How much will it cost to follow the Hornby Trak Matt in 2022
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มี.ค. 2022
- The Hornby trak Matt is a guide for beginners on how to build a layout with sidings, a third and second radius oval and then building all available in packs at good prices, well they were
So what now?
What is little Johnny wants this set up now with Hornbys recent price hikes I suggest you take a seat - บันเทิง
Clicked out of curiosity, stayed for the brilliant commentary and honesty! Fly high friend
Hobbies are expensive. I’m an angler and earlier this year I bought a new 16m pole for £3500. And that’s not even the top of the range. I’ve always thought that whatever you spend on your hobby is money well spent.
wow! back in 2008 my wife bought me the hornby flying scotsman £80 discounted at a cash and carry) set as a bit of fun, it gave me a bit of a bug to build a layout, i got myself the DCC mixed freight set (can't remember what that cost then), then all the extension packs and the station building (pack A) the track sets were between £22 and £35, with the level crossing pack though being the most expensive even then, maybe about £40 ish, all bought from local shops that sadly now no longer exist.
For Christmas in 1973 (There was a postal strike then too) I got the Hornby Flying Scotsman set. It cost £6.99 which, with inflation isn't far off £100 in today's money but that was just for an oval.
Good point.
Many of us only ever buy second hand for this reason.
And as you say, that market is getting stupid now too.
£600 is $1200Au.
That's rediculous and not a price many could afford in today's world.
It's becoming a hobby for the rich.
Jesus that’s steep and that’s on top of the magpies you have there which I find crazy. 😂
The scary part is that the more people can’t afford to buy new the more the used market goes up so we could be looking at some bleak pricing even more so than now 🥲
£347 from amazon with full packs alongside the flying Scotsmen set plus an extra pack A because I didn't know I didn't need it for some sets, thought that was a pretty good price all things considered
Edit; Scotsman*
I seem to have a disrespectful autocorrect tonight
The Hornby Trakmat is a cool layout. 6x4, fits most folks size limitations and looks really awesome with some added scenery. Trees, bushes, farm animals, people, passengers. vehicles, extra buildings, LED lighting etc.
This is why I'm turning my back on the model railway hobby, and going down the diecast model route.
Sorry to hear that John but I understand why
@@Steves00gauge I don't fully intend why companies are charging so much for models. How can they justify around £360 for a pair of power cars?
@johnUB4478 I have a video on this tomorrow and it’s a big ole ranty one. It’s reaching insane prices on basic models
@Steves00gauge I look forward to watching it Steve 🙂
Wow nice video you put out there thanks for sharing.
High Speed Hornby train set is what I’m looking to start with 👍🏻🚂
Track Packs were introduced, by Triang Railways (Rovex), in 1962 with the introduction of Super 4 track. These were carried over into the Triang Hornby (Rovex) System 6 track and Hornby Railways (still Rovex) Series7 (ROCO) track periods.
Before 1962, there were only two giant shop display layouts that could be purchased and suggested layout plans, with track parts list, in the annual catalogue. These layout suggestions remained the same for Series 2 (1952-1960) and Series 3 (1958-1965) track until 1961.
Series 0 (1950-1951) and Series 1 (1951-1952) track had no points or diamond crossings plus was mono-directional in assembly, so the only layout options were ovals, squares and rhomboids, due to the fact that the power feed was from a special straight track section.
It is possible to build a layout that interconnects Series 0, Series 1, Series 2, series 3, Super 4, System 6 and Series 7, using the relevant converter track pieces.
One of my local retailers is Oakes of Oldbury, West Midlands and they have a deal on Bachmann wagons, buy two and get the cheapest one out of the two for free. I bought two wagons, both £28 and £23 respectively and only paid £28 in total. Good deals are out there you just have to look in the right places leap at the opportunity. I agree with what is being said in this video, getting started in the hobby is impossible without forking out a pretty penny for a basic set and then adding track, building and more rolling stock.
Hi. Im from New Zealand. 4 years ago I got the Hornby FGW HST for $350 NZ Dollars new from the shop. Now the same HST is $1050 from the same shop. Want to buy the Azuma? Thats $899 NZ Dollars. Prices are crazy now!
Welcome, it’s just painful nowadays and I find myself scrolling rather than buying as I feel it’s not worth it.
@@Steves00gauge I am the same. I do more scrolling and wishing than buying these days.
Was going to start in 00 just lately, Checked out a nice Deltic on its own with sound nearly £600 Forget it I'll stick to lego trains I'm 68 I'm not foolish enough to start paying these stupid prices, Nice vlog take care.
Hey Tony. I have some lego trains, one set from when I was a child 9v freight set and also a recent one, I think they are excellent. I don’t put them on here as I assume people wouldn’t want to see them.
Beginner here. So I’ve bought the i traveler 6000 (for the track) and and all the track packs. I’ve also bought a baseboard, but it’s 60 cm longer than the layout. Do you think I could extend the layout with a few bits of straight track?
I've used ebay and other auction sites and paid less than £100 for enough track to make two full track mats
Which further more highlights how crazy new prices are and many will want new for gifts or first time purchases. People work hard and living costs are high so this will hurt.
3 years ago I bought so much new I was amazed the hobby was so attainable but now wow
I buy smarter now and second hand but if nobody buys new there will be no used and high used premiums will come sadly.
Me too, but some 2nd hand prices are just silly.
This has got to be one of the most expensive hobbies to start in. Definitely not for children at these prices. Hornby really need to give their heads a wobble.
Yup it’s crazy.
You’ll see on my videos that lots of people say “ just buy used”, the issue with that comment is that if everyone buys used abs bit new then there will
Be no used to buy and used prices are already silly. Half the time used products are more than they items were when new. I definitely don’t spend as much as I did a few years back as I just don’t have the obscene amounts of money to buy a new item weekly as I could before.
There are cheaper model railway companies than Hornby also there's more than OO and UK trains. Kato's pocket line and unitrack packs are more reasonable than Hornby. You have continental or US outline HO by Piko, Roco and Walthers's or just buy the old Lima UK HO/OO classics
Please make a video on your thoughts foe Hornby TT120 range!
It’s already on the channel 🥳 the one with 13k views. Once my set arrives in the new year I’ll do a review on that
Having retired I really liked the idea of getting into DCC model railways. I looked at the prices are but they are now SO high that I simply cannot afford to even start the hobby. I'm very sorry about this state of affairs but money is very tight now and being warm in the winter is more important! ☹
It’s hard to afford to be honest. When I started 2018 I could buy sets quite quickly. I could buy 3 sets then for the price of 1 decent one now.
I find n gauge has been easier to buy all round recently
@@Steves00gauge Funny that you mentioned N gauge. It was about 6 years ago that I picked up an N gauge Bachmann diesel loco complete with decoder for about £50 (It may have been in a sale, not sure now). The general quality, detail and engineering was so impressive that I decided to head down the modelling direction. Events occurred, as they do, and it all got put on the back burner.
I started watching some videos a few months ago and was so impressed that it fired me up to finally have a go myself. Then the truth of the pricing hit me and my enthusiasm waned. Should have started in 2018 huh?
Anyway good luck with your models Steve - nice to see someone getting so much pleasure producing quality gear - and being honest!
@@neil6477 thank you Neil
To be honest some items I want to buy just so others don’t have too 🤣
Sadly this is hard to go with prices as they are at the moment. I just can’t buy as much as I could in 2018 and even though prices are higher you can see the chinks in the armour with newer sets having that parts bin collective feel.
I’m a behind on videos at the moment but some products are so poor I feel they don’t deserve my time as they already have my money
My sons into trains and started wanting more stuff. I will have to get up the loft and get my old stuff out 😂
Haha hey Ben, this was last year abs things are a bit worse. Of course you can shop around for deals but it’s still silly money for track now. I’ve noticed the entry level is almost completely none existent now.
I will be doing a Christmas give away so keep your eyes peeled for that end of November. So you know subscribe etc haha shameless self promotion
@@Steves00gauge I can’t believe the price on this new stuff. I literally just pulled a few old boxes out of the loft but will need to clean it all. I gave loads away during the lockdown to friends with kids too 🤦♂️. I didn’t realise how much this stuff was selling for.
@Ben_Horne I just sold my Hornby Thomas and friends dart on auction starting £50 and it went for £300
I couldn’t believe it. Buying some more n gauge soon but I’m still going to do 00 gauge it’s just due to price I don’t buy as much.
@@Steves00gauge we just setup the Santa Express OO gauge. Seems a lot of money for what you get in the box but my 5 year old was loving life. Great hobby but your quite right when you say far to expensive these days.
@@Ben_Horne that’s my worry about the prices, it’s so out of reach of kids who want a little layout. The cost of living is crazy and so many parents can’t afford it. I secretly love that set🎅🏻 had mine since 2018 so not too long, I think I reviewed it here.
I’m currently looking at doing a deal with a shop to give a little set away so let’s hope that can happen
Currently on Amazon :
Red Rover Set plus packs B, C and D for a reasonable £200
The DCC chip used was £17.00 last year, this year £25.00. Kids are being priced out the market.
The pre-owned secondhand route is more viable and some of it is as good as new. Just hold off until a sale.
They want £24:50 for the tackmat crazy
in all reality i'll guarantee buy in price was under 2 quid
The price for model railways like all things made in China are now ridiculous, like so many other things made abroad. Apart from fluctuations in exchange rates and an unstable world outsourcing supply started as a way for UK manufacturers to make more profit for sure. I didn't see lower manufacturing costs passed on to the consumer. Stuff I bought 15 years ago has tripled in price but my income hasn't. Rip off Britain at it's best. Get to swap meets and buy used stock. Make things like buildings and scenery at home. Save a fortune and enjoy watching your model making skills improve over time. Great vid, glad I found your channel.
Hey Ken welcome to the channel. The prices are crazy on so many items. I made a video on the humble train set and it’s price rises and i still stand by that video and my points I made in that and 98% agree but one person went crazy on me for it 😅
I try to keep the humour so the video isn’t just a rant 😊
@@Steves00gauge Thanks
Insane prices will kill this hobby
A friend of mine just started so I have given him some parts to use like a controller and 3rd radius curves as I don’t want to see him lose a fortune just to start 😢
Not just that, today's parents and schools stuffing technology down our kids throats hasn't helped in my view.
@@kenstevens5065cost of living too.
Sad about the costs. It will drive people away from hobby, especially newbies...
Ebay helps.
I know it's 2022 but I bet it's dearer than that now
I should do an update on this but we all know the out come 😅
The obvious answer is never buy direct from Hornby. Buy from the likes of Hattons or Rails of Sheffield, where you will pay less. Or Buy second hand from your local retailer. Much much cheaper.
What do you think of the new TT Range? Im very interested
Hey Andrew, I made a video on it. It’s my latest video with my thoughts and a little bit of humour
motto of the story, ignore the track mat; get a single new(ish) item every month (or even evry quater); walk before you can run.......
Model railways are definitely not a cheap hobby anymore and hornby charge extortionate prices
Bachmann track is cheaper, if you can find a stockist!
Peco is pretty good also.
@@Steves00gauge The Peco set track range does not include an Express Point equivalent to Hornby, but Bachmann do an Express Point that is cheaper than the Hornby equivalent.
That's about $ 732 Australian.
Bloody ridiculous and that is my problem. A cheap table tennis table to put it on will add another $ 150. So I guess for $ 1000 I don't get much.
😢 what brands are more realistic for you or are they all high in price.
@Steves00gauge The most common seem to be Bachmann and Hornby.
I still have an old Lima set..
All the dealers have a lot of nil stock which limits choice. Even with rail . A dealer yesterday said " I think I have one " Peco ST -100.. Second hand, there is Hornby's first Harry potter for $ 320 and a latest Harry potter for $450 , he originally wanted $500 with couple of small buildings. That set new when they get it $ 388. An old Triang rs 48 I think is a couple of hundred with couple of bits missing. There is also a Bumblebee HO bits missing with dead control $ 60.
Luckily on news last night imports are starting to pick up.
Have look at this Indian Pacific. This is done because train is too long for station. th-cam.com/video/z3O3As8RbdM/w-d-xo.html
God bless ebay.Overprice plastic
3:16 this is why there are no kids in the hobby anymore
Everything is adult marketed
Don't forget the building packs that go with the matt. I've added them together to £239.99!
But let's not just stop there. Nah!! Let's recreate that extremely outdated final promotional image.
Let's pretend your HST set is the Eurostar, so we'll add a steam train pack, a shunter pack, a diesel loco and a steam loco to that; I've gone with the Tornado and three coach pack £241.99, the Diesel [shunter] Freight Train pack £82.49, Railroad Scotrail Class 47 £120.99 and the Stanier Black 5 £249.99, and of course a second controller ... which makes no sense whatsoever ... £19.49.
Bringing our grand total to a whopping £1,334.50 for what you see in the promotional image for the completed track matt - aka, a train set. That's not including all the isolating switches you'd need to actually get those trains to run properly on conventional 12v DC. You'd have to do a load of complicated wiring to stop the trains crashing in to each other!
I wondered how much all of that would cost my parents if little 7 year old me asked for that for Christmas in 1995; £678.54. It's almost doubled!
Problem is 7 year old's these days don't want a train set, they want a PS5, which costs half as much as the train set! So who exactly are Hornby expecting to buy these train sets?
Thank you for finishing my homework 😂
I lost the will you live making that video but you are absolutely right.
It gets worse the further you get into the abyss.
And yep ps5 or newest phone but hey they seem cheap in comparison 😂
Hell a ps5 and a new iPhone is cheaper combined then they can play games for hours and spend £60 on a game pass instead of a level crossing.
@@Steves00gauge It's just a big rabbit hole! I only wanted to add the buildings and as soon as I saw the price, plus your own shopping list, I just had to know! Those buildings are 30+ year old mouldings, too!
Well I put that £678 from 1995 in to the inflation calculator £1,325 so about the same price
i wouldn't mind the prices so much if they supported british jobs .. but they sold out to china and india to make them cheaper , said it before and i'll say it again . i don't mind paying throw away prices for throw away goods but hornby are asking luxury top end prices for throw away chinese shit .. so i stopped buying hornby products years ago , i watch reviewers on you tube and i think they must be mentally ill keep buying shit at over inflated prices reporting many faults then going to buy another
I haven’t bought a single Hornby item in a few months now, I had the i6000 trainset due to the good price but other than that I it’s about a year come to think of it but I could be wrong.
The prices just put me off so I don’t bother, not to say I won’t again.
Last purchase was Bachmann and Oxford rail.
I have messed about a bit with some n gauge but haven’t had time to post any videos of that yet
@@Steves00gauge thing is there are companies blasting hornby out of the water with vastly cheaper models
Anyone with any sense should stay away from Hornby - overpriced plastic crap.
They don't care about "model railways" they just want people to squeeze as much expensive track into as tiny a space as possible (usually 6x4ft).
Their buildings are even worse - cheap gaudy clip-together plastic moulded garbage with primary school standard stickers for walls and features. The card kits from Metcalfe are a fraction of the price and infinitely more realistic.