I am adding to my list of all the things I have done wrong bear hunting. I have hunted them for several years without any luck but I have seen a few. This is very good information especially for bow hunting because normally I gun hunt but to get a bear where I hunt you need to use a bow. I use fixed blade Muzzy broadheads from a Hoyt carbon extreme so hopefully that is the right medicine.
I’m new to bear hunting and I’ve heard multiple times to avoid mechanicals on a bear, especially for crossbows. I know you didn’t make any crossbow reference but nevertheless you still backed up what everyone says about them.
Great vid. I switched back to fix blades after mechanical penetration issues. Giving the old Montec a try here in northern Ontario this spring if all goes well
HI ALL. I would just like to add that with bow or gun, the closer the game the more certain the outcome. For black bear. With a long bow. I consider my effective range. Then I set at about 1/4 of my effective range. I have the tree stand low about eight feet and anticipate a shot at ten yards or less.
They are pretty quick. Heck mine is a not a speed demon as crossbows go. Mine is an Excalibur Bulldog 330. Some of the crossbows are 400fps or more. But crossbows are loud compared to compound and traditional bows. If bears don’t jump the string like deer this also has to be an advantage to using a crossbow when bear hunting. With deer you lose the advantage of the bow already being drawn after you pull the trigger on a crossbow. Last year was the first time I killed a deer with a crossbow, I have killed several with compounds and a few with trad bows. Older compounds had the only advantage of being able to draw heavier draw weights with a little let off but the noise canceled the advantage. Bows are so efficient these days compared to 20+ years ago. And crossbows are also.
@405fps, there's not a lot of time for an animal to react. I've never gone farther than 60 yards on a larger animal. 60 yards is 180 feet, so it's less than half a second until impact.
Thanks for the info. Getting ready for a bear hunt now and will be looking to change my arrow/broad head set up. Any thoughts on grain weights and arrow spine deflection combination for bear hunting (#75 @ 29.5")?
The thing about crossbows is that they shoot a heavy arrow with a very high speed so you can get a pass through. These crossbow bolts zip right through a bear.
As a general rule, deer are about the same size, unlike bears. You're not going to see a buck walk by that's 150 pounds and then have another one come by that's four times that size. That can certainly happen with bears though.
Trying to go on my first bear hunt very soon in some territory I recently scouted and know there is activity. Bought a pse stinger max, 60lbs, 29” draw, 100grain annihilator fixed broadheads..... you think I have a shot at a humane kill or should I change to a heavier head or increase my draw weight ? Thx in advance.
New to bear hunting. Guys i work with. Bears are coming in destroying there feeders. They dont want to hunt them. I just bought a new Wicked Ridge 400 raider crossbow. I am planning on using a Tooth of arrow fixed blade broadhead 100 gr. With a tenpoint match 400 bolt with 100 gr head. It says that xbow has 135 ke. Hope i am going in the right direction . On my setup.
I've seen dozens of bears killed with the rage broadhead mine included.. not saying a fixed blade won't kill me either but you can't say a mechanical won't kill him as good because they do all about shot placement
I'm not sure if you watched the video with the sound off or if you just didn't listen to the commentary. It's not all about shot placement it is all about penetration. Shot placement is a factor in penetration.
Any legally weighted bow, and a properly matched arrow with a sharp broadhead will ethically take a bear if you can get a good shot off. Good analysis though!
I agree that lesser than ideal setups will take down a bear, but what we want to avoid is a low margin for error; and, as many people have learned, killing a bear and recovering it are two different matters.
I like that you put footage in while you're talking.. Sucks when I gotta watch a guy talk for 10 minutes. Fantastic video!
A razor sharp fixed broadhead is the way to go, with good shot placement of course!
I am adding to my list of all the things I have done wrong bear hunting. I have hunted them for several years without any luck but I have seen a few. This is very good information especially for bow hunting because normally I gun hunt but to get a bear where I hunt you need to use a bow. I use fixed blade Muzzy broadheads from a Hoyt carbon extreme so hopefully that is the right medicine.
I’m new to bear hunting and I’ve heard multiple times to avoid mechanicals on a bear, especially for crossbows. I know you didn’t make any crossbow reference but nevertheless you still backed up what everyone says about them.
Great vid. I switched back to fix blades after mechanical penetration issues. Giving the old Montec a try here in northern Ontario this spring if all goes well
I really like the G5s...
@@michiganwoodsman2199 I use the Montec currently, but I do like the look of the Striker. That fuller in the ferrule is interesting.
Thorough video and not opinionated. Thanks
What is the reccomeded recurve strength for a black bear?
That seem like it was a really informative video, neverhundred for blackbear’s and probably wouldn’t use a bow but I really enjoyed this video,
HI ALL.
I would just like to add that with bow or gun, the closer the game the more certain the outcome.
For black bear.
With a long bow.
I consider my effective range. Then I set at about 1/4 of my effective range.
I have the tree stand low about eight feet and anticipate a shot at ten yards or less.
They are pretty quick. Heck mine is a not a speed demon as crossbows go. Mine is an Excalibur Bulldog 330. Some of the crossbows are 400fps or more. But crossbows are loud compared to compound and traditional bows. If bears don’t jump the string like deer this also has to be an advantage to using a crossbow when bear hunting. With deer you lose the advantage of the bow already being drawn after you pull the trigger on a crossbow. Last year was the first time I killed a deer with a crossbow, I have killed several with compounds and a few with trad bows. Older compounds had the only advantage of being able to draw heavier draw weights with a little let off but the noise canceled the advantage. Bows are so efficient these days compared to 20+ years ago. And crossbows are also.
@405fps, there's not a lot of time for an animal to react. I've never gone farther than 60 yards on a larger animal.
60 yards is 180 feet, so it's less than half a second until impact.
@@Anomaly.Filmworksim thinking of hunting black bears with a recurve. What draw weight should i use?
Momentum is what gets the arrow through a bear, not KE.
Yes but kenetic energy is responsible for momentum.
I will try to get some video of my bear hunt and send it to you
Thanks for the info. Getting ready for a bear hunt now and will be looking to change my arrow/broad head set up. Any thoughts on grain weights and arrow spine deflection combination for bear hunting (#75 @ 29.5")?
That set-up will have plenty of kinetic energy, stop in at your local archery pro shop and have them help you set up a specific arrow for you.
Very good info, thanks.
You bet!
You talked about bears not jumping the string. Is this why crossbows are so effective on bears?
The thing about crossbows is that they shoot a heavy arrow with a very high speed so you can get a pass through. These crossbow bolts zip right through a bear.
@@BowhuntingRoad my KI Lethal 405 pushes 138ft. lbs @405fps. I'm not a fan of mechanicals either.
When you said all deer r the same size o disagree with that part!! I hope I understood what you said correctly
As a general rule, deer are about the same size, unlike bears. You're not going to see a buck walk by that's 150 pounds and then have another one come by that's four times that size. That can certainly happen with bears though.
Trying to go on my first bear hunt very soon in some territory I recently scouted and know there is activity. Bought a pse stinger max, 60lbs, 29” draw, 100grain annihilator fixed broadheads..... you think I have a shot at a humane kill or should I change to a heavier head or increase my draw weight ?
Thx in advance.
You should be fine if your shot placement is right on. Good luck!
New to bear hunting. Guys i work with. Bears are coming in destroying there feeders. They dont want to hunt them. I just bought a new Wicked Ridge 400 raider crossbow. I am planning on using a Tooth of arrow fixed blade broadhead 100 gr. With a tenpoint match 400 bolt with 100 gr head. It says that xbow has 135 ke. Hope i am going in the right direction . On my setup.
Should blast a bolt through most any bear if it's broadside.
You sold me on the idea of staying with a fixed blade but I’m curious which Broadhead you use? I’m going with QAD exodus
I have been using Slick Tricks and they have worked perfectly so far.
I find the QAD Exodus and the G5 Montecs fly the best when the broadhead is in line with the fletching.
@@BowhuntingRoad 3 or 4 blade?
@@-lovefromnh 3 blade for me.
I use the g5 Montec fixed broad heads and love them
Very informative video. I learned a bit from listening to you. Thanks!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Gracias Señor
I've seen dozens of bears killed with the rage broadhead mine included.. not saying a fixed blade won't kill me either but you can't say a mechanical won't kill him as good because they do all about shot placement
I'm not sure if you watched the video with the sound off or if you just didn't listen to the commentary. It's not all about shot placement it is all about penetration. Shot placement is a factor in penetration.
What's your opinion on tradbows for bear?
Great. Close shots, sharp fixed blade broadheads, know your limitations!
@@BowhuntingRoad Thank you!
Any legally weighted bow, and a properly matched arrow with a sharp broadhead will ethically take a bear if you can get a good shot off.
Good analysis though!
I agree that lesser than ideal setups will take down a bear, but what we want to avoid is a low margin for error; and, as many people have learned, killing a bear and recovering it are two different matters.
Legally weighted? Do you mean meeting/exceeding minimum requirements?
Love it 🎯
I shoot Mathews and Thunderhead 125s.
Thunderheads for life!! Mechanicals will never be on my arrows after losing 2 deer many years ago when they were fairly of new.
Kinetic energy.... 😂