We Hungarians know it with historical facts and our blood!!🙏🌹🔥 However, it is very important that we are not represented by Viktor Orbán: he is not Hungarian
It is impossible for two Asian parents to have an white baby(Anatolians)!😅😅 The Mongols= East Asians, Southeast asian, Altaic people (Turkic, Mongolic, and Tungusic speaking people), American Indians/Native Americans East Asians and Native Americans are Sinodont They carry the EDAR gene, found in ancient and modern East Asians, East Siberians and Native Americans but not common in African or European populations The EDAR gene causes the Sinodont tooth pattern, and also affects hair texture,jaw morphology,and perhaps the nutritional profile of breast milk A very small minority of people in Turkey carry genetic markers that are also found in Mongolia, Korean,Janpanese . Turkic peoples never became a majority in Anatolia, even up to the present day. The Turks of today are the historic Anatolians who have simply taken on a Turkish identity as they had previously taken on a Greek identity.
@@夜行者-s2x You must know the concept of nation-state. There is no belief in Turkey that we are all pure Turkic. You can think of it like Hungary. This is very normal for Europe and the Middle East. Even Balkans and Levantine are mixed. Turks mixed with many peoples for a long time, neither pure Greek nor pure Turkic. It would be more accurate to say Persian. Anatolian Turks have a lot of similarities with Iran, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan. There is already a nationalist Greek class that has preserved its own language. The population that we can call Greek is very small anyway, most of them immigrated to Greece. Albanians, Bulgarian and Bosnians outnumber Greeks. The Balkans and Iran are warrior communities that have preserved their language. If Turks were a minority, it would be impossible for Oghuz Turkish to be widespread in such a large region. The peoples who were the majority in Anatolia were Oghuz Turks, Kurds, Armenians and Greeks, but today there are almost no Armenians and Greeks. Today, Balkan Turks, Turkmens from neighboring countries, other Muslim Balkan peoples and Caucasian Muslims are included in the population.
Omg, this is so fun! Kazakhs and Hungarians are brothers, we are all Turkic people! I get an awesome feeling in my tummy when i see my brothers and sisters find each other and find out that they are brothers and sisters of each other 🥰🥰🥰. People put borders between us so we forget about each other, but now time has caught up to it and now we Turkic people are finding each other and understanding each other way better because of that. I must admit that Hungary finding out of its Turkic past makes me very very happy. And man, i want to hug you both so much, like i want to squeeze you both 😂😂😂. My love to you all! ❤️❤️❤️
It is impossible for two Asian parents to have an white baby(Anatolians)!😅😅 The Mongols= East Asians, Southeast asian, Altaic people (Turkic, Mongolic, and Tungusic speaking people), American Indians/Native Americans East Asians and Native Americans are Sinodont They carry the EDAR gene, found in ancient and modern East Asians, East Siberians and Native Americans but not common in African or European populations The EDAR gene causes the Sinodont tooth pattern, and also affects hair texture,jaw morphology,and perhaps the nutritional profile of breast milk
The conquest proper of Hungary is dated at the end of the ninth century, in 896, when the seven Hungarian tribes (Nyék, Megyer, Kirt Gyarmat, Jenó, Tarján, Kér, and Keszi) and the three Kabar tribes, led by Prince Árpád, gradually filled up the Carpathian basin, except for the zones of beechwood and the coniferous forests. The "conquering Hun garians" are equivalent to the upper circle of the people (with rich furniture); some of them spoke two languages: Onogur-Turk and Ugrian-Hungarian.
Hungarian is a Uralic language with heavy Turkic influence (mainly from Chuvash, Bulgar, etc.); but their closest relatives are still Ugric languages (Khanty, Mansi) in western Siberia, of the Finno-Ugric branch (Uralic language family). Most basic words relating to kinship, everyday items etc. are mainly still Uralic / Finno-Ugric; words related to animal husbandry, herding are more Turkic; and of course there are also other loanwords from Slavic, Germanic etc.
well as a Turk myself I wouldn't say Hungarians are Turkic (except some minority group called Szekely which descends from Avars from what I heard but I might be wrong) but them not being Turkic is not a problem on our interactions. We consider ourselves "family" with all the nomadic tribes of Eurasian steppes be they Mongols, other Turkic folk, Finns, Hungarians etc. Our roots are similar and even though we migrated from our ancestral homelands that nomadic warrior culture is what makes us related (culturally) and it is what makes us all unique. Greetings from Türkiye :)
Turkic people and Turkish isn't same thing The main sources of Turkish descent are Middle Eastern+Southern Europe,not Siberia or Central asia The root of East Asians, such as Chinese, Koreans, or Japanese, but also Northeast Asians, Siberians as well as Southeast Asians, Pacific Islanders and Native Americans, can be traced back to the “Ancestral East Asians” (also known as Basal-East Asians or basal East-Eurasians “bEE”). The ANEA/The Northern East Asian can be differentiated into broadly four sub-groups, namely the “Ancient Northeast Asians“ (ANA), “Neo-Siberians", "West Liao River farmers", and "Yellow River farmers". Turkic, Mongolian, Tungusic, Korean, Japanese, Native American,they share the same ancestor - Ancient Northeast Asians, ANA and the Yellow River farmers (Han Chinese) are derived from the same ancestor - ancient North-East Asians This is the reason why they look alike
@@TurquazCannabiz “Modern Turkish came from Central Asia” theories, which mainly serves the Turkish political propaganda,it's false propaganda😂😂 Early Turkic peoples are primarily associated with “Ancient Northeast Asians” (ANA), and Chinese (and other Sino-Tibetans) are associated with the Yellow River farmers.They are all descended from Ancient-North-East Asians(ANEA) Today's people of Central Asia are a mix of Iranic(Saka, Scythians, Sogdians..)and Turkic peoples (Northeast Asian) First, These Turks assimilated some Saka, Scythians, Sogdians.....Shaped the Eurasian race The Turkic Yakuts have about 90% Northeast Asian DNA. Kazakhs and Kygryz having on average 70-80% East Asian ancestry, and Uzbeks ~35-60% East Asian ancestry. Turkmens are more diverse and can range from as little as 10% to up to 45% East Asian ancestry. The Hazara of Afghanistan similarly range from 55-65% East Asian ancestry. Then,these Turkified Indo-Iranian speakers entered Anatolia, killed and assimilated the Byzantines ( Anatonians,Armenians, Greeks.....) Most modern Anatolian Turks have only about 5%-10% Northeast Asian DNA in average Greeks, Egyptians, Arabs...they have a negative view of Turkey and/or Turks with special dislike for the Ottoman Empire. Therefore, the Anatolians turned to Central Asia or Far East
Even more important than language is the fact that we Hungarians consider Asian peoples to be distant relatives due to our Asian genes, which is why we do not keep such a distance as Westerners.
Exactly, this is how I felt whenever I stayed in Asia. I felt there is a wall between western cultures and Asia but not between ours and Asian cultures. This is what I tried to emphasize a bit in this video ;)
Hi Balnur, your vlog is really enjoyable, you were lucky for having found the excellent conversation partner. The picture he painted differs somewhat from my everyday experiences, but this is a question of distance we are looking at. It is interesting and instructive to see the common traces back in history. Concerning the eating of horse meat it is a kind of cannibalism for me and in the general world view of many around.
There is even a tribe in Kazakhstan called „madjar“…in general Hungarians with partly nomadic origin do have in average 2-4% autosomal eastern asian(asiatic) dna…it is to less to effect the phenotype but it is still there. Greetings brothers. By the way in Türkiye we use the words anne and ana for mother, anne is more modern and Istanbul dialect but when you go deeper in Anatolia or villages they use to say ana.
We say “Kazan” in Turkish as well but there is also type of kazan mostly we use for storing yoghurt, milk etc. which calls “Bakraç”. Not sure if the word passed to Hungarian during the Ottoman era or it was a common word from old connections but it is interesting to see lots of similarities.
There are much more if you do a liinguistic analyze. For example ól in Hungarian and ауыл in Kazakh or ağıl in Turkish have the same root. The Turkish form is the same as in Old Turkic where it did describe the camp and/or the place where the animals are. In Kazakh this meaning of camp shifted to village, whereas in Turkish and Hungarian it shifted to the place where the animals live. In case of Hungarian pork barn and in case of Turkish chicken barn. An other example is Kolbasa, which is only in use in Dialects in Turkey, but the common term in Hungarian and Kazakh (also russian) for sausage. Builded from the turkic words kol - arm and basa from bas- -- to press, push, put, refering to the originally production technique. Arslan (turkish), oroszlan (hungarian), arystan (kazakh) are actually persian loanwords. I just remember, there is also Biczka (correct form?) in Hungarian, Bıçak in Turkish and бышкак (not sure if it is totally correct, but should be more or less like that) in Kazakh, which means knife, builded from old turkic biç- -- to cut and the suffix for repeating actions -gak, so "something, which cuts all the time or something, which cuts again and again". Киши in kazakh and kiczi in hungarian are cognates to küçük in Turkish, which comes from old turkic kiçig. The g sounds at the end of the words dropped in all turkic languages except usbek and uyghur. In Turkish they builded the form kiçiçük with the diminutive -çük. The ü sound caused that the i's got assimilated to ü as well. Then a syllable was skipped to make it easier to pronounce, so we get the nowadays form. In Kazakh it's with a sh sound because kazakh had several sound shifts since old turkic from ch to sh and from sh to s, which can also be observed in the example of knife.
Those Hungarian words are _bicska_ (small knife) and _kicsi_ (small). The _cs_ makes a ch sound. It's interesting that you mention that "bas" means to push, to press. In Hungarian we have a related word, it's a cussword, _baszik_ which means to f*ck, to have sex. Another related word is _boszorkány_ which means witch.
@@gabor6259 thats interesting in turkish to f*ck is _sik(iş)_ the hungarian ba _"szik"_ sounds similar , bas is tricky since it can also become baş (bash) which means head but it can also used as slang.
I wish you interviewed me because I would be able to explain the Hungarian language. I am a Linguistics student..so I want to explain firstly.. we are Uralic... and were the original inhabitants of the Ural mountains ..afterwards Turkic tribes came to the Urals and intermixed with us. Yes we are related to Finn peoples (all of them... Komi,Karelian,Sami ,Veps, Mordvin and so on) But ~ they Left the Ural Mountains Earlier then the Magyars did and went into North europe and became very Scandinavianized. (this is why some Hungarians don't like to be associated with them because they think = scandinavian) Also this is a worldwide Misunderstanding about the Uralics ! apparently most foreigners + some Hungarians think that Uralic = "scandinavian" this is wrong ... Uralic is their own group! and originally Asian. th-cam.com/video/7pZwgsoUlxU/w-d-xo.html here is a Hungarian documentary about the Mansi people (closest relatives to Magyar people) watch 05:00 the word for eye stayed the exact same in both languages (cem) eye + em possessive "my" therefore cemem = my eye(s) and in Hungarian szemem (pronunciation same) the 3rd closest language to Hungarian is Udmurt (udmurtia is next to Chuvashia and Bashkortostan) I study Udmurt and it is a very important Language because ..just like Hungarian it has been Turkified. Udmurt also has a variation of 'Var' in Hungarian van .. in Udmurt Vanj ecample here english = I have two cats. Chuvash = manăn ikkӗ kuşak pur. Udmurt = minim kuik koçizes vanj. Hungarian = nekem két macska van. ! however you will not find such an influence of Turkic in other Uralic languages. expecially all the Finn branch languages ..because they left the Urals before the arrivals of the Turkic tribes th-cam.com/video/viJ74h8-4cU/w-d-xo.html as shown here ✌watch between 06:00 - 09:00 we Hungarians do not actually call ourselves Turks ...if we want to be accurate we say the term Turkified-Uralic because it perfectly explains what Hungarian (and Udmurt) is. th-cam.com/video/16MqL9hGo3o/w-d-xo.html also here is the Mansi traditional instrument I am trying to spread awareness about this because the world ..doesn't seem to understand who and what the Uralics are.
english = I have two cats. Turkish Benim iki kedim var Chuvash = manăn ikkӗ kuşak pur. Udmurt = minim kuik koçizes vanj. Hungarian = nekem két macska van.
@@travelwithbalnur Also saying to the guys face that he looks like a Tatar... I don't know, that seemed rude to me, maybe it's just me. Our cultures are very different
I believe that the Uralic languages themselves are beautiful, especially Finnish with its unusual melodicity. Why do you need to look up to the Turks?
A very nice video; the feeling of Turkic communities being a big family is very nice. Turks have considered those who speak their own language as Turks throughout history, so DNA doesn't matter. What matters is feeling like you are part of this big family. This is not racism, but a feeling that comes from sharing a common past, from sharing common roots.
Please come to Kurultaj this summer both of you, I´m participating with our group of horse archers :D It is very good to see you conversing about our cultural similarities and you seem to be good people!
The Hungarian language is the most important source for reconstructing the West Old Turkic language spoken west of the Ural in the 5th-12th centuries. The study by Arpad Berta and Andras Rona-Tas deals with the etymology of about 500 Hungarian words which are or may be of Old Turkic, in some cases of Middle Turkic origin. The Hungarian-Turkic contacts began in the 5th century and lasted a long period. The earliest loanwords were copied from a Western Old Turkic idiom; the latest loanwords were borrowed from the language of the Cumans who settled down in Hungary in the first half of 13th century. The authors excluded the Ottoman words from the corpus. In all cases the authors give the etymology of the Turkic word, the reconstructed copied form, the form as adapted by the Hungarian language and the history of the word. The detailed introduction focuses on the former research, the historical setting and the technical framework. In the concluding chapters the authors reconstruct the Ancient Hungarian language at the time of the Turkic-Hungarian contacts and outline the structure of the West Old Turkic language. A bibliography and several indices help the reader to use the book. West Old Turkic: Turkic Loanwords in Hungarian, László Károly András Róna-Tas, Árpád Berta, László Károly
as a hungarian who lives in the Alföld region wich is part of the eurasian steppe we have horsemeat here horsemeat sousage is while not eaten everyday its common enough to find
no,ur not alone or isolated in europe...were related...i feel more close to hungarians than my neighboring countries or even turkic nations... its all about the step,eurasia and asia...the food is great too!
It was a very interesting and kind video. Visit Budapest sometime, I'm sure that you will find it very exciting and inspire. Btw... there is a surname in Hungary the "Kozák", literally means kazakh or kazar man. Greetings from Budapest! ;-)
3:12 They don't believe it. They know it. And linguistic proximity is not the same as cultural proximity. 8:37 The word "kazán" exists in Hungarian but it means the central heating unit in a house. So it's definitely a related word. 18:08 It's "baba", not "bobo". Anyway this was very interesting. :)
The Proto-Ugric word *lox is reconstructed from Hungarian ló 🇭🇺 Mansi lū, and Khanty law, all meaning "horse". The word is neither of Uralic nor Indo-European origin, nor does it resemble any of the words for "horse" in known Eurasian language families. ló horse (plural lovak) compare Mansi лув (luw) and Khanty лог (log). May be a borrowing from the language of the Botai culture. 🇰🇿 The Botai culture was an archaeological culture of prehistoric northern Central Asia, which existed between **3700 BC and 3100 BC**.
The Uralic languages haven't been separated yet 6,000 years ago. So if the word for horse had come from the Botai, it would be in all Uralic languages.
With my turkish A2 level i understand all words from kakzak and hungarian but the last Kok - Kek (blue) is so much different in tukrish (mavi). Please some turkish speaker can told my etymology and roots of the word ?
In Europe the word of mother starts with letter "m" in some languages and start with letter "a" in some languages (even Basque). When we look the structure of sentences we see that there is a correlation. Turkic and Uralic languages are Agglutinative and SOV.
I could never tell Atilla isnt a Turkiye Turk by his accent in English. His accent is a hundred percent how we sound when we speak English (if we didnt practice hard for a native-like accent beforehand of course)
100%. I am Hungarian, but have a Turkish work mate...so apart of alma, balta, bicska, bogrács etc, we have to speak English to understandd each other, and he has the same accent as this hungarian Attila.
Most of the Hungarians I've spoken have a misunderstanding on how Turkic words got into their language. They were not loaned from Ottomans, they were loaned from Kipchaks like Kumans who settled in Hungary in 13th century after Mongol Invasion and started to mix with Hungarians and most of them assimilated under Hungarian identity. (for more info on this, check the end of Arpad dynasty and Ladislaus the fourth, half Cuman, half Hungarian king of Hungary, and yes, one of the kings of Hungarians was half Turkic) and previously from Bulgars who settled in today's Bulgaria, and before all that, on Ukrainian steppes from Ön Bulgars or as they call themselves Ön Oghurlar (that's where Europeans named them as Hungarian, Önoghuria, Ten Oghurs which were Hungarians' neighbours back then). That's why some Turkic words in Hungarian language have words with different sides of Rhotacism effect. The Rhotacism effects is a language differentiation which turns an exact sound between -r and -z into either -r or -z. For example, a group of people called Oghurs split in two in 5th century AD. Some stood in near Caspian Sea and some decided to migrate firstly to Volga region, then they split in two becoming Volga Bulgars and Danube Bulgars. The Oghurs' language who stood near Caspian Sea got under some language differentations like Rhotacism and by the end of 7th century AD, they were calling themselves OghuZ which were the ancestors of today's Azerbaijani people, Turkish people, Gagauz people and Turkmen people. Danube Bulgars assimilated under great Slavic migrations and became today's Bulgarians and Volga Bulgars split in two, some migrated to more north-west becoming Chuvash people today, and the second half got mixed with Central Asian Turks who also had the same rhotacism changes like Oghuzes so their language created a brand new branch: Kipchacks like Cumans or Kazakh. So this is what all this shows us: Kek can either come from Bulgars or Cumans since there is no r sound in it. It's Gök in Turkey Turkish with literally same meaning: Blue or sky. Tenger which exists in today's Turkey Turkish as Deniz: As you can see, the r sound changed to z. It has even one of the most important rules of Turkic languages which is called Palatal Harmony. As you can see palatal vowels like e, i, ö, ü only goes with other palatals like e letters in "tenger" and e and i letters in "Deniz". It's the same word as Genghis btw, like in Genghis Khan, and it means ocean or sea. The lost g sound between Tenger and Deniz is actually called nasal n letter. We got it until something like 17th century so it was Dengiz back then. When we change the z sound back to it's old form and turn the D into T because in time it got softened somehow, it becames the same: Tenger. Surprise. There is gesztenye. It's kestane in Turkey Turkish with same pronunciation and meaning: Chestnut. Cuman origin. No changes. Szakal is Sakal which means beard. Cuman origin. No changes. If anyone asks why z in oroszlán did not change: It's Mongolic, not Turkic. But we got it too in Turkey Turkish as Aslan. You can pronounce it like deleting the second o. And means lion of course. Ökör: We got another Bulgar origin word here, it's Öküz in Turkey Turkish. As you can see, there is rhotacism. Onoghur origin. For nyar, delete the letter n and turn r to z: It's yaz in Turkey Turkish. Onoghur origin. Our people met and lived together at least 3 times in history for some centuries, sadly neither Hungarians nor Turks were aware of this until modern ages. As it gives me goosebumps, I wanted to share with you the royal marks of Dulo Clan of Oghurs who settled in today's Ukraine who met with Hungarians there and Kayi Clan of Oghuzes who established Ottoman Empire and invaded Hungary in 16th century. There is at least 9 centuries between them. Dulo: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulo#/media/File:Khans_Dulo_of_Bulgaria.jpg Kayi: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay%C4%B1_(tribe)#/media/File:Kayi.svg Happy to share!
Oh I forgot to mention. It's On (ten) Oghurs because 3 rebel Oghur tribes of Khazars joint forces with seven Hungarian clans making it ten. Quick maths.
Very good conversation, guys. One small correction: baby means "baba" in Hungarian, not "bobo." Other than that, I learned a lot. As a Hungarian, it was good to watch this video. Thanks a lot.
If you dig deeper all the people around the World has more or less intercrossing vocabulary. And all the people near the Eurasian steppe has a bit common vocabulary. It's quite natural.
All Turks more or less can understand each other just with todays Türkiya it is more difficult and it gets more difficult everyday because young people get dummier in all places!
I think hungarians are hunnic, turkic originated people who have integrated with germanic, slavic, uralic people in europe during hunnic migrations. Moreover, in order to inform, all uralic, altaic, sinitic people have 20-50k years old genetics partly related to southeast asia before we have mixed with old west asians, europeans and indians later in history. Even Arpad dynasty has partial east eurasian ancestry.
In Turkish, city dwellers would say "anne", villagers would say "ana". Also, children may call their mothers "anne" but when a third person referring, they may say "ana" despite when they may call their mother directly "anne". In short, Turks of Turkiye use both anne and ana.
The Hungarian word árpa was borrowed from a Turkic language before the times of the Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin (at the turn of the 9th and 10th centuries), from Proto-Turkic *arpa.[5][6][4] The Hungarians cohabited for centuries with Turkic people, which accounts for over 10% word roots in modern Hungarian being Turkic. In Hungarian, most pastoral terms are Turkic in origin, and agricultural terms are 50% r-Turkic. Many Hungarian names, and also animal and plant names,[7] are of Turkic origin, and the majority of tribe names were of Turkic origin.[8]Turkic is, along with Uralic, German and Slavic, one of the four languages that have the greatest percentage of word roots in the Hungarian language. However, the Magyars are not a Turkic people, though the Turks made a genetic and linguistic contribution.[9][10]
Actually western Turkish Kaganate was an ally of the Byzantinuum, starting 600 ce. They collaborated with them in their campaigns against Persia, and they had commercial ties with them over Black Sea. Bulgarians and Hungarians are probably evidence of that relationship. I came to know about this through a German historian investigating early Islamic history from Byzantinium sources. I was wondering why they did not accept Christianity. Indeed some did. However as Islam was emerging, from nomadic sources, it must have appealed to them more. The German historian was focused on the Caucasian connection, but there were also Turkish troops in Byzantinuum army, and they switched side at the battle of Menzikert in 1071. Most likely they were Hungarians. Probably they knew whom they were fighting. Even after that, a lot of Turks were employed by the Byzantinuum.
Balnur We have to maintenance Turks is not only in turkiye Kazakh krygz uzbek turkmen is turk too So "turkic" is improvised word of STALIN for crush the turkish society integrety Ok. If you put a heart this comment I will be happy
There are hundreds of Turkic languages close to each other in the world. Kazakh, Uzbeks, Azerbaijan, Kyrgyz, Turkmen, some Russian states like Yakutia-Chuvash, Uigur, Hungary... If you listen them closely as a Turkish then you understand them almost %60- upto %80.
I dont know how the other turkic's sounds but when I first heard mongolian I thought it was a drunken szekler trying to speak. Couldnt understand one word but it sounded inteligent, opposite to the usual gibberish from foreign languages!🤣
It is impossible for two Asian parents to have an white baby(Anatolians)!😅😅 The Mongols= East Asians, Southeast asian, Altaic people (Turkic, Mongolic, and Tungusic speaking people), American Indians/Native Americans East Asians and Native Americans are Sinodont They carry the EDAR gene, found in ancient and modern East Asians, East Siberians and Native Americans but not common in African or European populations The EDAR gene causes the Sinodont tooth pattern, and also affects hair texture,jaw morphology,and perhaps the nutritional profile of breast milk A very small minority of people in Turkey carry genetic markers that are also found in Mongolia, Korean,Janpanese . Turkic peoples never became a majority in Anatolia, even up to the present day. The Turks of today are the historic Anatolians who have simply taken on a Turkish identity as they had previously taken on a Greek identity.
your conquerors lived with Turkic people. Modern Hungarians are not descending from the 10th century invaders; they are just pre-existing european populations, magyarized.
@@ionbrad6753 I don't know where did you this strange, funny story heard , but the scientific (historic, linguistic, ethnography, etc...) facts aren't speaking about this.
Proto-Turkic and Mongols genetically are the same origin , and so are the same for the Koreans, Manchus..... Their ancestry was essentially derived from the Ancient Northeast Asians(Slab Grave culture/1300-300 BC) Proto Turkic peoples may have originally been N1a, inhabiting modern Manchuria, but then Integrated into the Xiongnu(mostly Q1) The Hg N lineages beginning in southern China about 21 kya, and expanding into northern China(Mongolia and Manchuria)12-18 kya According to the results published by Nature (journal), Turkic, Mongolic, Koreanic, Japonic and Tungusic languages can be traced back to the first farmers moving across Northeast Asia from the Early Neolithic onwards, where they split from a common ancestor around the Liaodong Gulf, near Korea, 9000 years ago. The Liao River Civilization(遼河文明) Xiaohexi culture 小河西文化 (9,000-8,500 BP) Xinglongwa culture 興隆窪文化 (8,200-7,400 BP): major Y-DNA N Zhaobaogou culture 趙宝溝文化 (7,500-6,500 BP): major Y-DNA N Hongshan culture 紅山文化 (6,500-5,000 BP)·: major Y-DNA N O2 C2 About 5,000-6,000 years ago,Trans-Eurasian Language Separation(Japanese, Korean, Tungusic, Mongolic and Turkic): 1,Most of them who remained in the east became Mongolian,Tungusic people 2,O2a+C2+N1a enter the Korean peninsula and Japan The proto-Koreans started to migrate into the southern Korean Peninsula from Manchuria and northern Korea, where they started to replace and assimilate the previous Japonic-speaking rice-agriculturalists, which arrived earlier in the peninsula. 3,About 4000 years ago, the agricultural ancestors of the Turkic peoples probably migrated westwards into Mongolia and Southern Siberia,form Slab-grave culture N1a has been found with greatest frequency among Siberian Turks(The Tuvans,Dolgans,The Yakuts,Yukaghir.....) 4,They expanded west from Mongolia or Manchuria. then formed western empires like the Khazar, Kangar, Kara-Khanid, Seljuq, Timurid, gradually assimilating Western Asian genes(R1az93+J2+G) According to a 2016 study, Yeniseian people and their language originated likely somewhere near the Altai Mountains or near Lake Baikal. (The Yeniseians are closely related to other Siberians, East Asians and Indigenous peoples of the Americas. They belong mostly exclusive to yDNA haplogroup Q1) 94% of Kets have Y DNA Q, they are extremely homogenous. Alexander Vovin argues that at least parts of the Xiongnu, possibly its core or ruling class, spoke a Yeniseian language.Positing a higher degree of similarity of Xiongnu to Yeniseian as compared to Turkic the Yeniseian languages are thought to have contributed many ubiquitous loanwords to Turkic and Mongolic vocabulary, such as Khan, Khagan, Tarqan, and the word for "god" and "sky", Tengri. This conclusion has primarily been drawn from the analysis of preserved Xiongnu texts in the form of Chinese characters. It has been further suggested that the Yeniseian-speaking Xiongnu elite underwent a language shift to Turkic while migrating westward or The Turkic people probably replaced Yeniseian-speaker NCO replaces Q1 (Yenisei speakers) → rapidly expands → absorbs and assimilates Rz93(Andronovo culture and the Tagar culture)+R1b(3000 BC: Initial eastward migration initiating the Afanasievo culture, possibly Proto-Tocharian) J2 originated in West Asia with G. J2 was absorbed by the R1a-Z93 tribes in the Early Bronze Age. As a minor lineage within the R1a-Z93 dominant populations, it would have expanded from the Volga-Ural region to Central and South Asia with the Indo-Aryan invasions: 1,Indo-Iranians of the Andronovo migrate out of their culture and conquer the BMAC region in Central Asia and the Indus Valley Civilization in South Asia around 1800 to 1500 BC. As a result of the mixing of these two peoples, the Iranian and Indo-Aryan cultures are born.(R1a+J2G) 2,The Indo-Aryans establish the Vedic culture around 1500 BC to 500 BC on the Indian subcontinent. The Iranians move westward ca. 1000 BC to 800 BC and conquer many parts of the plateau, establishing Iranian settlements wherever they can. 3,Around 700 BC we see the Iranians integrated on the plateau and two major Iranian peoples (Medes and Persians) begin to establish semi-independent kingdoms close to major West Asian cultures such as Assyria and Elam. Central Asia was largely populated by Indo-Iranian speakers, who actually still live in Afghanistan and Tajikistan. The migration of Turkic tribes from Inner Asia caused a language shift among the Iranian peoples of the area.
A magyar nyelvben számtalan szláv és német eredetű szó is van (talán több is, mint türk eredetű), de mégsem hirdeti senki fennen, hogy a szláv vagy a germán népek „családjába” tartoznánk.
People get very overexcited about connections between Hungarian and turkic but truth is the cognate list is very short. Also bear in mind Hungary was ruled by ottomans for a lonh time and undoubtedly Turkish influenced the language. But in essence Hungarian is not very closely related to turkic.
arpad'ın dna testi ve haplogrubu buuum diye suratında patladı hahahaah. arkadaşın dediği gibi karışık bir coğrafyada türkler ile akraba hatta türk soylu insanlar yaşıyor.
@@___spiritofadventure___ Nyelv, kultúra és állampolgárság nem kapcsolódik a fenotípushoz. A DNS tesztek feltárják a magyar népességben a török hozzájárulást
We are too european ourselves we lost more than half population with the mongol horde in 1200 we invited many to live in our lands and the more than 200 wars...
The Hungarian language belongs to the Uralic language family. Modern Hungarians are however genetically rather distant from their closest linguistic relatives (Mansi and Khanty), and despite the eastern root of the Hungarian language, the Hungarians are today mostly similar to the neighbouring non-Uralic, Indo-European peoples……. Actually Hungarians and Romanians are ones of the most similar populations as genetics. Khanty,Mansi : 57%N1a2b-P43 ,7.1%N1a1-Tat 21%Q1a3,14%R1a,0.9%R1b Khanty:76.6%N1a (N1a1-Tat N1a2b-P43 - 38,3 %.), R1b (19,1 %) , R1a (4,3 %) However,there is one linguistic theory that postulates that the Finno-Ugric languages should be together in a larger family of Uralic-Altaic languages. The Hg N lineages beginning in southern China about 21 kya, and expanding into northern China 12-18 kya, reaching further north to Siberia about 12-14 kya, and followed by a population expansion and westward migration into Central Asia and East/North Europe around 8.0-10.0 kya. Siberia's N formed the Ugric language(N1a2b (P43),N1a2b1-B478/VL64) Northeast Asia's N formed the trans-Eurasian language(about 9000 years ago)(N1a1-Tat) A small portion up to 6% of the haplogroup N can still be found among the Hungarians
Hungary - 50% slavic DNA, 30% German DNA, the other 20 % is mixed with Uralic, Dinaric, Baltic, Celtic etc.Hungarian and Austrian DNA map is like copy of each others….
@@RokokoisBased The Hungarian language belongs to the Uralic language family(Magyars)-N1a-L1034 Modern Hungarians are mostly close to Indo-European speakers,not Uralic Pan-Turkic are pseudoscientific theories,Anatolians originated in the ancient Middle East,not Mongolia
Kazakhs have 70%-80% East-Eurasian ancestry, don't mislead others,ok! C2b1a2a M77 Typical of Northern Tungusic peoples, Kazakhs, Mongolians, Yukaghirs, Nivkhs, Paleosiberian C2b1a3a M401 Kazakhs (especially tribes of the Senior Jüz and the Kereys), Hazaras,Dungans.. According to a large-scale Kazakhstan study published in 2017. 1294 Kazakh males belong to Y-DNA haplogroups: C2 (50.85%), O2 (10.82%), N (5.33%), Q (3.17%), D (0.46%) Your Kazakh ancestors originated 50,000 years ago in Southeast Asia (CDNOP) They entered East Asia 30,000 years ago They separated from the China 20,000 years ago and entered Central Asia and Siberia Trans-Eurasian languages (Japanese, Korean, Turkic, Mongolian...) formed 10,000 years ago in Northeast Asia The ANEA/The Northern East Asian can be differentiated into broadly four sub-groups, namely the “Ancient Northeast Asians“ (ANA), “Neo-Siberians", "West Liao River farmers", and "Yellow River farmers". Amur ancestry (C2)- Associated with populations in the Amur River region, Mongolia, and Siberia, as well as parts of Central Asia. Modern Northeast Asians(Tungus, Mongols)consist mostly of the "Amur ancestry" which expanded massively with millet cultivation. Yellow River ancestry (O2a)- Associated with populations in the Yellow River region and common among Sino-Tibetan-speakers. Liao River ancestry (N1a).. The genetic connection between Turkic and Mongolic peoples (and the historical Xiongnus) is a shared root from the Northeast Asian genepool, specifically Baikal hunter-gatherers(Ydna Q+R1a), Amur hunter-gatherers(Ydna C2) and Liao river farmers(Ydna N1a). Tianyuan ancestry (P/QR)- Ancestry on the ESEA lineage associated with an Upper Paleolithic individual dating to 40,000 years ago in northern China. Indigenous peoples of the Americas formed from Ancient North Eurasians and from an early East Asian branch, giving rise to "Ancestral Beringians", which gave rise to both "Paleosiberians" and contemporary Native Americans.(Q+C2)
A kazahokat szeretem. Sokat dolgoztam velük, sokat köszönhetek nekik!
There is definitely a huge family in the east brother. We love our Macar brothers and sisters.
Your username has "kandur" in it. Guess what "kandúr" means in Hungarian. Male cat.
We Hungarians know it with historical facts and our blood!!🙏🌹🔥
However, it is very important that we are not represented by Viktor Orbán: he is not Hungarian
@@gabor6259Hakan is name and Dursun is surname
@@Katran.7 Thanks for the info.
gerçekten çok güzel bir video devam et!
Tüm Macar ve Türk halklarına selamlar!!!
Kazakh people looks so beautiful
Başkurtlardan Türk dünyasına, мacarlara selamlar! Башғариянан Һунғарияға күп сәләм!
Thank you so much! Good job!
In Turkish, both anne and ana means mother. Anne is slightly more popular but ana is still common too
It is impossible for two Asian parents to have an white baby(Anatolians)!😅😅
The Mongols= East Asians, Southeast asian, Altaic people (Turkic, Mongolic, and Tungusic speaking people), American Indians/Native Americans
East Asians and Native Americans are Sinodont
They carry the EDAR gene, found in ancient and modern East Asians, East Siberians and Native Americans but not common in African or European populations
The EDAR gene causes the Sinodont tooth pattern, and also affects hair texture,jaw morphology,and perhaps the nutritional profile of breast milk
A very small minority of people in Turkey carry genetic markers that are also found in Mongolia, Korean,Janpanese .
Turkic peoples never became a majority in Anatolia, even up to the present day. The Turks of today are the historic Anatolians who have simply taken on a Turkish identity as they had previously taken on a Greek identity.
@@夜行者-s2x+500 Social point earned
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You must know the concept of nation-state. There is no belief in Turkey that we are all pure Turkic.
You can think of it like Hungary. This is very normal for Europe and the Middle East. Even Balkans and Levantine are mixed. Turks mixed with many peoples for a long time, neither pure Greek nor pure Turkic. It would be more accurate to say Persian. Anatolian Turks have a lot of similarities with Iran, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan. There is already a nationalist Greek class that has preserved its own language. The population that we can call Greek is very small anyway, most of them immigrated to Greece. Albanians, Bulgarian and Bosnians outnumber Greeks. The Balkans and Iran are warrior communities that have preserved their language. If Turks were a minority, it would be impossible for Oghuz Turkish to be widespread in such a large region.
The peoples who were the majority in Anatolia were Oghuz Turks, Kurds, Armenians and Greeks, but today there are almost no Armenians and Greeks. Today, Balkan Turks, Turkmens from neighboring countries, other Muslim Balkan peoples and Caucasian Muslims are included in the population.
Ana is spesifically used when swearing
It’s “Anya” in Hungarian.
Omg, this is so fun! Kazakhs and Hungarians are brothers, we are all Turkic people! I get an awesome feeling in my tummy when i see my brothers and sisters find each other and find out that they are brothers and sisters of each other 🥰🥰🥰. People put borders between us so we forget about each other, but now time has caught up to it and now we Turkic people are finding each other and understanding each other way better because of that. I must admit that Hungary finding out of its Turkic past makes me very very happy. And man, i want to hug you both so much, like i want to squeeze you both 😂😂😂. My love to you all! ❤️❤️❤️
It is impossible for two Asian parents to have an white baby(Anatolians)!😅😅
The Mongols= East Asians, Southeast asian, Altaic people (Turkic, Mongolic, and Tungusic speaking people), American Indians/Native Americans
East Asians and Native Americans are Sinodont
They carry the EDAR gene, found in ancient and modern East Asians, East Siberians and Native Americans but not common in African or European populations
The EDAR gene causes the Sinodont tooth pattern, and also affects hair texture,jaw morphology,and perhaps the nutritional profile of breast milk
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Wtf did you just wrote?
🎉🎉🎉
The conquest proper of Hungary is dated at the end of the ninth century, in 896, when the seven Hungarian tribes (Nyék, Megyer, Kirt Gyarmat, Jenó, Tarján, Kér, and Keszi) and the three Kabar tribes, led by Prince Árpád, gradually filled up the Carpathian basin, except for the zones of beechwood and the coniferous forests. The "conquering Hun garians" are equivalent to the upper circle of the people (with rich furniture); some of them spoke two languages: Onogur-Turk and Ugrian-Hungarian.
Very interesting summary, thanks for this
Hungarian is a Uralic language with heavy Turkic influence (mainly from Chuvash, Bulgar, etc.); but their closest relatives are still Ugric languages (Khanty, Mansi) in western Siberia, of the Finno-Ugric branch (Uralic language family). Most basic words relating to kinship, everyday items etc. are mainly still Uralic / Finno-Ugric; words related to animal husbandry, herding are more Turkic; and of course there are also other loanwords from Slavic, Germanic etc.
Perfectly summarised. Modern Hungarian has a loads of foreign influence, and borrowed words. From Slavic, German, and nowadays English.
That’s actually not true. 70% of the Hungarian language has Uralic unique roots. Compared to other languages it’s quite exceptional.
Exactly!!! 👍👍👍👏👏👏
Not really. Check your sources.
@@lao-ce8982 or.....the other way around. Perhaps?
Tebrizden herkese selam❤️
well as a Turk myself I wouldn't say Hungarians are Turkic (except some minority group called Szekely which descends from Avars from what I heard but I might be wrong) but them not being Turkic is not a problem on our interactions. We consider ourselves "family" with all the nomadic tribes of Eurasian steppes be they Mongols, other Turkic folk, Finns, Hungarians etc. Our roots are similar and even though we migrated from our ancestral homelands that nomadic warrior culture is what makes us related (culturally) and it is what makes us all unique. Greetings from Türkiye :)
Turkic people and Turkish isn't same thing
The main sources of Turkish descent are Middle Eastern+Southern Europe,not Siberia or Central asia
The root of East Asians, such as Chinese, Koreans, or Japanese, but also Northeast Asians, Siberians as well as Southeast Asians, Pacific Islanders and Native Americans, can be traced back to the “Ancestral East Asians” (also known as Basal-East Asians or basal East-Eurasians “bEE”).
The ANEA/The Northern East Asian can be differentiated into broadly four sub-groups, namely the “Ancient Northeast Asians“ (ANA), “Neo-Siberians", "West Liao River farmers", and "Yellow River farmers".
Turkic, Mongolian, Tungusic, Korean, Japanese, Native American,they share the same ancestor - Ancient Northeast Asians, ANA and the Yellow River farmers (Han Chinese) are derived from the same ancestor - ancient North-East Asians
This is the reason why they look alike
@@夜行者-s2xlmao all you are writing everywhere is that Anatolian Turks have basically no connection to central Asia
@@夜行者-s2xLook at my dna results then, what illustrative dna says I am not greek but I am a mix of turkic and anatolian.
@@TurquazCannabiz “Modern Turkish came from Central Asia” theories, which mainly serves the Turkish political propaganda,it's false propaganda😂😂
Early Turkic peoples are primarily associated with “Ancient Northeast Asians” (ANA), and Chinese (and other Sino-Tibetans) are associated with the Yellow River farmers.They are all descended from Ancient-North-East Asians(ANEA)
Today's people of Central Asia are a mix of Iranic(Saka, Scythians, Sogdians..)and Turkic peoples (Northeast Asian)
First, These Turks assimilated some Saka, Scythians, Sogdians.....Shaped the Eurasian race
The Turkic Yakuts have about 90% Northeast Asian DNA.
Kazakhs and Kygryz having on average 70-80% East Asian ancestry, and Uzbeks ~35-60% East Asian ancestry. Turkmens are more diverse and can range from as little as 10% to up to 45% East Asian ancestry. The Hazara of Afghanistan similarly range from 55-65% East Asian ancestry.
Then,these Turkified Indo-Iranian speakers entered Anatolia, killed and assimilated the Byzantines ( Anatonians,Armenians, Greeks.....)
Most modern Anatolian Turks have only about 5%-10% Northeast Asian DNA in average
Greeks, Egyptians, Arabs...they have a negative view of Turkey and/or Turks with special dislike for the Ottoman Empire.
Therefore, the Anatolians turned to Central Asia or Far East
@@postachamdi6286 Do modern Anatolians have Northeast Asian genes?yes, but rarely😂
Even more important than language is the fact that we Hungarians consider Asian peoples to be distant relatives due to our Asian genes, which is why we do not keep such a distance as Westerners.
Exactly, this is how I felt whenever I stayed in Asia. I felt there is a wall between western cultures and Asia but not between ours and Asian cultures. This is what I tried to emphasize a bit in this video ;)
Hi Balnur, your vlog is really enjoyable, you were lucky for having found the excellent conversation partner. The picture he painted differs somewhat from my everyday experiences, but this is a question of distance we are looking at. It is interesting and instructive to see the common traces back in history. Concerning the eating of horse meat it is a kind of cannibalism for me and in the general world view of many around.
There is even a tribe in Kazakhstan called „madjar“…in general Hungarians with partly nomadic origin do have in average 2-4% autosomal eastern asian(asiatic) dna…it is to less to effect the phenotype but it is still there. Greetings brothers.
By the way in Türkiye we use the words anne and ana for mother, anne is more modern and Istanbul dialect but when you go deeper in Anatolia or villages they use to say ana.
Merhaba kardeşim, çok teşekkürler. Thank you for sharing this info 😊🇹🇷
I would be interested if you can point at any resource on the internet about what the language sounds like that the tribe speaks.
We say “Kazan” in Turkish as well but there is also type of kazan mostly we use for storing yoghurt, milk etc. which calls “Bakraç”. Not sure if the word passed to Hungarian during the Ottoman era or it was a common word from old connections but it is interesting to see lots of similarities.
The word "kazán" exists in Hungarian but it means the central heating unit in a house. 😀
@@gabor6259 We call to central heating unit “Kazan” as well. 😁
@@MustafaBeniz-sx2iq Wow, that's awesome!
There are much more if you do a liinguistic analyze. For example ól in Hungarian and ауыл in Kazakh or ağıl in Turkish have the same root. The Turkish form is the same as in Old Turkic where it did describe the camp and/or the place where the animals are. In Kazakh this meaning of camp shifted to village, whereas in Turkish and Hungarian it shifted to the place where the animals live. In case of Hungarian pork barn and in case of Turkish chicken barn. An other example is Kolbasa, which is only in use in Dialects in Turkey, but the common term in Hungarian and Kazakh (also russian) for sausage. Builded from the turkic words kol - arm and basa from bas- -- to press, push, put, refering to the originally production technique. Arslan (turkish), oroszlan (hungarian), arystan (kazakh) are actually persian loanwords. I just remember, there is also Biczka (correct form?) in Hungarian, Bıçak in Turkish and бышкак (not sure if it is totally correct, but should be more or less like that) in Kazakh, which means knife, builded from old turkic biç- -- to cut and the suffix for repeating actions -gak, so "something, which cuts all the time or something, which cuts again and again". Киши in kazakh and kiczi in hungarian are cognates to küçük in Turkish, which comes from old turkic kiçig. The g sounds at the end of the words dropped in all turkic languages except usbek and uyghur. In Turkish they builded the form kiçiçük with the diminutive -çük. The ü sound caused that the i's got assimilated to ü as well. Then a syllable was skipped to make it easier to pronounce, so we get the nowadays form. In Kazakh it's with a sh sound because kazakh had several sound shifts since old turkic from ch to sh and from sh to s, which can also be observed in the example of knife.
Those Hungarian words are _bicska_ (small knife) and _kicsi_ (small). The _cs_ makes a ch sound.
It's interesting that you mention that "bas" means to push, to press. In Hungarian we have a related word, it's a cussword, _baszik_ which means to f*ck, to have sex. Another related word is _boszorkány_ which means witch.
@@gabor6259 thats interesting in turkish to f*ck is _sik(iş)_ the hungarian ba _"szik"_ sounds similar , bas is tricky since it can also become baş (bash) which means head but it can also used as slang.
All Turkich tribes are huge one united family. From East Turkistan steppes to Hungary to Gagauzia. Tüm Türk Boyları Birdir! Oğuz Ata'ya Selam Olsun!
I wish you interviewed me because I would be able to explain the Hungarian language.
I am a Linguistics student..so I want to explain
firstly.. we are Uralic... and were the original inhabitants of the Ural mountains ..afterwards Turkic tribes came to the Urals and intermixed with us.
Yes we are related to Finn peoples (all of them... Komi,Karelian,Sami ,Veps, Mordvin and so on) But ~ they Left the Ural Mountains Earlier then the Magyars did and went into North europe and became very Scandinavianized.
(this is why some Hungarians don't like to be associated with them because they think = scandinavian)
Also this is a worldwide Misunderstanding about the Uralics !
apparently most foreigners + some Hungarians think that Uralic = "scandinavian"
this is wrong ... Uralic is their own group! and originally Asian.
th-cam.com/video/7pZwgsoUlxU/w-d-xo.html
here is a Hungarian documentary about the Mansi people (closest relatives to Magyar people)
watch 05:00 the word for eye stayed the exact same in both languages (cem) eye + em possessive "my" therefore cemem = my eye(s) and in Hungarian szemem (pronunciation same)
the 3rd closest language to Hungarian is Udmurt (udmurtia is next to Chuvashia and Bashkortostan)
I study Udmurt and it is a very important Language because ..just like Hungarian it has been Turkified.
Udmurt also has a variation of 'Var'
in Hungarian van .. in Udmurt Vanj
ecample here
english = I have two cats.
Chuvash = manăn ikkӗ kuşak pur.
Udmurt = minim kuik koçizes vanj.
Hungarian = nekem két macska van.
! however you will not find such an influence of Turkic in other Uralic languages. expecially all the Finn branch languages ..because they left the Urals before the arrivals of the Turkic tribes
th-cam.com/video/viJ74h8-4cU/w-d-xo.html
as shown here ✌watch between 06:00 - 09:00
we Hungarians do not actually call ourselves Turks ...if we want to be accurate we say the term Turkified-Uralic
because it perfectly explains what Hungarian (and Udmurt) is.
th-cam.com/video/16MqL9hGo3o/w-d-xo.html
also here is the Mansi traditional instrument
I am trying to spread awareness about this because the world ..doesn't seem to understand who and what the Uralics are.
Thank your for your clarification, I’d love to interview you. Can you direct me on instagram please, @balnurbaltabayeva
english = I have two cats.
Turkish Benim iki kedim var
Chuvash = manăn ikkӗ kuşak pur.
Udmurt = minim kuik koçizes vanj.
Hungarian = nekem két macska van.
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Also saying to the guys face that he looks like a Tatar... I don't know, that seemed rude to me, maybe it's just me.
Our cultures are very different
@@nuckingfuts4721 If she said it in a monotone way it would be rude but she was very excited about it so it does not seem rude
I believe that the Uralic languages themselves are beautiful, especially Finnish with its unusual melodicity. Why do you need to look up to the Turks?
Very nice. Watching you from Congo, central Africa
A very nice video; the feeling of Turkic communities being a big family is very nice. Turks have considered those who speak their own language as Turks throughout history, so DNA doesn't matter. What matters is feeling like you are part of this big family. This is not racism, but a feeling that comes from sharing a common past, from sharing common roots.
Please come to Kurultaj this summer both of you, I´m participating with our group of horse archers :D
It is very good to see you conversing about our cultural similarities and you seem to be good people!
The Hungarian language is the most important source for reconstructing the West Old Turkic language spoken west of the Ural in the 5th-12th centuries. The study by Arpad Berta and Andras Rona-Tas deals with the etymology of about 500 Hungarian words which are or may be of Old Turkic, in some cases of Middle Turkic origin. The Hungarian-Turkic contacts began in the 5th century and lasted a long period. The earliest loanwords were copied from a Western Old Turkic idiom; the latest loanwords were borrowed from the language of the Cumans who settled down in Hungary in the first half of 13th century. The authors excluded the Ottoman words from the corpus. In all cases the authors give the etymology of the Turkic word, the reconstructed copied form, the form as adapted by the Hungarian language and the history of the word. The detailed introduction focuses on the former research, the historical setting and the technical framework. In the concluding chapters the authors reconstruct the Ancient Hungarian language at the time of the Turkic-Hungarian contacts and outline the structure of the West Old Turkic language. A bibliography and several indices help the reader to use the book.
West Old Turkic: Turkic Loanwords in Hungarian, László Károly András Róna-Tas, Árpád Berta, László Károly
Balnur ThanksMuch!
as a hungarian who lives in the Alföld region wich is part of the eurasian steppe we have horsemeat here horsemeat sousage is while not eaten everyday its common enough to find
pot =kazan=bakraç (smaller than kazan) in Turkish we use mostly tencere
no,ur not alone or isolated in europe...were related...i feel more close to hungarians than my neighboring countries or even turkic nations... its all about the step,eurasia and asia...the food is great too!
we have the same words too from turkey
ii went to uzbekistan and hungary❤
It was a very interesting and kind video. Visit Budapest sometime, I'm sure that you will find it very exciting and inspire. Btw... there is a surname in Hungary the "Kozák", literally means kazakh or kazar man. Greetings from Budapest! ;-)
Спасибо за видео
3:12 They don't believe it. They know it. And linguistic proximity is not the same as cultural proximity.
8:37 The word "kazán" exists in Hungarian but it means the central heating unit in a house. So it's definitely a related word.
18:08 It's "baba", not "bobo".
Anyway this was very interesting. :)
Selam from Azerbaijan
Are you guys gonna try to speak one of you Kazah one of you hungarian? I'm intrested you would understand each other.
Bakrac bizde de var kucuk oluyor.Buyuk olani kazan
Oraszlan, in Turkish Arslan.
In Mongolian is also Arslan
in Tatar is "aryslan" as well
А как переводится это слово? Что обозначает?
@@svetlanaphilipp4868Lion
Also close:
Kiraly - Kiral
Türlül - Turgul
The Proto-Ugric word *lox is reconstructed from Hungarian ló 🇭🇺 Mansi lū, and Khanty law, all meaning "horse".
The word is neither of Uralic nor Indo-European origin, nor does it resemble any of the words for "horse" in known Eurasian language families.
ló horse (plural lovak) compare Mansi лув (luw) and Khanty лог (log).
May be a borrowing from the language of the Botai culture. 🇰🇿
The Botai culture was an archaeological culture of prehistoric northern Central Asia, which existed between **3700 BC and 3100 BC**.
The Uralic languages haven't been separated yet 6,000 years ago. So if the word for horse had come from the Botai, it would be in all Uralic languages.
Kurultaj is every two years so it will be next year August i think.
With my turkish A2 level i understand all words from kakzak and hungarian but the last Kok - Kek (blue) is so much different in tukrish (mavi). Please some turkish speaker can told my etymology and roots of the word ?
Kök - kek - gök came from gökturks origin word
Wiki page "Replacement of loanwords in Turkish"
Explains numerous synonyms in Turkish.
kok kek kök gök same means blue and sky same in turkish mavi persian my grandmother in anatolia always like al ak kara kök kızıl... yörük we are
İmrendin sizlere...
BOGRAC is BAKRAC inTurkish
In Europe the word of mother starts with letter "m" in some languages and start with letter "a" in some languages (even Basque). When we look the structure of sentences we see that there is a correlation. Turkic and Uralic languages are Agglutinative and SOV.
Love from Türkiye ❤
I could never tell Atilla isnt a Turkiye Turk by his accent in English. His accent is a hundred percent how we sound when we speak English (if we didnt practice hard for a native-like accent beforehand of course)
100%. I am Hungarian, but have a Turkish work mate...so apart of alma, balta, bicska, bogrács etc, we have to speak English to understandd each other, and he has the same accent as this hungarian Attila.
Most of the Hungarians I've spoken have a misunderstanding on how Turkic words got into their language. They were not loaned from Ottomans, they were loaned from Kipchaks like Kumans who settled in Hungary in 13th century after Mongol Invasion and started to mix with Hungarians and most of them assimilated under Hungarian identity. (for more info on this, check the end of Arpad dynasty and Ladislaus the fourth, half Cuman, half Hungarian king of Hungary, and yes, one of the kings of Hungarians was half Turkic) and previously from Bulgars who settled in today's Bulgaria, and before all that, on Ukrainian steppes from Ön Bulgars or as they call themselves Ön Oghurlar (that's where Europeans named them as Hungarian, Önoghuria, Ten Oghurs which were Hungarians' neighbours back then).
That's why some Turkic words in Hungarian language have words with different sides of Rhotacism effect. The Rhotacism effects is a language differentiation which turns an exact sound between -r and -z into either -r or -z. For example, a group of people called Oghurs split in two in 5th century AD. Some stood in near Caspian Sea and some decided to migrate firstly to Volga region, then they split in two becoming Volga Bulgars and Danube Bulgars. The Oghurs' language who stood near Caspian Sea got under some language differentations like Rhotacism and by the end of 7th century AD, they were calling themselves OghuZ which were the ancestors of today's Azerbaijani people, Turkish people, Gagauz people and Turkmen people. Danube Bulgars assimilated under great Slavic migrations and became today's Bulgarians and Volga Bulgars split in two, some migrated to more north-west becoming Chuvash people today, and the second half got mixed with Central Asian Turks who also had the same rhotacism changes like Oghuzes so their language created a brand new branch: Kipchacks like Cumans or Kazakh.
So this is what all this shows us:
Kek can either come from Bulgars or Cumans since there is no r sound in it. It's Gök in Turkey Turkish with literally same meaning: Blue or sky.
Tenger which exists in today's Turkey Turkish as Deniz: As you can see, the r sound changed to z. It has even one of the most important rules of Turkic languages which is called Palatal Harmony. As you can see palatal vowels like e, i, ö, ü only goes with other palatals like e letters in "tenger" and e and i letters in "Deniz". It's the same word as Genghis btw, like in Genghis Khan, and it means ocean or sea. The lost g sound between Tenger and Deniz is actually called nasal n letter. We got it until something like 17th century so it was Dengiz back then. When we change the z sound back to it's old form and turn the D into T because in time it got softened somehow, it becames the same: Tenger. Surprise.
There is gesztenye. It's kestane in Turkey Turkish with same pronunciation and meaning: Chestnut. Cuman origin. No changes.
Szakal is Sakal which means beard. Cuman origin. No changes.
If anyone asks why z in oroszlán did not change: It's Mongolic, not Turkic. But we got it too in Turkey Turkish as Aslan. You can pronounce it like deleting the second o. And means lion of course.
Ökör: We got another Bulgar origin word here, it's Öküz in Turkey Turkish. As you can see, there is rhotacism. Onoghur origin.
For nyar, delete the letter n and turn r to z: It's yaz in Turkey Turkish. Onoghur origin.
Our people met and lived together at least 3 times in history for some centuries, sadly neither Hungarians nor Turks were aware of this until modern ages.
As it gives me goosebumps, I wanted to share with you the royal marks of Dulo Clan of Oghurs who settled in today's Ukraine who met with Hungarians there and Kayi Clan of Oghuzes who established Ottoman Empire and invaded Hungary in 16th century. There is at least 9 centuries between them.
Dulo: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulo#/media/File:Khans_Dulo_of_Bulgaria.jpg
Kayi: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay%C4%B1_(tribe)#/media/File:Kayi.svg
Happy to share!
Oh I forgot to mention. It's On (ten) Oghurs because 3 rebel Oghur tribes of Khazars joint forces with seven Hungarian clans making it ten. Quick maths.
We say Kazan and smaller Bakraç.
Very good conversation, guys. One small correction: baby means "baba" in Hungarian, not "bobo." Other than that, I learned a lot. As a Hungarian, it was good to watch this video. Thanks a lot.
There is a tribe in Kazakiya today called Macar though they are Turks.
Called Kazan all the way to Balkan!
I am amazed that Hungarian has any common vocabulary with Kazakhstan. 😧😧😧😧😧😧
lol that was my initial reaction too guess we learned something new =D
If you dig deeper all the people around the World has more or less intercrossing vocabulary. And all the people near the Eurasian steppe has a bit common vocabulary. It's quite natural.
All Turks more or less can understand each other just with todays Türkiya it is more difficult and it gets more difficult everyday because young people get dummier in all places!
İn Turkish we use both of them. Anne and ana.
Szeretem a magyarokat, évekig dolgoztam ott, üdv Almatiból
I think hungarians are hunnic, turkic originated people who have integrated with germanic, slavic, uralic people in europe during hunnic migrations. Moreover, in order to inform, all uralic, altaic, sinitic people have 20-50k years old genetics partly related to southeast asia before we have mixed with old west asians, europeans and indians later in history. Even Arpad dynasty has partial east eurasian ancestry.
Rahmet and teşekkürler (şükran şkr) are both Arabic.
Sağ ol
Sağol
Sagol
Sag bol
Sag bolzın.
Esen bolzın, esen kalın.
In Turkish, city dwellers would say "anne", villagers would say "ana". Also, children may call their mothers "anne" but when a third person referring, they may say "ana" despite when they may call their mother directly "anne". In short, Turks of Turkiye use both anne and ana.
The Hungarian word árpa was borrowed from a Turkic language before the times of the Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin (at the turn of the 9th and 10th centuries), from Proto-Turkic *arpa.[5][6][4] The Hungarians cohabited for centuries with Turkic people, which accounts for over 10% word roots in modern Hungarian being Turkic. In Hungarian, most pastoral terms are Turkic in origin, and agricultural terms are 50% r-Turkic. Many Hungarian names, and also animal and plant names,[7] are of Turkic origin, and the majority of tribe names were of Turkic origin.[8]Turkic is, along with Uralic, German and Slavic, one of the four languages that have the greatest percentage of word roots in the Hungarian language. However, the Magyars are not a Turkic people, though the Turks made a genetic and linguistic contribution.[9][10]
you can delete the numbers in the brackets when you are copy pasting from wikipedia.
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Actually western Turkish Kaganate was an ally of the Byzantinuum, starting 600 ce. They collaborated with them in their campaigns against Persia, and they had commercial ties with them over Black Sea. Bulgarians and Hungarians are probably evidence of that relationship. I came to know about this through a German historian investigating early Islamic history from Byzantinium sources. I was wondering why they did not accept Christianity. Indeed some did. However as Islam was emerging, from nomadic sources, it must have appealed to them more. The German historian was focused on the Caucasian connection, but there were also Turkish troops in Byzantinuum army, and they switched side at the battle of Menzikert in 1071. Most likely they were Hungarians. Probably they knew whom they were fighting. Even after that, a lot of Turks were employed by the Byzantinuum.
they were pechenek and roman romalus was expectin that.. karakalpak probably today.. they changed all yes in the war
In Spain chicken feet and pigs feet is traditional but mostly in the past..modern Spanish don’t eat so much of this
Balnur
We have to maintenance
Turks is not only in turkiye
Kazakh krygz uzbek turkmen is turk too
So "turkic" is improvised word of STALIN for crush the turkish society integrety
Ok.
If you put a heart this comment
I will be happy
yakup(Jacop) is not a Turkic name though. It is a semitic name that comes from an abrahamic prophet. Nice video though! Enjoyed the conversation.
I had no idea that Hungarian and Kazakh languages are so closely related 😮
Because they are not related. :'D
Those are just turkish loanwords in the hungarian language.
There are hundreds of Turkic languages close to each other in the world. Kazakh, Uzbeks, Azerbaijan, Kyrgyz, Turkmen, some Russian states like Yakutia-Chuvash, Uigur, Hungary... If you listen them closely as a Turkish then you understand them almost %60- upto %80.
It's funny, because there are only 8-9% of hungarian vocabulary that are turkish loanwords.
he looks tatar yes...turkic❤
Күлкіңіз әдемі екен 🤩
Just because somebody speak Hungarian, doesn't mean he/she is Hungarian.
To be Hun, must live as a Hun.
❤
Biz hala Ana diyoruz
I dont know how the other turkic's sounds but when I first heard mongolian I thought it was a drunken szekler trying to speak. Couldnt understand one word but it sounded inteligent, opposite to the usual gibberish from foreign languages!🤣
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Hi from brother in turkiye
Turan is coming.
It is impossible for two Asian parents to have an white baby(Anatolians)!😅😅
The Mongols= East Asians, Southeast asian, Altaic people (Turkic, Mongolic, and Tungusic speaking people), American Indians/Native Americans
East Asians and Native Americans are Sinodont
They carry the EDAR gene, found in ancient and modern East Asians, East Siberians and Native Americans but not common in African or European populations
The EDAR gene causes the Sinodont tooth pattern, and also affects hair texture,jaw morphology,and perhaps the nutritional profile of breast milk
A very small minority of people in Turkey carry genetic markers that are also found in Mongolia, Korean,Janpanese .
Turkic peoples never became a majority in Anatolia, even up to the present day. The Turks of today are the historic Anatolians who have simply taken on a Turkish identity as they had previously taken on a Greek identity.
Our language is uralic not turkic, we lived with turkic people thats why we have a lot of turkic vocabulary.
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your conquerors lived with Turkic people. Modern Hungarians are not descending from the 10th century invaders; they are just pre-existing european populations, magyarized.
@@ionbrad6753 Are you a romangutan?
@@radir1657 no, I am a respectful person.
@@ionbrad6753 I don't know where did you this strange, funny story heard , but the scientific (historic, linguistic, ethnography, etc...) facts aren't speaking about this.
Bro said Hungary is a small country RIGHT NOW, based
Proto-Turkic and Mongols genetically are the same origin , and so are the same for the Koreans, Manchus.....
Their ancestry was essentially derived from the Ancient Northeast Asians(Slab Grave culture/1300-300 BC)
Proto Turkic peoples may have originally been N1a, inhabiting modern Manchuria, but then Integrated into the Xiongnu(mostly Q1)
The Hg N lineages beginning in southern China about 21 kya, and expanding into northern China(Mongolia and Manchuria)12-18 kya
According to the results published by Nature (journal), Turkic, Mongolic, Koreanic, Japonic and Tungusic languages can be traced back to the first farmers moving across Northeast Asia from the Early Neolithic onwards, where they split from a common ancestor around the Liaodong Gulf, near Korea, 9000 years ago.
The Liao River Civilization(遼河文明)
Xiaohexi culture 小河西文化 (9,000-8,500 BP)
Xinglongwa culture 興隆窪文化 (8,200-7,400 BP): major Y-DNA N
Zhaobaogou culture 趙宝溝文化 (7,500-6,500 BP): major Y-DNA N
Hongshan culture 紅山文化 (6,500-5,000 BP)·: major Y-DNA N O2 C2
About 5,000-6,000 years ago,Trans-Eurasian Language Separation(Japanese, Korean, Tungusic, Mongolic and Turkic):
1,Most of them who remained in the east became Mongolian,Tungusic people
2,O2a+C2+N1a enter the Korean peninsula and Japan
The proto-Koreans started to migrate into the southern Korean Peninsula from Manchuria and northern Korea, where they started to replace and assimilate the previous Japonic-speaking rice-agriculturalists, which arrived earlier in the peninsula.
3,About 4000 years ago, the agricultural ancestors of the Turkic peoples probably migrated westwards into Mongolia and Southern Siberia,form Slab-grave culture
N1a has been found with greatest frequency among Siberian Turks(The Tuvans,Dolgans,The Yakuts,Yukaghir.....)
4,They expanded west from Mongolia or Manchuria. then formed western empires like the Khazar, Kangar, Kara-Khanid, Seljuq, Timurid, gradually assimilating Western Asian genes(R1az93+J2+G)
According to a 2016 study, Yeniseian people and their language originated likely somewhere near the Altai Mountains or near Lake Baikal. (The Yeniseians are closely related to other Siberians, East Asians and Indigenous peoples of the Americas. They belong mostly exclusive to yDNA haplogroup Q1)
94% of Kets have Y DNA Q, they are extremely homogenous.
Alexander Vovin argues that at least parts of the Xiongnu, possibly its core or ruling class, spoke a Yeniseian language.Positing a higher degree of similarity of Xiongnu to Yeniseian as compared to Turkic
the Yeniseian languages are thought to have contributed many ubiquitous loanwords to Turkic and Mongolic vocabulary, such as Khan, Khagan, Tarqan, and the word for "god" and "sky", Tengri.
This conclusion has primarily been drawn from the analysis of preserved Xiongnu texts in the form of Chinese characters.
It has been further suggested that the Yeniseian-speaking Xiongnu elite underwent a language shift to Turkic while migrating westward or
The Turkic people probably replaced Yeniseian-speaker
NCO replaces Q1 (Yenisei speakers) → rapidly expands → absorbs and assimilates Rz93(Andronovo culture and the Tagar culture)+R1b(3000 BC: Initial eastward migration initiating the Afanasievo culture, possibly Proto-Tocharian)
J2 originated in West Asia with G.
J2 was absorbed by the R1a-Z93 tribes in the Early Bronze Age. As a minor lineage within the R1a-Z93 dominant populations, it would have expanded from the Volga-Ural region to Central and South Asia with the Indo-Aryan invasions:
1,Indo-Iranians of the Andronovo migrate out of their culture and conquer the BMAC region in Central Asia and the Indus Valley Civilization in South Asia around 1800 to 1500 BC.
As a result of the mixing of these two peoples, the Iranian and Indo-Aryan cultures are born.(R1a+J2G)
2,The Indo-Aryans establish the Vedic culture around 1500 BC to 500 BC on the Indian subcontinent.
The Iranians move westward ca. 1000 BC to 800 BC and conquer many parts of the plateau, establishing Iranian settlements wherever they can.
3,Around 700 BC we see the Iranians integrated on the plateau and two major Iranian peoples (Medes and Persians) begin to establish semi-independent kingdoms close to major West Asian cultures such as Assyria and Elam.
Central Asia was largely populated by Indo-Iranian speakers, who actually still live in Afghanistan and Tajikistan.
The migration of Turkic tribes from Inner Asia caused a language shift among the Iranian peoples of the area.
Medieval age turkic were half east half west eurasian, modern mongols are still almost pure east asian.
A magyar nyelvben számtalan szláv és német eredetű szó is van (talán több is, mint türk eredetű), de mégsem hirdeti senki fennen, hogy a szláv vagy a germán népek „családjába” tartoznánk.
arra valahogy egyre kevésbé vagyunk büszkék
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Rahmet is arabic, tesekür is arabic. Turkish is Sagol (Sagbol).
Some nations want to be part of nomadic civilization. Whether some kipchaks are embarrassed with their ancestry...
Bro said árpa means wheat😮💀☠️
Really? 😲
The hungarian word for baby is " baba " not " bobo ".
Bobo is a DJ 😂
People get very overexcited about connections between Hungarian and turkic but truth is the cognate list is very short. Also bear in mind Hungary was ruled by ottomans for a lonh time and undoubtedly Turkish influenced the language. But in essence Hungarian is not very closely related to turkic.
arpad'ın dna testi ve haplogrubu buuum diye suratında patladı hahahaah. arkadaşın dediği gibi karışık bir coğrafyada türkler ile akraba hatta türk soylu insanlar yaşıyor.
@rustcohle9134 Hungarians and Turks don't look similar.
@@___spiritofadventure___ Nyelv, kultúra és állampolgárság nem kapcsolódik a fenotípushoz. A DNS tesztek feltárják a magyar népességben a török hozzájárulást
Serbia to Tokyo ✌️
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We are too european ourselves we lost more than half population with the mongol horde in 1200 we invited many to live in our lands and the more than 200 wars...
❤Turkey
The Hungarian language belongs to the Uralic language family. Modern Hungarians are however genetically rather distant from their closest linguistic relatives (Mansi and Khanty), and despite the eastern root of the Hungarian language, the Hungarians are today mostly similar to the neighbouring non-Uralic, Indo-European peoples…….
Actually Hungarians and Romanians are ones of the most similar populations as genetics.
Khanty,Mansi :
57%N1a2b-P43 ,7.1%N1a1-Tat
21%Q1a3,14%R1a,0.9%R1b
Khanty:76.6%N1a (N1a1-Tat N1a2b-P43 - 38,3 %.), R1b (19,1 %) , R1a (4,3 %)
However,there is one linguistic theory that postulates that the Finno-Ugric languages should be together in a larger family of Uralic-Altaic languages.
The Hg N lineages beginning in southern China about 21 kya, and expanding into northern China 12-18 kya, reaching further north to Siberia about 12-14 kya, and followed by a population expansion and westward migration into Central Asia and East/North Europe around 8.0-10.0 kya.
Siberia's N formed the Ugric language(N1a2b (P43),N1a2b1-B478/VL64)
Northeast Asia's N formed the trans-Eurasian language(about 9000 years ago)(N1a1-Tat)
A small portion up to 6% of the haplogroup N can still be found among the Hungarians
You are wrong
@@omerderebas9219 ???
@@夜行者-s2x Hungarians Are descendant Hunnic Empire and Hungarian Primine Minister Said We are Turk
Hungary - 50% slavic DNA, 30% German DNA, the other 20 % is mixed with Uralic, Dinaric, Baltic, Celtic etc.Hungarian and Austrian DNA map is like copy of each others….
@@RokokoisBased The Hungarian language belongs to the Uralic language family(Magyars)-N1a-L1034
Modern Hungarians are mostly close to Indo-European speakers,not Uralic
Pan-Turkic are pseudoscientific theories,Anatolians originated in the ancient Middle East,not Mongolia
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PLEASE DO ITALIAN AND CHINESE
Etele was not Àrpi. Arcadash.
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Hi Balnur, you should come to the next Kurultaj to Hungary. kurultaj.hu/2024/07/2024-evi-kurultaj-reszletes-program/
Whats a point? Totally diferent languages
No Balnur we say ANA for mother and Anne for mammy!
He looks eastern and western
Hungarian conqueror dna close the modern baskhir (turkic tribe) dna
Bobek bobo
bebek in turkiye
Kazakhs have 70%-80% East-Eurasian ancestry, don't mislead others,ok!
C2b1a2a M77 Typical of Northern Tungusic peoples, Kazakhs, Mongolians, Yukaghirs, Nivkhs, Paleosiberian
C2b1a3a M401 Kazakhs (especially tribes of the Senior Jüz and the Kereys), Hazaras,Dungans..
According to a large-scale Kazakhstan study published in 2017. 1294 Kazakh males belong to Y-DNA haplogroups:
C2 (50.85%), O2 (10.82%), N (5.33%), Q (3.17%), D (0.46%)
Your Kazakh ancestors originated 50,000 years ago in Southeast Asia (CDNOP)
They entered East Asia 30,000 years ago
They separated from the China 20,000 years ago and entered Central Asia and Siberia
Trans-Eurasian languages (Japanese, Korean, Turkic, Mongolian...) formed 10,000 years ago in Northeast Asia
The ANEA/The Northern East Asian can be differentiated into broadly four sub-groups, namely the “Ancient Northeast Asians“ (ANA), “Neo-Siberians", "West Liao River farmers", and "Yellow River farmers".
Amur ancestry (C2)- Associated with populations in the Amur River region, Mongolia, and Siberia, as well as parts of Central Asia.
Modern Northeast Asians(Tungus, Mongols)consist mostly of the "Amur ancestry" which expanded massively with millet cultivation.
Yellow River ancestry (O2a)- Associated with populations in the Yellow River region and common among Sino-Tibetan-speakers.
Liao River ancestry (N1a)..
The genetic connection between Turkic and Mongolic peoples (and the historical Xiongnus) is a shared root from the Northeast Asian genepool, specifically Baikal hunter-gatherers(Ydna Q+R1a), Amur hunter-gatherers(Ydna C2) and Liao river farmers(Ydna N1a).
Tianyuan ancestry (P/QR)- Ancestry on the ESEA lineage associated with an Upper Paleolithic individual dating to 40,000 years ago in northern China.
Indigenous peoples of the Americas formed from Ancient North Eurasians and from an early East Asian branch, giving rise to "Ancestral Beringians", which gave rise to both "Paleosiberians" and contemporary Native Americans.(Q+C2)
So they are huns in other words
Nem magyarországon nőttél fel és mégis magyar az akcentusod, nem pedig német. Tök érdekes.