Nice Work. Did Something similar as student approx. 10 years ago, but more the Fernandes sustainer approach, where the Neck Pickup also acts as an inducer. Used a cheap empty pickup bobin plus the "Ruby" amp as a Driver circuit dir an own coil, worked Like a charm despite trying out the inducer coil gauge and length manually.. however I never did a PCB as I later bought an actual Fernades FS40x kit
As you mentioned this is Ebow technology. I think a lot of your answers will come from investigating The Sustaniac. It is an integrated guitar sustainer.
Thank you for the video and all your hard work that's gone into this project! I would buy at least one right now if I were smart enough to know with confidence how to wire this into a guitar.
Haha the inductors... have polarity because they aren't used here for their inductance, they're used as driver and pickup voice coils. It should be immediately obvious to everyone that speakers and microphones have polarity, and these are fundamentally the same, just without the acoustic bits. Well polarity might be the wrong word, phase perhaps. Maybe if you rename them to voice coils instead of inductors, people will stop putting them in every which way and being surprised when the device doesn't work?
The chords! Sounds are amazing. I'm imagining a set up on an autoharp. Wouldn't that be interestingly tedious. But I bet the chords would sound awesome. EDIT Or am I just being the victim of my own hubris? lol Great job, genius bro.
youre the man! u give perfect instructions! i wish i wasnt too dumb to try it.. but i subscribed. ill keep learning from u until a project pops up i feel capable of hopefully2 thanks again.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to use the guitar pickups as the source of input signal? And you could also induce the vibration of the strings with a big single coil installed underneath the strings somewhere around the neck (or above them, if you don't want to cut a hole in your guitar). Then the next step would be just to hide the circuit inside the guitar and you'll get a fully functional guitar with accessory sustain mode
@@ТокаревМихаил-и9к Oh, yes, I see what you are saying. That should be possible, I was just too lazy to take my guitar apart which is why I put some other pickups on top, but in principle I could have used my guitar's existing pickups.
they way you hold and approach the strings with the Ebow creates all sorts of effects from bowing to horn sounds. You can't do that kind of dynamic attack using a fixed position sustainer. Sure you get the polyphony but you loose the expressve features that you would get say, with a pick or bow. Listen to the Ebow examples on line and you'll hear what I mean.
Hi, i have a question about the inductors. I try to build similar coils right now, but i'm having trouble soldering the wire onto the pins in the bobbin. The wire i'm using is poly-nylon coated, so the solder doesn't stick to it and if i heat it long enough for the coating to melt it damages the plastic bobbin the pin is pressed into by heating. How did you get around this problem? Greetings from germany!
Nifty project! Do you think it would be possible to use a single humbucker/mini-humbucker (one in which you could split the coils, anyway) as the driver instead of two single coils appart from one another like you've tested?
Top bloke! Gr8 idea made simply with what appears to be "idiot-proof" instructions. I would like to put that to the test. All I need is one of your kits.
The coils need a little space between them otherwise they interfere with eachother too much and it dosent work. I show that in another video: th-cam.com/video/P-QXopi2QIA/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=189
The switch on the board is a 3-pole jobby that enables / disables the circuit and puts it in overtone/regular mode. So you can either use the switch or you can use digital logic on the control pins, it is exactly the same either way.
Doesnt things with polarity, on alnico pickups, mess with it and get yoj out of phase like... Forever until you have to use big magnets to fix the polarity?
This is really cool! Have you used different types, strengths, or a combination of both variations of magnet in the design? If so, what were the results?
@@DaveyMulholland I was laughing at the two pickups laying on the guitar strings... I have to build that thing. Years ago I used an Ebow for a Velvet's inspired feedbacky "Cale-violin"-drone, just a blast to use, albeit slightly limiting cos of time it takes to make the string resonate.
Sir, If you make the metal cores A-shaped or wedge shaped, like a flat-tip screwdriver. You can have a stronger magnetic field, within / coming from that smaller space!
Hey there! Instead of making a structure to hold this hardware over the guitar, have you considered to make a pickup sized version of this device? Something like a Sustaniac system. Because that'll be dope
Yes, I ship to UK. You can select UK from the country list at the top of the page. Just put anything, perhaps the county e.g. Surrey, in the State field to make the form gods happy. I will validate the address when I purchase the shipping label.
New Sub from me! and just ordered mine! I will be trying to design some different enclosures with height adjusters and such. So if i get something solid i will shoot it over to you!
@metalmarshmallowllc when I bought my 6505--brand new--i blew a fuse but didn't know that. Took it to the Peavey maintenance dude in Fresno CA where he showed me the simple issue 🤦🏻; however, this was a man of git-fiddle genius. He incorporated a slick little pickup over his whammy and it was clean...did some magnet shit for his finger too to get a wild chorus n delay...
I was too lazy to take my guitar apart which is why I just mounted extra pickups on top. I guess it was a "exercise left for the reader" type situation. I might have to make another video where I actualy follow through and put it all inside the guitar body.
You said this works with a pickup wound to 8ohms as a driver. Have you seen this diy driver? th-cam.com/video/5LDmc8TkSKg/w-d-xo.html If so, have you tried it with your board? It is wound similar to your coils and is a knockoff of the sustaniac driver. It looks to me that you're simple board with that driver could be the ticket.
Ebow is the name of a company that makes sustainers like this one. They are a cool company, but their sustainers are hard to tinker with and embed in custom projects, which is why I made this one.
@@metalmarshmallowllc you're making a magnetic bow, not a sustainer. a sustainer is only starts vibrating a string when a signal is present. like, while a person has already played a note. hence, sustaining. this is not that.
![Fulgorian Harp: [1] Guitar Sustainer Amplifiers](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/f75oSGKe4gM/mqdefault.jpg)
very cool of you to open source this, this will be high on my way to long list of projects to start
Wow that song at the end! Can't wait for the full version (please release it soon :P)
sounds like a Bach choral piece. Love it.
What an amazing project with excellent documentation/instructions! Thanks for putting this out!!
Amazing work, especially with pickup sustainer
It's so overwhelmed... 😮
Homemade Ebow...neat. Now to print a housing for it on a 3d printer.
Nice Work. Did Something similar as student approx. 10 years ago, but more the Fernandes sustainer approach, where the Neck Pickup also acts as an inducer. Used a cheap empty pickup bobin plus the "Ruby" amp as a Driver circuit dir an own coil, worked Like a charm despite trying out the inducer coil gauge and length manually.. however I never did a PCB as I later bought an actual Fernades FS40x kit
Wonderful, ordered one - can't wait! Well done and thanks for sharing
Elegant design, lots of potential. Great work.
As you mentioned this is Ebow technology. I think a lot of your answers will come from investigating The Sustaniac. It is an integrated guitar sustainer.
Excellent work. I like the way you think. I'd love to see a sustainer for multiple strings ( like all 6 or more )
Thank you for the video and all your hard work that's gone into this project! I would buy at least one right now if I were smart enough to know with confidence how to wire this into a guitar.
Haha the inductors... have polarity because they aren't used here for their inductance, they're used as driver and pickup voice coils. It should be immediately obvious to everyone that speakers and microphones have polarity, and these are fundamentally the same, just without the acoustic bits.
Well polarity might be the wrong word, phase perhaps.
Maybe if you rename them to voice coils instead of inductors, people will stop putting them in every which way and being surprised when the device doesn't work?
The chords! Sounds are amazing. I'm imagining a set up on an autoharp. Wouldn't that be interestingly tedious. But I bet the chords would sound awesome. EDIT Or am I just being the victim of my own hubris? lol Great job, genius bro.
An outstanding build!
This has been done. Awesome idea. However, you need to incorporate this sustainer on the wammy bar. Then yer in
😉🤘🏻
Do you know the lengths of the wire that were used to make each inductor.
youre the man! u give perfect instructions! i wish i wasnt too dumb to try it.. but i subscribed. ill keep learning from u until a project pops up i feel capable of hopefully2 thanks again.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to use the guitar pickups as the source of input signal? And you could also induce the vibration of the strings with a big single coil installed underneath the strings somewhere around the neck (or above them, if you don't want to cut a hole in your guitar). Then the next step would be just to hide the circuit inside the guitar and you'll get a fully functional guitar with accessory sustain mode
fernandes sustainia pickups already did, this is a better way to use the experience on any guitar
I gotcha bro, right here -- 5:44
@@metalmarshmallowllc sure, i've seen that, but the input coil there is additional. Doesn't it work with just signal from inner guitar pickups?
@@ТокаревМихаил-и9к Oh, yes, I see what you are saying. That should be possible, I was just too lazy to take my guitar apart which is why I put some other pickups on top, but in principle I could have used my guitar's existing pickups.
they way you hold and approach the strings with the Ebow creates all sorts of effects from bowing to horn sounds. You can't do that kind of dynamic attack using a fixed position sustainer. Sure you get the polyphony but you loose the expressve features that you would get say, with a pick or bow. Listen to the Ebow examples on line and you'll hear what I mean.
Great job! Very clear and thorough
Thank you sir! 😁 Fantastic work!
Impressive project!
Hi, i have a question about the inductors. I try to build similar coils right now, but i'm having trouble soldering the wire onto the pins in the bobbin. The wire i'm using is poly-nylon coated, so the solder doesn't stick to it and if i heat it long enough for the coating to melt it damages the plastic bobbin the pin is pressed into by heating. How did you get around this problem? Greetings from germany!
Hey nice! Question, could i use the LM386 instead of your IC in this schematic? Thanks!
What is the chip amplifier you are using? I've made many of these ebows using the LM386 chips which were used in the original ebows.
Nifty project! Do you think it would be possible to use a single humbucker/mini-humbucker (one in which you could split the coils, anyway) as the driver instead of two single coils appart from one another like you've tested?
So it's a make yourself e-bow? 🙂Cool! Great idea mate 👍
Top bloke! Gr8 idea made simply with what appears to be "idiot-proof" instructions. I would like to put that to the test. All I need is one of your kits.
Thanks so much for this, is it possible to build this into the guitar?
do i assume correctly that when it is powered with a higher voltage (like 12 or 16) and enough amps, the magnetic field it generates is stronger?
...because i need need need an overpowered e-bow.
also, huge thumbs up for making this open source!
Nice going my dude. Very cool.
Can you relocate the inductors into a dummy humbucker?
The coils need a little space between them otherwise they interfere with eachother too much and it dosent work. I show that in another video: th-cam.com/video/P-QXopi2QIA/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=189
Could you replace the "Regular" button with a two-pole switch so that it also enables the circuit?
The switch on the board is a 3-pole jobby that enables / disables the circuit and puts it in overtone/regular mode. So you can either use the switch or you can use digital logic on the control pins, it is exactly the same either way.
Doesnt things with polarity, on alnico pickups, mess with it and get yoj out of phase like... Forever until you have to use big magnets to fix the polarity?
Is there any way i can buy the complete circuit board on it's own?? Thanks 😊
Gotta make a nice case for this. Nice work!
Yesssss, I can add it to the open source project if you do!
This is really cool! Have you used different types, strengths, or a combination of both variations of magnet in the design? If so, what were the results?
I'm wondering how powerful is this sustainer compared to an E-bow?
is it more powerful than original ebow? in terms of it's ability to engage strings
I had to go back in time to get that shot at 0:44 after I uploaded the video
Is that a hidden function of this thing? Time travel?
LOL! I actually had an original E-bow, years ago... nice piece of kit
What's funny?
@@DaveyMulholland I was laughing at the two pickups laying on the guitar strings... I have to build that thing. Years ago I used an Ebow for a Velvet's inspired feedbacky "Cale-violin"-drone, just a blast to use, albeit slightly limiting cos of time it takes to make the string resonate.
Sir, If you make the metal cores A-shaped or wedge shaped, like a flat-tip screwdriver. You can have a stronger magnetic field, within / coming from that smaller space!
Hey there!
Instead of making a structure to hold this hardware over the guitar, have you considered to make a pickup sized version of this device?
Something like a Sustaniac system. Because that'll be dope
more windings for the thinner strings, the Sustainiac or the Fernandes Sustainer splittet the DriverCoil...
Bravo!
Very cool! A right corker indeed. 😂
I really want to try and hook one of these up to my synth rack via CV.
Maybe try using it on a spring reverb tank too.
Yep, you've invented the eBow. I love those fucking things.
Can you do a comparison to the circuit in the VEYZ sustainer kit, which seems to work as reliably and musically as the bigger names?
perhaps you could?
as an alumnus of University of Surrey (and born and bred Guildford) i am so happy rn
Haha, I used to work at CVSSP!
Thank yuo boa eltroni guita !!!!!!!❤
Fantastic
Off topic, but nice 7620VK. If you ever decide let it go, I call dibs.
Hiya - Trying to order this but your store won’t allow UK check out (gets stuck at ‘add State Province’). Do you ship to UK? Really want one of these!
Yes, I ship to UK. You can select UK from the country list at the top of the page. Just put anything, perhaps the county e.g. Surrey, in the State field to make the form gods happy. I will validate the address when I purchase the shipping label.
Thanks = I tried that but it continued to respond with ‘fill in correct state/province’ information. Not sure what’s going on.
@@BillThompsonSoundArtist I added a listing on Etsy if that is easier: www.etsy.com/listing/1735494081/mm-diy-sustainer
roundelay patents, by floyd rose and rick knotts
Awesome!
can you build a bigger one ? my guitar is 12km long
Hahaha yesssss!!!!
Ничего со слов не понял, но идея хорошая. Вечшый сустейн, шестиструнный орган))
New Sub from me! and just ordered mine! I will be trying to design some different enclosures with height adjusters and such. So if i get something solid i will shoot it over to you!
cool project! :)
Or build the ultimate noise box with those😁
I did, its on my other channel! th-cam.com/video/1IDEIXW61Yk/w-d-xo.html
@metalmarshmallowllc when I bought my 6505--brand new--i blew a fuse but didn't know that. Took it to the Peavey maintenance dude in Fresno CA where he showed me the simple issue 🤦🏻; however, this was a man of git-fiddle genius. He incorporated a slick little pickup over his whammy and it was clean...did some magnet shit for his finger too to get a wild chorus n delay...
I built my infinite sustain mod with a 1 dollar pam audio amp board. I rewound the middle pickup for 8 ohm because i never use it
This already exists, it's called a Sustaniac.
You must make play this guitar to a good rocker
why not just build one into a guitar body or pickup
I was too lazy to take my guitar apart which is why I just mounted extra pickups on top. I guess it was a "exercise left for the reader" type situation. I might have to make another video where I actualy follow through and put it all inside the guitar body.
Is this like an ebay.
It's like an eBow 🙂
You said this works with a pickup wound to 8ohms as a driver. Have you seen this diy driver? th-cam.com/video/5LDmc8TkSKg/w-d-xo.html
If so, have you tried it with your board? It is wound similar to your coils and is a knockoff of the sustaniac driver. It looks to me that you're simple board with that driver could be the ticket.
I haven't tried it but it looks like it would work!
🤍
so, an ebow, not a sustainer. :(
Ebow is the name of a company that makes sustainers like this one. They are a cool company, but their sustainers are hard to tinker with and embed in custom projects, which is why I made this one.
@@metalmarshmallowllc you're making a magnetic bow, not a sustainer. a sustainer is only starts vibrating a string when a signal is present. like, while a person has already played a note. hence, sustaining.
this is not that.
I would not face a magnet to a pick up, as it changes the magnetic behavior of the magnets in the pick up and ruins their voice.