Just returned from a week hunting in North Florida. I did the refill thing for about 15 cents each. Sams club sells a 4 pack of Butáne 8 oz for $5.28. I also tried the pad refills for less than 10 cents each. Everything worked great. I have ARS pads coming. I think for the 15 cent cost Ill avoid trying to be a chemist.
Good review its funny these survival shows like bear grylls and les Stroud almost "never" mention mosquito infestations and they are in problem places almost every week
I refill my Thermacell mats with a mixture of permethrin10 diluted in a 1:3 ratio of distilled water and they work great you can buy a 8-12oz bottle of permethrin10 at your local agri feed store for $8-12 and it lasts Ive been using the same bottle of permethrin10 for two almost three years now. I just take a small mason jar and put the mixture of 2x distilled water and 1x permethrin10 put lid on shake and let the bubbles go away then take some old tongs and dip used mats/pads into the liquid until they are damp them put them on a layer of paper towels for about 5 min them store them in a snack size zip lock storage bag. they work great and last on the shelf for over 6 months. The only thing you don't get is the blue color but they work great if not better than the origianals
I have tried the 10 percent permethrin without a lot of success. I fog mosquitoes in my backyard with a propane fogger that uses permethrin and they are attacking me while i'm out there fogging. They eventually die but permethrin is not the quick knockdown/repellent as pyrethrin, which is the active ingredient (though synthetic) in the thermacell pads.
You ever try regular bug spray on the pads? Get the used pad soaking wet and then stick it in the thermacell appliance. I did it with cutter bug spray and it seemed to work.
I'm sorry lower in my post i said 2x water 1 x permethrin10 it is actually diluted in a 1:3 ratio although Im sure 1:2 probably wouldnt kill you but it would surely smell a lot worse like the permethrin10
I have three thermocells and have never seen them smoke _at_all_. Maybe it's the ambient temperature there? I'm using mine in 80-95 degree South Florida. Thought the criteria of how much smoke they made seemed strange. :) Clearly a smaller pad has less capacity and less surface area to heat; so that's not going to stack up to the larger Thermocell pads. But did they actually work?
I have never seen any of my thermacells smoke either. I wonder if removing the check valve to make the butane cartridges refillable make them run hotter. I have not yet run mine on refilled cartridges
Here is some info I found. Active ingredients: Prallethrin 0.99% Dimensions: 2 x 4cm / 1 x 2" Contents: 20 refill tablets Repellency time: 1 tablet provides up to 10 hours of protection Weight: 25g / 1oz (pack of 20) I personally will not buy the ebay ones again!
It appears you use two of the AR-12 mats in the vertical position at the same time to put out as much, or more, smoke that the original Thermocell mats. Have you tried that?
@@RiverRatCatfishing thanks on ebay from China? Or ebay in the us? I've seen them alot on ebay from Australia, but we are in Florida, might just try dunking them in perethium however u spell it lol
In Canada I'm paying $13 for 12 mats. Why so much more expensive in the US for an American product? Given the currency exchange, you should be paying $0.60 ea. not $1.50!
Thanks for sharing. Really lousy when a company sells their products at way too much money. That's capitalism. Rip off society. Some things are still a good deal but alot of items just twice as much or more than what they really should be or are worth. We are lucky for those people who make a similar product and sell it for more reasonable prices.
Just returned from a week hunting in North Florida. I did the refill thing for about 15 cents each. Sams club sells a 4 pack of Butáne 8 oz for $5.28. I also tried the pad refills for less than 10 cents each. Everything worked great. I have ARS pads coming. I think for the 15 cent cost Ill avoid trying to be a chemist.
Ars Mat 12 are this days very difficult to get in the UK or elsewhere ebay, amazon, is ther a alternative for them?
Good review its funny these survival shows like bear grylls and les Stroud almost "never" mention mosquito infestations and they are in problem places almost every week
Thanks for this comparison.
I refill my Thermacell mats with a mixture of permethrin10 diluted in a 1:3 ratio of distilled water and they work great you can buy a 8-12oz bottle of permethrin10 at your local agri feed store for $8-12 and it lasts Ive been using the same bottle of permethrin10 for two almost three years now.
I just take a small mason jar and put the mixture of 2x distilled water and 1x permethrin10 put lid on shake and let the bubbles go away then take some old tongs and dip used mats/pads into the liquid until they are damp them put them on a layer of paper towels for about 5 min them store them in a snack size zip lock storage bag. they work great and last on the shelf for over 6 months. The only thing you don't get is the blue color but they work great if not better than the origianals
I have tried the 10 percent permethrin without a lot of success. I fog mosquitoes in my backyard with a propane fogger that uses permethrin and they are attacking me while i'm out there fogging. They eventually die but permethrin is not the quick knockdown/repellent as pyrethrin, which is the active ingredient (though synthetic) in the thermacell pads.
So is it safe to say that getting Pyrethrin concentrate is the way to go? 1:3?
You ever try regular bug spray on the pads? Get the used pad soaking wet and then stick it in the thermacell appliance. I did it with cutter bug spray and it seemed to work.
I'm sorry lower in my post i said 2x water 1 x permethrin10 it is actually diluted in a 1:3 ratio although Im sure 1:2 probably wouldnt kill you but it would surely smell a lot worse like the permethrin10
Where are you getting the 8 hour ones lol?
I have three thermocells and have never seen them smoke _at_all_. Maybe it's the ambient temperature there? I'm using mine in 80-95 degree South Florida. Thought the criteria of how much smoke they made seemed strange. :) Clearly a smaller pad has less capacity and less surface area to heat; so that's not going to stack up to the larger Thermocell pads. But did they actually work?
I have never seen any of my thermacells smoke either. I wonder if removing the check valve to make the butane cartridges refillable make them run hotter. I have not yet run mine on refilled cartridges
How does lasting 8 hrs depend on how much you use it? 8hrs is 8 hrs . Fyi they last maybe 4 hrs!
lol
The ARS mat12's are 5% d-trans allethrin. Do the eBay ones say how many % they are and what they weigh?
Here is some info I found.
Active ingredients: Prallethrin 0.99%
Dimensions: 2 x 4cm / 1 x 2"
Contents: 20 refill tablets
Repellency time: 1 tablet provides up to 10 hours of protection
Weight: 25g / 1oz (pack of 20)
I personally will not buy the ebay ones again!
It appears you use two of the AR-12 mats in the vertical position at the same time to put out as much, or more, smoke that the original Thermocell mats. Have you tried that?
I have tried that, and in my opinion it isn't needed as on mat works well.
Does anyone know the exact temp required to activate the mat's?
180f - 220f. measured with lazer thermometer on the thermacell's heating plate at 20min runtime
what temp does the heating element burn at? (working on project)
190f-220f measured with lazer thermometer.
I incert 2 china pad for the same size than the original
How about putting a link in a pinned comment? I'm having trouble finding these.
www.ebay.com/itm/ARS-MAT-12-Effective-MOSQUITO-REPELLENT-Refill-60-pcs-FAST-US-/124776573129?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Any refills available.in the usa I cant find any on ebay
Probably not. I could only find them on ebay
@@RiverRatCatfishing thanks on ebay from China? Or ebay in the us? I've seen them alot on ebay from Australia, but we are in Florida, might just try dunking them in perethium however u spell it lol
ARS 12 is no longer available on eBay.
want another lifehack, use your mats in a zippo hand warmer... or one of those usb diffuser.
Tailslol or even a tea candle with the mat on a tinfoil
My thermacwell pack says lasts 4 hours
Yes new ones only last about 4 hours. Old ones gave you 8 hrs
@@RiverRatCatfishing
Lame! Any way I can make my own bug repellent and put it on the pads?
You could soak pads in permethrin 10% and try it
Thanks buddy! Keep up the good work I'll sub since you're so nice and responded. Make more videos!
In Canada I'm paying $13 for 12 mats. Why so much more expensive in the US for an American product? Given the currency exchange, you should be paying $0.60 ea. not $1.50!
Where do you buy them? Canadian tire sells them for $15 for 6 mats.
@@tonydigregorio3806 Princess Auto.
Thanks for sharing. Really lousy when a company sells their products at way too much money. That's capitalism. Rip off society. Some things are still a good deal but alot of items just twice as much or more than what they really should be or are worth.
We are lucky for those people who make a similar product and sell it for more reasonable prices.
Actually capitalism is another company making the same thing to compete against it for a profit and possibly cheaper.
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