Peach Craziness (planting whole fruits to grow trees!?!)
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When I was in college years ago, studying horticulture, my professor said that "the fruit feeds the seed perfectly." I've never forgotten that. Last year, I planted dozens of black walnuts whole, and this spring I had a bumper crop of black walnut seedlings. They were the strongest seedlings of all my plantings.
I did similar I don't have the facility of a cold cellar or fridge so I chucked about 12 walnut I collected from the ground outside a job site in December, left them in a cardboard box and planted them in a container this spring and I got 5 or 6 seedlings about a foot tall right now!
I love throwing whole walnuts around. Most probably die, but I must have still successfully started many trees this way. I like doing it with crab apples and plum\peach pits too. I like imagining them quietly feeding the animals and then maybe a person discovering a little peach grove somewhere unexpected and being so happy. In some areas the walnuts need no help, they are everywhere in the Ozarks. If I got land I'd focus on hazel and chestnut anyways, not let walnut dominate, just let a few get real big. I'd also see if a groundnut bed really can serve as a significant perennial source of starch calories. And start saving true potato seed and starting from there to find new colors and textures. All sorts of fun experiments brewing away in the old cabeza.
This makes perfect sense, I also like to spread pumpkin seeds around with pulp included.
Yeah, the idea of needing to clean off the nuts or fruits thoroughly before planting is definitely not true. Many thousands of trees from seed later I can say that with confidence. We like to store them/plant them with compost rich in red wigglers so they can do the perfect amount of cleaning!
I planted probably approximately 50 peach seeds in a garden bed in the fall of 2023. None grew in 2023. So I figured the squirrels got them. This spring a bunch of different weeds came up. I left them grow for a while, then started pulling them. Suddenly my Wife saw peach seeds. We have a bunch of nice peach trees growing now! A year later!
Yeah, that is super common... Neat story hope some are still alive!
Can’t wait to see what happens…..the beauty of being a gardener!!
Thanks!
What you just done defies what people think typical gardening is..... people make gardening way more tedious and perfect than it needs to be. I have done wild things like this and come up awesomely impressive results ☺️
Well said!
Interesting to see this. I tried something related earlier this year by instead of planting sweet potato slips, I planted whole sweet potatoes that had started to sprout. They went crazy. Almost like the best nutrient for sweet potato plants is sweet potatoes. I can't wait to see if your peaches sprout trees.
We planted whole sweet potatoes this spring and it was amazing how well they grew!
I’ll be waiting eagerly to see how this experiment turns out!
:)
How exciting. Good luck. Can’t wait to see the results.
Us too!
Good luck, I can't wait to see the results. It's an annual, so a bit different, but I did the same thing with some butternut squashes this spring. they were last years leftovers in the pantry that were starting to get funky. I planted them whole, but cracked them open a little. Now I have a HUGE mass of squashes vying to take over the universe
What an exciting experiment! Can't wait for the results!
If there is anybody out there thinking this is crazy just stop and ask How would a peach propagate itself in nature?
Being swallowed, digested and shat out by elephant?😅
Yeeah, but the wild planted peach has a very low likelihood of survival. The amount of food available to chipmunks, squirrels, moles, voles, trash pandas, etc is considerable and easily attainable.
It's a completely different setup and density (some of the wild peaches would have been picked clean by birds).
Remains to be seen, bu i wouldn't have wasted the time and energy on the project. Better to process some of the fruit and spin the rest in the drill powered paint mixer like black walnuts. A tried and true ststem
This is so fun to watch :) The element of play in trying something so experimental.
Why not!
Very cool. Please share results next year! I've thought about doing this to simplify planting peaches but will be very interested to see your success rate. I haven't been brave enough to try yet!
Will do!
I've planted peaches underground and also lying on the ground covered by fallen leaves. I lost all the planted peaches but did get sprouted peaches from the ones on top of the ground. I got most of the info from the univ of Georgia and they know about peaches there. My peach trees all grew and produced, some much better than others and flavours varied too. I've also germinated walnuts and butternuts by just leaving them outside in a plastic bag over winter. LOTS of winter in Canada.
Very cool!
An electric BCS is pretty wild. Never seen one before. Definitely cool idea
I did this accidentally 10 years ago with scraps from 2 boxs of peaches I bought. Thew them out along a fence row uncovered for the animals to eat ,raccoon ,squirrel and possums . A couple of years later, i noticed seedlings. I now have several large peaches trees
So amazing!
The biggest problems I foresee: Possible critter activity digging out your yummy peaches before the ground freezes; dealing with extracting individual seedlings when their roots are as intertwined as these would seem destined to be.
I wonder if the tangling issue is mostly a matter of timing. If you got them out when small it wouldn't be too difficult to separate. Otherwise some sort of spacing grid wouldn't be too hard if the tangling is a problem. I don't know whether the pest issue will be something or not, we'll find out. Yellow jackets always feast on apples if they're just lying around, maybe insects will clean up the pits and leave some nice poo compost.
Now I'm wondering if the easiest way to propogate fruit trees is to rake the fruit out away from tree in a circle around it. Throw some soil and wood chips or leaves on them and come back next spring to separate out tree babies from the loose pile.
Yep, I did this- plant the entire fruit -method. The groundhogs, squirrels and raccoon’s had a scavenger picnic, left the seeds on the ground after they dig up the whole fruit. 🤷🏻♀️ Consider-protecting the planting better than I did.
@@katiemoyer8679 Or just let them eat the fruit then gather up the pits and plant them
@@katiemoyer8679 Hmm, now I'm thinking it'd be nice to gather the fruit onto a surface where it'd be easy to find all the dropped pits after the animals have had their meal. Like a patch of concrete or a tarp.
Yeah I hear ya. Raccoons and opossums and the like aren't in this field much so would it be deer digging them? Not sure but seems hopefully unlikely... Roots should be fine, we've done it a ton before. It isn't super easy but it's not a big deal generally.
What an exciting experiment 😃
Thanks!
It will be interesting to see how many germinate
What a great experiment. Here is hoping it pays off.
Thanks
I'd like to see this updated over time don't forget about it please :)
We'll plan on the update next year
The squirrels are some where watching you and smiling.
I hear you on that, although there are not squirrels in this particular landscape since it is so so far to the nearest hedgerow
You'll definitely get new Peach tree seedlings. The dropped fruit from my few peach trees and the ones partially eaten by critters leave enough pits on the ground that germinate over the winter so that I have peach tree seedlings growing like weeds in the spring. Don't plant your garlic on or around it though. Garlic doesn't like competition.
This is zone 8 if that has any bearing on it.
We'll plant the garlic near them on either side, it has worked nicely in the past. AMPLE compost for all should resolve competition
I have a feeling you're going to have tons of peaches this is more or less how nature does it can't wait to see the results
We're excited
I can't wait to see how it turns out, looking forward to the video with the results!!
Me too!
This makes a lot of sense to me. I love doing this will walnuts, I gather them and just throw them around potentially good spots. Most must die, but I figure the green husk must be feeding the seed and preparing the soil for it. Nature does stuff on many levels simultaneously.
For sure!
Sometimes abundance forces us to take action to accommodate more abundance. Bravo! Looking forward to see what happens. Mystery!
This is very cool, hope it works out!
I hope so too!
I think it's a great idea. There's a small apple tree in my backyard. During years that it actually grows apples, deer come by for a nibble here and there and I've occasionally chucked bad ones out into the yard. Maybe from now on, I'll just dig quick holes and drop them in to see if something grows.
Why not!
Hope you and the Fam are doing well.batten down the hatches fall is here love you're channel I'm passing it on👍
Feels like we're moving a bit towards fall now for sure
Yes I try this method and it works beautifully so many trees you will have awesome ideal. Thanks for sharing
Glad it worked for you before! We've done similar things in the past with decent success so we'll see...
This is such a great idea! I know that most of these peaches will probably end up as food for our wild friends, but that's wonderful too. Even if you only get a few peach trees out, it's worth the labor cost because the peaches themselves are free. It's the very end of the peach season where I live, so I might ask so of my friends who own orchards for a few rotten peaches to try this myself. Thanks for sharing!
Good luck if you try! Hoping for 100 peaches, could see many more than that. We'll share...
Makes perfect sense to me.
I think....why not. There is nothing to lose here. It's a great idea. It may take into the spring of 26 to see them germinate so be patient. ☺
Yeah, something to design around...
I've seen apples buried in mass that sprouted likewise in mass. I'll bet the peaches will sprout better than the cover crop seed if I can get a couple points.
I hope so
Nature cares for it's self. Definately should work, if they don't get dug up by wildlife. Worms & other crawlies will love their winter feast. 😊
We'd hope so
This is super interesting! Our neighbour has awesome peaches which we were not all able to process… I gonna try that with a spot in my little garden, too. If only one works out, I’ll be super happy, because these peaches were the most delicious ones I ever tried!
And I‘ll do the same with my favourite plums… 😁
Thank you for this great idea! ❤
Plums and peaches tend to be at least similar to the ones they came from so definitely worth the effort.
@@edibleacres thank you for the comment and the encouragement to do so! 🙏👍 If it works out, I'll get back here to let you know... ☺️
I have a house nearby that has a large peach tree right by the sidewalk and has many drops. I was pondering this very experiment yesterday! Great video idea.
Good luck if you try it!
Interesting experiment! I’ve got way too many overripe plums to deal with and this seems like a fun thing to try with them.
Why not!
Reminds me of when Del Oro dumped whatever it was 12,000 tons of orange peels in Costa Rica in the 90s.
I love this! Interseed buckwheat maybe, it will winterkill but the fungi you riled up with that walkbehind will be able to connect to living roots as soon as they can :) This makes a big difference! It is great that the peaches are fermenting over winter and releasing the nutrients the peaches should need in the future. Lovely idea!
Nice idea, yeah buckwheat would have been good. Turkeys have been strong in this field so grain seed is a tough one right now though :(
you could also plant the garlic directly on top of the peaches as the harvesting season will be just before they sprout out.
I appreciate the idea but in practice peaches come up certainly before the garlic is ready to harvest and I think it would be a problem for the two...
The motor controller looks like a Curtis PMC probably from flight systems, used on forklifts, golf carts and other small electric vehicles
Surprised the chickens didn't get some! Love the electric tiller.
They get a LOT of stuff especially this time of year
Seems compelling to me. I would think someone would have tried this before.
Thanks for the video
I'm sure ample folks have
Interesting experiment!!
Thank you very much. Thumbs up, liked..
I love these came from an organic orchard - my peaches went wild this year too - also organic - and so many uninformed farmers refuse to let this information into their brains .... look at so much overload in a good year - which I hope Sasha can preserve what she put aside and you can at the very least give the soil a boost - and at best come out with northern hardy seedlings ! so they can do the same in a few years for other families
Thank you for sharing all this!
Interesting idea! Looking forward to seeing how it goes. I might try this on a smaller scale with pawpaws this year. Maybe it'll be a good technique for fruits like these that don't store very well.
Could work with Paw Paws although if it is a cold climate like ours youd want to be sure to mulch nicely to avoid too much cold getting down in there!
Soft boy, good heart
interesting idea. Thanks for sharing
For sure
Great idea! My one concern is the possibility of wildlife finding the peaches and making a huge mess.
I think this is a great idea!! Please make a followed video, I am very curious what's gonna happen.
Yep, can do
I wonder if you could get a bunch of tree babies by mulching over the fallen fruit around a tree. Probably depends on the tree, some seeds want to go through a digestive tract. But how cool if all you had to do to supply a nursery was allow the tree to drop it's fruit, then drop its leaves over the fruit, and wait. Might not even need extra mulch, just its own. Go in next spring a get a bunch of baby transplants to pot up and remove all that potential light competition from the parent. I love when a single tree gets all the light and grows side branches for climbing. An apple tree that is also a good climbing tree is like a joy machine for children, a memory maker. For adults too, but many have forgotten the simple pleasure of climbing a tree and have stiffened their bodies from enduring decades the grind. I have made a lot of mistakes in my life, but I never stopped climbing or appreciating trees.
It woudl work with a lot of plants, just a little rough on the main roots of the host tree. Deep enough mulch and it would be a non issue. We do this with Cornus Mas...
it will work. happens naturally here all the time. peaches could be considered a weed at my place lol.
a very tasty weed...
For sure!
I'm surprised you didn't give them to the chickens first, and then harvest the pits afterwards.
We generally do, and we have more to do that with :)
This was just too much to handle multiple times and probably a bit too much mold/sugar for the hens all at once
❤❤❤ Great idea
Thanks
Curious to see the rate of germination. Prunus species are reported to have germination inhibiting compounds in the fruit. Large scale propagation often involves cleaning the seed followed by leaching the seed in multiple changes of water. At first It seems like a strange adaptation but on further consideration it occurs to me that if a tree wanted to really "move", being dependent on some creature to pick up the fruit, eat it, and deposit the clean seed in a new location where it's not in "competition" with the parent plant, this would be a useful adaptation. Thanks for sharing
I have very rustic nectarines (called Brugnons in French) they have great germination and self-replication true to parent plant. But peaches are more finicky : peaches may take 2 winters before they sprout, in my experience.
Stone fruits often sprout the year after I spread compost, so they spend 1 year in compost, 1 year to sprout in place.
Yeah it's a tricky scene but hopefully we can have it work out...
I had a much better germination rate with peaches this year by cracking the seeds in January. But with the amount of seeds, that would probably no longer be possible
Yeah that would be too much but I could imagine it being worthwhile on smaller numbers
I know this is unrelated to your video, but I think I saw you are growing Amaranth. I'm a beekeeper in town, looking for reasonably tall plants to push the bees above head height (doesn't have to be that tall, but something to get the bees to start flying up. Thinking of making a wall of Amaranth. Would this plant make a decent wall, say planted 8" apart backed up with taller Goldenrod and other Asters that get about 6' tall. Live in Northern Maine zone 4a. Thought the red flowers would be interesting and get attention away from the bees. Also, have you ever worked with Iceplant (Hylotelephium Spectabile)?
I can't say for sure but Amaranth seems like a good fit for what you are describing
I meant to say I planted them in 2022 in the fall. They grew a year and a half later.
Wonder what a couple gallons of milk might do concerning paenibacilli, although I'd probably wait until after they degrade but before the cold nights.
Something to explore perhaps...
You know I've thought about this before it's like in nature the fruit would just fall from the tree and get buried or get carried off by an animal and then the flesh would rot off over time. So I wouldn't see why this wouldn't work I'm sure the germination and success rate is pretty low but out in nature it's probably pretty low as well So here you're giving it all the benefits and opportunities and best conditions you can so maybe it'll be good maybe it won't be we'll find out
We'll have to see. 10 trees would make it worthwhile, I'd guess many hundreds will work out
i mean the tree put the fruit around the seed for a reason
Sure did!
Intuitively at least that seems primarily about enticing animals to eat it as a way to elicit some help with relocation. It likely serves some purpose either way, but my hunch is that the fruit is more helpful with respect to relocation via animals eating it than it is helpful towards the seed growth otherwise. The data could tell another story. That's just my hunch.
Throw garlic bulbs in on top for critter protection?
I'm not worried about critters with these. Could be wrong on that but it seems OK...
Do you sell some of that cabbage you're growing?
We share. We eat every day so when you grow a lot of your own food its crazy how much you actually need!
QUESTION - What creature would the fodder be for ?
The pulp in the soil would feed soil life for sure. Worms!
will you water in the mustard seed or wait for rain ?
We'll hope it rains, I'm not dragging buckets of water down there!
When I planted peaches that I got from an orchard, the peaches that the trees produced are all white peaches. I believe that it was the root stock to get zone hardy. They are sweet but definitely not the freestone bright orange colored peaches that I planted
That is different from my experience. We have seedlings from fruit from the past that made trees with phenomenal fruits, and some that aren't as ideal. It's a mix :)
@@edibleacres I am not going to stop trying. My goal is to find trees that are not on a rootstock. True trees that will grow in zone 6
How much an electric bcs usually cost, if i could ask ?
It was a custom build and not something he does as a thing so I'm not sure... You'd need a skilled person to help. Cost us $1500
Could this work with plums?
I don't see why now. Certainly it's an experiment though!
what is the point of having peaches spaced this close together?
This will be a nursery bed. They'll grow here for one season (sprout spring 2025) and be dug up fall 2025 for sales or for planting at final spacing elsewhere...
biodynamic farmers do this
Neat!
Keep thinking sideways! And perhaps like nature itself.
:)
What I've been told is that since they were not grown on their original trees, it might not work. I've been trying for years. I tried everything...finally just bought a tree instead. I did however grow a cherry tree from seed once...then my husband cut it down...grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
You're married to George Washington?
if its not cross polinated
they never grow true to form but its scare tactics when people say the fruit will be terrible
@@davidakerlund6296On the contrary, people in my part of the world grow peaches from seed all the time and what you typically get is a smaller peach that is more resilient to disease and more prolific, and can still be sweet and juicy. And you can always graft something you want on there, they don't tend to grow huge.
Absolutely can grow peach and other stone fruit from seed and get good, strong, nice tasting offspring. I've done it for 15+ years and can say it works from my own direct experience
common sense tells you this; the fruit that surrounds the seed will give it the proper moisture and planting it in the outside soil(say the fall of 2024) the seed will not sprout until late spring 2025 = cold stratification 101.