Prove A is a subset of B with the ELEMENT METHOD

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  • How can we prove that A is a subset of B? The element method has two steps. Firstly, assume that x is an element of A. Then you need to show that x is also an element of B. Because x is chosen generically, this means that every element of A is necessarily an element of B, and thus A is a subset of B. If you want to prove that two sets are EQUAL, then you need to use the element method to show that A is a subset of B AND that B is a subset of A.
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  • @Kuda_Christine
    @Kuda_Christine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    very helpful. thank you

  • @mikhailkilianovski8024
    @mikhailkilianovski8024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like there is a small typo in example from 2:54 Set Builder notation for B should use m in the condition part, not n

  • @Construction-agencyCoUk
    @Construction-agencyCoUk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video i would just say in future please write more clearly - thank you for your effort, much appreciated.

  • @RJone89
    @RJone89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you Trefor. Thank you.

  • @bluejimmy168
    @bluejimmy168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 6:30, you proved that x is an element of B, which proved that A is subset of B. How do we prove that A is a proper subset of B? The set A has fewer items than B, but i dont know how to write it in a math way. Last question, the method of proof you used in this video is direct proof, right? Thanks.

    • @ClaireAlison88
      @ClaireAlison88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it is a direct proof. If you want to say A has fewer items than B, you can say |A|

  • @nrgking1667
    @nrgking1667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow it took 6 minutes and I understand this and it took my professor 1 hour and confused a whole bunch of people

  • @maxgoals
    @maxgoals 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    nice video , but i could not grasp the idea of putting q=2p
    yeah it's logical, but you made a specilization here by making q=2p, what if they p and q equal each other or p is 3q or anything else .. thank you

    • @walidibrahimMaxGoals
      @walidibrahimMaxGoals 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DrTrefor So p and q are different integers to define different sets so that the first set A have all numbers which are multiple of 4 and the second set B have all numbers which are multiple of 2 .. you need to proof that Set A is a subset B so you need to verify that each element in A is also in B.
      There is just one case that makes the numbers in A is subset of B, that's when q=2p .. that means that you must choose an even number for q to make sure that it is in the two sets. If you choose odd number it will be in B but not in A. Hence the set A is subset of B.
      You could say also because every number in A is a multiple of 4 that leads to every number of A is also a multiple of 2.
      This example is easy but if there is two other complex sets and you want to see if one of them is a subset of the other ?
      Thanks

  • @royal3537
    @royal3537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks sir

  • @ayushregmi4623
    @ayushregmi4623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think P also belongs to positive integer rather than integer only sir , in order to make n a positive integer . or may be I'm wrong😁

  • @adrianharo6586
    @adrianharo6586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, very helpful, do note that you started with nice hand writing but you started accidentally used italic font towards the end.

  • @bronsonhill6185
    @bronsonhill6185 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can you let q = 2p?

    • @_carrotfx
      @_carrotfx ปีที่แล้ว

      because the definition of q is that its an integer, and p was also defined as an integer, 2p would also be an integer because integers are closed under multiplication.

  • @michaelmichaels3465
    @michaelmichaels3465 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're the Mensan version of Mac from IASIP

  • @poosywoosy5553
    @poosywoosy5553 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2p+1 is odd if p is whole. If p is .5, it’s even.

    • @jmc042
      @jmc042 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      do you know what an integer is

    • @ninjapirate123
      @ninjapirate123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      decimals are not integers

  • @iAnarchy89
    @iAnarchy89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dont understand the letters you use for this and the next few videos, you use n and m to describe the elements of A and B but you use n for both such that statements. is there a reason for that ?
    at first i thought you used n for both because A is a subset of B but then i saw you did that for the union and intersection in the next few videos as well.

    • @iAnarchy89
      @iAnarchy89 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrTrefor so can i say
      A = { n ∈ Z | n = 4p, p ∈ Z}
      B = { m ∈ Z | m = 2q, q ∈ Z} ?

    • @nateburd
      @nateburd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iAnarchy89 I think it is incorrect. The set variable should be indicated in the set build.

    • @iAnarchy89
      @iAnarchy89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nateburd hi I don’t understand, what is the m there for?

    • @nateburd
      @nateburd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iAnarchy89 the top says n is a in the integers Z and that n will be 4 times some integer p (also an integer).
      The bottom says m is an integer such that m will be 2 times q (also an integer).
      I am studying maths too but I'm pretty sure there should be an m in the bottom set builder (where in the video is an n). I've emailed the professor and am awaiting a response.

    • @iAnarchy89
      @iAnarchy89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nateburd ahhh sorry I misunderstood your earlier reply, I thought you meant my comment was wrong haha. Thanks it was bugging me thought my understanding of the concepts were wrong.