winnie the pooh ! we will crack the planet in half before we allow them anything!
@@giiovanni08 you couldn't beat Taliban. Bedouins with no military experience. War is not easy
If these are 3000 navy seal it is enough to beat 150000 troops
If 3000 US troops were overrun by the Russians in Eastern Europe, US voters would ask themselves:
_"- What f**king loser-fool made that decision!!! We don't want go to war with nuclear power Russia for what's its name."_
@@GEliteG there is a difference between fighting a insurgency and destroying a country.
1:23 I’ve been stationed in 3 places for about 4 years total just to serve this purpose. Especially in Korea we understood that we were a speed bump with a US flag
Glad you are still with us!
According to the Pentagon, from the beginning, NATO has 80,000 troops ready in Europe?
From a military strategic point of view, a lot of troops are needed to keep occupied ground.
Ukraine is a large country and military generals in the West estimate that about 500,000 troops are needed for the whole Ukraine.
sleep fanatic
Russia still have 900000 aktive personer in background. And 2 million who have to come. China is ally now. Also come to help russia if you gays go stupid
Not all forces are direct combatants. 80% are support capacity. This guy is dumb
EUCOM (United States European Command) has about 70,000 personnel prior to current Ukraine's security issue. 8500 has been allocated for Europe from the mainland US.
Approximately 74,000 personnel are permanently assigned to EUCOM. These include 34,000 Army personnel, 27,000 Air Force personnel, 3,000 Marine personnel, and 10,000 Navy personnel.
Most of the US military strength is allocated towards the Pacific side. The US has 1,346,400 active-duty personnel. 165,000 deployed personnel.
Polish Armed Forces consist of 114,050 active-duty personnel.
From US's POV, the European front is on lower prority compared to "Pivot to Asia".
3000 shows for sympathy europ. USA Doesn't have guts to fight with russia directly. Understand
The US doesn't want a war and neither does the rest of the world. If the US took on Russia it would be fought in Europe and then in Russia.
U.S. has 1k station at 3 corners for a reason . This strategy here is if Russia invades , they will not confront U.S. presence . Or move any more west.
This is a deterrent and invisible boundary. 1k troops stationed north, 1k stationed west, 1k stationed south this the line.
time will tell heheheeheh
Well,this theory went tits up pretty quickly.
You forget the local Poland and Romania's military. I think Poland's And Romania's combined forces cand match those 150,000 russians.
In 1991 I was talking to a group of US Army soldiers and I assured them that the US was going to mop up the Iraqi army. I predicted 100,000 Iraqi dead and 4000 US dead. They thought I was high. They said "but the Iraqi's have the best Soviet weapons" I said that I read Tom Clancy and I know what Im talking about. LOL.(really, read red storm rising) Turns out my bravado was a little understated. Looks like the Russian equipment hasnt improved much.
Poland has a big army with state of the art equipment. The American / British troops are just a show of support.
What poland would do? Join part in ukraine vs russia conflict? Thats a que for bigger war.
Ok.. And what Russia - China ? 🙋♂️🤌😎
@@indrakurniawan6359 They would do nothing. But a big, strong, modern Polish army with a show of support from British and American allies is enough to deter further escalation.
@@simonpersonaltrainer5624 we should see that in real time event. Just wait the worst to come.
@@indrakurniawan6359 I predict nothing will happen. Lots of saber rattling. But rest assured that if something did happen they wouldn't be even given a crumb of Polish Soil.
Can't apply game theory to this without understanding geopolitics, history, economies and military already stationed in Europe.
Agreed. This video is one-dimensional and lacks nearly all context. The author chops up and gives away Poland as if it was a block of cheese. This is laughable.
My thoughts during the entire video
I don't understand how people don't realize that its an example and not actually how he predicts it to play out, obviously there are other factors. The lines were drawn randomly to show an example of this concept.
Evergreen comment on all of my videos. 😆
Prior to the invasion, the US must heavily fence Ukraine with its military force to avoid Russia's
attack just for a humanitarian reason as a world's peacekeeper because we all know Ukraine's military can't parallel to Russia. I cried a lot for this conflict and pray God will intervene and stop this war.
There bringing There military to Rusias border. USA didn't like that when Rusia try to set some weapons in Cuba. Why are they being so hypocritical, imagine military bases from Rusia down in México, that would start a fucking war, and everyone would say of course that's to be expected. Then don't fucking do to other's ............. to you. USA should stop looking to make war on every fucking country. Rusia is not Irak or Afghanistan, where you can bomb the hell out of there country with no consequences. One day the dog is going to bite back and it's going to hurt alot.
Any1 with a brain can easily see that Russia simply don't want NATO surrounding them. How would you feel if you wake up tomorrow and see that your neighbors are not buddies of your enemies and having to live know that your enemies are always right next door to you? That will never sit well with any1.
There's also the point of anytime Russia (or China) wants more land, they can threaten the nuclear option, and keep expanding. Knowing Russia will do this, US can place their 3000 troops and say, go ahead and cross the line, knowing if they do.... well you know the rest. Logically it's better to take down a starving weak bear, then one that has grown strong.
Why would they threaten nuclear? If they want the land why would they use nuclear weapons. You realize that would be stupid because of the nuclear fallout and the land would be useless. So it makes no sense to do that
@@chrisoreilly3481 I don't know why Putin threatened to use the nuclear option. My best guess is he's a closet psychopath. To even suggest such a thing in his position is so beyond irresponsible it's hard to assume otherwise.
@@l0I0I0I0 psychopath....well it's not impossible
@@loyaltytothearkadianate lol. Yes politics that makes sense. I'm wondering how strong China Russian relations are along their boarder? I never hear of any drama there?
@@l0I0I0I0 I believe they had some small banter nothing much. They've had good relations for years as far as I know
I wish our media would teach news to us this way. Thankyou for what you do
U clown
This video is an absolut joke
Never underestimate the American soldiers! Black hawkdown? Saving private ryan? Those 3000 soldiers could wipe out a country i sh't you not!
❤ from 🇨🇦
Without having seen this set of lines, I have previously commented on other threads that Russia would stop at the Dniper, in the event of an invasion. The game scenario described here seems to almost make that advance a certainty.
It would be like Germany in half east Ukraine and west Ukraine
Well the lines are kinda arbitrarily drawn to prove a point about game theory.
Ukraine is going to have to move the bulk there army west of Kyiv .
The Bug and the Dniepr are the geographical border between Eastern and Central Europe. The Don is the border between Russia and the Ukraine. Putin is striving to stay popular.
@@haylocktransport6695 Or sacrifice it east of the Dnieper.
I am writing this comment when it has been 4 or 5 days since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began. Russia called the bluff and the Russian army is now at the gates of Ukraine! Though Ukrainians are putting up a staunch fight for their homeland and their independence. Kudos to them.
Как независимость там бандыревцы и фашисты
Людей используют как живой щит
Ты не понимаешь просто нечего европейц
Донбасс 8 лет был под огнем всу и фашистов
Независимость какая говори мне в чем мы просто бьем фашистов и всу и только их, а не мирных граждан . Независимость украины не было им управляет НАТО с америкой откуда подумай наемников много и ракетниц
Not to make light of anything, I just want want to say that this presentation seemed to get a bit darker (at least to me). It seems that one nation might leave the tip of the spear to die so that the rest can follow. I'm just glad that we have men and women willing to lay down their lives for the greater good.
Great lecture as always.
Honestly 100 US troops could probably hold down Russia now.
In the words of LT Dick winters, “we’re paratroopers…we’re supposed to be surrounded”!!
no its different time those days the 101st and 82nd airborne division were bunch of tough guys with lack of equipment and supply could held the nazi. but nowadays those division its filled with LGBT people who more concern about pride month rather than training with hard condition like E company with CPT Sobel. it will be very unbalance if LGBT Paratroops have to fight with Russian more over if the Russian its From Siberia
@@ruselladler425 You personally know the people in these divisions or are you just making assumptions.
@@notxarbsenoj9231 not assumptions just look at their official Publication account
@@ruselladler425 Again making assumptions their are thousands hundreds of thousands of soldiers. Why do you care anyway?
@@notxarbsenoj9231 Not Really care actually just funny to see how come the most legendary division in US Army Become Division with political issues such as LGBT. and umm i love to follow Such a Military social media not just those i Mention but also several Division and Regiment just for fun and bit a Research. I dont really hope those Division have to fight with Russian since if that happend would be end of the world.
Your land tradeoff analogy however also misses the key point. Russia isnt interested in slices. It wants the whole cake. It may justify defeat by just annexing the slices it stole already , but slices dont help it.
Russia has a set of bigger possible aims.
Seizing the whole Ukraine changes the strategic geography of Europe . His tanks are better placed to threaten 7 NATO states and target more with his missiles if they move forward.
NATO is weakened and either has to rearm and return US forces, or it will be far more vulnerable. Its a bad move - because it may just see NAT0 and America restore deterrence with tanks, men, Americans and the missiles Putin fantasises about.
Secondly , the threat to the regime is the political and economic success of the former Soviet states compared with failing Russia, Its not the threat of being attacked by them - which is ridiculous. You gain nothing by removing a slice of one example, your strategy needs the old wall of failing states between the Kremlin and western Europe. The problem is you cant control one resisting Ukraine let alone the whole of the Warsaw pact states.
Putin is relic of the Soviet Union and cold war. Its posssible he just thinks he can restore the good old days.
Its domestcally driven. Theres internal pressure on Putin to act and a need to divert attention from economic and covid failure. So he's reinvented the non existant external threat - because its what the dictators manual says to do.Once stsrted , he looks weak if he walks away from doing something even more counterproductive and stupid.
You
You are making assumptions or just echoing what US propagandist say even though it's all lies. Russia has the right to ensure the safety of their country.
Economic and covid problem in Russia??? Had Russia not produced a vaccine when Trump was telling Americans to drink bleach
@@jaismohamad1497 okay Mr. Russian supporter. I am sure Putin doesn't even want a nuclear war. He said it himself in a conference with the French president. We should just hope that there is no war breaking out at all.
Your key point is baseless because it is based on conjecture and personal bias.
If the Russians instigated a coup and changed the Kiev government then you have a basis.
Obviously you ignore this key event in 2014, where its the US that's the aggressor. No wonder the neo cons still survive in the State dept . Despite a clear track record of regime change and false flags there are still gullible people without concern for the unintended consequences of wars.
Ask the Germans who thought they were so strong after beating France and England they thought they could invade Russia(USSR). You guys don't know shit about Russia amd still rely on faulty and false information.
Putin has done nothing to restore old Soviet glory. He has criticized the Soviet era. Neglecting to understand or acknowledgr that the Soviets succeeded where the Czars failed.
You think the Russian economy is failing ...thats silly.the Russian GDP is the 6th largest in the world by PPP which which is significant for a country that has never been helped by the West and for a country with only 150 million people. Has no track record of overthrowing countries and stealing their oil and gold. Their 6th place means it accounts for inflated exchange rate of the US dollar and the political devaluation of an economy that is not in debt , has a budget surplus, substantial gold reserves and tremendous natural resources. The Germans favored by tbe west has freelancers to markets and naturally sells products doesn't make any of the heavy equipment that tbe Russians have produced.
The Russians have produced 38 heaby and sophisticated Ice Breakers and the US has 1? So your perceptions of Russian economy is flawed.
Without Russian technology and financing the economies of India and China wouldn't be where they are now.
China recently flew a hypersonic glide plane. The dishonest article that highlighted the event failed to mention that the Russians already have the hypersonic missile. Like everything else dont you think Russians may have shared that technology?
The Russian have strong links with a country that has 4 times the population of the US? I.e. 4 times the market.
China is also the world's largest economy since 2017.
You are wrongly informed and base your conclusions on false assumptions ...typical
I was saying what on earth the purpose of the 3000 sacrificial soldiers, russia artilary division gun will wipe them out in two seconds.
Really, Russian can't even nuetralise Afghan now your challenging a well trained soldiers of the US? WTF!
@@DOI_ARTS not only russians were kickout of afghanista even the US & NATO forces too. Stop bragging about it. Do you know how many western & nato forces died in afghanistan? They are well-trained soldiers.
Salute to them !
An issue with applying the bargaining model is that the expected outcome of fighting and costs to both sides have to be common knowledge. I think it's self-evident that decision-makers are often delusional about the expected outcome of fighting (which only compounds the genuine uncertainty).
To be fair, that 3,000 are more then enough when air power of the US gets involved.
Russia is not a Iraq or Afghanistan? In case of US direct involvement in war with Russia.. .. there will blood and smoke in US also..... US civilians will also taste the war they loved and longed
Russia has more than enough tech and air defense to stop any real U.S airpower. They have the U.S beat in Missile defense, theirs is second to none right now. It's really the only tech they have poured all of their development in since the collapse, that and radar jamming technology. The entire U.S stealth fleet is a spec of dust when compared to the size of the Russian continent. U.S helicopter doctrine is also worthless when every russian squad is equipped with those nasty MANPAD systems. It would be a very dirty and bloody war fought mostly on the ground and with drones, The U.S does not like watching it's pilots shot down on tictok. Nukes would absolutely be used. We know it, and they know it.
@@saltMagic Russia lags heavily when it comes to technology, their basically only started to update their equipment after the 2010s.
Turkey shot two of their fivhter jets few years ago in Syria and they were unabke to do anything. Their s400 anti air defense missiles is a joke as Israel has been taking out targets in Syria despite their so mighty anti air defense systems.
@@best5345 They shot one, air to air on the border.. a frogfoot. And they got them back by shooting down a cobra.. on video.
If they did invade, they will engulf those tiny nations in few days. Russia have many weapons that world do not know. As a person who lives in Africa, I suggest both sides to negotiate, other wise you will suffer like you haven't seen ever.
You must think The United States Of America is a walk in the park…… we have technology that we don’t discuss… unlike these other countries who love to Flex, we keep shit on the down low. America will absolutely CRUSH the rest. Bet
@@joshpinson007 America is a bully and america thinks she can do whatever she wants wherever she is well I let Gos judge them .
Both countries have higher weapon jets and so on the reason why is because both Russia and America are the highest seller of weapon in all thing except America also sales navy fleets and Russia sales better rifle
Eyca School. - you can try to negotiate but there is an impasse so the next step to avoid invasion is to bring up ALL your military - basic 101 warfare - stop being a weenie
@@sandwicheman9772 - this has nothing to do with sales of weapons - get lost bobo
This is a contemporary joke from 1918, when Americans still were farmers and cowboys and not think tankers and pod casters:
American general: "- This is what we have to do and this is how we must do it!"
French general: "- Yes, that all sounds very practical. But how would it work in theory?"
You think were all weak and soft? Our hunters alone could take most small countries lol. All you see is what the news feeds you.
@@Fartrellcluggins69 The world sees how NATO fled in panic from Afghanistan, after 20 years of occupation, and left all of their weapons behind. Because the corruption and crimes spiked more than ever in Afghanistan's history during the occupation. NATO has neither any ability, nor any credibility anymore. Please try to take a look at reality once in a while, and try to accept it ahead of your ideological fantasies from the 1990s.
@@bjorntorlarsson you are so confused its not even funny. Youre talking about nato as if its the us. It is not. We are part of it but thats all. And we did pull out of afghanistan...after 20 years. But youve failed to mention how russia took off in just under ten. You are clueless. The american war machine is #1 and you know it.
@@Fartrellcluggins69 It is only the US that has any military force. NATO in Europe has tiny low budget military. And most of their leaders don't care the least squat about Ukraine. Or about Taiwan for that matter. NATO will soon cease to exist.
The US has sent all of its industry to China(because idiots like you thought that if we make the Chinese communist party rich, then they will become Americans!), has spent the last 30 years in humiliatingly failed small wars and is thus now behind China and Russia in things like advanced missiles. Because you didn't need modern missiles to meaninglessly kill analphabets in Central Asia. The US is financially bankrupt and in an escalating domestic social disaster.
How come it is who hard for you to accept a total failure and realize that the only thing to do now is to accept ones own weakness and retreat? You would be the worst kind of troop leader who would order an obvious slaughter with your mental malfunction as only justification.
I wish it had been different, but it isn't. So we need to accept reality and go from here.
@@bjorntorlarsson You do know the Earopean powers combined probbably have the 3rd or 4th Strongest military alone, Not including working together.
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I disagree with his analysis📝🧐
I’m a vet & I’ve never witnessed any conflict besides “CIVIL WAR” where🇺🇸fighting without any allies.
NATO are a combination of many countries contributing ARMIES, EQUIPMENTS, ETC…
btw thats 3000 on top of the 70,000 U.S. troops are permanently stationed in Europe.
Useless since they are mostly non combatant
@@rofigueroa08 Airplane/helicopters don’t load or maintenance them selfs
Spartans 3,000 rise up!
*Captain Miller aggressively planning traps involving mines, explosives, sticky bombs, and planted machine guns*
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It is all about strategic flow of goods. Russia already achieved everything; cut the silk road through Ukraine and Bialorusia to Poland and control the road through Kazakhstan to Hungary. It'll not be any invasion of Ukraine, why to risk cutting NS2?
Only way to Russia step in Ukraine is to Ukraine first atack rebels on the East(Ukraine are send almost 50 percent their forces who are only 30km far from rebels).
If they not atack rebels,then Russia will not send army for sure because NS2 is to important for them.
That’s why people think that the Russians will do a operation to make it look like the Ukrainian forces did it when in reality it was Russian troops. Stealing a game plan from Hitler when he invaded Poland and said polish troops were the ones that crossed the border and initiated the war. In reality it was German troops dressed as polish soldiers to make it seem reasonable for Hitler to invade Poland. Tricky situation. Do we want to have a all out conflict over Ukraine? Then China(ccp) will hit Taiwan. Almost same senario as the Japanese attack when we were focused on the war in Europe
@@judd0112 People think this because all the western media and US officials are telling them to think like that. In reality, rather, the US force their puppets in Kiev to make a real provocation and then say that it was done by the Russians. And you are already being trained to believe it. Because the United States is the only one who is interested in a war in the center of Europe and has been trying to ignite it since 2014.
@@ComradeHugo actually their not saying that at all
@@ComradeHugo in fact Biden is calling for Americans to evacuate Ukraine, all I've heard about invasions is the same thing about both sides and that is that Russia will invade Ukraine and that Ukraine will invade Russia.
Sometimes I wonder. Why do some people don't think before putting crap on TH-cam. The US sent 3000 soldiers to Poland and Romania. It's a sign of support to those countries. If Putin plays a fool and attacks US soldiers. The Apache helicopters and the F 35 would take the sky immediately. The military fought war, using a technique called combine approach, the birds in the air, the whales on the ocean, and on the ocean floor. So if you think, 3000 US soldiers near the battlefield without support think again
A couple of years ago there were 27 US soldiers in Syria where they base, and 300 Russian mercenaries approaching the base firing shots and the soldiers. They called back, the F16s and the Apaches didn't show mercy. In less than an hour over close to 200 dead.
If I recall right a President can call up a force of 100,000 troops to deploy without actually going to Congress to declare war. That's from any branch of the services.
The US only has 90 thousand in their army..... 30 thousand are sitting in South Korea ....
@@willrobinson9767 I thought there's 1 million?
@@sharvenkevin1699 No there is a million in their military.... 500 or 600 thousand of those are in the Navy..... The army is what I said..
@@willrobinson9767 ah. That makes a lot of sense. Tbh, that's pretty low. I thought its gonna be in the millions. Well, thanks for correcting me
@@sharvenkevin1699 They still don't have a draft or mandatory service...... Never going to be very big just relying on volunteers...