No It has nothing to do with insecurities. Sure there is always the one who truly hates women but it's about believability. Truth is there are limits about what you can protray as a man/woman. It is completely uncontroversial to say that for men since nobody would like to see Arnold Schwarzenegger try to play a ballerina but we somehow must accept a 100 lbs woman throwing men around. It's the tired old accusation that is so popular in Hollywood to throw around. When in doubt cry misogyny. Ripley was a great character because she was NOT a female Rambo. She is not as capable as a guy and that is exactly what makes female protagonists interesting in the first place. They have to use their brain instead of their muscles. Otherwise I would just watch a Schwarzenegger movie. The comment about denigrating men is true. In most Hollywood movies these days the writer try to prop up a female character not on her own merits but by trying to make her look better in contrast to a man. It's not the people commenting on your videos who are misogynysts it's Hollywood who thinks that a woman can only be strong by essentially stripping her of all femininity. And that is what people are pointing out. It is not a coincidence that Captain Marvel is protrayed as more stoic than most male action heroes. Femininity is seen as weak and something non desirable for a woman in such a role. Ripley is a great character exactly because she overcame adversity. Because she was he weaker one yet used her intelligence to overcome those obstacles. In addition to that she played a very motherly role for Newt. Something rarely seen these days. So he proved exactly the opposite with his video.
I appreciate the video, but I couldn't disagree more with your take. It's not insecurity or misogyny. The men who loved Rilpey's character but despise modern "super women" do so because the writing sucks and characters like Rey never earned a single win in any of their interactions. The sex of the character has always bedn irrelevant to audiences. The agenda in modern media is what makes these films and characters so offensive to us. Princess Leia, Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner and characters like them are fully fleshed out characters with vulnerabilities and their ability to overcome their challenges made them relatable and appealing. Boss babe bullshit Mary Sues are the last thing an audience with a working brain cell want to be exposed to never mind support with their increasingly scarce entertainment resources these days. You think you're supporting strong women but you're really supporting terrible writing, an anti-societal agenda, and characters that are as likeable and relatable as a feminist who thinks she's a boss babe without the need for men to help make the world go round. I love strong women, but modern films make "strong female characters" and movie scripts that are reprehensible.
Exactly. Also Ripley is anything but a female 80s action hero. He is essentially disproving himself here. Ripley is very motherly and doesn't need to be constantly portrayed as better than particularly men because the character can stand on its own. That is what people were getting at. It's the tired accusation of misogyny. Funny enough it's Hollywood who thinks femininity is something undesirable that they essentially write women like men in their movies. They are the true misogynists. Men and women are fit for different roles. So no it's not misogyny when we see something as not very belivable. Just like the other guy here pointed out someone like Schwarzenegger would be horrible in a role of a ballerina. There are limits. Ripley is just very well written and must overcome her weaknesses as a woman by using her intellect and not physical superiority. That is what makes female characters so interesting. Like when Sarah Connor escaped the psychiatry. Despite her training she knew she couldn't overpower the huge male guard that's why she had to get resourceful and used his baton to break his nose and a syringe filled with Drain cleaner.
I thank you for watching and commenting, and I’m glad you appreciated the video. However, like you said, we couldn’t disagree more on this subject-which is completely fine. Though I gotta say I find difficult to believe you when you say that “it’s not insecurity or misogyny” before going on about an “agenda in modern media” which is textbook delusional persecution, then you double down by making your point using sexist slurs. So again, thank you for watching the video, I made it for you.
@@cedricjouarie He didn't use any slurs. A girl boss is a character who doesn't experience growth and doesn't have to overcome obstacles. It's about WRITING a character. Not its sex. You didn't address any of the actual good arguments he made. You keep insisting on calling that misogyny when it's not. Yes the characters happen to be female but they would be equally badly written if they were men. Strange because we have tons of female heroes that are hailed in the fac community. Care to address ANY of his actual claims maybe instead of just deflecting?
@@MarceloKowalewski the only argument about poor writing is that heroes are poorly written in most action movies, whether they’re men or women, but it only seems to bother “you guys” in the latter category, which begs the question why. Though to be fair, it’s a rhetorical question, the answer of which can be found in the video you watched-at least in my opinion, but it’s okay to disagree 😉
No Cedric it has nothing to do with insecurities. Sure there is always the one who truly hates women but it's about believability. Truth is therer are limits about what you can protray as a man/woman. It is completely uncontroversial to say that for men since nobody would like to see Arnold Schwarzenegger try to play a ballerina but we somehow must accept a 100 lbs woman throwing men around. It't the tired old accusation that is so popular in Hollywood to throw around. When in doubt cry misogyny. Ripley was a great character because she was NOT a female Rambo. She is not as capable as a guy and that is exactly what makes female protagonists interesting in the first place. They have to use their brain instead of their muscles. Otherwise I would just watch a Schwarzenegger movie. The comment about denigrating men is true. In most Hollywood movies these days the writer try to prop up a female character not on her own merits but by trying to make her look better in contrast to a man. It's not the people commenting on your videos who are misogynysts it's Hollywood who thinks that a woman can only be strong by essentially stripping her of all femininity. It is not a coincidence that Captain Marvel is protrayed as more stoic than most male action heroes. Femininity is seen as weak and something non desirable for a woman in such a role. Mabe think next time first before throwing around those baseless insults. Ripley is a great character exactly because she overcame adversity. Because she was he weaker one yet used her intelligence to overcome those obstacles. In addition to that she played a very motherly role for Newt. Something rarely seen these days. So you proved exactly the opposite with your video.
There are so many things you wrote here that actually make my point. Some women being stronger than some men, either psychologically or physically, is not only believable, it’s just a fact of life. Arnold Schwarzenegger indeed never played a ballerina however, he did ask ballerinas to help him develop grace in his movements and postures during his bodybuilding competitions days, as seen in the film ‘Pumping Iron.’ I never cry misogyny in doubt, only when I witness misogyny. Movies for over 100 years have featured men looking better than women, and it didn’t seem to bother the very people who now can’t accept the occasional reversal of situation, which I must say I find both sad and hilarious. So if you don’t mind, let’s agree to disagree, but I do believe these reactions are absolutely based on insecurity and misogyny. And I don’t say this as an insult because I also believe it’s never too late to change. And since you watched and commented on my video, I want to sincerely thank you and congratulate you; you’ve made one step in the right direction.
@@cedricjouarie Yes exactly. But these women are super rare. That is why Gina Carano who is an MMA fighter did not face criticism. That only goes to show that it is about believable character writing in the first place. Someone you believe can fill that role. But all that has limits. No woman in Hollywood today looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger. That is nonsense and you know it. I used that example to exemplify how there are limits to each gender. You completely missed my point when you go on about Arnold getting lessons from Ballerinas. No matter how many hours he took he would never be believable. Yet we don't cass that misandry. Why? Because we aren't dumb and know that there are limits to what a certain actor can portray. I can't portray a pregnant woman as well as some other roles because I'm a man. But when people point that out about women you cling to your misogyny claim because you don't want to address the actual criticisms. Because if you dug a little deeper you would undertstand it's not about the gender in the first place. It's about WRITING. But you just seem to ignore that.
@@EbonyPope not ignoring anything. Certainly not pretending that the writing from Hollywood is without issues. I just believe you’re fighting the wrong battle. P.S.: Schwarzy played a pregnant man 😜
@@cedricjouarie Yes he played it for laughs. That was exactly my point. He played a pregnant woman because it was a ridiculous concept and would make people laugh. I was talking about believable realistic roles. Not some comedy, not some sci-fi. You completely missed the point again still haven't addressed a single argument made by me or the other guy. Just saying Hollywood writing has its problem IS EXACTLY OUR POINT. Women are essentially written as men because Hollywood sees femininity as something weak and undesirable. Again you completely missed the actual arguments and just call everything that might criticise a female character misogyny. That just simply isn't true.
@@cedricjouarie The point was that it would be seen as ridiculous. And it was. You seem to forget that said Film with Schwarzenegger was a comedy exactly proving the inital point made.
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No It has nothing to do with insecurities. Sure there is always the one who truly hates women but it's about believability. Truth is there are limits about what you can protray as a man/woman. It is completely uncontroversial to say that for men since nobody would like to see Arnold Schwarzenegger try to play a ballerina but we somehow must accept a 100 lbs woman throwing men around. It's the tired old accusation that is so popular in Hollywood to throw around. When in doubt cry misogyny. Ripley was a great character because she was NOT a female Rambo. She is not as capable as a guy and that is exactly what makes female protagonists interesting in the first place. They have to use their brain instead of their muscles. Otherwise I would just watch a Schwarzenegger movie. The comment about denigrating men is true. In most Hollywood movies these days the writer try to prop up a female character not on her own merits but by trying to make her look better in contrast to a man. It's not the people commenting on your videos who are misogynysts it's Hollywood who thinks that a woman can only be strong by essentially stripping her of all femininity. And that is what people are pointing out. It is not a coincidence that Captain Marvel is protrayed as more stoic than most male action heroes. Femininity is seen as weak and something non desirable for a woman in such a role. Ripley is a great character exactly because she overcame adversity. Because she was he weaker one yet used her intelligence to overcome those obstacles. In addition to that she played a very motherly role for Newt. Something rarely seen these days. So he proved exactly the opposite with his video.
I appreciate the video, but I couldn't disagree more with your take. It's not insecurity or misogyny. The men who loved Rilpey's character but despise modern "super women" do so because the writing sucks and characters like Rey never earned a single win in any of their interactions. The sex of the character has always bedn irrelevant to audiences. The agenda in modern media is what makes these films and characters so offensive to us. Princess Leia, Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner and characters like them are fully fleshed out characters with vulnerabilities and their ability to overcome their challenges made them relatable and appealing. Boss babe bullshit Mary Sues are the last thing an audience with a working brain cell want to be exposed to never mind support with their increasingly scarce entertainment resources these days. You think you're supporting strong women but you're really supporting terrible writing, an anti-societal agenda, and characters that are as likeable and relatable as a feminist who thinks she's a boss babe without the need for men to help make the world go round. I love strong women, but modern films make "strong female characters" and movie scripts that are reprehensible.
Exactly. Also Ripley is anything but a female 80s action hero. He is essentially disproving himself here. Ripley is very motherly and doesn't need to be constantly portrayed as better than particularly men because the character can stand on its own. That is what people were getting at. It's the tired accusation of misogyny. Funny enough it's Hollywood who thinks femininity is something undesirable that they essentially write women like men in their movies. They are the true misogynists. Men and women are fit for different roles. So no it's not misogyny when we see something as not very belivable. Just like the other guy here pointed out someone like Schwarzenegger would be horrible in a role of a ballerina. There are limits. Ripley is just very well written and must overcome her weaknesses as a woman by using her intellect and not physical superiority. That is what makes female characters so interesting. Like when Sarah Connor escaped the psychiatry. Despite her training she knew she couldn't overpower the huge male guard that's why she had to get resourceful and used his baton to break his nose and a syringe filled with Drain cleaner.
I thank you for watching and commenting, and I’m glad you appreciated the video. However, like you said, we couldn’t disagree more on this subject-which is completely fine. Though I gotta say I find difficult to believe you when you say that “it’s not insecurity or misogyny” before going on about an “agenda in modern media” which is textbook delusional persecution, then you double down by making your point using sexist slurs. So again, thank you for watching the video, I made it for you.
@@cedricjouarie He didn't use any slurs. A girl boss is a character who doesn't experience growth and doesn't have to overcome obstacles. It's about WRITING a character. Not its sex. You didn't address any of the actual good arguments he made. You keep insisting on calling that misogyny when it's not. Yes the characters happen to be female but they would be equally badly written if they were men. Strange because we have tons of female heroes that are hailed in the fac community. Care to address ANY of his actual claims maybe instead of just deflecting?
@@cedricjouarie Ebony is right. You did not address a single argument. You just keep deflecting. Maybe address the argument about writing?
@@MarceloKowalewski the only argument about poor writing is that heroes are poorly written in most action movies, whether they’re men or women, but it only seems to bother “you guys” in the latter category, which begs the question why. Though to be fair, it’s a rhetorical question, the answer of which can be found in the video you watched-at least in my opinion, but it’s okay to disagree 😉
No Cedric it has nothing to do with insecurities. Sure there is always the one who truly hates women but it's about believability. Truth is therer are limits about what you can protray as a man/woman. It is completely uncontroversial to say that for men since nobody would like to see Arnold Schwarzenegger try to play a ballerina but we somehow must accept a 100 lbs woman throwing men around. It't the tired old accusation that is so popular in Hollywood to throw around. When in doubt cry misogyny. Ripley was a great character because she was NOT a female Rambo. She is not as capable as a guy and that is exactly what makes female protagonists interesting in the first place. They have to use their brain instead of their muscles. Otherwise I would just watch a Schwarzenegger movie. The comment about denigrating men is true. In most Hollywood movies these days the writer try to prop up a female character not on her own merits but by trying to make her look better in contrast to a man. It's not the people commenting on your videos who are misogynysts it's Hollywood who thinks that a woman can only be strong by essentially stripping her of all femininity. It is not a coincidence that Captain Marvel is protrayed as more stoic than most male action heroes. Femininity is seen as weak and something non desirable for a woman in such a role. Mabe think next time first before throwing around those baseless insults. Ripley is a great character exactly because she overcame adversity. Because she was he weaker one yet used her intelligence to overcome those obstacles. In addition to that she played a very motherly role for Newt. Something rarely seen these days. So you proved exactly the opposite with your video.
There are so many things you wrote here that actually make my point. Some women being stronger than some men, either psychologically or physically, is not only believable, it’s just a fact of life. Arnold Schwarzenegger indeed never played a ballerina however, he did ask ballerinas to help him develop grace in his movements and postures during his bodybuilding competitions days, as seen in the film ‘Pumping Iron.’ I never cry misogyny in doubt, only when I witness misogyny. Movies for over 100 years have featured men looking better than women, and it didn’t seem to bother the very people who now can’t accept the occasional reversal of situation, which I must say I find both sad and hilarious. So if you don’t mind, let’s agree to disagree, but I do believe these reactions are absolutely based on insecurity and misogyny. And I don’t say this as an insult because I also believe it’s never too late to change. And since you watched and commented on my video, I want to sincerely thank you and congratulate you; you’ve made one step in the right direction.
@@cedricjouarie Yes exactly. But these women are super rare. That is why Gina Carano who is an MMA fighter did not face criticism. That only goes to show that it is about believable character writing in the first place. Someone you believe can fill that role. But all that has limits. No woman in Hollywood today looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger. That is nonsense and you know it. I used that example to exemplify how there are limits to each gender. You completely missed my point when you go on about Arnold getting lessons from Ballerinas. No matter how many hours he took he would never be believable. Yet we don't cass that misandry. Why? Because we aren't dumb and know that there are limits to what a certain actor can portray. I can't portray a pregnant woman as well as some other roles because I'm a man. But when people point that out about women you cling to your misogyny claim because you don't want to address the actual criticisms. Because if you dug a little deeper you would undertstand it's not about the gender in the first place. It's about WRITING. But you just seem to ignore that.
@@EbonyPope not ignoring anything. Certainly not pretending that the writing from Hollywood is without issues. I just believe you’re fighting the wrong battle.
P.S.: Schwarzy played a pregnant man 😜
@@cedricjouarie Yes he played it for laughs. That was exactly my point. He played a pregnant woman because it was a ridiculous concept and would make people laugh. I was talking about believable realistic roles. Not some comedy, not some sci-fi. You completely missed the point again still haven't addressed a single argument made by me or the other guy. Just saying Hollywood writing has its problem IS EXACTLY OUR POINT. Women are essentially written as men because Hollywood sees femininity as something weak and undesirable. Again you completely missed the actual arguments and just call everything that might criticise a female character misogyny. That just simply isn't true.
@@cedricjouarie The point was that it would be seen as ridiculous. And it was. You seem to forget that said Film with Schwarzenegger was a comedy exactly proving the inital point made.