Ranking the DOOM Eternal Bosses from Worst to Best
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DOOM was the best first person shooter I've played in my life, and then DOOM Eternal happened. My DOOM Eternal review: a thrilling rush from start to finish with one the most hyper-focused, polished, and immensely fun combat systems in years. The bosses on the other hand, are hit or miss. I'll detail it all in my DOOM Eternal Boss Ranking from Worst to Best.
I'll be ranking the DOOM Bosses on their quality, including the Khan Maykr boss fight, Doom Hunters, Icon of Sin, The Marauder, and Gladiator boss battle. As for the hardest bosses in DOOM Eternal - that's for you to decide. Check the survey above so we can rank the Doom Eternal Bosses from Easiest to Hardest together! I hope you enjoy today's video, and if you do, be sure to subscribe for more boss rankings. Also check out the video essay up top where I discuss the importance of video game difficulty, featuring DOOM.
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Marauder isn't that hard for me.
*It's just that dang blood hound that keeps putting teeth on my screen*
Dog is the worst part other than that the boss is easy
I wouldn’t mind a larger window. The dogs not to bad I just use a Grenade as soon as it spawns.
Lucky Rice The first time I fought him was ridiculous. I couldn’t fight him. Compared to the last time I fought him, I was ashamed. They’re actually really easy to fight.
Sanch No dirty it’s a steep learning curve but it’s one that when you master you didn’t know why you failed in the first place
Deklen Herbert Exactly!!
YoU CaNt JuSt SHooT A HoLe InTo ThE SurFaCe Of MaRs
Objective: shoot a hole into the surface of Mars
Anything Hayden says that he can't do
Doom Slayer: Watch me
Hayden's soooooo regretting giving this madman demigod status.
Hayden: DON'T DO THE THING!
Vega: I have made it possible for you to do the thing
@@randocalzonian4756 and probably giving the father form again
@@sionteemo9697 Observe.
If this is your own gameplay in the background then I can see why you think the marauder is unfair.
He did say that is his blind playthru.
I was thinking the same thing lol This was also a blind playthrough for me and I just got better as the game went on.
he used the plasma rifle for a majority of the game
I guess in this case blind playthrough means he was playing with his eyes covered. He could work for IGN based on this gameplay lol
@@pospecc13 If that's the case, then he's a god gamer for beating the game with his eyes closed
This guy just likes spraying at everything with the plasma gun, no wonder he's having problems
It was my favorite weapon in the game
@@davidalexsandermoreno5532 It may be, but you can't use it in every situation and it isn't even the best over all weapon
Yeah he complains about having to chainsaw for ammo and having low ammo all the time for these bosses
@@dyno9973 hmm. Well oddly enough, when I played it on nightmare on my first playthrough, I thought it was useless. Until I got into that fiery pit with all of those demons and began using it more. It soon became my favorite because of how versatile it is. You can kill doom hunters with this gun alone.
@@davidalexsandermoreno5532 exactly
and it also has a lot of ammo in eternal terms
The backstory for the doomslayer was literally there to show he was the original doomguy
Is this supposed to be some type of negative criticism
vol Rogue No, because it's true.
Yeah but I still love the lore and think it’s low key underrated, most people keep on shitting on it only because they think doom traditionally shouldn’t have an in depth story because well.... it’s doom and all they want to do is run and gun like an arena shooter, but why can’t it have a good in depth story? I most certainly enjoyed the story for doom eternal and the true origin of the doom slayer as well as all the codex entry’s on the knight sentinels, ARC, how dr Hayden is a actually a maykr etc.
@@conorlbest because they don't want to much change. I love the story of doom eternal.
@Jonathan Shepherd I dont remember it ever outright saying hes a makyr in the game or in a codex but it is heavily implied that he is the Seraphim Makyr. Probably something they'll reveal officially in the plot of the next game or maybe even dlc for this one
One thing this game's "story telling through words" established for me, confirming it even more so than 2016 in my eyes, was that the Demons are utterly terrified of the Slayer. A being alien to them, with God-like strength, speed and fury.
The infinite lesser Demons spawning into the arena can be seen as a mere nuisance in what would otherwise be a one-on-one boss battle, but once you delve deeper into the *DOOM* lore, and find out how the Slayer got his title, and how the Demonic hordes came to fear him the way they do to this day, it gives rise to another possible perspective for the player:
*Even Hell's mightiest creatures, the supposed pinnacles of power of this race of interdimensional conquerors, who have consumed countless worlds in the past, ARE TOO AFRAID to face the Slayer in single combat, choosing to rely on lesser Demons to create openings for them to attack this green armored monster that THEY are currently fighting.*
A dual sided mechanic. One for the Boss to get to attack you without the constant deaththreat of staring into a Super Shotgun barrel, and a way for you to mix up the gameplay loop a little with some chainsaw pinata action.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
The Bloody Crow of Cainhurst yes you put it into words. Doom has a lore to it which defines why the fights are as they are.
Except that the true boss in the room is the doomslayer :v
ngoc kien hence the awesome music it’s all gods music
It's not a boss fight for you, it's the demons coming up against a boss all of them are yet to defeat.
Civv said it best:
You don't have to survive The spider Mastermind, the spider Mastermind has to survive you. Your the boss fight now
"Doomslayers back story"
Its confirmed that doom 1, 2, 64, and the comic are canon and indeed the same doom guy.
It also confirmed Doom (2016) is Canon and also the same guy
jigsaw's game really? I wouldn’t think so.
@@jareduklist5908 I'm just making that point as I have met many people who thought they were 2 different people
jigsaw's game I understand, it was just a joke
Doom 3 is also canon because of the soul cube
I don't get the hate for the marauder, everytime he shows up it's a highlight for me. Taking the whole game up a notch, he could've shown up earlier.
Supershotgun, Balista. rinse and repeat
ToTeGi I think it’s because people don’t know about that weapon combo. On nightmare it is essential even for the icon of sin.
@@dominickchuka5387 I never used that combo, it isn't "essential," even on Nightmare. However, I still managed fine, so it's just people not understanding how to fight him
Cause fools don't wait for the opening. Just look how he's fighting him.
RiNsE aNd RePeAt
@@kaspies8150 basically, yea
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Best Weapon against Demons:
1. -Holy Hand Grenade- Doomslayer
Spoiler: He IS the Holy Hand Grenade.
Ah yes, the only weapon that can surpass the BFG - the ASPHHG, Autonomous Self-Propelled Holy Hand Grenade, a.k.a. Doomguy
Doomslayer holding the Holy Hand Grenade.
@@oldreaddy3341 Doomslayer with a hand grenade that has doomslayers in it, yes
But what if that demon was
*A BUNNY*
Khan Maykr: *the floor is lava*
She was so impossible 4 me to beat
Icon of Sin: *hide and seek*
@@hasarutoetensakey7091 2 lock on rocket + bllista and she down after bloodpunch snipe the drone for quick resources and do it again
Khan makyr was a joke if you used the Unmakyr like a smart human.
Khan Maykr was just an unfair boss
It's kinda crazy to see a guy complaining about a boss being too hard when he built his entire career off of Dark Souls
@Nikzedik wow your an elitist dick aren't you?
@@vegitoblue3613 He is being a bit of a dickhead about it, but I don't disagree. I mean, this dude was literally out here saying that the Marauder was the worst enemy in Eternal. That's just sad, honestly. Just look at his gameplay, he barely uses any guns other than the Plasma Rifle and Super Shotgun.
@@samirsadaf2145 I know he's awful at the game I'm not disagreeing but this guy is being a dick
@Nikzedik How many comments have you replied under to complain that he isn't good enough for your standards? I agree that he's not an expert at this game, and maybe relies too much on plasma rifle, but you seem to have some kind of bone to pick with him. He did say this was a blind playthrough, and he says in multiple videos that he's learned things from twitch chat that he never knew. Being a "casual" isn't a bad thing. Most of the audience for video games in general are casual. We can't all be speedrunners at every game we play.
He is becoming more a games journalist, and by default, he is becoming terrible at playing games, lol..
I feel like any and all complaints summed up to “I don’t like lore” or “this aspect made the fight too hard.” Just an observation
Yea, these people aren't as good as they think they are and it bothers them so therefore it must be the game designs fault. I literally had no problem with the Marauder or how he played. His eyes go green, shoot with the ballista-stun-shoot again, do that 3 times and he's dead. I died more times from the Doom Hunter than I did the Marauder.
I'm familiar with his channel through the Dark Souls series, and it surprises me that the text driven lore is one of his complaints.
Facts. Lol.
A huge issue I have is most people don’t understand the Marauder fight. Firstly, his dog only spawns when his shield is hit (either by you or other demons). It is a punishment for wasting ammo. Secondly it isn’t like his eyes never flash green. There isn’t some magical middle zone to sit in, you run away and bait him to run after you, when in which he is vulnerable. It isn’t a bad enemy, people just don’t know how he works
There are a few valid issues with the marauder but the main one is the way the game tells you to fight him is one of the worst ways you can fight him
Doom Eternal has some great boss fights.
Doom Eternal’s story isn’t confusing and doesn’t make you lost without the codex, it tells your everything you need to know and the codex is just more on top of that.
I don’t think the enemies took away from the gladiator boss, since they are just there.
and even if the enemies take away from the bossfight. the super shotties chain should mitigate the most of that as you can be done with them in a second and move on focussing on the boss
Kelis 98 it is confusing for most people. Even playing through doom 2016 and reading all the codexs. The first half is mildly confusing. Who is the makyr? How did doom guy get to the fortress of doom. What has he been doing since 2016 doom. It’s not the most confusing thing in the world, but there are some questions that go unanswered.
Harry Cole read the codex
@@hcole3201 Codex answers every one of those questions.
Play that fight on nightmare and those enemies that are just there are chipping 20% of your health per hit while the boss is attacking you.
Icon of Sin is the ultimate execution of the idea that started with a wall-face started in Doom 2, as if '90s Id had a modern engine to work with. One of my favorite boss battles of all time.
By the lat stage its so intense because of the fucking cacodemons and pinkys lol its fun though you get to abuse the crucible which was a lot of fun because we got it so late
I must be in the minority, but I found the Icon of Sin boss painfully dull and tedious. It was a long slog of "run around and shoot the huge thing."
OKAY, maybe I'm just bitter because they spent the whole game teasing me by showing all these big mechs, and then make the final boss a big-ass titan, but don't let me drive a giant mech suit to fight it. 0/10!
Christoph13131 I completely agree, absolutely hated it. Definitely the worst boss fight for me.
@@ChristophelusPulps Giant mechs are reserved for Wolfenstein, don't you know
It was an annoying fight really boring and not fun.
"Did we really need a backstory on Doom Slayer?"
Not necessarily, but it was fucking awesome and got me even more pumped
Phrieksho Industries RIP AND TEAR
Hey your the first guy I've seen display your opinion in a non-asshole manner good job
His backstory isn't even complex, it's "man literally too angry to die is made even more angry by angel woman"
Really not much has changed. He’s still nothing but a guy who lives for spilling demon blood and ransacking hell, his new backstory just introduces more characters to expand the universe and gives him more reason for hating hell so much besides the fact that they killed his rabbit and he’s a hardcore Catholic
@@theinternetpolice2078 the greatest tldr of the doom slayer backstory I’ve ever read
"Ranking Doom bosses"
Are we forgetting something?, Doomguy is the only true boss in every Doom game, the demons are the ones hearing boss music when he's around.
How are you in every video I watch comment section
shut the fuck up
@@rvril up fuck the shut
@@angryGinger62 fuck shut the up
Am i the only one who thinks if the demons had control of them self's they would run from the Slayer
I swear it feels like he recognizes the games mechanics one min then forgets it and sounds like Uper Echelon the next...
I get what you mean, he hates other mob on some bosses and the requirement to use chainsaw.. but on another boss he's fine with it.. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Yeah i mean the marauder is the easiest boss to fight in the game, you just need to learn the mechanics, just watching this dude pull out these stupid arguments for losing while showing gameplay where he fails to dodge 4 times, and misses 3 easy shots is just sad
@@manoa8415 "I played on normal to help standardize to the average player" sounds like a massive cope with what you mentioned.
@@manoa8415 yeah that was so fucking weak, watching him try to run away with his back turned was hilarious, then watching him just beef shots/shoot at him for no reason was worse. I played my first runthrough on ultraviolence and genuinely didn't understand the hype around him. He's definitely a potent enemy in a group cause of the focus he commands but that was honestly really fun (and still easy to deal with. Run away and kill everything else first). I genuinely can't imagine struggling against him in his introduction/a 1 on 1
Smithsoniantf2 The biggest issue I had was the game explained everything EXCEPT for the fact that the wolf appears every time you shoot his shield. I didn’t find that out until after I finished the campaign because my dumbass found a way to hit his shield on a consistent basis that made the wolf spawning seem timed.
Honestly see nothing wrong with the marauder...as I encountered him more I found that I enjoyed fighting him the most out of all demons
Exactly, I never even had a hard time with him. Use the Ballista and kill him in 6 shots. Eyes go green, shoot-stun-shoot. Do that 3 times and you'll blow him to pieces. The guy in the video sucks at the game. Mind you he was playing on NORMAL and having that much of a hard time..
I completely agree with you, while at times i grit my teeth in frustration (i'm kinda bad) that he is hard, after every time i beat him i revel in, is he hard YES, but is he fun, also yes, hes harder than the doom hunter, faster than the icon of sin, but smaller than all of them making him a doom demon, Hugo martin (not word for word but implied) made the marauder the doom slayer of demon kind, and when you fight him you feel like how a demon feels after they killed the doom slayer
Foreal! It's fun encountering him. At first I hated it but then started to love it lol
People who complain about the Marauder usually just complain about his difficulty. Instead of saying what they are doing wrong look at yourself and then you’ll see why blasting the plasma rifle at him is a dumb fuck idea
bruh my man complaining about marauder while I'm over here being able to defeat the marauder with careful movement and balancing the ammo, health, and shield. Not to mention that he is on PC, I'm on PS4. He shouldn't be complaining about the marauder when he himself doesn't understand the doom dance.
Why are people complaining about cutscenes they don’t last long and they also give you a little break and they give the game a little more story the game shouldn’t be constant action non stop
The cutscenes are also skippable
There only super often early game too
Because they're litteraly a bunch of bellands. The lore for Doom Eternal was the best in any Doom game. It really added a great story. People are dumb and want just some simple dumb dumb shoot shoot and don't want brain to work. That's why he's complaining about the Marauder because with that fight you actually have to have a brain and he doesn't want "brain to work >:("
Boston Towny4life I agree I like the marauder fight makes me feel like a badass ever time I fight him
bcs story,cutscenes and same fucking animation for picking energy core have NO place in DOOM game. DOOM is supposed to be CONSTANT action,always was and always shoud be,it seems bad in this one,bcs game puke so many trash mechanics,that it makes combat actualy boring after a few hours. Game lack FLOW and its mega noticable in all trash BOSSES where you have to litarly stop killing and wait for green light to pop.... WHAT THE FK.
this list sounds like it was written after playing the whole game on a difficulty somehow lower than i'm too young to die
LampOwl agreed, this video is not accurate at all.
XD
@@dominickchuka5387 Couldn't agree more. lol. I mean, just for example: Khan Maykr was probably the easiest boss fight in the game for me. Marauders were far worse until I got down hot weapon swapping. Doom hunters are kinda scary because of their exclusivity and large appearance, but they're nothing more than really big meat and shield walls. Gladiator was probably one of my favorites in terms of a classic boss fight. I also heard a lot of complaining about taking focus off of the bosses to take on fodder enemies... they're literally just walking ammo. What's so bad about them exactly?
Nicholas Smith I agree with you. Maybe people think fodders are annoying? They can be deadly but only on the highest difficulties. But yeah doom hunters are just tedious to kill but aren’t hard, blood punch and ice bomb is the best way to go I find. Marauder is weak with weapon switching. The gladiator was a cool boss fight as well. His appearance reminded me of the original baron of hell.
On nightmare the only bosses i died to a few times were the doom hunter amd final boss. Khan maykr and gladiator were a joke fight. Marauder is an actual nightmare to deal with in large packs
When are you ranking the animal crossing bosses
Number one
*TOM NOOK*
Why does all the people from animal crossing have to ruin videos on Doom with their dumbass comments?
delicious LSD Honestly. Doom is a game. Animal Crossing is in the same category as Sims. Yeah it’s a “game” but it doesn’t even deserve to be in the same medium as other games.
Number one: Crippling Debt
@@TedTeddison99 Why does other people having fun make you so upset?
I guess it’s just me, but I found the Marauder “boss” fight to be extremely fun. It was the first time I was introduced to an enemy as fast as I was, and that forced me to change pace in what I think is a good way. Instead of my typical shoot-scoot-loot dance, I was on my toes, reacting to every little movement he made with three of my own. I spent most of that fight blasting rockets and shotgun-grenades at him, wildly dashing around the arena, taking my eyes off him only long enough to finish the chainsaw/glory kill animation. It felt like a deadly dance between two beings that both far surpassed even the greatest of demons. It’s worth noting that I had my tutorials turned off the whole game, so I didn’t know about his “green eye flash opening” until I had already beat him and found him again in the enemy rotation, but that’s mostly because I wasn’t paying attention for tell-tale signs and was too focused on out-dancing my partner.
Personally I’d give the Marauder a 4 out of 5 in quality as a “boss”, and a 3 out of 5 as an enemy.
Edit since I somehow forgot about it: I didn’t have too much of a problem with the Wolf, since I was constantly using explosives, but I did find the Wolf to be a nice way to keep the player on their toes even while trying to put distance between you and the Marauder in the later incarnations of him, if not a little on the weak side since only a few plasma rifle shots decimated it.
i know it's a bit overused but like in soulsborne sekiro and thats the reason why i like this boss but only the battle i hated every fight where this enemy type was used
No, I think that the Marauder is a good boss, but I think it is one that you need to understand the the princpiles of the gameplay in order to beat it. Additonally, the Marauders serve as an interesting foil towards the Doom Slayer in a gameplay fashion. Most enemies are either fast strikers with weak health or heavy tanks that can be dodged easily. However, the Marauders are defensive fighters meant to engage duel-like combat for the Slayer, which is an interesting counter as the latter is more inclided to an offensive focus in combat.
I think most people, including me, would agree with you if it weren't for one thing...
Wolf.
It’s really not that bad. People need to chill with it.
If this enemy was in dark souls, people would be praising it. I think people did not expect “mindless” doom to end up kicking their teeth in. As for the dog, I love it. It keeps you on your toes and forces you to change your strategy.
I remember when I first fought the murader, i was so angry with the difficulty insisting that it was unfair. Then over time I learned HOW to fight him, the "Doom Dance" as Hugo Martin puts it, and he slowly became my favourite enemy!
People say that, but for me when the marauder shows up the "Doom Dance" stops and the "Repetitive Marauder two-step" begins. Before you get the timing down the marauder is frustrating, after you figure it out the marauder is boring and annoying. I'm glad other people enjoy it though.
Nicky Knifestab you can kill a marauder in like 30-40 seconds. If you get bored after 40 seconds of a fight, then that’s your fault.
Josh Hector Heck, most good players can kill him in 5-20 seconds, he's barely an inconvenience
@@neganick boring and annoying? Mate you still haven't got the timing down then.
@@neganick Enjoy him or not, at least you know how to destroy the Marauder, which I can respect. Better than the guy in the vid who whines about the Marauder being too hard.
‘Enemies take away from the boss fight’
And in first place, The Icon of Sin! The least difficult boss in the game where you’re fighting mobs more! Wow what a genius
Easiest? I found Khan, hunters, and the gladiator far easier. And I think the distinction is that the enemies feel like they should be there for the Icon fight. With Khan and the gladiator it felt like a 1v1 that was ruined with extra variables from the encounter design philosophy, but with the Icon it felt like there should be more enemies. I mean after all, it is the final encounter of the game, and a boss that leaves you in an empty arena because it’s literally separate from it would feel very weird being the only enemy there.
I struggled with the icon of sin way more than the other bosses
The icon is so frustaiting. His attacks left you with 30 hp even if you have the maximum armor and health... And that is with one punch. Even the gladiator and khan maykr is easier than the icon.
How in the hell did you people struggle with the icon there is RESPAWNING CRUCIBLE AMMO any enemy causing trouble ex. Cyber m. Pain elemental can just be ont shotted and then boom no struggle the fodder is just that fodder even on nightmare just don't stand still the icons attacks are stupid telegraphed what could you possibly struggle with multi tasking?
Actually the Kahn Maykr is easier
The Marauder was HARD when I first fought him, but every subsequent time I gained experience with his moveset and it got easier and easier. It was never truly easy to deal with but bareable is the best description. I can appreciate the difference in his design and how he links to the slayer but man... the dog, the shield... FUUUUCK!
Scorpio McClymont every time I heard him spawn I ran until everything else was dead but when he’s chasing you he takes so much health he body blocks you with the dash and dog can body block as well he’s just scary and exactly what Hugo wanted was accomplished
@@Heavenly_Son Exactly what I did. I felt the gap between his dashes and swings was EXTREMELY tight to manage.
Fuck that god damn dog. I have spoken
Need to either get rid of the dog or the shield, or nerf the dogs bite, the way it causes you to move at 1/2 speed for a short time is brutal
I really think the shield is the worst part. Every other shield in this game and in Doom 2016 can be overpowered, so to make one that can block supers is just going way overboard in my opinion. If you ask me, something has to give for this fight to feel fair: either let me overpower the shield in some way so that I can use my supers on him, (seriously, I went through the work to get the unmaker!) make him have a longer tell like Dmod said, or let me fight him one on one. I think they almost had something with this enemy, but in my opinion it takes me too far out of the "Doom tango" to be fun.
But Icon of Sin has never been a mono-e-mono battle. Atleast this time, he isn't just chained down.
Fun fact: the icon of sin in eternal was the developers wanted
In doom 2 but couldn’t due technology limitations. Now? We are fighting the Icon’s true form. And I can’t help but to feel like he’s pissed at us. Not the slayer US! Considering we humiliated him, it’s understandable
Still though honestly the icons fight was just a massive headache
Only way it could've been better was if the environments were destructible from the Icon's attacks.
This sound like the ranking of somebody who played the game in "I'm too young to die"
"Make the window bigger" nah man git gud
@@Pulley-oj3ki Ah, the best thing to say to deflect criticism
@@boshwa20 You're damn right it is
The point of doom is to have fun being a powerful God of anger. The only people who dis on those who like to set it on easy are those who want to validate spending so much time getting gud.
@@jacobsalmi5582 bruh no need to get sensitive
Tip: hit the marauders and the gladiator only when you see the green. The dog only comes out if you shoot the marauders shield
I thought the dog came out when you got to far?
@@TiredTransbian No he is right the dog only comes out if you shoot the shield or he blocks enemy cross fire I can confirm that
I know about the green I eyes I’m big 🧠
damn, i didnt know that the dog came out when you shoot his shield. The dog always annoyed the fuck out of me
@@FrostFlies the game is full of shit like this which makes it sick
You talked about Doom Slayer not needing a backstory but this game barely gave him one. The only thing we really learn is that the Doom Slayer is actually the same character as Doom Guy from the original games which is just fan service.
Dr. Madd Well we also learned how he got stuck in hell and How he got his powers
Is the guy from doom 3 the same too? Or is he separate from all the games?
Jared Richard separate
I think Doom 3 was retconned into a prequel to doom 1 at some point. So, yes.
Also it’s really not that hard to catch on to Doom Eternals Story. Plus if it’s not your thing you can skip it but it was great for the people who love the character and this universe
Captain RJ preach 🙌
Agreed, the "lack of traditional storytelling" in 2016 is what caused me to be indifferent to it at times, like yeah killing hordes of demons is good fun but if there's no explicit reason or big enough stakes what's the point? In Eternal you feel like an unstoppable legend because of the way the other characters react to you and the way the story explicitly tells you that you are all that stands in the way of the extinction of humanity.
PrettyDamnDandy 100 percent. The context adds a lot
I fucking love the lore in eternal, it just makes the player feel like we’re taking control of an unstoppable force of nature
Learning you’re playing as the og doomguy and he’s nearly literally a demon killing god and learning about the history of hell, sentinels, and even the introduction of the maykers makes the game way better. A way to auto skip cutscenes and making the unskippable cutscenes would be really appreciated though
"Marauder needs nerfing..."
The Marauder is a twisted, demonic mirror of The Slayer; he's designed to be able to go toe to toe with you, and possesses the tools to do so.
His shield is the immovable object to your unstoppable force.
He nullifies damage in the same way you can with glory kills and chainsaws.
His high speed is a means of not just demanding your attention, but forcibly taking it.
Ignoring The Marauder is like finding demons in-fighting; they make for easy kills because their attention isn't directed at the more immediate threat in the room.
His wolf is a method of punishing you for not acknowledging the previous statements.
He only spawns his wolf when you either attack while his guard is up, or refuse to engage him.
Just like how the demons have to respect your presence and play by your rules, so too must you respect the Marauder's presence and play by his rules.
I agree
Yeah, and you shouldn't nerf a single player game anyway. If it's too hard, *oh fucking well.* It's a boss fight, it's meant to be hard, so that your skill can beat it. This guy makes me sick, whining for 20 minutes about how he doesn't like how the hard demons are hard.
@@xerorgg we all know it's his opinion but the way he talks about it makes me and many others feel like he hasn't gotten a good feel for the game yet. And so some of us including myself, get mad that some people put out such opinions because they don't like the way this thing is (murader in this case) and ruin it for all of us by demanding nerfs for a single player game.
I normally keep him in check while fighting other demons . Like he's (for me) one of the easiest demons to 1v1 and slightly harder with other demons. Like I played in ultra violence difficulty. And honestly I love the marauder . It's such an awesome fight with him each he pops up. I actually get sad when I take one out to early with getting constant head shots with my ballistic/shotgun combo
Actually the dog spawns from shots hitting the shield it’s a punishment for wasting ammo not being a coward it also spawns from enemy shots
Most of his criticisms are “I don’t like lore”
Darth Poptart so true this guy is a hater that doom has good ass gameplay and they are trying to improve the game by making a real story
@@gagec781 I don't think he said that. He said he didn't care about story.
Lore in games are like a storyline for a porno, you expect it to be there but really isnt neccessary for a good game.
@@jacobsalmi5582 True, that's why you can always just ignore the codex entries and cutscenes. People complain about Sentinel Prime being a lore dump with a boss fight when it takes 10 minutes to get to the Gladiator if you don't pay attention to the lore
@@jacobsalmi5582 that is totally dependant on the game. Doom doesn't absolutely need it. But other narrative heavy games have deeply moving stories and so I would disagree its only ever meant as window dressing.
I love the fact that the marauder fight is kind of Bloodborne-ish. You dodge each other's attacks and you must parry him when you see that green flash. Once you did that he is vulnerable and open to punish. He is much, much harder to deal with when there are tons of demons around and he demands your attention like the girl you forgot to call.
It takes practice, but the fight can be trivial if you parry him with the Super Shotgun and switch to the Ballista and back. Repeat it and he is done for.
Or parry him with the Super Shotgun and melt him with the Unmaykr once you have it. It can kill him less than 5 seconds.
I'm not even sure that's the intended design and it is a good design or not at all.
The one reliable strategy to kill him effectively is to cheese the hell out of him as fast as possible.
At the very least he can be a worthy opponent.
I think the marauder could be an absolutely classic video game enemy if they just made his shield possible to temporarily disable in some way. With his shield being completely invulnerable except during the super small counter window I feel like he kills the flow of combat until he is dealt with. Especially when he walks around arenas with it up and just sends his dog after you. An idea I've heard some people offer is to have the blood punch disable his shield for a short time, while leaving all of his other combat capabilities the same, or like demod said, increase the counter opening, dump the dog, up damage a bit and lower health just a tad
But it is ineffective by the crusader which is a one shot
I think they should have allow you to break his shield with the plasma gun and make his attacks slower. That way you could actually be offensive against him with the plasma gun and then react when he attacks by switching to the SSG to stun him instead of just waiting for him to attack you. Though it is true that it would make him a bit too similar to the Doomhunter at least he'd suit Eternal's pace more
i think he should have better tells tho. i mean his sword beam is real fast and his shotgun is faster then light (im fine with the shotty tho as you arent even supposed to get close enough for it to trigger
He doesn't deserve that attention when there's multiple demons around. He deserves the amount of attention that a sjw asks for while screaming your a pig. Murder them all then use him like a sex toy after a hard days work
The Icon of Sin is definitely the best for me. I love how the game has been teaching you little by little its mechanics, making you understand that each weapon has its pros and cons and that they all come to be your answer to whatever a big fight throws at you, with bigger and tougher enemies being more common as you progress through the levels. And it all leads to the Icon of Sin fight, where throughout its two phases you are attacked by hell knights, mancubus, revenants, barons, pain elementals, whiplashes, almost the entire roster, which keeps you on your toes while you fight the Icon. What's more, it's not unfair either due to the arena providing you with multiple resources in the form of megahealth spheres, regenerating blood punch and crucible pick-ups, and multiple jump pads to fully use the map's verticality. Finally, it's even more special to me as a fan of the OG Doom games, where the original Icon of Sin was just an environmental hazard that spawned enemies, it's nice to see how far our goat boi has got.
I agree
Way better than the all too constrictive Icon of Sin that we had to live off of in the Brutal Doom mods.
I don't know man.... in the first half I kept getting knocked off the arena. It was really disorienting and I could barely tell wtf was happening half the time.
You can just spam crucible against every enemy. Sin fight was disappointing
TheAnimeRapper ... You know you can choose not to spam the crucible, right? I barely used it in my play through
It makes me so mad how many time he shoots the marauders shield
He hates the dog but he constantly spawns the dog by shooting the shield
Thank goodness someone said it. Like if you're gonna bitch about the dog at least understand why the dog comes out.
It was his first blind playthorugh
@@cinnamontoastboi4017 true but he shouldn't have shot it regardless
umbrella operative ghost
Tru
No, please don’t get rid of the dog. The marauder really is not difficult and honestly it was annoying hearing you whine about how he needs to be nerfed.
He doesnt need to be nerfed, but I'll be damned before I admit hes not hard, he fucked me up so many times
The dog is punishment for you spraying at him. It only spawns if you shoot his shield. The dog should stay😤
@@aarondev3218 Yeah, all the dog complainers also spray at his shield like theres no tomorrow. If i had to nerf him, i would have it all the same, but the dog takes its hp from him to spawn. Easing up a smidge on the uninitiated while still rewarding proper behavior against him. But that's just how i would do it. Or make his shield just mitigate 90% of damage he takes while it is up. That way, you can still beat him traditionally, but you aren't forced to. Just that you will hate yourself if you try that way.
At first I was also mad at the Marauder and found him way too difficult, until I found out how he works. Now he's pretty easy and goes down in about 20 seconds if you do it right.
My only real complaint I have is that the hitboxes seem a little buggy... sometimes I shoot him when his eyes glow green and nothing happens. Then he just hits me and follows up with another attack right away. It really feels like my shots just go right through him sometimes.
OneDoomedAngelo you’re not wrong, that has happened to me too. The super shot gun pellets sometimes go through his body. It’s annoying but with the ballista that doesn’t usually happen.
"Doomslayer really needs a backstory?"
Hhmmmm... yes! Stop crying.
He might as well be a buff stick figure if you dont care about the story.
if you don't like the backstory, skip the cutscenes. simple as that. nobody's forcing you to read all the exposition pages in sentinel prime
jason voorhees the cutscenes are basically just to say doom slayer is doom guy
He needs a better backstory*
Exactly, the story and lore to Doom Eternal was absolutely fantastic and I'm a 25 year long Doom fan. These people are just dumb and what everything to be brainless dumb bullshit. That's why these same people are whining about the Marauder fight, because with that fight you actually have to use your brain and "NO WANT USE BRAIN!!!! >:((( NO LIKEY BRAIN!!! >:("
Doom Eternal was amazing. One of my fav shooter games I've ever played, and this is coming from someone who barely plays shooter games.
@Attack on titan will blow your head off Metal Gear Rising was a great game. Armstrong was my fav fight (no surprise)
@Attack on titan will blow your head off I hope we do get a sequel for MGR, I wanna see what they can cook up for the next game.
Same more of a fighting game guy
i completely agree, this dude doesn’t even understand how amazing this game really is with all the development in the story and gameplay that the bosses introduce, all this guy thinks about is the fact the bosses and the story stops him from ripping and tearing. he’s trash asf if that’s the way he wants to play a perfect game, then he can rot in hell. i’m pissed at this video
@@melkope6494 not gonna lie dude same boat I see a lot of people complain about the Marauder but at least it was something new to the franchise and story and codex for some lore if you do read were pretty cool. Some bosses were alright tho overall good doom game.
I remember hearing about how hard the marauder is, but when I finally got the game for my birthday, I died maybe twice on the first encounter. He’s no cake walk but the super shotgun and ballista work like a charm against him
"The game is hard"
Yes
He’s either playin on I’m too young to die or lower n complaining
@@BasinofVows745 boy did you watch the video? He said it's on average and a first time play-through. Can you not handle different opinions
@@unknownchicken2284 Gotta love that difficulty shaming.
@@unknownchicken2284 Lots of people here cant handle different opinions like 95% of comments
Well, how else were they gonna confirm that Doom Slayer is in fact the original Doomguy from 1,2, and 64?
Yeah it served to shows that doom 2020 and 2016 weren't remakes but continuations
@@rileyblair7273 Sick now I can call them Doom 4 and Doom 5 and be technically correct.
The Icon of sin was by far one of the best final bosses I've faced. The absolute horror of fighting this huge demon made me shiver in excitement, on top of all the ammo pickups for your sword and chainsaw. Makes you feel like the true Doomslayer in the end
4 Bored Guys all of the heavy demons become straight fodder due to the sword, they get taken out so quick that they almost stop being a threat allowing u to focus on the icon of sin, at that point I felt like thats what the doomslayer was like in his prime when all the legends were written about him and we got to experience a taste of that power at the tail end of the game
@@arielramos9614 Exactly
I agree, the gladiator for me felt total bs, on nightmare his attacks basically one shot you and they are near impossible to dodge, Kahn maykr was way to easy because of the insane amount of health you get from the drones, and the other two didn’t even feel like bosses
“Recommendations from twitch chat”. Yeah your plasma rifle isn’t the only gun in the game, no wonder you (need) Marauder to be nerfed.
I use the plasma rifle for crowd control only if I'm facing off big demons though I tend to use the rocket launcher, super shotgun or ballista, and for bosses I use the minigun and mini rockets as they deal a ton fuck of damage
@Nikzedik holy shit you're pathetic dude
@Nikzedik dude ur signing below every comment that talks shit about democracy, prob just because he criticized a game u idolize way too much. He always said this is his opinion and not the objective truth so why be so fucking butthurt, you are legit fucking pathetic
@Nikzedik No I'm not a gaming channel nor do I intend on becoming one, I'm at a university I'm well happy with thank you very much. The reason why I would upload is I have some Friends that would enjoy watch me play overwatch, over time tho I started uploading stuff I found cool to keep as memory cause I wanted to keep it but not bloat my ps4 memory, I had a good bunch of ppl already ask me if I have a yt channel and I always say no. The fact ur judging and attacking me based on some shitty videos just further proves how much of a pathetic human scum you are and have no actual decent arguments to back up your claims, people are gonna have different opinions no matter how much you cry and bitch about it, get a life will ya
“Does Doomslayer really need a backstory”
Do you really think that a man who is feared by the entirety of hell and demonic monsters, has extreme endurance, will, and strength, and has literally murdered a titan that is 500 feet tall wouldn’t have a backstory? It would confuse people why and how the Doomslayer came to be and would be an absolute shit show of fan theories. Is that what you want?
Backstory narrative wasn't a driving factor back in the day with tech limitations. He likes that style and 2016 wasn't big on cutscenes preceding a more circumstantial approach with a tv recording here or radio line there - remember he loves Dark Souls which doesn't force lore on you either. It's there but you have to seek it out leaning to a type of story telling some just prefer and have mastered like say how well Bioshock or Ark does storytelling via collectables and sparse dialogue. Biggest issue was straight up that Eternal took a different route than 2016 so expectations were there from 2016 as to how lore would be presented.
@@skodedickinson6544 THANK YOU
Doom guy already had a backstory before this game but in this game they changed his lore not hating on the game I love it one the best FPS games I’ve ever played but the lore is conveluted
*slams desk* thank you
Dylan Boyle it’s better than not having any lore at all. A story without a lore is like a driver without a driver’s license
I had the most trouble with the Gladiator to be honest. Despite having the “green eyes” Telegraph, I think the rest of his attacks that lack the telegraph are very hard to avoid, as they are very very fast. This is in the second stage of the fight, primarily, as he’s much more aggressive and challenging to keep an eye on. Especially considering the fact that he’ll summon heavy demons like the hell knight and it’s pretty challenging to keep focus on damaging the boss and getting the necessary resources while you’ve got the pressure demons attacking you. On top of this, the arena is pretty small, so you’ve only got so much room to maneuver. I love the boss fight though, the music is blood boiling in a great way and the lore of the boss is pretty amazing too. I by no means think it’s a bad boss, just really hard to pay attention to.
I agree with you but it did piss me off when after I beat him I realized I had lost 7 lives
@@proofessor8062 oof
I fought him on Ultra Violence and died no times, here’s a tip, when his eyes flash green, shoot him with the Heavy Cannon’s Precision Scope, instant stagger.
@@diotheworld8671 it instantly staggers him with that? Never thought to use that one him I'll try to remember that next time fight him
Another massive tip is that you can avoid having to deal with the green eye Telegraphs if you just use explosive weapons to the side of the marauders shield especially if you have upgraded your shotgun sticky bombs damage radius
I’ve been playing this game non stop ever since launch, I just love it so much
Bro it's so good like damn,
blew me away and my expectations were already high.
It’s my favourite first person shooter of all time
I don’t understand the hatred against jumping
It makes it more badass and is fun as hell
@@EhmAmATANK I know right, the platforming isn't bad at all and it feels like you're actually progressing through a huge sprawling level
Alright, if you've got issues with the Marauder, consider the following:
He is meant to punish you for messing up. Try to retreat, he'll chuck an axe. Get too close, have a super shotgun to the chest. And if you're dumb enough to shoot his shield, you're a big enough schmuck to get rekt by the dog.
In all encounters involving him (boss encounter excluded), the marauder never spawns early. You need to control the battlefield before even considering taking him on.
When it's time to beat his ass, kiting is the name of the game. Let him come to you, dodge an axe or two, and he won't be able to resist taking a swing. You punish those, and if you're quick, you can get another shot in.
The marauder isn't easy, he's more than capable of killing you in a heartbeat, and he'll definitely wreck you if you don't pay attention- that's his thing.
But if you know what he does, and when he does it, it becomes clear he's simply a skill check- do you really know the Doom Dance, boy?
Couldn't have said it more perfectly..
This is just 👌🏻
Consider the following: He's not a doom enemy. He's closer to a souls enemy, where pattern recognition and timing are important. That goes against the very CORE of doom games, where positioning and movement is king.
@@senounatsuru6453 positioning and movement is an extremely important element of fighting the marauder. Know the arena so you can quickly move around it to avoid him, and position in a way where he has to come to you
And pattern recognition is important in fighting other demons. With the Tyrant for example, you hear a very distinct auditory cue for one of his strongest attacks. If you don’t recognize that pattern of audio chances are you will get hit by it and punished for not recognizing the cue
The marauder isnt as unbalanced once you think about better strategies to fight him, his ghost dog doesnt need to go, it's his punishment for wasting bullets and will only activate if you shoot his shield. Rockets are also a good option for when your unable to shoot him when hes defensive, just shoot behind him and detonate it at the right time. You should also try to get some distance from the marauder so that he tries to chase you down and use his axe attack which makes his eyes glow green. That's the basic strategy for fighting the marauder
From my understanding the story is really Id 's way of fan service providing and proving the theory that the doom slayer is doom guy from the originals
The Icon Of Sin was the best bossfight in DOOM Eternal by far. The thing I loved most about it is something I don't often see people talking about, but like in the original Doom 2, the icon of sin was a massive bossfight that spawned in all the enemies that you'd encountered in the hours leading up to the finale. This fight felt like a straight modernisation of the classic fight, and could also be argued as a direct remake with how similar the two are. Like you mentioned as well, the blood punch and crucible refills made the supporting enemies so much better to fight, meaning you could focus way more on the icon himself and feel like a true bossfight. I just love this fight as it feels like a perfect blend of new, with the mechanics of eternal being in full force, and old with the fact that it's basically the same fight as all those years ago.
True. Whether or not you're fine with enemies showing up in the bossfights, the Icon's fight is definitely one where it makes sense to have them there.
I would actually disagree. IMO the Icon of sin was a disappointing boss fight. Yes I understand that the ads are part of the fight, but if that was supposed to be part of the fight why did they give us infinite crucible blade to kill all of the hard ads with? Yea you could choose not to use it but you are directly hindering yourself for doing it. Also I would not have cares as much with the ads if every one of the 8 body parts did not have sooooooooo much health. The boss is designed well but it felt less like a boss fight and more like a slayer gate with one really big and really annoying enemy to kill.
@Arick A4 I played through the game on ultra-Violence and it was disappointing for me still. I wanted to fight an awesome end boss not a bunch of ads that I can just use infinite crucible blade on.
also actually being able to use your sword.
your sword that has ammo.
you get to really use it twice in the entire game. When you first get it and there's limited pips spawned, and the final fight, where they're infinitely respawning along with full health and armor orbs, chainsaw fuel, and blood punch refills. Also two blood punches after Khan Maykr.
@@ongon6813 no demon including the icon of sin can take the slayer only hugo has said this himself. I thought it was pretty cool how all the demons came in like that. It felt like the classic fight with him in the og games
Wow this video was just him complaining about the lore and how bad he is fighting the marauder cause he’s trash at multitasking
Jaime Ortiz basically yeah
It hurt to watch
That close range missile launcher gave me demon-aids
literally
Your right
Just use the super shotgun, ballista combo and The Marauder is a piece of cake
Well, the Icon does what the Icon does: summons a bunch of enemies. Luckily, this time it is not a face on the wall.
5: Doom hunter/s
4: Khan Makyr
3: Marauder
2: Icon of Sin
1: Gladiator
disgusting weeb exactly
The Gladiator is super easy, what do you mean?
Icon of Sin just takes a year to fucking kill.
Marauder should never exist,
Khan Makyr is just rush to yeet it's HP
Doom Hunter's you can get used to.
@@neonace3885 it isn't all about difficulty though.
@@KevinReijnders93
What do you mean?
@@neonace3885 literally what I just said, it isn't all about difficulty. Hell, the video itself was not even a difficulty ranking
This was genuinely on of my least favorite TH-cam videos I’ve ever seen.
Having beaten the game on Nightmare with tutorials disabled from the start, I can say the following about each boss.
Marauders: easily the most frustrating enemy in the entire game. The range region in which they will lunge at you feels incredibly tiny and inconsistent, sometimes they will respawn their wolf the moment you kill it even in close range, and they completely break the flow of combat. If anything, they feel inconsistent and unpolished mechanically, which make them an annoyance to fight.
Doom Hunters: the first half of their boss battle was difficult and hectic, but as you said it was around here the gameplay loop of Eternal really clicked for me. They challenged me in ways that made sense, forcing me to use what I've learned more intelligently. Once I realized you can freeze them and absolutely shred their sled with the mobile turret, they became much less of a problem.
The Gladiator: overall a pretty decent boss, though in hindsight I realize that I didn't catch on to quite all of its mechanics, leading to the fight being more difficult than it should have been. Not many comments, its long range club strike should maybe be easier to avoid, as it easily takes off a quarter of your health on Nightmare with almost no window to dodge.
Khan Maykr: to be honest, she was kind of a pushover. I defeated her first try burning maybe one extra life, which is noticeably less than the other bosses. Her attacks were easy to avoid, and Maykr Drones provide so many resources it doesn't feel too urgent to stay topped up on health.
Icon of Sin: my god, this boss beat me down more times than I can count, I must've spent at least two hours trying to defeat this boss alone. It was brutally difficult, forcing me to relearn how I approached the game and put much more focus on the Crucible, Blood Punch, and Chainsaw for crowd control. It did help that I had unlocked the Unmaykr, which did good, easy to land damage to its different weak spots. The first half felt more frustrating than the second, with its cramped arena and penchant for filling it with Cyber Mancubi. However, it pretty much felt felt like a "git gud" kind of boss that brought everything I had learnt throughout the game to its edge. It was definitely among the most viscerally cathartic bosses to beat in any game I've ever played.
My fun ranking for the bosses, from most to least fun, would be as follows:
1. Doom Hunters
2. Icon of Sin
3. Khan Maykr
4. Gladiator
5. Marauder (mainly due to its appearances later in the campaign)
My difficulty ranking, from most to least difficult, would be as follows:
1. Icon of Sin
2. Marauder (again when it appears later in the campaign)
3. Gladiator
4. Doom Hunters (they spice up later encounters, which is why they're not at no. 5)
5. Khan Maykr (was I the only one who found her to be kind of a pushover?)
The Khan Makyr was a pain in my ass the first time. But doing it on my second go was a breeze because I knew how to do it well.
I agree with your ranking fully Kahn Maykr was really easy
Edit: I was playing on ultra violence
when I beat the Khan Maykr I was surprised the boss fight was over with how easy it was, all I did was shoot ballista shots hopping around on the top level and sometimes shooting a drone for ammo, and this was on nightmare difficulty
Khan Maykr was super easy, the triple shot from the rocket launcher absolutely destroys her. I also found the Icon of Sin to be pretty easy. The amount of crucible ammo was astounding, any time I felt I was being overwhelmed by enemies I would just whip it out and cut down all the heavies. His fist slam did almost get me a few times, so I guess on a higher difficulty (I was playing on Hurt me Plenty) I may have used a few extra lives. Other than that, I didn't have too much problems with him.
Raven Ik, your dodging a pinky and suddenly the marauder appears out of nowhere and claps your cheeks. Or a door opens, and guess who showed up even though they weren’t invited to the party. You find yourself desperate so you swing the crucible at Him and alas, his shield bounces that sucker off like a golf ball slugging your house.
Game Director: "Marauder is going to be super duper hard and play strategically."
Actually Marauder: *SSG/Ballista combo* *Can't fight you by himself*
Shit. On nightmare that shit is too risky. To stand still in a distance to let him attack while also managing the other enemies around is a hassle.
@@gabrielmorris7131 That's why it's called Nightmare, and you're not supposed to stay in place, kill the other demons while dodging him
@@nicovelardita8619 Its easier said than done. Sure you can deal with him AFTER clearing the rest of the arena. That could be said about every super heavy demon. Even then, The rest of the enemies can be a hassle too. I'm just saying you have to be the right distance to even land a shot so focusing on the distance shit and 300+ projectiles is hard to do.
@@gabrielmorris7131 I never said it was easy, it's not supposed to be easy, but is possible and with time you could get really good at it, that's because Marauder's a boss of a game.
Also, if you don't want that the BFG kills everything around when he appears, is for that moments that you get the gun.
I swear, the Marauder feels like a boss that's straight out of Soulsborne
like sekiro but with super shotgun instead of a sword
If this was a FromSoftware game, once dead, he would've spawned with 2 other Marauders
Here are my thoughts on the bosses:
-Marauder: I’m one of the few folks who actually likes fighting the Marauder. One-on-one, the Marauder is pathetic: just hit him while he’s stunned (you can land two shots if quick enough) and dodge his projectiles, repeat till dead. But what others find annoying is what I find fun about Marauders: fighting everyone else while fighting the Marauder. I like to imagine if Doom Eternal were a movie, the Slayer and Marauder duking it out one-on-one in a balanced battle while the Slayer picks off hoards of demons trying to distract from the fight. Once you master balancing fighting the Marauder while defending against the other demons, they become a thrill to fight.
-Doom Hunter: Not much to say, just a classic “late game enemy introduced early” boss. I loved how they went from letting you beat one in a fairly tense boss battle with easy fodder enemies go to fighting two with stronger enemies. From a design perspective, it trains the player for late-game encounters, subtly warning them, “It only gets harder from here.”
-Gladiator: A more traditional boss battle with multiple ways to fight it: spray & pray, or time the vulnerable spots for a glory kill attack. As for the Sentinel Prime level itself, I think of it as a “breather level”: after tons of intense fights, we get a moment to catch our breath, and if you’re still wondering what’s going on, the game tries to spell it out for you: the Hell Priests were formerly the people who rescued you from Hell, but then got corrupted themselves, turning your saviors into the very thing you were fighting, and worst of all, you’re the one who told them about the demons, putting the fault entirely on you. I thought it was a great twist, seeing the priests pre-corruption, having Doomguy rant about the demons, having the priest and Kahn Makyr look into it, and then smash-cutting to the same priest in his red-eyed deep-voiced demonic form, as if to say, “If you hadn’t told them about Hell, none of this would’ve happened. I guess the dude from Doom Hunter base was right: you *did* screw over the Sentinels.”
-Kahn Makyr: If you cheesed your way through the game without using headshots, the grappling hook, blood punch, or using all your navigation tools (dash, double jump, poles, and jump pads), this fight will be a rude awakening. It switches up the formula and asks you to forget the chainsaw, forget the defensive approach, and go full ham on the boss while carefully aiming at the drones for ammo and health pickups. If you keep moving and maintain environmental awareness, the “floor is lava” attack shouldn’t pose much of a threat, and even then, popping a drone will give you more than enough health.
-Icon of Sin: Nothing to add, just a pure badass fight while juggling fighting all the evil that Hell can conjure (like the intro said). Much like the Marauder fights, I like to imagine that the Slayer is focusing all his fire on the Icon while picking off the oncoming demon hordes. It’s roughly the same in principle: knock away the oncoming demons while harvesting resources, pour it on the Icon, repeat till he’s dead. Overall, a spectacular way to end the game.
That’s my two cents. Of course, you did raise common complaints about the game: Marauders being too aggravating to fight, no true “one-on-one” boss battles, the game giving too many hints on how to win (I think they should’ve saved those for the loading screens, like when you’re normally killed by enemies), and focusing a little too much on story. I’m fine with those personally, but let’s hope they address these in a future update.
Couldn't have put it better myself. You saw everything pretty much the same why I saw it and I could not agree more!
Spaztique I thought the khan maker was very easy actually. The lock on rocket launcher plows through her and the precision bolt heavy cannon kills khan drones with ease.
Dominick Chuka That’s what I did, too. I’m mainly referring to how her boss mechanics are much different from the other enemies. Since people who repeat the same tactics have trouble with Marauders, I wouldn’t be surprised if they got creamed by the Kahn Makyr, too.
Spaztique yeah, that’s true.
You can actually hit him trice.
Shotgun -> ballista -> shotgun
or the other way around. You have to cycle rather fast but it works quite reliably :)
A good way I've seen the gameplay loop described is: "You need to learn how to play right before you get to play wrong." Once you learn to play right, it will be like muscle memory, and from there you can basically have your own style.
Also I feel like if they retextured the Khan Maykr's floor-is-lava mechanic into constant space-lasers, it would fit much better. She's a flying boss that you need to pay attention to, and you can't always be looking at the ground, so being able to see where the floor is lava by space-lasers would be nice.
Khan was a joke honestly. All you have to do is use the lock on rocket launcher mod and she's staggered in 3-6 bursts. Pair that with the drones being an infinite ammo supply and you have the biggest joke of the game. Talk about a 4 minute fight lmao. The game hyped her up to be some crazy final boss, but icon flexed on her and I kind of forgot she was even a fight after the Icon fight. 2/10 easiest boss
Spank Pempsey idk the icon fight was much easier in my opinion, due to the fact that you can literally just use the crucible the whole time to get health back, the only thing really making it all that hard is the fact that it’s an incredibly long fight where you’re bound to mess up at some point. The Kahn Makyr on the other hand deals a shit load of damage to you very quickly and yes ammo is basically infinite you do have to kill the drones careful and make sure you get glory kills on them to make sure you can charge your blood punch. Still, they’re both great fights imo
Before fighting her I had just realized earlier in the level that the Arbalest mod for the Ballista says that it does extra damage to flying enemies, so when I saw a big flying boss I decided to try it on her. It 4 shots her shield, and if you have the mastery, there's no downtime between charges so the fight just becomes: Find a safe spot, 1, 2, 3, 4, grapple, punch, ice bomb a drone, headshot, repeat 6 times. The nail in the coffin is that if the area under the middle bridge isn't on fire, you can use the bridge to just block most of her attacks while still decimating her. Fight is an absolute joke.
Did you guys even play nightmare on console? Easy? Tf.
I thought she was kinda a pain in the ass till I used the rocket launcher's burst which made her way too easy to beat
@@kevinmorales4405 I think they say on the perspective of Normal difficulties, on Normal she's quite easy to whoops ass, and of course in Nightmare even a got damn Hell Knight is difficult to kill
Anyone who says they don’t like this game r the same ppl who thought that said sekiro needed an easy mode.
Sekiro was a joke in difficulty compared to a non visitor nioh/nioh2 run lol. Granted there is no power creep in sekiro so that might be a deciding factor for some
@@MrCJJ2008 idk sekiro to me was bullshit. More or less because of some of the areas and BS boss shit that's either too fucking op or too annoying (chained ogre at the start being a beautiful example of the bullshit) and to top it off it's confusing as fuck. Like i get fromsoft games never TOLD you where to go explicitly but sekiro's areas were either so big you didn't know where tf to go or so small that someone saying hey go there is not needed
Ura Theboi1 ever heard of get good
The Gamer of Legend My god i see so many people with JC as there profile picture lmao. OH MY GOD JC A BOMB.
Defeated But Not Destroyed Idk what ur talking about sekiro was amazing I thought it was the second best souls game behind ds1
Wow. It's crazy. I never thought i'd see someone with a wrong opinion about this game. nuts man, nuts.
"Wrong opinion"
Oh why yes keep standing there on your high horse
Santino Leahy somebody can’t kill the Marauder.
@@empirecrumbles615 I've never played DOOM eternal XD
Nice joke though
@@zedmercury2605 I mean, you're objectively wrong if you say DOOM Eternal is worse than 2016. Level design, graphical prowess, enemy design, ammo economy, strategy, late game content, weapon diversity. The list goes on. So yeah, the person who made this video has an objectively wrong opinion. Sorry not sorry.
@@WannabeWa1fu First, he didnt complain about most of that stuff, he only criticized the story (or at least the presentation of the story) and the boss fights in this video. it seems like he enjoyed the overall gameplay and presentation.
Secondly, even if most people agree that eternal is an overall better game than 2016, you cant ignore the common complaints that people have made about this game, which includes story presentation (because people find that doomguy getting a backstory and such just muddles the original charm of doom), Tonal whiplash (the story doesnt know if it wants to take itself more or less seriously), enemy design (people find that while (most of) the enemy designs are cool callbacks, overall many people still prefer the original doom 2016 designs, just go on the video where eternal enemies are shown side by side with 2016 enemies, several people like the 2016 designs better), and how people liked the more one on one fights in 2016 compared to the mook rushing of eternal (not saying the mook rushing is objectively worse, just saying some people prefer one on one compared to mook rushes in most video games.)
Lastly, again, noone can have an objectively wrong opinion. EDIT: Unless their reasoning is a straight up lie, like if they said that they didnt like the game because doomguy had a terrible sex scene, even though there is no sex scene in the game, stuff like that.
You lost me when you started talking about bosses being too hard lol
Funny comedy
Complains about difficulty but only rates it 3 stars out of five
@@briandamage9067 he rated it 4 for the rest of the marauders
I really liked the marauder. I'm glad it disrupted the gameplay. I felt really pressured when I was fighting him, really fun.
I think he meant more for the challenge encounter. Gotta kill him in thirty seconds. I BARELY skirted by after ten tries. I love him though :P
The marauder is a good boss fight...until you learn that moving forward he is super susceptible to the lock on rocket launcher and falls apart.
The unmaker becomes very useable in the icon of sin fight.
I found it to be disappointing, maybe if it used different ammo from the bfg it would be better
@@diobrando9842 no you are right with the right angle you could wipe a whole arena with one shot but in the final sin mission it is really easy to miss bfg shots so that's why i used it there.
The Murauder secret encounter made me want to rip my hair out.
I like how Marauder's range weapon is an axe and melee weapon is a shotgun
The Marauder serves as a "Get gud" encounter since you either suck ass and miss every chance you get to attack him or you take that man to pound town.
Leone Senpai Definitely! It filters out the FPS players from DoomSlayers!
@@dez-m Facts.
Leone Senpai u don’t really take him to pound town. U wait for him to do one specific move. Idk about you, but it’s not hard, it’s just time consuming. Horrible design
@@dez-m maybe they need a wider mesh...
@@RM22201 Or you could use splash damage to hit him from behind while his shield is up. Experimentation is encouraged.
13:49 I highly suggest using the heavy cannon mini missiles (with the mastery) to take down the Khan Mayk'r's shields. A short barrage takes it down in no time.
the rocket launcher is good to
I use the lock-on burst for the rocket launcher, and it gives a similar result.
@@jacobbutler5112 SEE I'M GLAD IM NIT THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS JUST FLING LOCK ON ROCKETS AT HER.
Like why have I not seen one person use this????
easiest to hardest (based on the number times they killed me): Kahn marker
I feel like the archvile should have been included in this list.
It isn't a boss
Love the added touch of the switch Joycon snapping sound played over the marauder unsheathing his axe
4:08
I love the sense of progression you get with the marauder. He's a wonderful shake-up to the combat when you first run in to him, but by the end of the game you are whooping their asses in 10 seconds flat like all the other demons.
and there are other people who keep finding him tedious and still struggle to kill him and then call him a bad enemy because they can’t git gud.
Blmao bet $0.00 that they keep trying to shoot his shield instead of just taking their time for once
@@blmao5150 I just don't like how he grinds the entire game to a halt. Even in the gladiator fight if you know what you are doing you can control the rhythm of the fight. The Marauder forces you to be reactive than proactive.
Kingsley CY I find that the marauder has a pretty predictable pattern. One ranged axe attack and then he runs at you for a swing with his axe. If you get to close he’ll change his pattern but if you can keep that rhythm you should be alright.
@@grilledchicken5301 Thank you. On my first Marauder fight, he destroyed me. But once I learned that pattern he became very manageable. I dont know why so many people say that he just cowers behind his shield all the time. Just stop attacking him, dodge the axe throw at mid range and then he does the axe swing you can counter. Its not that difficult.
Man tried hitting a marauder with 2 consecutive Balista shots
It's very interesting for me to see everyone struggling to fight the marauder because I never had an issue with him..... idk it's just wierd....
same, then again I already knew how to fight him before I met him
That's it , I'm calling you DOOModracy from now until the end of time.
The Icon of Sin was way too hard for me initially. I was on ultra-violence and had 6 extra lives. The first phase blew through all of those and the second phase took 6+ tries. The fireball attack and vagueness of what was good to shoot or not made me angry. That final cutscene made it all worth it!
I personally found Khan makyr to be harder, she took a few tries on ultra violence but beat icon of sin first try
Ashley Newton just difference in play style I guess. I don’t know about you, but the magma floor was the biggest detriment for me.
It took me a lot of deaths on UV before I realized you can absolutely spam the crucible to keep your health topped up. Like to the point where it was my answer to basically everything I couldn't glory kill after two SSG blasts.
Loading screen: Use the crucible. No, really use it. USE IT.
"Make him slower and more vulnerable"
Id: stronger and faster you say? Spirit time
I love how the game forces me to use everything I’ve got - I’d probably just used that one gun otherwise. I do hate the marauders since this is the only occasions where unrelenting aggression isn’t the answer
. I gotta say it’s definitely eternal that hooked me. 2016 was good, but this takes the cake.
Then meathooks it right to the ground. I don’t have time to eat cake, I got some demons to kill.
The funny thing about Doom Eternal's difficulty for bosses is that it's laughably inconsistent. One minute you're kicking the crap out of the supposed "Hunters" of yours truly, the next you're doing the Marauder Tango while avoiding Rocket barrages from the resident Dooty boys!
But that all comes to a head with "The Gladiator". Everything you've faced, everything you've learned, this one demonic warrior of the thunderdome brings it all to a screaming head with a two phase fracas. Starting off, he gives you a taste of the familiar with the dance you've done time and time again but with some extra chain flail spice to the mix. And while this extra range gives him a bit of an edge over his more normal encounter counterpart, it's still the same ol song and dance you've done over and over again. Green glow, dodge, fire, wash, rinse, repeat.
What that all does is lul you into a false sence of security as you're wiping the floor with him, as he really brings the pain in the second Phase. Turns out, double the fun is exactly what you need to spice up a boss fight as this satanic soldier ups the antie with two flails yet unique ways of use. Between testing your dash reactions with the ol one two combo, testing your awareness with his lightning jump rope attack (which allows for easy damage if you're paying attention), or testing your patience with his reflecting shield move, the Gladiator is easily the hardest yet most fun boss of Doom Eternal.
Damn you should be a co-writer for demod that sounds exactly like something he’d put for an entry
Hardest is arguable but funnest I can agree with.
I just keep going back to that mission just to fight him. I would do the same with the Icon but fighting the marauder then that room beforehand with every enemy in the game is just tedious.
@@kuronaialtani I......uh......huh. I never thought of it like that. That's kinda funny.
second-easiest boss on Nightmare (first belonging to Doom Hunters) and didn't stand a challenge. I like how dramatic it sounds, but it's really sad how the Marauders are more difficulty than the Gladiator.
I don’t think the marauder throws the gameplay loop too off course. in his regular encounters where demons are everywhere, if you want to fight him without any distractions, you have to get rid of the fodder first, but you may ask, “well what about his axe throws?” well just keep moving, that’s doom’s whole message, it’s to just keep moving. it’s like like his axe throws are hitscan, you have plenty of time to dodge. he’s kind of just a hellknight on steroids.
He plays like a game journalist
Marauder: "Resistant to Super Weapons"
Everyone: GOTTA USE THE SUPER SHOTGUN WHEN HE GETS CLOSE
Pretty sure they mean stuff like the BFG tendrils and crucible, not literally a weapon that has 'super' in the title. SSG and ballista combo work just fine.
Also the Unmakyr, the bastard blocks any shot from it.
@@zeemaster99 the lock on mod for the rocket launcher is pretty good too, since the first rocket will hit him, leaving him open to the next two that were fired as well.
I managed to kill it with the bfg once but I was super lucky
See I read the Wiki shortly after posting this and I think you might be right but I'm really not sure, the Super Shotgun always seemed really ineffective for me in comparison with the Ballista
I really do like the icon of sin, but I can’t enjoy his cool and imposing design because of the amount of enemies. I understand that you need ammo, and health, and the crucible was fun to use, but I don’t need to fight 3 hell knights while trying to dodge the fire all over the floor, AND a gigantic fist. It is a sad case of adding too many minions.
And the second phase where there’s 800 cacodemons and pinkies
Mr.Eatmyfealings 12345, your supposed to use the crucible on any big enemy you see while fighting the icon, it replaces glory killing during the fight, so you can still get health and not be distracted. The crucible ammo refills so you’ll always have enough to kill any big minion in your way.
Just turn on photo mode
Was I the only one who had that fight last F O R E V E R? The second phase felt like it took 30 minutes for me
Jonathan Rowe yeah, it lasted 15 or so minutes for me and I killed 25-30 Barons, among the rest of the fodder spread around.
Brotip: marauder will summon The dog only as a punishment for you wasting your ammo on his shield.
Talking about Marauder: He disrupts the doom dance like no other
The footage: *him scrabbling like he hasn’t played the first 5 levels*
I loved the Icon of Sin as a boss, and it was probably the most intense part of the game for me - but, at least for me on Ultra-Violence, was BY FAR the hardest boss I faced. I died to his first phase way more than I ever did to any Marauder, and as I became more familiar with the patterns and tactics of the fight it became an insane balancing act between finding the best openings to open fire on him, skirting around the arena like a madman to dodge his crazy-damaging slams, and pushing up to the front of the arena to chainsaw some zombies for that sweet, sweet piñata of ammo, all while having to quickly close in on bigger enemies with the Crucible as they came. All of this was, for most of the fight, operating on a razor-thin margin of error.
Strangely, though, I beat his second phase in one go. I don't know if it was because the arena was more sprawling and allowed for more varied movement or if it was because I had already mastered the process in the first stage, but it was a pretty stark contrast. Once I beat him, though, I realized what an adrenaline rush it was and all the frustration became triumph and appreciation for his design.
P.S. if you want a good time, go back and fight him with sentinel armor, infinite ammo, QuakeCon mode, infinite quad damage, and infinite haste all while using the Unmaykr lol
I did that and used the crucible :)
I also beat the game on Ultra Violence. I never fully learned the pattern for the Icon of Sin's attacks and subsequently felt frustrated the entire time fighting him. His seemingly irregular arm smashing would ruin a run that was working so well.
Hah, if i made a video like that - my list would be the mirror image of this one. The marauder was my favorite boss/enemy and the Icon of Sin - the least. I almost fell a sleep by the middle of that fight on ultra violence.
Icon of sin in nightmare is just i cant even describe it. Its too long
@@AreRicX took me like 30 minutes
@@stefanreimer241 yeah same goes to me. Or even more than that. At the end i was like oh thank god its dead
This guy sounds like he’s part of ign
Who agress with me that Doom Eternal is the best Fps ever made?
hell yea
YEAHHH
Not quite, if it had a great multiplayer then I would consider it one of the best
@@sd-ubz2633 They refer to the campaign (which is excellent)
Also from my point of view the multiplayer is good, it is not wonderful or much else but it is quite entertaining.
W doom isn’t meant for multiplayer
I just watched a man whine for 18 minutes and 35 seconds.
I feel like hey missed an opportunity for the icon of sin. They could’ve made it like a big arena where you move from building to building while fighting him and his demon goons. It also felt like the icon of sin didn’t feel as the main threat but rather the main target. It was fun as hell, but I wish they did more for the bosses themselves.
The only thing I found disappointing was that you can't use the crucible on him
Marauder fun facts: 1) dogs spawn only when you shoot his shield (to punish you for doing so). However, ANY damage to his shield can spawn a dog, so other enemies can accidentally shoot it 2) splash damage and quick swapping are you’re best friend, rocket launcher w remote explosion or cheeky grenades behind him can damage/ stun him for a bit. And when he is stunned get in a super shot gun Batista combo, maybe another super shotgun if you’re fast enough. These combined can make him much more manageable
If anyone is having a hard time with the kahn makyr I have a secret for you that I discovered when I first fought the boss. All you need is the scoped heavy assault rifle and the lock on rocket launcher. Simply lock on to the kahn makyr with the rocket launcher and obliterate her health bar. If at any point you need ammunition swap to the heavy assault rifle and head shot the adds. I recommend the ability where time slows while you aim in mid air. Simply rinse and repeat and this boss is practically a joke
I swear im one of the few people that loves the lore in this game, i didnt expect to but it got its hooks into me and piecing it all together was pretty satisfying
Lol, Marauder was my favourite boss exactly for the reasons you did not like. Way more interesting than the bullet hell/sponge icon of sin
Agreed. That fight with the icon of sin is way over the top, even for Doom. Hugo and Marty must of been drunk went they made it
Best To Worst
1- Marauder (best overall testing your skills)
2-Khan Maykr - cool environment, cool music, cool visuals but not challenging even on hardest difficulty.
3-Gladiator - cool concepts yet dies too quickly
4-doom hunter- very weak yet annoying enough to make you dislike him
5-icon of sin - just a glorified bullet sponge with infinite enemy respawns. No innovation, no cool mechanics, nothing. Shame
My thoughts exactly. I love the Marauder. He feels like a worthy opponent. He is fast, strong and has a good AI. I dont understand how he is unbalanced, since he has a pretty easy pattern. Stay in mid range, dodge the axe throw and then he uses a close range attack, which you can counter. Its not that difficult.
@@InspectorBus it was underwhelming
Man, I loved the lore and cutscenes on this game, please give us more of this next time
A few tips on the Marauder that will help anyone who may not know...
1) Dog only spawns if his shield takes damage (Including blocked damage from other demons) - clear the field of any ranged targets first (much like any other combat scenario)
2) His opening isn't just while his eyes flash, he's vulnerable during his entire attack animation.
3) If you keep him at range and continually strafe him his range attacks will miss and he will close the gap to attack. Let him get himself into his kill range.
4) Supershotty>Ballista is almost guaranteed if you hit him out of an attack. (some people are quick enough to sneak a sniper shot in too, I'm not)
5) You can safely trade Super Shotty blasts, not optimal but if you find yourself right next to him it's better than nothing.
I honestly struggle more with the Doom Hunter than I do the Marauder. I don't know why.