Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Theragun: therabody.com/lex to get 30 day trial - NI: www.ni.com/perspectives - GiveWell: www.givewell.org/ and use code LEX to get donation matched up to $1k - Blinkist: blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium - Fundrise: fundrise.com/lex 0:22 - Origin of Instagram 42:29 - New social networks 1:01:34 - Selling Instagram to Facebook 1:24:36 - Features 1:28:42 - Facebook 2:05:24 - Whistleblower 2:16:43 - Machine learning 2:26:41 - Advice for startups 2:32:33 - Money 2:38:33 - Love 2:40:50 - Meaning of life
Cheese Pizza? Meta's Instagram Facilitated Massive Pedophile Network A comprehensive investigation by the Wall Street Journal and the Stanford Internet Observatory reveals that Meta-owned Instagram has been home to an organized and massive network of pedophiles. But what separates this case from most is that Instagram's own algorithms were promoting pedophile content to other pedophiles, while the pedos themselves used coded emojis, such as a picture of a map, or a slice of cheese pizza. Instagram connects pedophiles and guides them to content sellers via recommendation systems that excel at linking those who share niche interests, the Journal and the academic researchers found.
One of your all-time best interviews ever! Please bring him back -- amazing and honest speaker… One question you should’ve asked was (maybe next time), If you could go back in time - would you still have sold it to Facebook; knowing what you know now and how much more it was worth?
I think his answer would be Yes. He and his team ended up getting Facebook shares that 20x'd which makes up for the fact he maybe could have sold Instagram for 20x as much.
KS chartered the private yacht I work on a few years ago (60-m, ocean-going motor vessel). I gave him and his guests tours of the engine room. Of the 100s of people who have toured my ER his parents asked the most intelligent questions. They actually listened to what was being said and critically processed the info. Choose your parents wisely.
This is an incredible interview Lex! I may deeply dislike a lot of what social media has become, but hearing this guy comment on the entire industry in such a thoughtful, measured way is beautifully refreshing.
As a "regular dude" who got into computers because DOOM II was an option available for me in 1994 when I got my first PC, I am eternally amazed by these amazing minds that are a few years younger than me, like Lex and his contemporaries on his podcast. I am honored to be alive at the same time as these magnificent minds, and they really help me to feel better about the future. Kevin said something awesome like "It's not like I'm going to be sitting around on a beach" about his future/retirement, and I'm so glad these people exist and have the inspiration to move forward, motivated by so many things that aren't just profits. I love this future. Thank you guys :)
I have heard a couple talks with Kevin and Mike, and they are always great. Such thoughtful, smart, insightful people with helpful wisdom to share. This is well worth the nearly 3 hours.
I imagine you'll never read this, Lex, but I'll give it a go anyway. I think I can answer the question posed around the 1:35:00 mark about why Zuckerberg/Gates/Jack etc. are unpopular among the general public. After asking the question, you also go on to posit that social media company CEOs are unpopular because that's somehow the nature of the business, or reasons otherwise unclear. Systrom argues that it's based on how a product makes someone feel and argues that both Jack and Bezos are well-liked and respected. It's possible that this is true in part, but my intuition is that Systrom's position comes too much from the inside of the business, as I can imagine that both Jack and Bezos are highly respected within their respective businesses,. but I don't think either is particularly well-liked by the public, and I think I know why: authenticity. It may be impolite to say, but Zuckerberg is often presented as a robot, the QAnon people probably really think he is a robot. Jack showed up on Rogan with a lawyer and basically made an ass of himself. Bezos is basically a meme, transforming from a nerdy guy to a roided up CoolGuy that still gets his girl stolen by DiCaprio. Meanwhile, Elon shows up and smokes a joint with Rogan, is wonderfully whimsical and strange, but also generally chill. I think their personalities, or how they managed their public persona, is key to whether they are liked. Elon presents himself as authentic, he puts up polls on twitter about his decision making (selling stock, buying memecoins). That these moves are calculated in advance doesn't seem to matter, because most people seem to find it funny and endearing. You get closer to Elon by him showing his thought processes, while you feel more alienated from Zuckerberg when he puts up some marketing video where he talks about the metaverse... It's just weird and off-putting, some would say autistic, but I don't think that's necessarily the issue. I think this same thing explains part of why Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and you, yourself, are popular (obviously not solely, but I think authenticity is an important part). In a world that's fake and plastic (ironically in part because of apps such as Instagram, social media is making people hunger for _real_ contact more than ever), people long for the good ol' Internet that was full of real shitpoasting that was free and fun. That's my take, may be complete shit, but my credentials are two fold: I'm a PhD in psychology and I've been shitpoasting for two decades. Thanks for your hard work, these are all great!
I listened to interview and walk away disappointed because they glossed over some serious issues. Lex asks great questions then he lets the guest off the hook. The elephant in the room was always about all the data these platforms are vacuuming up and what are they doing with that data.
Am I the only one left not on social media? If it weren't for how to videos and podcasts feeding my insatiable thirst of knowledge, youtube wouldn't capture my attention either. I guess we all pick our own rabbit holes to go down. This is an interesting topic, thanks Lex.
I’m only subscribed to TH-cam. Tried everything else when they were new and ditched them between 2012 - 2015. Never looked back, although I find myself using TH-cam too much these days so need to reign it in soon or that’ll be gone as well.
Ugh - totally. I killed all my socmed accounts, and I totally agree with you about TH-cam. TH-cam is just getting super gross - if I wasn't trying to get a few of my educational channels to gain traction, I'd probably drop TH-cam as well.
I'm with ya friend, I'm only here to learn and even try to give a lil back. Told my son a long time ago, you ever catch me sending a tweet, shoot me in the twat. His shirt reminds me of Dr. Evil. Not evil enough? Seems like a great dude.
Kevin feels like an old friend. This is easily one of the best interviews I’ve ever watched. Similar to a great book I will be revisiting this to study and learn.
This was a masterclass in so many different ways. Product development, business management, stack, system design and infrastructure. Way better than all those "string theories" guys. Lex asked my questions very well and Kevin answered them really well. This guy leading facebook I would " handle him all my data". Really humble and smart.
Yeah, agreed. More pragmatic grounded content based off of an actual proof of work. The cosmic dust stuff can be fascinating but this is the real valuable insight that's applicable.
I think the book Kevin is talking about at 44:12 is “Understanding Michael Porter” “‘When you make decisions. You are saying NO to something else. Making choices different & inconsistent from rivals is what makes you unique. Picture a fork in the road. Saying Yes sends you along different paths from your rivals. Rivals will copy and follow. But they won’t be able to deliver your value without changing their own path, rewind, and alter how they create value (i.e. their value chain). The paths they’ve taken are sewn into their identity, who they are, and what they stand for. Changing this like people will be hard, if not impossible.”
I watch a shit load of podcasts/interviews from this channel and many many others. And I have to say this may be one of the best, most enjoyable, and educational episodes I have ever watched. An all-time top-10 for sure. The insights, the humility, and experiences from this guy is just incredible. Really low key too, I don't really see a whole lot of posts and other interviews from him. Well done Lex!
Haha, I kinda had the opposite experience. Not complaining or blaming Lex nor Kevin tho obvs, but this one just wasn't for me. Still wanted to watch it 'till the end & actually in the middle there was some interesting stuff for me too!
@@El_Diablo_12 My idea is a website to fuel innovation and bring more ideas to life. It simply is a website where you can post your ideas and get a small amount of the earnings if someone brings the idea to life and for example sells it as a product. If that works creatives can make easy money and get their ideas to life more easily. People that are good in executing get new ideas and Inspiration.
I really loved that part where he explains that you can be too dumb to work smart at the begging of your career, so you must be willing to work hard. Also loved 2:29:00 where he explained the 3 circles you need in order to make a start up. :)
I only ever really listened to Rogan… since Lex was on I now only listen to Lex and Joe. Hands Lex down one of easiest intellectuals to listen to and Joe is just great to listen to. I just love how they explain everything as their mind interprets it in real time, rather than a held back constructed oration. It’s how my mind works. Think and speak your mind and feel great about it. Even if it only makes sense to you.
saw part of this on instagram, and came to youtube to watch the full thing. did get bored in the facebook section so skipped to the next. this episode really makes me want to see Lex Fridman on the Lex Fridman Podcast. totally would be great to see you answer some of these questions. as this was kinda a startup. and maybe even have yourself on again to cover different topics.
Lex is such a good interviewer. He brought in human and emotional qualities to a conversation that could have been purely business and semantics. Almost didn’t click on this cause I don’t use Instagram but I’m glad I did, super interesting!
What an amazing conversation. Truly. For like 40 minutes there, I was completely in a flow state while listening. It was also really illuminating to see how this dude's mind works. He presents thing very lucidly. Very much an "Apollo" energy rather than a "Dionysus." It's gotten to the point where I honestly get more excited for Lex Fridman to interview someone than Joe Rogan.
Listening to interviews like this is so much better than the culture war charlatans that usually make the rounds on a lot of podcasts. Great episode! Learned so much!
What Kevin said about hard work resonated with me, my attitude towards to not working hard has always been to help my longevity, but in put in a different perspective for me, makes me hungry to learn skills needed today. Seems like such a humble guy too, thanks!
There were a lot of good parts but I’m disappointed that Lex barely made an attempt to ask questions about the negative aspects of Instagram. As Systrom himself said of the recent Facebook stuff, this is not new information! Instagram’s addictive qualities are a feature, not a bug? Other questions could’ve been “How do you feel about empowering the shallowest people in the world to make huge amounts of money?” Or “Would the world be a better place without Instagram.” Lex went into fanboy mode hard and didn’t display deep inquisitiveness that I love about him!
I would more than agree with you here. I did not watch this podcast even partially since I read your comment, and supposed based on your comment that if what you say is true (and I think chances thereof are gargantuan) , watching the podcast would hurt me immensely. I would, indeed considering your assessment on Lex' questions to be valid, suppose the conversation is Fridman's worst 'performance' hitherto, although I must admit I appreciated some of his previous podcasts and think his thinking there was rather specially profound. This podcast, from your simple sketch of its content, would supposedly inter alia (alia being a plethora of cultural deformative processes) be leaving undiscussed the moronic culture which the structure of Instagram has for the last few years been solidifying amongst especially the very young, but accross American and international culture, shattering the sensibility of the world populace. There is so much to say about these Bernaysian, Macluhanesque, Debordian issues at hand that I am aghast by Fridman's lack of putting those under his scrutiny. It would require a lot of time and energy to explain what exactly these are (some readers and viewers here may understand or agree) and it is extremely psychologically painful on countless levels that Lex should have done at least exactly that, and did not, particularly because he is considered (I suppose from a, regarding that assumption, relatively low-information position in Europe) an intellectual bastion, a leading figure in the meta-reflective posse of Silicon Valley and if even he does not grasp these basics I think that would be ominous for future developments coming from the valley's cradle (or is that tautological?). By all means, someone (perhaps Lex himself? since maybe he is just playing with his viewers after all with this then joke of an interview and is no fool, or is he?) should make a podcast considering all that. I certainly would make it, if I had the time-energy expenditure position to do so, and while unfortunately I don't have that, perhaps someone else (Lex, are you there?) should. But in sum, Silicon Valley hubris appears increasingly horrid considering this rendition of Lex' podcast. Cheers to all involved anyway, hope we'll see some interesting perspectives on this issue soon (before it's too late, or is it?)!
@@WouterSchiller Ya! I think it's very possible that Lex does not know a single "normal" person and doesn't realize how big of a roll Instagram plays in many people's lives. It's tough to suggest to someone that the thing they devoted their life to is actually terrible but I think genuine scientific thinking would force you to at least ponder that idea.
I have to say, i didnt venture into this one thinking this would be really exciting but by the end of it i was hoping that it go on for a little longer. Thank you so much for this, Lex.
Almost 3 hrs and still didnt feel long enough God bless you lex and kevin I hate to sound so simpleton But i have to tell the truth: My mind expanded, and grew from this conversation
Very good episode. Compelling and eye opening. Behind the scenes of building Instagram. Sometimes the cool stuff is so simple. Identify and address pain points. Ride forthcoming tech advances. Don’t overthink things.
Great interview. I can't help but think that the more technical questions (like scaling and so on) would've been better answered by his co-founder Mike, who served as CTO until 2018. Maybe having him on would be cool too.
I tell all my friends how good this podcast is but I guess I should tell you to. Appreciate You and your creative process. Good luck with your dreams of the social network for love.
9:45 People have trouble giving feedback 15:54 People a lot of the times don't know how to explain themselves 19:00 Have a good market fit 25:00 תעשה לאנשים חוויה יותר קלה 36:55 Find market fit. And what people need
Thanks for this... Was great! I love the advice that starting a great company doesn't necessarily require the most difficult idea, just the idea that people want
I completely agree with you that a lot more data is needed for the algorithms to get better. I really wish that a lot of platforms would implement more user feedback, rather than just relying on the algorithms to automatically figure out which part of the content was good or bad. Put more flags on content that people can vote up or down for the algorithm to learn from, rather than just assuming. I have a lot of problems with the algorithms of TH-cam and Reddit learning wrong things about me, and completely disregarding my constant feedback that their assumption is wrong. "You liked a video, so you enjoy carpentry". I've said "not interested, I don't like it" to 400+ videos from the carpentry category and haven't watched any of the ones you are suggesting, please just let me tell you that "I don't want carpentry" rather than defaulting back to my liked video list. I don't even know which piece of content triggered the conclusion, so I can do nothing to fix it.
In my opinion he gave a very poor response to question of the Facebook whistle blower revealing that their social media apps have a harmful effect on young people, specifically young women. He even went on to say that “I’m sure there are lot of negatives but I’m also sure that there are a lot of positives.” In my opinion that’s a weak response, that’s like saying “yeah sure sex trafficking is bad but it’s also good for a countries GDP” he even made a reference to this short of analogy earlier when he said “just because people like gambling doesn’t mean it’s good”
FB has destroyed IG by doing what they do best - completely altering your feeds with stuff you really don't care about instead of showing you what you're following. From a content creator perspective, it's lost its relevance because building a following on IG is now pointless because they don't even show your content to your followers any more. FB leadership has consistently destroyed the community aspect for short term gains instead of fostering it and growing with it. 🤦🏽♂️
Thanks, doing a great job Lex. Hard work and love of work really helps progress, but only so far. Thats why a Love of something is so important. Many successful people, at an early age, were at school, college, in a social group in or on the fringe of emerging technology and grew with it.
Hi Lex, always loved your content and this podcast to me is absolutely golden I appreciate this very much and it really fueled a fire in me to continue with my invention and gave me more confidence than ever that I can do this
rolling my eyes at Buddhism being mentioned in a conversation about entrepreneurialism. another silicon valley clone. also, great interview Lex, you're a real one.
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0:22 - Origin of Instagram
42:29 - New social networks
1:01:34 - Selling Instagram to Facebook
1:24:36 - Features
1:28:42 - Facebook
2:05:24 - Whistleblower
2:16:43 - Machine learning
2:26:41 - Advice for startups
2:32:33 - Money
2:38:33 - Love
2:40:50 - Meaning of life
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I wrote some of the work that Frances leaked. Happy to talk to you about ways to think about it.
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Cheese Pizza? Meta's Instagram Facilitated Massive Pedophile Network
A comprehensive investigation by the Wall Street Journal and the Stanford Internet Observatory reveals that Meta-owned Instagram has been home to an organized and massive network of pedophiles.
But what separates this case from most is that Instagram's own algorithms were promoting pedophile content to other pedophiles, while the pedos themselves used coded emojis, such as a picture of a map, or a slice of cheese pizza.
Instagram connects pedophiles and guides them to content sellers via recommendation systems that excel at linking those who share niche interests, the Journal and the academic researchers found.
Instagram would have made an amazing company name for a weed delivery service.
when ya need the 4gs? ASAP? Coo, gotchya on that instagram boss
At this point thats pretty much what it is .
Weedmaps lol
countdown till this is a stolen tweet
This should have been top comment, but Lex had to be a total stand up dude
lex, I know you don't read all these. Hard time in life, you keep me through, love ya
Love you too. Hard times strengthen the mind. Keep going!
@@lexfridman lex your content has changed me for the better as a person
@@lexfridman You're the man lex. You are the man
Thank you lex
@@lexfridman your content and all the listeners give me hope.
I was glued to the entire conversation. Awesome video, Lex. These keep getting better and better.
don‘t compare apples with pears, his content has been good since day one
Titanic!! Huge fan, dude. Glad to see you here as well.
@@lugas2267 absolutely!! All his stuff is great. My personal favourites are Michael Malice with Yaron, and the one with his dad.
Same feeling here! one of the most interesting persons Lex has ever talked to in the realm of entrepreneurs
One of your all-time best interviews ever! Please bring him back -- amazing and honest speaker… One question you should’ve asked was (maybe next time), If you could go back in time - would you still have sold it to Facebook; knowing what you know now and how much more it was worth?
I think his answer would be Yes. He and his team ended up getting Facebook shares that 20x'd which makes up for the fact he maybe could have sold Instagram for 20x as much.
KS chartered the private yacht I work on a few years ago (60-m, ocean-going motor vessel). I gave him and his guests tours of the engine room. Of the 100s of people who have toured my ER his parents asked the most intelligent questions. They actually listened to what was being said and critically processed the info. Choose your parents wisely.
"Choose your parents wisely" LOL
Anyone know when the new T100 Parent Models are coming out so I can order them off Amazon?
This is an incredible interview Lex! I may deeply dislike a lot of what social media has become, but hearing this guy comment on the entire industry in such a thoughtful, measured way is beautifully refreshing.
Systrom has always been my fav tech startup founder. He's so down to earth and humble.
As a "regular dude" who got into computers because DOOM II was an option available for me in 1994 when I got my first PC, I am eternally amazed by these amazing minds that are a few years younger than me, like Lex and his contemporaries on his podcast. I am honored to be alive at the same time as these magnificent minds, and they really help me to feel better about the future. Kevin said something awesome like "It's not like I'm going to be sitting around on a beach" about his future/retirement, and I'm so glad these people exist and have the inspiration to move forward, motivated by so many things that aren't just profits. I love this future. Thank you guys :)
another fantastic episode, this is by a country mile the most informative podcast out here! Keep up the amazing work Lex
Incredible interview, Kevin was awesome. Please do more interviews with founders.
Very fun conversation. Also a really good reminder to write those test cases!
I have heard a couple talks with Kevin and Mike, and they are always great. Such thoughtful, smart, insightful people with helpful wisdom to share. This is well worth the nearly 3 hours.
I imagine you'll never read this, Lex, but I'll give it a go anyway. I think I can answer the question posed around the 1:35:00 mark about why Zuckerberg/Gates/Jack etc. are unpopular among the general public. After asking the question, you also go on to posit that social media company CEOs are unpopular because that's somehow the nature of the business, or reasons otherwise unclear. Systrom argues that it's based on how a product makes someone feel and argues that both Jack and Bezos are well-liked and respected. It's possible that this is true in part, but my intuition is that Systrom's position comes too much from the inside of the business, as I can imagine that both Jack and Bezos are highly respected within their respective businesses,. but I don't think either is particularly well-liked by the public, and I think I know why: authenticity.
It may be impolite to say, but Zuckerberg is often presented as a robot, the QAnon people probably really think he is a robot. Jack showed up on Rogan with a lawyer and basically made an ass of himself. Bezos is basically a meme, transforming from a nerdy guy to a roided up CoolGuy that still gets his girl stolen by DiCaprio. Meanwhile, Elon shows up and smokes a joint with Rogan, is wonderfully whimsical and strange, but also generally chill. I think their personalities, or how they managed their public persona, is key to whether they are liked. Elon presents himself as authentic, he puts up polls on twitter about his decision making (selling stock, buying memecoins). That these moves are calculated in advance doesn't seem to matter, because most people seem to find it funny and endearing. You get closer to Elon by him showing his thought processes, while you feel more alienated from Zuckerberg when he puts up some marketing video where he talks about the metaverse... It's just weird and off-putting, some would say autistic, but I don't think that's necessarily the issue.
I think this same thing explains part of why Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and you, yourself, are popular (obviously not solely, but I think authenticity is an important part). In a world that's fake and plastic (ironically in part because of apps such as Instagram, social media is making people hunger for _real_ contact more than ever), people long for the good ol' Internet that was full of real shitpoasting that was free and fun.
That's my take, may be complete shit, but my credentials are two fold: I'm a PhD in psychology and I've been shitpoasting for two decades.
Thanks for your hard work, these are all great!
Thank you for your authentic take on this issue.
Fucking nailed it.
all you have to do is watch Zuck testify in congress to see said authenticity & why folks would think he is a robot
Amazing comment
I listened to interview and walk away disappointed because they glossed over some serious issues. Lex asks great questions then he lets the guest off the hook. The elephant in the room was always about all the data these platforms are vacuuming up and what are they doing with that data.
Am I the only one left not on social media? If it weren't for how to videos and podcasts feeding my insatiable thirst of knowledge, youtube wouldn't capture my attention either. I guess we all pick our own rabbit holes to go down. This is an interesting topic, thanks Lex.
I’m only subscribed to TH-cam. Tried everything else when they were new and ditched them between 2012 - 2015. Never looked back, although I find myself using TH-cam too much these days so need to reign it in soon or that’ll be gone as well.
@@twarken5078, ya YTs basically my one stop shop....the scaling of content(vapid or otherwise) is a concerning/baffling element, to me at least.
@@twarken5078 you are a rare breed my friend.
Ugh - totally. I killed all my socmed accounts, and I totally agree with you about TH-cam. TH-cam is just getting super gross - if I wasn't trying to get a few of my educational channels to gain traction, I'd probably drop TH-cam as well.
I'm with ya friend, I'm only here to learn and even try to give a lil back. Told my son a long time ago, you ever catch me sending a tweet, shoot me in the twat. His shirt reminds me of Dr. Evil. Not evil enough? Seems like a great dude.
Kevin feels like an old friend. This is easily one of the best interviews I’ve ever watched. Similar to a great book I will be revisiting this to study and learn.
Curious to why Kevin hasn't posted on Instagram since 2018. Great interview so far.
it's owned by facebook>? isn't that enough? lmao.
He probably just realized Instagram does nothing good for you....
That would've been a great question for him.
Because drug dealers usually do not take it themselves
@@Matteopolska don't get high off your own supply
This was a masterclass in so many different ways. Product development, business management, stack, system design and infrastructure. Way better than all those "string theories" guys. Lex asked my questions very well and Kevin answered them really well. This guy leading facebook I would " handle him all my data". Really humble and smart.
Yeah, agreed. More pragmatic grounded content based off of an actual proof of work. The cosmic dust stuff can be fascinating but this is the real valuable insight that's applicable.
I think the book Kevin is talking about at 44:12 is “Understanding Michael Porter”
“‘When you make decisions. You are saying NO to something else. Making choices different & inconsistent from rivals is what makes you unique. Picture a fork in the road. Saying Yes sends you along different paths from your rivals.
Rivals will copy and follow. But they won’t be able to deliver your value without changing their own path, rewind, and alter how they create value (i.e. their value chain). The paths they’ve taken are sewn into their identity, who they are, and what they stand for. Changing this like people will be hard, if not impossible.”
Wow
This is probably the best podcast Lex has made yet. Amazing guest and an insightful conversation!
I watch a shit load of podcasts/interviews from this channel and many many others. And I have to say this may be one of the best, most enjoyable, and educational episodes I have ever watched. An all-time top-10 for sure. The insights, the humility, and experiences from this guy is just incredible. Really low key too, I don't really see a whole lot of posts and other interviews from him. Well done Lex!
Honestly
and that’s coming from a person who has watched through the entire interviews of Charles Hoskinson and cal newport
So many gems in this one
Haha, I kinda had the opposite experience. Not complaining or blaming Lex nor Kevin tho obvs, but this one just wasn't for me. Still wanted to watch it 'till the end & actually in the middle there was some interesting stuff for me too!
Me and my friends from the UK watch alot of your pods they really are amazing
As a 23 year old male trying to figure out what I want to do with my life. The breadth of guests lex has is a great resource for inspiration.
Are you a programmer? Ive got an idea on what to build
@@Ideenschmiede what idea? Ideas are a dime a dozen, it’s the execution that matters
@@El_Diablo_12 My idea is a website to fuel innovation and bring more ideas to life. It simply is a website where you can post your ideas and get a small amount of the earnings if someone brings the idea to life and for example sells it as a product. If that works creatives can make easy money and get their ideas to life more easily. People that are good in executing get new ideas and Inspiration.
@@Ideenschmiede too easy to steal the idea while not compensating the person who originally had the idea
@@amiria8501 if you have a solution for that problem let me know
I really loved that part where he explains that you can be too dumb to work smart at the begging of your career, so you must be willing to work hard. Also loved 2:29:00 where he explained the 3 circles you need in order to make a start up. :)
The intersection of the circles is called “Ikigai”
Interviews like this one is where Lex shine. Really nice!
I only ever really listened to Rogan… since Lex was on I now only listen to Lex and Joe.
Hands Lex down one of easiest intellectuals to listen to and Joe is just great to listen to. I just love how they explain everything as their mind interprets it in real time, rather than a held back constructed oration. It’s how my mind works.
Think and speak your mind and feel great about it. Even if it only makes sense to you.
saw part of this on instagram, and came to youtube to watch the full thing. did get bored in the facebook section so skipped to the next. this episode really makes me want to see Lex Fridman on the Lex Fridman Podcast. totally would be great to see you answer some of these questions. as this was kinda a startup. and maybe even have yourself on again to cover different topics.
Lex is such a good interviewer. He brought in human and emotional qualities to a conversation that could have been purely business and semantics. Almost didn’t click on this cause I don’t use Instagram but I’m glad I did, super interesting!
What an amazing conversation. Truly. For like 40 minutes there, I was completely in a flow state while listening. It was also really illuminating to see how this dude's mind works. He presents thing very lucidly. Very much an "Apollo" energy rather than a "Dionysus."
It's gotten to the point where I honestly get more excited for Lex Fridman to interview someone than Joe Rogan.
One of my favorite Lexcasts
You should have Tristan Harris on from the social dilema and jre. Especially for the subject of making better social media, he's the guy.
No, please don’t do that. All the guy can do is ask questions but cannot propose anything. That was enough pubiclity for him
Thank you Lex!!! For the gentle energy that gives respite in this crazy world. A Fan from Kazakhstan ❤
Outstanding conversation. Please do an episode with Pavel Durov 🙏🏼
I hope you asked him about how he feels ruining the mental health of entire new generations of young people
One of the best ones this year. Great work
Loved listening to Kevin, he’s super aspiring. “Absolutely!” such a powerful response
Easily one of the best podcasts I’ve listened to this year
Thank you lex for your amazing podcast!
Amazing guests indeed.
Ive met Kevin a few times and he's a good dude. Great interview!
A few times, and you know him?
@@jmac3327 cool it hot stuff
Listening to this conversation has ben Zen like to me. Kevin is such a smart and articulated guy, down to earth and successful. Thanks Lex.
Listening to interviews like this is so much better than the culture war charlatans that usually make the rounds on a lot of podcasts. Great episode! Learned so much!
Your every podcast is gold for ambitious, curious folks.
Please take naval on your podcast
What Kevin said about hard work resonated with me, my attitude towards to not working hard has always been to help my longevity, but in put in a different perspective for me, makes me hungry to learn skills needed today. Seems like such a humble guy too, thanks!
Oh my gosh. Thanksgiving and holiday planning Gantt chart app. Please Kevin! Bring it to light! 🚀
There were a lot of good parts but I’m disappointed that Lex barely made an attempt to ask questions about the negative aspects of Instagram. As Systrom himself said of the recent Facebook stuff, this is not new information! Instagram’s addictive qualities are a feature, not a bug? Other questions could’ve been “How do you feel about empowering the shallowest people in the world to make huge amounts of money?” Or “Would the world be a better place without Instagram.” Lex went into fanboy mode hard and didn’t display deep inquisitiveness that I love about him!
Here. Also immensely dissapointed with Lex lately. He's been kissing a lot of corporate asses.
I would more than agree with you here.
I did not watch this podcast even partially since I read your comment, and supposed based on your comment that if what you say is true (and I think chances thereof are gargantuan) , watching the podcast would hurt me immensely.
I would, indeed considering your assessment on Lex' questions to be valid, suppose the conversation is Fridman's worst 'performance' hitherto, although I must admit I appreciated some of his previous podcasts and think his thinking there was rather specially profound.
This podcast, from your simple sketch of its content, would supposedly inter alia (alia being a plethora of cultural deformative processes) be leaving undiscussed the moronic culture which the structure of Instagram has for the last few years been solidifying amongst especially the very young, but accross American and international culture, shattering the sensibility of the world populace.
There is so much to say about these Bernaysian, Macluhanesque, Debordian issues at hand that I am aghast by Fridman's lack of putting those under his scrutiny. It would require a lot of time and energy to explain what exactly these are (some readers and viewers here may understand or agree) and it is extremely psychologically painful on countless levels that Lex should have done at least exactly that, and did not, particularly because he is considered (I suppose from a, regarding that assumption, relatively low-information position in Europe) an intellectual bastion, a leading figure in the meta-reflective posse of Silicon Valley and if even he does not grasp these basics I think that would be ominous for future developments coming from the valley's cradle (or is that tautological?). By all means, someone (perhaps Lex himself? since maybe he is just playing with his viewers after all with this then joke of an interview and is no fool, or is he?) should make a podcast considering all that. I certainly would make it, if I had the time-energy expenditure position to do so, and while unfortunately I don't have that, perhaps someone else (Lex, are you there?) should.
But in sum, Silicon Valley hubris appears increasingly horrid considering this rendition of Lex' podcast.
Cheers to all involved anyway, hope we'll see some interesting perspectives on this issue soon (before it's too late, or is it?)!
@@WouterSchiller Ya! I think it's very possible that Lex does not know a single "normal" person and doesn't realize how big of a roll Instagram plays in many people's lives. It's tough to suggest to someone that the thing they devoted their life to is actually terrible but I think genuine scientific thinking would force you to at least ponder that idea.
I have to say, i didnt venture into this one thinking this would be really exciting but by the end of it i was hoping that it go on for a little longer. Thank you so much for this, Lex.
I just realized Spotify has video of lex’s podcast… I will only be on TH-cam for comedy and space vids now.
This guy equivocated on every single hard question Lex gave him in the exact manner that gets parodied on shows like Silicon Valley.
Equivocated! That's the word I was looking for
yup. dude is not going to talk crap about his master and his meta universe. All these guys are just the same.
Almost 3 hrs and still didnt feel long enough
God bless you lex and kevin
I hate to sound so simpleton
But i have to tell the truth:
My mind expanded, and grew from this conversation
Ohohohoh what an episode!
What wonderful conversation!!!
Thanks 🔥
That was a great interview. Thank you.
Thank you for such an excellent podcast Lex! I would love it if you invited Ramin Djawadi, the creator of Westworld’s score.
Very amazing soundtrack indeed
What a discussion. It like you guys are talking about my startup. Thank you!
What a recent discovery. Super sharp, articulate, pragmatic, accomplished... What a guy to listen to!
this was an extremely valuable learning experience, thank you
dude i just finished an 10hr drive to my parents house, you couldnt have released this earlier?
I guess Ill save it for my drive home lol
@Christopher Smith hah and i just drive across the continent because I just keep finding good podcasts
Very good episode. Compelling and eye opening. Behind the scenes of building Instagram. Sometimes the cool stuff is so simple. Identify and address pain points. Ride forthcoming tech advances. Don’t overthink things.
AWESOME PODCAST Thanks!
wow Thanks so much for this interview. Truly appreciate this. Will replay it for sure
Lex you hit some good confusion points and dug in well with questions, from a fellow googler to an ex googler, another good one brotha.
Best video among all of yours, especially according to my situation in life
Thanku for doing this lex♥♥
Experience, excited about (passionate) and what the world needs. Such a cool intersection.
Great interview. I can't help but think that the more technical questions (like scaling and so on) would've been better answered by his co-founder Mike, who served as CTO until 2018. Maybe having him on would be cool too.
I tell all my friends how good this podcast is but I guess I should tell you to. Appreciate You and your creative process. Good luck with your dreams of the social network for love.
What a truly enjoyable, moving and fascinating conversation!
Thank you again for your very thoughtful content, Lex!
Fascinating pod with amazing guest. Really liked hearing him talk about the nature of work and appreciated that last bit about opting in.
It is truly amazing to see what kind of guests that he has.
Incredible podcast
That is a great conversation, it had huge benefits out of it, and the guest seems a very cool person.
9:45
People have trouble giving feedback
15:54
People a lot of the times don't know how to explain themselves
19:00
Have a good market fit
25:00
תעשה לאנשים חוויה יותר קלה
36:55
Find market fit.
And what people need
Thanks for this... Was great! I love the advice that starting a great company doesn't necessarily require the most difficult idea, just the idea that people want
What a great guy Kevin is, very easy listen, thanks Lex!
I also just want to say, I love your quotes at the end!
Hey Lex do a podcast with khabib
didnt know the coe of insta is such a smart guy. great podcast, learned a lot thank you
Great to see he's getting back in the game!
One of the best vids, Lex. Thx!
I completely agree with you that a lot more data is needed for the algorithms to get better. I really wish that a lot of platforms would implement more user feedback, rather than just relying on the algorithms to automatically figure out which part of the content was good or bad. Put more flags on content that people can vote up or down for the algorithm to learn from, rather than just assuming.
I have a lot of problems with the algorithms of TH-cam and Reddit learning wrong things about me, and completely disregarding my constant feedback that their assumption is wrong. "You liked a video, so you enjoy carpentry". I've said "not interested, I don't like it" to 400+ videos from the carpentry category and haven't watched any of the ones you are suggesting, please just let me tell you that "I don't want carpentry" rather than defaulting back to my liked video list. I don't even know which piece of content triggered the conclusion, so I can do nothing to fix it.
Excellent interview Lex. I’ve grown quite fond of your channel of late. Keep up the good work young man.
Love this podcast thank you so much♿👽
This guy is really smart!! Amazing talk
In my opinion he gave a very poor response to question of the Facebook whistle blower revealing that their social media apps have a harmful effect on young people, specifically young women. He even went on to say that “I’m sure there are lot of negatives but I’m also sure that there are a lot of positives.” In my opinion that’s a weak response, that’s like saying “yeah sure sex trafficking is bad but it’s also good for a countries GDP” he even made a reference to this short of analogy earlier when he said “just because people like gambling doesn’t mean it’s good”
FB has destroyed IG by doing what they do best - completely altering your feeds with stuff you really don't care about instead of showing you what you're following. From a content creator perspective, it's lost its relevance because building a following on IG is now pointless because they don't even show your content to your followers any more. FB leadership has consistently destroyed the community aspect for short term gains instead of fostering it and growing with it. 🤦🏽♂️
Ha! Shoutout for Omniplan 🙌🏻 you’re not alone Kevin!
Thanks for another great episode Lex!
Thanks, doing a great job Lex. Hard work and love of work really helps progress, but only so far. Thats why a Love of something is so important. Many successful people, at an early age, were at school, college, in a social group in or on the fringe of emerging technology and grew with it.
Loved the podcast Lex. It's amazing how you can get such high caliber guests!
Really cool interview!
Wow what a conversation!
Thanks, really interesting and insightful conversation from both sides of the table
Such a good conversation.
Kevin is so down to earth, I love it.
best episode ever!
Great Talk. Enjoyed it.
Hi Lex, always loved your content and this podcast to me is absolutely golden I appreciate this very much and it really fueled a fire in me to continue with my invention and gave me more confidence than ever that I can do this
Kevin is the man! Huge respect for him. Thanks Lex!
Thanks, Lex! Interesting & inspirational
Feeling inspired from this one!
10:48 The most important currency that people have is their ATTENTION.
16:33 Why instagram photos suck but in an artistic way
rolling my eyes at Buddhism being mentioned in a conversation about entrepreneurialism. another silicon valley clone. also, great interview Lex, you're a real one.