Delete social media apps from phone, and instead take walks in public to observe what people are actually wearing IRL. Been trying this out lately and it feels so much more gratifying and inspirational. No one is shouting their "faLL eSseNtiaLS" retention-edited TED talk at you lmao, it's just pure fashion/style. A choose-your-own-adventure feeling. Hits different.
Real!!! I highly agree with this! I watched a video where this TH-cam ( I forgot his name, but it’s Jesse something I think? Not sure but I love his videos!) he did a video asking people in Japan what they were wearing and what their advice for people was whom were trying to find their personal style plus their inspiration. And honestly? Their advice felt so genuine and it was actually helpful. One guy in the vid of said something along the lines of “I take inspiration from the city signs and the color combinations used, for example like McDonald’s.” And I thought that was so genius.
@@Ant1quedoll love that and totally agreed 👏🏼 movies/shows, music, nature, found objects, architecture, street art, funny trash haha - there's inspo everywhere if we take the time and energy to explore & experiment outside of fashiontok doomscrolling lol
I mean, just like you say, I don't think social media has ruined fashion, but I often consider what it did for personal style. The general public seem to be so much more concerned with it these days, leading them to that feeling of being widely unsatisfied with what they consider to be fashion at large (as you said). People used to look to designers to dress them in what was fashionable, but now because we are so over exposed, the designers come across late to trends. As a result, now we seem to have this idea that we are supposed to have our own 100% totally unique style that transcends what we see from designers, or in shops, or on the catwalk. Its a little exhausting even for people whose job it is to be in it. I think both Alex's words; that you can tell how much screen time a person has by their outfit and Rian's words; that you will never be able to achieve what you want in style without spending time away from purchasing are so true. We are so inundated with ideas, even ideas that are exhaustingly and inconsequently repeated (like trompe l'oeil), that individualism is both expected and impossible, lost even. I wonder if or when this will all implode, because the idea of 'fashion = consumption' cannot continue at this pace forever. We are exhausted and really, theres no need for us to be. If fashion is considered art, why can't we appreciate it like that?
I am starting to see a tiny surge in the idea of closet purging or the idea of finding a uniform (which I am starting to lean towards). I think this is the exact response to what you're saying about the pace of current state of fashion is unbearable.
Basically social medium creates this idea that you are what you have isnt enough. And with our tendency to consume, we see something someone else is wearing, regardless of what that item is and you feel like you want to participate too. Everyones chasing thay high whether it's to fit in or to stand out in some way or to feel satisfaction. Social media (on a competively level) is about getting attention, standing out and currating a persona. So of course some people are making content that appeals to a wide audience for the lowest common denominator. But that's not necessarily new, what it it's ultimately doing is making you hyper aware of new trends, and making you dissassociate with reality. It's making you make privy to the changes in the land scape and makes you want to keep up/not get left behind, even more so if you are prone to consuming, an influencer, highly influenced, or insecure. And the disconnect from reality is placed sqaurely in the idea that while clothes make the man per se, and visuals do matter fashion regardless if it's bought second hand is still a form of consumption. You don't need as many clothes as you think and the average guy who only buys clothes because he needs clothes for specific occasions/longevity and not that + aesthetics is often times the "better" consumer. They buy when it's necessary most tiems regardless of the source and only on occasion buy or are gifted statement pieces. Not to mentio that trends irl are move slower to fade than online. Unless you are super intentional or always going places or have the ability you can give all your clothes equal love. Weather permitting. So having less and taking care of them makes more sense. And if your looking for that point where you think your closet is "complete" or you have something for everything often tiems there's soemthing you to try or part of your closet you want to optimize that results in the same cycles. This is even worse when you dont know how to shop, where to look, or lose patience. And im currently at that stage where im looking at my closet that is mostly second hand thinking, "why did i get this? I should have waited till i found something better. These shoes hurt i should have waited till I found better ones. I should i gotten those pants instead of these pants etc. And while i intent to optimize my closet a bit, it's a lesson in both not making myself feel rushed and being more intentional and content with the things I have and gaps i have in my wardrobe. Because social media not only scews our perception of what we find appealing but of what is necessary or pressing at the moment.
Ryan! How can we build a discourse!? To just discuss the state of the world and how it impacts fashion (and vice versa)😅 ... Just a bit desperate in building a community and whatnot 😅
I like the topics you're discussing so keep making these! That said, this video kind of goes all over the place, which is fine if you are taking more of a journalistic approach and just want to report on a bunch of semi-related ideas (e.g. desire to find uniqueness, fashion trend setters as performative social media, the rise of "core" trends, how social media algos incentivize creators to be more "agreeable" than "correct," etc.). However, the way you presented your topics felt to me as if you were trying to prove a point. In that case, the video would be a lot more effective if you focused on one central thesis that you make clear from the start and strengthen the transitions you make into the rest of the ideas you introduce, which, in theory, all tie back to the thesis. Now that that's out of the way, here's my two cents on fashion/orginality: Fashion from a fashion hobbyist's (i.e., consumer, fashion-follower, etc.) perspective has never been about being original. In the past, consumers followed what was "fashionable" according to what was dictated by fashion houses and the runways, whereas now, the sheer speed and widespread nature of information transmission enabled by social media algorithms and their "For You"-type feeds simply bring what's currently fashionable directly to fashion hobbyists, cutting out the middleman. The difficulty in attaining the knowledge surrounding the fashion communities is no longer, thus lowering the barriers to entry in what was once a community that was built on an IFYKYK attitude. The ease of access to information and cheap clothing has made it a lot easier to be identified as a "fashion-follower" and is causing the perceived status of being "fashionable" to decline. I can go on and on, but in short, fashion is not for original people but rather those who wish to be a part of the "fashion community," which requires certain outward presentation and behavior in order to be identified as a member of said community. If you want to be original, you need to reflect on your life, values, and environment to develop an authentic style that is true to yourself. Some of your values may or may not align with what is currently fashionable, but either way, originality, and similarly style (or what you call "uniform") comes from within, not some online slop fed to you by the algorithm.
@ People always tend to emphasize on the negative effect social media had on our personal styles but i like that you also pointed out the positive effect it had. I had honestly completely forgot about that, probably also cause of most of the more serious fashion influencers just making negative content towards fashion and its community. It'd be so much better if there was more unbiased content like this
Delete social media apps from phone, and instead take walks in public to observe what people are actually wearing IRL. Been trying this out lately and it feels so much more gratifying and inspirational. No one is shouting their "faLL eSseNtiaLS" retention-edited TED talk at you lmao, it's just pure fashion/style. A choose-your-own-adventure feeling. Hits different.
Real!!! I highly agree with this! I watched a video where this TH-cam ( I forgot his name, but it’s Jesse something I think? Not sure but I love his videos!) he did a video asking people in Japan what they were wearing and what their advice for people was whom were trying to find their personal style plus their inspiration. And honestly? Their advice felt so genuine and it was actually helpful. One guy in the vid of said something along the lines of “I take inspiration from the city signs and the color combinations used, for example like McDonald’s.” And I thought that was so genius.
@@Ant1quedoll love that and totally agreed 👏🏼 movies/shows, music, nature, found objects, architecture, street art, funny trash haha - there's inspo everywhere if we take the time and energy to explore & experiment outside of fashiontok doomscrolling lol
I mean, just like you say, I don't think social media has ruined fashion, but I often consider what it did for personal style. The general public seem to be so much more concerned with it these days, leading them to that feeling of being widely unsatisfied with what they consider to be fashion at large (as you said). People used to look to designers to dress them in what was fashionable, but now because we are so over exposed, the designers come across late to trends. As a result, now we seem to have this idea that we are supposed to have our own 100% totally unique style that transcends what we see from designers, or in shops, or on the catwalk. Its a little exhausting even for people whose job it is to be in it. I think both Alex's words; that you can tell how much screen time a person has by their outfit and Rian's words; that you will never be able to achieve what you want in style without spending time away from purchasing are so true. We are so inundated with ideas, even ideas that are exhaustingly and inconsequently repeated (like trompe l'oeil), that individualism is both expected and impossible, lost even.
I wonder if or when this will all implode, because the idea of 'fashion = consumption' cannot continue at this pace forever. We are exhausted and really, theres no need for us to be. If fashion is considered art, why can't we appreciate it like that?
I am starting to see a tiny surge in the idea of closet purging or the idea of finding a uniform (which I am starting to lean towards). I think this is the exact response to what you're saying about the pace of current state of fashion is unbearable.
Basically social medium creates this idea that you are what you have isnt enough. And with our tendency to consume, we see something someone else is wearing, regardless of what that item is and you feel like you want to participate too. Everyones chasing thay high whether it's to fit in or to stand out in some way or to feel satisfaction. Social media (on a competively level) is about getting attention, standing out and currating a persona. So of course some people are making content that appeals to a wide audience for the lowest common denominator. But that's not necessarily new, what it it's ultimately doing is making you hyper aware of new trends, and making you dissassociate with reality. It's making you make privy to the changes in the land scape and makes you want to keep up/not get left behind, even more so if you are prone to consuming, an influencer, highly influenced, or insecure. And the disconnect from reality is placed sqaurely in the idea that while clothes make the man per se, and visuals do matter fashion regardless if it's bought second hand is still a form of consumption. You don't need as many clothes as you think and the average guy who only buys clothes because he needs clothes for specific occasions/longevity and not that + aesthetics is often times the "better" consumer. They buy when it's necessary most tiems regardless of the source and only on occasion buy or are gifted statement pieces. Not to mentio that trends irl are move slower to fade than online. Unless you are super intentional or always going places or have the ability you can give all your clothes equal love. Weather permitting. So having less and taking care of them makes more sense. And if your looking for that point where you think your closet is "complete" or you have something for everything often tiems there's soemthing you to try or part of your closet you want to optimize that results in the same cycles. This is even worse when you dont know how to shop, where to look, or lose patience. And im currently at that stage where im looking at my closet that is mostly second hand thinking, "why did i get this? I should have waited till i found something better. These shoes hurt i should have waited till I found better ones. I should i gotten those pants instead of these pants etc. And while i intent to optimize my closet a bit, it's a lesson in both not making myself feel rushed and being more intentional and content with the things I have and gaps i have in my wardrobe. Because social media not only scews our perception of what we find appealing but of what is necessary or pressing at the moment.
Amazing video and I also really like how the video is edited, it really helps shows the point getting across and it being understandable
Thanks!!
5:08 holy shit truer facts have never been spoken
I actually crafted a whole video just so I can rant about the comment section
Ryan! How can we build a discourse!? To just discuss the state of the world and how it impacts fashion (and vice versa)😅 ... Just a bit desperate in building a community and whatnot 😅
Yup. Great talk.
I like the topics you're discussing so keep making these!
That said, this video kind of goes all over the place, which is fine if you are taking more of a journalistic approach and just want to report on a bunch of semi-related ideas (e.g. desire to find uniqueness, fashion trend setters as performative social media, the rise of "core" trends, how social media algos incentivize creators to be more "agreeable" than "correct," etc.).
However, the way you presented your topics felt to me as if you were trying to prove a point. In that case, the video would be a lot more effective if you focused on one central thesis that you make clear from the start and strengthen the transitions you make into the rest of the ideas you introduce, which, in theory, all tie back to the thesis.
Now that that's out of the way, here's my two cents on fashion/orginality:
Fashion from a fashion hobbyist's (i.e., consumer, fashion-follower, etc.) perspective has never been about being original. In the past, consumers followed what was "fashionable" according to what was dictated by fashion houses and the runways, whereas now, the sheer speed and widespread nature of information transmission enabled by social media algorithms and their "For You"-type feeds simply bring what's currently fashionable directly to fashion hobbyists, cutting out the middleman. The difficulty in attaining the knowledge surrounding the fashion communities is no longer, thus lowering the barriers to entry in what was once a community that was built on an IFYKYK attitude. The ease of access to information and cheap clothing has made it a lot easier to be identified as a "fashion-follower" and is causing the perceived status of being "fashionable" to decline.
I can go on and on, but in short, fashion is not for original people but rather those who wish to be a part of the "fashion community," which requires certain outward presentation and behavior in order to be identified as a member of said community.
If you want to be original, you need to reflect on your life, values, and environment to develop an authentic style that is true to yourself. Some of your values may or may not align with what is currently fashionable, but either way, originality, and similarly style (or what you call "uniform") comes from within, not some online slop fed to you by the algorithm.
Now I don’t wanna reply anything that might signify that I’m being ‘agreeable’ but great video, on that we can all agree.. no? D’oh I did it again 😅
yo man appreciate the video
and I appreciate your comment
great video
thanks!
@ People always tend to emphasize on the negative effect social media had on our personal styles but i like that you also pointed out the positive effect it had. I had honestly completely forgot about that, probably also cause of most of the more serious fashion influencers just making negative content towards fashion and its community. It'd be so much better if there was more unbiased content like this
can i see more photos of u in Helmut lang denim jacket ?
i shall show on my ig
@@ryanyipfashion please do wanna see how u style it