Stellaris - Horizon Signal Mechanics

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  • Horizon Signal, not nearly as tedious as one may think. It's been a while coming as the script was sitting on my desk. But finally, here it is.
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  • @Knobbyboy88
    @Knobbyboy88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1166

    If you embrace the worm, you should really get a dimensional horror as a guardian for your home system.
    How awesome would that be?

    • @nekomochi486
      @nekomochi486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Very!

    • @keelanmckay698
      @keelanmckay698 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Neko Mochi ...overpowered

    • @AziSlays
      @AziSlays 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      That'd be pretty broken. But I agree. There must be some way to balance it. Maybe it can only spawn once the endgame year is reached? It would also make sense for it to be able to respawn considering the looping and all.

    • @nathanpusceddu7828
      @nathanpusceddu7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      What will be, was. What was, will be.

    • @Resetium
      @Resetium 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      A 200k fleet that constantly protects your home star turned black hole. Scaling with the year, obviously.

  • @attila535
    @attila535 7 ปีที่แล้ว +582

    This is some 4th degree interdimensional warp fuckery.

    • @attila535
      @attila535 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I just used the words of the Man Emperor of Mankind from the series: If the Emperor had a text to speech device.

    • @gaymothaunt
      @gaymothaunt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      LAW? I AM THE LAW
      I NEED TO POOP
      WE NEED TO BAN POOPING

    • @kelanshelley2797
      @kelanshelley2797 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like 4th dimension

    • @crankypauper
      @crankypauper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Admiral Attila IU

    • @psychoperxtor
      @psychoperxtor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *gets psychically punched*

  • @Yzarro
    @Yzarro 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1075

    This is the only time in a video game I truly felt like I had been messing with something beyond my understanding.

    • @A_Spec
      @A_Spec  7 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      +Yzarro the loop is forever

    • @sukul3889
      @sukul3889 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I concur
      Although I can actually follow the logic, and that itself worries me

    • @ilyasmirnov2528
      @ilyasmirnov2528 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      When playing Sunless Sea, a feeling like this basically never left me.
      E SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN TH

    • @ВадимКомаров-д9е
      @ВадимКомаров-д9е 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah, cause you cant just send your fleet to beat shit out of this fuckers, stealing your science ships. In this one you actually are defenseless against scenario.

    • @federiconicolasmontenegro9734
      @federiconicolasmontenegro9734 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too this are really creepy

  • @null1449
    @null1449 7 ปีที่แล้ว +850

    I only wait that Paradox will include more complex and interesting stories like this in the future, more events, more things to discover, study, fight, fear..
    I love stellaris

    • @drynoa532
      @drynoa532 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Yeah, more exploration options plz.

    • @toninhosoldierhelmet4033
      @toninhosoldierhelmet4033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      i find this game very strange, most runs you do you stumble across anomalies you previously encountered, but every run has one or another anomalie that you see it once and never more, other day i found some folk that lived on a gas giant, and they asked me to haul around a bunch of their pops, but then some kind o civil war betwen then and another species that shared similar planets happened, after that a general contacted me to say they killed off the so called rebels to never more, they contacted me some solid 6 times and was pretty fun, but i felt that it had no real ending, i got nothing out of it.

    • @A_Spec
      @A_Spec  5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Ah, Baldarak....bunch of commies

    • @WadcaWymiaru
      @WadcaWymiaru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Worm...loves you...

    • @kingbubbles9461
      @kingbubbles9461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ASpec
      Ah baldarak... bunch of violent revolutionists

  • @JoshSweetvale
    @JoshSweetvale 7 ปีที่แล้ว +713

    So this is basically a species committing incest with itself, after figuring out how to time travel.
    That sounds like Sunless Sea alright.

    • @nekomaru856
      @nekomaru856 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      As a race of amoral science foxes I totally agree with this.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 6 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      If you travel back and time and have sex with a younger version of yourself is it incest? Masturbation? Is it gay? If your underaged is it pedophilia? I'M SO CONFUSED! (and maybe a little aroused)

    • @8maduce502
      @8maduce502 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Joshua Sweetvale or it could be a species that lives in another dimension that used our dna to create a host to bring about their species in another dimension.

    • @wegner7036
      @wegner7036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same species sex, incest...
      HRMMMM

    • @clintonbehrends4659
      @clintonbehrends4659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arthas640 it is all of the above

  • @realdieperdors
    @realdieperdors 7 ปีที่แล้ว +626

    I have been mapping out what creatures turns into what, as it turn's out, it ISN'T random at all! Human's always turn into the blue-big-headed humanoids. Any fungoid turns into BLORG! Any mollusk turns into the squid-people with eyes! If you start as this race, you will mutate into the eyeless blue shelled squid people. [Will update the more i know.]

    • @UnnamedEmperor
      @UnnamedEmperor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Ah, thanks. I was curious about that. I saw another youtube vid about the Horizon Signal and humanity changed into the blue squid ones in that one as well.

    • @nanomachinesson2513
      @nanomachinesson2513 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Dieperdors W it looks like Platoid turks into the giant Beatles as well

    • @nanomachinesson2513
      @nanomachinesson2513 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Weerwet Them I think my game is glitched. My primary species was anthropod but I had uplifted a second plantoid species who made up half the empire. For some reason the plant species was actually the messenger scientist who turned into beetle, although completing the quest chain turns both species in my home system into beetles

    • @wegner7036
      @wegner7036 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds plausible.

    • @realdieperdors
      @realdieperdors 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait...the plantoid race turns into a anthropoid race?

  • @wegner7036
    @wegner7036 7 ปีที่แล้ว +838

    Wait, was this supposed to be horror? Are you kidding? First time I played through the event, I embraced the worm like a deity.

    • @PWN4G3FTW
      @PWN4G3FTW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Did the same, was still kind of creepy but cool.

    • @danieljames1868
      @danieljames1868 5 ปีที่แล้ว +211

      I just shot it. That bitch ate my scientists, gave a salvaged warform anxiety, and tried to make my people warmongers - thank goodness for genemodding and multiple planets...
      Don't care how much it loves me, that ain't a healthy relationship.

    • @handlesarecringe957
      @handlesarecringe957 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      TurtleShroom I feel like it should also make your Empire Fanatic Spiritualist and/or Fanatic Purifier.
      Hell, you know what, to make this better, there should be an even more extreme version of an ideology casus belli. Like Ideology meets Fanatic Purifier. Your species can’t tolerate other cultures and wants to annihilate all of them so the galaxy is homogeneous in belief.

    • @jhorseman3410
      @jhorseman3410 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      First time you played the event? Man I got the event first time I played, literally in the first black hole system I ever entered. THAT was amazing, fuck horror.

    • @urstaxfetish1206
      @urstaxfetish1206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The dark worm god of time and space all must embrace.... also gotta love the ascetics of the home system

  • @caelvanir8557
    @caelvanir8557 7 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    Horizon Signal. AKA, the DLC that turned everyone one Earth into squid people.

    • @PaulZeroSolis
      @PaulZeroSolis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      And any Fungi races that don't look like the Blorg, into the Blorg. Meaning that they lose the ability to easily make friends (if they had said ability to begin with).
      (If you don't know what I'm referring to, watch the "All Hail Blorg, Space Friends" series on the channel "Paradox Extra" (W/o the quotation marks on the channel and series names.)

  • @flood256
    @flood256 7 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    found a fun bonus thing if you're observing a primitive culture it can turn out that the develop a religion based on the loop that you can re-enforce for bonus culture science

    • @handlesarecringe957
      @handlesarecringe957 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I saw that after going through this event and bombed the shit out of the planet and purged everything. Shame there isn’t a mod that allows empires other than FP or DE to do annihilation bombardment, cause that’s what I would’ve done.

    • @Killzoneguy117
      @Killzoneguy117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      When that happened for me, that's when I really began freaking out.

  • @johnuthus
    @johnuthus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    ...... A fallen empire warned me to give them one pop, I refused. Now I know why they asked.

    • @ymir6843
      @ymir6843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lmao same

    • @generic4012
      @generic4012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t get it

    • @dovahwolf1397
      @dovahwolf1397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Squidward the pops changes

    • @RedRabbitEntertainment
      @RedRabbitEntertainment 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@generic4012 There's a fallen empire in the game that will tell you that at the rate you're going your species will likely die out soon, so to keep the species alive they want to take one of your pops to be kept on a preservation planet in their territory. If you do the event chain thats in the video your species gets assimilated and effectively dies out.

    • @RedRabbitEntertainment
      @RedRabbitEntertainment 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same, except I accepted their offer.

  • @TheOtherHuemin
    @TheOtherHuemin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    to trigger just have your manned science ship go to a black hole system over and over until it activates

    • @kerbalkrasher4487
      @kerbalkrasher4487 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      lmao i got it in a 10 guy mp the first black hole i found
      i conquered everyone cause i got so overpowered

    • @zetaomega8708
      @zetaomega8708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Wait you just have someone revisit a black hole over and over again... THATS IT?!?
      I always thought it was like an anomaly, ive been bum rushing black holes.

    • @danielanderson12321
      @danielanderson12321 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      so if you worship the worm.in the end, you technically give your home planet an extra terrestrial dimension duplication of itself where you get more slots, but exists in what was will, and always has been....awesome!!! dont kill the worm then, buying game tmoz hopefully

    • @realdieperdors
      @realdieperdors 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They patched this..

    • @shards7992
      @shards7992 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dieperdors W nope :)

  • @sgb3506
    @sgb3506 7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I had this event pop up twice only in black holes that get the name "Hell`s Maw"

    • @Hurmeri
      @Hurmeri 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I ended up testing this; Hell's Maw was also the signal-triggering system the first time I ran across the event.
      This month (so post Apocalypse release but before Niven patch) I went looking for the Horizon Signal again on a new game. Got it it started from a black hole titled "XK1 anomaly" or something anemic like that. So it's not tied to the same named black hole system.
      [comment necro-posted for the benefit of new'ish players to Stellaris who, like me, look for more info on this than the wiki provides and end up watching this video: if you want to trigger the Signal event, just be ready to reload countless times with a manned science ship entering any black hole until finally you get lucky]

    • @felixmustermann790
      @felixmustermann790 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      or just queue commands for a science ship to go in and out of a black hole... the % chance is very low in the first place and you dont have to visit new black holes, already visited and system searched ones work aswell, the only checkmark is the science ship with a scientist and a black hole system, the rest is RNG

    • @DISTurbedwaffle918
      @DISTurbedwaffle918 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine was called "Suskat's Maw"

    • @marcusgracey945
      @marcusgracey945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DISTurbedwaffle918 mine was Abbadon’s Demsene

    • @handlesarecringe957
      @handlesarecringe957 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve gotten it in Eye of Hawking and The Great Wound.

  • @brickcraftproductions3065
    @brickcraftproductions3065 7 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    a perfect way to spawn a Dimensional horror without Searching the Galaxy

  • @seedz5132
    @seedz5132 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The "WHAT WAS WILL BE" makes me think of "What is dead may never die"
    PS : this is not a GoT reference, but a Cthulhu one

    • @antred11
      @antred11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It reminded me of Battlestar Galactica's "All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again."

  • @kasper7574
    @kasper7574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i got the horizon signal legitimately in an ironman run, and strangely enough i just got both "A Rendevous" and "The Messanger: WHAT WAS, WILL BE" at the same time, kinda spooky
    EDIT: THIS RUN ALSO HAD THE INFINITY SPHERE AND I GOT THE EXTRA EVENTS FROM IT!
    EDIT EDIT: I started on a Gaia world and now I'm on a Tomb world, everything's come full circle, THE LOOP IS COMPLETE!

  • @redomer91
    @redomer91 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Only the people in the capital system change when the worm is embraced. Which is a bit annoying because this effectively splits your species.

    • @TAURELLIAN
      @TAURELLIAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ahhh but now you have a variant of your species you can use to colonize worlds that were previously off limits: and if you’re using the Orbital Annihilation mod, you can glass worlds from orbit with laser or plasma weapons or use nuclear missiles or a biowarfare research project (useful if you want their buildings but not their pops) to cast them into oblivion and colonize the tombworld that remains with your radiation-loving pops

    • @baronofluck2163
      @baronofluck2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or, and I am just spitballing here, use the pox or just set the other species to undesirables and watch them die

  • @bloodraven432
    @bloodraven432 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This actually seems like a cool thing to do. I wish there were more events like this, something that could change your species as a whole rather than give you a new unit or parts for your ships.

  • @Techymancer
    @Techymancer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    It has a very low percentage chance to trigger when a science ship enters a black hole system (It doesn't need to be in your part of space either).
    If you have a manned science ship to spare, you can queue up a bunch of movement in and out of a black hole system, and it should EVENTUALLY trigger. That's how I got it to start on my iron man play-through anyway.

    • @yogurtpants1401
      @yogurtpants1401 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Techymancer I believe it actually has a low percentage chance to spawn at the beginning of the game. Once it spawns it'll stay there, just for you.

    • @realdieperdors
      @realdieperdors 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It can initiate in black hole systems you've already been to. Never seen this happen but i heard someone say the even triggered when his science ship was travelling through a black hole he's already been too. So, i doesn't have to be a new black hole!

    • @yogurtpants1401
      @yogurtpants1401 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dieperdors W Well, shows what I know. I always play as a genocidal fanatic materialist empire anyways.

    • @horstmuller3373
      @horstmuller3373 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jea for me it triggered while i did enigma in a system i already discovered within my borders.

    • @ΒαγγέληςΠρίντεζης
      @ΒαγγέληςΠρίντεζης 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realdieperdors Aspec has done a video on it and it did work. I dunno if they changed it though

  • @Hurmeri
    @Hurmeri 6 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Was playing an agrarian idyll species of lovable newts. Ran into the signal, thought "these events aren't be worth all the hype". Then...
    * Hears what the final choice will be *
    * Calculates 11 planets/moons combined in home system *
    IA! IA! THE WORM FHTAGN!

  • @beefacts8270
    @beefacts8270 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The trait for Foredoomed to a Rendezvous gives 25% Sublight Soren and 25% Combat Speed

    • @A_Spec
      @A_Spec  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ye, it's in the game files, but I haven't seen it pop up in the game itself.

    • @majormythical7419
      @majormythical7419 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it bugged for you? I've found that trait in the section where you find all leader traits.

    • @syruproast1598
      @syruproast1598 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sublight Speed you mean? So it's like Gale Force? Wonder if they stack.

    • @A_Spec
      @A_Spec  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Major Mythical possibly, I haven't seen it anywhere.

    • @stewartgames6697
      @stewartgames6697 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have both traits on my admiral.

  • @reaverfang377
    @reaverfang377 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Oh that's why the event chain stopped I executed the scientists because I was getting scarred of the strange loop
    Edit: Oh it did continue then, I just avoided the species change event

  • @MarvinMegavolt
    @MarvinMegavolt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    So... we finally have an explanation as to what the Dimensional Horror is... a being of warped reality, from beyond space and time, come to feed on stars with the assistance of various "victim" races. I guess the Dimensional Horror that normally spawns as part of Leviathans is just another one, that punctured into this universe eons ago, feeding off of a long-forgotten star. Interesting...

    • @bdon2088
      @bdon2088 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      No, The Dimensional horror is probably different, and they couldn't bother making a new model, or that they are from the same dimension God and Satan if you will

    • @johnnygreenface4195
      @johnnygreenface4195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@bdon2088 not god nor Satan. Just a slice of 4th dimensional beings in the 3rd dimension

    • @thezyreick4289
      @thezyreick4289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@bdon2088 no, they are certainly the same thing. You are basically dooming your species to be consumed by an extra dimensional being by embracing it. Pretty sure they're adding an end game option to the game where any empires that embraced it get almost entirely wiped after a period of time by the dimensional horror being allowed to fully enter the galaxy through them embracing it and helping it through, turning into an end game crisis level event that the galaxy has to fight against

    • @rolandcaters7258
      @rolandcaters7258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@thezyreick4289 that already exists, and has nothing to do with the worm. If you make a covenant with “the end of the cycle” you get double basically everything for 50 years, then you, and your vassals get completely wiped out

  • @zerotwo6814
    @zerotwo6814 7 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    So the worm was as Dimensional Horror?

    • @realdieperdors
      @realdieperdors 7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Pretty much, a much more powerful version of it.

    • @wegner7036
      @wegner7036 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Nah, I think the developers couldn't afford an original model.

    • @realdieperdors
      @realdieperdors 7 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      It sort of works, lore-wise. The dimensional horror is supposed to be from hell, and with the Worm-in-waiting looking just like it, your race is basically being loved by a demon..

    • @user-dw3fp9ci3o
      @user-dw3fp9ci3o 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      zero two the worm is the one that send the dimensional horror

    • @elmobarrethawk3566
      @elmobarrethawk3566 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Dimensional Horror is the worm or at least part of it

  • @UnnamedEmperor
    @UnnamedEmperor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Horizon Signal aka Futurama: The Beast With A Billion Backs. To try and force the event in an Ironman mode, repeatedly send a Science ship in and out of a black hole.
    I just had a game where my vassal actually got the Horizon Signal event so their empire actually changed. So I was miffed that I couldn't get it but it was cool to see my vassal actually change.

    • @wegner7036
      @wegner7036 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      AIs never get horizon signal, only players. At least, to my knowledge.

    • @UnnamedEmperor
      @UnnamedEmperor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Weerwet the AI can get the event. My vassal got the event and changed their whole species with the black hole in the system. They even built the unique building.

    • @NodDisciple1
      @NodDisciple1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or Event Horizon. Or the Doom series of games.

    • @deyonvandraanen7492
      @deyonvandraanen7492 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was moving through allied territory when it happened on a black hole in their territory, does this transform my species or theirs?

  • @pleaserespond3984
    @pleaserespond3984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    No joke, I stumbled upon the Horizon Signal on my very first playthrough. I got 8 brand new planets to colonize in the end. It was the biggest boon to my empire and allowed me to begin my unstoppable domination spree. And just a few decades later, with some terraforming and gene editing, you would have never guessed that my species knew His Love.

    • @A_Spec
      @A_Spec  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds like you got the perfect combo. Ketlings and horizon signal.

  • @toougly2
    @toougly2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    And so I got hit with this event during multiplayer with a friend, was totally unprepared for the outcome. Came up to where the pops changed into a different species, but when that happened, every single pop went super unhappy. I mean, unhappy enough where they revolted half of my empire.... was like wtf? Took me better part of 20-30 years of trying to vassalise them and get them back.... after trying to figure out how to stabilize all of the unhappiness (everyone was at like, 10% unhappiness.... ON AVERAGE, it felt like) Was playig a pacifist empire, so it wasn't like I could just declare war on them to regain ground either.... have to go through a longer process and never could regen my entire empire :( But then the tomb worlds happened, that more than enough made up for those lost systems. (Never could get all of them as they went to other empires instead)

    • @ducttapeanddreams
      @ducttapeanddreams 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Syncretic Evolution, Spiritualist, and not changing your entire species helps with this. Spiritualist has huge governing ethics attraction, syncretic evolution friends are not effected by the ethics shift, and not changing your entire species keeps out colonies in line. Once your home world calms down the precursor sub species is very useful. A side benefit if you are an Empire, if you don't change your whole species your ruling family stays as your 'original' species, which comes in handy later once your capitol species becomes repugnant.

  • @mc.builder8267
    @mc.builder8267 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I haven't watched this yet as I am at work (on break) but, FINALLY, FINALLY, I have been waiting for this video ever since horizon signal came out.
    THAANK YOOOU!!!!!

  • @roderickvannoorloos1967
    @roderickvannoorloos1967 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please note that you do not need to agree to have your species genetically altered to still make the worm appear.
    I lucked out that the event triggered on my Iron Man playthrough using a Collectivist Militarist purging Empire. They purged any other species and of course couldn't allow such a thing to happen from within. So it was the execution squads for the scientist (though we kept the notes).
    Rest of the event still played out, though we did not give in to the worm, we returned its love by means of massed mass drivers.
    Didn't actually realise that the weird extra population events were also tied into this chain.

  • @joke_d
    @joke_d 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had this happend in my 2nd round playing this game. I choose first to embrace the worm because I wanted to see what happens but I wasn't really happy with it(since it didn't really "fit" my species or did it?) so I just loaded a save before it and killed it.
    Though a few other things happend to me than in your video. First I never got the change species on my captial or purge them thing. And another thing happened to me on a colony (I did not find the structers people was afraid of). My people started to disappear but others took their place, they were not in any records of the colonists who lived on the planet but all of them sweared that they where my people and something must be wrong and that they do not undestand whats going on. In time all the original colonist in the records where gone and "replaced" by the others. It just ended with "what was will be what will be was".
    Very cool chain to discover however!

  • @boang30
    @boang30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never doubt the worm! The worm knows all, his energy nourishes, his love protects!! NEVER DOUBT THE WORM!!!

  • @Silverraptorvideos
    @Silverraptorvideos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I had the worm appear in my last playthrough and I made preparations for it. It's best with a species that is collectivist and repugnant and you get the evolutionary traits already done, like adding thrifty to your species before doing this event. It will make all your species individualist with repugnant and intelligent on top of what you already had, so if you expect to encounter this chain one day, having a repugnant species and one that doesn't have intelligent from the beginning pays off big. Also make sure you have everything from the collectivist ethos that reduces ethics divergence. I managed to get -76% ethics divergence on all my planets when all my species went individualist, including orbital mind control platforms. After the change, try to avoid any war and let ethics divergence bring your species back to its original ethos (Mine was collectivist/Fanatic Xenophobic) It took about 100 years for all my species to go back, but I had a bunch of tomb world planets in my home system to develop, a species with the most amount of trait abilities added to it (Repugnant/Decadent/Very Strong/Thrifty/Intelligent/Resilient) and they were all back to the enslaving/purging species I was before the event chain. To get back to normal from start to finish took me a little over 150 years, but I had a large enough military to keep all the other species in the galaxy from declaring war at the time of great unrest from individualism, where you'll be at your most vulnerable. But afterwards your species will be the strongest in the galaxy if you can pull it off.
    Also, the spiral feed power hub is incredibly good. Yes you get a slight reduction in happiness but the extra energy credit bonus is greater then the regular power hub. Just remember it counts as a power hub, so if you have the powerhub built on planets already, you'll need to dismantle it before you can build the spiral feed power hub.

    • @jakubecz
      @jakubecz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      both give 20% bonus if we can have faith in the ingame desrciption. So the spiral feed actually doesn't give any bonus, and reduces your happyness by 5%. total waste.

    • @Silverraptorvideos
      @Silverraptorvideos 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, okay. Only difference is it takes only 100 minerals to get the spiral feed whereas to get the powerhub II, it'll take a combined total of 350 minerals. So if you are very conscious on your mineral total, I guess using the Spiral feed is a good substitute until you have a good mineral income again. Very rare circumstance, but a possibility.

    • @Gohka
      @Gohka 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do they perhaps stack? Or can you only build one or the other?

    • @Silverraptorvideos
      @Silverraptorvideos 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can only build one or the other.

    • @hakuro8775
      @hakuro8775 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the Spiral feed power hub is the same like the second stage power hub. Both do 20% energy credits but the spiral power hub has -5% happiness too. So never NEVER ever build the spiral feed power hub. It's not worth it
      My pops were fanatic pacifists + spiritualists ... so the most powerful combination to start with if you want to go into expansionism having a really large empire. I just finished the event chain too soon. My people all turned into fanatic militarists (which is cool for mid and late game if you want some action) and got the intelligent trait (+10% science bonus to all 3 sections) too. Unfortunatly I didn't know they would leave my people with negative points in traits, so after I wanted to change them I realized it would have been much better to do this event chain after researching all trait points and modifying your people.

  • @immortalsoldier1367
    @immortalsoldier1367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So coming back to this, I have a theory. What if the worm is a time looped version of the end of the cycle and when you make a pact you break that loop and unleash it. That's why it loves us, it wants us to release it.

  • @Jenkouille
    @Jenkouille 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Well... Obviously, I naturelly triggered the Horizon chain at my first Stellaris game ever. Let's stop the video and try it. I hope you'll all wish good luck to a poor 23st Century United Nation playing with something beyond it comprehension!

  • @MrErtwer
    @MrErtwer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This actually happened in my game once. All I can say is:
    All hail the squid people! *BLURP BLURP, BLURP BLURP*

  • @KageRyuu6
    @KageRyuu6 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Got this recently, pretty sure it's bugged in the current release as I was able to go over the max 5-6 traits, Psychic, Very Strong, Intelligent, Talented, Traditional, Deviant, and Non-Adaptive so far. Kind of curious to see if I'd get Natural Sociologists and Repugnant on top of all that as well. Also didn't affect ethics at all, started out Fanatic Militarist-Authoritarian, got a previous chain to become Spiritualist, Old Gods, and hasn't changed since despite going through the first change. Also all my extra citizens didn't disappear, and I'm pretty sure I have multiple clones of one scientist.

  • @SyberSlash
    @SyberSlash 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This event happened to enterelysium on his first utopia playthrough

  • @SnowflakeVee
    @SnowflakeVee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Apparently it's going to be more common in 1.5!
    One of the devs said it on the starfish stream they did.

  • @ChillaxPlay91
    @ChillaxPlay91 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    quick question. I have the flesh is weak ascension and has transformed my pops into robots. If i get this event, will my pops turn into those blue things or will they stay as robots forever?

    • @pyroball602
      @pyroball602 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      My guess they will turn into another type of robots.

    • @iAviator13
      @iAviator13 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flippytop should

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      no they sta robots but they get the inteligent trait on top of what ever traits they have even though thats supposed to be a biological only trait

  • @TapdotWater
    @TapdotWater 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got this event about a month ago and have become obsessed with it.
    What will be was what was will be

  • @commandantkrieg3467
    @commandantkrieg3467 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    And that moment when your absolute first stellaris game a giant chunk of your species goes nuts because of this.

  • @thomasboys7216
    @thomasboys7216 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Embrace the love of the Worm.

  • @yogurtpants1401
    @yogurtpants1401 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Note that one does not need to alter their species (aside from the initial science team) to complete the chain. Researching both techs is still required to finish the chain, and the "Waiting World" subchain will end badly for you if you reject species alteration.

  • @GC13
    @GC13 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Submitted for the approval of the Midnight Society, eh? Are you afraid of the Worm?

    • @A_Spec
      @A_Spec  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +GC13 whey, someone finally got the reference

  • @Gabriel-qh4yx
    @Gabriel-qh4yx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shattered loop:What was is lost, what will be is infinite

  • @austinkeesling6933
    @austinkeesling6933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just got this event chain. Sent the first science ship to activate it. It next asked me to send my governor.. "The Oracle" lol

  • @arigentum
    @arigentum 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got horizon signal on my first game, surprisingly. From a black hole called 'whispering maw' i think outside my territory. Crazy event chain i loved it. Inspired me to make a thologic society based on it even if it didnt occur in future games

  • @josephpentony4804
    @josephpentony4804 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had it triggered. My brain nearly died.

  • @Sereze001
    @Sereze001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found it.
    Time to put a citadel in orbit and make sure no one ever goes through the system within next few millenia.

  • @antitroller101
    @antitroller101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh shit, I actually got this and every time a leader dies I just causally send another saying “ok, this guy got killed but the next guy got this”

  • @erikmundhenk7528
    @erikmundhenk7528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Admiral with the Fordoomed to a Rendezvouz trait gives you a message when the Admiral dies, saying that there were rumors of odd circumstances surrounding their death.

  • @FireStillPlays
    @FireStillPlays 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually got this encounter my second full playthrough, but still have yet to encounter many things. This is why I love this game; every playthrough is different!1

  • @bmobmo6438
    @bmobmo6438 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WHAT WAS, WILL BE; WHAT WILL BE, WAS

  • @Moon_rise9
    @Moon_rise9 ปีที่แล้ว

    After few days of searching finally this event spawn. And I can say with a clear conscience WHAT WAS WILL BE, WHAT WILL BE WAS

  • @sgtrpcommand3778
    @sgtrpcommand3778 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found this and specifically avoided watching this video before I did it myself, and it honestly is one of my favourite additions to Stellaris. What a fantastic story and going through on a blind run really let me experience it in full.

  • @Rolatii
    @Rolatii 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this event chain, and I wish that Distant Stars had added more chains like it. One thing I noticed, however, was that I think you got the evolution part a bit wrong. It doesn't just add the intelligent trait: if you were already intelligent, you'll get a species variant that seems to be more warlike and robust, and the intelligent trait will be replaced to reflect that. If you have the strong trait, the opposite will happen. I remember the ethics having something similar going on, though I can't remember exactly how and whether it was tied into the ethics combo you had going on.

  • @tuomio5043
    @tuomio5043 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    this is very creepy

  • @michaeledmunds7266
    @michaeledmunds7266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Post apocalyptic origin: "I see this as an absolute win."

  • @SSFhighcommandJOHN
    @SSFhighcommandJOHN 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I expected Old Humanity to come out from those buildings and fuck up half of the empire.

  • @pyroball602
    @pyroball602 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robot Fanatic Spiritualist Psionic empire: Good day, The Worm, do you believe in the Shroud?
    The Worm: WHAT WAS SHALL BE WHAT SHALL BE WAS.
    Robot Fanatic Spiritualist Psionic Empire: Unbelievable, we found another God! Could we, make a deal with him, like with the Eater of Worlds or The End?

  • @SerunaXI
    @SerunaXI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Horizon Signal: When you want free planets.

  • @QuasarManiac
    @QuasarManiac 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought this game yesterday, and this is my very first playthrough with a race I made, and this thing triggered. Thanks for telling me not to go through with it, I don't want my race to be screwed up.

  • @tyrongkojy
    @tyrongkojy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using the old tile system, a Loop Institute was far more than just an energy nexus. The reason was you could build a nexus, then while that is building but before it finishes start construction on a loop. Then before that finishes upgrade your nexus. MASSIVE energy.

  • @CalvinBrooks12
    @CalvinBrooks12 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had this event happen in my first multiplayer game with a friend, over the weekend. I rigged my ship to detonate and I was able to still get the loop temple. There was also an option to contain the outbreak to just the capital planet, so I have two species portraits. Should have looked up your video first. Thanks for all the great content!!

  • @jazzfan1994
    @jazzfan1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Sitting in a bunker here behind my wall
    Waiting for the worms to come
    In perfect isolation here behind my wall
    Waiting for the worms to come"
    --- Pink Floyd, _Waiting for the Worms_

  • @BrightThread
    @BrightThread 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got this event while playing with a large amount of primitive worlds. There was an event chain where the primitive begin worshiping the loop. It gives you multiple opportunities to halt this, if you don't every pop on the planet disappears and the civilization is destroyed.

  • @CountryMusicMann
    @CountryMusicMann 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was such a sadistic bastard when this triggered for me. I played everything out to the bitter end, selecting every "fascinating" option that presented itself just to see what would happen next.

  • @kinagrill
    @kinagrill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gravity Is Desire. Literally what the Worm wants in the end of the eventline. It even references this in the eventchain end bit that it's what it's been asking for since the beginning. :P

  • @valky5318
    @valky5318 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    its very easy to trigger, just make some manned science ships patrol in and out of a black hole, has 1% chance to trigger. Set the end points of the patrol directly to the hyperlane connections and the duration of entering and exiting will be just the jump time. If you assign 3 ships to this will trigger the event on average after each ship looping 23 times.

  • @uberkommando2581
    @uberkommando2581 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was observing a primitive species while I was running through this. They needed up worshipping clocks and "closing the loop". They all died which was probably foreshadowing

  • @alfredv4724
    @alfredv4724 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got the horizon signal and infinity sphere in my last game. It was my third game of stellaris, and I found both really early on, so I was kinda confused about what was happening. Even though I sent in a spaceship rigged with explosives, the event chain still continued.

  • @ImperialHell172
    @ImperialHell172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just found this event and it was after I helped the infinity machine complete it’s infinite calculation and I’ll admit I’m kinda scared of it haha, there’s no way I’m embracing this thing

  • @Gurren813
    @Gurren813 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought it was an emergent behavior sort of thing. The universe itself acting like a computer and creating a "Program" that becomes the worm. A being higher than reality with the power to bend time to it's will.

  • @alexanderrahl7034
    @alexanderrahl7034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was playing multi-player last night with a friend for the first time. And an event popped up called "the loop closes" and it said something about "today is the day that was written about so long ago. Nothing to do but send the note through and forget this ever happened" or something. Which I think I remember from this event. Except I *never* got this event. So bummed out. I thought it was a glitch. I've only ever had the worm happen once, on my very first playthrough and it's what got me hooked on this game lol

  • @videopar9750
    @videopar9750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had this pop up when I was playing the console version of Stellaris

  • @Taurickk
    @Taurickk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spiral feed power hub gives planet-wide 20% energy credits. Same bonus as an energy nexus except you can have both on the same planet. Pretty awesome tbh

  • @SalvLav
    @SalvLav 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got this event after over 700 hrs of playing. If I hadn't heard all the memes about the Worm I would have thought it was an event from one of my mods.

  • @kavhas9796
    @kavhas9796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my first playthrough i got this event, and i got down that rabbithole in an instant worshipping the worm and spreading its message (not only in stellaris) but i got afraid to open the entry because i thought it would attack but now i know better

  • @josue117
    @josue117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That trick is no longer working. Now you have 1% chance to get the event every time your sience ship enters on each black hole system of the galaxy (Except the one with the infinity maching and the one with the dimensional horror).

  • @handlesarecringe957
    @handlesarecringe957 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve gotten the event. The Foredoomed to a Rendezvous trait gives the admiral a boost to ship speed. The Messenger can also have a boost to strength as well. And accepting the Worm also makes your species Natural Physicists and Repugnant.

  • @DameiusLameocrates
    @DameiusLameocrates 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I converted my entire species then my start system sun became a black whole and the 11 surrounding planetoids become tomb worlds that my new tomb world preference species could colonize, like 20 in game years after that, some Holy Guardians demanded I abandon all the tomb worlds, got the refuse demands modifier 3 times and it stacked, then they declared war, there demands were that I cleanse all the tomb worlds (including my original start planet), managed to peace out with only two small moons getting cleansed.

  • @Varichan
    @Varichan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i actually triggered this event pure by accident in one of my first playthroughs and it was awesome OwO

  • @owensmith2995
    @owensmith2995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aspec “it’s difficult to trigger I’ve never actually had it trigger”
    Me: had it trigger every play through I’ve ever done

  • @Unit87XB
    @Unit87XB 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    holy hell i was just thinking about you making a video from this

    • @tomsimpkins1211
      @tomsimpkins1211 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean you remembered you though of him making a video from this? You already watched it...

    • @Unit87XB
      @Unit87XB 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      What was shall be, what shall be was

  • @knutkraus6089
    @knutkraus6089 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was about going to sleep and suddenly i got the horizon signal so i stayed up for another 6 hours

  • @Blackhawkbomber
    @Blackhawkbomber 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got this event for the first time today(didn't even know it existed), and had to come here after it took my scientists and admiral. Glad I looked it up

  • @Yakamaru89
    @Yakamaru89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    .... Not sure if want to give up my fox species for this worm thingy. The worm looks like it came straight from hell with a fetish for black holes. And radiation.
    I've had it trigger in a black hole I already were in, inside my own territory. I honestly had no idea it was a large chain event. I just thought it was a huge "fuck you" mini-event to your science vessel. >_<
    Will definitely give this one a try!

  • @funcSAGE
    @funcSAGE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I triggered it somehow in my playthrough and i must say - there is more options if your species are spiritualists.

  • @mrballpython2105
    @mrballpython2105 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched this two hours ago and just found this for the first time so I had to come back.

  • @janwitt5220
    @janwitt5220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you missed something, or something was added later: When I did this event chain I had a station watching the space-faring human civilizatio in the sol system. They became obsessed with clockworks and circles, basically the same stuff as the worm / Snake events. That religion spread over the planet, and I was given the choice to stop it. Didn't do. Caused the entire species on the planet to just vanish.

  • @freedantheeternal
    @freedantheeternal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, I don't think I've ever actually finished this event chain.

  • @billbales8530
    @billbales8530 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had this happen to me. The worm in waiting is the questline, but your first science ship comes back

  • @oliverwirth42
    @oliverwirth42 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of my favorite stories I've ever seen in a strategy game.

  • @johiahdoesstuff1614
    @johiahdoesstuff1614 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was trippy

  • @nightsider01
    @nightsider01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again

  • @matthewbruveris680
    @matthewbruveris680 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i always changed capital to a 9 world system for this event then changed it back after accepting the worm. Also the spiral feed building can be built on habitats making it essential for power specific builds. A loop institute on every planet sent biology through the roof and by endgame could control 25 core systems without penalty.

  • @ShamanMcLamie
    @ShamanMcLamie 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had an event where a species was doing some sort of Loop worship and then they all disappeared.

  • @VenoTheLegend
    @VenoTheLegend 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many years later, I've come to confirm (if it wasn't confirmed already) that this event DOES trigger even with a galaxy that has an Infinity Sphere.

  • @francescorossi8493
    @francescorossi8493 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you have a observation post at the same time of the chains of event you trigger another chains that show the native became fanatic priest of the worm and phase out of existance

  • @404Floatnotfound
    @404Floatnotfound 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first time I got this event I was playing as a pre nerf ringworld subversive cult shortly after apocolypse dropped, my empire was called Followers Of The Eternal End.
    You can probably guess what happend next.

  • @cameronmcallister7606
    @cameronmcallister7606 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the advice of another commenter, I managed to get the event chain in a small friendly game, after a few hours of X3 game speed, I had finished it (I got kinda lucky with techs) and then followed this up by colonizing every tomb world I could, and begun what I announced was "The great purge" over discord. "The universe was once empty, what Was, will be, what will be, was."