Fantastic video Bo - one to save and keep coming back to over and again for tips. The time you investing in making this video really shows through - a complex topic covered in a structured and logical way! Off to give this a test now with my iPhone as a camera...
Dear Bo, this is an excellent, informative and very valuable video! Many thanks for sharing your knowledge. I wish you and your family a pleasant weekend! Thanks and Greetings, Ralph
BoBeats This is a video I will come back to on a regular basis. I have already saved it in my private tutorial list. Deluxe video and excellent work from you Bo 👍👍👍
You're an absolute godsend, man. I lost my job a few days ago and I'm trying to figure out my best options for making money from music somehow. My first goal is making at least $200 in the next couple of months to pay off car insurance (didn't have enough to pay it when I got fired). I heard livestreaming is a potential "big future" for music and was wondering how exactly I'd set it all up if I'm gonna try. I figure it's a good way to grow whatever name I go with while I try to do licensing/commission work. Thank you!
I really like that you divided the video into chapters. Earlier I only saw it done on Vimeo, so I thought it wasn't possible on TH-cam. Well, you have proven its possible, and I look forward to see it being used more. And as usual, another great video you've done ;-)
Fantastic video, thank you. I’ve been steaming for just over a month with OBS/Loopback. I need to up my camera, lighting, and video mixing game, so perfectly useful for me. Bo comes through!
On windows you can use a reaper plugin call reastream (reaper as all their plugins in vst form for other daws) on your master track and on obs you can use that plugin as a receiver for that master track. i had very good results!!!! better than loopback on mac.
Bo, thanks for this video. There's so much useful info, I can see this took a long time! Nice job, man. I was wondering, with the multi-cam live stream setup, are you using this same setup to record your videos? Say the section from 5:49 to about 11:00. Are you recording all of these cameras at once and then editing them? Or are you using the live stream setup and switcher to record them thru OBS? Thanks again, Bo!
Hey! Thanks buddy. Normally when I make videos I record onto SD cards for maximum flexibility. But I have done videos where I live switch and simply cut together stuff quickly in FCP. That is very fast but if you mess up an angle it is annoying. So its flexibility VS speed. I could basically do all my videos thru live switching if I wanted too.
@@BoBeats Hey, Bo! Thanks for taking a sec to reply, man. I know you're busy over there. Very cool. I was curious as to how you approached your process. It'd be awesome if there was a way to record all three angles thru OBS at the same time; personally, lining up multiple angles and syncing everything up is a pain. I bet there's a plugin or something for OBS that once you hit stop on a recording, OBS exports all angles as separate files as the cameras are all running in the background whether you're switching to them or not... anyway, thanks, dude. I hope you've been well!
Great video! I set this up and there seems to be a lag of about 2 frames between the video and the audio on the file... I'm actually not using it for livestreaming but recording videos instead. Any way to fix this issue?
Thanks so much! - Now all I need is the space in my house! But seriously, can't wait to start streaming and this video is perfect. PS I watched the Roland video you referred to. Are they robots????
Also check out the Blackmagic Atem Mini. Its 300. Not all the specs of the Roland but more than enough for most people that dont want to spend triple that amount. 👍🏻
I got a potential fix in regard to a solution to record DAW on a PC with audio interface and it's pretty cost effective - take the headphone out of an interface and plug it into the default tower mic or motherboard line in (be sure to make it sound clean in the sound properties level settings) and create an audio capture. this has been my solution to capturing my beat making in obs
Yepp. Its very solid. I just looked at US prices and they seem really good (1000 usd) but in europe its pricey. A cheap alternative is Black Magic Atem Mini. Its not comparable on the audio side but could be an option.
Love ROLAND, but the new Black Magic ATEM Pro is a killer video mixer thats just come out. 4 inputs, and can be used for OBS or just shows up as a webcam for Teams/Zoom feeds. I love it. Gotta upgrade the cameras, but it's a great hub.
This was a particularly excellent overview, Bo! I am eyeing the dark side of Apple after dealing with getting it working in Windows... My current workaround is a physical loopback on a Focusrite interface that doesn’t have virtual loopbacks - a literal dual TRS cable from the outputs to the first two inputs, with those first two inputs set up for direct monitoring in MixControl. This might be a workaround for those on Windows without a newer interface and who do not want to buy a second interface.
Thanks so much I really appreciate so many good tips and clear explanations. I plan to stream a 20 minute show and my laptop is a MacBook Air which gets very hot and noisy! I am using a iPhone and iPad as 2 different cameras in OBS using Epocam and NDI camera. Are there any settings in OBS which might help to lower cpu?
Thank you for the in depth explanation BoBeats! I've been searching all week for someone who streams and also uses Ableton to produce. Have you tried using the Roland VR 1HD to stream while producing from your separate production Mac? This is the set up I'm interested in and about to put in my order for the VR1. Hoping you can give me some feedback with latency and set up. Also, when using the Loopback software to stream while producing in Ableton, did your Ableton session crash? I've heard of friends who had to use a separate laptop because they kept on running issues since they were taxing their production laptop with too many vsts running. Any tips and advice is much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
When you’re using streaming software like OBS, are you able to capture everything, including lower thirds, graphics, etc. to your Ninja V? If so, how are you routing the stream to the Ninja V?
i haven’t been able to get blackhole set up but i’ve had soundflower for years and while it does crash when my mac wakes up from sleep, it otherwise works fine, i recently used it to stream audio from logic into a discord stream
Just started to record a Traktor test in OBS for Windows using: - Traktor - Vitual Cable - ASIO4ALL - OBS And two webcams. Finding the right settings was kind of a pain and I caused two blue screens of death bij changing the configuration while playing audio
Question: since your cameras are using HDMI, are you using OBS, or the VR-1HD system menu, or both to fix the latency issue between video and audio? I use the line-in to capture my DJ mixer's music, and Mic 1 to use the wireless mic. I think the webcam may have a little latency, but the latency I'm experiencing on the HDMI side (I use Sony ZV-1...two of them) has latency of about a 1/2 second between when I clap and that clapping showing up as video in OBS. What say you?
Dear Bo, thank you for this fantastic video! Very inspiring. I'm thinking of setting up a small rig similar to yours, and 4K throughput of my main monitor is important (understanding that the main output is scaled to 1080p). In your section about the VR-1HD you point out that the three HDMI inputs can scale 4K input, and I have read that it has a zero latency HDMI through feature that is exactly what I need. However, all the documentation I can find says it can only take up to 1920 x 1200 input, not 4K. Maybe EDID is setting your camera to HD? Can you tell us a little more about input scaling and the HDMI through feature? Thank you!!
Hey! So I have my cameras set to 4K and the vr1hd scales the inputs. But be mindful I have only tested this with Canon cameras. I wouldn’t dare say it works 100% with any brand as there’s always plenty of things that can go wrong.
Question about the Roland VR-1HD. Is it possible to separate sources without using the given presets? For example, Let's say I want to Split cameras 1 & 2 down the middle, but am I then able to put the 3rd camera in OBS someplace else? Someplace that isn't a preset? It seems like there's no way to separate the camera input once they get into the VR-1HD unless it's part of the VR-1HD programming. I'm curious also if it's possible to set a picture in picture with green screen at the VERY bottom of the screen so there's no gap, similar to how many game streamers will do. I want to have Camera 1 on a scene, like a painting on a canvas, and see the painter in the bottom corner with no gap between them and the bottom of the screen.
39:00 Talking about the loopback functionality you also mention the Arturia AudioFuse Studio. This was one of the first things I tried after I bought it two months ago because I assumed this would be a neat solution. Maybe I’m missing something but at least on my Windows system the Loopback channels actually don’t show up as an audio source in OBS (they work fine inside Ableton Live). Did you actually test it?
Oh wait … when adding a new Audio Input Capture device in OBS the loopback channels from the AudioFuse Studio show up. I always expected it in the main audio settings. Works like a charm now!
I've had mixed results on my Mac with OBS, so I resorted to doing all streaming on my PC (I use Xsplit, because I bought a lifetime license a while ago and also use it for Twitch streams). I would love to try your suggestions and see if I can switch my streaming to my Mac because of the lower latency of Core Audio drivers on Mac vs ASIO drivers on PC.
To get even lighting for videorecording indoors i've had the idea to, instead of using umbrella-type lighting setups like Bo had, use one or two 60x60 cm office ceiling LED-panels. Is there anyone here who has tried that?
Can the videomixer mix between camera and the pc screen? Lets say switching to a powerpoint during a meeting. Edit: i think OBS can handle this without any hardware... great video btw, and greetings from another psychologist who is into synths! ;)
Hello, since the Roland VR-1HD does not work with newer Mac computers, could you connect the Roland VR-1HD to an Elgato card and then go into the newer Macs that can read the elgato? Thanks
@@BoBeats Actually, it does work now. I tried for days, but I connected a windows PC, and then back to both my Macs, and it works now. I am not even kidding.
Great tutorial! But, what I miss is how to set it up for playing live. I tried it in OBS and it only put out 1 mono channel. I use a Presonus Studio Live ar16 as my mixer and audio interface. It only outputs channel 1. Don't know what I am doing wrong here.
Making this video was quite intense and ALOT of work. If you think its any good please share it with people you think could benefit from it!
The EOS webcam utility works very well on Mac. I've installed it a couple of days ago and have zero problem inside OBS.
Fantastic video Bo - one to save and keep coming back to over and again for tips. The time you investing in making this video really shows through - a complex topic covered in a structured and logical way! Off to give this a test now with my iPhone as a camera...
Dear Bo, this is an excellent, informative and very valuable video! Many thanks for sharing your knowledge. I wish you and your family a pleasant weekend! Thanks and Greetings, Ralph
Thank you for watching Ralph. I was hoping you would find it valuable.
BoBeats This is a video I will come back to on a regular basis. I have already saved it in my private tutorial list. Deluxe video and excellent work from you Bo 👍👍👍
Thanks for doing this, Bo. Your videos look fantastic, and getting some insight how you achieve that certainly taught me a thing or two 🙂
You're an absolute godsend, man. I lost my job a few days ago and I'm trying to figure out my best options for making money from music somehow. My first goal is making at least $200 in the next couple of months to pay off car insurance (didn't have enough to pay it when I got fired).
I heard livestreaming is a potential "big future" for music and was wondering how exactly I'd set it all up if I'm gonna try. I figure it's a good way to grow whatever name I go with while I try to do licensing/commission work.
Thank you!
I really like that you divided the video into chapters. Earlier I only saw it done on Vimeo, so I thought it wasn't possible on TH-cam.
Well, you have proven its possible, and I look forward to see it being used more.
And as usual, another great video you've done ;-)
Outstanding video, Bo! Thanks a ton for the hard work putting all the pieces together!
Wow, this streaming setup is boss!
Where was this before I started Hahah 😂😁
What do you use? Your evening streams lately have been 🔥
Fantastic video, thank you. I’ve been steaming for just over a month with OBS/Loopback. I need to up my camera, lighting, and video mixing game, so perfectly useful for me. Bo comes through!
This is exactly the video I needed. Thanks!
Hi BO, really interesting video and definitely superb technology behind your videos 👍🏻
On windows you can use a reaper plugin call reastream (reaper as all their plugins in vst form for other daws) on your master track and on obs you can use that plugin as a receiver for that master track. i had very good results!!!! better than loopback on mac.
excellent! thank you so much. this is really useful information.
seriously good content here
Thanks for sharing, i definitely benefited, I have the VR-1HD and was considering the streamdeck..
Extensive and great video. Thanks❗️
Great video buddy ❤️
Great video! Thanks!
This Video was brought to you by: BOLAND. Great production value: nO BS! Also big ups: Bob Eats /delicious synth recipes
Bo, thanks for this video. There's so much useful info, I can see this took a long time! Nice job, man. I was wondering, with the multi-cam live stream setup, are you using this same setup to record your videos? Say the section from 5:49 to about 11:00. Are you recording all of these cameras at once and then editing them? Or are you using the live stream setup and switcher to record them thru OBS? Thanks again, Bo!
Hey! Thanks buddy. Normally when I make videos I record onto SD cards for maximum flexibility. But I have done videos where I live switch and simply cut together stuff quickly in FCP. That is very fast but if you mess up an angle it is annoying. So its flexibility VS speed. I could basically do all my videos thru live switching if I wanted too.
@@BoBeats Hey, Bo! Thanks for taking a sec to reply, man. I know you're busy over there. Very cool. I was curious as to how you approached your process. It'd be awesome if there was a way to record all three angles thru OBS at the same time; personally, lining up multiple angles and syncing everything up is a pain. I bet there's a plugin or something for OBS that once you hit stop on a recording, OBS exports all angles as separate files as the cameras are all running in the background whether you're switching to them or not... anyway, thanks, dude. I hope you've been well!
Great video! I set this up and there seems to be a lag of about 2 frames between the video and the audio on the file... I'm actually not using it for livestreaming but recording videos instead. Any way to fix this issue?
Thanks so much! - Now all I need is the space in my house! But seriously, can't wait to start streaming and this video is perfect. PS I watched the Roland video you referred to. Are they robots????
Also check out the Blackmagic Atem Mini. Its 300. Not all the specs of the Roland but more than enough for most people that dont want to spend triple that amount. 👍🏻
BoBeats, great video. have you made a video on using the Streamdeck with the VR-1HD? Does streamdeck require USB 3.0? Thanks.
Truly excellent content here Bo. Surely Patreon content?
I got a potential fix in regard to a solution to record DAW on a PC with audio interface and it's pretty cost effective - take the headphone out of an interface and plug it into the default tower mic or motherboard line in (be sure to make it sound clean in the sound properties level settings) and create an audio capture. this has been my solution to capturing my beat making in obs
Thats the same video mixer Gaz Williams is using ATM I believe, looks really good.
Yepp. Its very solid. I just looked at US prices and they seem really good (1000 usd) but in europe its pricey. A cheap alternative is Black Magic Atem Mini. Its not comparable on the audio side but could be an option.
Love ROLAND, but the new Black Magic ATEM Pro is a killer video mixer thats just come out. 4 inputs, and can be used for OBS or just shows up as a webcam for Teams/Zoom feeds. I love it. Gotta upgrade the cameras, but it's a great hub.
This was a particularly excellent overview, Bo! I am eyeing the dark side of Apple after dealing with getting it working in Windows... My current workaround is a physical loopback on a Focusrite interface that doesn’t have virtual loopbacks - a literal dual TRS cable from the outputs to the first two inputs, with those first two inputs set up for direct monitoring in MixControl. This might be a workaround for those on Windows without a newer interface and who do not want to buy a second interface.
Thats actually a workaround Ive tried but totally forgot about it. Thanks for bringing it up!
Have you tried virtual cable?
Thanks so much I really appreciate so many good tips and clear explanations. I plan to stream a 20 minute show and my laptop is a MacBook Air which gets very hot and noisy! I am using a iPhone and iPad as 2 different cameras in OBS using Epocam and NDI camera. Are there any settings in OBS which might help to lower cpu?
I’d say you could try 720p instead of 1080p and also try lower bitrate to say 2000.
Thanks I’ll try that
Thank you for the in depth explanation BoBeats! I've been searching all week for someone who streams and also uses Ableton to produce.
Have you tried using the Roland VR 1HD to stream while producing from your separate production Mac? This is the set up I'm interested in and about to put in my order for the VR1. Hoping you can give me some feedback with latency and set up.
Also, when using the Loopback software to stream while producing in Ableton, did your Ableton session crash? I've heard of friends who had to use a separate laptop because they kept on running issues since they were taxing their production laptop with too many vsts running.
Any tips and advice is much appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
When you’re using streaming software like OBS, are you able to capture everything, including lower thirds, graphics, etc. to your Ninja V? If so, how are you routing the stream to the Ninja V?
i haven’t been able to get blackhole set up but i’ve had soundflower for years and while it does crash when my mac wakes up from sleep, it otherwise works fine, i recently used it to stream audio from logic into a discord stream
Just started to record a Traktor test in OBS for Windows using:
- Traktor
- Vitual Cable
- ASIO4ALL
- OBS
And two webcams. Finding the right settings was kind of a pain and I caused two blue screens of death bij changing the configuration while playing audio
Thanks, Bo! Could Rogue Amoeba’s Audio Hijack Pro be a cheaper alternative to Loopback? Not live streaming yet, so just curious.
Not tried that one. I was so amazed by Loopback.
NICE VIDEO!!
Question: since your cameras are using HDMI, are you using OBS, or the VR-1HD system menu, or both to fix the latency issue between video and audio? I use the line-in to capture my DJ mixer's music, and Mic 1 to use the wireless mic. I think the webcam may have a little latency, but the latency I'm experiencing on the HDMI side (I use Sony ZV-1...two of them) has latency of about a 1/2 second between when I clap and that clapping showing up as video in OBS. What say you?
Dear Bo, thank you for this fantastic video! Very inspiring. I'm thinking of setting up a small rig similar to yours, and 4K throughput of my main monitor is important (understanding that the main output is scaled to 1080p). In your section about the VR-1HD you point out that the three HDMI inputs can scale 4K input, and I have read that it has a zero latency HDMI through feature that is exactly what I need. However, all the documentation I can find says it can only take up to 1920 x 1200 input, not 4K. Maybe EDID is setting your camera to HD? Can you tell us a little more about input scaling and the HDMI through feature? Thank you!!
Hey! So I have my cameras set to 4K and the vr1hd scales the inputs. But be mindful I have only tested this with Canon cameras. I wouldn’t dare say it works 100% with any brand as there’s always plenty of things that can go wrong.
Great Video
Question about the Roland VR-1HD.
Is it possible to separate sources without using the given presets? For example, Let's say I want to Split cameras 1 & 2 down the middle, but am I then able to put the 3rd camera in OBS someplace else? Someplace that isn't a preset? It seems like there's no way to separate the camera input once they get into the VR-1HD unless it's part of the VR-1HD programming.
I'm curious also if it's possible to set a picture in picture with green screen at the VERY bottom of the screen so there's no gap, similar to how many game streamers will do. I want to have Camera 1 on a scene, like a painting on a canvas, and see the painter in the bottom corner with no gap between them and the bottom of the screen.
Now here I am on a lovely beach 🤣😂
im such a dad :D
39:00 Talking about the loopback functionality you also mention the Arturia AudioFuse Studio. This was one of the first things I tried after I bought it two months ago because I assumed this would be a neat solution. Maybe I’m missing something but at least on my Windows system the Loopback channels actually don’t show up as an audio source in OBS (they work fine inside Ableton Live). Did you actually test it?
Oh wait … when adding a new Audio Input Capture device in OBS the loopback channels from the AudioFuse Studio show up. I always expected it in the main audio settings. Works like a charm now!
Awesome! Glad you found it! :-)
I've had mixed results on my Mac with OBS, so I resorted to doing all streaming on my PC (I use Xsplit, because I bought a lifetime license a while ago and also use it for Twitch streams). I would love to try your suggestions and see if I can switch my streaming to my Mac because of the lower latency of Core Audio drivers on Mac vs ASIO drivers on PC.
To get even lighting for videorecording indoors i've had the idea to, instead of using umbrella-type lighting setups like Bo had, use one or two 60x60 cm office ceiling LED-panels. Is there anyone here who has tried that?
Can the videomixer mix between camera and the pc screen? Lets say switching to a powerpoint during a meeting.
Edit: i think OBS can handle this without any hardware... great video btw, and greetings from another psychologist who is into synths! ;)
Hello, since the Roland VR-1HD does not work with newer Mac computers, could you connect the Roland VR-1HD to an Elgato card and then go into the newer Macs that can read the elgato? Thanks
I dont know. I have not tested with M1 macs yet
@@BoBeats Well, not even with M1s. Any computer running Monterrey.
@@BoBeats Actually, it does work now. I tried for days, but I connected a windows PC, and then back to both my Macs, and it works now. I am not even kidding.
Great tutorial! But, what I miss is how to set it up for playing live. I tried it in OBS and it only put out 1 mono channel. I use a Presonus Studio Live ar16 as my mixer and audio interface. It only outputs channel 1. Don't know what I am doing wrong here.
Have you checked the mixer page so its not set to mono? Sounds weird!
@@BoBeats Will check that. Thanks
19:47 Didn't realize I'd stumbled into the weird part of TH-cam... :P
Which studio desk are you using?
zaor yesk desk and zaor miza jr mk2
Now you just need to setup a donation plugin 😀
For audio : this might be a tip support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207546775-Does-the-Scarlett-range-have-loopback-
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