Hebrew nonsense? Is that what you said? Interesting use of words there. You do understand that the Meprolight is made by Israel, and is being used in Gaza to eliminate Hamas…probably one of the only dots in this examination that is actually being used today in actual combat, aside from the EoTechs.
Agreed. That or help your dude out with his audio/ speaking. I understand that the camera is a mirror and mirrors are for women. It takes either a feminine man or a brave man to be on camera. Teach your homies to be brave
"I have never seen an aimpoint break." I finally gave in and bought one this year due to the ungodly price. Broken out of the box. Aimpoint tried to blame me, then I had to go lawyer mode on them (I am an actual lawyer). Issue, front glass improperly glued, could not see through the front glass b/c there were mountain ridges of epoxy all over the front glass. I suppose it 'worked' if you want to split hairs. EDIT: I have also had an issue with xtpro, but not as pissed b/c it is $500, and it was such a minor issue, don't even remember what it was....Oh...the shake awake was not that sensitive on an FDE version, had to give it a little tap when I picked it up sometimes.
It also has absolutely paltry battery life, no shake awake either. They also have issues with nitrogen purge failure and they constantly have delamination issues. They were S tier when fifteen years ago, but they need a swift kick in the ass because they're resting on their laurels big time.
@@donjohnson5172delaminate issue is way overblown, battery life is an actual critique, and shake awake on rifle optics is a worthless gimmick. These are talking points of someone who is parroting the terminally online ar15 thread browser that doesn’t actually shoot or have any telecom experience
Literally, nearly every single dot was followed with “never used it” 😂 especially when they came around to the Holosun thermal, I have one, it’s actually really good for the price. But hey F tier or wait no…D
@@FocusTrippgiven the sheer number of red dots you included, there were bound to be some slip ups. The Strikefire II is the worst red dot I’ve used from a “quality” manufacturer.
The MRO is undoubtedly the worst dot I’ve ever used and the fact that the other dingus likes MROs tells me everything I need to know. It’s literally a red smudge. No experience with the updated versions but it’s genuinely bad. PS, I have 20/15 vision in both eyes and no astigmatism.
23:30 _"I think the (holosun DRS-TH) effective range of that thermal is thirty something feet"_ I attempted to varify the effective range for this optic. The distance "68 meters" is floating around on multiple forms but no one seems to know where that number originated from. Though, personal opinion, I think it's poor taste to rank optics that that neither of you guys have personally used.
4XT/4T Pro is imo the best red dot on the market right now, better than the T2. 8T is right up there too but just heavy. I own both and absolutely love them. Also incredible for passive aiming under nods.
I don't know if I would go so far as to say it's the best but it is certainly up there, is the durability really as good as a T2? I don't know. I'm pretty happy with mine though I'm also happy with my T2.
cmore railway is extremely popular for steel challenge. huge window, the dot is actually super clear even with astigmatism, no fisheye, unnoticeable parallax, you can change the dot size from 2 to 16 moa by just swapping the 50$ emitter...the whole optic is 250-350$
@@FocusTripp i see. Price/durability/feature vise it is one of the solid contenders. And yes open emitter is one of its weakpoints if you have crawl a lot in muddy environments. Solid video and thanks for this huge effort. Much appreciated.
The C-More is definitely dated and originally designed for primarily competition shooters in mind, but I used one frequently on a dept. issued Colt 635 mounted on a gooseneck for the better part of a decade with zero issues with somewhere around 25k-30k round count using that combo. I forget exactly what specific model it was, but it had the metal housing and an 8 moa dot. And those blowback colts are notorious for eating optics like a fat girl near an unguarded cheesecake.
Price really should be a considered factor. You consider on and off here and there but bang for buck matters a lot. Not everyone is using these for SHTF
@@AncientMorbidity1991 but it is not nearly as feature rich. If you love the eotech reticle or you like the auto off/auto on feature the 4XT PRO is your best bet
@@wisco_guy I personally have 2 that have been excellent and I think our swat team are about to buy 20. So I’ll have a decent sample size to see how they hold up
Romeo 5 in C tier is blasphemy. It is probably on more guns than most of these other options. Sure it’s not the best quality but throw it on a $20 UTG mount and you have a very good red dot for the value. Good vid as always 💯
Romeo5 has been tortured against the T2 quite a bit and it holds its own against that T2 very well for the price point. Never had a issue with my Romeo5 optics and definitely feel it should be higher than C
21:01 I have a couple Burris FF3- I purchased them at $135 and a bit more with the ARF3 mount. Low bloom for my astigmatism eyes, seem durable enough especially if you have the metal ARF3 mount. Probably have 1000 rounds of 9mm & 223 one one- 2000 rounds of 22LR on the other. Very simple operation but not shake awake. C tier by your categorization, I’d go A tier if you include value. Perfect for a Ruger Mk4 or PCC if a Romeo5 feels too big
Love my 4T Pro/Scalar 1.93 mount on a Virtus. Switched from an 8T on a Sidelok. The weight savings for no real functional difference is just ridiculous...but I will say, the 8T just *looks* so much cooler. And the UH-1? Maybe I got a good one because it's just a peg or two below my Eotechs.
Just wish SIG programmed their "NV" button better or just left it out of the design. It's way too easy to accidentally max out the brightness in the dark. I still miss the Circle Plex reticle as well.
Can confirm that the 4T PRO & 4XT PRO have QC issues. I bought one, had emitter issues, had to have it RMA'd 3 times over the course of 12 weeks before getting the correct replacement, and the replacement had issues with the buttons not working correctly. This is my first and last Sig optic.
This is 7 months after the stream, but I have a 4XT Pro. The first 4XT Pro I had experienced the battery drain issue. Sig gave me a brand new one which has been perfect. As far as the OG 4T, the first varients of those had blue tinted glass that was very bad. The newer 4T has the same glass as the 4T pro. Also, the AEMS is A Tier. It survived the Sage Dynamics drop tests and is nearly as good as EOTech under NV.
The eotech 512 that couldn't handle the recoil of a 9in 300 blackout was just a dud because I had one on a 11.8in 308 and shot well over 1k rounds with the 512 attached probably closer to 2k and it worked great. Now my 512 sits on an 11in 556 and I have run probably double the amount I ran with it on the shorty 308 and it is still functioning perfectly.
Glad you got a good one! Mine had contact issues on 556 and 9mm AR where it would shut off every round. Got a replacement contractor and still failed but less often. The nitrogen purge also failed and can’t quite make daylight bright. Contacted EOTech and they wanted ~$100 to look at it. Love it when it works but was hoping for better from my experience.
Only 2 surprises. I was a little shocked how high up the rating tier the strikefire was and I would assume the gen 2 is also rated that high also? Secondly I was surprised the UH-1 fell down to the mid tiers? I have a gen 1 and gen 2 and like both especially the gen 2. Enjoyed last nights comparison and looking forward to lpvos next. You have become one of my go to optic review channels, keep the great content coming. Also would love to see your opinion of the new gideon optic s lpvo.
I probably would have put the Strikefire down lower in retrospect. I have had a chance to look through it and I think the reticle is simpler than most people will like.
@@FocusTripp its unusual, but it works well because its a ghost ring rear and a hooded front post. the rear ring and the front hood are both circular in share and its very easy for your eyes to line them up. idk why they went with the feather winged front sight protectors on the AR, a rounded hood would have been much better.
The Vortex Strikefire II is D tier at best. 4 moa dot and unless you have the brightness on max the refresh lags so bad you can notice yourself losing track of the dot going too fast from target to target.
If Gary only likes the MRO because it's a dot he can see clearly, and it's the only dot he would personally buy, why is his opinion valid after that point? If it's the only dot that matters to him, what purpose would the others serve? He should make an astigmatism tier list then. :p
C more is S TIER…. for competition shooting. The metal C more are unrivaled on a non reciprocal mount on pistols and on rifles. I wouldn’t trust it in combat but would recommend it for shooting
Only complaint I’ve had with the 4xt is the battery life. I’ve had it for 1.5 years and I’ve replaced the battery twice. I would attribute it more to using the circle dot reticle than to QC issues.
After watching this I think a cool video idea would be the same thing but for retro red dots/optics such as old aimpoints ultradots early tasco propoints armson oeg elbit falcon and so on
Who told you the CompM5 doesn't get bright enough? Never seen that in a video and being an owner of both, it gets just as bright as a T-2. The CompM5 has fewer daylight brightness settings, so the gap between levels is larger, but it's just as bright at max. CompM5 is basically a downsized CompM4 to be more in line with the size of the T-2. CompM4 is a "full size" red dot, so it's not surprising that it costs as much as it does. It probably costs Aimpoint more money to make than the CompM5 or the T-2.
I hope your right Tripp, I still kinda want one. Granted I lost my benchmade at work sometime this morning and it never popped up soooo it’s gonna be a min now before I can afford it😢
10:55 "Aimpoint Pro has 15,000 or 10,000 hour battery life." It's 30,000 hours. Comeon bro, literally no rifle red dot still in active production in 2024 has only 10,000 hours. Not trying to be a jerk, but I did enjoy the rest of your video. I just really like Aimpoint Pros.
Not a holosun fanboy in any way, only have experienced the HS510C. But to say they are equivalent to Iron sights seems pretty dumb? Any tool that speeds target acquisition and retains zero has to be higher... Its just logic...
@FocusTripp you can magnify the new HD models but the original, and the pro patrol are actually not a true 1× power it is like 1.1× power because the front window and back window are different sizes when you put a magnifier in front of it, there is distortion the dot turns into a small line.
@@FocusTripp I agree, but to not add a simple $20 feature is pretty sad. The industry and the consumers need to do better to make manufacturers aware that if they want us to spend $500+ on a red dot then it needs to have better technology than a $250 holosun.
I did get one Romeo 5 that the red dot went out. Got a replacement and it’s perfectly fine. And two other I’ve had are working perfectly but ig that’s expected for a very budget ( still “good”) red dot
I thought I could buy a cheap red dot when I got out of the Army, then I found out why they use Aimpoint, Trijicon and Eotech. Because I have astigmatism.
Used prices are a bit different on a lot of those $450-500 - 4XT pro $550-600 - 8T $500 - MRO HD Etc etc etc you get the point lol i suggest Tacswap or GAFS buying from reputable people on there
@@FocusTripp cool! Excited to hear what you think. It has been working well on my 10.3" 300 blackout. I have been testing the battery and its been running for almost a year now without turning it off.
@@FocusTripp s tier of course. You guys didn't discuss the fact it comes with incredible mount. Best night vision glass. Holographic reticle so if glass does break, you can still use it. And arguably tougher than the aimpoint t2. Depending on who you ask in gwot, some would tell you they never saw a failure with it, but did with T2. 3rd in line on confirmed kills behind elcan and acog. And to be honest battery life isn't that bad. Would be perfect for LE. Every video of an officer grabbing his rifle needs to put a round in the chamber and can turn on the optic at the same time. Not to mention every grip almost has storage for a battery and it takes 30 seconds to swap and flashes couple hours before dying.
About the UH-1 (Gen2). I dont get how u say it is wore than eotech in every single way. Its the opposite way. Better batterylife (1500h vs 1000h), its actually lighter than the eotech and the glass quality is great. No blue tint whatsoever. I guess u had the gen i in mind because that was actually trash. Yes the refresh rate is slower but thats the only thing. AT LEAST deserves b tier
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Hebrew nonsense? Is that what you said? Interesting use of words there. You do understand that the Meprolight is made by Israel, and is being used in Gaza to eliminate Hamas…probably one of the only dots in this examination that is actually being used today in actual combat, aside from the EoTechs.
The intro is always awesome
Thanks!
I was thinking the very same thing. Acid strong.
Still probably my favorite intro to date!
*Finishes intro, sets notifications to all.
Based
This is the type of intro my autism can appreciate
What type of art do you make?
man, this brings me back to calling my grandma overseas, complete with the lag and polite 'go ahead' whenever josh starts talking and then nods off.
haha
I gotta say, Brass Facts' face over Chani(Zendaya) is an actual improvement to the Dune films.
agreed
1000%
When Gary defended the MRO I was thinking "this guy has fucked up eyes so the fucked up glass in the MRO looks good"
Lol love the guntuber version of Dune to start off, great content as normal
you gotta start doing these alone or with hop or brassfacts…
Agreed. That or help your dude out with his audio/ speaking. I understand that the camera is a mirror and mirrors are for women. It takes either a feminine man or a brave man to be on camera. Teach your homies to be brave
Agreed lol
We are making improvements.
@@FocusTripp he had some good points ❤️
"I have never seen an aimpoint break."
I finally gave in and bought one this year due to the ungodly price. Broken out of the box. Aimpoint tried to blame me, then I had to go lawyer mode on them (I am an actual lawyer). Issue, front glass improperly glued, could not see through the front glass b/c there were mountain ridges of epoxy all over the front glass. I suppose it 'worked' if you want to split hairs.
EDIT: I have also had an issue with xtpro, but not as pissed b/c it is $500, and it was such a minor issue, don't even remember what it was....Oh...the shake awake was not that sensitive on an FDE version, had to give it a little tap when I picked it up sometimes.
What model of aimpoint was this?
You can get 2 Aimpoint T2s, and a SPUHR mount for them for less than the Romeo 9T.
Not putting Eotech in S invalidated the discussion. If the glass breaks it still works BTW. it has ranging and is actually usable under nods
It also has absolutely paltry battery life, no shake awake either. They also have issues with nitrogen purge failure and they constantly have delamination issues.
They were S tier when fifteen years ago, but they need a swift kick in the ass because they're resting on their laurels big time.
@ shake awake seriously 😒
He makes some valid points. Companies that were great a decade ago just think they can fart out anything and we should be happy
@@donjohnson5172delaminate issue is way overblown, battery life is an actual critique, and shake awake on rifle optics is a worthless gimmick.
These are talking points of someone who is parroting the terminally online ar15 thread browser that doesn’t actually shoot or have any telecom experience
Hop is the lisan al-gaib of optics
Don't belive the false prophet!
There is only one true messiah and his name is C_DOES!
Hop is still king of snarky night vision content though..
Now stars doth weep in silent woe, As Theoden's spirit begins to go. To halls of old, where heroes dwell, His name in song forever to swell.
That intro was fantastic!
This video is the equivalent of virgins rating condoms…little to no experience!
💯%
Literally, nearly every single dot was followed with “never used it” 😂 especially when they came around to the Holosun thermal, I have one, it’s actually really good for the price. But hey F tier or wait no…D
Fun video to listen to. But the fact that the strikefire II landed higher than things like the Romeo 5 is a crime against humanity.
Yeah I agree. I should have put it down in D.
@@FocusTrippgiven the sheer number of red dots you included, there were bound to be some slip ups. The Strikefire II is the worst red dot I’ve used from a “quality” manufacturer.
Also, I blame my producer.
The MRO is undoubtedly the worst dot I’ve ever used and the fact that the other dingus likes MROs tells me everything I need to know. It’s literally a red smudge. No experience with the updated versions but it’s genuinely bad. PS, I have 20/15 vision in both eyes and no astigmatism.
James and Kevin in the hot tub was content I didn’t know I needed 😂🤣. Well played sir, well played
23:30 _"I think the (holosun DRS-TH) effective range of that thermal is thirty something feet"_
I attempted to varify the effective range for this optic. The distance "68 meters" is floating around on multiple forms but no one seems to know where that number originated from.
Though, personal opinion, I think it's poor taste to rank optics that that neither of you guys have personally used.
I think that is a fine take, I wouldn't take our opinion seriously when we don't have experience anyways.
4XT/4T Pro is imo the best red dot on the market right now, better than the T2. 8T is right up there too but just heavy. I own both and absolutely love them. Also incredible for passive aiming under nods.
For the money they are probably unbeatable.
I don't know if I would go so far as to say it's the best but it is certainly up there, is the durability really as good as a T2? I don't know. I'm pretty happy with mine though I'm also happy with my T2.
cmore railway is extremely popular for steel challenge. huge window, the dot is actually super clear even with astigmatism, no fisheye, unnoticeable parallax, you can change the dot size from 2 to 16 moa by just swapping the 50$ emitter...the whole optic is 250-350$
That is such a niche application but I am glad it works there.
Only issue, drop it on the ground :/ I say this as I own one with 2, and 8 moa emitters.
Hamburger hamburger hamburger cheeseburger 😭😭 on GAY DIE prime😭😭this mf had me laughing ina public place
I chronically watch all the gun tubers and just watched the Dune movies for the first time……. That intro was the greatest thing I have ever seen
510c is a solid B tier. Works great under nods too.
I just don't like big open window dots.
@@FocusTripp i see. Price/durability/feature vise it is one of the solid contenders. And yes open emitter is one of its weakpoints if you have crawl a lot in muddy environments. Solid video and thanks for this huge effort. Much appreciated.
Hop is right about that dual illumination mepro.
My buddy bought one and it lives on his meme rifle.
The C-More is definitely dated and originally designed for primarily competition shooters in mind, but I used one frequently on a dept. issued Colt 635 mounted on a gooseneck for the better part of a decade with zero issues with somewhere around 25k-30k round count using that combo. I forget exactly what specific model it was, but it had the metal housing and an 8 moa dot.
And those blowback colts are notorious for eating optics like a fat girl near an unguarded cheesecake.
Ha, good to hear!
PRO and Romeo 5 deserved to be bumped up a tier. 2nd hand market for PROs and COMPs all day long for cheap.
Used market does change things up a little.
Last part of the intro should be a video framed on the wall,
*chefs kiss*
:)
Aimpoints all automatically go in F tier for requiring a spanner tool to adjust your turrets.
Umm what model ?
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader last I checked, all of them.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus I ran the comp series for a decade and that's not true
That intro was truly outstanding.
Price really should be a considered factor. You consider on and off here and there but bang for buck matters a lot. Not everyone is using these for SHTF
Sure but that's something that you can factor in for your own buying decisions.
Sick intro!! Thanks for these lists! Romeo 8T is nowhere to be found anymore!!
I don't know what their issue is.
In my opinion the Romeo 4XT PRO is the best small profile red dot on the market. Most features available for the price. They’re great
agreed if QC issues are resolved.
You can get a T2 For about $60 more than the 4XT PRO and have more confidence in the QC.
I own THREE Romeo 4Ts, all work great!
@@AncientMorbidity1991 but it is not nearly as feature rich. If you love the eotech reticle or you like the auto off/auto on feature the 4XT PRO is your best bet
@@wisco_guy I personally have 2 that have been excellent and I think our swat team are about to buy 20. So I’ll have a decent sample size to see how they hold up
Romeo 5 in C tier is blasphemy. It is probably on more guns than most of these other options. Sure it’s not the best quality but throw it on a $20 UTG mount and you have a very good red dot for the value. Good vid as always 💯
lol, I see more Holosuns than Romeo 5's used. C tier is fair for the Romeo 5!
I run one on my scar17💀… never failed me nor shifted
Romeo5 has been tortured against the T2 quite a bit and it holds its own against that T2 very well for the price point. Never had a issue with my Romeo5 optics and definitely feel it should be higher than C
@@demon_milk_man8686 Drop a link of the Romeo 5 going against the T2, lol
@@AncientMorbidity1991just search the torture test
Into was pure climax for people who joined in late. Holy cow
21:01 I have a couple Burris FF3- I purchased them at $135 and a bit more with the ARF3 mount. Low bloom for my astigmatism eyes, seem durable enough especially if you have the metal ARF3 mount. Probably have 1000 rounds of 9mm & 223 one one- 2000 rounds of 22LR on the other. Very simple operation but not shake awake. C tier by your categorization, I’d go A tier if you include value. Perfect for a Ruger Mk4 or PCC if a Romeo5 feels too big
Love my 4T Pro/Scalar 1.93 mount on a Virtus. Switched from an 8T on a Sidelok.
The weight savings for no real functional difference is just ridiculous...but I will say, the 8T just *looks* so much cooler. And the UH-1? Maybe I got a good one because it's just a peg or two below my Eotechs.
Love the chonks of the 8t. But for 99.9% of people the 4t is better.
Just wish SIG programmed their "NV" button better or just left it out of the design. It's way too easy to accidentally max out the brightness in the dark.
I still miss the Circle Plex reticle as well.
Too many people upset with red dots that use AA or AAA batteries when these batteries are available in lithium
I like AAAs
Making Brass into Zendaya is funny af
Can confirm that the 4T PRO & 4XT PRO have QC issues. I bought one, had emitter issues, had to have it RMA'd 3 times over the course of 12 weeks before getting the correct replacement, and the replacement had issues with the buttons not working correctly. This is my first and last Sig optic.
This is 7 months after the stream, but I have a 4XT Pro. The first 4XT Pro I had experienced the battery drain issue. Sig gave me a brand new one which has been perfect. As far as the OG 4T, the first varients of those had blue tinted glass that was very bad. The newer 4T has the same glass as the 4T pro.
Also, the AEMS is A Tier. It survived the Sage Dynamics drop tests and is nearly as good as EOTech under NV.
The eotech 512 that couldn't handle the recoil of a 9in 300 blackout was just a dud because I had one on a 11.8in 308 and shot well over 1k rounds with the 512 attached probably closer to 2k and it worked great. Now my 512 sits on an 11in 556 and I have run probably double the amount I ran with it on the shorty 308 and it is still functioning perfectly.
Glad you got a good one! Mine had contact issues on 556 and 9mm AR where it would shut off every round. Got a replacement contractor and still failed but less often. The nitrogen purge also failed and can’t quite make daylight bright. Contacted EOTech and they wanted ~$100 to look at it. Love it when it works but was hoping for better from my experience.
I wouldn’t mind seeing ir laser tier list. It would be insanely spicy
I think Hop and Brass did one.
Only 2 surprises. I was a little shocked how high up the rating tier the strikefire was and I would assume the gen 2 is also rated that high also? Secondly I was surprised the UH-1 fell down to the mid tiers? I have a gen 1 and gen 2 and like both especially the gen 2. Enjoyed last nights comparison and looking forward to lpvos next. You have become one of my go to optic review channels, keep the great content coming. Also would love to see your opinion of the new gideon optic s lpvo.
I probably would have put the Strikefire down lower in retrospect. I have had a chance to look through it and I think the reticle is simpler than most people will like.
my fav iron sight set up is a a2 rear and a hk style front sight. the 2 work really well together
ha, weird.
@@FocusTripp its unusual, but it works well because its a ghost ring rear and a hooded front post. the rear ring and the front hood are both circular in share and its very easy for your eyes to line them up. idk why they went with the feather winged front sight protectors on the AR, a rounded hood would have been much better.
The guy got so but hurt the MRO isn’t ranked high… he must own one
Let’s get an LPVO tier list
It's on the list.
The salt will flow on that one for sure
They’ll rank a CVLife one the highest for sure.
I have a holosun with the acss reticle on it. It looks great under magnification!
What do yall think about the strike fire vortex 2?
lol love the intro
Pretty cool! Thanks!
The Vortex Strikefire II is D tier at best. 4 moa dot and unless you have the brightness on max the refresh lags so bad you can notice yourself losing track of the dot going too fast from target to target.
Yeah I should have put that lower.
If Gary only likes the MRO because it's a dot he can see clearly, and it's the only dot he would personally buy, why is his opinion valid after that point? If it's the only dot that matters to him, what purpose would the others serve? He should make an astigmatism tier list then. :p
Another fun one! Thanks for the share!!
Glad you enjoyed it
C more is S TIER…. for competition shooting. The metal C more are unrivaled on a non reciprocal mount on pistols and on rifles. I wouldn’t trust it in combat but would recommend it for shooting
Is it better than other big window dots on a pistol?
Only complaint I’ve had with the 4xt is the battery life. I’ve had it for 1.5 years and I’ve replaced the battery twice. I would attribute it more to using the circle dot reticle than to QC issues.
That is kinda what I have heard as well.
Thats definitely due to the circle dot
The intro had me grinning the whole time.
Take a shot every time they talk over each other challenge (impossible)
You will die, we have stuff to work on.
The red dot in mw1 was the Chinese copy ultradot pan AV same in mw3 the mw2 sight was an oversized doctor red dot sight
Thanks!
@@FocusTripp thank you for the based tier list
After watching this I think a cool video idea would be the same thing but for retro red dots/optics such as old aimpoints ultradots early tasco propoints armson oeg elbit falcon and so on
I would have to get Hop on for that. I know so little about none new stuff
@@FocusTripp that would make it even better so now I really hope it becomes a thing
Missed the Vortex Sparc Solar. Actually has a usable refresh rate, T1/T2 footprint and good battery life and NV settings.
True, actually decent.
Haven't seen the video yet but I already liked it 💪
I love the thumbnail rankings
Those are the fun ones.
Huh. I would actually like a red dot with a trackable elevation turret for production class competition
Who told you the CompM5 doesn't get bright enough? Never seen that in a video and being an owner of both, it gets just as bright as a T-2. The CompM5 has fewer daylight brightness settings, so the gap between levels is larger, but it's just as bright at max.
CompM5 is basically a downsized CompM4 to be more in line with the size of the T-2. CompM4 is a "full size" red dot, so it's not surprising that it costs as much as it does. It probably costs Aimpoint more money to make than the CompM5 or the T-2.
Forgot the holosun 515 series
I didn't like my 515gm
The romeo 8t practically doesn’t exist because it is unobtainium. They’re all being shipped overseas(I imagine)
Should be coming back soonish
I was looking like 2 months ago, it had that same lead time and none have popped up in my in stock notifications, got an exps 3-1 instead
I was wondering why I couldn't find them, thanks.
I hope your right Tripp, I still kinda want one. Granted I lost my benchmade at work sometime this morning and it never popped up soooo it’s gonna be a min now before I can afford it😢
Send me a PM. Got one to move.
Awesome intro 🏆
The MRO in green/yellow is super clear, weighs nothing, and many consider it to be as durable as an aimpoint
10:55 "Aimpoint Pro has 15,000 or 10,000 hour battery life."
It's 30,000 hours. Comeon bro, literally no rifle red dot still in active production in 2024 has only 10,000 hours. Not trying to be a jerk, but I did enjoy the rest of your video. I just really like Aimpoint Pros.
The AK is very much a modern platform you just need to spend 2-3x more on it to get it battle ready compared to an AR it’s very much a sugar baby
Only 2-3x?
I didn't watch this, but I did give you a like.
Thanks!
Brother where's the Vortex sparc/crossfire 2 and the primary arms t2 clone? Both so solid
I would have probably put them mid/high
Not a holosun fanboy in any way, only have experienced the HS510C. But to say they are equivalent to Iron sights seems pretty dumb? Any tool that speeds target acquisition and retains zero has to be higher... Its just logic...
They are above it in C tier, Iron should be bottom of C tier.
MRO Patrols with kill flash and caps is a great red dot, BUT you can not magnify it.
why not?
@FocusTripp you can magnify the new HD models but the original, and the pro patrol are actually not a true 1× power it is like 1.1× power because the front window and back window are different sizes when you put a magnifier in front of it, there is distortion the dot turns into a small line.
@@justanotherinternetexpert7743 ahhh
The sad fact that these high end S tier optics still lag behind with an auto on/off feature is ridiculous.
That's a nice feature to have, but having better glass and build quality is better.
@@FocusTripp I agree, but to not add a simple $20 feature is pretty sad. The industry and the consumers need to do better to make manufacturers aware that if they want us to spend $500+ on a red dot then it needs to have better technology than a $250 holosun.
I did get one Romeo 5 that the red dot went out. Got a replacement and it’s perfectly fine. And two other I’ve had are working perfectly but ig that’s expected for a very budget ( still “good”) red dot
I have heard of those same issues. definitely less QC.
Omg lolllll introooo perfection
No aimpoint Comp M4 or M5 :(
No worries, those tanks are S tier all the way
Bro you completely glossed over the fact that the foresight has a crazy heads-up display that is completely bizarre and unique haha
Comp m5 is def bright enough, it just doesn’t have as many levels so it makes bigger leaps between settings .
Big wiff on S tier. T2 is not worth the money. Romeo 4xt pro is king of the mountain at its price, features and performance
I thought I could buy a cheap red dot when I got out of the Army, then I found out why they use Aimpoint, Trijicon and Eotech. Because I have astigmatism.
You put the spitfire over the MRO HD and equal to the huey and Romeo 5… I’m disgusted.
Yeah, that's way too high.
Just for this intro alone I subbed.
Used prices are a bit different on a lot of those
$450-500 - 4XT pro
$550-600 - 8T
$500 - MRO HD
Etc etc etc you get the point lol i suggest Tacswap or GAFS buying from reputable people on there
Painful video. Can you two not constantly try and talk over each other and then follow it up with dead air?
No
@@FocusTripp fun 👍🏻
Curious what you think about the CTS-1000 red dot. Way better than the one you put on this list in my opinion.
Maybe I will pick one up.
@@FocusTripp cool! Excited to hear what you think. It has been working well on my 10.3" 300 blackout. I have been testing the battery and its been running for almost a year now without turning it off.
TRS-25 is C tier for sure. Rugged, daylight bright, cheap, and crawled so all those clones could run.
I agree if we made the list 5+ years ago.
@@FocusTripp fair enough
Order the AEMS directly from Scalarworks for around $450 installed and place it in A tier....
Really feel the EXPS3 deserves S Class status but then again no normie is ever going to watch and base their purchase on thie video. 😂
I hope not. I think the EXPS 3 is the best optic for glass and passive aiming, but not everybody is into that sort of thing.
Never had an issue with my swampfox justice with over 5k rounds through it
Good to hear.
That intro was an absolute fucking masterpiece.
Romeo7 is an incredible value, both clear and extremely durable. It's definitely a class above C tier. Can't agree with this.
I like the Romeo 7
No way you guys disrespected the eotech exps3 like that.
Top tier?
@@FocusTripp s tier of course. You guys didn't discuss the fact it comes with incredible mount. Best night vision glass. Holographic reticle so if glass does break, you can still use it. And arguably tougher than the aimpoint t2. Depending on who you ask in gwot, some would tell you they never saw a failure with it, but did with T2. 3rd in line on confirmed kills behind elcan and acog. And to be honest battery life isn't that bad. Would be perfect for LE. Every video of an officer grabbing his rifle needs to put a round in the chamber and can turn on the optic at the same time. Not to mention every grip almost has storage for a battery and it takes 30 seconds to swap and flashes couple hours before dying.
1:39 praise be Allah
Hamburger, cheese burger, big mac, whopper
Erm Achktually the trijicon mgrs is 66.9oz making it the heaviest red dot sight on the market ☝️🤓
😂😂😂😂 intro is hilarious
About the UH-1 (Gen2). I dont get how u say it is wore than eotech in every single way. Its the opposite way. Better batterylife (1500h vs 1000h), its actually lighter than the eotech and the glass quality is great. No blue tint whatsoever. I guess u had the gen i in mind because that was actually trash. Yes the refresh rate is slower but thats the only thing. AT LEAST deserves b tier
I am glad it works for you.
excellent intro!